I half agree? It isn't as bad as Doug made out "everyone" claiming it was (in the actual review - still watching at the video). I think it is a bit better than what the general consensus says, but the just makes it a _mediocre_ film, not even "okay". I didn't lose interest in watching from boredom, but from dread of "the cringe". XP The film didn't tackle some weighty topics, it bumped into them. ;) The good scenes _are_ good, but *not* "great" the way Doug was trying to make them out to be; the bridge - for example - struck me as _silly_ because I wasn't overwhelmed so I had time to think about it. XD Kelsey Grammer is great as Beast until he loses the suit and tie. Juggernaut and Multiple Man were just butchered. Multiple Man isn't a big name but Juggernaut? He's a major player in the Marvel Comics Universe and *not* just the X-men's corner of it. Seriously, with Juggernaut, I can forgive him being British. I can forgive him being a mutant. I can forgive him being too small. I cannot forgive them gutting his relationship with Charles because it gives him so much depth... and when you make him a British mutant who isn't large enough then give him terrible lines? No. Cut Juggernaut out of the film and, sad to say, it would *then* be okay. He just brings the stupid. @_@
It's the one that feels the most like the actual comics to me (at least by the end) with a team fight Xmen vs Magneto's group complete with wisecracks and teamwork. And Kelsey Grammer kinda saves everything else.
@I Agreed. Characters don't exist. If there's character it's the actors making an effort. Phoenix looked bad@$$ but contributed NOTHING to the movie.That meaning at the end of X2, the sense of heroism... dissapeared. Doug constantly compares this to the cartoon, but.. he forgets it's a cartoon. That's why Aladdin, Woody Woodpecker, Yogi Bear look horrible as fuck. You need to understand what a COMIC is (not a cartoon btw, X-Men is a comic, ho-hum, which makes it more difficult). Scott Pilgrim or Kill Bil looks dark and colourful at the same time, but that doesn't mean it needs the primary overload, like the cartoon.
I enjoyed it for what it was! Brett Ratner wasn't known for superhero movies, so I let it slide on that, and for the time. If he were to do this *now* ? FUCK no
“You know for a guy from a concentration camp once, he’s getting very Hiler-y” thanks for stating the point of Magneto and how fear can lead otherwise good people to do horrible horrible things, he knows more than anyone what happens when man kind demonizes a group of people but he is short on seeing it himself.
"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Ironically Magneto took the opposite lesson from the concentration camps and adopted the "superior race" mantra just in terms of mutants over non mutants...
Agreed. Shoehorning that most momentous event into a movie which had so much else going on was the fatal flaw. They should have saved it for the next one and gave it the treatment it deserved.
@@dreamlandnightmare Apparently Kinberg (as writer and producer) wanted to JUST do Dark Phoenix, but the studio wanted the cure storyline. What's ironic is that the cure stuff is actually VERY well done and interesting, while the Phoenix stuff was kind of "meh", so I feel like they didn't know where their strengths lay.
@@seamusburke639 Yeh, now it is even weirder with two paralel adaptations of Phoenix. One everyone expect would suck (Fox) and one no one noticed even happened (MCU), for exact same reason why Dark Phoenix suck.
@@dreamlandnightmare That's the main reason why no one can forgive this movie, even though it has a lot of very well done elements - It screwed up Dark Phoenix.
Still NO MENTION of my favorite line in the entire movie: "I told you they'd strike first." Said by Magneto after crushing and flipping trucks, and brutally murdering several people at minimum. I love it. I really love this movie.
That’s because in the context of the film, he’s right. He said that after analyzing the guard’s gun, seeing the weaponized cure inside of it. That happened before he did all that.
@@alexman378 Lol bro you are wrong for about half a dozen different reasons. Making a weapon and using it are two completely different things. Magneto literally murdered multiple people in a brutal fashion before he even KNEW about the darts with the cure. Your statement is similar to saying that I struck first because I own a gun and shot someone who broke into my house attempting to steal my cat. And Magneto FIRST SAYS "They will draw first blood" when he is recruiting mutants in the church. EVEN EARLIER than when he says it in this scene. Also, are you forgetting the part where Magneto attempted to mutate all of the world's leaders in the first film? Or the fact that Mystique got captured in the first place for breaking into government buildings? It makes absolutely zero sense in the context of the film, or in ANY context. There's literally no context where what he says makes sense, in any world that follows any semblance of logic. And that's why its hilarious, and awesome.
@@mcnamaraky The vaccine was made to suppress the Mutant X-gene, with some calling it a "cure" for Mutant-itis. The fact that the US government weaponized shows their intent to make a strike the Mutants, or "to draw first blood." It makes sense knowing Magneto's past experience during WWII. He and his family were sent to Auschwitz to be killed because the Nazis hated the Jews for their differences and attempted to exterminate them. He sees the same thing in the Mutant Registration Act, Striker's actions, and the so-called "Mutant cure." Mutants are the future of humanity, and humans, fearing their extinction, will not stop until all mutants are dead. Magneto is right. He knows humans and mutants cannot live in peace, and Xavier's dreams of a peaceful utopia is childish.
I hate to say but he's probably aged out of it, at least in the capacity in which he portrayed it in this film. He is a case of perfect casting that's hard to follow though.
You wanna know what else Simon Kinberg wrote? X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men Apocalypse. I'm not even kidding. He also wrote Days of Future Past though, so there's that. EDIT: He also wrote the 2015 Fant(four)stic movie
The debate is it better to have good parts or a good whole. The first 2 have an act structure and a linear story, but bland pieces. This one has great pieces but no over arcing story
@@TheRealNormanBates exactly. Ever since i was an 8 year old child I always thought this was the best xmen film(there were only 3 back then). Then i grew up and became more of a film snob and judge folms harshly and especially the xmen franchise which i think are the epitome of bad blockbusters(the last few ones at least) but even now last stand seems like the most fun out of those comic films. It has fun action and a not boring storyline. Its not like we can hope for a cinematic masterpiece out of movies based on flying men for kids
Give wolverine the cure, does he keep the claws? The bone inside would disappear cos that’s his mutation but the metal around it would stay. Could he still bring them out or would the whole cure process kill him cos his body wouldn’t be able to return to a human state? He wouldn’t have the tendons and muscles to bring out his claws but he’d still have these extra bones. Also he’d die of adamantium poisoning pretty fast without his healing to counter it.
Injecting him wouldn't work, as his healing factor would negate it like any other posion but coming into prolonged contact with Leech directly would indeed lead to adamantium poisoning, and kill him.
@@fissilewhistle That would imply that something in his biology is still keeping track of how old he's supposed to be, and his power is actively suppressing it? Heroes did that, and it was a bit strange to me. Why wouldn't he just start aging at a normal rate from where he is now?
I never really cared for Cyclops, and didn't mind that he was left on the back-burner in the first 2 movies. Even so, I found it quite off-putting that the first thing this movie did was kill him, and absolutely confounding that they did it off-screen, in a way that we couldn't even really be sure he was dead until the movie was 100% over and he just never popped back up again. They killed the goddamn quarterback of the team without ever taking 2 minutes to tell us just who in the hell he was, apart from Jean's age-inappropriate boyfriend. And this non-event was immediately upstaged by Professor X's "death". Also, so many characters introduced to do exactly one thing in the movie. It feels like a check-list. Multiple-Man acts as a giant decoy. Porcupine Man gives that woman a hug. Angel walks in and asks a question at an auspicious moment to buck up the main cast... and saves his dad. Juggernaut goes after the kid. Kitty gets the kid away from Juggernaut. Pyro fights with Ice Man. It wasn't just too many plots they were trying to squeeze in. It was too many damn characters, all requiring _a_ thing to do, to justify their existence in the movie.
Actually, the Iceman vs Pyro subplot was introduced in X2, so it wasn't shoehorned in this movie. The other characters that were introduced didn't need to be, but because of "fan service" and the "need" to be in a live-action movie, we got characters we didn't ask for or need to see.
This was the most memorable X-men movie in my mind. I don't remember anything from the other two movies (to the point that I'm doubting whether I actually watch them in the first place) but the image of the boy with mutant-negating abilities, the ice-skating scene, Phoenix blowing up Cyclops, Xavier, and everyone else in the climax, Magneto lifting up the god damn bridge, and so much more are all burned into my brain.
I'd completely forgotten the entire second movie until I watched their review last week. All I could think was, "I think it's the one with Striker..?" But this one is loaded with memorable stuff as you've mentioned.
The first movie I remember nothing of other than Wolverine talks with Rogue at some point and then she's strapped to a lighthouse or something. The second movie I remember the school had a break-in and Jean "died". The third movie I remember all of Jean's scenes cause girl had me spooked when I was younger, I remember the bridge, and I remember the fight scene at the end. Based on all this, I remember the plot of the third movie the most cause of my memories centered around Magneto and Jean vs the X-men. But I don't know what the heck was goin on in the first movie, and all I remember for the 2nd is that humans wanted to mess with mutants in general, as hinted by the school break-in.
To be honest ,i don't hate this movie. i feel it was the best looking film in the trilogy and the action was solid. the problem was the fact that they were trying to adapt "dark phoenix". everybody blames Brett Ratner for the quality of this movie, but fun fact, Ratner was brought literally at the last minute when the script was done and Singer already stole James Marsden for "superman returns". do you really believe that, if Singer directed "the last stand" it would've been any better? (going to space ,fighting aliens) the answer is NO. say what you want on Ratner as a person.. but as a director, i think he did a pretty damn good job with the awful script he was handed.
@@TheRezro Haven't seen Captain Marvel yet, if that's what you mean. No, I'm referring to everything that made the story interesting and coherent. Even (or should I say *not surprisingly*?) X-Men: the Animated Series scewed the pooch on adaptation.
When I came to the whole thing with Jean Grey I kind of was able to figure out what was going on from the 1st to 2nd movie. Her using SEREBRO was so difficult for her it’s screwed with the mental barriers. The truth is even as a kid who had watched the animated X-Men series as soon as she mentioned at the beginning of the movie that her powers were getting stronger, I instantly thought oh well then she’s going to die so in the third movie she’ll become the dark Phoenix. It was basically no surprise me whatsoever that they were going this direction. And on a sidenote: when you try and take a comic book story and try to keep it “grounded” and “realistic” you’re going to fail miserably when you try to then adapt a story that had more fantastical elements. The dark phoenix. case in point.
Two things: 1) People mistake edgy or dull with the "serious" treatment. Thing is that story is serious when it attempt to use logical structure even for fantastical elements. For example in MCU they decided to dump whole magic as something cheesy, and that way whole thing including magic have more solid structure as all those element has consistent origin in alien technology. It is also why I dislike first X-Man movie most from this trilogy, as Magneto Deus Ex Machine make no sense in context of Kree genetic experiments, or even this worlds lore itself. 2) The problem with Phoenix is that Joan Gray is not Phoenix, it is Phoenix who is Joan "Marvel Girl" Gray. They turn whole story into cheap split personality trope, ignoring everything what make Dark Phoenix saga great. A identity crisis! Gladly they make it correct in MCU this time. In fact so correct that no one even noticed what is really going one.
I didn't know about the "bitch" meme when I saw the movie either. Heck, I didn't even know about the meme until the Nostalgia Critic review of it and I haven't looked into the meme, so I don't know the full context of the meme, thus I don't groan at that scene. As for when you watch Origins and it gets to THAT scene, just remember the Deadpool Logan fights is just a clone of the original created after the original went rogue in his sexy red spandex, further proven in Deadpool 2. Will make getting through that scene so much less painful
When Doug said "He would do Phoenix right." I seriously thought he meant Phoenix Wright. And I was like "Did...Doug make an Ace Attorney reference???" Being an Ace Attorney fan, I was surprised. If he made the reference or not, that is so cool. XD
Got to see you guys at c2e2. Doug you took a picture with my son, thank you, he might not have seemed it but he was extreamely happy to see u guys. He's on the spectrum so it's hard for him to take pictures with people. So thank you for that. You may be wondering why an 8 year old knows about you guys, he found out about you guys when I was going through court to get custody of him. Court case was brutal and well it was a depressing time for me. But I discovered you guys and you guys helped indirectly keep my spirits up. Well my son would keep hearing me laugh, he asked what it was, I would tell him nostalgia critic. Well one day he used the RUclips app on my Xbox and I heard him laughing, he was watching "Batman and Robin" so he became hooked. That was 2016. So thank you all at channel awesome
Doug, I think in the spirit of St. Patrick's Day, you should review "Song of the Sea". It's a film about Irish folklore. And it was beautiful. Also, it's animated!
Isnt days of future's past the 4th and final installment in that franchise since it sparked so many timelines as a result such as deadpool logan and the the first class series
I think they're talking about how the Days of Future's Past time travel shenanigans more or less made new timelines. Apocalypse, Logan, and the Deadpool films are part of different timelines.
My opinion on these films X-Men - Good X2 - Awesome The Last Stand - Okay Origins - No First Class - Awesome The Wolverine - Good Days of Future Past - Good Deadpool - Awesome Apocalypse - Good Logan - Awesome Deadpool 2 - Good Dark Phoenix - FUCK NO!! The New Mutants - Don't Bother
My opinions: X-Men: okay X2: good The Last Stand: bad, but enjoyable Origins: bad First Class: great The Wolverine: good Days of Future Past: great Deadpool: amazing Apocalypse: okay Logan: amazing Deadpool 2: great Dark Phoenix: terrible New Mutants: awful
I always thought Lawrence Fishburne would have been a great Beast. But then, I thought he would have been the perfect Apocalypse too. Frazier was an excellent choice, but 2nd place for me.
@@ekmalsukarno2302 Just because they won't shut the hell up about an obvious movie he'll ultimately review doesn't mean you should join in with the notion of what you're doing is okay. It's still annoying and pointless because he WILL review the movie. He just has other shit he wants to talk about and that's more important.
So many great scenes that just happen for no real reason. But my favorite scene will always be when the xmen form a line to protect the people from magnetos forces. Now that's goosebump material
The real problem with this movie is the dark Phoenix. If they had left out that and just followed the mutant "cure" story line, and tightened up the plot. This could have been a really good movie. The dark Phoenix story was just completely tacked on. That needed it's own entire movie. And Phoenix wasn't evil from the beginning. She was good before turning to the darkness.
@@bernieburton6520 I think they try do that with upcoming Dark Phoenix movie, but I suspect that it would fail for same reason it failed in X-man 3. Joan Gray is not the Phoenix, it is the other way around! Gladly they make it proper way in Captain Marvel, what also is the reason I suspect upcoming movie would suck, as I don't think that they tell same story twice (even if Fox do that for third time).
I agree with Doug, I think this movie is good and my favorite part is the characters and performances. Especially Kelsey Grammer as Beast it's unfortunate he never played Dark Beast. Can't wait for the Origins review, the only thing I liked in that was Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth.
4:16 wait! It’s a hologram, it’s not real... HOW IS IT LIGHTING HIS CIGAR! Is the cigar a simulation? How did it get in there! Did he program it in? Why?
What the hell, I just realized that Rogue in these movies had been prominently watered down into a damsel in distress if not a plot device while Kitty's been doing a lot more stuff in missions, even up until Day Of The Future Past.
Even despite the ending, I think this is one of the best Xmen movies... It may have helped that I didn't see it in theatres and avoided watching it for a few years because of everyone saying it was terrible so when I finally saw it my thoughts were "Huh, that's really good... I don't get why everyone hated it."
"Music gets better with each film" I have to partially disagree with that; John Ottman's X2 score is one of my all-time favorites. I was so happy that he returned for DoFP and Apocalypse, reusing that epic main theme.
Fun fact, i dont hate any of the Xmen movies, even X-Men: Origins was cool in my eyes. They all had bad parts, none of them were even close to being perfect or even close to the animated series.. but i still liked them. The two X men movies i liked the most are X2 and Days of the Future past.. but they even ruined that one. Sentinels were barely in it.. barely any cool futuristic stuff..
The death of Xavier was an awesome sequence. The music was awesome. The ideas the film put forth were interesting. I think had they six more months to refine it, it would have been the best of the bunch. As it was, it seemed oddly unfinished in parts. Also of the original three, it was the highest grossing.
After watching your reviews of X1 thru 3, having seen them all a couple of times, I think I've concluded that this one is my preferred of the bunch. Better action, more exciting/entertaining, more color, more memorable scenes, felt more X-man-y than the other two, and the most goddamn perfect Beast possible in film. Sure, it's a bad movie but it's a bad movie made out of so many good things.
Kelsey Grammar was one of the only reasons I saw this movie! As a huge Frasier fan I remember being a little conflicted thinking why would they put Frasier in an X-Men movie. He did not disappoint though. I think he was one of the most genius casting decisions ever and he pulled it off so amazingly.
What's with all the hate with Apocalypse? The pacing is so good for a two and a half hour movie! There's genuinely good action, comedy, and drama, all of which are evenly balanced and so really cool concepts! Here's my (controversial) ranking of the X-Men films (excluding the Deadpool films) 9) X-Men Origins: Wolverine [GOOD: Hugh Jackman and Liev Schreiber's performances and the war montage BAD: Everything else. It butchers Deadpool. I don't hate it, it's just okay.] 8) X-Men: The Last Stand [GOOD: Epic in scale, Great action, interesting concepts, ballsy plot points, entertaining, effective casting BAD: Dated effects, odd narrative structure, and bland humor. I actually liked this, I thought it was unique at the time and didn't overstay it's welcome. Most of this is addressed in the video, so sorry I didn't bring much new to the table.] 7) X-Men [GOOD: Casting, Atmosphere, Gradual easing into the universe, some pretty interesting action sequences, decent writing, Intriguing character moves BAD: Bland and forgettable in places, Poorly timed/executed jokes, occasionally boring, inconsistent in places. All in all, not all that memorable but still a good starting place and a good film.] 6) X-Men: First Class [GOOD: Casting, Action, Drama, Tonally different for an X-Men film, dark Magneto storyline BAD: I found it the weakest when I first watched it, Inconsistent, Stilted dialogue. Probably the best prequel that is JUST a prequel.] 5) X-2: X-Men United [GOOD: Leaps better than the original, Cool set pieces/ideas, decent action/writing, memorable cinematography BAD: Not as THOROUGHLY engaging. This is where the franchise starts to become great, in my opinion. These top 5, I mean.] 4) X-Men: Apocalypse [GOOD: Swift pacing, Several memorable scenes, Balanced action, drama, and comedy BAD: Oscar Isaac and other elements underutilized, but I'm giving it a break for being 2 1/2 hours.] 3) The Wolverine [GOOD: Growth for Wolverine as a character, memorable action scenes, James Mangold knows how to bring Wolverine to series high levels of drama, Cool visuals BAD: Butchers a character from the comics, but in a more forgivable fashion than Origins.] 2) Logan [GOOD: Honestly probably the best of the franchise, but it's not my favorite, Gritty tone, Brutally violent action, Series high drama, great acting, fully utilizes Wolverine BAD: More of a personal preference, but I get depressed thinking about this film. It hurts to think about it. This is a GREAT thing, though, It shows how effective the writing and directing is. There's also a third-act slump through the first half of the ending where the film starts to feel bloated. Still, great stuff.] 1) X-Men: Days of Future Past (GOOD: Combines original trilogy cast with prequel cast, great action, ideas, memorable visuals (including the most memorable joke in the franchise apart from First Class), interactions, and the most X-Meny that the series ever got. BAD: Has a briefer third act slump than Logan. Personally, this is my favorite, and I acknowledge that Logan is best, but this film contains everything I love into a great film!
They wasted Blob, completely changed Angel, forced the whole Stryker thing in there just for a Wolverine cameo, nobody likes the young recasts, too much Mystique again, messed up Apocalypse there is more just don't feel like writing all of it.
Woah hang on a minute I just I just need to understand something. Right, so Doug sort of likes X-Men The Last Stand yet hates the following good films: The Emperor’s New Groove Last Action Hero Pirates of the Caribbean On Stranger Tides The Lone Ranger All of which are really great films!!! So where is the sense in that? Edit: Yes the way I typed this out is a reference to the dialogue before the fight at the Fountain of Youth in the film “On Stranger Tides”!
@@NeoConnor1 All of them are good. Last Stand is a parody of 80’s action films especially Schwarzenegger’s work. Lone ranger is a great epic journey of a man’s search of justice only to learn that what he believed was the law was just as evil as that he pursued so he had to truly become the Lone Ranger, Also On StrangerTides is 100% better than both Dead Man’s Chest and World’s End with a better villain, better romance with Syrena and Philip than Elizabeth and Will had in three films, Jack is more competent than in the previous two entries and you have a great Boba Fett like character with the Spaniard and I mean not in the film much, but just so cool. Plus the whole story is easier to follow than that in Man’s Chest and End: Jack ends up on another adventure because of Blackbeard searching for the Fountain of Youth to save his soul, Barbossa wants revenge on Blackbeard and is on his trail, and The Spaniard is on a mission to destroy the fountain.
Scene with Logan Slowly Rushing up to Pheonix was one of my Favorite Scenes Out Of the Original X-Men Movies and It had an Epic Score Accompanying it “Pheonix Rises” Even though they Butchered the title of Deadpool in Origins, Its still pretty watchable by today’s standards and has some Pretty Great moments too
TheRezro It’s called Opinions, I can say that Green lantern is not a watchable movie but I can say that Origins Wolverine(Uncaged Game Version) is a watchable movie
Despite this movie having more action and an awesome Beast, it seems cheap like the rest of original movies. I find the locations underwhelming. The end battle would have been better if it magnetos side had less but more defined mutants. Every xmen movie always seems like production was rushed , so we get crappy wirework all the time. I would have loved to have seen Vaughn’s version of the Last Stand,
Have you guys thought about doing an Old vs New of X Men the Animated Series and X Men Evolution? It is a bit weird that most of the X Men were aged down to high school (Jean Grey, Cyclops, Rogue, Toad, Nightcrawler, etc.), but they handled the tragic Rogue a lot better than the movies, the most important X Men were kept adult (Xavier, Beast, Magneto, Mystique, Storm, Wolverine), and there’s no pointless love triangle with Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean Grey.
Doug, I’m with you. I always thought the 1st one was good, but only coz it was the 1st one, the 2nd had a great opening but was then just a bit dull and meh, and the 3rd was my fav as more action, plus the sound track is great...
Is this movie really that bad? I've seen it multiple times and while I do agree it is the weakest of the original trilogy and probably shouldn't have tried to combine the cure with the dark phoenix storyline. Nothing about it is really that bad nor anything about it makes it the "worst sequel" in Doug's words. So I really don't get why this movie is so bad it had to be retconned out.
I suppose the reason for the retconning was mainly for the Dark Pheonix subplot since the they were planning on redoing it as a full plot after Apocalypse. It had nothing to do with the "Cure" subplot.
10:50 The reaction recreation in the Nostalgia Critic video is my reaction(Or the very few book fans) to the final few minutes of the last How to Train Your Dragon Movie. A 3'200+minute franchise and you waited till the very very end to quote anything from the novels! Doug in this video is me watching HTYD2. It still insults me with Roughnut's crushing on John Snow, Alpha dragons, dragons eating nothing but fish, Drago dying anticlimactically, Toothless going Super Saiyan, and Hiccups mom claiming bad dragons don't exist in nature, (You see thousands of bad dragons in the series.) but out of all the films it's the one that feels the most epic, there are location shots that look like the novels, it had the best relationship dynamics, and Drago is the only charater in the series who trained dragons by yelling at them, ironically making him more of a Cressida Cowell villain than the actual villain from the novels! (Alvin) Being a How to Train Your Dragon book series fan is slightly more painful than being a Marvel comics fan. (Or just about any British book fan that DreamWorks has and will adapt)
Douglas, is there something you want to tell us about the stamps in your browsing history?
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@@Mechaghostman2 LEAVE!
Mechaghostman2 GET OUT
Douglas, it's been an hour and no one has said Douglas.
Douglas has been looking up Stamps on the computer?! I thought ExpressVPN blocks such filth?
Rewatching "X-Men: Origins" is gonna be torturous for these guys! 😂
But it'll be very entertaining for us
Cannot wait till next Wednesday then lol... For the review
I'm so "X-cited" for it!
Will it be the ONLY time we get Gambit, mon ami?
chris sonofpear1 Now that Disney bought Fox, it’s definitely the case for this film series.
I have to agree with Doug. It's not as bad as everyone says. It's just okay
I half agree? It isn't as bad as Doug made out "everyone" claiming it was (in the actual review - still watching at the video). I think it is a bit better than what the general consensus says, but the just makes it a _mediocre_ film, not even "okay".
I didn't lose interest in watching from boredom, but from dread of "the cringe". XP The film didn't tackle some weighty topics, it bumped into them. ;) The good scenes _are_ good, but *not* "great" the way Doug was trying to make them out to be; the bridge - for example - struck me as _silly_ because I wasn't overwhelmed so I had time to think about it. XD Kelsey Grammer is great as Beast until he loses the suit and tie. Juggernaut and Multiple Man were just butchered. Multiple Man isn't a big name but Juggernaut? He's a major player in the Marvel Comics Universe and *not* just the X-men's corner of it.
Seriously, with Juggernaut, I can forgive him being British. I can forgive him being a mutant. I can forgive him being too small. I cannot forgive them gutting his relationship with Charles because it gives him so much depth... and when you make him a British mutant who isn't large enough then give him terrible lines? No. Cut Juggernaut out of the film and, sad to say, it would *then* be okay. He just brings the stupid. @_@
It's the one that feels the most like the actual comics to me (at least by the end) with a team fight Xmen vs Magneto's group complete with wisecracks and teamwork.
And Kelsey Grammer kinda saves everything else.
I remember falling asleep in the theater and I loved both first and second
@I Agreed. Characters don't exist. If there's character it's the actors making an effort. Phoenix looked bad@$$ but contributed NOTHING to the movie.That meaning at the end of X2, the sense of heroism... dissapeared. Doug constantly compares this to the cartoon, but.. he forgets it's a cartoon. That's why Aladdin, Woody Woodpecker, Yogi Bear look horrible as fuck. You need to understand what a COMIC is (not a cartoon btw, X-Men is a comic, ho-hum, which makes it more difficult). Scott Pilgrim or Kill Bil looks dark and colourful at the same time, but that doesn't mean it needs the primary overload, like the cartoon.
I enjoyed it for what it was! Brett Ratner wasn't known for superhero movies, so I let it slide on that, and for the time. If he were to do this *now* ? FUCK no
“You know for a guy from a concentration camp once, he’s getting very Hiler-y” thanks for stating the point of Magneto and how fear can lead otherwise good people to do horrible horrible things, he knows more than anyone what happens when man kind demonizes a group of people but he is short on seeing it himself.
Ironic history repeats itself Probably most realistic thing in whole franchise
"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Ironically Magneto took the opposite lesson from the concentration camps and adopted the "superior race" mantra just in terms of mutants over non mutants...
This is why I think it's in poor taste to just label and dismiss someone like Hitler as evil. It pays no heed to how such a person came to be.
@@Draliseth Based.
If Last Stand would have cut out the Dark Phoenix adapt than this would have been a much better movie
Agreed. Shoehorning that most momentous event into a movie which had so much else going on was the fatal flaw. They should have saved it for the next one and gave it the treatment it deserved.
@@dreamlandnightmare Apparently Kinberg (as writer and producer) wanted to JUST do Dark Phoenix, but the studio wanted the cure storyline. What's ironic is that the cure stuff is actually VERY well done and interesting, while the Phoenix stuff was kind of "meh", so I feel like they didn't know where their strengths lay.
@@seamusburke639 Yeh, now it is even weirder with two paralel adaptations of Phoenix. One everyone expect would suck (Fox) and one no one noticed even happened (MCU), for exact same reason why Dark Phoenix suck.
@@dreamlandnightmare That's the main reason why no one can forgive this movie, even though it has a lot of very well done elements - It screwed up Dark Phoenix.
@@seamusburke639Holy shit, that's a twist for the books.
Still NO MENTION of my favorite line in the entire movie: "I told you they'd strike first." Said by Magneto after crushing and flipping trucks, and brutally murdering several people at minimum. I love it. I really love this movie.
That’s because in the context of the film, he’s right. He said that after analyzing the guard’s gun, seeing the weaponized cure inside of it. That happened before he did all that.
@@alexman378 "They WOULD'VE struck first, so we struck first."
@@alexman378 Lol bro you are wrong for about half a dozen different reasons.
Making a weapon and using it are two completely different things. Magneto literally murdered multiple people in a brutal fashion before he even KNEW about the darts with the cure.
Your statement is similar to saying that I struck first because I own a gun and shot someone who broke into my house attempting to steal my cat.
And Magneto FIRST SAYS "They will draw first blood" when he is recruiting mutants in the church. EVEN EARLIER than when he says it in this scene.
Also, are you forgetting the part where Magneto attempted to mutate all of the world's leaders in the first film? Or the fact that Mystique got captured in the first place for breaking into government buildings?
It makes absolutely zero sense in the context of the film, or in ANY context. There's literally no context where what he says makes sense, in any world that follows any semblance of logic. And that's why its hilarious, and awesome.
@@mcnamaraky
The vaccine was made to suppress the Mutant X-gene, with some calling it a "cure" for Mutant-itis. The fact that the US government weaponized shows their intent to make a strike the Mutants, or "to draw first blood."
It makes sense knowing Magneto's past experience during WWII. He and his family were sent to Auschwitz to be killed because the Nazis hated the Jews for their differences and attempted to exterminate them. He sees the same thing in the Mutant Registration Act, Striker's actions, and the so-called "Mutant cure."
Mutants are the future of humanity, and humans, fearing their extinction, will not stop until all mutants are dead. Magneto is right. He knows humans and mutants cannot live in peace, and Xavier's dreams of a peaceful utopia is childish.
"Didn't you strike first, Magneto?"
"I like to think of it as pre-emptive self defense."
I like to imagine Marvel bringing back Kelsey Grammer for Beast the way JK Simmons was brought back for J Jonah Jameson in Spiderman: Far From Home.
I hate to say but he's probably aged out of it, at least in the capacity in which he portrayed it in this film.
He is a case of perfect casting that's hard to follow though.
They kinda did that in Days of Future Past
Have I got some news for you…
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This comment aged well
Did they just call Dark Phoenix
PHOENIX WEIGHT!?
That’s gold
Actually it was "Phoenix right", but you're right!
Legoking 616 ah ok 👌 thx
Actually imagine if Dark Phoenix was Phoenix Wright instead of Jean
OBJECTION!!!! 👉
@@viggs._ And now the fun part.. Phoenix is in MCU :D
And I'm not talking about this upcoming shitty X-Man movie.
7:50 Jean Grey: "My inner Goddess is about to explode!"
Wolverine: "Wait, what?"
Who here wish NightCrawler came back for this film ?
I totally do! Beast and Nightcrawler would have been great!
Yeah, was unfortunate Alan Cumming refused to get into makeup again
Wait, where was nightcrawler in X3 ?
I do
Beast and Nightcrawler were by far the best things to come out of the trilogy.
3:09 - 3:14 Rogue: "I mean, granted, when we're together, my mind is *also* on one thing, but I actually have a reason why I can't f#*&!"
Except, you know, condoms.
@@cassiohenrique6815 oops I touched your leg, oops your thrust hit me. Oops you laid on my chest aaand your dead
@@TheSimmr001 fuck with his pants on condom and gloves GG
Well there was this one scene from the naked gun
@@dastvan8002 always practice safe sex
Kelsey Grammar as beast was just a fantastic choice and the action was pretty good overall
And yes, Rob's fly is down during the video.
The Last Stand is a masterpiece compared to Origins.
Not saying too much, but yeah. :P
Well c'mon now, that's a LOW fuckin' bar to clear.
I could rewatch Origins ten times before I could 3. Last Stand told my childhood to go fuck itself
Yeah...
Which in turn is a masterpiece compared to Dark PhoeniX.
Bryan Singer isn't involved in Dark Phoenix, its being written and Directed by Simon Kinberg.
Robert Middleton he’s a producer
@@thewerewolff7248 Nope
You wanna know what else Simon Kinberg wrote? X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men Apocalypse. I'm not even kidding.
He also wrote Days of Future Past though, so there's that.
EDIT: He also wrote the 2015 Fant(four)stic movie
Brymon Sinberg.
@@TechnologicallyTechnical Oh.. so gladly we also have decent version of Phoenix in MCU, then.
The debate is it better to have good parts or a good whole.
The first 2 have an act structure and a linear story, but bland pieces. This one has great pieces but no over arcing story
Is it too much to ask for both?
@@TheRealNormanBates exactly. Ever since i was an 8 year old child I always thought this was the best xmen film(there were only 3 back then). Then i grew up and became more of a film snob and judge folms harshly and especially the xmen franchise which i think are the epitome of bad blockbusters(the last few ones at least) but even now last stand seems like the most fun out of those comic films. It has fun action and a not boring storyline. Its not like we can hope for a cinematic masterpiece out of movies based on flying men for kids
Give wolverine the cure, does he keep the claws? The bone inside would disappear cos that’s his mutation but the metal around it would stay. Could he still bring them out or would the whole cure process kill him cos his body wouldn’t be able to return to a human state? He wouldn’t have the tendons and muscles to bring out his claws but he’d still have these extra bones.
Also he’d die of adamantium poisoning pretty fast without his healing to counter it.
Injecting him wouldn't work, as his healing factor would negate it like any other posion but coming into prolonged contact with Leech directly would indeed lead to adamantium poisoning, and kill him.
His mutation is the healing factor, he is still able to pull out his claws if his mutant powers wipe out
Boris Flores his mutation is also the bone claws.
Doesn’t part of Logan’s healing factor include reduced aging? If so, then he’d die of old age immediately upon being “cured.”
@@fissilewhistle That would imply that something in his biology is still keeping track of how old he's supposed to be, and his power is actively suppressing it? Heroes did that, and it was a bit strange to me. Why wouldn't he just start aging at a normal rate from where he is now?
Have you ever considered releasing full version of those first viewings, meant to be watched alongside the film à la Rifftrax?
As much as I would love them to do this I think they avoid this because of potential copyright strikes. I still wish these videos were longer though.
I never really cared for Cyclops, and didn't mind that he was left on the back-burner in the first 2 movies. Even so, I found it quite off-putting that the first thing this movie did was kill him, and absolutely confounding that they did it off-screen, in a way that we couldn't even really be sure he was dead until the movie was 100% over and he just never popped back up again. They killed the goddamn quarterback of the team without ever taking 2 minutes to tell us just who in the hell he was, apart from Jean's age-inappropriate boyfriend. And this non-event was immediately upstaged by Professor X's "death".
Also, so many characters introduced to do exactly one thing in the movie. It feels like a check-list. Multiple-Man acts as a giant decoy. Porcupine Man gives that woman a hug. Angel walks in and asks a question at an auspicious moment to buck up the main cast... and saves his dad. Juggernaut goes after the kid. Kitty gets the kid away from Juggernaut. Pyro fights with Ice Man. It wasn't just too many plots they were trying to squeeze in. It was too many damn characters, all requiring _a_ thing to do, to justify their existence in the movie.
Actually, the Iceman vs Pyro subplot was introduced in X2, so it wasn't shoehorned in this movie. The other characters that were introduced didn't need to be, but because of "fan service" and the "need" to be in a live-action movie, we got characters we didn't ask for or need to see.
They had to kill off Cyclops; the actor demanded that they kill off his character so that he could be in Superman Returns.
This was the most memorable X-men movie in my mind. I don't remember anything from the other two movies (to the point that I'm doubting whether I actually watch them in the first place) but the image of the boy with mutant-negating abilities, the ice-skating scene, Phoenix blowing up Cyclops, Xavier, and everyone else in the climax, Magneto lifting up the god damn bridge, and so much more are all burned into my brain.
All of the chaotic beauty!
I'd completely forgotten the entire second movie until I watched their review last week. All I could think was, "I think it's the one with Striker..?" But this one is loaded with memorable stuff as you've mentioned.
The first movie I remember nothing of other than Wolverine talks with Rogue at some point and then she's strapped to a lighthouse or something. The second movie I remember the school had a break-in and Jean "died". The third movie I remember all of Jean's scenes cause girl had me spooked when I was younger, I remember the bridge, and I remember the fight scene at the end. Based on all this, I remember the plot of the third movie the most cause of my memories centered around Magneto and Jean vs the X-men. But I don't know what the heck was goin on in the first movie, and all I remember for the 2nd is that humans wanted to mess with mutants in general, as hinted by the school break-in.
You could say that arc-angel had a little arc in this movie
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Nah he's just Angel. No Arc at all
By *little* you mean *none*
He flew over an Arc I think...
Arc angel has metal wings, hes angel
How much will ‘The Last Stand’ ‘X’haust Doug’s love for X-Men?
Ah, an X-traordinary Pun
X related pun
An X-cellent pun. I'll tell ya hwat
Love the First Viewing series
Yes!
I prefer them to the finished NC video, really. It's the interplay between Doug and Rob that sells it for me.
Now I know why wolverine was so angry with superman for stealing their director
Until he directed--and ruined--Apocalypse
Well, Bryan Singer made Superman boring and mediocre, so the Last Stand wouldn't gave been much better with Singer involved.
I loved Rob's used car fire joke. Really wish that had made it into the show.
To be honest ,i don't hate this movie. i feel it was the best looking film in the trilogy and the action was solid. the problem was the fact that they were trying to adapt "dark phoenix". everybody blames Brett Ratner for the quality of this movie, but fun fact, Ratner was brought literally at the last minute when the script was done and Singer already stole James Marsden for "superman returns". do you really believe that, if Singer directed "the last stand" it would've been any better? (going to space ,fighting aliens) the answer is NO. say what you want on Ratner as a person.. but as a director, i think he did a pretty damn good job with the awful script he was handed.
And 'The Curse' (if not more so)
To Brett's credit, the Phoenix storyline has *yet* to be properly translated to an audiovisual medium, properly
@@KingRandor82 You mean Joan "Marvel Girl" Grey arc? Because Phoenix already is in MCU, what most people didn't even noticed :D
@@TheRezro Haven't seen Captain Marvel yet, if that's what you mean. No, I'm referring to everything that made the story interesting and coherent. Even (or should I say *not surprisingly*?) X-Men: the Animated Series scewed the pooch on adaptation.
@@KingRandor82 Most people didn't noticed that even if it is obvious, so they did good job ;D
I think if someone could fix the ending for X-Men Last Stand it would be a better movie.
Mr. Slim I agree
Like maybe save the whole Jean Grey/Dark Pheonix plot for another movie on its own?
When I came to the whole thing with Jean Grey I kind of was able to figure out what was going on from the 1st to 2nd movie.
Her using SEREBRO was so difficult for her it’s screwed with the mental barriers.
The truth is even as a kid who had watched the animated X-Men series as soon as she mentioned at the beginning of the movie that her powers were getting stronger, I instantly thought oh well then she’s going to die so in the third movie she’ll become the dark Phoenix. It was basically no surprise me whatsoever that they were going this direction.
And on a sidenote: when you try and take a comic book story and try to keep it “grounded” and “realistic” you’re going to fail miserably when you try to then adapt a story that had more fantastical elements. The dark phoenix. case in point.
Two things:
1) People mistake edgy or dull with the "serious" treatment. Thing is that story is serious when it attempt to use logical structure even for fantastical elements. For example in MCU they decided to dump whole magic as something cheesy, and that way whole thing including magic have more solid structure as all those element has consistent origin in alien technology. It is also why I dislike first X-Man movie most from this trilogy, as Magneto Deus Ex Machine make no sense in context of Kree genetic experiments, or even this worlds lore itself.
2) The problem with Phoenix is that Joan Gray is not Phoenix, it is Phoenix who is Joan "Marvel Girl" Gray. They turn whole story into cheap split personality trope, ignoring everything what make Dark Phoenix saga great. A identity crisis! Gladly they make it correct in MCU this time. In fact so correct that no one even noticed what is really going one.
@@TheRezro Jean Grey*
"Shut up and get finger painting bub" is probably the first truly LOL
I didn't know about the "bitch" meme when I saw the movie either. Heck, I didn't even know about the meme until the Nostalgia Critic review of it and I haven't looked into the meme, so I don't know the full context of the meme, thus I don't groan at that scene.
As for when you watch Origins and it gets to THAT scene, just remember the Deadpool Logan fights is just a clone of the original created after the original went rogue in his sexy red spandex, further proven in Deadpool 2.
Will make getting through that scene so much less painful
When Doug said "He would do Phoenix right." I seriously thought he meant Phoenix Wright. And I was like "Did...Doug make an Ace Attorney reference???" Being an Ace Attorney fan, I was surprised. If he made the reference or not, that is so cool. XD
"Shut up and get fingerpainting, bub!" Good grief that hit me just right for some reason
Man, Rob does NOT wanna let Doug have this one
I’m living for Chaplin chilling in Doug’s lap. Kitty!!!!
Got to see you guys at c2e2. Doug you took a picture with my son, thank you, he might not have seemed it but he was extreamely happy to see u guys. He's on the spectrum so it's hard for him to take pictures with people. So thank you for that.
You may be wondering why an 8 year old knows about you guys, he found out about you guys when I was going through court to get custody of him. Court case was brutal and well it was a depressing time for me. But I discovered you guys and you guys helped indirectly keep my spirits up. Well my son would keep hearing me laugh, he asked what it was, I would tell him nostalgia critic. Well one day he used the RUclips app on my Xbox and I heard him laughing, he was watching "Batman and Robin" so he became hooked. That was 2016.
So thank you all at channel awesome
Doug, I think in the spirit of St. Patrick's Day, you should review "Song of the Sea". It's a film about Irish folklore. And it was beautiful. Also, it's animated!
Isnt days of future's past the 4th and final installment in that franchise since it sparked so many timelines as a result such as deadpool logan and the the first class series
Nope... u missed
X-Men apocalypse
Logan
Deadpool 2
And now we're getting one last one
X-Men dark Phoenix
And the spin-off movie
The new mutants
Sigh
I think they're talking about how the Days of Future's Past time travel shenanigans more or less made new timelines. Apocalypse, Logan, and the Deadpool films are part of different timelines.
@2:46
I don't think I'd want Bryan Singer doing a Phoenix Wright film either.
My opinion on these films
X-Men - Good
X2 - Awesome
The Last Stand - Okay
Origins - No
First Class - Awesome
The Wolverine - Good
Days of Future Past - Good
Deadpool - Awesome
Apocalypse - Good
Logan - Awesome
Deadpool 2 - Good
Dark Phoenix - FUCK NO!!
The New Mutants - Don't Bother
I feel the same way 🙂
I think that Days Of Future Past was awesome, but I respect your opinión.
My opinions:
X-Men: okay
X2: good
The Last Stand: bad, but enjoyable
Origins: bad
First Class: great
The Wolverine: good
Days of Future Past: great
Deadpool: amazing
Apocalypse: okay
Logan: amazing
Deadpool 2: great
Dark Phoenix: terrible
New Mutants: awful
It's going to be hilarious watching them rip origins wolverine to shreds🤣
I like it's action scenes
5:20.
Rob: "You're like reverse Rogaine!"
Me: "You're Nair!"
😏 Me too
Thank you 🙏🏻
The best bad Xmen movie. The action scenes alone I can sit through way more than Dark Phoenix, Origins, and Apocalypse
I always thought Lawrence Fishburne would have been a great Beast. But then, I thought he would have been the perfect Apocalypse too. Frazier was an excellent choice, but 2nd place for me.
I wonder if it will ever have X-Men in it
Ex- Men: We're like the Transformers but its not about the explosions, or women, or non character personality moments and we do also have Frasier!!!!
@@TheWorldsBiggestFan89 and side of scrambled eggs
Nostalgia Critic, you must review Alvin and the Chipmunks: Road Chip sometime this year. Any other time is not acceptable.
Get over it
Stop posting this on all their videos
CaptainEnglehorn Other people have requested the same thing on this channel before and I'm just siding with them.
@@ekmalsukarno2302 Just because they won't shut the hell up about an obvious movie he'll ultimately review doesn't mean you should join in with the notion of what you're doing is okay. It's still annoying and pointless because he WILL review the movie. He just has other shit he wants to talk about and that's more important.
Why is Psylocke a villain?
Same with her being evil in Apocalypse... but at least there she looked like Psylocke... so I could imagine a better movie with the volume off...
@@Fordo007 two potential words.
Marvel
Studios
They eventually used the same Marvel intro with the X-Men comics again in Logan...also Rob's fly is down.
So many great scenes that just happen for no real reason. But my favorite scene will always be when the xmen form a line to protect the people from magnetos forces. Now that's goosebump material
The real problem with this movie is the dark Phoenix. If they had left out that and just followed the mutant "cure" story line, and tightened up the plot. This could have been a really good movie. The dark Phoenix story was just completely tacked on. That needed it's own entire movie. And Phoenix wasn't evil from the beginning. She was good before turning to the darkness.
@I if they had Incorporated Phoenix as good in this movie, then did dark Phoenix as a fourth movie, it could have potentially worked
@@bernieburton6520 I think they try do that with upcoming Dark Phoenix movie, but I suspect that it would fail for same reason it failed in X-man 3. Joan Gray is not the Phoenix, it is the other way around! Gladly they make it proper way in Captain Marvel, what also is the reason I suspect upcoming movie would suck, as I don't think that they tell same story twice (even if Fox do that for third time).
I agree with Doug, I think this movie is good and my favorite part is the characters and performances. Especially Kelsey Grammer as Beast it's unfortunate he never played Dark Beast. Can't wait for the Origins review, the only thing I liked in that was Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth.
I still find X-men 3 is the most fun of the 3. The first is okay and the second made me fall asleep.
Bryan Singer isn't the director of X-Men: Dark Phoenix, that's actually Simon Kinberg.
4:16 wait! It’s a hologram, it’s not real... HOW IS IT LIGHTING HIS CIGAR! Is the cigar a simulation? How did it get in there! Did he program it in? Why?
Beast was enjoyable. Kelsey Grammer was awesome. I actually felt for him. That scene with Jimmy/Leech was great.
T.B.H. I really enjoyed last stand. Even though the 2nd x-men is still my favorite but the 3rd was still a legit action movie.
What the hell, I just realized that Rogue in these movies had been prominently watered down into a damsel in distress if not a plot device while Kitty's been doing a lot more stuff in missions, even up until Day Of The Future Past.
Even despite the ending, I think this is one of the best Xmen movies... It may have helped that I didn't see it in theatres and avoided watching it for a few years because of everyone saying it was terrible so when I finally saw it my thoughts were "Huh, that's really good... I don't get why everyone hated it."
I love Rob’s perfectly cut screams
I’m with Doug
I totally heard "He's going to do Phoenix right" as "He is going to do Phoenix Wright" lmfao
I mean... Phoenix Wright DOES have the Wolverine hair that Singer seems so fond of...
Why is Singer doing Phoenix Wright?
Because he wanted to do his take on the Ace Attorney.
"Music gets better with each film"
I have to partially disagree with that; John Ottman's X2 score is one of my all-time favorites. I was so happy that he returned for DoFP and Apocalypse, reusing that epic main theme.
My first reaction to Last Stand was fairly similar to Doug's, only on a rewatch a little later did I really see the glaring issues
Zeuseus6609
Same here
Fun fact, i dont hate any of the Xmen movies, even X-Men: Origins was cool in my eyes. They all had bad parts, none of them were even close to being perfect or even close to the animated series.. but i still liked them.
The two X men movies i liked the most are X2 and Days of the Future past.. but they even ruined that one. Sentinels were barely in it.. barely any cool futuristic stuff..
X-Men: The Last Stand vs X-Men Origins: Wolverine. We all know who wins!
GO WATCH UMBRELLA ACADEMY
I agree. The first episode is a little slow, but it's a REALLY good show! Can't wait for Season 2
Way off topic, but are you guys ever going to do more Steven Universe vlogs? So much craziness has happened!
2:44 "Singer is back." Uhm, actually: X-Men: Dark Phoenix is directed by Simon Kinberg.
Honestly this one is my favorite of the series. It’s the only one that’s fun to me and the only one I willingly watch.
If there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s comments that beg for likes.
I mean it.
Is Rob's fly down near the end of the video!?
I never noticed the fly on Wolverine's shoulder, but is Rob's fly open near the end of this video?
How the brotherhood of evil mutants advertise cars at a dealership: 11:17
The death of Xavier was an awesome sequence. The music was awesome. The ideas the film put forth were interesting. I think had they six more months to refine it, it would have been the best of the bunch. As it was, it seemed oddly unfinished in parts.
Also of the original three, it was the highest grossing.
The first viewings are more fun to me than the actual review
Love or hate it, Can we just all agree Kelsey Grammar as Beast was perfect casting?
I’m so hyped for first class
After watching your reviews of X1 thru 3, having seen them all a couple of times, I think I've concluded that this one is my preferred of the bunch. Better action, more exciting/entertaining, more color, more memorable scenes, felt more X-man-y than the other two, and the most goddamn perfect Beast possible in film. Sure, it's a bad movie but it's a bad movie made out of so many good things.
Kelsey Grammar was one of the only reasons I saw this movie! As a huge Frasier fan I remember being a little conflicted thinking why would they put Frasier in an X-Men movie. He did not disappoint though. I think he was one of the most genius casting decisions ever and he pulled it off so amazingly.
Yul Brynner as the King of Siam reference is a good move.
Please review The Interview
I got a new appreciation for The Last Stand after Dark Phoenix came out. Dark Phoenix is one of my least favorite comic book movies ever
I hope he reviews the other X-Men movies eventually too. I agree with Rob, Apocalypse annoyed me a lot.
Maybe we could get a second x-month with First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix
"Of course they are, you can see it's CGI'd in"
"...........it's all CGI.........."
How is Logan lighting his cigar on a fire that doesn't exist?
What's with all the hate with Apocalypse? The pacing is so good for a two and a half hour movie! There's genuinely good action, comedy, and drama, all of which are evenly balanced and so really cool concepts! Here's my (controversial) ranking of the X-Men films (excluding the Deadpool films)
9) X-Men Origins: Wolverine [GOOD: Hugh Jackman and Liev Schreiber's performances and the war montage BAD: Everything else. It butchers Deadpool. I don't hate it, it's just okay.]
8) X-Men: The Last Stand [GOOD: Epic in scale, Great action, interesting concepts, ballsy plot points, entertaining, effective casting BAD: Dated effects, odd narrative structure, and bland humor. I actually liked this, I thought it was unique at the time and didn't overstay it's welcome. Most of this is addressed in the video, so sorry I didn't bring much new to the table.]
7) X-Men [GOOD: Casting, Atmosphere, Gradual easing into the universe, some pretty interesting action sequences, decent writing, Intriguing character moves BAD: Bland and forgettable in places, Poorly timed/executed jokes, occasionally boring, inconsistent in places. All in all, not all that memorable but still a good starting place and a good film.]
6) X-Men: First Class [GOOD: Casting, Action, Drama, Tonally different for an X-Men film, dark Magneto storyline BAD: I found it the weakest when I first watched it, Inconsistent, Stilted dialogue. Probably the best prequel that is JUST a prequel.]
5) X-2: X-Men United [GOOD: Leaps better than the original, Cool set pieces/ideas, decent action/writing, memorable cinematography BAD: Not as THOROUGHLY engaging. This is where the franchise starts to become great, in my opinion. These top 5, I mean.]
4) X-Men: Apocalypse [GOOD: Swift pacing, Several memorable scenes, Balanced action, drama, and comedy BAD: Oscar Isaac and other elements underutilized, but I'm giving it a break for being 2 1/2 hours.]
3) The Wolverine [GOOD: Growth for Wolverine as a character, memorable action scenes, James Mangold knows how to bring Wolverine to series high levels of drama, Cool visuals BAD: Butchers a character from the comics, but in a more forgivable fashion than Origins.]
2) Logan [GOOD: Honestly probably the best of the franchise, but it's not my favorite, Gritty tone, Brutally violent action, Series high drama, great acting, fully utilizes Wolverine BAD: More of a personal preference, but I get depressed thinking about this film. It hurts to think about it. This is a GREAT thing, though, It shows how effective the writing and directing is. There's also a third-act slump through the first half of the ending where the film starts to feel bloated. Still, great stuff.]
1) X-Men: Days of Future Past (GOOD: Combines original trilogy cast with prequel cast, great action, ideas, memorable visuals (including the most memorable joke in the franchise apart from First Class), interactions, and the most X-Meny that the series ever got. BAD: Has a briefer third act slump than Logan. Personally, this is my favorite, and I acknowledge that Logan is best, but this film contains everything I love into a great film!
They wasted Blob, completely changed Angel, forced the whole Stryker thing in there just for a Wolverine cameo, nobody likes the young recasts, too much Mystique again, messed up Apocalypse there is more just don't feel like writing all of it.
Woah hang on a minute I just I just need to understand something. Right, so Doug sort of likes X-Men The Last Stand yet hates the following good films:
The Emperor’s New Groove
Last Action Hero
Pirates of the Caribbean On Stranger Tides
The Lone Ranger
All of which are really great films!!!
So where is the sense in that?
Edit: Yes the way I typed this out is a reference to the dialogue before the fight at the Fountain of Youth in the film “On Stranger Tides”!
James Moyner
Seriously?
@@RickyUzumaki993 What part surprises you the fact that Doug sort of likes "The Last Stand" or that he hates all of those good movies?
The only one of those films you listed that is good is emperor's new groove, and Doug didn't hate it; he thought it was okay.
@@NeoConnor1 All of them are good.
Last Stand is a parody of 80’s action films especially Schwarzenegger’s work.
Lone ranger is a great epic journey of a man’s search of justice only to learn that what he believed was the law was just as evil as that he pursued so he had to truly become the Lone Ranger,
Also On StrangerTides is 100% better than both Dead Man’s Chest and World’s End with a better villain, better romance with Syrena and Philip than Elizabeth and Will had in three films, Jack is more competent than in the previous two entries and you have a great Boba Fett like character with the Spaniard and I mean not in the film much, but just so cool. Plus the whole story is easier to follow than that in Man’s Chest and End:
Jack ends up on another adventure because of Blackbeard searching for the Fountain of Youth to save his soul, Barbossa wants revenge on Blackbeard and is on his trail, and The Spaniard is on a mission to destroy the fountain.
I cannot WAIT to see what you guys say about Origins' Wade Wilson.
Scene with Logan Slowly Rushing up to Pheonix was one of my Favorite Scenes Out Of the Original X-Men Movies and It had an Epic Score Accompanying it “Pheonix Rises”
Even though they Butchered the title of Deadpool in Origins, Its still pretty watchable by today’s standards and has some Pretty Great moments too
Troll detected! Origin was so bad that people stop hating X-Man 3 0_0
TheRezro It’s called Opinions, I can say that Green lantern is not a watchable movie but I can say that Origins Wolverine(Uncaged Game Version) is a watchable movie
@@Fi_Sci_ Except "today standards" is objective factor, so go away 0_0
TheRezro can’t really go away when your Messages pop up in my Notifications 😂
Despite this movie having more action and an awesome Beast, it seems cheap like the rest of original movies. I find the locations underwhelming. The end battle would have been better if it magnetos side had less but more defined mutants. Every xmen movie always seems like production was rushed , so we get crappy wirework all the time. I would have loved to have seen Vaughn’s version of the Last Stand,
Have you guys thought about doing an Old vs New of X Men the Animated Series and X Men Evolution? It is a bit weird that most of the X Men were aged down to high school (Jean Grey, Cyclops, Rogue, Toad, Nightcrawler, etc.), but they handled the tragic Rogue a lot better than the movies, the most important X Men were kept adult (Xavier, Beast, Magneto, Mystique, Storm, Wolverine), and there’s no pointless love triangle with Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean Grey.
Doug, I’m with you. I always thought the 1st one was good, but only coz it was the 1st one, the 2nd had a great opening but was then just a bit dull and meh, and the 3rd was my fav as more action, plus the sound track is great...
I can't wait for you to review US. So many gaps and questions that didn't make sense.
Dude you are the only medicine for my depression 😂🤗
13:50 *cough the last jedi
do Blade "first viewing"!!
Is this movie really that bad? I've seen it multiple times and while I do agree it is the weakest of the original trilogy and probably shouldn't have tried to combine the cure with the dark phoenix storyline. Nothing about it is really that bad nor anything about it makes it the "worst sequel" in Doug's words.
So I really don't get why this movie is so bad it had to be retconned out.
It's more the missed potential and misuse of some characters. A number of scenes are REALLY GOOD.
@@chrissonofpear1384 Yeah, I guess.
@@laviarray People hated it at the time. Now it is more a joke NC made.
I suppose the reason for the retconning was mainly for the Dark Pheonix subplot since the they were planning on redoing it as a full plot after Apocalypse. It had nothing to do with the "Cure" subplot.
@@JasonICECarson What is funniest though is that Disney already did adopt Phoenix and in way superior way.. lol ;D
10:50 The reaction recreation in the Nostalgia Critic video is my reaction(Or the very few book fans)
to the final few minutes of the last How to Train Your Dragon Movie.
A 3'200+minute franchise and you waited till the very very end to quote anything from the novels!
Doug in this video is me watching HTYD2. It still insults me with Roughnut's crushing on John Snow,
Alpha dragons, dragons eating nothing but fish, Drago dying anticlimactically, Toothless going
Super Saiyan, and Hiccups mom claiming bad dragons don't exist in nature,
(You see thousands of bad dragons in the series.) but out of all the films it's the one that feels the
most epic, there are location shots that look like the novels, it had the best relationship dynamics,
and Drago is the only charater in the series who trained dragons by yelling at them, ironically
making him more of a Cressida Cowell villain than the actual villain from the novels! (Alvin)
Being a How to Train Your Dragon book series fan is slightly more painful than being
a Marvel comics fan. (Or just about any British book fan that DreamWorks has and will adapt)
Doug and Rob, I dare you to make a First Review of Garbage Pail Kids ! But I autorize you the bourbon for limit the pain !
Doug did it years and years ago...
I saw the 2009 review and it was hilarious but I want see them react on that a second time !
@Aaron K Oh yeah !
I just remembered something....were is Nightcrawler he was in the last movie