I’ve been using a Teflon baking sheet to coat papers in gloss medium. They peel right off, and you can put it in the oven on a low temp to quickly dry them. Same as the Ranger no stick craft mat, but much cheaper.
Oh my goodness, wonderful demonstration. You have just saved me days, maybe weeks of experimentation, and probably lots of money, as well. Thank you so much. I really enjoy your teaching manner.
I can't find wall art rice paper in the USA. I can recommend another paper that goes transparent quite well with gloss medium; medical exam paper. It's the stuff they cover the table with before you lie on it. It is inexpensive too!
Hi Sally, I've found some medical exam headrest paper, in the UK, that seems to be working quite well. It's from Sissel's UK. Obviously it's not large sheets as it's headrest size, but I just thought I'd let you know. It's not textured either. Great video by the way, thank you 😊
Hi Sally, super useful video. Woukd you typically coat your collage papers with gloss medium prio to use and let dry before collaging with more medium? I'm doing this with regular acid free tissue as otherwise it tears when wet. I'm going to try some of the papers you suggest. But I have a ton of acid free tissue!
Yes it's a great way to strengthen your tissues . If you do gel printing you can roll out gloss medium , lay tissues, brush or spread on more medium and leave it to dry.
@@sallyhirst3358 thanks for your reply. I use an etching press rather than a gel plate to print but I'm trialing coating them with gloss medium on a plastic bag to both strengthen and make more transparent.
Hi Sally. Thanks for your great videos😊🥀 Unfortunately it turns out that I get really sick from using the acrylic mediums. I wonder if you know of an alternative glue that will make the tissue paper transparent/translucent when glued down? Best, Nina
The artist Jacki Bernardi recently did an experiment with papers just like this but also had physician's paper in the experiment. She found it becomes transparent when you wet it with water before laying it down on gloss medium and then covering it with gloss medium. You can later go over it with mat medium to stop the shine.
I can't believe your delicate papers didn't tear with the pulling from the plate. I frequently use thin Japanese papers for gel printing using acrylic paints and so many of them tear even with a pretty immediate lift. If the paint dries even a little bit, it's worse, and especially if I don't clean my plate between rapid pulls. I have tried spritzing the back of the paper with a fine water mist before a pull, and that makes it even worse for tearing. I have been trying to find the best glue for using these prints for collage onto canvas and panel and has been wondering if they would get blotch-stained using acrylic mediums and ruin the art. Thanks for making this video.
While they are wet, with water or paint they are very delicate and will tear. But if you coat them with medium and letbit dry thoroughly the medium gives them the strength? The glue you use for collage onto canvas or panel depends on how thick your paper is, thin papers are fine with gloss or matte medium, thicker papers need soft gel, very thick papers heavy gel. All of it I cover in my online course sallyhirst.co.uk/collage-creations/
Hi Sally. I have been following your videoes and got so much out of them🥀😊 Thank you for posting. Recently I discovered, that I have developed a great sesitivity to acrylic mediums and get really sick when using them. Do you know of any other glue/medium/substance that can make tissue paper transparent/see through so I can used it in collage making ibteresting layers? Kind regards Nina
Hi, so sorry to hear that. Unfortunately it would need to be something that did not 'leak' when you use it for collage and only acrylic polymer stays waterproof . I have explored embedding tissues in cold wax medium, the wax soaks in and provides translucency but the cold wax medium contains solvent and if you are sensitive to products that may be a problem. Have you tried different brands of gloss medium? It may be there is something in one you have used that isn't in the others. I know I had some cheap gesso once that smelt so strong I couldn't use it. When you say 'acrylic mediums' do you mean all of them? Some contain bleach, others like matte medium contain marble dust etc. It may be the additions you are sensitive too rather than the acrylic polymer.. Golden Gloss Medium and their GAC100 are pure polymer, nothing added. Failing that, explore adhesives used by conservationists, they tend to be inert for conservation reasons. I do mix my gloss medium with Methyl Cellulose paste for collage, that would work for this method too, it's using less gloss medium, as long as its 60% medium to 40% MC.. Methyl Cellulose is an inert product, don't use wallpaper paste it contains fungicide. If its the polymer that is the problem obviously there is acrylic polymers in tube paint so I would avoid those as well. What glue are you using for collage?
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324 Hi Sally. Thanks for your answer. 😊🥀 For collage I have been using Golden gloss medium (that seems to be the worst for me) but also their matte medium. I have been in contact with Golden and they confirm that there is a higher percentage of volatile organic compounds (VOC) in their mediums compaired to their . I have also tried Liquitex mat gel and Galeria mat medium. And I get headaches, nausea, dizziness and heavy breathing from all of them. I am pretty sure it is the high concentration of VOCs in the mediums I react to. I have been experimenting with wallpaper paste (the kind you buy and mix up yourself) and it glues down papers fine but does not make the tissue transparent. But I didn't react to that (do a potential fungicide in wall paper paste damage the paper/artwork?) I will also try methyl cellulose, but the one I got does not make a clear paste, rather a beige one. I am experimenting with homemade rice glue, but the rice flour I got from the supermarket here in Denmark was not fine enough, so it became somewhat gritty. It glued paper down ok, but didn't make the tissue transparent. I am using wet strength tissue paper by the way. I might have to get premixed Nori paste instead. I can still paint with acrylic paints as long as I don't do too long at a time. Maybe the solution of mixing the gloss or matte medium with methyl cellulose could make it workable for me. I will have to try it out. 🥀 Nina
Thank you very much for this video, Sally, it's really useful. There seem to be several Golden gloss mediums so please could you say which one you use, or would any of them work?
It's was a very good lesson about transparency. Learned a lot. Can you say what brand of gloss medium you use? The exact name because here where I live it's hardcto find products so I must order them online and it helps to have the exact name of the products. Thanks for those tips and the links in your site 😊
Thanks Sally really interesting to learn new techniques. Do you spritz with water the bottom of the paper on both sides or just one side, before placing it onto the gel plate?
hi. great video/ what kind of gloss medium would you recommend--is it golden gloss medium or gloss glazing....? could you potentially use matte medium and get the same effect?
The wrinkles will depend a lot on your paper too but I like Golden or Liquitex Matte medium. I often mix it with Methyl Cellulose, makes it slower drying so you can reposition and smooth out wrinkles. All on section 1..
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324 I'm confused now- your reply to stephaniek you say to coat and let the paper dry so they wont tear. Is this paper too fragile to use on a gel plate?
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324🤣That's funny ! I think the questioning person means " Butterbrotpapier", a kind of deli paper which is used to wrap around a sandwich for protection. It is used it in Germany.
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I’ve been using a Teflon baking sheet to coat papers in gloss medium. They peel right off, and you can put it in the oven on a low temp to quickly dry them. Same as the Ranger no stick craft mat, but much cheaper.
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This is super helpful! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Also enjoying the other comments and tips.
Very helpful to see how transparent the toddy and wall art papers were! Thank you for your demonstration.
Oh my goodness, wonderful demonstration. You have just saved me days, maybe weeks of experimentation, and probably lots of money, as well. Thank you so much. I really enjoy your teaching manner.
@@marijabu thank you!
Thanks as always Sally -- everything you share is immensely valuable -- never heard of Toddy paper but looks like it will be my new favorite too ❤
I had it shipped over from the states. Highly recommend. My pal Dar tried a cheaper alternative, it didn't work so only get the Toddy brand.
Really like the idea of making transparent art papers for my journal! Going to be trying this out, for sure. 💗
Thank you for this excellent tutorial. This type of content is SO valuable!❤
I can't find wall art rice paper in the USA. I can recommend another paper that goes transparent quite well with gloss medium; medical exam paper. It's the stuff they cover the table with before you lie on it. It is inexpensive too!
Thanks Sara, yes my friend MaryBeth has been using it. So far the UK ones I've found are textured? But I'll keep looking...
Hi Sally, I've found some medical exam headrest paper, in the UK, that seems to be working quite well. It's from Sissel's UK. Obviously it's not large sheets as it's headrest size, but I just thought I'd let you know. It's not textured either. Great video by the way, thank you 😊
This was very informative and helpful. Thanks for the demo and practical hints. It’s great to hear from an experienced artist.
P.S. Amazon now carries the Wet Strength Tissue in the USA.
Thanks! Joggles sells wst too..
So helpful, Sally. Thank you! I have been using mostly WST, but may try Toddy.
A font of help & knowledge..I’m currently working through your collage course which has surpassed my expectations…thank you Sally
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Hi Sally, super useful video. Woukd you typically coat your collage papers with gloss medium prio to use and let dry before collaging with more medium? I'm doing this with regular acid free tissue as otherwise it tears when wet. I'm going to try some of the papers you suggest. But I have a ton of acid free tissue!
Yes it's a great way to strengthen your tissues . If you do gel printing you can roll out gloss medium , lay tissues, brush or spread on more medium and leave it to dry.
@@sallyhirst3358 thanks for your reply. I use an etching press rather than a gel plate to print but I'm trialing coating them with gloss medium on a plastic bag to both strengthen and make more transparent.
Hi Sally. Thanks for your great videos😊🥀 Unfortunately it turns out that I get really sick from using the acrylic mediums. I wonder if you know of an alternative glue that will make the tissue paper transparent/translucent when glued down? Best, Nina
Really useful info & demo, thank you very much
Just discovered your video. Excellent tutorial.
Thank you for the very efficient tutorial and testing for us.
That’s really interesting to see. Thanks for demonstrating that.
The artist Jacki Bernardi recently did an experiment with papers just like this but also had physician's paper in the experiment. She found it becomes transparent when you wet it with water before laying it down on gloss medium and then covering it with gloss medium. You can later go over it with mat medium to stop the shine.
Yes my friend Mary Beth Shaw (aka StencilGirl) told me about that paper. The only one I've found in the UK has a texture... 🤔
I can't believe your delicate papers didn't tear with the pulling from the plate. I frequently use thin Japanese papers for gel printing using acrylic paints and so many of them tear even with a pretty immediate lift. If the paint dries even a little bit, it's worse, and especially if I don't clean my plate between rapid pulls. I have tried spritzing the back of the paper with a fine water mist before a pull, and that makes it even worse for tearing. I have been trying to find the best glue for using these prints for collage onto canvas and panel and has been wondering if they would get blotch-stained using acrylic mediums and ruin the art. Thanks for making this video.
While they are wet, with water or paint they are very delicate and will tear. But if you coat them with medium and letbit dry thoroughly the medium gives them the strength? The glue you use for collage onto canvas or panel depends on how thick your paper is, thin papers are fine with gloss or matte medium, thicker papers need soft gel, very thick papers heavy gel. All of it I cover in my online course sallyhirst.co.uk/collage-creations/
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324 Thank you so much. I will explore your channel some more to become familiar with your work.
Thanks Sally. I just checked out ArtWay. Did you use the Sheng (raw) or Shu (ripe) paper? The Shang is unsized and the Shu is slightly sized.
I used their pad of rice paper, haven't trued it yet but the raw will work better as its more absorbant
Just trying it.. its different, thicker, more like the Jacksons one on the video?
Hey Sally, this looks like the answer to my prayers! Just to check does it have to be gloss medium or can you use matt?
You can use matte but in thick layers it can be foggy, it's not 100% transparent. 😊
Great video! Good information. Thanks
Hi Sally. I have been following your videoes and got so much out of them🥀😊 Thank you for posting. Recently I discovered, that I have developed a great sesitivity to acrylic mediums and get really sick when using them. Do you know of any other glue/medium/substance that can make tissue paper transparent/see through so I can used it in collage making ibteresting layers? Kind regards Nina
Hi, so sorry to hear that. Unfortunately it would need to be something that did not 'leak' when you use it for collage and only acrylic polymer stays waterproof . I have explored embedding tissues in cold wax medium, the wax soaks in and provides translucency but the cold wax medium contains solvent and if you are sensitive to products that may be a problem. Have you tried different brands of gloss medium? It may be there is something in one you have used that isn't in the others. I know I had some cheap gesso once that smelt so strong I couldn't use it. When you say 'acrylic mediums' do you mean all of them? Some contain bleach, others like matte medium contain marble dust etc. It may be the additions you are sensitive too rather than the acrylic polymer.. Golden Gloss Medium and their GAC100 are pure polymer, nothing added.
Failing that, explore adhesives used by conservationists, they tend to be inert for conservation reasons.
I do mix my gloss medium with Methyl Cellulose paste for collage, that would work for this method too, it's using less gloss medium, as long as its 60% medium to 40% MC.. Methyl Cellulose is an inert product, don't use wallpaper paste it contains fungicide. If its the polymer that is the problem obviously there is acrylic polymers in tube paint so I would avoid those as well. What glue are you using for collage?
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324 Hi Sally. Thanks for your answer. 😊🥀 For collage I have been using Golden gloss medium (that seems to be the worst for me) but also their matte medium. I have been in contact with Golden and they confirm that there is a higher percentage of volatile organic compounds (VOC) in their mediums compaired to their . I have also tried Liquitex mat gel and Galeria mat medium. And I get headaches, nausea, dizziness and heavy breathing from all of them. I am pretty sure it is the high concentration of VOCs in the mediums I react to. I have been experimenting with wallpaper paste (the kind you buy and mix up yourself) and it glues down papers fine but does not make the tissue transparent. But I didn't react to that (do a potential fungicide in wall paper paste damage the paper/artwork?) I will also try methyl cellulose, but the one I got does not make a clear paste, rather a beige one. I am experimenting with homemade rice glue, but the rice flour I got from the supermarket here in Denmark was not fine enough, so it became somewhat gritty. It glued paper down ok, but didn't make the tissue transparent. I am using wet strength tissue paper by the way. I might have to get premixed Nori paste instead. I can still paint with acrylic paints as long as I don't do too long at a time. Maybe the solution of mixing the gloss or matte medium with methyl cellulose could make it workable for me. I will have to try it out. 🥀 Nina
Thank you very much for this video, Sally, it's really useful. There seem to be several Golden gloss mediums so please could you say which one you use, or would any of them work?
'Medium' is a generic tetm for an additive. Theres only one Golden gloss medium, the rest are gels so thicker?
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324 Thanks Sally.
Sally, does it matter if paper/tissue is non archival/acidic if it is sealed with mat medium? Great video.
Most papers are not made with tree/wood fibers so acid free?
It's was a very good lesson about transparency. Learned a lot. Can you say what brand of gloss medium you use? The exact name because here where I live it's hardcto find products so I must order them online and it helps to have the exact name of the products. Thanks for those tips and the links in your site 😊
Hi,Thanks! I use Golden ..
Thanks Sally really interesting to learn new techniques.
Do you spritz with water the bottom of the paper on both sides or just one side, before placing it onto the gel plate?
Thin papers only need one side
Why do you spritz the papers with water first?
I have found the toddy papers in eu to my surprise. Available in commercial sizes. Wet strength tissue paper = no chance anywhere.
Ooh send me the link for Toddy EU!
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324 I’ve sent you an email 👍🏼
@@FragilXI‘d love that link as well..🙏
Sally-excellent information thank you. If I understand correctly, you saturate the toddy paper with gloss medium before printing on the toddy paper?
hi. great video/ what kind of gloss medium would you recommend--is it golden gloss medium or gloss glazing....? could you potentially use matte medium and get the same effect?
Gloss medium. Glazing will take forever to dry and Matte medium is not transparent so will be foggy..
What is the best medium to glue collage pieces to substrate without wrinkles are any of these better than others?
The wrinkles will depend a lot on your paper too but I like Golden or Liquitex Matte medium. I often mix it with Methyl Cellulose, makes it slower drying so you can reposition and smooth out wrinkles.
All on section 1..
Hi Sally, what weight is that tea bag paper, is it the heavy? Thanks for a great video ❤
About 20gm.. x
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324 is that the heavy or light from Nimanoma?
@@FragilX the heavy...
Does it say "Cold Brew" on the package?
The Toddy?.yes..
Is there a significant difference between gloss and matte media for transparency?
I would like to know that too! Thanks.
Excelente! Grato.
That was very helpful thanks
Glad it helped
Thanks for sharing, one question: Do you aply the gloss medium before or after you paint on the paper?
After.... this is just to show transparency. If you do this before your paint or ink won't soak in!
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324 I'm confused now- your reply to stephaniek you say to coat and let the paper dry so they wont tear. Is this paper too fragile to use on a gel plate?
@msauve-rodd9384 no it's perfect for a gel plate. But the gloss medium makes it even stronger.
I wonder if parchment paper would work
Any paper that is thin AND absorbent will work. I'm not sure parchment paper is absorbent... but try! ☺
Thanks for the tutorial
Terrific !
Can you use tracing paper for this?
No.. it wrinkles too much.
Butter paper will do?
Sorry no idea what that is? If it has butter on it then no, ot will resist the polymer
@@sallyhirstartisttutor6324🤣That's funny ! I think the questioning person means " Butterbrotpapier", a kind of deli paper which is used to wrap around a sandwich for protection. It is used it in Germany.
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