If You Are In The Way Of A Chaotic Neutral They Will Just Keep Walking. If You're In The Way Of A Neutral Evil They Will Test Out Their Knew Switchblade
@@loganbyrd2024 I would say it's the pragmatism and self interest displayed by both alignments. The largest difference, in my mind right now anyways, is the lengths and means by which they will go to serve their self interests. The other large difference, in broad strokes, is motivation. A CN character may actually do something nice because it was a nice thing to do. A NE character is more likely to do something nice because it gives them an angle, or advantage of some kind. Granted, these are just general tendencies and I like to try and weigh out if a player is roleplaying out the emotional consequences afterwards. If there's a sense of "well, that sucked. Sorry it had to go that way, but I don't wanna die either." Then that's probably CN If it's more like "did I need to cut that guys throat? Maybe not...saved a bunch of coin and worry bribing him though." That's probably NE.
@@GamersDenLoremaster Most of my "Evil" Characters are probably CN, then, even the one who supposedly worshipped a CE god of Sex, Perversion, and Taboo. His angle was he thought his god advocated for a freer, less censored society that wasn't caught up in society's outdated moores, and the CE god had special extra spell-like abilities he granted his followers (a permanent version of Polymorph any Object at a way lower level than wizards get it for instance). That said, he was willing to work with all kinds of people and thought it was better to try to make friends than enemies. "If we can't come to an agreement, let's at least stay out of each other's way". He was probably the most chill, tolerant "Chaotic Evil" you would ever meet.
@@loganbyrd2024 sounds more CN to me as well. That interpretation of the CE God is certainly an interesting one, sounds a bit like Slaanesh. And it brings up a notion of what a deities portfolio exactly covers. Attributing those aspects to the deity would still send them a line of "faith/belief" that fuels their abilities, but if enough believe in it and convert to this interpretation, how much does that begin to alter the deity? Given them more of a dual nature? Gods of war certainly do cover warfare and butchery, but also exemplify courage and excelling through martial prowess.
Very fun alignment to play in a variety of parties I enjoy playing a character who’s goals usually allign with the party’s, but will get them done by any means. If it’s a super selfless goal, you gotta get what you need out of it. War is good for business, peace is good for business.
It really is too, I've just been on the unfortunate end of things where my players play up the self serving part to the point of being Stupid Evil as opposed to creatively finding a way of subverting the situation to their own ends, while still helping the group. Except for one player. He helped a Lawful Good character clean up the streets and make a city safer for the general populace and merchants. Why? Because he was paid in a deed for a plot of land at the end of a cul de sac. And he was gonna build a casino there. Crime scares people away, fewer people mean fewer goods and merchants flowing through the roadways. So a safer city attracted more business and people, meaning more coin for his casino. And helping the LG character doing this was a lot of good PR for him and eschewing his share of gold for a plot of land no one was really using anyways made him look magnanimous.
@Gian Man In theory, they could absolutely be a pacifist. It'd be unique, but it could be a thing where violence, or blood makes them physically ill, so they let others deal with it, or just avoid it all together. But they'd be utterly ruthless. I picture basically a CEO, firing 800 people to make sure the returns on profits were what was projected, not doing anything about the rumors sending anxiety through people for months beforehand. Using insider information, extortion, bribery, everything. As far as being worked up about being called "good", that implies a pretty strong dependence, or attachment to being evil. That kind of character would be unique in that most 'evil' people rarely think of themselves as being evil; they typically have some kind of rationale to justify their actions, or simply not care about the labeling. It'd be a character that has, I think, looked upon the larger, cosmic, multiplanar order of things and seeks to commit to evil because evil is required. That may be a point in the Lawful category, but for them to be 'dedicated' to being evil for evil's sake, that structure would be required.
@Fillip mcgee That kind of a doctor sounds more like someone on the spectrum of Chaotic Neutral with a hell of a mean streak. Certainly they may have some marks of evil on them and may be on the edge of steering into something like Neutral Evil. But mean spirited pranks can be offset by their ability and willingness to heal. But I suppose it depends on the nature and frequency of the pranks too. Dr. Becker would probably be more LN than anything else. From what I remember, he was more blunt and outspoken, not necessarily rulebreaking or anything like that. Dr. House would be CN for his continuous subversion of rules at the Hospital he worked at, with a bit of CG habits for flair, given the number of scenes he has where he does something to help other people beyond the scope of just the medical practice.
@Fillip mcgee Sounds like someone had some kind of epiphany, or moment of clarity that fundamentally shifted their outlook. It could have even been something like a mental breakdown; like the weight of all their sins caused whatever made them uncaring just snap. Totally possible for something like that. Not everyone begins a Paladin, most came from some kind of life before that. And plenty of good aligned churches would see that kind of "coming to the light of redemption" as a good thing, both morally and politically. And such characters would have motivation to try and track down former compatriots still doing evil works. As far as alignments being more like horoscopes...I'd never considered such a thing really. Its an interesting concept, but one that could conceivably exist within the cosmos. Probably on a neutrally aligned plane. The beings there and those that can draw on that realms power might have a look at all of alignments as simply parts of a larger, cosmic machine, cogs and parts serving their individual purpose in keeping the multiverse going.
Disintegrate is a 6th level spell. The spell description says “a green light springs from your pointing finger”. Sounds like a blaster might as well be an ergonomic wand. Star Wars is basically a fantasy setting where magic items are easily accessible but magic users are scarce.
I'm playing a neutral evil character in a party. The game is set in 1800's London. I based him a bit off of P.T Barnum. He's only helping the party because it is a good publicity stunt for him and it earns him money. He's primarily motivated by money and making himself look good in the public eye. He's genuinely friendly with the party and since he is upper class and a member of the merchants guild he has a bit of fame for his shows. He is evil in his willingness to exploit others for his own gain but he won't be evil if there is nothing to gain from it. As a result he comes off as quite friendly he will sign autographs for his fans. He likes being the center of attention and hates being upstaged or made fun of. Plus by helping the party defeat other villains he is getting rid of the competition. He will use his money and fame to help others but only because it makes him look good. So he leans more neutral than evil.
That's actually a good point and something I've been meaning to get around to making a video or two about; which part of a characters alignment has a greater emphasis. You character certainly sounds like they fit the bill for Neutral Evil, with that Emphasis more on being neutral. Thanks for sharing that! I love it!
That's a funny thing with Lawful Good; it can end up getting self righteous and doing things because "they know better". It's an easy trap to fall into and it's one a Dm should be quick to seize upon and get a good character arc out of.
Like the creator of Nier Automata said: "You don't need to be insane to kill one thousand people you just need to believe you are right." (Bit of a paraphrase can't remember the EXACT quote.)
Another great example is the villain from Serinity. I have an aberrant mind 3/ djinn warlock the rest of the way that has a personality like that villain. My patron is of a good alignment, and I’m the guy he calls when he wants something done, and he doesn’t want to hear about how I did it.
Just got myself as Neutral Evil from quiz So... it kinda fits me,but ofcourse there some different moments which not about me I mean im something between Neutral Evil and True Neutral(More Neutral evil,but still pretty near to True Neutral)
@@Brxwn9 Understandly but it mostly doesn't really matter when most people are manipulating one another unconsciously anyway whilst not even realising how good they're being only following an inner code that they picked up from their childhood environment. Not a good thing but its not fully that bad unless you make things way bad.
Thank you very much! My character just opened the pandora box in the campaign behind the parties back and found the hand of vecna artifact. But now its says I have to turn to neutral evil alliangment. This guide really helped to see how my character should now think when making decisions.
Glad that I could be of help! Magic Items present an interesting challenge in portraying alignments; Artifacts even more so. I kind of like the slower turn you can have with less potent magic items over artifacts, but it always depends on the situation and I assume the story will be revolving around the artifact. In any case, sounds like a hell of a campaign if the Hand of Vecna has made an appearance! Best of luck to you in your adventures!
I'm playing a Neutral Good character that _was_ Neutral Evil before the campaign started. She had a catastrophic run-in with a Deck of Many Things. I'm role-playing it as though she suddenly gained a conscious and feels awful about what she did, which unfortunately doesn't come up to often in a campaign focused on combat.
Name: Æætoryn Vonaparð Race: Dragonfolk Some people give their secrets away too quickly. That old prince thought he'd go and work on his wizard powers and try to forget his legacy, eh? Whelp, I don't care 'bout that, other than the fact that that could make me a living. Say, it's only the Church fighting for the Empire, and their nobility is gone. That means I can claim my position as the new Emperor. I'll just orchestrate some grand heroic battle against the Republicans, blame the Church for everything that's going on, and state to my people that I'll fix everything. And sure, I'll fix everything. After all, I'd do anything for _my_ people. And don't worry, I'd do the same thing for the Republicans if they were in trouble. I'd be an excellent chancellor. In fact, I might be both.
Playing a Yuan Ti for the first time and the book says they are all neutral evil so my goody two shoes had to look up what that even meant.... video starts, "Neutral evil is the most evil alignment there is." Me: "GOSH DANG IT!!!"
Well, happily, there's always exceptions. Maybe your Yuan-Ti is tired of the Neutral Evil culture for practical reasons: "Fighting everyone and watching for backstabbing is exhausting and it's getting us nowhere. Maybe I need to learn how the scaleless do things, they seem to keep functioning without all this." Maybe they're not a "good" person or completely altruistic, but they're alert to potential deception and betrayals so they look to protect this odd assortment of people that are watching their backs? Like learning to trust is hard, but after a while they start eating from the communal cooking pot & supplies rather than exclusively keeping and preparing their own food and water. But it's just an idea. Good gaming guys!
It may be better said that Neutral Evil isn't beholden to any set of rules. Like Neutral Good, they see the value in rules, laws and organized structure. But they will abandon, betray and burn down these things the moment they become an impediment. So long as it serves their cause in some way, or least doesn't hinder it, they will make use of it.
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Loved this video, it gave me good insight. The way I saw it was being this brooding ahole who just hates everyone, but that's not really fun to play or play with. I have freaking 20 Charisma, why not use it to manipulate for my goals.
You've got it, though there's plenty of wiggle room. I certainly can imagine a Mob boss being a doting father, raising his kids in the family business, then having one of them knocked off if he found out they turned states evidence. Probably the key thing to most NE characters is how self serving they are. They may care for, even love others; but they will put themselves first. Maybe it'll tear their heart out in the process, but they'll be ruthless. Though the Mob boss & kid example could be a path towards a character changing alignment. Say he can't bring himself to do it; that'll cause a split in the family. His wife would understand, maybe even some of the other kids. A few Capo's might sympathize, but cut ties. Others will be outraged and start a war over the whole thing. But it'd be a way for the Mob Boss to start moving towards Chaotic Neutral from Neutral Evil. He's not gonna have much use for the cops, the law and may never see their kid again, but neither are they going to be quite as ruthless as they were before. But hey, that's the awesome thing about Table Top games like this: We get to tell the stories we want.
That call is based largely on the original movies, the clone wars series and on a couple of old, extended universe books. Ruthless, used children as bait, didn't care who the bounty was or who had placed it; just that it paid well. What we see in The Mandalorian gives him a bit more of a lawful status, but that's at least a few years after Return of the Jedi. Palpatine on the other hand is Lawful Evil to the max. He used and manipulated the law to his own benefit, never abandoning it. Sure, there were some instancing of planting evidence, political shenanigans and outright assassinations and a Civil War; but everything appeared above board and he seized ultimate control through popular vote. Lawful Evil is as much about the person being above the Law while using it. After all: The Emperor makes the law, therefore the law is subordinate before him, as is everyone else.
@@GamersDenLoremaster Funny, that's not how I remember Boba. I remember him not caring who paid him, only that he was paid, sure, I'm not saying he didn't accept jobs from the worst places (though to be fair, those were the only places he could get them. He accepts a job from the Rebellion, assuming they can match his rate, and he's out of a job) but he DID have a code given to him by his father, only going too far if the Job commanded it. He never tortured unless he was being paid to get information. He even seemed to prefer less painful ways of killing his targets. The reason for this being his father, Jango Fett, always gave "all of himself" when it came to the job he took, no matter what it was, and taught Boba to do the same. I'd argue it's that code that made Boba go the extra mile for Din on Tython. He offered his services to Din in exchange for the return of his armor. Payment was made (he received his armor back), and with such a code, and the Child still in danger, his job wasn't done. I'd argue he was more Lawful Evil in the OT and one of the Neutral alignments post ROTJ than just Neutral Evil. As far as Palpatine goes, I put him as Neutral Evil because he felt the laws or any kind of code were beneath him. The "lawful" alignment, after all, is more than just following laws, it's also about having a set code of rules, and considering how many times Palpatine bent the rules, even going so far as bending the Rule of 2 to serve his own needs rather than the needs of the Sith (having more than 2 "Sith" at a time without having more than 2 Sith at a time, training his apprentices to serve him instead of training them to surpass him, etc) I'd think Neutral Evil suits him better than Lawful Evil.
@ULTIMATZEKROM It's possible for NE to have a code: I mean look at drow: They're consistently listed as CE, but they stick pretty rigidly to worshipping Lolth and annihilating houses with no evidence left behind. By the way: SPOILERS for anyone who hasn't finished season 2 of The Mandalorian. At the end of the series we see Boba waltz into Jabba's old haunt and calmly shoot his way in and blast Bib Fortuna. Then he sits on the throne, pretty solidly signifying he's seizing control of the criminal empire. Something I'd say is pretty solidly Neutral Evil. Palpatine having the rule of two benefit him is still lawful, it's just evil to boot. And, unlike Neutral Evil, the rule of two was not abandoned once it was arguably more of a liability than a help. Rather, he kept using the Rule of Two to ensure he would have a powerful right hand. In the Fiendish Codex II: Tyrants of the Nine Hells, The Baatezu keep a rigid hierarchy and legal code that is absolutely ruthless. They keep to the letter of the law and any contracts made & signed are honored to the t; but they're notoriously stacked and worded to benefit the Devil creating the contract, who will inevitably bend and twist the words in unexpected ways that still honor said contract. Rules and laws are for the lesser creatures: The lower you are in the power structure of Hell, the less autonomy you have. Survive through cunning and strength, a devil will advance and gain greater power and 'Freedom' in hells caste system, but it also means having a more watchful eye on you from superiors who will just outright have you murdered if you become any kind of threat. Palpatine does much the same: He bends rules to benefit himself and those who display ability are afforded better position, greater autonomy and the benefits those can bring. It also means they're under greater scrutiny because they are greater threats to their superiors, the Empire and the Emperor himself.
@@GamersDenLoremaster 1. fair enough on NE 2. Yeah, he killed Bib Fortuna, but considering that it seems like he was just as big a POS as Jabba, I'd list that as a Chaotic Good act, or at least a Chaotic Neutral act. I mean, Boba was left for dead by Jabba and his gang of freaks. Still not sure how Bib survived to begin with...maybe he just wasn't on the Barge when it exploded, I'll have to rewatch ROTJ, but I digress. Granted, I'm not sure how Boba will run such an Empire, we'll have to wait for his series to see that (super excited for that show, btw, been wanting to see Boba Fett beyond the OT in canon for a while), but I can't see him being a tyrant, or worse than Palpatine or Jabba, I mean he and Fennec allowed that Twi'lek slave to leave unharmed. He's not THAT much of a POS, he's a just a man...a simple man, trying to make his way in the galaxy, like his father before him. 3. Happy to have such discussions, I love having them as well, especially when they're civil.
If You Are In The Way Of A Chaotic Neutral They Will Just Keep Walking. If You're In The Way Of A Neutral Evil They Will Test Out Their Knew Switchblade
Actually yeah, that's a pretty solid example. Depending on the day, at least XD
@@GamersDenLoremaster I find it interesting NE is compared to CN more than CE, despite being closer to CE. Why do you think that is?
@@loganbyrd2024 I would say it's the pragmatism and self interest displayed by both alignments.
The largest difference, in my mind right now anyways, is the lengths and means by which they will go to serve their self interests.
The other large difference, in broad strokes, is motivation. A CN character may actually do something nice because it was a nice thing to do. A NE character is more likely to do something nice because it gives them an angle, or advantage of some kind.
Granted, these are just general tendencies and I like to try and weigh out if a player is roleplaying out the emotional consequences afterwards.
If there's a sense of "well, that sucked. Sorry it had to go that way, but I don't wanna die either." Then that's probably CN
If it's more like "did I need to cut that guys throat? Maybe not...saved a bunch of coin and worry bribing him though."
That's probably NE.
@@GamersDenLoremaster Most of my "Evil" Characters are probably CN, then, even the one who supposedly worshipped a CE god of Sex, Perversion, and Taboo. His angle was he thought his god advocated for a freer, less censored society that wasn't caught up in society's outdated moores, and the CE god had special extra spell-like abilities he granted his followers (a permanent version of Polymorph any Object at a way lower level than wizards get it for instance). That said, he was willing to work with all kinds of people and thought it was better to try to make friends than enemies. "If we can't come to an agreement, let's at least stay out of each other's way". He was probably the most chill, tolerant "Chaotic Evil" you would ever meet.
@@loganbyrd2024 sounds more CN to me as well. That interpretation of the CE God is certainly an interesting one, sounds a bit like Slaanesh.
And it brings up a notion of what a deities portfolio exactly covers. Attributing those aspects to the deity would still send them a line of "faith/belief" that fuels their abilities, but if enough believe in it and convert to this interpretation, how much does that begin to alter the deity? Given them more of a dual nature?
Gods of war certainly do cover warfare and butchery, but also exemplify courage and excelling through martial prowess.
Very fun alignment to play in a variety of parties
I enjoy playing a character who’s goals usually allign with the party’s, but will get them done by any means. If it’s a super selfless goal, you gotta get what you need out of it.
War is good for business, peace is good for business.
It really is too, I've just been on the unfortunate end of things where my players play up the self serving part to the point of being Stupid Evil as opposed to creatively finding a way of subverting the situation to their own ends, while still helping the group.
Except for one player. He helped a Lawful Good character clean up the streets and make a city safer for the general populace and merchants.
Why?
Because he was paid in a deed for a plot of land at the end of a cul de sac. And he was gonna build a casino there. Crime scares people away, fewer people mean fewer goods and merchants flowing through the roadways.
So a safer city attracted more business and people, meaning more coin for his casino. And helping the LG character doing this was a lot of good PR for him and eschewing his share of gold for a plot of land no one was really using anyways made him look magnanimous.
@Gian Man In theory, they could absolutely be a pacifist. It'd be unique, but it could be a thing where violence, or blood makes them physically ill, so they let others deal with it, or just avoid it all together.
But they'd be utterly ruthless. I picture basically a CEO, firing 800 people to make sure the returns on profits were what was projected, not doing anything about the rumors sending anxiety through people for months beforehand. Using insider information, extortion, bribery, everything.
As far as being worked up about being called "good", that implies a pretty strong dependence, or attachment to being evil. That kind of character would be unique in that most 'evil' people rarely think of themselves as being evil; they typically have some kind of rationale to justify their actions, or simply not care about the labeling.
It'd be a character that has, I think, looked upon the larger, cosmic, multiplanar order of things and seeks to commit to evil because evil is required.
That may be a point in the Lawful category, but for them to be 'dedicated' to being evil for evil's sake, that structure would be required.
@Fillip mcgee That kind of a doctor sounds more like someone on the spectrum of Chaotic Neutral with a hell of a mean streak. Certainly they may have some marks of evil on them and may be on the edge of steering into something like Neutral Evil. But mean spirited pranks can be offset by their ability and willingness to heal.
But I suppose it depends on the nature and frequency of the pranks too.
Dr. Becker would probably be more LN than anything else. From what I remember, he was more blunt and outspoken, not necessarily rulebreaking or anything like that.
Dr. House would be CN for his continuous subversion of rules at the Hospital he worked at, with a bit of CG habits for flair, given the number of scenes he has where he does something to help other people beyond the scope of just the medical practice.
@Fillip mcgee Sounds like someone had some kind of epiphany, or moment of clarity that fundamentally shifted their outlook.
It could have even been something like a mental breakdown; like the weight of all their sins caused whatever made them uncaring just snap.
Totally possible for something like that. Not everyone begins a Paladin, most came from some kind of life before that. And plenty of good aligned churches would see that kind of "coming to the light of redemption" as a good thing, both morally and politically.
And such characters would have motivation to try and track down former compatriots still doing evil works.
As far as alignments being more like horoscopes...I'd never considered such a thing really. Its an interesting concept, but one that could conceivably exist within the cosmos.
Probably on a neutrally aligned plane. The beings there and those that can draw on that realms power might have a look at all of alignments as simply parts of a larger, cosmic machine, cogs and parts serving their individual purpose in keeping the multiverse going.
I see the Dresden Files series on your shelf and a PS2. You have my respect.
Disintegrate is a 6th level spell. The spell description says “a green light springs from your pointing finger”. Sounds like a blaster might as well be an ergonomic wand. Star Wars is basically a fantasy setting where magic items are easily accessible but magic users are scarce.
I'm playing a neutral evil character in a party. The game is set in 1800's London. I based him a bit off of P.T Barnum. He's only helping the party because it is a good publicity stunt for him and it earns him money. He's primarily motivated by money and making himself look good in the public eye. He's genuinely friendly with the party and since he is upper class and a member of the merchants guild he has a bit of fame for his shows. He is evil in his willingness to exploit others for his own gain but he won't be evil if there is nothing to gain from it. As a result he comes off as quite friendly he will sign autographs for his fans. He likes being the center of attention and hates being upstaged or made fun of. Plus by helping the party defeat other villains he is getting rid of the competition. He will use his money and fame to help others but only because it makes him look good. So he leans more neutral than evil.
That's actually a good point and something I've been meaning to get around to making a video or two about; which part of a characters alignment has a greater emphasis.
You character certainly sounds like they fit the bill for Neutral Evil, with that Emphasis more on being neutral.
Thanks for sharing that! I love it!
Neutral evil sounds allot like allot of players I know that play Palladians that are "lawful good"
That's a funny thing with Lawful Good; it can end up getting self righteous and doing things because "they know better".
It's an easy trap to fall into and it's one a Dm should be quick to seize upon and get a good character arc out of.
Like the creator of Nier Automata said: "You don't need to be insane to kill one thousand people you just need to believe you are right." (Bit of a paraphrase can't remember the EXACT quote.)
Another great example is the villain from Serinity. I have an aberrant mind 3/ djinn warlock the rest of the way that has a personality like that villain. My patron is of a good alignment, and I’m the guy he calls when he wants something done, and he doesn’t want to hear about how I did it.
Just got myself as Neutral Evil from quiz
So... it kinda fits me,but ofcourse there some different moments which not about me
I mean im something between Neutral Evil and True Neutral(More Neutral evil,but still pretty near to True Neutral)
So you can genuinely say you'd hurt others to get your own way, without remorse? Maybe even just for fun?
@@danielkubala1131 If i need to achive my mission ? Depending on situation,but yes,but actually not for fun
@@skell6134 That’s pretty trashy.
@@Brxwn9 How,lol
Im just been genuine
@@Brxwn9 Understandly but it mostly doesn't really matter when most people are manipulating one another unconsciously anyway whilst not even realising how good they're being only following an inner code that they picked up from their childhood environment. Not a good thing but its not fully that bad unless you make things way bad.
Thank you very much! My character just opened the pandora box in the campaign behind the parties back and found the hand of vecna artifact. But now its says I have to turn to neutral evil alliangment. This guide really helped to see how my character should now think when making decisions.
Glad that I could be of help! Magic Items present an interesting challenge in portraying alignments; Artifacts even more so. I kind of like the slower turn you can have with less potent magic items over artifacts, but it always depends on the situation and I assume the story will be revolving around the artifact.
In any case, sounds like a hell of a campaign if the Hand of Vecna has made an appearance! Best of luck to you in your adventures!
@@GamersDenLoremaster The ring turns people slowly.
I'm playing a Neutral Good character that _was_ Neutral Evil before the campaign started. She had a catastrophic run-in with a Deck of Many Things.
I'm role-playing it as though she suddenly gained a conscious and feels awful about what she did, which unfortunately doesn't come up to often in a campaign focused on combat.
Name: Æætoryn Vonaparð
Race: Dragonfolk
Some people give their secrets away too quickly. That old prince thought he'd go and work on his wizard powers and try to forget his legacy, eh? Whelp, I don't care 'bout that, other than the fact that that could make me a living.
Say, it's only the Church fighting for the Empire, and their nobility is gone. That means I can claim my position as the new Emperor. I'll just orchestrate some grand heroic battle against the Republicans, blame the Church for everything that's going on, and state to my people that I'll fix everything. And sure, I'll fix everything. After all, I'd do anything for _my_ people. And don't worry, I'd do the same thing for the Republicans if they were in trouble. I'd be an excellent chancellor. In fact, I might be both.
Playing a Yuan Ti for the first time and the book says they are all neutral evil so my goody two shoes had to look up what that even meant.... video starts, "Neutral evil is the most evil alignment there is." Me: "GOSH DANG IT!!!"
Well, happily, there's always exceptions. Maybe your Yuan-Ti is tired of the Neutral Evil culture for practical reasons:
"Fighting everyone and watching for backstabbing is exhausting and it's getting us nowhere. Maybe I need to learn how the scaleless do things, they seem to keep functioning without all this."
Maybe they're not a "good" person or completely altruistic, but they're alert to potential deception and betrayals so they look to protect this odd assortment of people that are watching their backs? Like learning to trust is hard, but after a while they start eating from the communal cooking pot & supplies rather than exclusively keeping and preparing their own food and water.
But it's just an idea. Good gaming guys!
Thanos? Isn't having no rules exclusive to chaotic characters? why is Tony Montana not chaotic evil then neutral evil?
It may be better said that Neutral Evil isn't beholden to any set of rules.
Like Neutral Good, they see the value in rules, laws and organized structure. But they will abandon, betray and burn down these things the moment they become an impediment.
So long as it serves their cause in some way, or least doesn't hinder it, they will make use of it.
Boba Fett?
More like
***BOBA PHAT***
Will you be releasing Chaotic Evil soon?
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Loved this video, it gave me good insight. The way I saw it was being this brooding ahole who just hates everyone, but that's not really fun to play or play with. I have freaking 20 Charisma, why not use it to manipulate for my goals.
So you o my do what's best for you or the people you care about and will do everything if I'm right
You've got it, though there's plenty of wiggle room. I certainly can imagine a Mob boss being a doting father, raising his kids in the family business, then having one of them knocked off if he found out they turned states evidence. Probably the key thing to most NE characters is how self serving they are. They may care for, even love others; but they will put themselves first.
Maybe it'll tear their heart out in the process, but they'll be ruthless.
Though the Mob boss & kid example could be a path towards a character changing alignment. Say he can't bring himself to do it; that'll cause a split in the family. His wife would understand, maybe even some of the other kids. A few Capo's might sympathize, but cut ties. Others will be outraged and start a war over the whole thing.
But it'd be a way for the Mob Boss to start moving towards Chaotic Neutral from Neutral Evil. He's not gonna have much use for the cops, the law and may never see their kid again, but neither are they going to be quite as ruthless as they were before.
But hey, that's the awesome thing about Table Top games like this: We get to tell the stories we want.
>Boba Fett is neutral evil
I dunno about that, chief. Emperor Palpatine would be a better example imo.
That call is based largely on the original movies, the clone wars series and on a couple of old, extended universe books.
Ruthless, used children as bait, didn't care who the bounty was or who had placed it; just that it paid well.
What we see in The Mandalorian gives him a bit more of a lawful status, but that's at least a few years after Return of the Jedi.
Palpatine on the other hand is Lawful Evil to the max.
He used and manipulated the law to his own benefit, never abandoning it. Sure, there were some instancing of planting evidence, political shenanigans and outright assassinations and a Civil War; but everything appeared above board and he seized ultimate control through popular vote.
Lawful Evil is as much about the person being above the Law while using it.
After all: The Emperor makes the law, therefore the law is subordinate before him, as is everyone else.
@@GamersDenLoremaster Funny, that's not how I remember Boba. I remember him not caring who paid him, only that he was paid, sure, I'm not saying he didn't accept jobs from the worst places (though to be fair, those were the only places he could get them. He accepts a job from the Rebellion, assuming they can match his rate, and he's out of a job) but he DID have a code given to him by his father, only going too far if the Job commanded it. He never tortured unless he was being paid to get information. He even seemed to prefer less painful ways of killing his targets. The reason for this being his father, Jango Fett, always gave "all of himself" when it came to the job he took, no matter what it was, and taught Boba to do the same. I'd argue it's that code that made Boba go the extra mile for Din on Tython. He offered his services to Din in exchange for the return of his armor. Payment was made (he received his armor back), and with such a code, and the Child still in danger, his job wasn't done. I'd argue he was more Lawful Evil in the OT and one of the Neutral alignments post ROTJ than just Neutral Evil.
As far as Palpatine goes, I put him as Neutral Evil because he felt the laws or any kind of code were beneath him. The "lawful" alignment, after all, is more than just following laws, it's also about having a set code of rules, and considering how many times Palpatine bent the rules, even going so far as bending the Rule of 2 to serve his own needs rather than the needs of the Sith (having more than 2 "Sith" at a time without having more than 2 Sith at a time, training his apprentices to serve him instead of training them to surpass him, etc) I'd think Neutral Evil suits him better than Lawful Evil.
@ULTIMATZEKROM It's possible for NE to have a code: I mean look at drow: They're consistently listed as CE, but they stick pretty rigidly to worshipping Lolth and annihilating houses with no evidence left behind.
By the way: SPOILERS for anyone who hasn't finished season 2 of The Mandalorian.
At the end of the series we see Boba waltz into Jabba's old haunt and calmly shoot his way in and blast Bib Fortuna. Then he sits on the throne, pretty solidly signifying he's seizing control of the criminal empire. Something I'd say is pretty solidly Neutral Evil.
Palpatine having the rule of two benefit him is still lawful, it's just evil to boot.
And, unlike Neutral Evil, the rule of two was not abandoned once it was arguably more of a liability than a help. Rather, he kept using the Rule of Two to ensure he would have a powerful right hand. In the Fiendish Codex II: Tyrants of the Nine Hells, The Baatezu keep a rigid hierarchy and legal code that is absolutely ruthless. They keep to the letter of the law and any contracts made & signed are honored to the t; but they're notoriously stacked and worded to benefit the Devil creating the contract, who will inevitably bend and twist the words in unexpected ways that still honor said contract.
Rules and laws are for the lesser creatures: The lower you are in the power structure of Hell, the less autonomy you have. Survive through cunning and strength, a devil will advance and gain greater power and 'Freedom' in hells caste system, but it also means having a more watchful eye on you from superiors who will just outright have you murdered if you become any kind of threat.
Palpatine does much the same: He bends rules to benefit himself and those who display ability are afforded better position, greater autonomy and the benefits those can bring.
It also means they're under greater scrutiny because they are greater threats to their superiors, the Empire and the Emperor himself.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Thank you for commenting by the way, I love the discussions and debating back and forth.
@@GamersDenLoremaster
1. fair enough on NE
2. Yeah, he killed Bib Fortuna, but considering that it seems like he was just as big a POS as Jabba, I'd list that as a Chaotic Good act, or at least a Chaotic Neutral act. I mean, Boba was left for dead by Jabba and his gang of freaks. Still not sure how Bib survived to begin with...maybe he just wasn't on the Barge when it exploded, I'll have to rewatch ROTJ, but I digress. Granted, I'm not sure how Boba will run such an Empire, we'll have to wait for his series to see that (super excited for that show, btw, been wanting to see Boba Fett beyond the OT in canon for a while), but I can't see him being a tyrant, or worse than Palpatine or Jabba, I mean he and Fennec allowed that Twi'lek slave to leave unharmed. He's not THAT much of a POS, he's a just a man...a simple man, trying to make his way in the galaxy, like his father before him.
3. Happy to have such discussions, I love having them as well, especially when they're civil.
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So Drow.... okay
Yeah, pretty much.
i wish i waz neutral evil , tired ov being so stuck az neutral good