I am glad that Randy changed his finisher, He was always destined to be a big star but the RKO is one of the reasons why he is one of the biggest wrestlers of all time.
I dont think anyone should gatekeep a move especially if you arent wrestling anymore. Some people ask for permission and thats them but it shouldnt be mandatory to ask
@ I agree too. Using other people’s moves isn’t that serious lol, especially nowadays. Every type of innovative move you can imagine has probably been done already.
Do you think plagiarism is also OK? It's not, by any means. If you want to copy someone else's move, you have to ask permission and give him credit for it. No shameless five-finger discounts.
@@ROBBINYATHONGS He wasn't really doppelganger style of his opponent though, more or less just using others move sets even if not his opponent/tag team partner. But thats a pretty close case.
the Style's clash/face breaker was done by Crash Holly (r.i.p) first. Sting used the scorpion death lock after seeing (or versing Riki Choshu) who invented it. It's the Sasori-gatame (scorpion hold)
The ankle lock was the goto finisher for any pro wrestler with some kind of an IRL amateur wrestling background for quite a while. I honestly never saw that as Kurt ankles own personal finisher because people like Ken Shamrock used it before him. On the other side I'm glad they swirched it up and had guys like Chad Gable use a different finisher instead.
And even Stone Cold's excuse was BS. Back when he first started using the Stunner, it was performed without the kick, which apparently was too fast (like the Diamond Cutter) for the then-WWF audience to cheer for. The kick was purely a cue for the crowd to get ready to pop for the Stunner
Holy crap I forgot Ken Sham was one of the original guys to make it his FINISHER he tapped out some legends back then with the Shamrock Lock 🤣lol don't know what it's called
Fun tidbit WWE also knows as the WWF credited Ken Shamrock with his popularization of the Ankle Lock and considered one of the Top 5 submissions in history
I like when other wrestlers use their opponents moves. It makes it more believable like they added to their arsenal. In a real life if youre capable of doing a technique its something you might add
Haven't watched yet but based on the thumbnail, Angle stole the anklelock from Ken Shamrock...soo Edit: okay it does get explained in the video. Angle at least waited until Shamrock was done wrestling
The thing is I'm pretty sure that Ken Shamrock was still wrestling when Kurt started using the ankle lock or did Ken change his finish to a belly to belly suplex when he went to TNA in 2002?
@ You most likely won’t see the Tombstone performed in WWE because it’s “Undertaker’s move” and he made it famous. It has more to do with that than it does with the move being risky.
The tombstone is actually far safer than the original piledriver because the opponent's head is much higher off the mat and you don't sit down, you fall on your knees, so there isn't as much impact on their heads. Apart from that, both the Undertaker and Kane are giants, standing at 6'10"(208 cm) and 6'9"(205 cm) respectively, so their impressive height means opponents heads are actually even higher up, between their thighs instead of their knees, so they never even touch the mat when they fall. You can clearly see this if you watch either of their finishers.
Jerry Lawler took that as a major compliment coming from a gold medalist for him to take one of your smallest things to make it so big is a phenomenal compliment you could just tell by the way Jerry would say it. The straps are coming down. He was happy that Kurt was showing homage to him
I don't understand why Wrestlers get mad if someone else uses their finisher it's always a great tribute imo 🤷♀️ thankfully it seems it's not happening that often anymore with most veterans and legends probably being very proud if someone uses their finisher especially if they ask for permission first Btw. I had no idea Kanyon invented so many moves 😮 as the narrator said he was ahead of his time... RIP 😢
Back when I was as wrestling for "Streetfighter" Tim Flowers in International Championship Wrestling, I wrestled with a guy named Dirtbag (he used to call himself Teenaged Dirtbag, but dropped the Teenaged part after a while) who would do The Undertaker's "Old School" maneuver to set up for his finishing move. IIRC his finisher was a legdrop off the top turnbuckle, aka "Beautiful" Bobby Eaton's Alabama Jam.
i like that unhacked kurt angle.doesn't like to use space after periods,or commas.just like hacked kurt angle.coincidence?probably.a lot of people type like this,it's just not widely reported on.
AKA the Harlem Hangover back in WCW (when he teamed with his brother Stevie Ray as a part of Harlem Heat) Also I agree, but it's a shame that the impact was murder on Booker's body that he stopped using it regularly in the late 90s during his WCW TV Title reigns
Some things are dedicated moves and some aren’t. Realistically, the ankle lock seems like something every “sport style” wrestler should be able to do. Angle does it, Shelton Benjamin did it, Charlie Haas has done it, Jack Hager does it and Chad Gable does it. It seems to come with the collegiate version of wrestling. The difference should be the finisher. The walk off by Regal and Joe, I mean really anyone should be able to do that. Undertaker once said that wrestling went wrong when people started kicking out of finishers more often. I agree. Those should be individualized and protected. At least respect where it came from and ask to use it.
The biggest problem is finishers constantly NOT finishing the match... for a Wrestlemania or HIAC (not the gimmick PPV version) its understandable but not more than twice.. dont use a Tombstone, Stunner, Pedigree or Rock Bottom and let it be kicked out of on Raw or Smackdown
Idk I feel like Scorpion Deathlock and Sharpshooter are delivered pretty significantly differently. I feel like Bret's Sharpshooter tended to have his opponent's back bent and at a much higher angle than Sting's Scorpion Deathlock which was more bending in the legs which gave a much more scorpion shape to it. That being said sometime the Sharpshooter did come out much lower and did look much more like it but I don't think that there is any question that without the Scorpion Deathlock there would be no Sharpshooter he even admits to basing it off of it, whether or not it's close enough to be called a copy idk but it's definitely at least an homage to it.
There are only so many moves people can do, of course things will be copied. Unless you want people going back to using regular moves with a different setup as a finisher. Still remember some jobber in WCW whose finishing move was the "Fivearm". Was just a forearm strike with a different name.
Chris Kanyon Innovator of Offense was stolen from Tommy Dreamer's Innovator of Violence. At least that's what Raven said and he did know both of them pretty well.
I wouldn’t really call it stealing. Most of these guys were inspired by the wrestlers they watched growing up, paying tribute, or that wrestler is retired and doesn’t perform that finisher anymore.
Seth should be number 1. He stole Kenny Omega, Prince Devitt aka Finn Balor, Tanahasi The Japanese John Cena, The Rain Maker Okada, Shawn Michaels moves. It's embarrassing
Sting may have used it first but the move belongs to Bret because of the fact that he applies it MUCH better. It looks legit when Bret does it and like shit when Sting or anyone else does it.
ngl, as much as I love Mr. Mondaynight, Mr.PPV, The whole F'n show!... R V D. I am glad it was stolen by Shane and named Coast 2 coast so it already had the "universal arsenal" like name needed to be used forever with out fumbling by others later.
I am glad that Randy changed his finisher, He was always destined to be a big star but the RKO is one of the reasons why he is one of the biggest wrestlers of all time.
I agree. I loved DDP and what caused me to notice him was The Diamond Cutter. It's a quick and explosive move that also looks brutal as does the RKO
I originally knew the move as the Diamond Cutter 💎 🙌
The RKO just somehow came out of nowhere. 😉
it rivals the stunner...
Okay, that was the whole theme about the diamond cutter@@jasonlorphotofilms
Angle has no right to get pissy when he stole the Ankle Lock from Ken Shamrock and the Triple German Suplex from Benoit...
Was going to say the same thing
Yeah👌
💯 facts
Aka the family killa
I was gonna say the EXACT same thing!!!
Aj styles was mad that Michelle mccool had softer hair than him
Kanyon is SO under-rated. That dude was phenomenal.
I agree. Kanyon had great potential as a mainstream star
He didn’t want none though
Vince did him dirty
@@zinniaq3020 He did damn near everyone dirty if they were from WCW, ECW, or any other wrestling program not WWF / WWE.
@@TheBeelzboss Kanyon especially tho after he knew Kanyon was gay. It was as if Vince wanted to completely humiliate him
I dont think anyone should gatekeep a move especially if you arent wrestling anymore. Some people ask for permission and thats them but it shouldnt be mandatory to ask
It’s just done as a courtesy, especially if said move is an actual move that was invented or popularized by someone in particular.
@raze5783 I know but you don't have to is my point. I feel like using the move at all is respect enough
@ I agree too. Using other people’s moves isn’t that serious lol, especially nowadays. Every type of innovative move you can imagine has probably been done already.
Do you think plagiarism is also OK? It's not, by any means.
If you want to copy someone else's move, you have to ask permission and give him credit for it. No shameless five-finger discounts.
@@Leanzazzy it's not like these moves are copyrighted
Angle's RKO was possibly the lowest ever 😂😂
Because of Kenny Boy Shamrock,"tap out" rule was brought in wwe. And Ankle Lock is his move in pro wrestling.
WWF!!!
I wish Mattel would atleast make a WWE Elite figure of Kanyon. His contributions of moves deserves it. Also how badass would a Mortis figure be?
Even Batista used Ankle Lock..😅
Cody's "rule" is why I say his heel turn would be more Taskmaster than Homelander, that and his skull mask he wears sometimes.
Ngl I always wanted to see a wrestler whose gimmick is to copy his opponent
@@brolysupersaiyan1634 pretty sure their use to be one.. im a bit old now so I cant remember 100% well, lol
@@inaaronshead7331Eugene but he was a baby face and a bit on the slow side
@@ROBBINYATHONGS He wasn't really doppelganger style of his opponent though, more or less just using others move sets even if not his opponent/tag team partner.
But thats a pretty close case.
His moves have nothing to do with y people call him Homelander. It’s just the presentation and character which is nothing at all like Taskmaster.
the Style's clash/face breaker was done by Crash Holly (r.i.p) first. Sting used the scorpion death lock after seeing (or versing Riki Choshu) who invented it. It's the Sasori-gatame (scorpion hold)
WRONG!!!! AJ was doing that move when he first started wrestling in 1998. Look up NWA Wildside.
AJ has been wrestling for a long long long time.
The ankle lock was the goto finisher for any pro wrestler with some kind of an IRL amateur wrestling background for quite a while. I honestly never saw that as Kurt ankles own personal finisher because people like Ken Shamrock used it before him. On the other side I'm glad they swirched it up and had guys like Chad Gable use a different finisher instead.
4:49 Booker T's athleticism is amazing.
7:44 Stone Cold just making BS up. It's just to get them to bend over, bro.
And Stone Cold stole the stunner from Mikey Whipwreck who invented the move
And even Stone Cold's excuse was BS. Back when he first started using the Stunner, it was performed without the kick, which apparently was too fast (like the Diamond Cutter) for the then-WWF audience to cheer for. The kick was purely a cue for the crowd to get ready to pop for the Stunner
What’s that intro from? I forget which wrestler or tag team used that saying
I first saw the Flatliner used by Supernova in ECW, Joey Styles called it "Nova-Cane, one shot and you feel nothing!" 😂
i still dont get why they didnt call kurt angles ankle lock the "angle lock" seems like an easy layup for the gimmick
Technically Angle stole the Ankle Lock from Ken Shamrock
Holy crap I forgot Ken Sham was one of the original guys to make it his FINISHER he tapped out some legends back then with the Shamrock Lock 🤣lol don't know what it's called
Fun tidbit WWE also knows as the WWF credited Ken Shamrock with his popularization of the Ankle Lock and considered one of the Top 5 submissions in history
You didn’t watch the full video? Did ya
Didn't steal it
@@BePatientSeeLove you didn’t watch the video either. He literally asked Ken can he have the move after Ken stopped wrestling.
So hart and conan was wrestling in the shower? 😂😂
Dynamite Kid , Davey Boy Smith and Don Muraco all used what would become The Tombstone long before The Undertaker .
I like when other wrestlers use their opponents moves. It makes it more believable like they added to their arsenal. In a real life if youre capable of doing a technique its something you might add
Everyone uses the ankle lock its not even a serious submission hold anymore
Cody's "Mega Man rule" is great lol, for those that don't know when Mega Man defeats a boss in the games you can use their powers afterwards.
"You know what he stole that move from me JR" 😂😂😂😂😂 Jerry was hilarious 😂😂😂
Nobody does the ankle lock like Kurt Angle and Ken Shamrock.
Haven't watched yet but based on the thumbnail, Angle stole the anklelock from Ken Shamrock...soo
Edit: okay it does get explained in the video. Angle at least waited until Shamrock was done wrestling
Literally was about to say this
Exactly, I honestly think half these channel's are run by people born after 2000
So you judge a book by its cover without reading a few chapters ? He literally addressed the Ken shamrock Angle controversy 10:10
The thing is I'm pretty sure that Ken Shamrock was still wrestling when Kurt started using the ankle lock or did Ken change his finish to a belly to belly suplex when he went to TNA in 2002?
@leonglover6377 yes I do because sometimes you look like the crazy person reaching for that book with the messed up cover.
2:47 Alicia Fox also does this move as her finisher
Good video
Nobody will be Able To Use The tombstone Better then Taker and Kane… that’s why you Rarely see it because it’s a Risky move
Tombstone is done a lot outside of WWE.
@well I meant in WWE
@ You most likely won’t see the Tombstone performed in WWE because it’s “Undertaker’s move” and he made it famous. It has more to do with that than it does with the move being risky.
The tombstone is actually far safer than the original piledriver because the opponent's head is much higher off the mat and you don't sit down, you fall on your knees, so there isn't as much impact on their heads.
Apart from that, both the Undertaker and Kane are giants, standing at 6'10"(208 cm) and 6'9"(205 cm) respectively, so their impressive height means opponents heads are actually even higher up, between their thighs instead of their knees, so they never even touch the mat when they fall.
You can clearly see this if you watch either of their finishers.
No one uses it because it will jack up your knees
I thought that RVD's Coast to Coast was called the "Vandaminator"! I can't be the only one who thought that, right?!?
That's when he throws the chair and kicks it
The Vanterminator was in November to Remeber IIRC. And the Vandaminitor is a kicked chair to the head
I'm in the same boat. I've had the terminator and daminator backwards for years.
wut? i'm not high enough for this
This is why wrestlers ego are so fragile they get mad for stealing each other finisher and when you tell them it’s fake they throw a tantrum.
It’s business… that’s why..
It's similar dance choreography so it's no different that stealing dance moves
Beautiful Bobby Eaton did the Alabama Slam in WCW in the 90s
Jerry Lawler took that as a major compliment coming from a gold medalist for him to take one of your smallest things to make it so big is a phenomenal compliment you could just tell by the way Jerry would say it. The straps are coming down. He was happy that Kurt was showing homage to him
I don't understand why Wrestlers get mad if someone else uses their finisher it's always a great tribute imo 🤷♀️ thankfully it seems it's not happening that often anymore with most veterans and legends probably being very proud if someone uses their finisher especially if they ask for permission first
Btw. I had no idea Kanyon invented so many moves 😮 as the narrator said he was ahead of his time... RIP 😢
It's the difference between taking money from their pocket and paying tribute. Think about it
3:37 lol dont show jim cornette this. He thinks Dusty Matches looked real
Kanyon was so underrated
When talking about Rob Van Dam, you could have mentioned that RVD and Eddie Guerrero both did the frog splash as a finisher.
And Eddie use it as tribute to his old AAA Tag Team partner Art Barr who invented the Frog Splash
@@ShadowMoon878Actually La Fiera a Lucha Libre wrestler innovated the frog splash
Chris Kanyon was VERY underrated and WAAAAYYYY ahead of his time. I would stop what im doing to actually watch/study his matches.
12:11 Randy Prophesies WWE's Purchase.
Back when I was as wrestling for "Streetfighter" Tim Flowers in International Championship Wrestling, I wrestled with a guy named Dirtbag (he used to call himself Teenaged Dirtbag, but dropped the Teenaged part after a while) who would do The Undertaker's "Old School" maneuver to set up for his finishing move. IIRC his finisher was a legdrop off the top turnbuckle, aka "Beautiful" Bobby Eaton's Alabama Jam.
i like that unhacked kurt angle.doesn't like to use space after periods,or commas.just like hacked kurt angle.coincidence?probably.a lot of people type like this,it's just not widely reported on.
15:14 okay we gotta discuss how smooth that sequence was.
Yeah Taker in his prime was absolutely awesome, it was crazy to see that over 2m guy moving like a small dude.
A lot of the moves in this video were done before the OG did. Wasnt crash holly doing the “crash landing” before AJ STYLES?
1:31 what match was that?
HOT TAKE but overall I feel like Booker T always did the Book End better than the Rock did the Rock Bottom routinely
It doesn't matter what you feel 😂😂😂😂
The Kevin Owens stunner always looks funky to me
I’m just glad that some shine is being put on Chris Canyon’s name! It breaks my heart what he did
Didnt angle get his move from ken shamrock? That was the first time i saw it
I'm a give a little clue lol Shamrock was in the WWE before Angle.
Booker best finisher was the Houston Hangover.
AKA the Harlem Hangover back in WCW (when he teamed with his brother Stevie Ray as a part of Harlem Heat)
Also I agree, but it's a shame that the impact was murder on Booker's body that he stopped using it regularly in the late 90s during his WCW TV Title reigns
Some things are dedicated moves and some aren’t. Realistically, the ankle lock seems like something every “sport style” wrestler should be able to do. Angle does it, Shelton Benjamin did it, Charlie Haas has done it, Jack Hager does it and Chad Gable does it. It seems to come with the collegiate version of wrestling. The difference should be the finisher. The walk off by Regal and Joe, I mean really anyone should be able to do that. Undertaker once said that wrestling went wrong when people started kicking out of finishers more often. I agree. Those should be individualized and protected. At least respect where it came from and ask to use it.
Shawn Michaels also uses the sharpahooter. He even used it to win the WWF championship.
The Rock Bottom and the Book End is like SSB’s Fox and Falcon’s Special attack.
What about the bubba cutter and Matt Hardy’s twist of fate and or the 3D those was RKO’s
Not every cutter is an RKO
shane doing the coast to coast was awesome tho sucks RVD had to stop but rvd had so many banger moves
Holly's slam vs Chris Kanyon's really highlights just how much Holly didn't mind hurting people. Chris's slam looks better and safer.
You could make an entire video just on the moves that people have stolen from KENTA, Kanyon, and Nova.
Uuh the stunner was the Whipersnapper by Mickey Whipwreck.
Big Bossman changed his finish to the Alabama slam before his first run in wwf was over
The ankle lock was Ken Shamrock's move, but i don't know if there are earlier used that move before him
There is no denying the Miz's skull crushing finale finishing move is Jeff Jarrett's the stroke finisher.
5:26 TEXTBOOK definition of how to take a crazy bump to your back. look how hard orton is tucking his chin in. Gotta protect that noggin.
Triple H did the "Ace Crusher" and DDP told him nicely to went to the Pedigree
Ronnie Garvin's Reverse Figure 4 , the Scorpion and the Sharpshooter are all very similar .
The biggest problem is finishers constantly NOT finishing the match... for a Wrestlemania or HIAC (not the gimmick PPV version) its understandable but not more than twice.. dont use a Tombstone, Stunner, Pedigree or Rock Bottom and let it be kicked out of on Raw or Smackdown
priest also use the rezers edge to tribute the legend razer ramon
Surprised Ric Flair using the Figure Four wasn't on this list.
He and Buddy Rogers actually had a match over it.
Idk I feel like Scorpion Deathlock and Sharpshooter are delivered pretty significantly differently. I feel like Bret's Sharpshooter tended to have his opponent's back bent and at a much higher angle than Sting's Scorpion Deathlock which was more bending in the legs which gave a much more scorpion shape to it. That being said sometime the Sharpshooter did come out much lower and did look much more like it but I don't think that there is any question that without the Scorpion Deathlock there would be no Sharpshooter he even admits to basing it off of it, whether or not it's close enough to be called a copy idk but it's definitely at least an homage to it.
Seeing people sell the Stunner from Kevin Owens makes me mad. I hate when they don’t drop to their knees when they sell the stunner.
Stone Cold's stunner was so smooth. Cena's looked sloppy and forced.
The MegaMan Rule
I love it
There are only so many moves people can do, of course things will be copied. Unless you want people going back to using regular moves with a different setup as a finisher. Still remember some jobber in WCW whose finishing move was the "Fivearm". Was just a forearm strike with a different name.
Kurt needs to go somewhere and pop some PERCS talking smack as if he didn't steal his signature finishes😂😂😂
“Next thing you know… RKO!” Put that on a T-shirt after Randy retires!
Chris Kanyon Innovator of Offense was stolen from Tommy Dreamer's Innovator of Violence. At least that's what Raven said and he did know both of them pretty well.
3:32
Well, I'm pretty sure he got his dad's permission, don't you think?
People rarely acknowledge Cody's Crossrhodes was Christopher Daniel's Last Rites.
Test used the Cross Rhodes too, it was called the Test Drive.
Bruh RVD does it better than Shane anyways.
What about the Frog Splash? Who did it first: Eddie Guerrero or Rob Van Dam?
Thank god someone is giving Kant on his flowers. Especially after wwe and cena tried to bury and destroy him
'A few wrestlers have tried and failed' like Chris who just kinda failed his whole career
Jake HATED almost every DDT
I wouldn’t really call it stealing. Most of these guys were inspired by the wrestlers they watched growing up, paying tribute, or that wrestler is retired and doesn’t perform that finisher anymore.
There's a difference between "stealing" and "using" ...
Actually Austin Theory got his move from Brian Fury from Tekken
So Kanyon invented wrestling finishers, got it!
So... is the rule to get permission from the inventor of a move or just from the last person who used it? Or from everyone who has used that move?
Both
So many of these stories, especially ones like the Kanyon and Hassan ones, really reinforce how shitty and childish so many wrestlers are.
There are only so many moves. It is stupid that one wrestler can monopolize any move.
Seth should be number 1. He stole Kenny Omega, Prince Devitt aka Finn Balor, Tanahasi The Japanese John Cena, The Rain Maker Okada, Shawn Michaels moves. It's embarrassing
Mikey Whipwreck used the Stunner before Austin
Sting may have used it first but the move belongs to Bret because of the fact that he applies it MUCH better. It looks legit when Bret does it and like shit when Sting or anyone else does it.
No
Shamrock was doing the ankle lock before Kurt.
Jack Swagger does the ankle lock better than Kurt in my opinion
To be fair, Angle stole the ankle lock from Ken Shamrock, did he not?
ngl, as much as I love Mr. Mondaynight, Mr.PPV, The whole F'n show!... R V D. I am glad it was stolen by Shane and named Coast 2 coast so it already had the "universal arsenal" like name needed to be used forever with out fumbling by others later.
I think it’s poor when Cody literally says he gets the Cody cutter from osprey but then you say he got it from ddp and orton.
Dude did the GTs way better than punk
Some things should be removed or the video title is clickbait. How was the RKO stolen without permission when Ace and DDP gave him permission?
7:41 lol. That scientific explanation.
lowkey i hate that the stunner is used i like KO too but
So none of them had permission to use any of these moves or is the title just misleading? 🤔