They have problems w the shotcalling as well. People overlook their shotcaller in game. But the way they play is so stagnant that they blow their leads. Even analysts called them out about it.
Ceb is right, no point beating around the bush. You can tell if a team plays well together or not. The last DreamLeague was just a series of incredible good luck and not because they had good synergy or they play well together.
@@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436 good luck? did ceb really say that? wow thats some next level hate from ceb i always knew that he was mentally ill and na #1 hater but thats too much. even worse than his iconic ''did i fuck your girlfriend without even noticing'' lame comment
SR is just inconsistent. They play S tier into C tier. RTZ needs to retire, he is still good, but way past his prime. and SR needs to create a new roster. Saber and Abed has a lot more room to grow, just to be stuck with these guys.
When you watch the interview, Bulba is saying they are hoping they don't get last place. Maybe as a player one can easily sympathize with SR so it's not easy to make bold claims why the team is not working. And that is maybe the fundamental problem with SR, no one really wants to say anything so we all can live in a dream where Bulba drafts are all perfect, RTZ is the best carry and so on. If you want to do this right, get 2 captains, 3 player coaches, standins who can also be practice partners, therapist and nutritionist. Send the players to training for 6 months. All other top teams are doing this and more because they have serious backers who want more than just "hoping they don't get last place".
Yeah when your coach think like that that means u have a bad coach. They need new leadership. I don't know why they still stick with that kind of low ambition coach lulba for sure.
always did. he never won anything!!!!!!!! dont pretend he ever achieved something, when he didnt. he never was the good player people make him out to be.
The core 5 (Arteezy, Abed, Fly, Crit and Bulba) has been together for a long time and achieved nothing. Well, they achieved a little more than Nigma, so it could be worse. Still, this isn't enough. They have to make serious changes at the core 5, not simply find a new offlaner and hope next year will be the one.
I mean Ceb and even Notail have a point, Fly left OG for way less and after achieving a lot more, so what exactly is keeping this team together? If they are ok with constantly losing and just being mediocre that's fine, but then don't go to TI and pretend you are there to compete. Since Fly joined in 2018, this team has won 0 tier 1 tournaments, 5 years together, 0 titles! Hell, Fly even got kicked from EG some time ago, and came back for some reason lol They must really REALLY like each other a lot, enough for the lack of titles not being an issue here.
its ptsd, he made a huge mistake once by thinking notail and the rest were the problem to his success, just to be humbled into oblivion, by notail and co winning two TIs without him.
@@The_timelapse_arttheyve been together for a while now but still not getting any progress just like nigma with kuro is sticking with mc,miracle,gh and getting new midlaner. While Shopify they keep changing their offlaner but still couldnt figure out what their really problems are.
@@fk-fy7umhonestly, saberlight was a huge downgrade from nightfall. EG 2022 was a consistently good team and always performed well in tournaments (except TI) despite the lack of 1st place finishes.
@@jhdivina yes I agree theyre a good team with nightfall but his ex team is wasting his talent, so I feel happy seeing him as pos1 again u can see the diff between him and rtz 🙂
And RTZ as their carry. He’s a 2016 carry playing in 2023, its like that TI4-TI7 period where Burning was still hanging on as a 4 protect 1 hyper carry player… just go to sleep grandpa. Dota evolved past Burning, and now it has evolved past RTZ too.
They havent won any majors with bulba as coach, Actually Bulba hasnt won any Majors as player/coach the only time was with EG where ppd was drafting in TI5. Will need someone to tell me how he is so immune to criticism.
no, this team sucks ass. they just are too lazy at important times and take things casually. too many times , a lot of analysts prefer their draft to win and they still lose.
their players are mechanically and individually good. no doubt about that. however, it seems that all teams know how to read their gameplay and how to draft against them. most of the time, their draft sucks as well. they aren't really doing well as a stack. ceb was right with crit, rtz, bulba and fly being together for so long was never really something that gave them a significant achievement. they just need to accept it and part ways. at some point, it should've been detrimental for them but im not sure what they're trying to prove.
These morons have been playing the same rtc+4 Dota since Peter dager was a CEO If you take DK footage from 2013 (10 years ago)and blocked out the names you'd swear it's either early nigma where miracle played carry or eg.rtc Yeah I'd fucking hope teams know how to play against them by now
@@Peachy-or-not but ever since they left OG and joined RTZ and co, they never won anything, always second places and third places or even eliminated early in the tournament
scapegoat, so they can go tell themselves its not their lack of skill or bad drafts. its the offlane. fly and crit have ptsd from leaving notail, so they are scared to make that mistake again too, its a clownshow, that team.
@@anaskhadri653 He got many offers from different team it's just the management of SR and his last team EG are good and has a big salary Gaimin Gladiators offers Abed to roleplay mid Abed,Bryle and Quinn but only Quinn accept the offer, and the guy from the top says abed has no impact yet the real no impact was artour
@@ConbibMcmedov wtf you talkin? 😂 He's been carrying Shopify's ass all year long. Despite the fact that the draft always priorities Arteezy. You must be a troll or a hater. How pity. 😂😂
most high mmr players seem to be like that. waga and sing were streaming TI and you could hear all the selfimportant backseat gamers who would never play in ti, like excalibur, (i think gorkk c too) talking trash as if they were asked their oppinion.
Its their stream, they need to say something, also it's ok to speak up your mind even when nobody asked like you did here. We talk a bunch of bullshit too with our friends, and it does not matter if we are good or not in the subject.
@@gravity00x i'll use your logic against you. You backseating on their stream about what they can or cannot say when no one asked your opinion. Gorgc can go and say Topson is the worst midlaner even if he is herald... there's nothing wrong with that because it's an OPINION
For me it's obvoius they just play to collect paychecks. It's nothing bad, I just don't see how a team with no drive to win still has supporters. Rtz sometimes even giggling when he dies and the rest of the team putting comfort and/or friendship over results. Again, it's nothing bad, it's their team and they can do whatever they want, I just can't grasp how people are still supporting them knowing they won't change a thing and are just there to play some games with their friends and get a paycheck.
This is what I think as well. They're always aware that they're not good and don't appear to be frustrated with their horrible streak. I would have expected them to disband years ago.
I mean, people support teams for a whole bunch of different reasons. Why would you assume that there wouldn't be people that like them because they're a team of friends and nothing more? Everyone is acting like they're hot garbage. They made it to TI. There's dozens of pro teams that will never make the cut. If they're happy where they're at, then that's fine. Not everyone wants to be the greatest.
they must be laughing seeing Fly kept on failing to win a TI.. welp,thats what he get for betraying NoTail and Ceb. OG grasp two TI while he kept on stumbling hahahaha
imagine talking about your team didnt have motivation to win and then when you leave the team they immediately win TI back to back lmao 😂 if that is not curse idk what is, maybe fly need to ask forgiveness to notail first 😂
RTZ still to this day is a beast in laning stage and over all mechanics. His problem then and still now is his intuition and passive gameplay, he farm too much and takes too little chance on early team fights.
As good as Abed is, there’s a reason he was always knock out early in TI. Its either bad luck or he really dissappears in big tournaments. RTZ atleast has 2 3rd place finishes. Abed never ever surpass the first round I think
As abed fan he always good pre TI and in pubs just cant compete in all TI, while majority of his career was in sea cant just win at sea, been disappointing player only a group stage monster even at his peak career and a major 2nd placer. But his mechanical skills still op cant just win games need to disband 100%
@@nateriver6630Did Allah blind you from Abed's playstyle or are you talking about Abed the local gigolo in your hometown? That's a different Abed bro, as much as you’re attracted to him.
Abed doesn't feel like the problem for me. Whenever the team is playing bad he's always shouldering them. He feels consistent. I think the issue is, the team is built around RTZ. RTZ is a product of the Ti4, 4 protect pos 1 strat. He is an incredibly gifted player, with poor decision making skills. Idk man. Shopfiy/old EG felt like it hasn't been working for a while now, and I think this result will be a disband.
Its so funny. How rtz is always in this team despite how little impact he did in games, he is not even consistent and reliable. The biggest joke is they recruited ramzee and nightfall to the team, but rtz still get to play carry and those 2 need to play offlane. Both are way better carry then rtz. As an ex eg diehard fan, i will recommend to revamp this team. Kick rtz, bulba and kick fly for breath of fresh air on leadership. To make things easy, get nightfall or ramzee back as pos 1 since they are more familiar with this team, get fata in as pos5/captain. Fata was one of the reason tundra was wad it was today, and he is without a team now. Lastly maybe can try getting ppd back as coach as i trust his leadership back when eg earned top 3 in 3 ti in a row, ti4, ti5, ti6.
@@tyrannical3579casual? Lmao, a peenoise that debuted 7 years ago but never made a single achievement and never even got top 8 in TI. Lol lmao even, go on peenoise keep blaming everyone else beside ur own
what makes u decide its this game in particular and not the other 439 losses without a first placement? hes been gone to get the milk since day one. let it go man.
@@SlithereenSoul easy what? Sea probably only have 1 representation for majors or international tournament. How many times Midone played on Major this year? Playing on SR guaranteed secured the spot as NA representation
Abed : TI 7 9-12th / TI 8 13-16th / TI 9 13-16th / TI 10 9-12th /TI 11 9-12th / TI 12 13-16th People around the world: bruh this guy is a massive choker. Pinoy: uwahh i feel bad for abed. Team bad coach bad carry bad uwahhh
@@Mr022588we don't even know if miracle is any good these days. The guy dipped when Nigma was becoming dogshit to preserve his image. He hasn't played with a proper roster in a year. And in his last performance SR was 0/6/1, they didn't even make it out of the group stage 1. Fans don't want to accept that he's done with being a player and if he continued playing he'll be just as washed as the rest of Nigma.
@@GodDiggetyDoodle at least he somewhat realized that and stopped playing, but Abed and RTZ don't realize they are washed up, then there is people who are on high amount of copium for Abed.
@@imrankaixaidk about that, he lacks game awareness. I mean time and time he has questionable deaths getting killed from other side of the map by himself. Lol. Like at some point you gotta realize to change farming patterns bec teams already know what he about to do lol
what position? he's so bad in his positioning as pos 1 which is very crucial for pos 4/5. he always shows himself on map which makes his teammates forced to back him up whenever he is being targetted causing them in big disavantage. he can't be mid either he is so passive. JUST RETIRE NOOBTEEZY AND BE A FULL TIME STREAMER LIKE GORC
it might be a bit unorthodox but rtz needs to play heroes like spectre, dawnbreaker, np which has global spell since he likes farming so much. his team just can't keep playing 4vs5 for the first 30 minutes
just get a more decent carry and a more knowledagable coach. Not just a coach who drafts but has no deep understanding of countering gameplays. Freakin RTZ so limited hero pool
@@cinyihshumall of their player are good at choking hard and their fans keep defending them like its their god or something. When all peenoise team they wont get anywhere bro
ABED CRIT to OG FLYZ SABERCHAD RTZ (should take a time off) BULBA (SO OVERRATED) he speaks smart but his ideas are only based on theories and result of other teams
@@Averymindset Bulba seem to be sus. He looks he on crack. As well as RTZ. These 2 duo holding off EG success. E-sports should do drug tests as well not just Physical sports.
@@rakhatthenut3815 nigma players had aegis. just under a different team name. dont pretend its different players. SR\EG never achieved a fraction or actually ANYTHING that nigma did.
that's just how he plays all his dota life along. Its either he go to a team that adapts to slow but sure plays or risky win or lose, all out team. The problem lies of the chemistry, calls, and the strategy.
He only care for kda and stats, never winning. How can u play save in 20 minutes for a mid player and just jungle? And he always jump last and the first one to dip. Is that what u called stable? Yeah, stable for choking for the last 7 years
No one ever tells rtz he farms too much, and goes in way too insanely all of the time? Everyone sees it, i'm sure he knows he feeds. He can improve and yeah, against a team like tsm, rtz could solo carry if he didn't feed.
the hero picks were really bad on that game and I dont know the gameplan with that composition. They only have 1 Stun as well, so no solution for a Luna and a Lycan running to your face.
Anyone feels the same with me? This year TI is kinda weird.... those act from different teams u know....this make me feel like they bet their own team to lose man @@ if u watch all the matches u can see a lot of weird scenes like enemy teams get aegis and yet they smoke to fight...like wtf
@@Eliabby i have to agree with lightningmath, while rtz is one of the worst players to always attend ti, he is the last person to bet against his own team, its borderline p4th33ticc how he just cant let go. ure just delud33d with ur h0m03erot1c brother artussie. he has always been this b4d
It doesn't seem like Arteezy clicks with anyone, seems like his ego gets in the way of him being apart of a team and his baby rage is obviously a negative
They need a better coach, I don’t think it’s the player’s fault when they are already that highly skilled. Look at TSM having moonmeander as their coach, they knew what they’re doing with their drafts. Dark Willow and Morph isn’t Artour’s best heroes 😂 They could have picked a troll or something
They are all good players and clearly good friends but don’t have great synergy together, they also need someone who can understand the macro games better
That and a better in game shotcaller (captain). People blame lulba and rtz a lot but overlook their horrendous shotcalling. Analysts called them out about this. Where they always get ahead but lose this lead cos of playing stagnant. Not knowing draft timings lol.
they always update the game a month before TI right? i feel like bulba doesnt learn much for a month, like maybe they need a team to study current meta like when og recruit ceb as their coach.
there is nothing new here, this is should and have to disband, sr have a good player many of them but as team? you'll end up to seeing a good player being bad and i agree this is nigma no 2.
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"When is it enough, when are you gonna leave this team for EG?"
Ohhhhh, you know it's personal for Johan! 🤣
They have problems w the shotcalling as well. People overlook their shotcaller in game. But the way they play is so stagnant that they blow their leads. Even analysts called them out about it.
No players on SR have a major tournament win since 2017 lol. Saber and Abed have never had one.
Ceb is right, no point beating around the bush. You can tell if a team plays well together or not. The last DreamLeague was just a series of incredible good luck and not because they had good synergy or they play well together.
@@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436 good luck? did ceb really say that? wow thats some next level hate from ceb i always knew that he was mentally ill and na #1 hater but thats too much. even worse than his iconic ''did i fuck your girlfriend without even noticing'' lame comment
Abed deserves better
SR is just inconsistent. They play S tier into C tier. RTZ needs to retire, he is still good, but way past his prime. and SR needs to create a new roster. Saber and Abed has a lot more room to grow, just to be stuck with these guys.
@@uglyhorseteethbritshtdude abed has not won anything significant since his famous meepo on TI. They all bad
Sumail in the room just touching his face when Ceb blurts out theyre gonna disband and the flames are turning up lmao
When you watch the interview, Bulba is saying they are hoping they don't get last place. Maybe as a player one can easily sympathize with SR so it's not easy to make bold claims why the team is not working. And that is maybe the fundamental problem with SR, no one really wants to say anything so we all can live in a dream where Bulba drafts are all perfect, RTZ is the best carry and so on. If you want to do this right, get 2 captains, 3 player coaches, standins who can also be practice partners, therapist and nutritionist. Send the players to training for 6 months. All other top teams are doing this and more because they have serious backers who want more than just "hoping they don't get last place".
"hoping they don't get last place" - They had low standards and couldn't even meet them.
Yeah when your coach think like that that means u have a bad coach. They need new leadership. I don't know why they still stick with that kind of low ambition coach lulba for sure.
Even I as a hardcore RTZ fan cannot defend his showings at this TI. He played like garbage
imagine being a fan of a shit player kek
but that rampage tho
always did. he never won anything!!!!!!!! dont pretend he ever achieved something, when he didnt. he never was the good player people make him out to be.
@@gravity00x have u ever played in ti if not than stfu i agree he is playing bad now doesn't mean u can trash talk get a life
RTZ is the most overrated player in the dota scene. He was never that good.
The core 5 (Arteezy, Abed, Fly, Crit and Bulba) has been together for a long time and achieved nothing. Well, they achieved a little more than Nigma, so it could be worse. Still, this isn't enough. They have to make serious changes at the core 5, not simply find a new offlaner and hope next year will be the one.
atleast 4 of the 5 nigma won a ti, they changed team name but same players still
I mean Ceb and even Notail have a point, Fly left OG for way less and after achieving a lot more, so what exactly is keeping this team together? If they are ok with constantly losing and just being mediocre that's fine, but then don't go to TI and pretend you are there to compete. Since Fly joined in 2018, this team has won 0 tier 1 tournaments, 5 years together, 0 titles! Hell, Fly even got kicked from EG some time ago, and came back for some reason lol They must really REALLY like each other a lot, enough for the lack of titles not being an issue here.
and bulba too. Those guys must love bulba, even tho he pick them weird lineup and heroes that they hasnt practice as a team before.
You just saying they are gey with many language
Fly left and they were awful in NA of all regions, they only managed to qualify back to TI when they rehired Fly
its ptsd, he made a huge mistake once by thinking notail and the rest were the problem to his success, just to be humbled into oblivion, by notail and co winning two TIs without him.
At this point they might as well quit, all of their generation has won their TI and happily retired.
This is for their own good, honestly they need to lose this for them to realize that they need to disband. They are pulling each other down
Could u pls explain me what went wrong with their team ? I'm just not aware of the current roster.
@@The_timelapse_art everything, especially their coach.
@@The_timelapse_arttheyve been together for a while now but still not getting any progress just like nigma with kuro is sticking with mc,miracle,gh and getting new midlaner. While Shopify they keep changing their offlaner but still couldnt figure out what their really problems are.
@@fk-fy7umhonestly, saberlight was a huge downgrade from nightfall. EG 2022 was a consistently good team and always performed well in tournaments (except TI) despite the lack of 1st place finishes.
@@jhdivina yes I agree theyre a good team with nightfall but his ex team is wasting his talent, so I feel happy seeing him as pos1 again u can see the diff between him and rtz 🙂
As long as they have bulba as their coach, there will be no future for them.
Cant help but agree
And RTZ as their carry. He’s a 2016 carry playing in 2023, its like that TI4-TI7 period where Burning was still hanging on as a 4 protect 1 hyper carry player… just go to sleep grandpa. Dota evolved past Burning, and now it has evolved past RTZ too.
They havent won any majors with bulba as coach, Actually Bulba hasnt won any Majors as player/coach the only time was with EG where ppd was drafting in TI5. Will need someone to tell me how he is so immune to criticism.
no, this team sucks ass. they just are too lazy at important times and take things casually. too many times , a lot of analysts prefer their draft to win and they still lose.
Abed : TI 7 9-12th / TI 8 13-16th / TI 9 13-16th / TI 10 9-12th /TI 11 9-12th / TI 12 13-16th
Abed fans : uwahhhh its bulb’s fault uwahhhh
Fly switched from Israel to Canada real quick 😂 Either way, time to disband for SR.
jews are about to be thrown out of every country on the planet (again) unless you're a hardline Ashkenazi jew you have no reason to support Israel
maybe he just realize that Israel is a shittiest country in the universe 😂😂
their players are mechanically and individually good. no doubt about that. however, it seems that all teams know how to read their gameplay and how to draft against them. most of the time, their draft sucks as well. they aren't really doing well as a stack. ceb was right with crit, rtz, bulba and fly being together for so long was never really something that gave them a significant achievement. they just need to accept it and part ways. at some point, it should've been detrimental for them but im not sure what they're trying to prove.
These morons have been playing the same rtc+4 Dota since Peter dager was a CEO
If you take DK footage from 2013 (10 years ago)and blocked out the names you'd swear it's either early nigma where miracle played carry or eg.rtc
Yeah I'd fucking hope teams know how to play against them by now
Both RTZ, Crit, fly and Abed are always choked when it comes to big tournaments. Kind of a perfect fit for each other.
both means two bro 😂 You mentioned four people
Crit and fly has won majors before, so “always” doesn’t apply
what you mean big tournaments? they choke every tournament lol
They're all trash
@@Peachy-or-not but ever since they left OG and joined RTZ and co, they never won anything, always second places and third places or even eliminated early in the tournament
We all know the offlaner is always the one to get replaced every season xD
scapegoat, so they can go tell themselves its not their lack of skill or bad drafts. its the offlane. fly and crit have ptsd from leaving notail, so they are scared to make that mistake again too, its a clownshow, that team.
I can see him joining secret of he ever gets kicked. He has a lot to learn from puppey
i feel bad for Abed, i hope he joins a good team that treats him right
The most overrated player. He's good but lack of impact as a mid player.
Iam pretty sure he is not getting offers from top team that's the reason for him not leaving sr
@@anaskhadri653 He got many offers from different team it's just the management of SR and his last team EG are good and has a big salary Gaimin Gladiators offers Abed to roleplay mid Abed,Bryle and Quinn but only Quinn accept the offer, and the guy from the top says abed has no impact yet the real no impact was artour
@@ConbibMcmedov wtf you talkin? 😂
He's been carrying Shopify's ass all year long. Despite the fact that the draft always priorities Arteezy.
You must be a troll or a hater. How pity. 😂😂
@@anaskhadri653 quinn had an offer after having the worse season of his career in quincy crew. You dont know things behind the screen
U can only have one reckless guy in a team , like topson is the reckless one and ana is the chill one
i've been kinda out of the loop of dota since ti9/ti10... now i come back everyone is suddenly bald lol. as a bald guy i finally feel represented x
even im surprised they stick together after EG. they even keep bulba as coach.
The 3rd placer eliminates the 1st runner in north. That's hilarious.
Rtz doesn't miss to disappoint. Hahaha
Change Coach = Better Drafting
Change POS1 = With Many Hero Pool
and you see the potential of this roster
having analogy as Nigma number 2 is very accurate
except nigma won TI and many....MANY!! majors. please dont throw nigma into the same pool as that tr4sh
and the carry wasnt the problem for nigma
@@gravity00x couldn't agree more
@@gravity00xwhat do you mean many many majors? the only major they won was the supermajor back in 2018
@@gravity00x no, Nigma didn't won TI, it's Liquid. It's like saying Secret won TI even if it's only Puppey.
as long as Bulba calling the shots they are going nowhere
gorgc acting like his opinion matters in that conversation lmaoooo
most high mmr players seem to be like that. waga and sing were streaming TI and you could hear all the selfimportant backseat gamers who would never play in ti, like excalibur, (i think gorkk c too) talking trash as if they were asked their oppinion.
Its their stream, they need to say something, also it's ok to speak up your mind even when nobody asked like you did here. We talk a bunch of bullshit too with our friends, and it does not matter if we are good or not in the subject.
@@privategaming2105these people here are just jealous, don't bother with them.
@@gravity00x i'll use your logic against you. You backseating on their stream about what they can or cannot say when no one asked your opinion.
Gorgc can go and say Topson is the worst midlaner even if he is herald... there's nothing wrong with that because it's an OPINION
Cannot listen to him. Unbearable.
For me it's obvoius they just play to collect paychecks. It's nothing bad, I just don't see how a team with no drive to win still has supporters. Rtz sometimes even giggling when he dies and the rest of the team putting comfort and/or friendship over results. Again, it's nothing bad, it's their team and they can do whatever they want, I just can't grasp how people are still supporting them knowing they won't change a thing and are just there to play some games with their friends and get a paycheck.
This is what I think as well. They're always aware that they're not good and don't appear to be frustrated with their horrible streak. I would have expected them to disband years ago.
I mean, people support teams for a whole bunch of different reasons. Why would you assume that there wouldn't be people that like them because they're a team of friends and nothing more?
Everyone is acting like they're hot garbage. They made it to TI. There's dozens of pro teams that will never make the cut. If they're happy where they're at, then that's fine. Not everyone wants to be the greatest.
@@TheTrueChaks look at the thumbnail.
what check man, the TI prize is lower af and the player got how much after the cut and all.
The only tornoument in the last season that SR played nice was when they had Mikey as the midlaner...
they must be laughing seeing Fly kept on failing to win a TI.. welp,thats what he get for betraying NoTail and Ceb. OG grasp two TI while he kept on stumbling hahahaha
its perfect. if he stayed, they would never win ti because of him. he basically did notail a favor! a saint if u will
imagine talking about your team didnt have motivation to win and then when you leave the team they immediately win TI back to back lmao 😂
if that is not curse idk what is, maybe fly need to ask forgiveness to notail first 😂
RTZ still to this day is a beast in laning stage and over all mechanics. His problem then and still now is his intuition and passive gameplay, he farm too much and takes too little chance on early team fights.
"beast" who never wins anything
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 COPIUM BE HITTING HARD
Wcyd.
Man is trash at best bro l0lz
😂😂
Bulba's drafting I.Q is close to zero
Please RTZ just go full time streamer im so tired of watching Gork clips here on YT
Why watch gorpee?
Always appear on fyp even though clicking don't recommend this channel many times
As good as Abed is, there’s a reason he was always knock out early in TI. Its either bad luck or he really dissappears in big tournaments. RTZ atleast has 2 3rd place finishes. Abed never ever surpass the first round I think
As abed fan he always good pre TI and in pubs just cant compete in all TI, while majority of his career was in sea cant just win at sea, been disappointing player only a group stage monster even at his peak career and a major 2nd placer.
But his mechanical skills still op cant just win games need to disband 100%
nah bro, abed is suck as well
Idk Abed seems to shoulder this team whenever they play bad or someone plays bad. It's a tough job to do.
@@nateriver6630Did Allah blind you from Abed's playstyle or are you talking about Abed the local gigolo in your hometown? That's a different Abed bro, as much as you’re attracted to him.
Abed doesn't feel like the problem for me. Whenever the team is playing bad he's always shouldering them. He feels consistent.
I think the issue is, the team is built around RTZ. RTZ is a product of the Ti4, 4 protect pos 1 strat. He is an incredibly gifted player, with poor decision making skills. Idk man. Shopfiy/old EG felt like it hasn't been working for a while now, and I think this result will be a disband.
As a fan who has followed RTZ for a long time, he needs to leave the team and stream or something, he is not cut out for high level pro dota anymore
this is like a DEAD MARRIAGE AND THEY ARE STILL TOGETHER THEY NEED COUPLE COUNSELING
at least , sumail already win TI ..
at least they didnt spam storm spirit every match this time
Rtz and bulba’s curse.
dont forget about fly curse, he always choke on TI.. OG won 2 times after he left
Abed : TI 7 9-12th / TI 8 13-16th / TI 9 13-16th / TI 10 9-12th /TI 11 9-12th / TI 12 13-16th
Pinoy: its rtz curse
where can we see this stream?
OG channel
No worries they all got the biggest bets from this losing 😂
Its so funny. How rtz is always in this team despite how little impact he did in games, he is not even consistent and reliable. The biggest joke is they recruited ramzee and nightfall to the team, but rtz still get to play carry and those 2 need to play offlane. Both are way better carry then rtz. As an ex eg diehard fan, i will recommend to revamp this team. Kick rtz, bulba and kick fly for breath of fresh air on leadership. To make things easy, get nightfall or ramzee back as pos 1 since they are more familiar with this team, get fata in as pos5/captain. Fata was one of the reason tundra was wad it was today, and he is without a team now. Lastly maybe can try getting ppd back as coach as i trust his leadership back when eg earned top 3 in 3 ti in a row, ti4, ti5, ti6.
Abed played ti for more than 5 years but still never got top8. They had to disband now.
casual lol. You know how to observe or just blame 1 player most of the time?
@@tyrannical3579no, we should be like pro peenoise, blame everyone else but peenoise, doesn't matter how hard peenoise choke. Right? 😂😂😂
@@tyrannical3579casual? Lmao, a peenoise that debuted 7 years ago but never made a single achievement and never even got top 8 in TI. Lol lmao even, go on peenoise keep blaming everyone else beside ur own
Ceb called it.
Malder gorgc thinks he's important sitting with the big boys😂
its either RTZ kicked and picks a better carry or move him to pos3. They need a carry that they can rely on even if they are losing.
This might be it RTZ is just not there anymore
what makes u decide its this game in particular and not the other 439 losses without a first placement?
hes been gone to get the milk since day one. let it go man.
This is why i hate gorc. Dude acts like he won something as a pro.
its always the ones with the least selfconfidence. take a look at sumail, he doesnt talk a single word of sh1t regardless of who does what.
No one's gonna say this. Fly is a such people pleaser. His decision making in late games are so bad most of the time.
Fly's karma maybe.
Secret Abed confirmed 🔥🔥🔥
I feel sad for Abed he plays really well in providing space to the carry. He needs a better team now.
This is his best team, he's not going to leave NA to gamble on EU or Sea
@@zagaraditya890 EU is a gamble, but SEA is easy now. Only Talon as 1 good team and who knows maybe talon players might get poached.
Let me guess, you're Filippino, aren't you?
@@SlithereenSoul easy what? Sea probably only have 1 representation for majors or international tournament. How many times Midone played on Major this year?
Playing on SR guaranteed secured the spot as NA representation
Abed : TI 7 9-12th / TI 8 13-16th / TI 9 13-16th / TI 10 9-12th /TI 11 9-12th / TI 12 13-16th
People around the world: bruh this guy is a massive choker.
Pinoy: uwahh i feel bad for abed. Team bad coach bad carry bad uwahhh
Hoping that abed and 23 savage in one team❤
Here's hoping to see Abed and Miracle in one team
Nah...abed is bad....dont pollute miracle with some low competency player who never won any trophies throughout his career
Miracle stand in for abed earlier this year. Don’t think they can play together if they both play same role lol
@@Mr022588we don't even know if miracle is any good these days. The guy dipped when Nigma was becoming dogshit to preserve his image. He hasn't played with a proper roster in a year. And in his last performance SR was 0/6/1, they didn't even make it out of the group stage 1.
Fans don't want to accept that he's done with being a player and if he continued playing he'll be just as washed as the rest of Nigma.
@@GodDiggetyDoodle at least he somewhat realized that and stopped playing, but Abed and RTZ don't realize they are washed up, then there is people who are on high amount of copium for Abed.
@@Mr022588true that's why dendi still one the best player today. Dendi>NothingToSay also Larl > NothingToSay
Hope abed joins eu or back at sea next season
id like to see rtz either switch roles or quit
Imo, he will be amazing in pos 4
I think he would be much better as a scaling 4 aswel@@imrankaixa
@@imrankaixaidk about that, he lacks game awareness. I mean time and time he has questionable deaths getting killed from other side of the map by himself. Lol. Like at some point you gotta realize to change farming patterns bec teams already know what he about to do lol
what position? he's so bad in his positioning as pos 1 which is very crucial for pos 4/5. he always shows himself on map which makes his teammates forced to back him up whenever he is being targetted causing them in big disavantage. he can't be mid either he is so passive. JUST RETIRE NOOBTEEZY AND BE A FULL TIME STREAMER LIKE GORC
He needs to be a support now. Notail did that and win TI
it might be a bit unorthodox but rtz needs to play heroes like spectre, dawnbreaker, np which has global spell since he likes farming so much. his team just can't keep playing 4vs5 for the first 30 minutes
just get a more decent carry and a more knowledagable coach. Not just a coach who drafts but has no deep understanding of countering gameplays. Freakin RTZ so limited hero pool
Abed need to join a ph team with dj and tims
Then peenosie would have no one to blame when then lose. Wouldn't it be nice? 😂😂😂
@@cinyihshumall of their player are good at choking hard and their fans keep defending them like its their god or something. When all peenoise team they wont get anywhere bro
@@cinyihshum"Abed need to join a ph team" haha these pinoys mehn are blaming again😂😂
Time for 5 (even 6) of them to go different team
ABED CRIT to OG FLYZ SABERCHAD RTZ (should take a time off) BULBA (SO OVERRATED) he speaks smart but his ideas are only based on theories and result of other teams
some big words for fly again? hahaha no surprise!
I dont know why i feel happy. That shit Fly cant go to next phase LOL
Abed is the James Harden of Dota. Only cares about stats.
Did gorc take a bath?
This is a disband!! Bulba get out!! ❤
Entity should offer Abed
Let me guess. You are pinoy.
@@Averymindset and you are racist gae. Gabbi rocking on Entity. How's that feeling you? You must be IYD fan xD or countrymen
@@Averymindset Bulba seem to be sus. He looks he on crack. As well as RTZ. These 2 duo holding off EG success. E-sports should do drug tests as well not just Physical sports.
@@tyrannical3579Abad looks soft, play soft like a transgender, they need to have a gender test on Abad. 😂😂😂
rtz the overrated pos 1
He's a legit pos 1 years ago... it's just that his playstyle is no longer effective in today's META.
Who overrate him? In your fantasy world? All SA carries can do 3 times as better than rtz
@@marklucero6206 not me obviously
@@amateruss He was always a better pos 2 than 1, though. He only became 1 because of Sumail.
@@amateruss When was his playstyle effective in any meta? LOL
Love to see Sumail lepaking with OG members still. He's really a part of the family now.
at least nigma got aegis, bruh rtz and gangs really cursed
He is just a noob
Nigma does not have aegis. Liquid does.
@@rakhatthenut3815 it belong to rooster u shit
@@rakhatthenut3815Nigma stack was almost the same roster as Liquid TI7 bro
@@rakhatthenut3815 nigma players had aegis. just under a different team name. dont pretend its different players.
SR\EG never achieved a fraction or actually ANYTHING that nigma did.
Bulbasaur left the chat
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Abed is so stable, that's good but he needs to be a little aggressive and greedy, just a little bit would help them
He needs to stop minding his kda, he plays for stats like lultz😂
KDA passive player.
Lose
Blame rtz
Abed’s classic move
that's just how he plays all his dota life along. Its either he go to a team that adapts to slow but sure plays or risky win or lose, all out team. The problem lies of the chemistry, calls, and the strategy.
@@tyrannical3579why would anyone buy such a low adaptability player then? Such a bad investment.
He only care for kda and stats, never winning. How can u play save in 20 minutes for a mid player and just jungle? And he always jump last and the first one to dip. Is that what u called stable? Yeah, stable for choking for the last 7 years
Bro game 1 was just embarassing. Everyone was making fun of them, casters, even the opposition
sorry but who was surprised by this? tsm was the top performing team of NA for quite some time now, they were favorites going in, and showed why
No one ever tells rtz he farms too much, and goes in way too insanely all of the time? Everyone sees it, i'm sure he knows he feeds. He can improve and yeah, against a team like tsm, rtz could solo carry if he didn't feed.
abed will join the clown team BLACKLIST IN OPHIR 🤔🤔🤔
How surely abed gonna join in blacklist? Thats stupid thought.
the hero picks were really bad on that game and I dont know the gameplan with that composition. They only have 1 Stun as well, so no solution for a Luna and a Lycan running to your face.
Fully agree to Ceb not bias opinion rights there.
Anyone feels the same with me? This year TI is kinda weird.... those act from different teams u know....this make me feel like they bet their own team to lose man @@ if u watch all the matches u can see a lot of weird scenes like enemy teams get aegis and yet they smoke to fight...like wtf
Because you're projecting. Rtz would never bet against his team. The guy alone is too hungry for a title and he's too rich to do it. What for?
@@EliabbyHow rich is he?
@@Eliabby i have to agree with lightningmath, while rtz is one of the worst players to always attend ti, he is the last person to bet against his own team, its borderline p4th33ticc how he just cant let go. ure just delud33d with ur h0m03erot1c brother artussie. he has always been this b4d
@@tutowo7304He is not rich rich but he is well off. Won over 2 million from dota alone, and thats not counting his streaming and sponsors + salary
I mean have you reached ti with og?
Shopee pay later out😱😱😱
Spotify
Fire bulba
he seem to be on crack. Also clownteezy. The duo of holding off EG's success making their org a source of their vices. Not a competition
RTZ THE MOST UNSUCESSFULL PLAYER FOR THE SUCESSFULL PLAYER
They are laughing
They going down the Nigma hole...
Fly gonna fly to Lisbon to join notail in casting this TI 😂😂😂
Nah Notail wouldn't let him join
Nah, fly gonna leave this team and join EG with CriT-
@@supesulgiFly is getting old already, its time to become a coach like Ceb or Notail.
He's not going to win anything.
@@MincWW I'm sorry I didn't make it clear, that's a sarcasm to my comment. Just like what fly did when he left OG with s4.
It doesn't seem like Arteezy clicks with anyone, seems like his ego gets in the way of him being apart of a team and his baby rage is obviously a negative
Most likely disband
Who is gor?
i think bulba really dont want these players to win maybe he secretly hates SR players wtf
They need a better coach, I don’t think it’s the player’s fault when they are already that highly skilled. Look at TSM having moonmeander as their coach, they knew what they’re doing with their drafts. Dark Willow and Morph isn’t Artour’s best heroes 😂 They could have picked a troll or something
saberlight deserve better team
RTZ idk man, decision making is off
Atleast nigma has arab money, easy life without have to play games
They are all good players and clearly good friends but don’t have great synergy together, they also need someone who can understand the macro games better
Or maybe they need better drafter who really understands current metas. I dont really see their drafts good everytime. But thats just me.
That and a better in game shotcaller (captain). People blame lulba and rtz a lot but overlook their horrendous shotcalling. Analysts called them out about this. Where they always get ahead but lose this lead cos of playing stagnant. Not knowing draft timings lol.
Fly and crit still playing 2018 dota
they always update the game a month before TI right? i feel like bulba doesnt learn much for a month, like maybe they need a team to study current meta like when og recruit ceb as their coach.
Sumail need to replace RTZ
Hopefully Abed could find a better teamates that suit his playstyle
His playstyle as being useless? He'd still lose. 😂😂😂
Alrdy know in tour they keep losing from tsm, its like 10% chance win for shopify, k1 play better then rtz i cant believe
true so funny. They should swap carry haha
Fly not doing well after depart from NoTail. Arteezy is a good farmer but he has no chemistry with the team.
RtZ should try Offlane. He cant carry anymore
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Nah is too passive to be offlane
who wants an offlaner that just farms all game and then dies first every fight
there is nothing new here, this is should and have to disband, sr have a good player many of them but as team? you'll end up to seeing a good player being bad and i agree this is nigma no 2.
nigma, secret, eg=sr in the gutter , old
rtz best dota player ever.
Bulba is the key so kick bulba.