lmao i bought portal in market place for 150! the damn owner told its such a useless handled game he thought it can play cloud gaming without opening ps5
Just came across this video and thank you for the unbiased full in depth review. I come across many that only state why they love it or why they hate it and I love how you weighed the pros and cons. I just got mine and I usually wait about a year after a product comes out. First, because I’m not going to pay scalpers prices but second is that I do think the very first units have the most problems that can be improved. I’m super excited for mine and I also preordered their new stand and case which I think comes out on the 17th. Got a new Subscriber here 😊
Very much appreciate those words, thank you! I hope you have as much of a great time as I have with mine. It's not been perfect by any means, but it's definitely got better over the last 12 months with updates, especially this most recent one. Let me know what you think of the new official accessories when they arrive!
It's a game changer for me. My son was loving playing Harry Potter earlier whilst I sat next to him on the Portal. Plus, if I keep both Portals, we can play them both on the sofa at the same time 😁
@@malo7889Not possible. I was on my portal “cloud” streaming and as soon as my son turned on the PS5 to play PSVR2 on my account, it disabled remote play
When the portal came out I thought it looked really cool and then when I heard what it could do I said no and didn't buy it. But because of this I literally just placed an order for one. Thank you!!!
In hindsight that's what I wished I had done, I'll see if I can cancel the sub and get the discount. I wasn't even sure I was going to keep the Premium subscription after testing, but after realising we can make use of the Portal and the console at the same time now... I might just keep it.
Keep in mind, the Cloud streaming to Portal is still in Beta. It can be stopped at any time and there’s no telling how long the break will be until it is back under the final Cloud release.
As an Australian it's such a bummer that we can't get the streaming option. I have GeForce NOW here and it works VERY good. There is no reason we shouldn't have it. But I have noticed with the update that input latency and bitrate has improved on the portal so I'm thankful for that.
Yeah it's such a shame. As I understand it, they simply haven't invested in the infrastructure required to get it to work well. I can only imagine that's down to the sheer size of Australia.
Good video. This is how the portal should have been released at launch. It never has worked well streaming from the ps5 but the cloud streaming works excellent. Just need a better game selection now. I’m sure the games that are currently on there are the best streaming ones. With most games, you don’t notice the lag from controls to game. A couple of the racers you can notice and little lay.
Yeah I think this update has definitely been the biggest win for the Portal so far and so many have said "if it was like this from launch I would have bought one". I'm just glad Sony seem to be sticking with it, gives me hope for future years!
I just traded an iPad for a portal today for this. I just finished setting it up. I don't have a PS5. I had a small amount of input lag, and my game became blurry and laggy after a few minutes, but in the first few minutes, the image quality looked native. I have 500 up and down and a great router.
If you have an Android phone or tablet, download an app called WiFiMan and run the latency graph test in the same spot you were playing the Portal. The MS response needs to be as low as possible and as stable as possible. The graph line should be nice and flat.
I’m still having trouble seeing the value here. Other than the controller/grips, what am I getting that I can’t get with my tablet I already own? I can cloud game on it already, I can connect to my PS5 and remote game already, I can connect controllers to it already, plus I can use my Bluetooth ear buds rather than having to purchase their proprietary earbuds (such a terrible idea here by Sony). Also, this device was born to do one thing, and they are just now getting it stutter free? That makes me worry about long time support for it. If I’ve missed something it does that makes it of more value please let me know.
The Fact that pro controllers Like Razer's Wolverine V2, Duel Sense edge and the Turtle Beach pro controller can cost up to $350😮 the Portal is a pro controller with a Screen and Cloud streaming for $250. Its a solid device
They better get it now, cause close to xmas, they'll be hard to get, especially after this update. I tried last xmas and finally got one in mid February and it was worth the wait then.
I've never any problems with my portal but I did notice the slight stutter it just never looked smooth..after the update it's buttery smooth...I've also found that charging doc you have and I've got one today ..thanks for the video
@@TheGameFatherUK I think you’re right about that I personally bought a Steam Deck with the intention of playing native games on it but finding myself streaming from my ps5 instead. Back when Stadia was a thing it was my primary gaming platform and I was really saddened when Goggle killed it, absolutely think it’s the way of the future for a lot of casual gamers.
Do you realize that if Sony made a stand alone like the Switch or Steamdeck it would cost as much as a console? I guess if you could download your existing library to the device it would work but it's a safe bet that most would complain it cost too much like they're doing with the pro they couldn't wait for. 😁🤷
Mine worked the first week I had it. Now the thing won’t connect to my ps5. For $200 I shouldn’t have to surf RUclips for workarounds that also aren’t working. it should just work.
I was going to make a static ip and port forward but I decided to leave it alone and go to the middle of the earth and play my portal and see if the stutters are gone
I bought the portal last night and renewed my PS Premium for $111. I only buy the subscription when on sale. It's like buying 2 games for the year at $60. Most games I would buy are free with the subscription. That's why I justify paying the subscription. The portal is nice. The screen size is good. The stream played flawlessly for me with my wifi at home. Some games wouldn't start like Miles Morales spiderman. But everything else was smooth. I gotta test it over mobile hotspot and public wifis.
Is your PSN account linked to your country? I don't think it's as telling the network you're in a different country if your actual account is set to that region too. I don't have a way of confirming it though :/
I'd put some money aside for the Pro, but when it was announced, I just wasn't expecting it to cost so much with so few upsides. I ended up putting that money towards rebuilding my PC. As for the VR2, I'm quite happy with my Oculus 3 (even though it doesn't have Headmaster which is the game that got the most play time on the original VR)
I was/am super happy with this update. I have used the portal with no real issues for a week. But while watching this video i tried out miles morales and the micro stutters were so severe the game was unplayable. Tried to restart but the same issues. It is not perfect. It seems to be better but on a case by case basis.
@@rishipersaud9898 I'm assuming it works when you're away from home connected from a different internet connection? It just fails to work on mobile data? If so, you might be able to try the EE APN Profile on Git-hub. I've read about other EE users trying it and it working for them. It's not something I've made or had anything to do with though and I'm not sure if it's been tested on iOS 16. This is the link if you want to check it out: gist.github.com/duncansmart/7f034cf086a80c2c1373ec16d4de207b On your iPhone, you tap the raw link which should download the APN to your settings, then install it on your phone, reboot and make a new hotspot.
I’m very disappointed with mine. It’s gorgeous. It feels great, but it just doesn’t function correctly. I bought one to take with me while I visit family during the holidays and it’s just super laggy, keeps losing connection, I keep dying and losing progress and having to re-track and it’s just super frustrating.Yes, I have an excellent Internet, my PlayStation five is hardwired in, and the family I was staying with have excellent Internet. Returning it.
In terms of fixing things, the update has only addressed the microstutter. The other stuff is feature updates. Mobile data has always worked just fine as long as the connection is fast enough and stable enough (emphasis on stable!). It'll eat through data though at between 2 and 6GB per hour. Mobile data has always been a bit tricky just due to its instability. I play on mobile data regularly, but if the signal quality isn't rock solid, it's not great. You can always try the free mobile app and install remote play on your phone to try it. If it works well then, you're good to go. The only thing you can test is streaming from the cloud as that is a Portal only feature (not in the Mac, Windows, iOS or Android app).
Thanks so much for the video - subscribed! Quick question please - and I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but can two people (kids psn accounts) play fortnite together, one on the ps5 and another on the portal in the same household?...
Yeah I can't say I blame you, they've added about 80 more titles in the last week so fingers crossed they keep that kind of pace up and get the likes of God of War etc in the catalogue
I really wanted the 30th anniversary edition of the portal but I just couldn’t bring myself to buy it since I just paid for the Pro. That and the fact bots had already scalped them all before I the chance to even look at it.😅
I have a synchronous gigabit connection now, but when the Portal first came out I was running on 70mb and it was more than enough. You only need 13mbps, anything about that will be fine as long as it's stable (and of course depending on other people that you might be sharing it with) If you're not sure though, just download the free remote play app on Android, iOS, Mac or Windows and give that a try. You can simulate what streaming between a Portal and console is like. Or you can just sub to premium on a PS5 and stick it on WiFi and see that too.
No, I really don't think so. I think if anything, that's a different product all together due to the hardware requirements. I think they'll decide whether to go down that route or not on the back of the Portal. If the Portal with cloud streaming is working for them and it's a success, I'd be surprised (pleasantly) if they'd try and take on the Switch.
@ yeah I see that. It just sucks cause I’d get it just to play my games on it without having to turn on the ps5 but I’m not trynna spend the money for premium just for that lol. That’s why I wish they made it where u could just sign into ur ps account and play without remote play and just regular ps plus
got one immediately, guessing ebay prises will keep going up till old units cost as much as a brand-new ones. someone teach these lads how to bid why paying 189 GBP for a used item thats 199 new.
Afraid not :( You'll either need to wait for them to maybe add it to the catalogue, or get a PS5. Failing that, if you know someone that will let you play theirs remotely, that could be an option.
@ aww ok. I am still contemplating whether I want to buy a PS5, but is it worth the financial decision?. I do want the portal as well, but I’ll need to buy the game as well
I'm really looking into this, I'm not interested in a PS5, and premium subscription per year isn't that expensive, and the overall price of the Portal is also very affordable, and my Internet is basically wasted per month on rubbish series these days 😂
That just sucks so hard! For all the people that are re-selling these things because before hand these things where more paperweights then a handheld devices.
Is anyone able to play gta 5 online through the beta cloud streaming yet? When I try it says their servers are down but other games I’m able to connect online.
Streaming directly from the cloud is not supported on anything other than the console and the Portal. It's not available as a feature on any of the remote play apps. Sorry!
@@keslerkalaw2873 If you want to play the game that's inside the disc drive then unless it's an online game, you don't need any kind of PS Plus subscription at all, a free PSN account will suffice. But if you already have the PS Plus, it'll still work fine :) You only need the Premium sub if you're streaming directly from the cloud via the new update.
You can use either singapore or hongkong for your region. Just make sure to use yourbown email addressed to your own country. I've been using my sgd acc(my country has no psn supp) since ps3 and never encountered any problems.
I’m hoping someone can help me. I’m living in Thailand but my ps5 is back in England. My ps5 is hardwired with 300mbps+ and my wifi speed in thailand is 400mbps+ I’m happy to just play single player games on it, but I at least want them to run smoothly. Does anyone know if firstly I can do the initial setup in a different country and secondly will it still work when playing over such long distances? Is it worth it or just going to be too much of a delay? Thanks
The best advice I can give you is to download the free Sony Remote Play app on your phone and test it that way. If you're able to connect to your console back in England and play from Thailand without too much lag, then buy a Portal. They run on the same tech so it'll be an almost identical experience. In theory it'll work fine, it just depends on the stability (not so much the speed) of the connection at both ends :)
Does anyone know with the new update, if I have one ps5 with one account with ps premium, would my wife be able to stream in the portal while I play on my ps5 or if she set up a second profile on my ps5 could she use it on the portal? Some say yes some say no 😅
You can only stream to the Portal directly from the cloud if the account that's logged into has premium. You could do it the other way round, with you streaming on the Portal via premium and her on the console with a non-premium account (at the same time). But if her PSN account is not Premium, then you won't be able to have it working in the way you described. Alternatively, you could sign into the Portal and let her play that on Premium whilst you play on a separate account on the console. Not ideal because of saved game progress, purchased games and DLC purchases though.
are you for real? just sold my ps5 and im not at home that often due to work and other activities now i can play it without needing to buy a ps5 and just play the games i have already bought on the console
Yeah it's a bummer :( always seems to be the case too. IIRC you can't even get the full Premium sub over there can you? It's a slightly lesser offering that doesn't including streaming?
It's entirely dependent on your network really, and to an extent, what games you play and to what standard. I wouldn't think a competitive FPS at high level would be a good idea, but for casual gaming, it isn't noticeable.
Hmm, I don't have any personal experience at airports or planes with the Portal. But if it's a choice between the two and you do a lot of travelling, I'd probably go with the steam deck. You've got the safety of offline gaming with that, plus you can install Chakaki and play your PS5 remotely if the connection is solid. You don't get the dual sense ergonomics or the haptics, but it'd be a safer bet imo.
It's not available to stream directly from the online library, so you can, but it'd have to stream from the console, rather than the cloud. That may of course change in the future if Sony add it, but who knows if that might happen.
So basically if you want a portable its really best at home. Once you get on a moving vehicle, a plane or places where you don't have any type of good connection its still pretty useless. I'd rather pay more and be able to use more games in more places vs paying less but paying a sub fee and still be limited to wifi
That part i was almost ready to buy it for myself 😅 but I don't see the point of it if it's still at the mercy of WiFi connection. If I'm home I'm not playing no darn portal when I got a PS5 right there sure it's convenient if my kids are playing the console but thats not worth $200. If they figure out how to play it native or shall I say locally then yes .
@NurullahYasar-g5g i never ever had problem s. Because the in netherlands have one faster internet in the world when you test upload it to 18mb iam not only one use internet in the house they say you need 5mb
As for the micro stutter I got a ps5 pro and for a week it was great then I updated my portal great I thought next day when I booted up my ps5 pro there was a micro stutter on that totally bizarre only way to sort it was to turn off the HDR setting on my ps5 pro very odd indeed has anyone else had this issue
@ ok so went through the settings again and it’s not the HDR that’s causing the problem but the latency setting I have sky glass and unfortunately it doesn’t have a gaming setting so it’s this that’s causing the problem I’ve turned it off and everything is fine don’t think this is a major problem any thoughts
Depends on the game you're playing to some degree, like the amount of haptic feedback, volume of sound, brightness of screen etc. But I find about 3-4 hours on average when at home.
You do, but that's been the case on the PSN since cloud streaming was made available. All that's really changed in that regard is that it now works on the Portal too.
I guess it depends what you've already played/bought. I can see it being worth it for people that haven't played the likes of Last of us, Ghost of Tsushima, FFVII Remake, Death Stranding etc.
You can now, yes. You will need a Playstation Plus Premium subscription though in order to access the streaming service. Just keep in mind that it's only just been released and it's in beta so it's not perfect :)
Actually, I've always been impressed with the screen, despite it not being anything special on paper. I mean, it's not really comparable to a top of the range OLED HDR, but for the price point, I think it's pretty excellent.
@@TheGameFatherUK Right on, good to know. Side note: I’ve been testing my WiFi using the WifiMan app you mentioned, and I have a question about latency. The latency to router is consistently showing 3-6 ms. The latency to Internet is consistently showing 35-40 ms. Is that normal? I’m looking at picking up a Portal, but I wanted to see if my WiFi is decent enough to properly run one first. My current speeds are 100/100.
@@CincoQuallity 3-6ms locally is very good, especially if it's staying within that range. Latency to the internet is largely down to the quality of the ISP. I used to have an absolutely mega ISP which would consistently be under 10ms, but they couldn't provide full fibre so I had to switch. The current provider is fast, but the MS isn't as good. 35ms will be fine though, as long as you're not an elite FPS gamer where each ms counts (I am definitely not 😆)
@@TheGameFatherUK Alright, thanks for the info. I’d only be playing single player titles anyway, so hopefully it’ll be fine. Just to clarify, there’s nothing I can do about that 35-40 ms internet latency? That’s entirely on the ISP?
@@CincoQuallity When you say the latency is showing 35-40 do you mean that you're connecting to a server (like a speedtest one or game server) and that locally you're only connecting the device to the router itself?. If that's the case then no matter what you're going to have higher latency when actually using the internet as that's based on your location and how far away you are from the actual physical server you're connecting to which isn't an isp issue but an issue of how physics and distance work. Like for example I live in Australia and if I connect to a server in let's say America to play an online competitive game I will always no matter what be at a huge disadvantage latency wise unless I move to America or the people I play against move to where I am because it takes time for the internet packets to move back and forth such huge distances (about a quarter of a second or about 250ms in my case for example)
Remote play has been available on Sony since 2016. This video is very specifically about streaming from the cloud to the Portal, which itself is only just 12 months old.
Yeah I'm really looking forward to them opening up the catalogue more. The service is already struggling at peak times with capacity so it was perhaps a smart move to roll it out in stages.
Unless their endgame is to actually put their damn games onto their cloud streaming service so you can actually stream them, then I’m not interested. Spoiler: it’s not. If you don’t know what you are doing you are gonna buy that damn thing & get ripped off by Sony’s half assed cloud-based gaming catalogue
Always one of these. Do you go through life around comparing everything you have or like with everything else? It's in beta calm down. Enjoy what you like and leave others to like what they like. Plenty of games you can't get on Xbox here.
What the hell is this micro-stutter crap? I haven't seen this. Is it a router issue? I can see so many people not bothering to upgrade their ISP's router and blaming Sony.
It's a totally different issue to latency. The microstutter is down to a discrepancy of 0.06hz between the Portals screen and the output of remote play via the PS5. There are loads of videos out there demonstrating it, it was definitely a thing, thankfully a thing of the past.
Hmm, I can't agree with you, for a 1080p screen I think the bitrate is perfectly fine. Also, it wasn't ignorance, I genuinely can't see it. Not sure why that is the case for some and not others, but then again, my eyes aren't so great in the first place 🤓
Gives the portal so much extra value now 🎉
It would be nice to play it without a internet connection.
As soon as this update dropped, the wait started for this video lol. You never disappoint with your Portal coverage... 😎👍
Appreciate that more than you know, thank you
Ordered Portal just now and just because of this video and the update. Excited! Thank you!
Nice! Hope you enjoy it as much as I've enjoyed mine!
I was soooooo close to selling my Portal and probably my PS5. Since the stutter is fixed I’m doing a 180 and keeping both.
Same :))
Same bro hahah
Best decision ever
lmao i bought portal in market place for 150! the damn owner told its such a useless handled game he thought it can play cloud gaming without opening ps5
Why would you sell your ps5 unless you wanted to give up gaming entirely?
Just picked up the Portal this week and holy balls is the streaming super smooth.
Just came across this video and thank you for the unbiased full in depth review. I come across many that only state why they love it or why they hate it and I love how you weighed the pros and cons. I just got mine and I usually wait about a year after a product comes out. First, because I’m not going to pay scalpers prices but second is that I do think the very first units have the most problems that can be improved. I’m super excited for mine and I also preordered their new stand and case which I think comes out on the 17th. Got a new Subscriber here 😊
Very much appreciate those words, thank you! I hope you have as much of a great time as I have with mine. It's not been perfect by any means, but it's definitely got better over the last 12 months with updates, especially this most recent one. Let me know what you think of the new official accessories when they arrive!
I was able to play 2 different games at the same time while on my ps5 and ps portal this morning
It's a game changer for me. My son was loving playing Harry Potter earlier whilst I sat next to him on the Portal. Plus, if I keep both Portals, we can play them both on the sofa at the same time 😁
Same account..I don't think so
@ yup same account, my daughter was playing a cooking game on my ps portal I was playing kingdom hearts 3 on my ps5 I only have one psn 🤷🏾♂️
@@malo7889 that's weird everyone saying you can only use 1 account .. I'll have to try it
@@malo7889Not possible. I was on my portal “cloud” streaming and as soon as my son turned on the PS5 to play PSVR2 on my account, it disabled remote play
Best video that’s covered these improvements! Thanks for the video 👍🏼
Thanks!
When the portal came out I thought it looked really cool and then when I heard what it could do I said no and didn't buy it. But because of this I literally just placed an order for one. Thank you!!!
I will be upgrading to PS Plus Premium this weekend during Black Friday discounts
In hindsight that's what I wished I had done, I'll see if I can cancel the sub and get the discount. I wasn't even sure I was going to keep the Premium subscription after testing, but after realising we can make use of the Portal and the console at the same time now... I might just keep it.
That is also the intention of this update, they can close the gap in PS5 Pro sales 😂
That’s what I did just yesterday. In Australian dollars $130ish for 12 months of deluxe.
Keep in mind, the Cloud streaming to Portal is still in Beta. It can be stopped at any time and there’s no telling how long the break will be until it is back under the final Cloud release.
As an Australian it's such a bummer that we can't get the streaming option. I have GeForce NOW here and it works VERY good. There is no reason we shouldn't have it. But I have noticed with the update that input latency and bitrate has improved on the portal so I'm thankful for that.
Yeah it's such a shame. As I understand it, they simply haven't invested in the infrastructure required to get it to work well. I can only imagine that's down to the sheer size of Australia.
Good video. This is how the portal should have been released at launch. It never has worked well streaming from the ps5 but the cloud streaming works excellent. Just need a better game selection now. I’m sure the games that are currently on there are the best streaming ones. With most games, you don’t notice the lag from controls to game. A couple of the racers you can notice and little lay.
Yeah I think this update has definitely been the biggest win for the Portal so far and so many have said "if it was like this from launch I would have bought one". I'm just glad Sony seem to be sticking with it, gives me hope for future years!
I just traded an iPad for a portal today for this. I just finished setting it up. I don't have a PS5. I had a small amount of input lag, and my game became blurry and laggy after a few minutes, but in the first few minutes, the image quality looked native. I have 500 up and down and a great router.
If you have an Android phone or tablet, download an app called WiFiMan and run the latency graph test in the same spot you were playing the Portal. The MS response needs to be as low as possible and as stable as possible. The graph line should be nice and flat.
@TheGameFatherUK The lag is lower than some tvs. I just really pushed myself to notice it mostly for my channel but I can easily adjust to it.
Looks like the winking man where you tested it. Nice
Good eye! Couldn't go much further in due to the snow 😄
I’m still having trouble seeing the value here. Other than the controller/grips, what am I getting that I can’t get with my tablet I already own? I can cloud game on it already, I can connect to my PS5 and remote game already, I can connect controllers to it already, plus I can use my Bluetooth ear buds rather than having to purchase their proprietary earbuds (such a terrible idea here by Sony). Also, this device was born to do one thing, and they are just now getting it stutter free? That makes me worry about long time support for it. If I’ve missed something it does that makes it of more value please let me know.
The Fact that pro controllers Like Razer's Wolverine V2, Duel Sense edge and the Turtle Beach pro controller can cost up to $350😮 the Portal is a pro controller with a Screen and Cloud streaming for $250. Its a solid device
I know what to ask father christmas for this year..... 😂😂
Just make sure you're on the right list, he is VERY particular about who gets what 😉
@TheGameFatherUK 🤣🤣🤣👍
They better get it now, cause close to xmas, they'll be hard to get, especially after this update. I tried last xmas and finally got one in mid February and it was worth the wait then.
I've never any problems with my portal but I did notice the slight stutter it just never looked smooth..after the update it's buttery smooth...I've also found that charging doc you have and I've got one today ..thanks for the video
Screw the portal we want a new PlayStation portable playing games natively ❤🎮
The Vita was ahead of it's time really. Given Sony's push to cloud streaming, I'm not betting on seeing another like it now
@@TheGameFatherUK I think you’re right about that I personally bought a Steam Deck with the intention of playing native games on it but finding myself streaming from my ps5 instead.
Back when Stadia was a thing it was my primary gaming platform and I was really saddened when Goggle killed it, absolutely think it’s the way of the future for a lot of casual gamers.
They are thinking about it but if they do it’ll be in a few years
Do you realize that if Sony made a stand alone like the Switch or Steamdeck it would cost as much as a console? I guess if you could download your existing library to the device it would work but it's a safe bet that most would complain it cost too much like they're doing with the pro they couldn't wait for. 😁🤷
Mine worked the first week I had it. Now the thing won’t connect to my ps5. For $200 I shouldn’t have to surf RUclips for workarounds that also aren’t working. it should just work.
I've been playing the portal while my boss drives the company truck on the interstate.
That's awesome, are you tethered to a phone or using a mobile router?
Hotspot off my z fold 5 phone.
I was going to make a static ip and port forward but I decided to leave it alone and go to the middle of the earth and play my portal and see if the stutters are gone
W vid as always
Thank you!
I bought the portal last night and renewed my PS Premium for $111. I only buy the subscription when on sale. It's like buying 2 games for the year at $60. Most games I would buy are free with the subscription. That's why I justify paying the subscription.
The portal is nice. The screen size is good. The stream played flawlessly for me with my wifi at home. Some games wouldn't start like Miles Morales spiderman. But everything else was smooth. I gotta test it over mobile hotspot and public wifis.
Not available in South Africa. Will a Router with OpenVPN and Nordvpn work?
Is your PSN account linked to your country? I don't think it's as telling the network you're in a different country if your actual account is set to that region too. I don't have a way of confirming it though :/
Playing on your PC portal and PS5 at the same time is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Good video, just subbed 👍
Thank you!
@ you’re very welcome 👌
Thank you for this - amazing as always. Ps will you be getting a PS5 Pro and/or PSVR2 during Black Friday?
I'd put some money aside for the Pro, but when it was announced, I just wasn't expecting it to cost so much with so few upsides. I ended up putting that money towards rebuilding my PC. As for the VR2, I'm quite happy with my Oculus 3 (even though it doesn't have Headmaster which is the game that got the most play time on the original VR)
Why does the ps portal only have wifi 5? Does that influence in the connection given that ps5 pro now even has wifi 7
Ordered mine tonight, here tomorrow. Looking forward to making better use of my premium sub.
That's a definite good purchase if you already had the premium sub, congrats!
@@TheGameFatherUK You weren't kidding. Impressed so far.
Where is that beautiful nature spot?
This is in the Peak District, U.K. It's a place called The Roaches. There are some incredible spots around there :)
Just picked one up before they sell out for Christmas lol
I was/am super happy with this update. I have used the portal with no real issues for a week. But while watching this video i tried out miles morales and the micro stutters were so severe the game was unplayable. Tried to restart but the same issues. It is not perfect. It seems to be better but on a case by case basis.
Fantastic video
Thank you! Appreciated 🙌
@@TheGameFatherUKcould you do a video on connecting/tethering to an iPhone? I’ve tried to connect to mine (on EE) but it fails to do so
@@rishipersaud9898 I'm assuming it works when you're away from home connected from a different internet connection? It just fails to work on mobile data? If so, you might be able to try the EE APN Profile on Git-hub. I've read about other EE users trying it and it working for them. It's not something I've made or had anything to do with though and I'm not sure if it's been tested on iOS 16. This is the link if you want to check it out:
gist.github.com/duncansmart/7f034cf086a80c2c1373ec16d4de207b
On your iPhone, you tap the raw link which should download the APN to your settings, then install it on your phone, reboot and make a new hotspot.
Bro you should get a anti glare screen protector, makes massive difference 👍🏻
Any in particular you'd recommend?
I've only noticed the microstutter when using a 5Ghz wireless network.
I’m very disappointed with mine. It’s gorgeous. It feels great, but it just doesn’t function correctly. I bought one to take with me while I visit family during the holidays and it’s just super laggy, keeps losing connection, I keep dying and losing progress and having to re-track and it’s just super frustrating.Yes, I have an excellent Internet, my PlayStation five is hardwired in, and the family I was staying with have excellent Internet. Returning it.
Taughts on buying one if planning on using hotspot from mobile phone ? Bad reviews before has it improved since update
In terms of fixing things, the update has only addressed the microstutter. The other stuff is feature updates. Mobile data has always worked just fine as long as the connection is fast enough and stable enough (emphasis on stable!). It'll eat through data though at between 2 and 6GB per hour. Mobile data has always been a bit tricky just due to its instability. I play on mobile data regularly, but if the signal quality isn't rock solid, it's not great.
You can always try the free mobile app and install remote play on your phone to try it. If it works well then, you're good to go. The only thing you can test is streaming from the cloud as that is a Portal only feature (not in the Mac, Windows, iOS or Android app).
Thanks so much for the video - subscribed! Quick question please - and I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but can two people (kids psn accounts) play fortnite together, one on the ps5 and another on the portal in the same household?...
How do we force playstation to offer cloud streaming in Australia
Waiting for the Beta to transition to permanent Cloud streaming program before I grab a Portal and start a PS + Premium subscription.
Yeah I can't say I blame you, they've added about 80 more titles in the last week so fingers crossed they keep that kind of pace up and get the likes of God of War etc in the catalogue
@ For sure. I’d get it now if I knew there wouldn’t be an hiatus between the end of the Beta and the official Portal Cloud Streaming program.
At last…happy days 😅
Yay !!! 🎉
Now I'm buying one
don't trust me
Sorry is there a specific version/ year of the portal or are any all ok for this update.
All the Portals can update to this latest version :) the beta for cloud streaming is an option within the settings.
Any idea if the lag better with the new update?
It's *insane* how long it took them to just lower the minimum volume... Still, great they're showing the portal some love.
Heh yeah, couldn't agree with you more there, a year to change the min volume 😆
I really wanted the 30th anniversary edition of the portal but I just couldn’t bring myself to buy it since I just paid for the Pro. That and the fact bots had already scalped them all before I the chance to even look at it.😅
What is your internet speed in your house? Worried I buy one and it lags. I currently have about 800mb on average
I have a synchronous gigabit connection now, but when the Portal first came out I was running on 70mb and it was more than enough. You only need 13mbps, anything about that will be fine as long as it's stable (and of course depending on other people that you might be sharing it with)
If you're not sure though, just download the free remote play app on Android, iOS, Mac or Windows and give that a try. You can simulate what streaming between a Portal and console is like. Or you can just sub to premium on a PS5 and stick it on WiFi and see that too.
Do u think they’ll make it where u don’t need ps premium and can just play it like a handheld ps5 without the ps5 on
No, I really don't think so. I think if anything, that's a different product all together due to the hardware requirements. I think they'll decide whether to go down that route or not on the back of the Portal. If the Portal with cloud streaming is working for them and it's a success, I'd be surprised (pleasantly) if they'd try and take on the Switch.
@ yeah I see that. It just sucks cause I’d get it just to play my games on it without having to turn on the ps5 but I’m not trynna spend the money for premium just for that lol. That’s why I wish they made it where u could just sign into ur ps account and play without remote play and just regular ps plus
I have a very good internet connection at home but still the resolution drops sometimes, can I somehow improve this ?
It'll likely be down to the stability of your WiFi. Are you streaming from the cloud or from your console?
Voice commands work for searching for games 🎮 👏
got one immediately, guessing ebay prises will keep going up till old units cost as much as a brand-new ones. someone teach these lads how to bid why paying 189 GBP for a used item thats 199 new.
Especially weird whilst stock is still good :/
I don’t own a ps5 and not membership I just wanna play Astro Bot. Any recommendations? Thank you.
Afraid not :( You'll either need to wait for them to maybe add it to the catalogue, or get a PS5. Failing that, if you know someone that will let you play theirs remotely, that could be an option.
@ aww ok. I am still contemplating whether I want to buy a PS5, but is it worth the financial decision?. I do want the portal as well, but I’ll need to buy the game as well
How many games are available to you? I currently have 204 but started with much less than that 2 days ago.
Just checked and you're right, I also have 204. Pretty decent! Just need to get the likes of God of War on there instead of Peppa Pig 😆
I'm really looking into this, I'm not interested in a PS5, and premium subscription per year isn't that expensive, and the overall price of the Portal is also very affordable, and my Internet is basically wasted per month on rubbish series these days 😂
That just sucks so hard! For all the people that are re-selling these things because before hand these things where more paperweights then a handheld devices.
It’s their fault for selling. Everyone should have known this was coming eventually it only made sense
The volume now has to be at 60% just to be able to hear it. They should’ve left it alone
Is anyone able to play gta 5 online through the beta cloud streaming yet? When I try it says their servers are down but other games I’m able to connect online.
What did you get from Maccies?
A large portion of disappointment. The ordering system had crashed, they had to close the place, mine was the last order 😄
Be nice if sony could make the ps portal leds “controllers” dimable like on the ps5
Love the portal
Will this work for my iPad thru the PS App? 🤔🎮
Streaming directly from the cloud is not supported on anything other than the console and the Portal. It's not available as a feature on any of the remote play apps. Sorry!
I have a disc game on a PS5 can I play it on the PSPortal?
Yes, as long as it's in the drive and installed :)
@TheGameFatherUK I only have the essentials subscription on my ps5. Is it enough? Thanks
@@keslerkalaw2873 If you want to play the game that's inside the disc drive then unless it's an online game, you don't need any kind of PS Plus subscription at all, a free PSN account will suffice. But if you already have the PS Plus, it'll still work fine :) You only need the Premium sub if you're streaming directly from the cloud via the new update.
If this was in my country and I could get the premium I would absolutely get this.
I hope they continue to roll it out, it's been great so far!
I'm in indonesia and it hasn't support on my region yet, can i change my region to other country to play cloud streaming on my portal?
You can use either singapore or hongkong for your region. Just make sure to use yourbown email addressed to your own country. I've been using my sgd acc(my country has no psn supp) since ps3 and never encountered any problems.
I saw improvement on speeds
I’m hoping someone can help me. I’m living in Thailand but my ps5 is back in England. My ps5 is hardwired with 300mbps+ and my wifi speed in thailand is 400mbps+
I’m happy to just play single player games on it, but I at least want them to run smoothly.
Does anyone know if firstly I can do the initial setup in a different country and secondly will it still work when playing over such long distances? Is it worth it or just going to be too much of a delay? Thanks
The best advice I can give you is to download the free Sony Remote Play app on your phone and test it that way. If you're able to connect to your console back in England and play from Thailand without too much lag, then buy a Portal. They run on the same tech so it'll be an almost identical experience.
In theory it'll work fine, it just depends on the stability (not so much the speed) of the connection at both ends :)
Does anyone know with the new update, if I have one ps5 with one account with ps premium, would my wife be able to stream in the portal while I play on my ps5 or if she set up a second profile on my ps5 could she use it on the portal? Some say yes some say no 😅
You can only stream to the Portal directly from the cloud if the account that's logged into has premium. You could do it the other way round, with you streaming on the Portal via premium and her on the console with a non-premium account (at the same time). But if her PSN account is not Premium, then you won't be able to have it working in the way you described.
Alternatively, you could sign into the Portal and let her play that on Premium whilst you play on a separate account on the console. Not ideal because of saved game progress, purchased games and DLC purchases though.
are you for real? just sold my ps5 and im not at home that often due to work and other activities now i can play it without needing to buy a ps5 and just play the games i have already bought on the console
But it doesnt work in australia 😢😢😢
Yeah it's a bummer :( always seems to be the case too. IIRC you can't even get the full Premium sub over there can you? It's a slightly lesser offering that doesn't including streaming?
How about the input lag???
It's entirely dependent on your network really, and to an extent, what games you play and to what standard. I wouldn't think a competitive FPS at high level would be a good idea, but for casual gaming, it isn't noticeable.
Wht a purpose of getting it of somegames are not available
It's in beta and I'm nothing they are adding games already. Jeez give it time.
@ games pass xbox it’s still beta
RUclips’s biggest word “caveats”.
Can I have two portals streaming from the one subscription? (I’ve two gamers in the house) 😅
You'll never believe what video I'm finishing the editing of right now 😉 Spoiler: Yes. It. Is 😁
How well would you think the portal works now during flights and travel? On edge between this and the steam deck. Thanks!
Hmm, I don't have any personal experience at airports or planes with the Portal. But if it's a choice between the two and you do a lot of travelling, I'd probably go with the steam deck. You've got the safety of offline gaming with that, plus you can install Chakaki and play your PS5 remotely if the connection is solid. You don't get the dual sense ergonomics or the haptics, but it'd be a safer bet imo.
Can I play Destiny on ps portal?
It's not available to stream directly from the online library, so you can, but it'd have to stream from the console, rather than the cloud. That may of course change in the future if Sony add it, but who knows if that might happen.
@ well seeing as Sony now owns Bungie I can definitely imagine that happening
Not having luck on my internet. Think I need an upgrade. Anyone recommend any public WiFi spots until then? lol😂
I wanna play dead space. But im pissed I can only play it through remote play 🤬
So basically if you want a portable its really best at home. Once you get on a moving vehicle, a plane or places where you don't have any type of good connection its still pretty useless. I'd rather pay more and be able to use more games in more places vs paying less but paying a sub fee and still be limited to wifi
Ok so do that.
That part i was almost ready to buy it for myself 😅 but I don't see the point of it if it's still at the mercy of WiFi connection. If I'm home I'm not playing no darn portal when I got a PS5 right there sure it's convenient if my kids are playing the console but thats not worth $200. If they figure out how to play it native or shall I say locally then yes .
instead of dudes just NOT buying it, they want to write entire paragraphs telling you why they’re NOT buying it, just shut up, no one cares lol
Cloud gaming is the future of gaming
Definitely stepping in that direction for sure!
I love physical... And completely agree, I have very mixed feelings about it. But it works so well, I can't unsee it.
Yep when console is dead or get no surrport its offline support it no more.
Its beter for the game develober
How is latency and graphics? Is it the same experience like remote play from your ps5? Or just better / worse?
@NurullahYasar-g5g i never ever had problem s. Because the in netherlands have one faster internet in the world when you test upload it to 18mb iam not only one use internet in the house
they say you need 5mb
Man said Tuah- shima
As for the micro stutter I got a ps5 pro and for a week it was great then I updated my portal great I thought next day when I booted up my ps5 pro there was a micro stutter on that totally bizarre only way to sort it was to turn off the HDR setting on my ps5 pro very odd indeed has anyone else had this issue
Can't say I have seen that myself, that is pretty bizarre :/ Have you rebooted each device since?
@ it’s definitely the HDR for some reason when I turn it on I get this micro stutter it is bizarre
@ ok so went through the settings again and it’s not the HDR that’s causing the problem but the latency setting I have sky glass and unfortunately it doesn’t have a gaming setting so it’s this that’s causing the problem I’ve turned it off and everything is fine don’t think this is a major problem any thoughts
Thanks for the update, pretty interesting that it was a Sky Glass issue!
Agreed. Good Job Sony
not in australia
I know ☹️ What's that all about? It always seems to be the case
Can you earn trophies?
Absolutely! Lots of people use the Portal for casual trophy hunting :)
@TheGameFatherUK thank you
BATERRY LIFE
Depends on the game you're playing to some degree, like the amount of haptic feedback, volume of sound, brightness of screen etc. But I find about 3-4 hours on average when at home.
Soooo Sony doing an Xbox and now ponies are loving it. What a surprise lol
So, you need to pay for the highest tier PSN subscription to avail the streaming thing? WTF?
You do, but that's been the case on the PSN since cloud streaming was made available. All that's really changed in that regard is that it now works on the Portal too.
Do u need a ps5 to join a ps party
It's in beta right now so probably not
It only lets you stream a handful of games so far though so not worth it
I guess it depends what you've already played/bought. I can see it being worth it for people that haven't played the likes of Last of us, Ghost of Tsushima, FFVII Remake, Death Stranding etc.
I don’t own ps5 can i still play ps portal???
Please help
You can now, yes. You will need a Playstation Plus Premium subscription though in order to access the streaming service. Just keep in mind that it's only just been released and it's in beta so it's not perfect :)
How do you find the screen overall? The black levels seem problematic. Is the lack of HDR frustrating?
Actually, I've always been impressed with the screen, despite it not being anything special on paper. I mean, it's not really comparable to a top of the range OLED HDR, but for the price point, I think it's pretty excellent.
@@TheGameFatherUK Right on, good to know.
Side note: I’ve been testing my WiFi using the WifiMan app you mentioned, and I have a question about latency. The latency to router is consistently showing 3-6 ms. The latency to Internet is consistently showing 35-40 ms. Is that normal?
I’m looking at picking up a Portal, but I wanted to see if my WiFi is decent enough to properly run one first. My current speeds are 100/100.
@@CincoQuallity 3-6ms locally is very good, especially if it's staying within that range. Latency to the internet is largely down to the quality of the ISP. I used to have an absolutely mega ISP which would consistently be under 10ms, but they couldn't provide full fibre so I had to switch. The current provider is fast, but the MS isn't as good. 35ms will be fine though, as long as you're not an elite FPS gamer where each ms counts (I am definitely not 😆)
@@TheGameFatherUK Alright, thanks for the info. I’d only be playing single player titles anyway, so hopefully it’ll be fine.
Just to clarify, there’s nothing I can do about that 35-40 ms internet latency? That’s entirely on the ISP?
@@CincoQuallity When you say the latency is showing 35-40 do you mean that you're connecting to a server (like a speedtest one or game server) and that locally you're only connecting the device to the router itself?. If that's the case then no matter what you're going to have higher latency when actually using the internet as that's based on your location and how far away you are from the actual physical server you're connecting to which isn't an isp issue but an issue of how physics and distance work. Like for example I live in Australia and if I connect to a server in let's say America to play an online competitive game I will always no matter what be at a huge disadvantage latency wise unless I move to America or the people I play against move to where I am because it takes time for the internet packets to move back and forth such huge distances (about a quarter of a second or about 250ms in my case for example)
Nice video good explanation liked and subbed ps loving my ps portal especially taking it to work on a night shift 😉
Thank you! Getting paid to play the Portal, sign me up! 😁
@@TheGameFatherUK haha u know 😄
there are actually more than 200 games streamable...
Yep, 204 when I counted last night. I really hope Sony keep opening up the library at that rate!
Xbox has been able to offer this streaming ability for years!
Remote play has been available on Sony since 2016. This video is very specifically about streaming from the cloud to the Portal, which itself is only just 12 months old.
On a handheld?
@@mickpratt8327 tablet, phone , pc
Too bad Red Dead Redemption 2 isn’t on that list of games to use my portal without relying on the ps5.
Yes I miss God of War too
Yeah I'm really looking forward to them opening up the catalogue more. The service is already struggling at peak times with capacity so it was perhaps a smart move to roll it out in stages.
BETA !!! Give it time.
Unless their endgame is to actually put their damn games onto their cloud streaming service so you can actually stream them, then I’m not interested. Spoiler: it’s not. If you don’t know what you are doing you are gonna buy that damn thing & get ripped off by Sony’s half assed cloud-based gaming catalogue
PS Premium costs as much as Game pass ultimate with 1/10 of games
Always one of these. Do you go through life around comparing everything you have or like with everything else? It's in beta calm down. Enjoy what you like and leave others to like what they like. Plenty of games you can't get on Xbox here.
What the hell is this micro-stutter crap? I haven't seen this. Is it a router issue? I can see so many people not bothering to upgrade their ISP's router and blaming Sony.
It's a totally different issue to latency. The microstutter is down to a discrepancy of 0.06hz between the Portals screen and the output of remote play via the PS5. There are loads of videos out there demonstrating it, it was definitely a thing, thankfully a thing of the past.
Bitrate is still too low, but I guess you won't notice it either because you were able to ignore the stutter every 10 seconds.
Hmm, I can't agree with you, for a 1080p screen I think the bitrate is perfectly fine. Also, it wasn't ignorance, I genuinely can't see it. Not sure why that is the case for some and not others, but then again, my eyes aren't so great in the first place 🤓
You can see bitrate in a youtube video. It's great irl.
@@tchlin It'S right in front of me, lol.