2:22 How concept of Io the carry idea was created... 3:20 Why team OG decided to believe in ANA Io carry line up 4:15 ANA gives love back to team for letting him shine. 6:00 Casters are shocked #BSJ, #Grant #Kyle... 7:35 Fountain diving with Io 8:00 What it means to be a Carry or Position 1 player with Io 9:45 PSG.LGD bans Io every time in UPPER BRACKET FINALS 10:30-12:38 lvl 25 io carry explained and clip of fighting backdoor protection 14:00 My final thoughts. -I hope you guys enjoyed, Subscribe if you wish and welcome to the Family! We got more content on the way. Stay tuned Much love to all.
Okay, I made a comment about this as well but I'm putting it here as a reply so the author or more people can see this. Eric Wright pioneered carry Helm Io two years ago.
I don't play DotA2 (I played DotA years ago). I watched TI because I enjoyed the OG story from last year. I wanted to see an explanation as to why Io carry was so surprising and the mechanics behind what made it so impressive. All you kept repeating is saying it's dangerous, Ana is amazing and everyone being surprised by the pick. You don't actually explain anything. If you did, I skipped over it because you just kept rambling about nothing. Next time you make a video, try making a plan about what you're trying to explain rather than figuring out ways to make the video last longer than 10 minutes. Talk about mechanics, synergies, calculations, power spikes, specific impressive plays, etc. This was awful.
The reason the strategy was so successful was because a lot of changes had been made to the hero in a couple different patches that eventually made this strategy viable. Those changes were his talents (lvl 10 spirits slow and lvl 15 2x spirit damage). Then right before TI9 they added an scepter upgrade to io that made spirits spawn passively every second around him instead of being an active with a cooldown. Basically even tho io doesn’t out farm other carries all needed was lvl 15 plus scepter then he could win fights against enemies carries even if they had a higher net worth than him. I think that’s the reason the hero was broken and amazing job by Ana to discover this as most players would never even try a start like that especially at TI.
If you still wondering, IO is mostly pure support hero that depend on other hero to be useful, but ana decided to play it as a carry role that didn't depend on other hero with lvl 10 and lvl 15 talent plus aghanim sceptre, at that point IO was dangerous enough but not many can achieve that lvl 15 + agh in short time like ana did, if IO farmed too long the enemy carry would become too hard to handle because the lack of pos 1 hero in ur team at early to mid game, that's why ana IO is considerably scary he lost 0 IO game at TI9 and he have total point of 48-8 in his recent game as IO, and what more terrifying is when he reach lvl 25 like we see in video it just impossible to win the game at that time, also the moment liquid decided not to ban IO at grand finale is the moment everybody know that liquid just gave up the aegis of champion.
yea wtf i was wondering why tf he wasnt saying anything at all. Whole video he keeps saying carries wanna take over the game.. come on man. trash tier vid
While what Nolan said this is a big part of why carry Io was so good at TI and Ana's Io being downright OP it also had a lot to do with OG's in your face hyper aggressive play style giving Ana the time and space he needed especially with the way Topson play's mid and his ability to create space for Ana paired with their knowledge and abuse of item/level timings. I highly doubt carry Io would have been anywhere near as good in slower paced games or slower meta.
The IO carry wins them the tournament. The strategy revolving it is so versatile that teams are forced to ban IO everytime they face OG. From the ban/pick phase, OG already has an advantage. What a team! I love OG.
In 2019 not only force opponents to ban IO but also force them to ban a large hero pool of Topson. And no team can ban completely Topson's hero pool. Its not count for Ana's hero pools too. Another factor is Newbee when they showed that Meepo can be used to counter carry IO, and OG in last game ban Meepo before pick IO.
Idk why u said that becasue they need bkb to fight and i saw that match eg was so under farm and he needs to farm so they can fight. If u saw that match u will see why eg does not want rtz to go base and defend because they cant fight. And if rtz he cant get gold they still cant fight and also have a higher percentage that they will fail. So plss shut up herald players
IO (Wisp) carry was born back in the days of Warcraft 3, Dota. The second ability of the wisp was called Overcharge. IO gained bonus attack speed and damage reduction, at the cost of draining a percentage of its current health and mana per second. He was an amazing carry back in the days. All u needed was some lifesteal. ;)
@@ammarfadhil184 the old, new meta. I've seen players carry with wisp like ana did before. This type of style playin was possible ever since the talents were introduced into dota. The special thing about OGs wisp, was the way they combine it with other heroes. And yes, ur right about the ags. But it's not something new!
Not exactly. If the hero's abilities and features prevent him from being a carry, you cannot make a carry from that hero. With the Overcharge ability, IO is a hero with carry potential. The best example of this is Dazzle. There was no concept called carry Dazzle in the past. Because his abilities and skill tree were not suitable for this. At the same time CM. He didn't have a feature that gave +200 attack speed in the past. Icefrog now gives many support heroes the opportunity to be a carry. Another example is AA's new aghanim. The list goes on and on.
I think ana's "break" isn't from playing dota, but from playing professionally. playing with friends in a casual setting is always a welcome change from the toxic and stressful reality of competitive gaming. As many commenters said, ana is simply "training" in some obscure pubs LOL
god 3:37 to 3:56 kind of made me tear up. those are the kind of friends everyone needs in their life. not just from this game POV but in general these types of people are the ones that will be by your side no matter what bump in the road comes up. truly amazing to see. im no dota player but i can see why OG was so dominate.
Well recently og gave birth a new meta Where 3 cores are working together The surge of ceb To topsons And boost movementspeed of midone's io this guys are just fantastic
This literally ended PPD’s career. OG pulled out IO first vs. them in groups, and His team gave up, disbanded, and PPD quit. Peter mentions it in a podcast
The real reason why Io carry was so strong was because of its early power spike with the slow on spirits + lv 15 damage talent on spirits + aghs which lets io have a permanent supply of spirits. Sure the level 25 talent was strong, but those clips happened after OG turned around the game in the mid-game with the Io power spike. This is also why Valve nerfed Io so hard after TI, moving the spirits damage talent from lv 15 to lv 20 and moving spirits' innate on-hit slow into a talent and then eventually removing the slow altogether. Basically, once Io gets lv15 and aghs, he becomes a huge source of damage and slow that is too hard to counter early game, making it super easy to just snowball. As long as OG can create enough space for ana to get there in time, they had a good chance at winning.
Esentially the idea of Io carry was possible because the game changed the components of dominator(gloves of haste added to it), benefitting io with the theter neutral creep dominated and the change of the aganimh scepter to Io with the spirits unlimited was so powerful to that hero plus gyro + Io line up or bristleback fits very well.
I mean, core wisp was there for a while, the only thing that suprized me was that after the nerf of spirits it seamed that core io was dead but it turned out it was not. I'm to scared to think how strong it actually was when they just added the aghanim lol.
They are just so good playing with each other that no matter who's hero they are playing, its automatically a meta. Topson playing Tiny like nobody can get alone it the jungle. Then he gets to play Pugna, (i mean Pugna right?) and noone as in noone can get to stay long in his lane.. Thrn Jerax played Tiny as a support.. Ana as usual the killing God and the Team Capt NOtail does the overall planning and execution with ceb balancing the rotation.. Their simply unbeatable..
Yeah, they did not create the Io carry it was already being used from time to time in pubs with the armlet build. They didn't even create the dominator build, it was Erick Wright, the dude that made the series "The only way to play". In fact there's a lot of "silly" builds that eventually made the pro scene, like necro with blademail and qop 4, also with blademail. Dude deserves way more credit, it's so sad that he retired from his yt channel.
Too much script, So little explanation. I'm expecting and explanation why IO a good carry, but all i heard was more of a narrative that IO is good if not the best carry
because in fact its not that strong, it's doable and this guys also wants fun. Notail as a captain is just godlike, he wants his teammates to play what they like and feel good playing (topson weirds pick, ana io ) but he also builds a real strategy around those picks.
@@lbntapash7947 What do you mean it's not that strong? mention another hero that has 155-775 damage per second with zero mana or health cost, has initiation, escape and is durable. Alright, now here's the real explanation from a theoretical standpoint. Io carry hit power spike at level 15 and have aghs back then, why? because you have 80% slow and 155 damage on 360 radius aoe per second (it was actually every 0.8 second, the tooltip is not accurate, but free game no bitching). Let's put that into perspective, at level 15, most heroes are at, say, 1800 hp if they're doing well, magic resist is around 25%, this means io only need about 15 seconds to kill most heroes, even if they regen, it probably only adds 2-3 seconds, and that's just from spirit damage. And don't forget that 360 radius is actually quite big, it's really easy to hit 2-3 heroes at the same time. Also, consider damage/mana cost of a skill, this was also the reason why CM was a good support in 7.18, her crystal nova was a 1.3/1, which in a dual lane should always be a 2.6/1. Now imagine a 155/0 skill that also CC your enemies to ensure the constant 155/0 to hit until they die. Now, just like CM, she could hit 2 people in a dual lane right? You know where this is going, in a fight against 2 heroes, the skill becomes a 310/0 dps, against 3 heroes it becomes a 465/0 dps and so on, which is crazy good. Of course this is all assuming you're a good player that can hit multiple units in a single explosion, but I'd imagine a TI champion is a good player. Now, this is all just about damage, you can't deal damage if you're dead. But luckily, Io is durable and have an escape mechanism in the form of tether and relocate. Okay, what about initiation, also tether and relocate. So, io was just a support before the aghs update because it was lacking in terms of damage, the aghs give it an infinite amount of damage which solves that problem. Basically, Io carry was good because when you hit level 15 and have aghs, you become an infinite source of damage that also CC your enemies to ensure that infinite amount of damage hits until it kills your enemies. Oh, you also have initiation, escape and durability.
@@thebluestyx your explanation was perfect forthe damage part. I would add a few things to this. Io has an excellent interaction with Helm of the Dominator. Using a dominator creep with no boots to rapidly farm jungle to keep up with another freefarming carry was incredibly innovative and wasn't widely utilized at all. The next thing people don't lend enough credit to is the factthat the damage is happening even if you crowd control Io. So there isn't a good way to deal with the hero in fights unless you can instantly kill it. And that's where the team comps featured chen, sd, and other saving heroes or heros that cannot be ingored for too long (bristle, tiny, wr). The final thing ill bring up is the ultimate. Creative use of the ulti was seen, but it's power is that it can act like a better Spec ult in quite a few cases. He can join fights as soon as he is 6 and when he survives he is right back to his farming position. He can save people in fights going bad. He can buy back and get right back into the fight for a reasonable duration. Io was a better Spec in a lot of ways. Because it lends itself way more to teamwork and utility and much earlier than spec with more range and better CC. The only thing was the mitigation, which didnt matter much because the range, CC and damage was way way higher than spec way earlier in the game. Now it is gone. But the fact that they innovated this at the biggest tourney in their sport is miraculous. And it is genuinely one of the most incredible innovations I have seen in any sport.
@@thebluestyx would have been balance if they remove that slow, that ball slow is so fucking frustrating, any one who got caught on that ball can't get out. That balls cant be countered because its so cheap
@@Forkinpikey yup, you cant blow it up, also its good with other supports, you need to ban 2 heroes against him thus making ur draft so open with adjustments. If they ban omni, they can pick abba, if they ban both, they can switch it up.
faxxxxx. i got fukd by carry io a long time ago. and this guy didnt xplain anything useful at all. he did not mention io with heart just io with aghs. lmfaoooo
interestingly io carry had been a thing in Australia for a year and a half before ti9, this guy boon I think his name is played it on all roles and showed ana a few months before the ti.
Back in Dota 1, where IO can even win 1 vs 1 with Troll. IO item build was Power Thread, Butterfly, Satanic, Bloodstone, Linken and Cuirass. Anyone who dare stands against IO with these items, is pretty much dead.
That’s what separates notail from kuroky. Notail always believes in his team and let them be creative whilst kuroky will limits team members role and kick them out.
good job bruv! yup dat Og brother love you can see it man I dont think we will see a team like that for a while, I mean topson was out of no where, OG have an edge now as a team but that got a hard climb ahead to get that triple TI champ
io carry wasn't a brand new never before seen concept, it's the aghs talent at level 15 that made the hero broken and god tier and just so happened to line up with the timing of the international...
We are all Gods in our own way, like that Herald player you flamed last night? Yeah he's just an Engineer Major almost finishing his degree, and that Archon? Well he's just a Sous Chef at your local Chinese restaurant, we are all Gods.
In dota1 when IO is released, IO is a core hero totally.. Its just happened that in Dota2, hero metas are shifted.. For ex., heroes that didnt use commonly in Dota1, gets the high meta on Dota2.. Same as how IO became a core to support and back to core now bcos of Ana gameplay
vincent torres its like how they use BH and Riki as support in dota 2 when they dominate as core in dota 1. Guardian Wisp also plays Io as core all the time.
Ana is right though, The whole OG team are gods of dota. Ana won't be able to go god mode if it wasn't for Topson's midlane(and sometimes the whole map) extreme pressure, Ceb makes Ana comfortable knowing that ceb has his back and would go front if needed like the Axe game he had during ti8, The crazy and creative plays Jerax does and Notail's decision making and sacrifices ingame. It doesn't matter how much of a great player you are if your team doesn't know and understand how you play. Just look at other teams who are filled with all star players, people thought they're OP but nope, cos they don't have the synchronization like OG has. Unpredictable, Crazy and Fun Dota is what OG does. OG fucking DOTA boys!
I remember when dota2 first released and i play jugg with diffusal build and my team say "wtf Jugg Diffusal?". They didn't know that it can debuff ghost scepter at that time coz people buy ghost scepter or euls to counter juggs Omnislash. But later on after a few years they build what i build that day. I was just experimenting builds that time when people call me stupid. How ironic.🤭 But im glad they build it, up until now.👍
Ahh yes the ana io the moment when i bet 2 arcana and 1 immortal and didn’t expect that ana will io I thought I lose bet that moment and start regretting.
Been playing dota for more than 20years this is not surprising to me and that’s the beauty of this game because no matter what hero you use you can always go with the role that you want that’s why palyers like ana and topson shine in a game like this if you want to turn PA or Centaur as supports then why the F not and that’s why this game will always be the standard of all moba games
Anything is possible is dota. Support heroes being used as carry are prevalent during dota 1. They just introduced the roles to make it more understandable to new players.
It actually made more people misunderstand the game. People can't differentiate PoS from Role. They also label heroes with roles/pos which don't really make much sense. Power Spike and Counters changes Roles mid game. Pos also changes based on the power spike of every heroes.
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2:22 How concept of Io the carry idea was created...
3:20 Why team OG decided to believe in ANA Io carry line up
4:15 ANA gives love back to team for letting him shine.
6:00 Casters are shocked #BSJ, #Grant #Kyle...
7:35 Fountain diving with Io
8:00 What it means to be a Carry or Position 1 player with Io
9:45 PSG.LGD bans Io every time in UPPER BRACKET FINALS
10:30-12:38 lvl 25 io carry explained and clip of fighting backdoor protection
14:00 My final thoughts.
-I hope you guys enjoyed, Subscribe if you wish and welcome to the Family! We got more content on the way. Stay tuned
Much love to all.
Cool
xD strat to increase video length xD good good
I thought team Na’Vi first introduced IO carry (yes I know they didn’t win with it that’s not the point)
juan A. P. Motta couldn’t read?
Okay, I made a comment about this as well but I'm putting it here as a reply so the author or more people can see this. Eric Wright pioneered carry Helm Io two years ago.
I tried io carry in 3k its a good pick. Now im currently playing with my 2k friends.
waiting for you in 1k
AHAAHAHAHA
Yes now try riki meteor hammer
Haha same. It took me almost 1 year to climb from 2k to 3k but it took me only 3 weeks to get back to 2k from 3k
🤣
Oh buddy, i was expecting some more analysing staff than merely a single game versus NIP, you seem to repeating all the time...
Literally every Dota players: Let's just follow the current meta
OG: Look at us. We're the meta now
OG: Hey, Meta, look at me.
*Meta Looks.
OG: Bitch.
"you still can win in the most weird ways, well that is Dota"
-Notail
Everything can works 🥳
Just like the fountain hook of dendi in TI1
I don't play DotA2 (I played DotA years ago). I watched TI because I enjoyed the OG story from last year. I wanted to see an explanation as to why Io carry was so surprising and the mechanics behind what made it so impressive.
All you kept repeating is saying it's dangerous, Ana is amazing and everyone being surprised by the pick. You don't actually explain anything. If you did, I skipped over it because you just kept rambling about nothing.
Next time you make a video, try making a plan about what you're trying to explain rather than figuring out ways to make the video last longer than 10 minutes. Talk about mechanics, synergies, calculations, power spikes, specific impressive plays, etc. This was awful.
The reason the strategy was so successful was because a lot of changes had been made to the hero in a couple different patches that eventually made this strategy viable. Those changes were his talents (lvl 10 spirits slow and lvl 15 2x spirit damage). Then right before TI9 they added an scepter upgrade to io that made spirits spawn passively every second around him instead of being an active with a cooldown. Basically even tho io doesn’t out farm other carries all needed was lvl 15 plus scepter then he could win fights against enemies carries even if they had a higher net worth than him. I think that’s the reason the hero was broken and amazing job by Ana to discover this as most players would never even try a start like that especially at TI.
I agree
If you still wondering, IO is mostly pure support hero that depend on other hero to be useful, but ana decided to play it as a carry role that didn't depend on other hero with lvl 10 and lvl 15 talent plus aghanim sceptre, at that point IO was dangerous enough but not many can achieve that lvl 15 + agh in short time like ana did, if IO farmed too long the enemy carry would become too hard to handle because the lack of pos 1 hero in ur team at early to mid game, that's why ana IO is considerably scary he lost 0 IO game at TI9 and he have total point of 48-8 in his recent game as IO, and what more terrifying is when he reach lvl 25 like we see in video it just impossible to win the game at that time, also the moment liquid decided not to ban IO at grand finale is the moment everybody know that liquid just gave up the aegis of champion.
yea wtf i was wondering why tf he wasnt saying anything at all. Whole video he keeps saying carries wanna take over the game.. come on man. trash tier vid
While what Nolan said this is a big part of why carry Io was so good at TI and Ana's Io being downright OP it also had a lot to do with OG's in your face hyper aggressive play style giving Ana the time and space he needed especially with the way Topson play's mid and his ability to create space for Ana paired with their knowledge and abuse of item/level timings. I highly doubt carry Io would have been anywhere near as good in slower paced games or slower meta.
The IO carry wins them the tournament. The strategy revolving it is so versatile that teams are forced to ban IO everytime they face OG. From the ban/pick phase, OG already has an advantage. What a team! I love OG.
OG was by far the best team 2019 and nobody could even come close to them, even without IO. every player was the best at its position.
they would have won anyway, they were so superior to any team that year it was a joke.
In 2019 not only force opponents to ban IO but also force them to ban a large hero pool of Topson. And no team can ban completely Topson's hero pool. Its not count for Ana's hero pools too. Another factor is Newbee when they showed that Meepo can be used to counter carry IO, and OG in last game ban Meepo before pick IO.
The Io/Windranger combo is the living embodiment of "Lakad Mataaaaaaag!!! Normalin. Normalin."
Just like alche and io at dota wtf
@@lefkowiczcnale9757 is alch chen dude thats og signature that rekt LGD
RIP DUNNNOOO
the only reason ana didnt play more io in the final is bcuz liquid bans it every game
Lol game 4
Thanks I did not know it was banner at all totally thanks
They missed one..
Nah dude not liquid i think u mean lgd..
@@christinemielkiel3080 First 3 games, Liquid banned IO.
Liquid at the 4th game decided not to ban IO
After various stressful Poker Games, Ana decided to relax himself by winning TI
but the real question is.. is rtz still farming for his bkb?
He will be done farming when TI10 begins
Hahah
no he rage quited because creep gold got nerfed
Nope he is not farming but he is stuck on a cliff😂.
Idk why u said that becasue they need bkb to fight and i saw that match eg was so under farm and he needs to farm so they can fight. If u saw that match u will see why eg does not want rtz to go base and defend because they cant fight. And if rtz he cant get gold they still cant fight and also have a higher percentage that they will fail. So plss shut up herald players
IO (Wisp) carry was born back in the days of Warcraft 3, Dota. The second ability of the wisp was called Overcharge. IO gained bonus attack speed and damage reduction, at the cost of draining a percentage of its current health and mana per second. He was an amazing carry back in the days. All u needed was some lifesteal. ;)
so, this is not new?
isnt over charge the 3rd skill and not the 2nd, i still remember the 2nd skill was orb
old wisp carry is more focusing with right click not the balls ,its something different and new bcs the new wisp aghs
@@KoufalKoufax you might be right ;)
@@ammarfadhil184 the old, new meta. I've seen players carry with wisp like ana did before. This type of style playin was possible ever since the talents were introduced into dota. The special thing about OGs wisp, was the way they combine it with other heroes. And yes, ur right about the ags. But it's not something new!
This proves that any hero can be played with different playstyles, it depends on the team and strategy on how you can play. Change is constant.
Not exactly. If the hero's abilities and features prevent him from being a carry, you cannot make a carry from that hero. With the Overcharge ability, IO is a hero with carry potential.
The best example of this is Dazzle. There was no concept called carry Dazzle in the past. Because his abilities and skill tree were not suitable for this. At the same time CM. He didn't have a feature that gave +200 attack speed in the past. Icefrog now gives many support heroes the opportunity to be a carry. Another example is AA's new aghanim. The list goes on and on.
OG is the true representation of how Dota is supposed to be!
I think ana's "break" isn't from playing dota, but from playing professionally. playing with friends in a casual setting is always a welcome change from the toxic and stressful reality of competitive gaming.
As many commenters said, ana is simply "training" in some obscure pubs LOL
no, i think og is sending ana to train inside the hyperbolic time chamber everytime he's on a break
Desiderio Luna loom
If the rumor is true, ana is playing on a slightly high ping too, so his reactions are inhunan in lan games. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@@ChiriConCarne he's smurfing on SEA region?
Omg, intense training confirmed.
@@mirrorm00n sometimes .. he got 186 kills in the fountain when they trashtalkl him fake account and then realised he is the true ana. hahahhaha
god 3:37 to 3:56 kind of made me tear up. those are the kind of friends everyone needs in their life. not just from this game POV but in general these types of people are the ones that will be by your side no matter what bump in the road comes up. truly amazing to see. im no dota player but i can see why OG was so dominate.
Back in Dota 1 days in SEA all heroes are CARRY.
Hahaha
I remember dota 1 all heroes have bottles and no one uses wards 😂
This just proves that every hero can work it depends on the team gameplay and IO became a carry and won TI
Before TI8, io carry already exist in sea server where anything can work
anything can work in sea server
Yea true cm carry with deso 😂
Pinoy ia the best
funny thing is we already saw it in EU at 4k mmr, but it was pos2 IO. Same strat kinda, get dominator, ags and stick to your pos1 or 3 after.
its a 3k mmr strat .. Ana embraced cancer and cancer embraced Ana 😂
Well recently og gave birth a new meta
Where 3 cores are working together
The surge of ceb
To topsons
And boost movementspeed of midone's io
this guys are just fantastic
The fact that Kuro left IO open in TI9 Finals Game 4 blows my mind..
He got outdrafted by N0tail at every turn that series..
Kuro is a complete idiot when it comes to drafting
Dude I love your channel... Kepp making great vids thank you..
So you mean you love eating trash?
15 minutes long but i think you can say them in 3 minutes. Please proof reading your script
Its for the multiple ads dude 😂
If you can't say something in one sentence it's probably not very important.
agreed. script was too redundant.
Content bro
all of his content are like that. He's a 15 year old, can't expect much
conclusion: never under estimated 3k player strait
This literally ended PPD’s career. OG pulled out IO first vs. them in groups, and His team gave up, disbanded, and PPD quit. Peter mentions it in a podcast
That introduction of yours makes this video so epic to watch.
“We should have banned IO...” Team Liquid, 2019.
Og basically memed their way through ti9 championship
The real reason why Io carry was so strong was because of its early power spike with the slow on spirits + lv 15 damage talent on spirits + aghs which lets io have a permanent supply of spirits. Sure the level 25 talent was strong, but those clips happened after OG turned around the game in the mid-game with the Io power spike. This is also why Valve nerfed Io so hard after TI, moving the spirits damage talent from lv 15 to lv 20 and moving spirits' innate on-hit slow into a talent and then eventually removing the slow altogether. Basically, once Io gets lv15 and aghs, he becomes a huge source of damage and slow that is too hard to counter early game, making it super easy to just snowball. As long as OG can create enough space for ana to get there in time, they had a good chance at winning.
Saying we have never seen the supporter shifting roles is incorrect.
Dendi played IO Mid in the 2013 International
To be fair Dendi can play whichever hero he wants mid and still do a damn great job...
Your narration repetition is stronger than history channel's :)
tell me about it.
Esentially the idea of Io carry was possible because the game changed the components of dominator(gloves of haste added to it), benefitting io with the theter neutral creep dominated and the change of the aganimh scepter to Io with the spirits unlimited was so powerful to that hero plus gyro + Io line up or bristleback fits very well.
I mean, core wisp was there for a while, the only thing that suprized me was that after the nerf of spirits it seamed that core io was dead but it turned out it was not. I'm to scared to think how strong it actually was when they just added the aghanim lol.
They are just so good playing with each other that no matter who's hero they are playing, its automatically a meta. Topson playing Tiny like nobody can get alone it the jungle. Then he gets to play Pugna, (i mean Pugna right?) and noone as in noone can get to stay long in his lane.. Thrn Jerax played Tiny as a support.. Ana as usual the killing God and the Team Capt NOtail does the overall planning and execution with ceb balancing the rotation.. Their simply unbeatable..
13:45 can you give me the name of the music, pls ☺️
Sleep by Echo river ft. Sleep safari
@@guerreropaulivan1873 tks bro
14:07 How Notail sincerely bows to Chinese players despite bowing not being a part of their culture at all.
It is a part of the Chinese culture, I remember bowing to my teachers in primary school when I was a kid.
It is also common within swedish sport culture that you bow with the handshake after a game. Not that weird if he got taught to do it as a kid.
Slark is solo carry
Io is team carry
I mean the team itself is become carry when u pick io with ur true trusted friends
Lhagva Suren I wish this comment gets more attention
Wise words
Its just broken, stoo tryna sound deep lol
@@booklett1 well he was right though. Io is a team carry
@@gameismyhobby whats a team carry mean?
he's back and ready to get another part time job 😌
Lmao hahaha you are right which after 1 week in his part time job, he might earned money most of us will not earn in our Lifetime
overhyping ana again? LOL he performed better because they were the ones who are making the meta but now ?? pfft times changed my friend
Ana is best player.
@@rielleling570 pfft! Hater!
Yeah, they did not create the Io carry it was already being used from time to time in pubs with the armlet build. They didn't even create the dominator build, it was Erick Wright, the dude that made the series "The only way to play".
In fact there's a lot of "silly" builds that eventually made the pro scene, like necro with blademail and qop 4, also with blademail. Dude deserves way more credit, it's so sad that he retired from his yt channel.
Too much script, So little explanation. I'm expecting and explanation why IO a good carry, but all i heard was more of a narrative that IO is good if not the best carry
because in fact its not that strong, it's doable and this guys also wants fun. Notail as a captain is just godlike, he wants his teammates to play what they like and feel good playing (topson weirds pick, ana io ) but he also builds a real strategy around those picks.
@@lbntapash7947 What do you mean it's not that strong? mention another hero that has 155-775 damage per second with zero mana or health cost, has initiation, escape and is durable.
Alright, now here's the real explanation from a theoretical standpoint.
Io carry hit power spike at level 15 and have aghs back then, why? because you have 80% slow and 155 damage on 360 radius aoe per second (it was actually every 0.8 second, the tooltip is not accurate, but free game no bitching). Let's put that into perspective, at level 15, most heroes are at, say, 1800 hp if they're doing well, magic resist is around 25%, this means io only need about 15 seconds to kill most heroes, even if they regen, it probably only adds 2-3 seconds, and that's just from spirit damage. And don't forget that 360 radius is actually quite big, it's really easy to hit 2-3 heroes at the same time.
Also, consider damage/mana cost of a skill, this was also the reason why CM was a good support in 7.18, her crystal nova was a 1.3/1, which in a dual lane should always be a 2.6/1. Now imagine a 155/0 skill that also CC your enemies to ensure the constant 155/0 to hit until they die. Now, just like CM, she could hit 2 people in a dual lane right? You know where this is going, in a fight against 2 heroes, the skill becomes a 310/0 dps, against 3 heroes it becomes a 465/0 dps and so on, which is crazy good. Of course this is all assuming you're a good player that can hit multiple units in a single explosion, but I'd imagine a TI champion is a good player.
Now, this is all just about damage, you can't deal damage if you're dead. But luckily, Io is durable and have an escape mechanism in the form of tether and relocate. Okay, what about initiation, also tether and relocate. So, io was just a support before the aghs update because it was lacking in terms of damage, the aghs give it an infinite amount of damage which solves that problem.
Basically, Io carry was good because when you hit level 15 and have aghs, you become an infinite source of damage that also CC your enemies to ensure that infinite amount of damage hits until it kills your enemies. Oh, you also have initiation, escape and durability.
@@thebluestyx your explanation was perfect forthe damage part. I would add a few things to this.
Io has an excellent interaction with Helm of the Dominator. Using a dominator creep with no boots to rapidly farm jungle to keep up with another freefarming carry was incredibly innovative and wasn't widely utilized at all.
The next thing people don't lend enough credit to is the factthat the damage is happening even if you crowd control Io. So there isn't a good way to deal with the hero in fights unless you can instantly kill it. And that's where the team comps featured chen, sd, and other saving heroes or heros that cannot be ingored for too long (bristle, tiny, wr).
The final thing ill bring up is the ultimate. Creative use of the ulti was seen, but it's power is that it can act like a better Spec ult in quite a few cases. He can join fights as soon as he is 6 and when he survives he is right back to his farming position. He can save people in fights going bad. He can buy back and get right back into the fight for a reasonable duration.
Io was a better Spec in a lot of ways. Because it lends itself way more to teamwork and utility and much earlier than spec with more range and better CC. The only thing was the mitigation, which didnt matter much because the range, CC and damage was way way higher than spec way earlier in the game.
Now it is gone. But the fact that they innovated this at the biggest tourney in their sport is miraculous. And it is genuinely one of the most incredible innovations I have seen in any sport.
@@thebluestyx would have been balance if they remove that slow, that ball slow is so fucking frustrating, any one who got caught on that ball can't get out. That balls cant be countered because its so cheap
@@Forkinpikey yup, you cant blow it up, also its good with other supports, you need to ban 2 heroes against him thus making ur draft so open with adjustments. If they ban omni, they can pick abba, if they ban both, they can switch it up.
Probably the only time we will ever witness a team breaking DOTA2 in a Ti
Fun fact : Ana plays with his 3k friends in the Sea server
Not Australia server?
Ana : God of dota
Dendi : legend of dota
That's what people say
Sumail: king of dota
ngl, this is the best channel when narrating the content. it doesnt sounds annoying
I guess you havent heard of the Guardian Wisp if you've never seen Io carry before.
Carry io has been around since dota 1
faxxxxx. i got fukd by carry io a long time ago. and this guy didnt xplain anything useful at all. he did not mention io with heart just io with aghs. lmfaoooo
your point? who does not know that io has been there since D1? weird comment
@@crimson6680 rewatch the video and reread my comment.. then delete yours so you don't embarrass yourself any further.
I try io with a heart of tarrasque and a neutral creep to kill rosh,
Surprisingly i set the creep as a tank, always regen so fast because of the heart
You shoudve told us about io's new/missed abilities or talents thst made him an ideal carry
You forget that lvl 15 talent, that is thing that make IO viable for midgame core
This is how pro does.. They Study, research every detail of Heroes manipulate it to their will..
2:15 This ladies and gentlemen, is the definition of a smurf LOL
this guy sounds like tinker lmao
Bruh😂
6:28 no, rtz and crit once swapped role (rtz phoenix crit clinx) but its not the same as using suport hero as carry
4:16 he definitely is a Humble God
interestingly io carry had been a thing in Australia for a year and a half before ti9, this guy boon I think his name is played it on all roles and showed ana a few months before the ti.
4:25 Humble Ana
Io Carry is an Asian Dota 1 joke. Ana just pulled an old joke and made it work under new context.
Agree
Good Old days when it's either you become so overpowered cause of IO, or you start teleporting allies to enemy fountain if you fail.
IO in dota 1 is OP. Cause the tether have stun.
Back in Dota 1, where IO can even win 1 vs 1 with Troll. IO item build was Power Thread, Butterfly, Satanic, Bloodstone, Linken and Cuirass. Anyone who dare stands against IO with these items, is pretty much dead.
agree
That’s what separates notail from kuroky. Notail always believes in his team and let them be creative whilst kuroky will limits team members role and kick them out.
I mean ana is a genius player, even kuroky in the same position as notail would had the same choice
Kuro treats Miracle the same way, and that’s the problem. He only has special treatment for miracle whilst notail treats everyone the same.
Bro awesome content!
good job bruv! yup dat Og brother love you can see it man I dont think we will see a team like that for a while, I mean topson was out of no where, OG have an edge now as a team but that got a hard climb ahead to get that triple TI champ
OG also had a habit of switching heroes. You can try to draft against a lane line up then they give a hero a different role
I tried that in 3k ,u know what happened...
ROFL!
You dominate 3k pool?
U know whats cooking..BOOM!
Did u win ti at 3k sir? Lol
@@kevinpuyos4702 w
What is the backgroud music use in 12:30
dude love the content but the background music is just too loud....
io carry wasn't a brand new never before seen concept, it's the aghs talent at level 15 that made the hero broken and god tier and just so happened to line up with the timing of the international...
When you are at 2k and 3k u can see I carry io.
Saying that IO never shifted roles is a mistake. Dendi used IO mid in Game 3 vs Alliance in the Ti3 grand final
Oh boi, you don't see what SEA server is capable of. Not only IO. BUT ALMOST EVERY HERO
before ana was playing i.o carry wisper plays wisp was the first one to play u can check hes video in youtube 4k i.o games.. hard carry.
its just sad that we will never see IO carry in TI again.. only ana can pull this off..
Nice video . Really great .
Something Ame and Yatoro would never do in their carreer, INNOVATE!
We are all Gods in our own way, like that Herald player you flamed last night? Yeah he's just an Engineer Major almost finishing his degree, and that Archon? Well he's just a Sous Chef at your local Chinese restaurant, we are all Gods.
what's the name of the song that start at 0:22 please ? anyone ?
In dota1 when IO is released,
IO is a core hero totally..
Its just happened that in Dota2, hero metas are shifted..
For ex., heroes that didnt use commonly in Dota1, gets the high meta on Dota2..
Same as how IO became a core to support and back to core now bcos of Ana gameplay
vincent torres its like how they use BH and Riki as support in dota 2 when they dominate as core in dota 1.
Guardian Wisp also plays Io as core all the time.
Up to this day , professional dota 2 teams are still doing this io carry strat
if in TI Finals, OG vs Team Spirit which team are you rooting for?
remember 100% win rate in ti3 grand finals.
can you provide the link for interview video where ana was called god!
man you are a good narrator keep it up! im looking forward for more content like this
Next ti: Techies initiator, Chen carry, tinker support.
Tbh I could totally see OG using a tinker...
Noob dog
You are wrong about pos 1 playing support as core for first time. I remember Miracle playing Lion mid, even Topson playing earth spirit mid this TI.
yes but Lion has disable + burst damage compared to IO though. thats why Lion can be carry.
The Legend will be missed !!😩😩😩😩🥺🥺 OG OG OG OG OG
SEA server gives BIRTH to IO CARRY!
Quality content.
Ana is right though, The whole OG team are gods of dota. Ana won't be able to go god mode if it wasn't for Topson's midlane(and sometimes the whole map) extreme pressure, Ceb makes Ana comfortable knowing that ceb has his back and would go front if needed like the Axe game he had during ti8, The crazy and creative plays Jerax does and Notail's decision making and sacrifices ingame.
It doesn't matter how much of a great player you are if your team doesn't know and understand how you play. Just look at other teams who are filled with all star players, people thought they're OP but nope, cos they don't have the synchronization like OG has.
Unpredictable, Crazy and Fun Dota is what OG does. OG fucking DOTA boys!
Ti 2 : Tiny carry, Io support
Ti 9 : Io carry, Tiny support
I remember when dota2 first released and i play jugg with diffusal build and my team say "wtf Jugg Diffusal?". They didn't know that it can debuff ghost scepter at that time coz people buy ghost scepter or euls to counter juggs Omnislash. But later on after a few years they build what i build that day. I was just experimenting builds that time when people call me stupid. How ironic.🤭 But im glad they build it, up until now.👍
it does almost force an io ban because jerax and ana both play and OG can legit draft to play it on both positions
Ahh yes the ana io the moment when i bet 2 arcana and 1 immortal and didn’t expect that ana will io I thought I lose bet that moment and start regretting.
Been playing dota for more than 20years this is not surprising to me and that’s the beauty of this game because no matter what hero you use you can always go with the role that you want that’s why palyers like ana and topson shine in a game like this if you want to turn PA or Centaur as supports then why the F not and that’s why this game will always be the standard of all moba games
I just meet IO like Ana today, OMG that IO like magic, suddenly kill my hero without touch my Hero.
That was me haha ive been playin IO lately
@@yany8323 shut up dog
Strongest team all time TI9 OG ❤🎉
we will miss you ana :))
Everything/Every hero can work the teamwork matters the most
Ti9 final game 4
Karoky " sudnt have given the fcking Io"
as a 3k player roles don't matter here in the trench, i've seen mid buy all the wards, pos 5 jungling etc.
Anything is possible is dota. Support heroes being used as carry are prevalent during dota 1.
They just introduced the roles to make it more understandable to new players.
It actually made more people misunderstand the game. People can't differentiate PoS from Role.
They also label heroes with roles/pos which don't really make much sense.
Power Spike and Counters changes Roles mid game. Pos also changes based on the power spike of every heroes.
As a notail said "everything can works".
No, he said "everything can work".
You forgot that Dendi played Io mid in a TI final.
But dnt have so much impact like ana play io
Sometimes, SEA/AUS 3KMMR is too batshit insane that wonderful things work out.