Explaining nonparametric statistics, part 1

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  • @ln8416
    @ln8416 Месяц назад +22

    What a time to be alive... just open RUclips and get educational quality content to procrastinate from your statistic lectures. Thank you!

  • @2nd_ntr
    @2nd_ntr Месяц назад +20

    nonparametrics sounds like a branch of the SCP Foundation

  • @Sarwaan001
    @Sarwaan001 Месяц назад +2

    I minored in Statistics and I always wondered how we would handle data that doesn’t follow a certain distribution. I’m glad I stumbled on this video

  • @michaelmillett1478
    @michaelmillett1478 22 часа назад

    This was very well explained. Thanks for sharing your insight!

  • @prod.kashkari3075
    @prod.kashkari3075 Месяц назад

    Cool! Excited for part 2.

  • @christian7559
    @christian7559 Месяц назад +35

    Bootstrap is life

  • @chemistrycapital
    @chemistrycapital Месяц назад +3

    Loving the pharma twist to this video

  • @blessedowo1958
    @blessedowo1958 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you bro. This is helpful

  • @fadhlyazka
    @fadhlyazka Месяц назад

    Thanks man. Keep it up.

  • @sujathaontheweb3740
    @sujathaontheweb3740 20 дней назад

    You're a great teacher!

  • @thiagonunes3183
    @thiagonunes3183 Месяц назад +1

    great video

  • @conceptualprogress
    @conceptualprogress 10 дней назад

    AWESOME VIDEO

  • @jeffreychandler8418
    @jeffreychandler8418 Месяц назад +10

    I've heard some people argue that rank based nonparametric methods are not very useful because you aren't measuring the data, but the ranks of the data, which is a fundamentally different problem.
    What do you make of this debate?
    Ive seen the wasserman "all of nonparametric statistics" cited as providing alternatives and support for that contention.

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад +11

      Disclaimer: I have not thought a lot about this, but here’s my two cents.
      I think it’s a fair issue to bring up, especially when the specific values of the data have real-world meaning. I.e I’d want a hypothesis test on my blood pressure to say something about my blood pressure, not its rank relative to others.
      Overall, it’s still a valuable tool for people because I view working with a transform of the data to be better than totally ignoring the assumptions of a hypothesis test.

    • @robertwilsoniii2048
      @robertwilsoniii2048 29 дней назад

      ​​​​​The answer is that signed ranks allow us to determine whether or not there are statistically significant effects, even when minorities are present in samples. This is something the Central Limit Theorem can't handle, because when using the Central Limit Theorem you can't tell whether or not an unlikely sample mean is caused by minorities or caused by statistically significant effects. This forces you to either decide that the minorities don't matter or that the majority doesn't matter -- it forcibly discriminates against groups that are different from one another. Signed ranks solve this problem, so that you can test hypothesis without discriminating against minorities.​@@very-normal
      You need to make the judgment call on which to use based on the situation. In personal medicine, parametric tests make sense because your own body doesn't benefit from signed ranks. But anything involving diverse communities of several people of different backgrounds would benefit from non parametric techniques.
      Likewise, machine learning involving classification of diverse objects would benefit from non parametric techniques -- such as k-means clustering.

  • @robertwilsoniii2048
    @robertwilsoniii2048 29 дней назад

    The Central Limit Theorem *always* applies. But, it *also* marginalizes different groups and minorities in the population. And for that reason, I do prefer non-parametric models.

  • @t0mcc
    @t0mcc Месяц назад

    very helpful!

  • @huhuboss8274
    @huhuboss8274 Месяц назад

    Will you cover Dempster-Shafer theory in the future?

  • @byronwatkins2565
    @byronwatkins2565 Месяц назад +1

    The ACTUAL name of the sgn(x) function is 'signum.' It is Latin for something that has a sign or a signature.

  • @zacsanchez7520
    @zacsanchez7520 Месяц назад

    I'd like to know more about where such a statistic was derived from, I'm not an expert but it seems like a sort of intuitive way(almost back of the envelope-ish) to get the behaviour you described at 6:47

  • @prod.kashkari3075
    @prod.kashkari3075 Месяц назад

    You should also cover nonparametric regression stuff, like smoothing

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад

      I think that would be cool! You mean something like kernels or splines, yeah?

    • @prod.kashkari3075
      @prod.kashkari3075 Месяц назад

      @@very-normal yes

  • @maloevain5857
    @maloevain5857 Месяц назад +4

    Excellent video but at min 4.15 it should not be the density distribution fonction rather than the cdf ? Because the cdf is strictly increasing.

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад +4

      Yeah you’re right, the notation is for a general CDF. I chose to show the PDF instead since it’s easier to see the symmetry but I should have had another bit of notation there to connect that

    • @maloevain5857
      @maloevain5857 Месяц назад +1

      @@very-normal yes it's just a detail, anyway the video is super clear

  • @Minisynapse
    @Minisynapse Месяц назад +1

    Would love some content on complex linear models, mixed linear models and all that. But maybe you'd have to start with general linear models first.

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад +1

      Yeahhh, it might be a while before I get to the more complex linear models, but I’ll definitely get to them since they’re so commonly used

    • @Minisynapse
      @Minisynapse Месяц назад

      @@very-normal Subscribed so I can catch those, keep up the good work, love the format of the videos!

  • @Neptoid
    @Neptoid Месяц назад +1

    What if you need to watch a RUclips tutorial? It still would count as a non-work site wouldn’t it?

  • @georgessakr1
    @georgessakr1 Месяц назад

    opinion abput all of nonparametric statistics by Wasserman?
    Also any suggestions on bayesians / monte carlo methods??

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад

      I haven’t read all of it, but I have it as a reference! I like his work overall though.
      Not sure about Monte Carlo, but my usual rec for Bayesian stuff is Bayesian Data Analysis by Gelman

  • @lordzekrom2
    @lordzekrom2 Месяц назад +3

    Pretty sure I get an entire class on these and SEMs next semester

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад +1

      Good luck! SEM was rough for me when I took it 💀

    • @samcs8927
      @samcs8927 Месяц назад

      What is SEM?

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад +1

      It stands for “structural equation modeling”, it’s often used with latent variables, which are common in fields like psychology

  • @OneDSystems
    @OneDSystems Месяц назад

    which SW do you use to show the formulas with the animations and the graphs, curves, etc?

  • @Inter_Are
    @Inter_Are Месяц назад +1

    Question!! How could you test if the “typical non-work watch time” was either significantly less than or greater than the 60 min?
    (Let’s say you get mad at your employees for watching on the clock, but in reality they watch near 0 min which is causing the low p-value)

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад +1

      I could specify in wilcox.test that I’d like a one sided test via one of its arguments. By default, it goes with a two-sided test

    • @Inter_Are
      @Inter_Are Месяц назад

      @@very-normal Faster response time than most of my professors! I appreciate you and your amazing stats content!! Thanks :)

  • @johanngambolputty5351
    @johanngambolputty5351 Месяц назад

    Wait a second, was hypothesis testing P(param | data) is proportional to P(data | param) (by bayes) all along? Makes sense I suppose, you do that in maximum likelihood estimation I think, this seems like the instantaneous version, where you're judging one case before moving to a more likely param candidate? (single cost evaluation rather than whole optimisation?)

  • @lexinwonderland5741
    @lexinwonderland5741 Месяц назад

    What would you recommend for students who can't afford a license to use R or MATLAB environments?

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад +6

      R is free tho! Also you could go with Python

    • @jeffreychandler8418
      @jeffreychandler8418 Месяц назад +4

      R is completely free for everyone, same with Rstudio
      edit: so is Python, Julia, and VSCode

  • @MKhan-zo8xo
    @MKhan-zo8xo Месяц назад +4

    for the algo!!

  • @joelbaptista9725
    @joelbaptista9725 Месяц назад

    I don't have a lot of knowledge in statistics, so this question might sound dumb. The only thing we've assumed about the distribution to perform this test is that the distribution is symmetric, right?

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад

      Yes! And also that it’s continuous

  • @piaveipvsenlawp7402
    @piaveipvsenlawp7402 Месяц назад

    Love your vids, but isn't it theta-nought, as in zero, not theta-not

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад

      lol yeah I know, I tried going for a pronounciation type thing but I don’t think it worked out 😅

    • @jamesdavis3851
      @jamesdavis3851 Месяц назад

      @@very-normal I took it as a choice reflective of the no-frills, and approachable non-elitist attitude toward a difficult subject where the content is what matters

  • @mop4193
    @mop4193 Месяц назад

    Nonparametric is not applied a lot practically and does not seem to be preferable that much in research papers. Why? Parametric analysis seem the go-to typically

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад

      This is my opinion, but I think a lot of it comes from unfamiliarity and unawareness that the methods even exist, especially among non-statistician researchers. I’ve seen some researchers use it, but it is not that common. There are other reasons concerning power & efficiency, but I think most people just don’t think about them

    • @azure-hawk
      @azure-hawk Месяц назад

      The interpretation of a non-parametric test also tends to be less intuitive and useful to researchers than a parametric test. Bootstrapping would be a good alternative, though most people tend to forget they have it in their bag of tools (including myself)

  • @qqq3230
    @qqq3230 Месяц назад +2

    you are 1 week too late i already flunked my nonparametric statistics midterm exam 😅

    • @very-normal
      @very-normal  Месяц назад +1

      my b, i gotchu for the final

  • @busbymath
    @busbymath Месяц назад

    fix your mic