The only thing I disagree with is bringing back old villains. The Master definitely needs a break, Daleks need a break unless he has a great idea for them, but I feel like Cybermen really deserve to be the main antagonist for once. I swear most of the stories with cybermen in the revival have them be secondary to something else (In Doomsday they're overshadowed by the Daleks, in Death in Heaven, The Doctor Falls and The Timeless Children they're overshadowed by the Master) or extremely underwhelming (Closing Time and to a lesser extent The Next Doctor).
A couple minor changes to the status quo, maybe a historical companion, less mystery box story arcs, serialised story telling. Also, I know this won't happen, but would cool if he made a no present day Earth story rule, in order to push writers to think outside the box more.
The casting is the single most important thing RTD needs to get _perfect,_ because no matter how well it's written (and we know RTD can friggin' write!), if the actor playing The Doctor cannot convince me that I'm watching a One-Thousand-Year-Old Time Lord, then the whole thing fails.
As regards to the casting of the 14th doctor - if the past has told us anything its that the press speculation means little and the new incumbent of the lead role will come as a surprise This gives me hope and concern in equal measure To quote the brigadeer in Planet Of The Spiders "well here we go again !!"
As a frequent viewer of your channel, I have had many different opinions from yours over time, but regarding this video I don't think I've ever agreed with a DW youtuber more, love the channel man, I hope Doctor Who returns to its original standard
Went off the show circa 1986 and just dip and and out but I love your last 2 min rant here. Spot on pal. No old monsters; serve the story and do what ever you like - the Robert Holmes formula.
Spot-on and very refreshing. One thing we can all agree on is that the writing and characters will be infinitely bettie than what we've sat through for the past 4 years or so.
I hope he brings back the macra and does it better than he did in gridlock I also hope he brings back villains like the celestial toymaker, sil and the monsters from the carnival of monsters (can’t remember the name)
Agree with a lot of what you said Wingy. Things I'd personally add; The next Doctor is NOT David Tennant or anyone else who played him before. They leave the Doctor free of romance! Finally, if they do bring back old enemies bring back those who never got a second chance like the Rutans. I think they have to have a Dalek episode contractually but I may be wrong. Keep up the great work! Love your vids!
I don't mind having classic villains showing up but at this point, if they do show up, they should only have one story. And the classic villains should be spread out like one season, there is one Dalek story. The next season, one Cyberman story, and the next, The Master, or Weeping Angels. I do have faith in Davies to come up with some really interesting villains.
I read on the Internet that a repeat of the antiques road show got more viewers than the last episode of doctor who. The show is truly on its last legs
If the quality of the writing and acting is good, if we get good stories, compelling characters, and interesting monsters, then the rest will take care of itself.
I totally agree with the whole "they're basically just reading off a script" (Its like panto Doctor Who). And I've enjoyed some episodes of the Chibnall era but it feels like a spin-off of Doctor Who. I feel like I haven't seen the Doctor on screen since Capaldi regenerated. Nothing against Jodie (and its not because she's a woman) but she doesn't command the screen for me.
To add to original monsters, I’d say it’s not that they keep recurring villains it’s just that all the new monsters are really forgettable and similar to other monsters
1) A charismatic and engaging Dr. 2) A relatable and likeable companion. 3) Well written, exciting and compelling stories. Get these 3 things right and questions of gender, ethnicity and wokeness (for want of a better word) will fade and only be discussed on the fringes of the fanbase. Admittedly that's all far easier said than done, but if anyone can do it, it's RTD. I wish him every success.
Scripts that sing ( I'm sure they will), companions you care about ( I can only think of Bill in the last decade). The Fugitive Doctor console will do! Every episode has to be WOW, no fillers , like the best Disney shows. Be as diverse and bonkers as the show was in 65/66
Firstly to be as consistent as his previous era, introduce new and fresh villains that are a threat to the Doctor, make the Daleks, Cybermen and the Master a threat again, make new relatable characters like Rose, Martha, Donna and Wilf.
All I can say is I recall people complaining about the lack of returning monsters after Jodi's first season, now that two seasons more have passed and the pendulum has swung the other way. I'm hoping for a nice middle ground personally.
I heard another RUclipsr suggest Romesh Ranganathan as the next Doctor. Up to that point he had never occurred to me but as soon as I heard it I thought “actually, yes!”. He’s a decent actor and has exactly the right energy. But you’re right: it should be whoever the fuck RTD wants.
@@WingyMedia Totally agree. If you're going to cast a comedian, at least get one who trained as an actor (like Catherine Tate, Aisling Bea or Matt Lucas) not "a comic who's done a bit of acting", like Bradley Walsh and John Bishop. I like them, but neither is anywhere near as good an actor as some people seem to think they are. They just don't have the experience or dramatic range to play the Doctor, and neither do other often-mentioned candidates like Ranganathan and Ayoade.
My fear is that RTDs last spin-off was Miracle Day. Don't want that back. However it was immediately preceded by Children of Earth and the Sarah Jane adventures. They were RTD quality which I would like to see built on
I want RTD to write episodes that are stories as opposed to standalones. This format works a whole lot better in Dr Who as opposed to 45 minute rushed stories. I'm glad you're finally giving the Jodie era a viewing Wingy. Season 11 yes I agree not the best, but not the worst either. Season 12 was a great improvement & Flux was pretty good. I do agree with your view on the companions, although to my surprise, Bradley Walsh was very good in the role. As for the tardis interior. I quite liked the Fugitive Doctors tardis. A touch of the classic era with a modern touch. That design has probably been my favourite interior of the new series since the Ecclestone/Tennant era. Good watch Wingy & I look forward to a review of your thoughts on the new doctor.
Spot on with the Console Room. Of New Who, Peter Capaldi's TARDIS interior was best. As too all the others, didn't like them. Agree completely on the toxic nature of what is going on. Yes, let's get a grip and just have a great actor with great writing. For a note on casting the next Doctor it has to be a really good actor (established or not), because the show is at risk. As with the casting of Jon Pertwee in 1969, the show needs a refresh. By 69 the heavy shooting schedule of 40 weeks had worn Patrick Troughton out and viewership was falling. But with Pertwee in front of the camera and the dynamic duo of Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks behind the camera, the show gained new life.
After 12 left I didn’t like the show, I’m a little bias because he was my favorite and I watched him weekly. I hope we have the fun spark, 13’s era to me is bland and I wasn’t a fan because of the lack of direction. Plus it felt dry.
Nice one Wingy, as usual. Let's all just reserve judgement for when RTD's second tenure finally airs. He and those he chooses to work with on the show deserve that much, at least. Hopefully, I'll last more than the four episodes I endured at the start of the Chibnall era before sacking it off. But if I don't, I don't - hey-ho!
I want at least one Angels story. The most intriguing monster, because they don't just zap everything in their way like the Daleks. I'd also like to see more of UNIT.
Developed characters that feel like normal people. Moffat tried to make his companions too important to the universe and Chibnall tried to make his ordinary people that just wound up bland. Strong down to earth characters that we as the audience root for is what the show needs. Ace, Rose, Martha etc.
Facts about the Chibnall era not having characters. They all just feel like they become whatever the script needs them to be. They have no independence
thank you, glad I wasnt the only one, I gave this era a chance I really did but it was the last straw with the last ep that aired ( legend of the sea devils) , I did a whole vid on facebook on why Im not feeling anything for the show anymore, even the Daleks arnt doing nowt for me now , especially the NSD deigns just need a break.... BRING BACK THE Paradigms please or bring back the classic ones and do something with them, or even sprucen up the Bronze design like done in the recent big finish artwork , and I love the Daleks and ace, but yeah I think im one of the many few now who is hoping for just all round good sci fi with non of the social justice stuff thrown into a show about battling robots, tin pepper pots and flying through space in a blue box and dont write any romance with the doc please, it wasn't very good in series one/ two so please I prefer the doc to not do the romance with earthlings. but yeah I agree on the everyone was not at each others throats back in the day, yes there was negativity and always will be with change but this era had no soul in it at all, just shoving alot of political stand points and shoving alot of todays troubles into the mix when all we ant is good writing, compelling stories and emotional episodes is it really too much to ask these days I really just hope for some good old doctor who... Cameron.
I think the problem with the fandom at the moment is that EVERYONE wants their opinions to be heard. But for some it's also not enough to just give their own opinion, they have to condemn anyone who disagrees with that opinion and vilify them for it. For example I gave an opinion that this era has attracted more female fans (a fair comment I think) and MrTardis ranted on a stream that because I said that I was a raging misogynist and that I was, quote, "One Ben Shapiro video away from committing a mass school shooting." It's just fucking mental.
I'm sorry, but Yaz, Graham, Ryan and Dan feel very much like real people. Rose, Donna, Amy, Jack etc., are all fictional characters in a TV show. It's only really Martha that feels like someone you'd actually meet. Of course, with the exception of Ian and Barbara, and possibly Sarah Jane, all companions of the Doctor are archetypes rather than genuine people. Personally, I found the relatablity of those during Chibnall's run to be incredibly refreshing. None of them have intrinsic skills, gymnastics or typing at 100wpm or whatever. Yes, Martha's a medical student, much like Yaz is a probationary police officer, but neither roles define the characters, which is absolutely true of everybody in the real world. The most recent era of the show is the one most rooted in reality, in terms of the companions' reactions. Also, Chibnall did a season of all new creatures in his first year and was hauled over the coals for it. RTD is more likely bring back Sil or Meglos than actually have a whole season of new monsters and villains.
I agree with the casting, hope he just casts who’s best for the role, not like Jodie who was cast just because she was friends with chibnal, who gave her the role and she even said on David tennants podcast that the role wasn’t for her, what he should do is pretty much give the fans what what they need not what they want because they’ll never be happy, I’m confident RTD can write a decent doctor, make him a unique character, not like what chibnal has been doing, absolutely terrible writing and Iv only watched about a handful of episodes and couldn’t take anymore lol
Jodie wasn't cast just because she was friends with Chibnall, and she never said "the role wasn't for her" Jodie was cast because she auditioned and wowed both Chibnall and the casting director. In fact she had to do several auditions before she got the role so she wasn't just handed it, she had to work for it and considering how beloved she has become, she was the right choice.
idc what he does, i just need it to be written well and i feel like i can trust rtd with that. i'm bored of shallow, lazy writing and i'm excited to see something more complex and well delivered
Incredibly clunky writing, too: "Doctor, the security of this entire planet is at stake. Can we rely upon you?"... "I took a trip home to Gallifrey, hiding in its little bubble universe. Not sure how to describe what I found. Pulverised. Burned. Nuked" ... "Me and your beautiful, as-yet unborn child". Just three examples of the dreadful lines Chibnall has inflicted on us - and there are many, many more. I never again want to hear anyone say that Chibnall is good at character writing, when he can't even give his characters decent dialogue.
Yes! A wingy upload. Didn't mean to sound like I was having ago when I commented on your last vidoe about your upload schedule Alex. Just saying that there are thousands of people that love watching you and hearing what you have to say. You have an audience that wants more. I sit and bringe watch ALL you DR WHO videos everyday whilst having my dinner. Keep up the good content 👌
You know what I really really *really* don’t wanna see more of in the RTD2 era? That fucking thing where you get images of worldwide TV news broadcasts to highlight whatever bad thing is happening everywhere in the whole wide world at exactly the same time. No! No! No! My worry is that it was still being trotted out as recently as “Years And Years”, but even by 2010 it was just cheesy, and had about as much impact as the return of the Daleks. Oh and also… stop this bullshit about how the entire universe and everything that ever happened and ever will is hanging by a thread and how will the Doctor prevent the total destruction of the entire universe and the history of everything and even time itself… no!!! Not everything has to be about avoiding the worst case scenario outcome in every single episode! It doesn’t need to be pitched as if it’s all gonna end in the destruction of everything if the Doctor doesn’t succeed! Coz unless the show’s actually due to end, we know that whatever worst case scenario outcome they’re alluding to just isn’t gonna happen! Make the episode more about the mystery and intrigue and high stakes drama of HOW the Doctor INEVITABLY foils the plot and avoids the nastiness, rather than centring a lot of confected melodrama around an outcome that clearly isn’t gonna happen.
@@thetalonsofwaynechiang There are so many Doctor Who stories, anyone can find one to support their argument. The Invasion came out in 1968 and literally had a scene where Jamie was accused of being anti-feminist.
On the casting who ever he wants thing is ridiculous if he casts a 12 year old you will back it or a 80 year old :( Needs to be between 25 to 60 man or woman :)
If they're extremely young I'd agree (unless it was relevant to the plot and they'd grown by the end of the episode or something like that) but I definitely think a very old doctor could work if done well
@@maxpower3698 I think it's just a vocal minority. Most people are fine with various groups that they aren't part of being represented in the TV they watch.
I hope we get the minor classic monster a season: In the first, it was the autons, but in the next, he brought a companion, in the third it was the Macra and in the last, it was the Sontarans. Celebrity Historicals and proper comedy like "I just want a mate" and then Donna twists her head and says "you just want to mate?" or that scene when they're chasing Margaret "she's climbing out the window isn't she?" I want a man(black or white) back because the female doctor failed, if he does bring a woman then it's one-episode-or-I-go because I'm not watching an entire season and feel like I have to give her another go, after all, wasn't that the same with Whittaker. Oh, and I hope they don't explode the screen with too much CGI.
Here is my take on you saying "The female Doctor failed" as far as I am concerned if a Doctor can become beloved and gain legions of fans and do so much for so many people then they are not a failure but a success, this is true of every Doctor including Jodie Whittaker. So she absolutely hasn't failed, no one has failed in the role
Hope no.1: Competence Hope no.2: Talent Nah but in all seriousness totally agree with your list, only things I'd add would be a good new dalek redesign (that sticks and isn't shunted off to the side after their first episode) and some darn good new spinoffs.
I think your last point is, alas, impossible :/ About my own expectations: - Looots of returning villains but WITHOUT The Master/Cybermen finale, how many freaking times... - The whole Timeless Child nonsense ridiculed and later forgotten - Some stories on Gallifrey - Loooong multi-parter stories, but with one, strong and cohesive plot - in other words exact opposite of series 13 (Flux)
I can't get my head around why people thing the Cybermen have been underused, they have been underutilized! We need a good cyberman 1 partner that goes into body horror to get people to take them serious again, not forget about them becuase they have been a let down for the last how ever many years!
Agreed. People say that Chibnall's good at character-driven writing, but I just don't see it, at least not in Doctor Who terms; I've never seen such a collection of 2-dimensional, poorly written characters in the show's history. In fact, the best character writing seems to have come from the other writers Chibnall hired... and even they were a bit of a mixed bag.
Good video. I just hope the show is good again. Chibs had no vision and was making it up as he went along (the magazine interview had him admit as much). RTD is a man with vision. I hope he can pull it off again and unite the fandom.
He never said that though. In fact once he landed the job he knew he wanted to do the Timeless Child and cast a woman, these were part of his initial pitch so that isn't true, though certain things were made up as they went along which is true of both RTD and Moffat too, not everything is meticulously planned.
@@friendlyotaku9525 I admit haven't read the interview myself so forgive me for any errors, was it the Fugitive Doctor that he made up on the spot, rather than the timeless child? There were definitely loads made up as Chibs went along, like Yas and the Doctor having an attraction for each other, it was originally Yas and Ryan who had hints of having a potential thing. It was just a very sloppy written era, and it is a shame because I know Chibs can write decent from his work in Torchwood. It is just a shame the era went as it did, looking forward to the change.
@@Rambling-Thomas there was loads made up in the RTD and Moffat eras too so I don't think that's a fair criticism at all. No era is meticulously planned in advance, some things just happen. Like thasmin came about because of Jodie and Mandip's natural chemistry and people could see something between their two characters which is why Chibnall decided to implement it and I think what has been done with that has been lovely so far
@@friendlyotaku9525 I don't think RTD and Moffat were perfect. I wasn't a big fan of Moffat's arcs taking 4 series to reach a vague conclusion. Were the Silence aliens originally planned to be space priests for example. Probably not. Chibs is far worse though. Every episode he wrote before he got showrunner was pretty naff too. (Torchwood stuff was pretty decent though) Remember the "Cubes taking over the world" episode which has the big build up which turned into nothing "The Doctor just goes on the ship and turns them off. The end". Flux had the same problem. Chibs is pretty good at a building up, but it is never paid off effectively.
@@Rambling-Thomas The Power of Three had its ending changed due to the actor playing the Shakri being a nightmare to work with, he was going to have a large role with a different ending but due to issues the ending had to be hastily rewritten which is why the ending we got happened.
He’s got a tough job to revive the series after a dumpster fire of the previous 3 seasons but if theirs one man I trust to fix the Shoe it’s Russel. I agree with its Russell’s choice let him cast as he nailed the 9th and 10th doctor imo
I don't know how you've been able to watch the Chris Chibnall era lmao. I tried watching series 11 and got as far as halfway through ghost monument. Then I tried watching series 12 and couldn't get past spyfall, it is unwatchable. I'm so sorry for your loss lol
The only thing I disagree with is bringing back old villains. The Master definitely needs a break, Daleks need a break unless he has a great idea for them, but I feel like Cybermen really deserve to be the main antagonist for once. I swear most of the stories with cybermen in the revival have them be secondary to something else (In Doomsday they're overshadowed by the Daleks, in Death in Heaven, The Doctor Falls and The Timeless Children they're overshadowed by the Master) or extremely underwhelming (Closing Time and to a lesser extent The Next Doctor).
And we know that RTD can write a good cyberman story because the Age of steel two parter was great
@@lambdafish291 I liked that story overall, though I thought the catchphrase "Delete!" was quite silly and didn't make much sense
@@lambdafish291 Russell T Davies didn't actually write those episodes.
Nothing against the classic villains as they are part of Dr Who as the doctor him/herself. My only gripe is they are over used, especially in nu who.
A couple minor changes to the status quo, maybe a historical companion, less mystery box story arcs, serialised story telling. Also, I know this won't happen, but would cool if he made a no present day Earth story rule, in order to push writers to think outside the box more.
The casting is the single most important thing RTD needs to get _perfect,_ because no matter how well it's written (and we know RTD can friggin' write!), if the actor playing The Doctor cannot convince me that I'm watching a One-Thousand-Year-Old Time Lord, then the whole thing fails.
Well it's now been officially announced that Ncuti Gatwa will be the fourteenth Doctor. Casting thoughts? Does this give us some idea of RTD's vision?
As regards to the casting of the 14th doctor - if the past has told us anything its that the press speculation means little and the new incumbent of the lead role will come as a surprise
This gives me hope and concern in equal measure
To quote the brigadeer in Planet Of The Spiders "well here we go again !!"
Well, maybe know who he is now
As a frequent viewer of your channel, I have had many different opinions from yours over time, but regarding this video I don't think I've ever agreed with a DW youtuber more, love the channel man, I hope Doctor Who returns to its original standard
14 has been announced Wingy! Would love to see a video with your thoughts ❤️💥
Went off the show circa 1986 and just dip and and out but I love your last 2 min rant here. Spot on pal. No old monsters; serve the story and do what ever you like - the Robert Holmes formula.
Spot-on and very refreshing. One thing we can all agree on is that the writing and characters will be infinitely bettie than what we've sat through for the past 4 years or so.
I hope he brings back the macra and does it better than he did in gridlock
I also hope he brings back villains like the celestial toymaker, sil and the monsters from the carnival of monsters (can’t remember the name)
I think they were called the Drashigs.
Dish rags!
Agree with a lot of what you said Wingy. Things I'd personally add; The next Doctor is NOT David Tennant or anyone else who played him before. They leave the Doctor free of romance! Finally, if they do bring back old enemies bring back those who never got a second chance like the Rutans. I think they have to have a Dalek episode contractually but I may be wrong. Keep up the great work! Love your vids!
The New Doctor was literally announced right after this was uploaded lol
I don't mind having classic villains showing up but at this point, if they do show up, they should only have one story. And the classic villains should be spread out like one season, there is one Dalek story. The next season, one Cyberman story, and the next, The Master, or Weeping Angels. I do have faith in Davies to come up with some really interesting villains.
I read on the Internet that a repeat of the antiques road show got more viewers than the last episode of doctor who. The show is truly on its last legs
"I haven't seen original creatures in years" ... looks over to Series 11 which had a new original alien every episode.
If the quality of the writing and acting is good, if we get good stories, compelling characters, and interesting monsters, then the rest will take care of itself.
I totally agree with the whole "they're basically just reading off a script" (Its like panto Doctor Who). And I've enjoyed some episodes of the Chibnall era but it feels like a spin-off of Doctor Who. I feel like I haven't seen the Doctor on screen since Capaldi regenerated. Nothing against Jodie (and its not because she's a woman) but she doesn't command the screen for me.
To add to original monsters, I’d say it’s not that they keep recurring villains it’s just that all the new monsters are really forgettable and similar to other monsters
1) A charismatic and engaging Dr. 2) A relatable and likeable companion. 3) Well written, exciting and compelling stories.
Get these 3 things right and questions of gender, ethnicity and wokeness (for want of a better word) will fade and only be discussed on the fringes of the fanbase. Admittedly that's all far easier said than done, but if anyone can do it, it's RTD. I wish him every success.
Please make a video about Which Spin off shows you want RTD to write Again like he did in his first run with Torchwood and the Sarah Jane adventures.
you couldn't have timed this one better
I'm hearing rumours of Jessica Hynes being cast as the next Doctor, I would actually love this to happen
:D
this aged very well
@@eelsemaj99 lol, the announcement came literally minutes after i posted this... oops XD
Scripts that sing ( I'm sure they will), companions you care about ( I can only think of Bill in the last decade). The Fugitive Doctor console will do! Every episode has to be WOW, no fillers , like the best Disney shows. Be as diverse and bonkers as the show was in 65/66
Firstly to be as consistent as his previous era, introduce new and fresh villains that are a threat to the Doctor, make the Daleks, Cybermen and the Master a threat again, make new relatable characters like Rose, Martha, Donna and Wilf.
Spot on yet again, you could literally be another me, a later regeneration perhaps…
Perhaps I was you of course...
I love wingy lol
Such golden opinions. Agreed 100% cheers for this man.
Loved the video Wingy! I agree with most of these points you made!
I want the sicorax to come back there may not be new but we have not seen them since DAvids 1st and Christmas episode.
All I can say is I recall people complaining about the lack of returning monsters after Jodi's first season, now that two seasons more have passed and the pendulum has swung the other way. I'm hoping for a nice middle ground personally.
I do agree.
I heard another RUclipsr suggest Romesh Ranganathan as the next Doctor. Up to that point he had never occurred to me but as soon as I heard it I thought “actually, yes!”. He’s a decent actor and has exactly the right energy.
But you’re right: it should be whoever the fuck RTD wants.
He'd be shite ngl
@@WingyMedia Totally agree. If you're going to cast a comedian, at least get one who trained as an actor (like Catherine Tate, Aisling Bea or Matt Lucas) not "a comic who's done a bit of acting", like Bradley Walsh and John Bishop. I like them, but neither is anywhere near as good an actor as some people seem to think they are. They just don't have the experience or dramatic range to play the Doctor, and neither do other often-mentioned candidates like Ranganathan and Ayoade.
not seen this actor in anying but i trust RTD keep the good work mate.
I want kris Marshall as the doctor
You put it so perfectly.
My fear is that RTDs last spin-off was Miracle Day. Don't want that back. However it was immediately preceded by Children of Earth and the Sarah Jane adventures. They were RTD quality which I would like to see built on
I want RTD to write episodes that are stories as opposed to standalones. This format works a whole lot better in Dr Who as opposed to 45 minute rushed stories.
I'm glad you're finally giving the Jodie era a viewing Wingy. Season 11 yes I agree not the best, but not the worst either. Season 12 was a great improvement & Flux was pretty good. I do agree with your view on the companions, although to my surprise, Bradley Walsh was very good in the role.
As for the tardis interior. I quite liked the Fugitive Doctors tardis. A touch of the classic era with a modern touch. That design has probably been my favourite interior of the new series since the Ecclestone/Tennant era.
Good watch Wingy & I look forward to a review of your thoughts on the new doctor.
Spot on with the Console Room. Of New Who, Peter Capaldi's TARDIS interior was best. As too all the others, didn't like them.
Agree completely on the toxic nature of what is going on. Yes, let's get a grip and just have a great actor with great writing. For a note on casting the next Doctor it has to be a really good actor (established or not), because the show is at risk. As with the casting of Jon Pertwee in 1969, the show needs a refresh. By 69 the heavy shooting schedule of 40 weeks had worn Patrick Troughton out and viewership was falling. But with Pertwee in front of the camera and the dynamic duo of Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks behind the camera, the show gained new life.
This video was very much one day too early.
After 12 left I didn’t like the show, I’m a little bias because he was my favorite and I watched him weekly. I hope we have the fun spark, 13’s era to me is bland and I wasn’t a fan because of the lack of direction. Plus it felt dry.
Blank slate sounds good to me. With you 100%.
I think you need to watch more Jodie. Her whole first series had only new monsters. Flux has not got that many returns
Her first series was 4 years ago since then it's old monsters galore
Nice one Wingy, as usual. Let's all just reserve judgement for when RTD's second tenure finally airs. He and those he chooses to work with on the show deserve that much, at least. Hopefully, I'll last more than the four episodes I endured at the start of the Chibnall era before sacking it off. But if I don't, I don't - hey-ho!
I want at least one Angels story. The most intriguing monster, because they don't just zap everything in their way like the Daleks. I'd also like to see more of UNIT.
1 more day until the announcement 😂
Developed characters that feel like normal people. Moffat tried to make his companions too important to the universe and Chibnall tried to make his ordinary people that just wound up bland. Strong down to earth characters that we as the audience root for is what the show needs. Ace, Rose, Martha etc.
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Series 11 had all new villains and they were all SHIT
Hopefully see more classic call backs
Facts about the Chibnall era not having characters. They all just feel like they become whatever the script needs them to be. They have no independence
thank you, glad I wasnt the only one, I gave this era a chance I really did but it was the last straw with the last ep that aired ( legend of the sea devils) , I did a whole vid on facebook on why Im not feeling anything for the show anymore, even the Daleks arnt doing nowt for me now , especially the NSD deigns just need a break.... BRING BACK THE Paradigms please or bring back the classic ones and do something with them, or even sprucen up the Bronze design like done in the recent big finish artwork ,
and I love the Daleks and ace, but yeah I think im one of the many few now who is hoping for just all round good sci fi with non of the social justice stuff thrown into a show about battling robots, tin pepper pots and flying through space in a blue box
and dont write any romance with the doc please, it wasn't very good in series one/ two so please I prefer the doc to not do the romance with earthlings. but yeah I agree on the everyone was not at each others throats back in the day, yes there was negativity and always will be with change but this era had no soul in it at all, just shoving alot of political stand points and shoving alot of todays troubles into the mix when all we ant is good writing, compelling stories and emotional episodes is it really too much to ask these days
I really just hope for some good old doctor who...
Cameron.
I wish that Jodie Whittaker as the 13th doctor was Written by RTD instead of Chibnel So that her run was more Exciting
I’d like to see new timelords 2bh and all the tardis have been good apart from 13s
Phenomenal video as always Wingy.
The rani oh god please lets have the Rani back oooooohhhhhhhhh
I think the problem with the fandom at the moment is that EVERYONE wants their opinions to be heard. But for some it's also not enough to just give their own opinion, they have to condemn anyone who disagrees with that opinion and vilify them for it.
For example I gave an opinion that this era has attracted more female fans (a fair comment I think) and MrTardis ranted on a stream that because I said that I was a raging misogynist and that I was, quote, "One Ben Shapiro video away from committing a mass school shooting."
It's just fucking mental.
MrTardis opinion on anything shouldn't hold much weight to anyone IMO
personally i just want a really good doctor who series
I'm sorry, but Yaz, Graham, Ryan and Dan feel very much like real people. Rose, Donna, Amy, Jack etc., are all fictional characters in a TV show. It's only really Martha that feels like someone you'd actually meet. Of course, with the exception of Ian and Barbara, and possibly Sarah Jane, all companions of the Doctor are archetypes rather than genuine people. Personally, I found the relatablity of those during Chibnall's run to be incredibly refreshing. None of them have intrinsic skills, gymnastics or typing at 100wpm or whatever. Yes, Martha's a medical student, much like Yaz is a probationary police officer, but neither roles define the characters, which is absolutely true of everybody in the real world. The most recent era of the show is the one most rooted in reality, in terms of the companions' reactions.
Also, Chibnall did a season of all new creatures in his first year and was hauled over the coals for it. RTD is more likely bring back Sil or Meglos than actually have a whole season of new monsters and villains.
Don't be sorry, glad you got something out of it that I really didn't
I agree with the casting, hope he just casts who’s best for the role, not like Jodie who was cast just because she was friends with chibnal, who gave her the role and she even said on David tennants podcast that the role wasn’t for her, what he should do is pretty much give the fans what what they need not what they want because they’ll never be happy, I’m confident RTD can write a decent doctor, make him a unique character, not like what chibnal has been doing, absolutely terrible writing and Iv only watched about a handful of episodes and couldn’t take anymore lol
Jodie wasn't cast just because she was friends with Chibnall, and she never said "the role wasn't for her"
Jodie was cast because she auditioned and wowed both Chibnall and the casting director. In fact she had to do several auditions before she got the role so she wasn't just handed it, she had to work for it and considering how beloved she has become, she was the right choice.
idc what he does, i just need it to be written well and i feel like i can trust rtd with that. i'm bored of shallow, lazy writing and i'm excited to see something more complex and well delivered
Incredibly clunky writing, too: "Doctor, the security of this entire planet is at stake. Can we rely upon you?"... "I took a trip home to Gallifrey, hiding in its little bubble universe. Not sure how to describe what I found. Pulverised. Burned. Nuked" ... "Me and your beautiful, as-yet unborn child". Just three examples of the dreadful lines Chibnall has inflicted on us - and there are many, many more. I never again want to hear anyone say that Chibnall is good at character writing, when he can't even give his characters decent dialogue.
Yes! A wingy upload.
Didn't mean to sound like I was having ago when I commented on your last vidoe about your upload schedule Alex.
Just saying that there are thousands of people that love watching you and hearing what you have to say. You have an audience that wants more.
I sit and bringe watch ALL you DR WHO videos everyday whilst having my dinner.
Keep up the good content 👌
I definitely didn't take it as you having a go at all!
I still care about the daleks :(
You know what I really really *really* don’t wanna see more of in the RTD2 era? That fucking thing where you get images of worldwide TV news broadcasts to highlight whatever bad thing is happening everywhere in the whole wide world at exactly the same time. No! No! No! My worry is that it was still being trotted out as recently as “Years And Years”, but even by 2010 it was just cheesy, and had about as much impact as the return of the Daleks. Oh and also… stop this bullshit about how the entire universe and everything that ever happened and ever will is hanging by a thread and how will the Doctor prevent the total destruction of the entire universe and the history of everything and even time itself… no!!! Not everything has to be about avoiding the worst case scenario outcome in every single episode! It doesn’t need to be pitched as if it’s all gonna end in the destruction of everything if the Doctor doesn’t succeed! Coz unless the show’s actually due to end, we know that whatever worst case scenario outcome they’re alluding to just isn’t gonna happen! Make the episode more about the mystery and intrigue and high stakes drama of HOW the Doctor INEVITABLY foils the plot and avoids the nastiness, rather than centring a lot of confected melodrama around an outcome that clearly isn’t gonna happen.
I need Russell too give fans a chance at being the doctor why does a prolific actor have too play the part. Star Wars gave fans a chance
The right actor for the Doctor. Leave all the politics at the door and just tell the stories. Oh, and bring back K9!
Doctor Who is and has always been political though.
@@thetalonsofwaynechiang There are so many Doctor Who stories, anyone can find one to support their argument. The Invasion came out in 1968 and literally had a scene where Jamie was accused of being anti-feminist.
@@thetalonsofwaynechiang Don't worry, I'm not defending the Chibnall era
Yh It's A Male Again I hope they fix the timeless child as the show was basically murdered in chibnal era
On the casting who ever he wants thing is ridiculous if he casts a 12 year old you will back it or a 80 year old :(
Needs to be between 25 to 60 man or woman :)
If they're extremely young I'd agree (unless it was relevant to the plot and they'd grown by the end of the episode or something like that) but I definitely think a very old doctor could work if done well
@@a_cats my top 5 are
1. paterson joseph
2. mackenzie crook
3. daniel mays
4. maxine peake
5.lee evans
Well it obviously isn't going to be a child or someone on their death bed is it, don't be silly
@@WingyMedia well well well
Can’t get any worse after chibnall
I wonder will he manage to surpass his best series which is Series 4 imo
The show is dead less than a day he's announced in already said in an interview "not enough diversity & representation" it's fucked
Why does that mean it's dead?
well if you've seen the interview more preaching at the audience people are sick of more "representation & diversity"
@@maxpower3698 I think it's just a vocal minority. Most people are fine with various groups that they aren't part of being represented in the TV they watch.
I hope we get the minor classic monster a season: In the first, it was the autons, but in the next, he brought a companion, in the third it was the Macra and in the last, it was the Sontarans. Celebrity Historicals and proper comedy like "I just want a mate" and then Donna twists her head and says "you just want to mate?" or that scene when they're chasing Margaret "she's climbing out the window isn't she?" I want a man(black or white) back because the female doctor failed, if he does bring a woman then it's one-episode-or-I-go because I'm not watching an entire season and feel like I have to give her another go, after all, wasn't that the same with Whittaker. Oh, and I hope they don't explode the screen with too much CGI.
Here is my take on you saying "The female Doctor failed" as far as I am concerned if a Doctor can become beloved and gain legions of fans and do so much for so many people then they are not a failure but a success, this is true of every Doctor including Jodie Whittaker. So she absolutely hasn't failed, no one has failed in the role
Hope no.1: Competence
Hope no.2: Talent
Nah but in all seriousness totally agree with your list, only things I'd add would be a good new dalek redesign (that sticks and isn't shunted off to the side after their first episode) and some darn good new spinoffs.
Have you seen the batman yet?
i don’t care who the doctor is as long as they don’t make them someone who was already the doctor before.
I think your last point is, alas, impossible :/ About my own expectations:
- Looots of returning villains but WITHOUT The Master/Cybermen finale, how many freaking times...
- The whole Timeless Child nonsense ridiculed and later forgotten
- Some stories on Gallifrey
- Loooong multi-parter stories, but with one, strong and cohesive plot - in other words exact opposite of series 13 (Flux)
I can't get my head around why people thing the Cybermen have been underused, they have been underutilized! We need a good cyberman 1 partner that goes into body horror to get people to take them serious again, not forget about them becuase they have been a let down for the last how ever many years!
Interesting that you have actually been watching the Chibnall era: and yeah, you are right - absolutely no proper characters whatsoever
Agreed. People say that Chibnall's good at character-driven writing, but I just don't see it, at least not in Doctor Who terms; I've never seen such a collection of 2-dimensional, poorly written characters in the show's history. In fact, the best character writing seems to have come from the other writers Chibnall hired... and even they were a bit of a mixed bag.
I've only been watching it recently for the sake of it. My god 🤮
Good video. I just hope the show is good again.
Chibs had no vision and was making it up as he went along (the magazine interview had him admit as much).
RTD is a man with vision. I hope he can pull it off again and unite the fandom.
He never said that though. In fact once he landed the job he knew he wanted to do the Timeless Child and cast a woman, these were part of his initial pitch so that isn't true, though certain things were made up as they went along which is true of both RTD and Moffat too, not everything is meticulously planned.
@@friendlyotaku9525 I admit haven't read the interview myself so forgive me for any errors, was it the Fugitive Doctor that he made up on the spot, rather than the timeless child?
There were definitely loads made up as Chibs went along, like Yas and the Doctor having an attraction for each other, it was originally Yas and Ryan who had hints of having a potential thing. It was just a very sloppy written era, and it is a shame because I know Chibs can write decent from his work in Torchwood. It is just a shame the era went as it did, looking forward to the change.
@@Rambling-Thomas there was loads made up in the RTD and Moffat eras too so I don't think that's a fair criticism at all. No era is meticulously planned in advance, some things just happen. Like thasmin came about because of Jodie and Mandip's natural chemistry and people could see something between their two characters which is why Chibnall decided to implement it and I think what has been done with that has been lovely so far
@@friendlyotaku9525 I don't think RTD and Moffat were perfect. I wasn't a big fan of Moffat's arcs taking 4 series to reach a vague conclusion. Were the Silence aliens originally planned to be space priests for example. Probably not.
Chibs is far worse though. Every episode he wrote before he got showrunner was pretty naff too. (Torchwood stuff was pretty decent though)
Remember the "Cubes taking over the world" episode which has the big build up which turned into nothing "The Doctor just goes on the ship and turns them off. The end". Flux had the same problem. Chibs is pretty good at a building up, but it is never paid off effectively.
@@Rambling-Thomas The Power of Three had its ending changed due to the actor playing the Shakri being a nightmare to work with, he was going to have a large role with a different ending but due to issues the ending had to be hastily rewritten which is why the ending we got happened.
He’s got a tough job to revive the series after a dumpster fire of the previous 3 seasons but if theirs one man I trust to fix the Shoe it’s Russel. I agree with its Russell’s choice let him cast as he nailed the 9th and 10th doctor imo
He doesn't need to revive anything, the show is still going strong. It isn't 2005.
I don't know how you've been able to watch the Chris Chibnall era lmao. I tried watching series 11 and got as far as halfway through ghost monument. Then I tried watching series 12 and couldn't get past spyfall, it is unwatchable. I'm so sorry for your loss lol