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There's another why the Soviets required five crew members to fly their planes.. This was to prevent only one or two pilots to get it into their heads to defect. Also, the IL-76 was designed initially to be a bomber, hence the glass nose.
Yes, I lost my brother on the Saudi plane. He was about to get married, and he was the only person who did not find his body. They used to take some of the bodies in bags, to the point that we searched the dentists’ records to see if the remaining bodies belonged to him or not. Unfortunately, we did not find, instead of That’s because our lives have changed from that moment until now. For me, I travel a lot, and whenever I start taking off or landing, I remember those situations well. I move from one country to another. I don’t tell my mother when I travel but when I arrive, and also when I return I don’t tell her until I arrive, pray for them. All have mercy.
Yes ..I remember very clearly the news report telling this ( I was in 6th but clearly remember this and my dad telling it's a miracle that someone survived this ) later I guess they died after reaching hospital .... but I don't see any news report for this now...can you share
@@2002georgezacharia then we find out from the creator of this channel that people surviving plane crashes is actually normal and common and my only guess is since a lot of the wrecks happen near land people get out and survive maybe. im still confused about it, its very counter intuitive
@@lowlowseesee the shock ( in a good sense I mean ) was over survivors was mainly related to this crash, this mid air collision was extremely horrific (many bodies were not recovered and many undetected. Most likely the early survivors would be on the Il-76 I assume as it had some fly ability till the end, Almost all bodies in the Saudi 747 were charred beyond recognition ( most only identified by DNA tests) IN such an accident even having people initially survive sounds a (miracle :)
@@lowlowseesee In incidents where some semblance of control is maintained all the way to the ground, let's call it the distinction between a "crash landing" and just a "crash", a surprising percentage of people usually survive the initial impact with the ground. Unfortunately aircraft also happen to be flying gas tanks, and it's usually the ensuing smoke/fire that claims the majority of those who might've survived otherwise. Outside of crash landings, people have also survived far more "impossible" scenarios too, of course. Vesna Vulović, a flight attendant aboard JAT 370, survived not only the detonation of a bomb on board and subsequent midair breakup of the aircraft, but also the 33,000 foot free fall that came immediately after. 4 people, including 2 children, survived after JAL 123 slammed into a mountainside at ~340 knots in Japan. It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility that there were survivors, at least initially, from this incident as well.
If I remember correctly, the “witness” was a U.S. Air Force Transport crew who were on a humanitarian relief mission. The ATC asked them if they saw anything. They first reported the flames in the clouds, and later described seeing 2 distinct flaming trails falling to earth. They also went into “defense” mode assuming that missiles were involved. At least until it became clear that what they saw was a 2 plane collision. I’m always kind of amazed at how unknown this crash is? To me it actually seems worse than Tenerife. I mean yes Tenerife technically had greater loss of life. But Tenerife also had a surprisingly high number of survivors. Whereas this one was 2 full passenger airliners with a complete loss of life.
Hopefully the Russians have modernized their systems on this plane, 37 years later. And India not modernizing their radar at the time is inexcusable. These are perfect examples why I will never travel to or from India, Russia or China.
I’ve always considered this particular crash to be one of the more unknown + underreported aeroplane disasters. I’ve anticipating in hope you would one day cover this one, and true to form you not only deliver the goods but surpass all benchmarks yet again. Thank you so much for the ongoing detail and uniqueness you bring to this particular YT community! ✌🏼
@@jetsetradio5441 I heard about it years ago through either Air Crash Investigation/Mayday or Seconds From Disaster. Just a horrible situation, can't imagine what the crews/passengers went through.
He was cleared after the investigation and went on to have a lengthy career as a controller. After he retired and became a trainer for young controllers in India. At least this was what the mayday TV show described. He (VK dutta) appeared on the episode and was there as an interviewee.
Hearing "Aloft" by Lemmino in the beginning made me so happy. I'm glad you know of/enjoy Lemmino. Huge props to him for allowing people to freely use his music (with credit)
High quality, detailed explanation and an overall incredible video. I expected no less! Honestly you deserve so many more subscribers, and it sucks that the channel is not too well known. Keep working on those sponsorships and you’ll get there!
See if you could be a guest on Mentour Pilot. He has guests and Mentour has over 1 million subscribers. His videos are presented in a different format than your platform more technical for new and existing pilots for the most part. I am not either just a fan as I am of yours.
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would be so heartbreaking listening to the black box recording on this breakdown your very underrated as a youtube channel quality video as always so horrible this disaster tho :(
I’m a new subscriber and saw this channel for the first time when I woke up a few minutes ago to find this video playing. I frequently use RUclips as a “sleeping pill” and fall asleep watching one video, waking up to some randomness in the morning. What a great channel this is! I subscribe to other airplane disaster channels but hadn’t come across this one, nor had I heard of this tragic collision. As someone said, it seems very under reported. The narration and the simulation here are brilliant and I’m happy to think I will now be a regular viewer. Well done on a great presentation and I wish you all the best, as this channel deserves to grow!
i clicked on this vid bc i enjoy learning about disasters/crashes and i’m a kazakhstani. i wasn’t disappointed, keep up the good work! also thank you for getting kazakhstan’s (english) pronunciation right. i’ve heard too many people call it kuh-ZACH-i-stan years lmao
Apparently the number 1907 for flights is cursed. Two flights with the same number, 10 years apart, were involved in mid-air collisions, with tragic results...
1+9+0+7= 8. According to numerology it’s the number of Saturn, planet responsible for sorrow. India saw numerous incidents of bad omen like 26 January 2001(Earthquake) 26 July 2005( Mumbai flood) 26 November 2008( Mumbai Terrorist Attacks)
I'm from India so I've heard of this incident (I was only a couple months old when this happened so no recollection) but never knew the specifics. I'm happy that the ATC did as required and was recognized for that. The last thing I'd want is to be blamed for 346 deaths even though I did everything right and someone else didn't follow instructions correctly. I guess we will never know what happened in that 5 person cabin that led to a communication breakdown, but that is deadly. We could only hope that lack of communication would no longer be a factor but human nature tells me that will never happen. Also, the airspace issue and bureaucratic delays for the radar system are just terrible on the part of the Indian govt and military
I agree it kind of serves the purpose of rubbing off the shoulder as “not our problem” “instructions given but someone didn’t follow”. A greater relief would’ve been acknowledging that the country as a whole was responsible for this, if not just the pilots. A focus on the level of corruption must be done here. Indira Gandhi International Airport did not have secondary surveillance radar. Not because it didn’t exists. It was year 1996. 90% of world, even 3rd world countries had this advanced radar. This radar provides extra information, such as the aircraft's identity and altitude, by reading transponder signals. Had it been there, the controller would’ve got an alert on his terminal as soon as planes breached the assigned altitude. The radar hardware was physically present in india. The bureaucracy and shameless corruption of Indian govt at that time, is majorly responsible for the death of these folks. After all, it is true, that had they been flying elsewhere in the world, they’d have been alive. They are only dead coz this happened over a corrupt country’s airspace
@@lemonflavorclorox7389 yes correct, actually bi directional air space was already approved but was stuck in red tapeism. Also secondary radar was approved but not installed... Agree wr had failed as a system.. of course most likely kzhakasthan aircraft pilot made mistake too. But we failed as a system. Having said that lesson learnt..we were one of the 1st to make TCAS mandatory for all indian civilian aircraft after this .. hopefully this never repeats
@@2002georgezacharia I agree with you. Wasn’t expected of Khazak flight to descend that much too. Especially when it’s only and only one corridor for arrivals and departures. TCAS, was made mandatory first in USA in the year 1987. It was following a mid air collision in California in 1986. It was made mandatory via Public Law 100-223, also known as Airport and Airway Safety act
@@hinglajsankrothThe military reserved so much airspace that there was only a small corridor by which planes had to both enter and leave. It's on all - the govt, the military and the airport authority to at least provide 2 routes, 1 for entry and 1 for exit, to the airport, especially at possibly the busiest airport in all of India at that time. It may have made sense in an active warzone, but Delhi hasn't been under that level of threat in a long time and any war with Pakistan would first happen at the border, not Delhi.
I follow multiple channels covering aviation incidents and have spent quite some hours browsing Wikipedia-articles about air crashes, yet I believe this is the first time I've ever heard about this one...
I just recently viewed an episode on this incident on On the Move/Wonder/Mayday-I lump these 3 channels together because they seem to share content, and I can’t remember which one exactly I saw it on. Of course, this channel doesn’t engage in the kind of over-dramatization that those channels do, but they did have interviews with the USAF pilot who witnessed the orange cloud and with ATC Dhutta.
Hi, I’ve just found your channel (as an aviation nerd) and I think you are doing a fantastic job IMO far better than mainstream ‘air disaster’ programmes. Firstly I will commend you on giving just the right amount of technical and meteorological information - stuff that I can understand anyway! Secondly your excellent use of graphics (both instrument boards and flight senarios), I really appreciate that you do not show gratuitous explosions in your reconstructions. This leads me to say that I think you come across as being very respectful to all the poor people who have lost their lives in air disasters (I lost a very good friend in a plane crash - Kathmandu - Pakistan Airlines Flight 268 in 1992) Your choice of background music is so fitting - many mainstream programmes use climax building, action movie music which I find disrespectful and distasteful. I appreciate the time count that you give for cockpit recordings - all of them are deeply distressing, but some are worse than others - I have certainly forwarded through a couple of them. Please keep up the good work that you do👍
There was a helicopter crash in India yesterday which killed 13 people including the chief of defence staff of the country.. This is the first time I am closely following such a devastating accident which is so close to home.
Thank you for another quality video! Bless the souls of those who parished in the collision. Crew of 5... imagine how a little CRM could've gone a long way. Tu 154 generally doesn't require crew of 5 to operate, unless it's military or navigation is ancient on a given plane. IL 62, however does.
I just have to say you're the best air accident channel on RUclips. Your narration and writing are easy to grasp; your visuals are on point, down to the simulations and pictures you show. Thank you for giving us so much content!
Great job on this air accident! I remember hearing about this right after it happened but didn't know about all the information on it. Thank you for your hardwork!
There were actually 289 passengers and 23 crew on Saudia 763, and in regards to the collision, I believe you meant to say left-hand engines of Saudia 763, not right-hand engines.
Great episode as always! I have some kind of suggestion - how about airplane 101 series? Personally, I'm well interested and deep in this matter, but I think a lot of the viewers do not know everything about this, which is actually very helpful for even better understanding of the videos. You explain some of the basics and mechanics in each episode, but a whole separate episode or series would be really mesmerizing - explaining how actually planes fly, flaps, ailerons, jet engines, runways, wing force, etc. - all details explained in 1/2/3 episodes. I think everyone would be eager to watch such videos.
my mom and her friend were supposed to be on that flight as flight attendants but some problems happened and they ended up being replaced .. unfortunately they knew all the crew from that flight both cabin and flight .. they're still grieving till this day
Hey DBD, if you haven't already, how about Lauda Air Flight 004? 767 in Thailand being the first aircraft accident caused by thrust reverser, and the first crash of a 767-300.
The ATC officer VK Dutta was back on duty after 3 days and went on to retire as one of the highest official of Airport Authority of India the ANSP In India..
I was 22 and I clearly remember the Indian news channels flashing photographs of the disaster. It was gut wrenching. I remember reading the newspaper the next day that stated that a few people survived but died shortly after. In fact i distinctly remember reading that one person walked/crawled some distance near the Charki Dadri village before dropping dead. This was apparently reported by a villager.
Thank you for upload this video. I really waiting for this one. Since I curious only heard about the Saudia's pilot story days before his death. رحمهم الله
Yes. Tcas wont be wrong. But the problem is that. The other pilot does not know what the Atc told the pilots of the other aircraft. Just like what happened in Dhl mid air collision that happened in germany. 😥
My elder brother too lost his life in this crash.😭😭😭. Aaj bhi Charkhi Dadri ka naam sunke dil Saham jata hai.. sab yadein saamne a jati hain. Mere bhai ki body to sahi salamat mili aur 2-3 din ke baad ghar pahunchi thi...Kahte hain ki kuch log zinda they aur agar jaldi help/traeatment mil jati to shayad kuch log (4-6) bach jaate...sardi ka time aur wo bhi raat aur 30 saal pahle pata nahi kya suvidha rahi hogi... But ab to batein hain aur yadein hi hain. 😭
I've been loving your channel! I was wondering if you could cover Northwest flight 255 because I actually live in Metro Detroit and took off from the same airport that fated plane took off from. I had no idea about it when I flew last (it was my first time since I was 5) and it's such a tragic story, with the sole survivor being a little girl.
Thank you for emphasizing VK Dutta’s correct handling correct handling of this situation. I hope he found peace in the years following this terrible event.
1. If VK Dutta had secondary radar, he would’ve warned the Kazakh pilot 2. If the Kazakh radio operator clarified with the crew & ATC, the Kazakh plane wouldn’t have descended pass 15,000 ft 3. If TCAS was installed on either planes, they would’ve had warning. Unfortunately, the “holes” aligned and the accident wasn’t stopped
i think it'd be relatively interesting if you did these kind of breakdowns revolving peacetime martime disasters, although i'm not sure if there's a lot to talk about there
Actually it was collision between Kazakh airlines and Saudi airlines the Kazakh airlines pilots was not fluent in English language because back in Soviet Union most of pilots standard language was Russian not English even after 1991 new country Kazakh pilots were used speak Russian and Indian air controllers also complained that the Kazakhstani pilots sometimes confused their calculations because they are accustomed to using metre altitudes and kilometre distances, while most other countries use feet and nautical miles respectively for aerial navigation
A focus on the level of corruption must be done here. Indira Gandhi International Airport did not have secondary surveillance radar. Not because it didn't exists. It was year 1996. 90% of world, even 3rd world countries had this advanced radar. This radar provides extra information, such as the aircraft's identity and altitude, by reading transponder signals. Had it been installed there, the controller would've got an alert on his terminal as soon as planes breached the assigned altitude. Here is the kicker. That sophisticated new radar hardware was physically present in india.. but NOT INSTALLED for years due to red tape and bureaucracy of the govt. The bureaucracy and shameless corruption of Indian govt at that time, is majorly responsible for the death of these folks. After all, it is true, that had they been flying elsewhere in the world, they'd have been alive. They are only dead coz this happened over a corrupt country's airspace
TheFlightChannel did that one and it is absolutely thrilling and terrifying at the same time. Definitely among his best work to date. You can check it out here⤵ ruclips.net/video/WG7FAwyUHHo/видео.html
While the chances of it happening near or above a busy airport are likely orders of magnitude higher than above a random spot above earth that features air flight, the chances of a mid-air collision must be miniscule.
When you asked me to try and put myself in that air traffic controllers shoes I know I never could but all I can really feel is my heart drop shock I feel like my first thoughts might be that it must be a glitch right maybe trying to call one before the full realization sinks in. But I've never been trained in this field so Idk if it seems like a realistic reaction
Your opening statement is slightly inaccurate. This is technically the 3rd most deadly aviation accident (but the most deadly midair) in aviation history. So sad that just proper communication could have saved all these lives...
Hey, DB (or anyone else with knowledge of aviation standards), 'unanimously unfavorable'...can you elaborate? As I understand it aviation uses imperial units because modern flight kind of started in the US. Are miles and feet more favorable units due to legacy or is there another intrinsic property of imperial units that makes them more 'proper' to use?
Imperial units are more of less used because of legacy and because it would be too complicated to switch, aviation is international so it’s no surprise that all countries are nowadays using imperial for aviation
It helps to use different units for different things. So short distances in EASA are measured in m fir runway visual range and ft for altitude. Miles for distance but km fir visibility. These mixed units reduce confusion since the unit reinforces the quantity being talked about.
Geez! The kazakhstani flight was also numbered 1907! Being a brazillian, this flight number totally clickbaited me. This Ilyushin plane is pretty similar to the brazillian KC390, a military jet made by Embraer.
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Well done i love this videos keep it Up
I wonder what his new “big video” is
There's another why the Soviets required five crew members to fly their planes.. This was to prevent only one or two pilots to get it into their heads to defect. Also, the IL-76 was designed initially to be a bomber, hence the glass nose.
Just a correction. There were 289 passengers and 23 crew onboard Saudia - Saudi Arabian Airlines Flight SVA763.
This is a crazy high quality channel on such a niche topic
Yes, I lost my brother on the Saudi plane. He was about to get married, and he was the only person who did not find his body. They used to take some of the bodies in bags, to the point that we searched the dentists’ records to see if the remaining bodies belonged to him or not. Unfortunately, we did not find, instead of That’s because our lives have changed from that moment until now. For me, I travel a lot, and whenever I start taking off or landing, I remember those situations well. I move from one country to another. I don’t tell my mother when I travel but when I arrive, and also when I return I don’t tell her until I arrive, pray for them. All have mercy.
الله يغفر لأخوك ويرحمه ويجبر مصابكم 🌹
I'm very sorry
I'm sorry for the loss of your brother he's in a better place than we are I hope the best for you and your family
Sorry for your troubles
I'm sorry for your loss
Not fun fact: initially, there were 2 survivors on Saudi 763 and 4 survivors in Kazakh 1907 (including the F/O) but they all died shortly after
Yes ..I remember very clearly the news report telling this ( I was in 6th but clearly remember this and my dad telling it's a miracle that someone survived this ) later I guess they died after reaching hospital .... but I don't see any news report for this now...can you share
@@2002georgezacharia then we find out from the creator of this channel that people surviving plane crashes is actually normal and common and my only guess is since a lot of the wrecks happen near land people get out and survive maybe. im still confused about it, its very counter intuitive
@@lowlowseesee the shock ( in a good sense I mean ) was over survivors was mainly related to this crash, this mid air collision was extremely horrific (many bodies were not recovered and many undetected. Most likely the early survivors would be on the Il-76 I assume as it had some fly ability till the end, Almost all bodies in the Saudi 747 were charred beyond recognition ( most only identified by DNA tests)
IN such an accident even having people initially survive sounds a (miracle :)
How would they possibly survive dropping out of the sky
@@lowlowseesee In incidents where some semblance of control is maintained all the way to the ground, let's call it the distinction between a "crash landing" and just a "crash", a surprising percentage of people usually survive the initial impact with the ground. Unfortunately aircraft also happen to be flying gas tanks, and it's usually the ensuing smoke/fire that claims the majority of those who might've survived otherwise.
Outside of crash landings, people have also survived far more "impossible" scenarios too, of course. Vesna Vulović, a flight attendant aboard JAT 370, survived not only the detonation of a bomb on board and subsequent midair breakup of the aircraft, but also the 33,000 foot free fall that came immediately after. 4 people, including 2 children, survived after JAL 123 slammed into a mountainside at ~340 knots in Japan. It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility that there were survivors, at least initially, from this incident as well.
If I remember correctly, the “witness” was a U.S. Air Force Transport crew who were on a humanitarian relief mission. The ATC asked them if they saw anything. They first reported the flames in the clouds, and later described seeing 2 distinct flaming trails falling to earth. They also went into “defense” mode assuming that missiles were involved. At least until it became clear that what they saw was a 2 plane collision. I’m always kind of amazed at how unknown this crash is? To me it actually seems worse than Tenerife. I mean yes Tenerife technically had greater loss of life. But Tenerife also had a surprisingly high number of survivors. Whereas this one was 2 full passenger airliners with a complete loss of life.
84 of 650? ☠️
True
Yes, so horrific and not at all so well known.
Hopefully the Russians have modernized their systems on this plane, 37 years later. And India not modernizing their radar at the time is inexcusable. These are perfect examples why I will never travel to or from India, Russia or China.
@@23727bgk Indian airports got modernized rightly after the collision. Now all Indian airports are in good condition.
I’ve always considered this particular crash to be one of the more unknown + underreported aeroplane disasters.
I’ve anticipating in hope you would one day cover this one, and true to form you not only deliver the goods but surpass all benchmarks yet again. Thank you so much for the ongoing detail and uniqueness you bring to this particular YT community! ✌🏼
Thanks so much!
Im stunned that I have not heard of this one... mid air collisions are probably the most popular topic for ACI shows. Weird.
@@jetsetradio5441 I heard about it years ago through either Air Crash Investigation/Mayday or Seconds From Disaster. Just a horrible situation, can't imagine what the crews/passengers went through.
@@jetsetradio5441 I remember seeing this accident as Breaking news on tv when I was young
We hear alot about Swissair 111 and Malaysia 370 but we never hear about what went wrong for this accident
Cannot begin to imagine the effect this had on the ATC controller. I hope that he recovered from such a traumatic experience.
He was cleared after the investigation and went on to have a lengthy career as a controller. After he retired and became a trainer for young controllers in India. At least this was what the mayday TV show described. He (VK dutta) appeared on the episode and was there as an interviewee.
@@DeltaBravoTango Thanks for the information, good to hear that he had a successful career.
Hearing "Aloft" by Lemmino in the beginning made me so happy. I'm glad you know of/enjoy Lemmino. Huge props to him for allowing people to freely use his music (with credit)
I love Lemmino's work. Being a musician myself I find that composition to be perfect for this kind of atmosphere.
Not to mention his RUclips videos are probably some of the best made videos on the website
I remember when he used to do rage comics back in the day
Thanks for the info. I will have to go download it now.❤️❤️❤️
Double props. 👍
High quality, detailed explanation and an overall incredible video. I expected no less! Honestly you deserve so many more subscribers, and it sucks that the channel is not too well known. Keep working on those sponsorships and you’ll get there!
Thanks for the support
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See if you could be a guest on Mentour Pilot. He has guests and Mentour has over 1 million subscribers. His videos are presented in a different format than your platform more technical for new and existing pilots for the most part. I am not either just a fan as I am of yours.
See if you could be a guest on Mentour Pilot. He has guests and Mentour has over 1 million subscribers. His videos are presented in a different format than your platform more technical for new and existing pilots for the most part. I am not either just a fan as I am of yours.
These videos are super interesting. Waiting for them every week. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you my friend! I'm flying today and I'd be creeped out if I didn't see your upload first. Keep 'em coming!😎
would be so heartbreaking listening to the black box recording on this breakdown your very underrated as a youtube channel quality video as always so horrible this disaster tho :(
It’s crazy how two different airlines numbers 1907 both crashed in mid air collisions
Yep that’s what I said and yea it’s crazy..
I’m a new subscriber and saw this channel for the first time when I woke up a few minutes ago to find this video playing. I frequently use RUclips as a “sleeping pill” and fall asleep watching one video, waking up to some randomness in the morning. What a great channel this is! I subscribe to other airplane disaster channels but hadn’t come across this one, nor had I heard of this tragic collision. As someone said, it seems very under reported. The narration and the simulation here are brilliant and I’m happy to think I will now be a regular viewer. Well done on a great presentation and I wish you all the best, as this channel deserves to grow!
i clicked on this vid bc i enjoy learning about disasters/crashes and i’m a kazakhstani. i wasn’t disappointed, keep up the good work!
also thank you for getting kazakhstan’s (english) pronunciation right. i’ve heard too many people call it kuh-ZACH-i-stan years lmao
I will never understand why this channel doesn't have more subs, with the detail and quality of the content.
Its New... Maybe that's why
Apparently the number 1907 for flights is cursed. Two flights with the same number, 10 years apart, were involved in mid-air collisions, with tragic results...
Sounds like flights 191
Just wait until you hear about the curse of flight number 191
I've sharted more times than that - I wonder if my bunghole's cursed ? Wouldn't surprise me.
@@mordokch we are not in dire need of your gastric reconnaissance at this point in time.
1+9+0+7= 8. According to numerology it’s the number of Saturn, planet responsible for sorrow. India saw numerous incidents of bad omen like 26 January 2001(Earthquake) 26 July 2005( Mumbai flood) 26 November 2008( Mumbai Terrorist Attacks)
I'm from India so I've heard of this incident (I was only a couple months old when this happened so no recollection) but never knew the specifics. I'm happy that the ATC did as required and was recognized for that. The last thing I'd want is to be blamed for 346 deaths even though I did everything right and someone else didn't follow instructions correctly. I guess we will never know what happened in that 5 person cabin that led to a communication breakdown, but that is deadly. We could only hope that lack of communication would no longer be a factor but human nature tells me that will never happen. Also, the airspace issue and bureaucratic delays for the radar system are just terrible on the part of the Indian govt and military
I agree it kind of serves the purpose of rubbing off the shoulder as “not our problem” “instructions given but someone didn’t follow”. A greater relief would’ve been acknowledging that the country as a whole was responsible for this, if not just the pilots. A focus on the level of corruption must be done here. Indira Gandhi International Airport did not have secondary surveillance radar. Not because it didn’t exists. It was year 1996. 90% of world, even 3rd world countries had this advanced radar. This radar provides extra information, such as the aircraft's identity and altitude, by reading transponder signals. Had it been there, the controller would’ve got an alert on his terminal as soon as planes breached the assigned altitude.
The radar hardware was physically present in india. The bureaucracy and shameless corruption of Indian govt at that time, is majorly responsible for the death of these folks.
After all, it is true, that had they been flying elsewhere in the world, they’d have been alive. They are only dead coz this happened over a corrupt country’s airspace
@@lemonflavorclorox7389 yes correct, actually bi directional air space was already approved but was stuck in red tapeism. Also secondary radar was approved but not installed... Agree wr had failed as a system.. of course most likely kzhakasthan aircraft pilot made mistake too. But we failed as a system.
Having said that lesson learnt..we were one of the 1st to make TCAS mandatory for all indian civilian aircraft after this .. hopefully this never repeats
@@2002georgezacharia I agree with you. Wasn’t expected of Khazak flight to descend that much too. Especially when it’s only and only one corridor for arrivals and departures.
TCAS, was made mandatory first in USA in the year 1987. It was following a mid air collision in California in 1986. It was made mandatory via Public Law 100-223, also known as Airport and Airway Safety act
What about military ? It was bureaucratic delay
@@hinglajsankrothThe military reserved so much airspace that there was only a small corridor by which planes had to both enter and leave. It's on all - the govt, the military and the airport authority to at least provide 2 routes, 1 for entry and 1 for exit, to the airport, especially at possibly the busiest airport in all of India at that time. It may have made sense in an active warzone, but Delhi hasn't been under that level of threat in a long time and any war with Pakistan would first happen at the border, not Delhi.
Eery how both Kazakh 1907 and Gol 1907 had the exact same flight number and were both involved in mid air collisons
Yess... Omg what a scary thing
And they were going in opposite directions
I've been binging these videos for days, and I really appreciate how informative and well researched they are. Thank you for making them!
I follow multiple channels covering aviation incidents and have spent quite some hours browsing Wikipedia-articles about air crashes, yet I believe this is the first time I've ever heard about this one...
I just recently viewed an episode on this incident on On the Move/Wonder/Mayday-I lump these 3 channels together because they seem to share content, and I can’t remember which one exactly I saw it on. Of course, this channel doesn’t engage in the kind of over-dramatization that those channels do, but they did have interviews with the USAF pilot who witnessed the orange cloud and with ATC Dhutta.
Hi, I’ve just found your channel (as an aviation nerd) and I think you are doing a fantastic job IMO far better than mainstream ‘air disaster’ programmes. Firstly I will commend you on giving just the right amount of technical and meteorological information - stuff that I can understand anyway! Secondly your excellent use of graphics (both instrument boards and flight senarios), I really appreciate that you do not show gratuitous explosions in your reconstructions. This leads me to say that I think you come across as being very respectful to all the poor people who have lost their lives in air disasters (I lost a very good friend in a plane crash - Kathmandu - Pakistan Airlines Flight 268 in 1992) Your choice of background music is so fitting - many mainstream programmes use climax building, action movie music which I find disrespectful and distasteful. I appreciate the time count that you give for cockpit recordings - all of them are deeply distressing, but some are worse than others - I have certainly forwarded through a couple of them. Please keep up the good work that you do👍
There was a helicopter crash in India yesterday which killed 13 people including the chief of defence staff of the country.. This is the first time I am closely following such a devastating accident which is so close to home.
Thank you for another quality video! Bless the souls of those who parished in the collision. Crew of 5... imagine how a little CRM could've gone a long way. Tu 154 generally doesn't require crew of 5 to operate, unless it's military or navigation is ancient on a given plane. IL 62, however does.
I just have to say you're the best air accident channel on RUclips. Your narration and writing are easy to grasp; your visuals are on point, down to the simulations and pictures you show. Thank you for giving us so much content!
Great job on this air accident! I remember hearing about this right after it happened but didn't know about all the information on it. Thank you for your hardwork!
There were actually 289 passengers and 23 crew on Saudia 763, and in regards to the collision, I believe you meant to say left-hand engines of Saudia 763, not right-hand engines.
Great episode as always! I have some kind of suggestion - how about airplane 101 series? Personally, I'm well interested and deep in this matter, but I think a lot of the viewers do not know everything about this, which is actually very helpful for even better understanding of the videos. You explain some of the basics and mechanics in each episode, but a whole separate episode or series would be really mesmerizing - explaining how actually planes fly, flaps, ailerons, jet engines, runways, wing force, etc. - all details explained in 1/2/3 episodes. I think everyone would be eager to watch such videos.
yeah I watch this channel since years and I still have to look up a lot
You're great! Keep up the *GOOD WORK!!*
Ayyyyyyy I've been asking for this for a while. Thank you so much my man you rock!
great video as always! this video was especially interesting rest in peace to those who died
Another stellar video about a less commonly discussed accident. Great job as always dude! 👍
my mom and her friend were supposed to be on that flight as flight attendants but some problems happened and they ended up being replaced .. unfortunately they knew all the crew from that flight both cabin and flight .. they're still grieving till this day
May they be together in heaven, God is good
Every Saturday I'm so excited for your video! Great work so keep going! 💪🏻
Hey DBD, if you haven't already, how about Lauda Air Flight 004? 767 in Thailand being the first aircraft accident caused by thrust reverser, and the first crash of a 767-300.
Myron I think she has it on her playlist?
@khoileanh402shut up
Excellent video, well documented and narrated.
I hope the traffic controller didn’t get into any strife over this. It seems like he did all he could with the resources given.
Legit checked the channel 1,2 minutes ago
And directly clicked when i saw this
Strange, I don't remember ever hearing of this crash, though it happened after the JAL crash and Tenerife collision, which made world-wide news.
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@@realhumphreyappleby JAL is japan and ternerife is spain.
Excellent! Your narration is fantastic...you explained every thing in great detail! Thank you for sharing and I just subscribed!!
The ATC officer VK Dutta was back on duty after 3 days and went on to retire as one of the highest official of Airport Authority of India the ANSP In India..
Well he didn't do anything wrong so.......
Well, it wasn't his fault, so.....
Initially when it happened he left his position & had ran away.
So ?
that prayer really hit me man الله يرحمهم
Yeah he said Shahada
May God welcome all who died home
What a coincedence, I told you in another upload from you about this incident. Thanks for sharing :)
I hope you know you make many peoples days better. Keep up the amazing content
You make such good content! You deserve more subs and everything!😄 I wish you the best
Nice to watch while flying out of Delhi. Jokes aside, great video and breakdown.
"Mom left me at BestBuy" gets me everytime.
I was 22 and I clearly remember the Indian news channels flashing photographs of the disaster. It was gut wrenching. I remember reading the newspaper the next day that stated that a few people survived but died shortly after. In fact i distinctly remember reading that one person walked/crawled some distance near the Charki Dadri village before dropping dead. This was apparently reported by a villager.
I can't wait for this channel to blow up.
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@@5thdawg917😂😂..blow up means.getting More subs and views and so on.😂😂
Thank you for upload this video. I really waiting for this one. Since I curious only heard about the Saudia's pilot story days before his death. رحمهم الله
when you hear "climb.....climb now. climb....climb now" as a pilot, you ignore whatever you were told to do and CLIMB. TCAS isnt wrong, listen to it.
Yes. Tcas wont be wrong. But the problem is that. The other pilot does not know what the Atc told the pilots of the other aircraft. Just like what happened in Dhl mid air collision that happened in germany. 😥
The 90s were a terrible time to fly. Loving your videos. Watching from Portugal 🇵🇹
0:22 2:50 3:12 7:43 747 Looks fabulous With that sunset
your videos are phenomenal mate. really well done
Great video. I hope you will make a video about the mid-air collision between the USAF C-141 and Luftwaffe TU-154M over the coast of Namibia
My elder brother too lost his life in this crash.😭😭😭. Aaj bhi Charkhi Dadri ka naam sunke dil Saham jata hai.. sab yadein saamne a jati hain.
Mere bhai ki body to sahi salamat mili aur 2-3 din ke baad ghar pahunchi thi...Kahte hain ki kuch log zinda they aur agar jaldi help/traeatment mil jati to shayad kuch log (4-6) bach jaate...sardi ka time aur wo bhi raat aur 30 saal pahle pata nahi kya suvidha rahi hogi... But ab to batein hain aur yadein hi hain. 😭
I've been loving your channel! I was wondering if you could cover Northwest flight 255 because I actually live in Metro Detroit and took off from the same airport that fated plane took off from. I had no idea about it when I flew last (it was my first time since I was 5) and it's such a tragic story, with the sole survivor being a little girl.
Thank you for emphasizing VK Dutta’s correct handling correct handling of this situation. I hope he found peace in the years following this terrible event.
Yessss!!!! Love your videos! I changed my pfp and name so idk if you recognize me lol. My old name was ‘Heather Bourkovski’
I would have liked to hear more about the aftermath! Who was blamed? What happened to the poor ATC?
Incident report concluded that it was Kazakhstani pilot fault . ATC was cleared of any responsibility
Fantastic video!
Glad you found it interesting
1. If VK Dutta had secondary radar, he would’ve warned the Kazakh pilot
2. If the Kazakh radio operator clarified with the crew & ATC, the Kazakh plane wouldn’t have descended pass 15,000 ft
3. If TCAS was installed on either planes, they would’ve had warning.
Unfortunately, the “holes” aligned and the accident wasn’t stopped
If there were no clouds, they could have seen and there was a possibility of avoidance. It was just a bad bad day.
@@sd-wm1sq Well, you’re not wrong
The tcas, secondary radar and betterment of communication were all implemented throughout the country and the world after this accident.
Where do know from, that the Il-76 actually has climed after the collision?
The episode is very good explained as always.
Blackboxes?
Also radar would indicate this.
You best bet that I’m taking myself into a corner on Xmas day to watch the vid!
i think it'd be relatively interesting if you did these kind of breakdowns revolving peacetime martime disasters, although i'm not sure if there's a lot to talk about there
for the capital city of one of the world's large economies to not have secondary radar in the 1990s...mind boggling.
Totally
"If they would've done nothing...." seems like a common theme in these videos. Is it lack of training or just them getting too comfortable?
11:00 what a bad decision, it should be obvious that metric units are the by far better ones
Loved this video! ❤️😄
Actually it was collision between Kazakh airlines and Saudi airlines the Kazakh airlines pilots was not fluent in English language because back in Soviet Union most of pilots standard language was Russian not English even after 1991 new country Kazakh pilots were used speak Russian and
Indian air controllers also complained that the Kazakhstani pilots sometimes confused their calculations because they are accustomed to using metre altitudes and kilometre distances, while most other countries use feet and nautical miles respectively for aerial navigation
Excellent as always.
Two pieces of matter trying to occupy the same space.
I love these videos please keep them up
2:39 Fabulous take off
love the video!
i know this incident due to the place of the accident being 2 hrs from my place and yeah this was the most tragic incident ever in india
Bhopal gas leak seems like it was much worse
@@kvltizt true but if you see from a aviation disaster point of view this is by far the worst
@@kvltizt boxing day tsunami was worse.
A focus on the level of corruption must be done here. Indira Gandhi International Airport did not have secondary surveillance radar. Not because it didn't exists. It was year 1996. 90% of world, even 3rd world countries had this advanced radar. This radar provides extra information, such as the aircraft's identity and altitude, by reading transponder signals. Had it been installed there, the controller would've got an alert on his terminal as soon as planes breached the assigned altitude.
Here is the kicker. That sophisticated new radar hardware was physically present in india.. but NOT INSTALLED for years due to red tape and bureaucracy of the govt.
The bureaucracy and shameless corruption of Indian govt at that time, is majorly responsible for the death of these folks.
After all, it is true, that had they been flying elsewhere in the world, they'd have been alive. They are only dead coz this happened over a corrupt country's airspace
Well said
Very good video!
Please do a video about the Chapecoense incident on flight LaMia
Great video by disaster breakdown yet again
Thanks!
That Il 76 is gorgeous 😍
It's ugly
@@jaggerfoxland8103l you're entitled to your wrong opinion.
Very interesting. Good work.
The convertion of Feet to meters happened because the captain's altimeter was set to show it in meters instead of Feet
Do Saudia flight 163!
Yes! It's one of the most deadlieat underreported air accident and has not been covered much in the media
I wonder if this guy did a video on the Grand Canyon Mid Air Collision
TheFlightChannel did that one and it is absolutely thrilling and terrifying at the same time. Definitely among his best work to date. You can check it out here⤵
ruclips.net/video/WG7FAwyUHHo/видео.html
I'm curious, but where is your accent from? I can't place it.
I'm from Newcastle, North East England
While the chances of it happening near or above a busy airport are likely orders of magnitude higher than above a random spot above earth that features air flight, the chances of a mid-air collision must be miniscule.
Next do air france flight 358 a airbus a340-300 or Germanwings 9525 or twa flight 2 collision with united over the grand conyan
Take it easy one video every saturday
How about being polite ?
@@alicelopes4693 yes that is what im saing
So the 747 Involved was a 100 Series? Incredible it didn't suffer a centre wing fuel tank explosion like another 747 did only 1 month prior
Love your videos! May I ask, are you of Indian decent? Just curious. 🙂
Hi, thanks for the comment. I have no Indian heritage to answer your question :)
When you asked me to try and put myself in that air traffic controllers shoes I know I never could but all I can really feel is my heart drop shock I feel like my first thoughts might be that it must be a glitch right maybe trying to call one before the full realization sinks in. But I've never been trained in this field so Idk if it seems like a realistic reaction
Your opening statement is slightly inaccurate. This is technically the 3rd most deadly aviation accident (but the most deadly midair) in aviation history. So sad that just proper communication could have saved all these lives...
Thank you
1996 remains the worst year for fatalities and major crashes for aviation in nearly 40 years. This was one of two 747s lost that year.
Hey, DB (or anyone else with knowledge of aviation standards), 'unanimously unfavorable'...can you elaborate? As I understand it aviation uses imperial units because modern flight kind of started in the US. Are miles and feet more favorable units due to legacy or is there another intrinsic property of imperial units that makes them more 'proper' to use?
Imperial units are more of less used because of legacy and because it would be too complicated to switch, aviation is international so it’s no surprise that all countries are nowadays using imperial for aviation
It helps to use different units for different things. So short distances in EASA are measured in m fir runway visual range and ft for altitude. Miles for distance but km fir visibility. These mixed units reduce confusion since the unit reinforces the quantity being talked about.
Geez! The kazakhstani flight was also numbered 1907! Being a brazillian, this flight number totally clickbaited me.
This Ilyushin plane is pretty similar to the brazillian KC390, a military jet made by Embraer.
Good video. But I would have liked to have seen the collision sequence and subsequent crashes more thoroughly detailed.
Something like that isn’t possible in the flight simulator
Weird I haven't heard of this crash before
Really good thank
I’ve sub not normal like but this is great ty RESPECT YOU
This was the third worst crash in aviation history
I had never heard of this until now. The 349 victims didn't deserve to die in such a brutal fashion! ☹️