I agree about no basements. It's such an unnecessary wasted space and just ends up being ignored and becomes a waste land for storage. I love ranch style homes. Its so much more convenient to have everything on one level. I bought my first home, 1912 Cape Cod style in VA and i hate the stairs and walls. Its all so narrow and hard to maneuver around. When my student introduced me to the Barndominum, i instantly fell in love!! It reminded me of my first apartment in Chelsea Ma that was a loft style apartment with concrete floors, open space concept, and vaulted ceilings. I loved that place so much. The clean lines and manageability is awesome. So for my second home, im considering a build. I do have a question for you. Is it better to build on land that already has a propery on it or completely start from scratch on raw land?
We couldn't agree more! Our team is obsessed with the design and layouts of barndominiums. We are not licensed contractor, so we always recommend discussing those questions with a contractor. Are you considering demolishing an existing structure, or using an existing structure to refurbish into a barndominium (such as an old barn)? For existing structure are you looking at it as a cost savings for utility lines/perk test etc? I apologize for all the questions, but as you are experiencing firsthand there are many factors to consider. I apologize for all the questions, but to further help you and others down the line we would like to ask builders these questions and have the answers more readily available on our channel. Our most recent interview on our podcast with Shane Kitchen, a builder here in Michigan. He said, the terrain is a primary factor as one of the greatest cost savings with a barndominium. For a parcel with a build location on slope, your cost can significantly increase. Possibly to a point that building your standard home with a basement would be a better route. Shane said he would be more than happy to answer any questions regarding the building process. Here is the link to Shane's Facebook Group where you could ask your question and get an answer from someone that has years of experience building barndominums. facebook.com/groups/184349986722405 If you have questions regarding financing barndominiums, that's our specialty and would be more than happy to answer any questions you have. Thank you for the comment and have a great day!
Is there an explanation of why a ranch style would be cheaper than 2 floors for a barndo? My wife and I are looking to build one next year and this is the first time I've heard this mentioned, and Charles doesn't give an explanation as to why. Thanks!
Hi! From what I recall, the cost savings were due to flooring for the second level. Customers looking to save money stick with the concrete floors may stick with the concrete floors when building a ranch style barndominium. The other added cost is additional lumber (support beams, floor joist, etc.). Thank you for your question. This was great question, and we are actually going to have Chuck come back on our channel to specifically talk about this topic.
The guy said it cheaper to stay ranch and go wider and bigger how much are you really saving in going wider and longer in land prep work and Concrete on the slab!
That is a great question! Chuck is an excellent builder and having built numerous barndominiums he wouldn't recommend going that route if that wasn't the case. We plan on doing more videos with him in the future and this will be one of the questions that we will ask him. I am also intrigued to have him break down and compare the cost of going wider and longer versus building up.
@@RoyaltyMedical-k5f - You will love your barndo! We have even more resources to help you begin planning! You can check them out at www.ProjectBarndo.com
@@fishingnetwork8771 No - because you would be dropping the overall amount of square footage at a lower build cost, so the ‘average’ cost per sq would increase. We have a detailed example of this this in a FREE guide that we provide at www.ProjectBarndo.com.
It depends on a few factors. Sorry, I can't give a definite yes or no, because the cost per square foot of barndominiums can sometimes be distorted. Here's why: Barndominiums are often advertised as lower-cost per square foot homes, especially in the barndominium community on social media. This is primarily due to the total square footage, which includes both the living space and the garage/shop space. Barndominiums often feature larger garages than conventional homes, which may only have a one or two-car garage. Example: Two Barndominiums, each 4,000 sq. ft. Home Plan A: 3,000 sq. ft. of living space and 1,000 sq. ft. of unfinished garage/shop space. Home Plan B: 1,000 sq. ft. of living space and 3,000 sq. ft. of unfinished garage/shop/barn space. For illustration purposes only, we'll use $200 per sq. ft. for finished living space and $100 per sq. ft. for unfinished areas. Home Plan A: 3,000 sq ft (living) x $200 = $600,000 1,000 sq ft (garage/shop) x $100 = $100,000 Total: $600,000 + $100,000 = $700,000 Cost per square foot: $700,000 ÷ 4,000 = $175/sq. ft. Home Plan B: 1,000 sq ft (living) x $200 = $200,000 3,000 sq ft (garage/shop) x $100 = $300,000 Total: $200,000 + $300,000 = $500,000 Cost per square foot: $500,000 ÷ 4,000 = $125/sq. ft. As you can see, the ratio of finished living space to unfinished garage/shop space can distort the cost per square foot calculation. As Chuck mentioned, the $135 per sq. ft. includes these larger shop/garage spaces, which is often the reason barndominiums may appear to be cheaper to build. In your case, removing the garage will save money on the total cost of the building, but when looking at the cost per square foot, it may actually be higher. The reason for this is that you've subtracted the extra "cheaper" square footage from the garage/shop space from the equation. That’s why we highly recommend working with a builder who can walk you through these finer details. We've seen people claim they've built their barndominiums for under $100 per sq. ft., but they didn't disclose that they did most of the work themselves, used cheaper finishes, and had a 3,000 sq. ft. garage. Side note: Chuck does have a construction method that reduces costs, and he highlights several areas where you can save money with a barndominium compared to a conventional build (e.g., no basement, flooring, etc.). If you have any more questions, we are happy to help.
Clearly you’re not a construction guy. You save a tremendous amount of money building on a slab, no siding, no brick, roofs more cost effective. Also depends where you’re at. High end stick build where I’m at is 175 a ft traditional build
Hello, in the middle of deciding wether to build traditional or post frame. Does Charles Shultz service the Berrien county MI area? thank you Spencer for such a high quality and informative video.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Unfortunately, he does not go that far west. If you have any questions you can reach me directly at smykala@dartbank.com.
So if or when deregulation comes into play, post President Trump Nov.5 2024 what is going to look like 1ace, 1100 to 1800 mt,Morris, Clio 200k to 250k .
I could watch you build in the wilderness for hours
I agree about no basements. It's such an unnecessary wasted space and just ends up being ignored and becomes a waste land for storage.
I love ranch style homes. Its so much more convenient to have everything on one level.
I bought my first home, 1912 Cape Cod style in VA and i hate the stairs and walls. Its all so narrow and hard to maneuver around.
When my student introduced me to the Barndominum, i instantly fell in love!!
It reminded me of my first apartment in Chelsea Ma that was a loft style apartment with concrete floors, open space concept, and vaulted ceilings.
I loved that place so much. The clean lines and manageability is awesome.
So for my second home, im considering a build.
I do have a question for you. Is it better to build on land that already has a propery on it or completely start from scratch on raw land?
We couldn't agree more! Our team is obsessed with the design and layouts of barndominiums.
We are not licensed contractor, so we always recommend discussing those questions with a contractor.
Are you considering demolishing an existing structure, or using an existing structure to refurbish into a barndominium (such as an old barn)? For existing structure are you looking at it as a cost savings for utility lines/perk test etc? I apologize for all the questions, but as you are experiencing firsthand there are many factors to consider. I apologize for all the questions, but to further help you and others down the line we would like to ask builders these questions and have the answers more readily available on our channel.
Our most recent interview on our podcast with Shane Kitchen, a builder here in Michigan. He said, the terrain is a primary factor as one of the greatest cost savings with a barndominium. For a parcel with a build location on slope, your cost can significantly increase. Possibly to a point that building your standard home with a basement would be a better route. Shane said he would be more than happy to answer any questions regarding the building process.
Here is the link to Shane's Facebook Group where you could ask your question and get an answer from someone that has years of experience building barndominums.
facebook.com/groups/184349986722405
If you have questions regarding financing barndominiums, that's our specialty and would be more than happy to answer any questions you have.
Thank you for the comment and have a great day!
Is there an explanation of why a ranch style would be cheaper than 2 floors for a barndo? My wife and I are looking to build one next year and this is the first time I've heard this mentioned, and Charles doesn't give an explanation as to why. Thanks!
Hi! From what I recall, the cost savings were due to flooring for the second level. Customers looking to save money stick with the concrete floors may stick with the concrete floors when building a ranch style barndominium. The other added cost is additional lumber (support beams, floor joist, etc.). Thank you for your question. This was great question, and we are actually going to have Chuck come back on our channel to specifically talk about this topic.
The guy said it cheaper to stay ranch and go wider and bigger how much are you really saving in going wider and longer in land prep work and Concrete on the slab!
That is a great question! Chuck is an excellent builder and having built numerous barndominiums he wouldn't recommend going that route if that wasn't the case. We plan on doing more videos with him in the future and this will be one of the questions that we will ask him. I am also intrigued to have him break down and compare the cost of going wider and longer versus building up.
I love this video I want to build me one when I retired
@@RoyaltyMedical-k5f - You will love your barndo! We have even more resources to help you begin planning! You can check them out at www.ProjectBarndo.com
I was just quoted $200 a sqft in missouri for a Bardominium
at that price, what not build a stick built home?
so would the aprox $135/sqft still be if you didn't have garage space?
@@fishingnetwork8771
No - because you would be dropping the overall amount of square footage at a lower build cost, so the ‘average’ cost per sq would increase. We have a detailed example of this this in a FREE guide that we provide at www.ProjectBarndo.com.
It depends on a few factors. Sorry, I can't give a definite yes or no, because the cost per square foot of barndominiums can sometimes be distorted. Here's why:
Barndominiums are often advertised as lower-cost per square foot homes, especially in the barndominium community on social media. This is primarily due to the total square footage, which includes both the living space and the garage/shop space. Barndominiums often feature larger garages than conventional homes, which may only have a one or two-car garage.
Example: Two Barndominiums, each 4,000 sq. ft.
Home Plan A: 3,000 sq. ft. of living space and 1,000 sq. ft. of unfinished garage/shop space.
Home Plan B: 1,000 sq. ft. of living space and 3,000 sq. ft. of unfinished garage/shop/barn space.
For illustration purposes only, we'll use $200 per sq. ft. for finished living space and $100 per sq. ft. for unfinished areas.
Home Plan A:
3,000 sq ft (living) x $200 = $600,000
1,000 sq ft (garage/shop) x $100 = $100,000
Total: $600,000 + $100,000 = $700,000
Cost per square foot: $700,000 ÷ 4,000 = $175/sq. ft.
Home Plan B:
1,000 sq ft (living) x $200 = $200,000
3,000 sq ft (garage/shop) x $100 = $300,000
Total: $200,000 + $300,000 = $500,000
Cost per square foot: $500,000 ÷ 4,000 = $125/sq. ft.
As you can see, the ratio of finished living space to unfinished garage/shop space can distort the cost per square foot calculation. As Chuck mentioned, the $135 per sq. ft. includes these larger shop/garage spaces, which is often the reason barndominiums may appear to be cheaper to build.
In your case, removing the garage will save money on the total cost of the building, but when looking at the cost per square foot, it may actually be higher. The reason for this is that you've subtracted the extra "cheaper" square footage from the garage/shop space from the equation.
That’s why we highly recommend working with a builder who can walk you through these finer details. We've seen people claim they've built their barndominiums for under $100 per sq. ft., but they didn't disclose that they did most of the work themselves, used cheaper finishes, and had a 3,000 sq. ft. garage.
Side note: Chuck does have a construction method that reduces costs, and he highlights several areas where you can save money with a barndominium compared to a conventional build (e.g., no basement, flooring, etc.).
If you have any more questions, we are happy to help.
Is he saying $135 a sq ft for a turnkey home? Obviously material finishes can alter that, but he was talking turn key?
Yes, that was turnkey quotes he referred to.
That's 400k for a 2400 sqft home lol good luck
Clearly you’re not a construction guy. You save a tremendous amount of money building on a slab, no siding, no brick, roofs more cost effective. Also depends where you’re at. High end stick build where I’m at is 175 a ft traditional build
When you say 2000sq/ft, is it habitable square foot or 2000sq/ft with no walls or anything inside?
The price is for a turn key build.
Chuck Rocks! The Right way is the best way...No cutting Corners to save a Dollar i like his style😀🙌😁
I want to know what’s not included in that cost. Septic, well, appliances?
That was a turnkey price. However, appliances were not included.
Hello, in the middle of deciding wether to build traditional or post frame. Does Charles Shultz service the Berrien county MI area? thank you Spencer for such a high quality and informative video.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Unfortunately, he does not go that far west. If you have any questions you can reach me directly at smykala@dartbank.com.
In what states do you build in
Chuck (Patriot Builders) focuses on building in southeast Michigan.
So if or when deregulation comes into play, post President Trump Nov.5 2024 what is going to look like 1ace, 1100 to 1800 mt,Morris, Clio 200k to 250k .