Could They Have Saved The Plane? (Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 182) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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On September 25th 1978, PSA Flight 182 crash on approach into San Diego, the moment was immortalized in a striking image of the Boeing 727 crashing to the ground. The crash of Pacific Southwest Airlines 182 became the deadliest air accident to occur in the united states at that time.
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your video has similaritis to the episode of why planes crash colision corse
Do you think you'll make a video about the 1986 Cerritos mid air collision in the future? As well as the 1996 Charkhi Dadri mid air collision?
Can you make a video about TWA flight 800?
@@Blessan_ theres is 2 crashes with the name of TWA 800
Get rid of the ads and I will
My Dad worked for PSA and knew most all on the plane. He was also supposed to be on the flight but stayed in Bogota one more day on vacation. Didn't tell me that he had. I raced to the site that morning thinking I was visiting my Dads graveyard. When I got back home my grandmother told me he had called after hearing of the crash I couldn't have been more relieved. Thank God he's still here.
SO GLAD FOR YOU AND YOUR DAD THAT HE WASN'T ON 182 .
Crazy. What a blessing, I’ll bet he never saw life the same again after.
I am so glad that your personal heart break 💔 was relatively short lived, which I’m sure at the time did not feel short. I cannot imagine. Hugs!
I'm so glad for you, but your dad must have been devastated. He surely must have known the crew. When a crash happens, it rocks the whole industry, but it has a special effect on the airline.
Yeah good for you bro
That photo is definitely haunting me big time. Nothing like seeing a plane in a nosedive with its wing on fire. Those poor poor souls in there (not to mention the people on the ground when it eventually crashed).
@RGo I honestly don't want to. I may never sleep again. :(
@@djmoch1001 imagine the terror people experienced.
@@djmoch1001 Imagine the pain and sorrow, parents clutching their children in abject horror as they feel the plane rushing toward the ground, toward doom, with them stuck in it and no way out. Imagine all the regrets, the rage, the suffering, the trauma. The sick feelings in their stomachs as they know they only have seconds left to live out that torturous existence. Horrific. Terrifying.
@Ben P Your comment is super out of place
Yes looking at the photo, you can’t help but imagine what terror those poor people were feeling 😢 Let’s hope plane crashes will happen less and less. No one should go through this 🙏
My neighbor at the time was a roofer and he witnessed the crash , he was on a roof when he saw the plane going down and he said initially the jet was heading straight at them , it scared the crap out of him but fortunately it veered away.
He was also one of the witnesses interviewed by the news media.
It would be mind melting to see an airliner crashing. I fly small planes my father and I own a steen sky bolt and an old luscombe 8a and over the years we have had friends who crashed and have seen two of them personally and it is something that sticks out forever. Can’t imagine seeing an airliner.
@@alanluscombe8a553 ...... Yeah I was a little kid when he told us what happened and even as a child I still remember that he was pretty shook up by it.
Did he see anyone stealing shit at the crash site? I used to buy stuff from this guy who lived in north park and we would drive by the crash site and you can see what was fixed because the sidewalk and hkuses look newer than everything around it
@@eriktruchinskas3747 am I missing something? Someone stole things because the neighborhood was repaired?
@@alanluscombe8a553 I hear there’s going to be producing new luscombes soon
The idea of luck is so mystical… some people find a box of gold buried in their back yard…. Some people are minutes from landing and astonishingly have a mid air collision against 1/1,000,000,000 odds… and even worse…. Some people are sitting on their couch watching TV and a fxcking plane slams into their home…..
So weird man….
"Coincidence, if traced far enough back, becomes inevitable" - Jung.
“ And where some have found their paradise
Others just come to harm
Amelia, it was just a false alarm..”
Amelia ~ Joni Mitchell
@@isabellind1292 synchronicity.
someone wins a lotterry, someone jumps into water in egypt and get killed by shark...same odds. But with billions of people it happens sometimes
Fate is fickle and can turn on a dime. When the people boarded that plane in LA, I doubt any of them thought they had less than an hour to live. Nobody in North Park thought a plane would drop on them. Planes were going overhead so often they hardly paid 3:01 any attention. Suddenly being a block from home could be the difference between life and death. It still keeps me up at night 45 years later.
I met my ex-wife in November of 1978. She was late getting to Sacramento and missed this flight. I heard of this crash when I was in the Philippine Islands. She may be my ex but I'm glad she missed that flight.
“She may be my ex but I’m glad she missed that flight” is a funny sentence 😅
@@joshuatealeaves It's weird, but I can relate. My ex-wife was poison for me. There was very little about our 12-year marriage that was good (though I can't deny there were good times), but being in that kind of relationship with someone triggered a different set of standards for me. For better or worse, she was a part of me. I would have been devastated, even during the worst hell of our divorce.
@@joshuatealeaves In hindsight, maybe it would have better if she made the flight. 🤣🤣
Was your wife pretty?
If I remember correctly, they have a transcript of the cockpit and what exactly was being said. I've seen it a few times, but the one part that always stuck out to me was right before the crash. Apparently someone shouted, "Ma, I love ya!" and that still haunts me to see whenever I look at the transcript.
@Ben P Whats the point of being professional, you're gonna die, at least telling your loved ones you love them has a purpose
@Ben P oh yes by all means if she hadn’t said that nothing would have happened and they would be fine right? Whatever
@Ben P did you want them to say "We appear to be taking a severe nose dive and on the outlook it seems like we are about to hit the ground" or something?
"This is it, baby"
BEFORE CRASH
ATC:PSA 182 clear to land
Captain McFernon:182's clear to land
Captain McFernon:What have we got here baby
THEN COLLISION RECORDING
Captain McFernon: What have we got here
First Officer Fox:It's Bad
Captain McFernon:Huh?
First Officer Fox: We're hit man We are hit!
Captain McFernon:Tower we're going down this is PSA!
Lindenburgh Tower:Okay we'll call the equipment for you
Captain McFernon: This is it baby!
Unknown:Bob I love ya
Unknown:Whoo Bob!
(END OF RECORDING)
Notice the painted smile on the 727's "face"
PSA was an extremely happy airline.
The employees were more than happy to work there.
They celebrated each and every flight, especially if children were on board!
They handed out ALL of the available soft drinks and peanuts on board. Ice cream was on nearly every flight, and children were treated like royalty!
Anyone who wanted to tour the cockpit was welcomed and treated like precious customers and friends.
I was a pilot for another airline and was welcomed on board the jumpseat (or any other seat) anytime I wanted to!
I learned so much about customer service from PSA.
I was thinking the same thing when I seen the front of the plane. I said the smile on the plane made it sooo errie
I took PSA from Burbank to San Diego and back every weekend in 1974.
My uncle was on that PSA flight. So many lives were lost and destroyed that day. Some first responders never recovered.
I'm astounded that pilots in little planes were allowed to practice along runways used by big liners. I understand the concept but I'm floored that this could ever have been allowed to happen.
I was there when it happened. Literally, up and to the right of the car we were in. Once the plane collided, it immediately began to bank to the right. If there was a way to save it, I certainly couldn't see it. It went down in about 20-30 seconds. We never actually saw the other plane, unless it was the fireball we saw after a loud POP! It looked like engine debris, but burned a fuschia color, very intense, as white smoke trailed off. Seconds after it disappeared over Golden Hills, North Park, a black mushroom cloud appeared. It was and is still, surreal.
That must've been terrifying for you. Hope you're doing okay.
@lunabuna this happened 40 years ago and he was a spectator.2
@@cheesecake4648 Yes, I was 12, 8th grade, Parkway Junior High, in La Mesa, a suburb of San Diego.
@@elvinlewis4233how were you in 8th grade at 12
@@abatall 11 and 12 year Olds were in the 7th and 8th grade at that time in San Diego, I don't believe it's changed. Everyone in the school saw it too. I'm 59, do the math.
Working on the flight deck of the USS Kitty Hawk I witnessed the entire thing. So surreal and shocking. Many of my shipmates witnessed the crash with me because it was such a nice sunny day in San Diego. The PSA jet actually looked like it was going to head back toward Lindbergh Field while on fire. But then it went down toward what I thought was by Balboa Hospital from the angle. It actually crashed near my home North Park at the time, so people were not being let in the area. I'll never forget that day. So sad. Yes an that picture still haunts me to this day. Now I pray for every pilot and passenger flying the skies. Thank you for sharing this video. Pretty much spot on!
The one every San Diego resident remembers, even though I wasn’t alive my entire family always brings this one up. Great work breaking down this one
Since when can you speak for every resident of San Diego?
@@small_ed He does speak for every San Diegan. If you lived in San Diego, or if you had ties to San Diego, this crash affected you. Nobody in San Diego just shrugged this off. If you were familiar with San Diego you would know this. PSA was San Diego's airline. The sight of the smiling 727 hovering over the San Diego skyline was a ubiquitous sight. We all knew PSA and a lot of us had flown PSA. If you were flying anywhere within California back then, you flew PSA. The fare from San Diego to San Francisco was about $25. Many San Diegans had flown PSA, including me. The airline's headquarters was in San Diego. We had neighbors who worked at the airline. Many people either were employees or knew employees. San Diego in the 1970s still had a small town feel. We all knew PSA, and the community rallied in support. It was so easy to imagine the horror in that cabin for those seconds. If you were there, you would know that this was traumatic for the entire city and environs. Everybody in San Diego at the time can tell you exactly where they were and what they were doing on the morning of Monday September 25, 1978. It will be 45 years this year and every memory is as vivid as if it was yesterday. So yes, the original poster here was right. We who were there have every right to say the whole city was affected. We saw it with our own eyes. Have some respect.
@@pooryorick831 I hear ya' I was born in San D. This place was kickin' it in the day . PSA was the nations top new airline back then , innovative business model , friendly , sexy mini skirt stewardess.. KGB Homegrown, mojonixon , penetrators.
Oh' Yeah 😎👍
@small_ed yeah. My family has been in San Diego since the 50s. My grandpa flew out of Montgomery field. This story has been told numerous times.
@@awg9dogYep. You nailed. KGB was great. They brought us The Chicken. It was the KGB chicken at first, then it was the San Diego Chicken. Then it was just The Chicken. The original ballpark mascot. I lived in Solana Beach. It was a sleepy little beach town back then. Now I barely recognize it. I can't imagine any better place to be a kid than San Diego in the 1970s. We had the beach, we had the hills and gullies and canyons to run free in, and we had The Zoo. And SeaWorld. We went to The Zoo every couple months. I had no idea then that it was the best zoo in the world. It was practically in our backyard. And one of my most iconic memories is riding the Sky Tram at the zoo and looking out over Balboa Park. There was always a PSA jet floating above the trees as it came in for a landing at Lindbegh. I can still see that in my mind's eye to this day. The big pink and orange planes with smiles painted on would hang there as if floating in the air between the park and downtown. Iconic.
Your title asks if PSA could have saved the aircraft without making any effort to answer that question.
I thought he did but not in a direct way. He seem to say it was impossible due to the wing damaged and uncontrollable pitch down roll on that side.
@@DonnySath If the flight was in a sturdy and more lift-creating, Burnelli BWB all would have survived.
PSA Flight 182 has always been a crash that's particularly stood out to me for a variety of reasons, you did an excellent job covering it but that's not much of a surprise since your content is great. Would really be interested in seeing a video on Aeromexico Flight 498 even though you already mentioned it here, that one and PSA 182 are like "sister" crashs in a sense (for lack of a better word).
You’re right nearly the same thing happened,one of my uncle’s was on that Aeromexico flight and out of a final
destination scene my uncle was supposed to come Monday but decided to change his ticket for Sunday August 31 1986 the worst mistake he ever did that’s why till this day every time I go on a airplane I be having his accident on my mind,it was sad even though I was 6 1/2 when he died in that crash I still remember bits and pieces of him
Am I the only person that when I get my airline flight ticket look at my ticket and the flight number and wonder will my flight number become infamous...? I am not a frequent flyer but every time I get on an airplane I always look at my flight number and then immediately get nervous. Rip to all.🙏
Yep Jesse I'm exactly like you buddy.
Nope, never wanted to think about it before or during a flight.
I was an avid perpetual world traveler from 1960 to 1990. The good 'ole days ! Quit flying when airports, planes, passengers, hotels and crowds came aboard. After watching these videos of the complexity of planes, pilots, mechanics, maintenance and so on, am fortunate not to have been be aware of the horrendous consequences of catching the wrong flight
Interesting thing about flight 182. There have been 3 flight 182s that have crashed. In addition to PSA, Air India flight 182 crashed in 1985 after a bomb on board exploded. And there was a flight 182 that crashed in Indonesia in 2021. I will never get on a plane designated as flight 182 because of that. I'd be surprised if any airline uses that number again.
I always choose the window seat closest to the wing and always stare at the wing and ask myself how does it not break holding the weight of the engine/s.
I think stupid things and what I would do if the inevitable were to happen.
The first image is so horryfing. Imagine randomly seeing a Plane nosedive in the sky with one of its wings on fire? Truly terryfing. RIP to all of the poor souls there.
That picture of the plane on fire. Just makes me think about all the passengers who are sat inside it. Looking out at the fire and ground starting to rise quickly. At the moment of that photo then 144 people have just realised that they are going to die in seconds. Just an awful thought and just a total waste of life
this one is especially wild to me because it impacted my family directly in several ways. my mother was driving to college from el cajon on the 8. She remembers listening to the radio in the car where they were talking about some major Chargers news when she noticed the smoke on the horizon. My dad's cousin's house was destroyed, though her family wasn't at home at the time. My grandmother lost a friend in the plane and on the ground. My mom and dad told me about a dark joke from SD that came from this time, based on a radio station's call sign: 106.5. the original was 'nobody rocks san diego like kpri' and that soon turned into 'nobody rocks north park like psa'
Whoa, still too soon on the motto update
I was in Balboa Naval Hospital awaiting surgery on that day. Balboa is located between Lindbergh Field and the crash site. I heard the 727 hit. A very sad and preventable accident.
Rocky Balboa ?
I’ll bet you felt it also
Although I’ve seen this accident too this is the best breakdown channel out of all of them %100 keep up the great work
News of this collision hit me particularly hard at the time, as one of the passengers was a fellow I had worked with several years prior. He and his wife had spent years constructing a yacht that was to be used for their retirement cruise around the world. He was months away from retiring when he boarded the jet in LA for a quick business trip to San Diego.
He built a yacht? So he was rich?
@@Xvladin No, he was an engineer and craftsman whose hobby was to build a craft he could sale the world with in his retirement. He spent about 20 years doing that in his non-work hours.
@davidmclean4277 what kind of yacht are we talking about? Yachts and business trips sound fancy lol
@@Xvladin Yes very fancy. A working guy taking a commuter flight from LA to San Diego to consult with a vendor or customer of the company he was employed by. Get a life.
@davidmclean4277 I feel like there's some disconnect here.
Taking a commuter business flight *does* seem pretty fancy and rich (especially if hes doing it in these major cities) . And also owning a yacht is almost exclusively a rich person thing.
I'm glad you shared this information, as it's very interesting. I think we just disagree about what is and isn't "fancy" lol
The growth on the channel has been insane, much deserved keep up the great videos!
Couldn't agree more! Love the format and detail. Another brilliant but smaller channel is 3 greens
its not suprising, his videos are gold
RIP
Martin Kazy Jr.
(1946-1978)
David L. Bozwell
(1943-1978)
and
To the passengers and crew of Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 182 and the seven people on the ground
so hard to even imagine experiencing an air crash and then crash on the ground after that! From one second chillin watchin netflix to the next second inside a diving jet knowing you are going to disintegrate into nothing. jesus.
I work in the San Diego area and even to this day PSA 182 comes up from time to time. Truly tragic as there were so many “if onlys” here. Also one of my friends lived near here and I’ve driven by Dwight and Nile a few times.
My grandpa was a captain for PSA at this time. He lost quite a few friends in this crash.
I remember seeing the dark smoke headng out towards the ocean, on that warm, San Diego day, with the Santa Ana winds blowing.
That photo is incredible, and extremely unsettling. I've seen many disturbing things, having researched serial killers and visited the Parisian catacombs. I think its the grand tragedy of it that really gets me with plane accidents like this. Its just so unimaginably horrible.
Have you dug up a grave yet? Or witness an execution? You’d like that wouldn’t you?
As a pilot, I have probably benefitted from the "Big Sky" a few times over the years without knowing it. But this crash demonstrates that it's not a substitute for vigilant outside scans. I worked for the company that invented TCAS and it has been a great safety enabler. But GA airplanes still hit each other around uncontrolled airports, so look outside!!
they mentioned few reasons why it was very difficult for crew of B727 to spot that Cessna...
I remember very well when this happened. For me, this crash, along with Alaska Air 261, are the most terrifying crashes. This one because of the photo, and Alaska Air because of the cockpit voice recorder and ATC recordings.
It may be recency bias but for me the description and speculation of the passenger's deaths on the Nation air flight from last week's video was horrifying. And just thinking about it any cases where people fell out/off of planes (The Afghans who hung on to the landing gear of the military carrier from last month) or had to jump out of a skyscraper (9/11), those are horrifying.
There were probably people who probably should have went to prison in the Alaska Airlines crash.
For me it's Alaska 261 and USAir 427. The crash was so violent that, for the first time in NTSB history, the entire area was declared a biological hazard zone. Due to the amount of blood and carnage from 'fragmented' bodies. Evidently the largest piece recovered was a torso, but mostly it wasn't anything bigger than a hand or a foot. Over 6,000 remains, for 132 people. Actually haunting.
@@seventh-hydra Turkish 981 and PSA 1771 had pretty bag impacts as well. Some say that you can find fragments of bodies to this day on 981's crash site, absolutely terrifying
“Ma, I love you.” “Ah, here we go.”
Looking at that photo imagine the horror those people on that plane had as they had a little bit of time to surly see the ground getting closer and closer as the plane went down.
i used to live a block away from where the 727 crashed, there's a commemorative plaque at a library about a half mile away under a tree in North Park. very strange to walk on the exact street where it happened
Amazing video! It’s sad to see that such mid air collision could happen
Thanks!
we could definitely use someone that manages air traffic, to prevent accidents like this one. i'm thinking air traffic control, or ATC for short, has a nice ring to it eh?
Great video as usual! Keep up the good work!
Worth noting that the regulations at the time that placed the responsibility of safely overtaking the Cessna, by the PSA crew, were called "see and avoid". Essentially it was the job of the conveniently placed aircraft to see the traffic ahead and avoid it. This was sound safety logic when the regulations were established in roughly the WW2 Era. However; as technology advanced, and jet aircraft became commonplace in the skies, the VAST speed differential between aircraft eclipsed the bounds of reasonable safety. Too many accidents happened in a shot period of time essentially as a result of the blinding pace of advancing aviation technology. It's a microcosm of the "safety laws are often written in blood" situation
Oh baloney! See & avoid still applies, always! (As long as you’re not IMC!)
727 was my favorite to fly for years
Stupid to have small planes flying around major airports. Especially student pilots. San Diego Lindbergh field was considered the worst airport by passenger plane pilots. Accident repeated itself El Cerritos 1986. Aero-Mexico and small plane with family of 3 sliced tail off DC-9 everybody on both planes and many on the ground were killed.
It was a different time. Nowadays there is no more general aviation at Lindbergh field. In 1978 Lindbergh was the only airport in San Diego that had the beacons for instrument flying so they had to train there.
The site of the Aeromexico crash was Cerritos. You were confusing that will El Cerrito in the SF Bay Area. Don't mind me, I have a pathological need to correct facts when I have insomnia. 🙂☮️🇺🇸
We just had another small plane crash in a nearby neighborhood (Santee) on Oct 11th. It was all over the news. The guys in the plane died along with a UPS driver on the ground and two people in one of the houses that caught fire from the crash. Two people in a second house that caught fire survived, though they lost their dog in the fire.
A few houses caught the crash on their doorcams. They're still investigating the cause of the crash, but it was apparently mechanical problems.
EDIT: 4 months later, the cause of the crash is still unknown. All we know is the ground communicated with the pilot and told him numerous times to turn right and ascend. He gave repeated confirmations but stopped responding about a minute before he crashed. It probably isn't worth a full video on this channel, but I dunno, it's a big deal in San Diego. Big mystery.
And a couple months ago now we had a jet crash on approach to Gillespie, idk any info about the cause for that either, it sucks how many accidents we've had in just this past year
single pilot? maybe a medical issue? they should wear those oura rings that track health etc
I saw one picture of the aftermath and you can see one of the bodies; can’t really tell if it is male or female but can clearly see face, all charred. Nearly as disturbing as another crash ( I think it was in flight 587 in Queens) but it was news footage (unedited) showing huge section of burning fuselage and can clearly see one still strapped in/on seat, skeletonal remains in the fire.
Faces of death 1978 a documentary that shows the aftermath. Worst shit ive ever seen
I saw that too (the queens one) shit really bothered me. Also I know faces of death was mainly fake but was the psa thing real? I've seen it. Looks real
In this catastrophe a flight attendant's corpse slammed into a vehicle... not sure if it was the same body that cracked an automobile windshield as it fell from the sky. All EMS personal on those had severe life changing mental issues. RIP all💐
Will never forget this tragic day, working a few miles away at Cubic Corporation bordering Montgomery Field. Horrific!!! 🙏 RIP
Very clever that you posted it on the day it happened
It was an accident really. When I got round to this accident and looked at the calendar. That's when I noticed.
@@DisasterBreakdown that’s some great timing there! Great job on the video as always. by the way
The saddest part is the last words, and how happy the plane looked. :(
Those last words were; one pilot uttered “This is it baby”. Then another very casually said, “Mom I love ya”
Thank you, Chloe, for an excellent video about this collision.
I was approaching on our Continental B737 from Newark, NJ to SAN when I saw a Cessna aircraft flew below us, with good clearance, it reminded me of this air collision 😮
You always choose amazing background music and the videos are so well made! Totally underrated channel. Thank you for your hard work! RIP to all the casualties
Thank you for another excellent video DB!
Surprising that at the time small planes like the Cessna could use major airports for practice flights, seems like an accident waiting to happen. That photo is terrifying. RIP to all who died that day. I doubt the PSA pilots could have done anything to recover, the collision had caused too much damage.
My brother was born on this day. The plane crashed a few blocks away from our house in North Park, San Diego.
This one stands out so much because of how steep the impact was right in the heart of a residential neighborhood.
That alone explains why every one knows this one.
Of all the crashes in the world most end up in the ocean or wilderness mountains.
Its not every day you have an aircraft this size hit a suburb and throw bodies into people's homes.
I am honestly surprised it doesn't happen more often.
I never truly understood why so many run ways get centered by heavily populated areas.
I was 8 years old when this happened. Me and my cousins were outside playing and we always made a big deal out of the PSA planes because of the smile. Kinda like playing Slug Bug.I saw the flames and smoke and watched it as it went down. I'll never forget this crash. My uncle was a firefighter when this happened. He said that people were finding human body parts for weeks after that day. From hands and legs to a bottom jaw and fingers. A lot of skin was found too. It would be stinking like bad and people would find the rotten body parts.
Your chanel is amazing! Thanks for your hard work, I really appreciate it.
Fantastic as always!
Thanks for the video. Really reminded me of the safair 142 incident that occurred Wednesday morning.
I enjoy your videos very much. Thanks for sharing.
my man! great work as always
The person who took that photo is probably haunted by that image everyday
Dave Boswell was my Gunnery Sergeant at Camp Pendleton. He was upgrading his ratings with plans on becoming a commercial pilot when this accident happened.
I see lots of videos asserting that the PSA crew were unable to see the Cessna because of the scenery below or the color of the smaller plane. I still contend that it was the rising sun they were flying into that blinded their view.
All the pilot had to do was say
No we don’t have them in sight and
ATC would tell them to climb immediately.
@@PInk77W1the pilot thought he did see the plane. He said:
I think he's pass(ed) off to our right.
((Due to radio static, Lindbergh tower voice recording reveals tower received "he's passing off to our right"
Thank you so much for doing this video! I have wondered when you’d do this accident. It was tragic.
I seen a small plane crash when I was 12 . I was taking a shortcut through a housing track and seen smoke. Being 12 I was hoping to see a firetruck and when I got there I seen a plane on fire in a school playground and the kids watching. There was two girls they told me come over here you can see the person in the plane so I walked over there and there was a man no doubt dead with his hands out like he reaching for the controls. I learned later because my mom seen it on the news that it was a man and his two kids. I never told my mom because I was were I wasn't supposed to be.
made up story. you would have heard the crash for sure for sure. not to mention who the hell are those two girls lmao
It wasn’t just at that time, instrument students still wear the hood or goggles to obstruct their view of the outside while practicing in VMC conditions.
Accidents like these make my blood boil. RIP to all the innocent people on the PSA airplane and on the ground ☹
This person delivers every week
This is a fantastic video! I would really appreciate if you did a more detailed video about Aeromexico flight 498!
I love your videos
Keep up the good work
His last words “Ma, I love you” is one of the most heartbreaking things ever.
And just a second before he said that another uttered, “This is it baby”
Love your Content! Thank you very much
I love this guy's soft voice ❤️😊
I really like the music around 8:30. Great video!
Not gonna lie, the idea of intentionally obscuring someone's vision while they're actually in the air is baffling.
As someone who skydives out of a small airport for recreational flyers, its quite scary to think one of them could be "training" and blindly fly into the designated skydivers area
That is the only way to train, and test for, the ability to fly on instruments. Even these days with the advances in simulator tech there is still no substitute for practical experience. There are many situations where visual flying is just not possible, so pilots have to be able to train for those situations.
@@crypticmirror Except this 'training' isn't under the same conditions you'll be flying under.
@@Robocopnik It is markedly less dangerous to take trainees up with a hood on them than it is to pat them on the butt and send them up in dense fog to train instrument only flight in the same conditions they'll experience. In practical terms, though, it is exactly the same. There is something that prevents the pilot from orienting themselves from visual landmarks, so they learn how to use instruments alone to find where they are and how to safely land and navigate with them.
@@crypticmirror people who has enough braincells know that this is horrible idea and this crash proved that
The first time I went to the crash site in North Park was weird. I didn't plan on being there but was trying to avoid traffic on a nearby highway and I ended up near the actual site (which has no memorial btw) and drove through an intersection that had flowers, signs, pictures on one side in front of a house. I parked then walked up to what was obviously a shrine/memorial. I saw right away that the shrine site was visited very recently since there was chalk on the sidewalk with names....and fresh flowers. When I looked it up on my phone.....I had discovered the PSA 182 crash site and it was September 25, 2021 which was the 43rd anniversary of the crash. Crazy.
Very good video!
Thank you for the video. I was living in LA and a junior in high school. I had forgotten all about this accident. I remember hearing about ut on the news when i got home from school and it being a huge deal. So sad and avoidable, thats the worst part, it didnt have to happen. ❤
This is epic stuff 👍🏼
I have watched many crash videos like Mayday and 3 Greens, but never heard of this one. At the beginning I thought you were covering the Aeromexico crash. sad story but good video.
I believe that the total death toll was 144. There were 135 souls on the PSA, 2 on the Cessna and 7 on the ground
Correct.
Great details
Why do I continue to watch this channel when I'm already terrified of flying?!?!
Cause you're alive to watch it happen. 1-2-3 boom! everyone's gone in a flash!
I don't know, but same. I have to go to a flight next year..
DB Cooper famously high jacked a Northwest Orient 727. My neighbor and golf buddy flew 727's for Eastern Airlines and I rode with him a half dozen or so times. Not only a free ticket but if not all the dozen first class seats were full he'd move me up. He loved the plane but hated the 767 he advanced to. Can't remember why but maybe he just enjoyed familiaraty of the 727.
Great breakdown! I lived in North Park for about two years, including a short stay on 33rd St. I knew the accident was in North Park but didn’t realize it was only a few blocks away.
I visited the site last Thursday, 4/13/23
This is a really good channel
It should be noted, that like a lot of planes for the time, the Boeing B727 came with an eyeball reference liner mechanism. Pilots can line their eyesight with the balls on the central cockpit window divider. Could the pilots of PSA 182 have seen the Cessna 172 if they used this mechanism? Hypothetically, they could've seen it for as long as two minutes and 50 seconds prior to the collision. But unfortunately, on the day, the PSA 182 pilots weren't using the eyeball liner. They had adjusted their seats so that they were slightly lower than the balls. In other words, with this setting, the Cessna 172 would've rather been only visible for ten seconds at the absolute most. Also worthy of note is that Captain James McFeron tried to tell air traffic control that he and First Officer Robert Fox couldn't see the Cessna 172, quoting "I think he's passed off to our right." However, because of radio static, the last syllable was garbled. It was instead transmitted as "I think he's passing off to our right." The difference between the two syllables sealled the fate of the 144 victims of the crash. If the controller had heard "I think he's passED off to our right" and not "I think he's passING off to our right", then it's entirely possible that he would've looked at his radar screen and seen that the Boeing B727 was still behind the Cessna 172 and closing in fast.
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A video suggestion is Varig airlines flight 820. You can find the 707 mod for x plane 11 and also the livery. The cause of the crash was because of a cigarret so, a video would be very interesting.
I'll look into it, thanks for the suggestion
Harsh to say it's not interesting, there could have been crew mistakes when handling the initial issue etc. that delayed the aircraft landing successfully
@@jmax8692 yeah you can describe any crash like that is all you've shown
This crash has always haunted me because I flew PSA in the 60's-70's to and from SFO to visit family friends in San Diego. SFO had moved all smaller aircraft out years before, if only San Diego had as well.
In 1984 I was working on getting my PPL in a Cessna 152. My instructor had me do a round robin flight plan from Riverside to Lindberg field and back. He went with me and told me It was a TCA. We had a lot of radio communications with approach control, ATC and departure control. I landed after a Boeing 720 practicing wing vortices avoidance. After landing we taxied back for take off. We took off behind a Boeing 727 (again practicing wing vortices avoidance) and had another big jet getting ready to take off after us. It was one of the hardest flights I had ever done and quite scary. But we got through it fine.
Ridiculous that these small planes with half trained pilots are ever allowed to fly in commercial airspace!
Ridiculous that commercial pilots were not tested for their BAC prior to flying, which would have averted this catastrophe altogether.
I was an avid perpetual world traveler from 1960 to 1990. The good 'ole days ! Quit flying when airports, planes, passengers, hotels and crowds came aboard. After watching these videos of the complexity of planes, pilots, mechanics, maintenance and so on, am fortunate not to have been be aware of the horrendous consequences of catching the wrong flight
That photo is so chilling,I cannot even imagine what the Crew & Passengers were going through.
RIP to all the victims
The Mayday episode about this flight is where I first learned about Wally Funk.
They have an episode about this one?
@@drcreeper08 Yes, Blind Spot Season 11
0:23 look at the rudder and the left aileron the pilots had that thing cranked all the way left and the plane still went down, reminds me of EL-AL 1862, with a bit more airspeed they might have been able recover and land safely
Also, it looks like hydraulic pressure was lost in the right wing, since the right aileron appears to be in it's neutral position
I don't know much about airplanes other than a very few basic things, incredible you could tell that from a picture that's honestly not even very clear (though it is at least clearer than most pictures taken during an accident), i'm impressed you could get so much info just from looking at it....It's so sad that the pilots tried their best only for it to end in the way they didn't want to.
@@guiteshima it's a bit tough to see, but if you look at the tip of the left wing, you will see the aileron deflected up, similarly with the rudder, it appears to be deflected in a direction (almost certainly left as well)
The right wing is a bit harder to see, but it looks like the right aileron is neutral (in addition to the white trail behind the plane, which is most likely hydraulic fluid, since fuel would burn)
I also study aircraft crashes, I majored in physics in university, and i hold a private pilot license
@@mwbgaming28 Impressive! I haven't finished highschool yet but recently i found an interest in airplane crashes and then planes in general.
They are such complex machines and though i'll never be able to pilot one (i wear glasses) i like learning how they work and understanding why and how things can go wrong (or right).
@@guiteshima 2 good ones to analyze (which I find incredibly fascinating) would be GOL 1907, and Pan Am 843, very similar levels of damage, but one broke apart in flight and crashed and the other landed safely (the CVR of GOL 1907 is very informative, but may be difficult for fragile people to listen to)
As for not being able to be a pilot due to wearing glasses, that's BS, my flight instructor wore glasses when when I was in flight school, you just need to have clear vision while wearing them, and carry 2 pairs when you fly
@@mwbgaming28 Ah, that's something i didn't know. I always thought you couldn't get a pilot license by wearing glasses.
Also, thanks for the suggestions! I'll be sure to look them up.
(Edit: I just realized i've actually already checked GOL 1907, as a brazilian, being able to understand what the pilots said was terrifying and it truly was a sad case.)
I was in elementary school in San Diego at the time and saw that. The crash site was just a few miles from our house. I was too young to understand it at the time. Really a horrific event.
I was living in SD at the time and my Dad was on scene as a Police Officer.. Sad day
yes. about PSA 182. this is were i was waiting for. can you make a future video about aeromexico flight 498?. i would realy love that.
That video will get done eventually. There are some differences from this one
@@DisasterBreakdown ok thank you for the information disaster. have a great day.
This crash terrified and upset me greatly at the time, and sparked my interest in aviation accidents. I was 15 at the time. When I was a child, my family lived in San Diego and moved to the SF Bay Area when I was 11. At the time, all of my experience was flying on PSA between the Bay Area and San Diego. But that I had done many times. There is certainly a possibility that I flew on the aircraft that crashed. So I was easily able to see myself in that cabin as it went down. I delivered newspapers, and the day after the crash there were the photos of the plane going down right there to see on the front page. I was so upset I could not go to school the next day because I was sick to my stomach. I also knew the area where the plane went down. So the whole thing hit very close to home. I still remember that day like it was yesterday and I suppose I always will.
imagine having a smiling aeroplane crashing into your house would be the last thing you will see
Can u imagine being in that cessna and literally getting swatted out the sky not knowing exactly what hit u😥😭
Was there in San Diego when this happened was extremely shocking and sad!😢
Loved this video. I’m curious if you are going to make a video on Aeromexico Flight 498 as well; I would love your coverage on that.
I saw this happen. We were up on Mt Helix smoking a joint and 💥🤯
One of my biggest fears ugh a damn plane crashing into my house.