Finally the video on WHEN to use Heavy, Medium and Light supports when resin 3d printing minis!
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- So many people have asked for this and I kept meaning to make it...and now I have :)
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I feel like I've learned more from this channel than from all the other 3D printing channels I watch, combined. Another great, informative video!
feel the same. Theory in combination with hands-on!
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What this gentleman preaches goes against everything companies and online tutorials have been reinforcing about supports. It is ugly, not intuitive, awkward, and spits in the face of every book written re: 'how to properly support your 3D resin models'...so I had to try this method too...
...and my GOD I have never had so many models come out beautiful and flawless on their first printings. Sir, I think I speak for everyone when I say PLEASE REWRITE ALL THE BOOKS AND TUTORIALS and title them 'how to ACTUALLY support your 3D resin models'. I'll pre-order a copy.
In all seriousness, your videos have been more helpful than anything else. I am beginning a start-up with my friend aimed at 3D miniature printing, and having this level of print consistency, efficiency, and quality has been paramount to our future success. Thank you! (Currently Printing on an Elegoo Mars Pro, with water-washable standard grey resin)
Fantastic demonstration video. Love how you explain the reasons why and not just 'here's how to do it'. Just got into 3d printing about 2 weeks ago and your series has been the most helpful content to get me going :D
I really like how you slid the layer guide down to make a given part like that left arm stand alone. That really helps visualize it as its own model and conceptualize how it needs to be supported.
My god dude. You are a complete boon to this community. Thank you for all the help!
No question, without a doubt, one of the absolute best videos on supports..... after watching this video you should feel confident moving away from auto supports! Thanks so much for these great videos...
This is the best support tutorial I have seen. I don't care how long it is if it is giving good information in an intelligible way. so many RUclips tutorials talk so fast to keep there videos short I just kind of go cross-eyed
I am new to 3D printing. Just got the Anycubic Mono Photon 4k and have already printed some prints that came pre supported and have wondered why the supports were were they were. This video is plain English anyone can understand. Thank you!
I have been watching videos off and on for the last 12 hours and this one has given me the most confidence. Great job.
Thank you so much for these videos! My prints are looking incredible after using your settings and its encouraging me to print more (I used to get a bit discouraged with the failed prints)! Keep up the good work!
I sure don't mind long videos, if it takes a long video to learn the correct method I'm here for the duration! Thanks for you hard work!!
Thank you, this video was very supportive.
I learned a ton from this video just in how you manipulate all the settings to find the islands. Definitely improved my supports 1000% which was my main frustration. Pre-supported models after setting my resin's exposure time was 100% success. Un-supported models I had to do myself were about 1 in 3 sort of did right so this helps a ton.
Just join the 3D resin printing world, your videos are extremely useful. Thank you
I that I've learned more about 3D printing & supports from this one video than 3 months of videos and research that I explored before purchasing my Elegoo Mars 2 Pro.
Using the advice, direction, and suggestions from this video, I was *FINALLY* able to successfully print a model that had been giving me trouble for over a week. THANK YOU!!!
Love these videos. Easily broken down and explained, communicated well, and you keep the audience's attention by how much enthusiasm you have. Keep it up!
I think another aspect of perfect supports (and the miniature too!) is the resin used. Would you agree? I don't know if you'd feel comfortable providing a video on your favorite resin mixture, but I'd be very interested in understanding what you use and why. I've mixed many of ST's different resins but still haven't found the holy grail of mixtures to create very tough, highly detailed miniatures
thank you for your time. you helped me understand enough to get back to work. just moving in from FDM printing and it's a completely different animal.
Ok your videos opened my mind and improved my prints A LOT. THANK YOU man, I recommend you to everyone that is getting into 3D printing, because you're awesome!
Got to say you are a saviour, since following you I’ve had nothing but successful prints and low problems :)
Just purchased some rights for my own minis and I wouldn’t be this far if it wasn’t for you, keep up the good work
thanks that's my goal! :)
I just want to give you a big thank you. I just got my Resin printer and I was getting so frustrated because so many printers were coming out as only supports. It has been going amazing since I started following your advice.
Would love to have seen how this turned out.
That's a solid 20m lesson, I teach and I'm impressed with your skills. Just got a Saturn and you helped the process a lot, thanks.
Thank you for the video. I'm new to resin printing and had a lot of failures until I started using custom supports and your video gave me all the info I needed to have a quality print!
I'd love to see you do a similar video for printing LARGE models on something like the Elegoo Saturn
Uncle Jessy sent me here. I guess we both owe him a thanks.
Indeed. I am having great results with some prints that failed me before. This approach and settings have made a huge difference!
Wowow what a good tutorial on how to use supports. I do not think a better one exists for this stuff. Please make a video of you doing supports from start to finish
:). I would watch it even if it's very long.
Doing my first 3D print right, your videos are the best. I feel way more comfortable with the setup after watching.
Thank you for your generous sharing on the support settings / support placement rules, I can really get something printed from my new resin printer after watching your videos. Cheers from HK.
Watching this strongly reconfirmed everything I've learned from your channel, and I'm glad they were all compiled into one video like this. Just to add more to the discussion, I like making tree supports (one thick support pillar with multiple joints touching the model), and the same principle from this video applies here, where you have to start with heavier supports, then branch out with smaller ones while minding the center of gravity of that part of the model before it connects to the main body. Also, you covered the new Chitubox update 1.6.5 and it works wonders having the middle and bottom parts of each support disappear at a specific angle so I can see where I'm placing the supports better. That greatly improved my workflow and QoL. Thanks for what you do, and keep it up! :D
Fantastic explanation!
I've had some pancaking, and was trying to figure out how to fix it.
Thanks!
Mike Alford Pancaking! That’s the word my frustrated mind had been looking for! Flat feet under the hip, no more!
Thank you so much for sharing your learnings and Settings with the Community!
You do great work. Thank you.
This helped a lot. I get it now. Much appreciated!
Ur excellent 3d printing teacher 💪
I've learned a lot from your channel, been printing since April this year and thanks to you have had very few failures. Most were by trusting presupported ones that weren't perfect.
These videos are great, you're awesome bro
I print really big models on my epax 156, been using medium supports and they seem to work in holding model. I think im gona go with light supports towards the top of the print to minimize scarring. Thank you for teaching us so much.
Very helpful video. Thank you!
I've been bingeing all your videos while I wait for my photon to come in and I think I am actually ready to start out with great prints. Thank you so much!!!
ansolutely outstanding videos - well explained, practical and instantly applicable - kudos on the great work
Thanks so much for this. It explains why some stuf i had stretched supports . I was doing it wrong , i did not know i could mix support types . DOH
Great video as always Greg, very detailed and instructive. I really appreciate you put on the effort to teach us.
Great video, my supports just went up a notch!
Man, thanks! Don't have the printer yet, already feel better about working with the supports.
thank you so much for this, waiting for my printer to arrive and this is a lesson i think i needed more than anything
I was hoping this topic would be eventually covered. Great job please keep up the amazing work you do.
Thank you. Having to redo supports from translucent to grey water washable resin. The grey doesn't harden near as much so have to increase support size and contact points. Models were being torn off at contact points. Now have to immediately cure instead of smooth contact points because it's so brittle and weak it'll fall apart.
Wish I had seen this sooner, it was a nice reassurance nevertheless seeing this and being able to verify my thought process, thanks a lot for these super informative videos!
Amazing video! A masterclass on the topic. Thanks!
Another great tutorial...thank you
So helpful, thank you
this video gave me the AH HA ! moment i been looking for , thanks
great tutorial! thanks
Your videos are great, thank you
That solved some of my wonders...Nice stuff : )
Great tips. I always find myself having a ton of supports. I need to work on minimizing the amount of supports I use.
I am brand new to resin prints, had my photon zero for just over a week. I have had no prints fail to attach to the build plate, it several presupported models fail to stay connected to the supports, both partially and fully. I am going to try using these ideas even on my presupported models.
Thank you for your amazing tutorials!
This exactly the information I needed. Thank you.
Damnn.. its actually pretty time consuming to get the best support for our model.
I feel like this was made for me LOL.... thank you!!
I find that if a small island only goes 3 or even 4 layers before joining the model it doesn't even need a support. At least with my Sonic Mini. The print comes out perfectly, no pancake.
I wish you would talk about the different type of resins along with making supports for them. I mainly use water washable and I have to change the supports quite a bit to get it to print properly without overexposing too much. By example the Titanforge models which are very lightly supported. If I don't increase/add supports to the heavier pieces, something is likely to fail on the print. However, If I use regular resin, a lot less failures occurs as the resin is stronger. I don't think going from 6.5s to 11s per layer is an acceptable solution like most people says. All to say that I would support differently based on the resin I plan to use.
Thanks for your tutorial, but I think you should change the audio ;)
I kind of resigned to the fact that I probably can't ever support my models as well as you do haha. I just cake the entire model with supports and decimate the surface of it nowadays. I need to either learn how to live with it or learn how to become a god at cleanup and fixing, lol.
Great info! Thanks!
Great video, thank you. I just got into 3d resin printing, haven't even printed anything but this answers a lot of questions and I can practice using Lychee. Of course I will go over this video multiple times. For a video idea you can pick out a free stl of a figure where people can download and follow along as you go through the support process. And then to end the video, actually print out the final supported product and review that. I think that would make an awesome video, especially combined with what you know about supports and 3d resin printing.
BTW do you print you miniatures solid or do you hollow them out? Again great job. Sub'd and liked.
I have an unrelated question that perhaps you could kindly answer.
I have a rather simple model to support. It is a bust. I hollowed it. Most of the islands I can support from outside. But the chin, and a necklace, it would be impossible (I think) to create a structure from outside the model, that supports it.
If I click on the places, for example to build a medium or thin support, it builds it, from the floor up to the chin, going through all the hollowed model. And I would need many of these kind of supports.
So my question is, would that be the correct way, to create supports that go through the model from fllor, through base, through model until reaching the point, or is there a way to create a support that goes from the model itself? thanks
Really enjoying your video and content. Superb knowledge my friend! As you continue to grow your channel, perhaps consider upgrading your audio recording capabilities. The noise artifacts do distract me a bit, especially when wearing headphones. /Subscribed!
When i have a model with feet like that i have to fill the whole foot with supports, not just the islands or the model will just snap off at the tips and then i end up with a lovely support model and a pancake on my FEP. Still learning as i have only been printing about a month but it can be annoying to have to place hundreds of supports on my bottom layers when you place like 5 haha!
Thank you for making these videos! As wait for my 3D printer, I've been watching and learning how to support my models. But I do have a question. Would I support a larger model the same way that I support a smaller one? For instance, if I scaled an ork boss up to 200%, will the way you teach to support models still work?
Great vid, i hope with your input Chitubox can blow everything out the water for supports, id love to see a feature where you can go through the layer like you do but instead of seeing the physical supports you can highlight areas you want supports and then it creates them at the end so you can adjust any bottom parts too close to the model and such. I have trouble with too much clutter of supports blocking the view. Am also struggling with warping of prints off the plate and im not sure what is causing it.
Different resins have varying levels of viscosity. Would you do a video on how the resin being used would affect how you would lay down supports for a model? Also what resins are ideal for what types of models?
I notice you are moving the tip of a support to a different location. How are you doing that? I'm also having trouble orbiting around. Sometimes it works, sometimes it won't budge. Very frustrating. I can't tell what's causing that. Thanks! this is very helpful information.
How do you navigate the supports when there's an absolute forest of them? I've had models where I literally couldn't get to one I needed to tweak the placement of. Also, how do you keep ChituBox from moving the base of the support when you're readjusting the top?
You know what frustrates me to no end is when chitubox randomly changes all my support settings and I have to reimport them. For a while there it seemed they fixed that issue but then it came back and I didn't even changes version from when it worked ok to when it didn't. It seems to be present in every version and just randomly happens for various lengths of time. One week it will work great then the next it could be terrible at keeping your support settings saved.
Hey Greg, would you consider doing content reviewing User Fails that they submit to you? Your videos are awesome for Stage 1, 2 and 3 of learning but sometimes there is tricky or easy stuff perhaps that you could educate watchers on. :) Like Sports-fails where you have the anti-example of what not to do lol.
I guess submitting settings screenshot, original stl and supported stl could make it work? Just an idea! Thanks again for the cool stuff sir
It looks like for some of the shaping or resizing you might be using shortcut keys do you have a list of them or recommended shortcuts?
Do you find yourself thinking about support placement in relation to orientation of the piece aswell as location on the build plate to take into account the angle the fep will be pulling away from it? As in located in different areas on the build plate the angle of force from the fep will be different.
Hello 3DPrintingPro, in this video i see you onle have a 0,02mm conac depth for the medium and light supports. In an earlier video you showed your updated settings which were a lot higher, are these depths better for models, and will they keep the model up?
you're a national treasure
Thanks Greg, useful video as always :). Was wondering if your older video where you combine and group the supports into one and branch out could still be applicable with this? I'd assume so, as this video is more in regards to where to support and with what kind of support. Thanks!
yep you can use this in conjunction :)
What are your thoughts on supporting horizontal surfaces that are at right angles to the rest of the model? Consider a 3" x 3" modular wall section with an open doorway, for example. How far apart would the vertical parts of the model have to be (e.g the walls either side of the open doorway) before you consider adding one or more supports to the horizontal part of the door frame? Or how much weight would the rest of the horizontal have to support (e.g. the rest of the wall above the door) before you add supports?
I sometimes find I get an almost corrugated effect along those horizontal parts when I support them, leaving me wondering if I have not supported them enough, or if I should not have supported them at all.
gravity and suction affect the shape, so a horizontal surface I would pepper with really light ones to make sure it keeps its shape
so your heavy, medium, and light supports are all the same except for the tip, the part that is touching the model? whats the difference between contact diameter and upper diameter? thanks
Would it be possible to do a support video for jewelry?
Very nice! Do you by any chance display your support setting/sizes somewhere? I understand they should be tweaked but what's a good starting point?
Break it down and explain why, then it’s so much easier to understand…thanks!!!
Did I miss something? Did you say? Why did you not put support under the hand holding the sword? - Great Info by the way - thank you!!!
Just for examples I was not actually supporting the model to print so I would have supports in many places not shown :)
@@3dprintingpro212 Gotcha - I totally understand!!!! Great job Chris - thank you
I have been learning a lot from your videos, i just got an Epax X1 a few weeks ago and are still trying to figure out some settings. Do you have some base settings i could try to see if that fixes my issues? My prints turn out perfectly lost of the time but i do have a bit come free from the supports. Thanks for all the informational videos that you do!
I'm probably overthinking this, but supports on resin printers is confusing me! I understand supports on FDM, the supports are basically under compression due to gravity. But on a resin printer, which prints upside down basically, the supports would be under tension, not compression, right?
yes
Useful as always, though I feel like you covered this in one of your earlier tutorials. One thing that I struggle with is orientation. You seem to have a knack for finding a good orientation right away, however sometimes I start supporting a model and halfway through I realize that the angle I'm working from is making things much harder than it needs to be. Sometimes it's hard to visualize when the model is complex. Any tips for that?
if there's no overwhelming reason (bunch of things pointing off in one direction) just doing 10-15 degrees back on most minis works best as a general rule :)
a very important question for me: what the hell do I do with teeth of miniatures? i'm using elegoo water washable resin and every time i try to support teeth they just get torn out with the supports, i've printed 2 skaven already and both have only their front teeth and i was gonna print a lord of change and it has thin teeth too and now i'm afraid it's teeth will be ruined too, what do i do?
I did try following this but it doesn't work well for straight object like a straight sword. It came out with noticeable curved, and I used 30 degree orientation too. If possible, can you show how to support straight object like a cylinder or circular like sphere type object.
I have a model I am having a TON of problems with, I have failed to get the supports right on it 6 times and its been nothing buy fails! is there a service somewhere to pay for someone to do supports?
Use lychee and put the autosetting in real , use heavy supports to the parts that will be sustain the whole structure (like feets if printed 90 degrees to the plate)
Every since changing my settings to yours, all of my prints have been failing...sort of. Most of the time it prints to the VAT at the point of contact to the model. For example: I printed a measuring tool and it peels from the contact to the model and prints all wonky!! It seems that it's ripping of the contacts at model.
Didnt do anything for me. 3 failed prints with light. Medium and heavy..
The auto button doesn't work for this???
How are you getting your supports to tie into each other?
I've been trying to print an anatomical specimen for students for a couple of days. automatic placement of supports does not work in any slicer. chitгbox formware prusha. maybe try something else for automatic? I don't think it's possible to place them manually
autos can't match hand placement
@@3dprintingpro212 do u think it is real for the model yadi.sk/d/jEYBqRXvSqTcOA