@@telisah9611Definitely was genuine she’s hurt that her daughter has passed before experiencing more life and too witness life at a older age no parent wants to bury there children before them i can tell the grandmother has some regret on her mind that she may have wished she talked her daughter about too amend certain things but i’m sure her daughter prolly forgave her mother for all that Befo passing away may her soul continue be a blossom nd beautiful soul❤
it just sounded like she was telling the crowd what they wanted to hear. when you’re watching this episode, you don’t see her talking to her grandson, you see her talking to the audience. Her attention and attitude is being talked to by the audience and not her grandson. she has lied on the stage and pushed his feelings aside, barely owning up to it. Like when he explained that he’s hurt and that he just wants to talk to her and it’s hard to because she doesn’t listen she still not listening. all in all, I just don’t think that her feelings were genuine because she doesn’t necessarily show that
I lost my mom when I was 10. The fact that ppl actually bully you for having a mother who passed away is mind boggling. I want Keonie to win so bad🤞🏽💪🏽a beautiful young man ♥️
I lost my mom when I wad 36. I know the pain he us going through. I was defending my mothers honor three days later when someone said some unkind and untrue things about her. Keonie is a sweet gentle soul. Grandma just listen at him.
I'm sorry for your loss my mother died of sickle cell anemia when I was little girl in the bed with me and I've had grownups while I was in foster care say "that's why your mom is dead " so I understand how you feel .
the fact that nana wore both hats alone is highly commendable, and her 5 yr fight to assure her grandkids are solid regardless is hands down love. someday i hope they see eye to eye and come to an understanding of each other
Isn't that what all grandmas are supposed to do? You get nothing in return bc you do things for people you love without expecting something back, if it's truly from your heart.
He lost his mother but SHE lost her daughter. She's grieving and so is he and I think she's angry that she became a mother all over again without help. She's frustrated and so is he. Their relationship is salvageable. It's anger, pain, and lack of communication and understanding. Edit : Ok, some of yall are getting it twisted. Im not minimizing the child's grief. What I'm saying is, she got hit hard TWICE ! She lost her child and NOW she has to raise a child. Neither one of them asked for this and they both need to heal and compromise so that they can build a strong relationship.
But at the end of the day u have to acknowledge that was choice she chose to make that he had 100% no control over and she takes that frustration out on him. She said “ did you ask if I wanna do this?” How could he how could he have made that decision or made u make that decision. He was a child and she was and adult and grieving just explains but putting a child down bc u CHOSE to take on parenthood again is 100% on you! Not that boy.
she was a adult he was a child grieving she got so many years with her daughter he didn’t get that much time with his mom there’s no excuse for her behaviour even if there’s miss communication there’s a clear pattern in her behaviour if he’s saying his aunty has been though this too.
@naysxo249 So because she's an adult, she doesn't have the right to grieve heavily for her daughter? That doesn't make any sense. Their pain is equivalent. Both of their lives changed drastically.
Good job grandma.. when she took accountability and finally said what a lot of old bitter people are feeling .. they just be so tired of being so angry and don’t know why they so angry .. they just be mad for no reason and I’m glad she made that break thru and finally let that hurt out and is open to heal🙏🏾❤️🗣️
I cried all the way through the first story I felt the pain of the grandma and grandson. He need counseling alone. He is so emotionless. He needs a break through. I'm praying for them both.
@@hopey4100 na its possible to monetize what you love, he loves counselling people. Better than bringing down people and shading he actually helping to mend families
@@hopey4100Ever heard of something like “Get a job you love and you’ll never work a day in your life”? You can still be genuinely sympathetic while still getting money. You can still care about what you do and love what you do and just monetizing it so you can do what you love for longer(aka u dont gotta get a side job so u dont go homeless).
A 6 year old doesn’t owe his grandmother anything for raising him. I think she needs some intense trauma therapy. He could benefit from it too. She’s still very angry she lost her daughter but is taking it out on everyone around her. I feel for her. I’ve had 2 of my grandkids in the past and it’s definitely a position where we don’t get the credit we deserve but it’s not the kids we need it from. I love Candace. She has really done the emotional work. You can tell she has got herself healthy from her childhood and has clear boundaries. Felix is a walking red flag and seems to have the potential to be physically violent if he hasn’t been already. He is full of rage especially when he doesn’t get his way.
He owes her respect as a teenager, Kids nowadays can be so disrespectful to everyone, and it’s a shame. He acting like he’s all Innocent,but he’s not. Yeah grandma maybe hard, but you can tell that she loves that boy,
At this point, I can't expect them to respect each other. As you can see, the relationship is broken. Blaming either side isn't going to help. @@margarethill4598
Adrienne has gotta take accountability for her addiction and drug use AND all of her poor decision making and failures...it's not okay that she wants to blame her ex husband for her own actions.
you obviously dont know how easy it is to trick someone into taking drugs, she has her own decision to blame it on him, because personally i would blame both myself and him
Seeing moms and daughters estranged is the saddest thing to watch. I feel like crying. 🥺 For context I lost my own mother in 2015. The way Karamo speaks to their hearts and makes them feel understood is so inspiring. This is a intelligent, caring God sent man here. ❤
this man has gained so much more respect from me after the deekah and adrianne case. where the mother could easily be seen at the victim and the daughter as the bad one, he acknowledged the daughter's feelings too and made sure both of them felt seen and heard. respect to him fr.
Honestly I liked the daughter more. The mom kept blaming the drugs on her dad like she didn’t have a part in actually using them and continuing. Addiction is a disease but the child still needed an apology. She was very aggressive and crude with her talking though. Made you not want to listen
@@yeeterbeeter9548our society is so strange. Why are we judging those who are reacting to their abusers? We are not the ones who have been abused and abandoned and manipulated by her mother and then have to sit there and watch strangers cheer said stranger on. And her mom “kidnapped” her child. That’s triggering af. She’s obviously in pain. I’m not going to police a victim’s response. We gotta stop doing that. And stop using the term aggressive to describe black women in pain. It’s racist.
@@judlynewitit naaaah bro, she is crazy...she needs to see the same therapist she wants her mom to see...she needs her head checked too, she looks like she is the one with Bipolar here, and she won't put the blame on her dad, he's the one who led this beautiful woman astray in the first place, that's a double standard right there...the host was trash too, dude just sat there and watched the ratings go up, and only said the right things literally at the end, that's crazy, he could've mediated that better...and screaming abuse doesn't mean shit, she didn't prove her point on stage, she basically sucks!!
I def didn’t see the daughter as the bad one. I 100% believed the daughter about her mother having a mental illness that she isn’t getting treated for. Bipolar disease can be very serious if not treated. When bipolar people get into their manic stages they can become very reckless and irresponsible and def not safe to be left alone with kids. Her mother also blamed other people (like her baby daddy) for getting on drugs. While I understand that the baby daddy introduced her to the drugs she needs to take accountability for her choosing to start a drug habit while she has a small child to take care of. I could tell from the mother’s behavior that she tends to blame others for her mistakes in life.
Karamo always make it about homophobia. He really does not listen. In the first case the daughter was extremely disrespectful. Would not allow the mother to express her feelings at all. I’m sorry Karamo is not great at this.
It's only one situation where drinking and partying was involved they admitted to being close I will let my children know if their being disrespectful and handle it accordingly but I wouldn't say I wouldn't repair a relationship with them... But then again I wouldn't be having a key to my kids home and get there after 3am the whole situation was petty
@@FromNyo i dont get why its so difficult for these parents to just listen to what these kids are saying. the parents hate how the children are talking to them, they dont care what they are saying and they expect the child to be obedient when they disrespect the child
Grandma's apology has me literally crying. I could feel the remorse. Sometimes people know they messed up but don't know where to start with rebuilding 🖤
The woman Deeka was very nasty Karomo gave her a compliment & her response shows just what kind of person she is. She needs to see the same psychiatrist she wants her mother to see.
My grandma lost her daughter, my mother at 26. I understand not having a mother but I’m so glad I had the best grandmother-mother before she passed last year. I fought for her when she got sick and she got better and I’m so grateful. He needs to grow up and appreciate his granma now. She never got to grieve
Rafael was on my last nerve. He acted more immature than a child. No wonder his son maced him 😂 what a jerk. I hope that young man can heal and move on and be happy. 🙏❤
Masing me cuz your feeling got hurt then expecting me to apologize is insane. Im not going to the lengths duddy went but nah, u start it, i say one word back, you mase me, now I GATTA BE THE ONE KISSING ASS? cant do it….
@@linakamore I’ve already stated im not the one to go as far as rafael, but what they wanted him to do was delusionally absurd. There is no way i would ever apologize to someone for making them want to physically assault me while under the influence😂😂😂😂 especially if that reason was never physical
Oh My! sweetheart...bless your soul, may your soul rest in God. I am so sorry to hear of your lost this year, not too long ago. I do know how you feel. My prayer for you is that God circle you around agape love and agape support all the days or your life. I pray Gods warmly and tender loving care around you and what comes from you. I pray that your future be so blessed with brightness and grace and mercy. i pray that all of your relationships be ordain by God. I pray favor, God favor, and favor just ain't fair. I pray that you discover your destiny and the reason why you were born. I pray that you always be in great housing. I pray God spoils you and show you that he got your back. I pray He fill that mother void in your heart, soul and spirit. i pray that goodness and mercy follow you all the days of your life and that you find the true and living God. Peace be with you, okay and peace keeps you and look out and over you and yours. One last thing, I pray that money never be an issue, money and friendships, genuine friendships. God bless you...
Are you that naive 🤦 smh yes it is.. "if" is saying they didn't mean to.. so they shouldn't have to say that if they say, "if" 👌 very logical.. that's just like saying, "If you felt hurt, I apologize because I didn't mean to." That's doing too much when you can say either, "I apologize if I hurt you." Which is very self explanatory 🙄 Or, "If you felt hurt, I apologize." It's the same thing 💯
@@NickBBBBAre you slow? It's not. “If I hurt you” is like saying “Well I don't think I hurt you but because you think I did🙄” it's literally the same as saying “Well I'm sorry YOU feel that way”
I lost my mother at 35 its NEVER easy no matter how old you are. If you have a mother whos concerned about you and is still alive give her her flowers NOW because you will miss the nagging and phone calls trust me
Truth! My mom was 96 when she passed away--2 days before my 72nd birthday 5 months ago...I gave her EVERYTHING I could before then--and I still find myself saying, "God, I miss my momma. I STILL need her!" I miss hearing her voice, feeling her touch...I miss knowing she needed me and I could be there for her. I miss the concern, her warnings, her direction over the years. Your mom WILL leave you one day, so be loving, kind, and caring before that day comes. YOU WILL FOREVER MISS HER.
KARAMO I CANT WITH YOU!!! If we had 100 of you in the black community, we'd be able to heal our collective trauma. Man. I've been crying all day watching these clips seeing my mom, sister, brother, everyone I know in all these stories. Oh my God.
@@PeggyRabbit32 care to be specific about what part of the statement? I said a few things, most for which was my personal opinion and reaction to Karamo's ability to deal with alot of these toxic individuals...
My heart absolutely broke for Shameka, that deep, raw pain in her cry and watching you pull her in so she knew _at least in that very moment_ she wasnt alone... has genuinely got me here sobbing with her. I hope she gets her happy ever after one day and can look back and realise her worth, know that she deserves the world, and someone to treat her as though shes the be all and end all in that someone elses world. ❤ It will get better Shameka... you got this girl, i promise you do! ❤
That daughter Deka, is of the chain. The mother has paid for her mistakes. She has been clean and sober for 23 years she said. The mother has and is taking responsibility for her actions in the past. That daughter needs to get help forgive her mother. She also needs more help than the mother. Stop yelling and get HELP!!!!
@@dejenaelatrice9364 No I am not and would not want to be in their shoes. I said what I said and that's my opinion which I have a right too, just as you. Yes again the daughter needs help which in this case comes from the LORD and that is too forgive. Praying for us all!🥰💜🦋
She doesn’t deserve better lol. She is not attractive. She is insecure and definitely controlling. She will find a hard time finding man with that attitude and look
I agree Candace is bipolar she shows all the symptoms, I can and do understand her hurt but come now she needs to learn to listen for understanding and not just to respond period.
the mom and seemingly audience doesn’t still mention that a drug addicted parent is hardly a parent. not only is the daughter working towards fixing her own trauma but ALSO has to make sure her child is safe and how can she make sure that her child is safe if she’s doing everything that she has specifically asked her not to do. she saw her mother at her worse and that will always overshadow her best.
The first guy seemed like he wanted Karamo and the crowd to sympathize with only him but I'm glad the Audience and Karmao responded to the Grandmother pouring her heart out just the same. He seems emotionless and detached too. Someone mentioned they need Intense Trauma Therapy and I agree.
But that's probably y he needs the sympathy. If u noticed a few times hard moments were brought up that she either defend, deflected, or began to cry about her trauma instead of directly apologizing or answering the question. That's hard to deal with for a kid She even said hurt people hurt people so she acknowledges that she hurt the child
>Replying to the original comment< The grandma is very emotionally abusive to him, though. That's why he has a wall up about her defense. She uses words to keep him hurt. She expects too much from him, and he is a child. She is an adult
@@FanGurl4TY ❤ Thanks for sharing. 8:00-8:05 I think he said she did that in the past but not in the present. And (12:07-12:23) she admitted to what she could recall. But she said she didn't do it anymore and wasn't making excuses for her actions. So the key solutions would be acknowledgement, acceptance and forgiveness. And I don't think either one of them healed enough to accept and forgive. That's why I agreed with someone else's comment about them BOTH NEEDING Intensive trauma therapy. That's the only way they can move forward in peace.
Candace is Bipolar, she has been diagnosed I feel and she’s upset that her mom could’ve passed that gene to her. It’s like you leave me early, forced to grow up then I get older and lose control to find out I am bipolar. I feel her mother can go off the rails too but she’s matured and it pains her to see that she can be normal after so much pain. ❤
I dunno if Deekah (the daughter) is bipolar but I don’t think how she behaved on that stage was wrong or strange. Clearly she is angry and hurt about a lot of mistakes her mother has done in the past. Being abandoned by your mother because she had an addiction must be incredibly traumatizing. I’m sure many hurtful and traumatizing things have happened between them since. If her mother is bipolar and refusing to acknowledge that or get treatment it’s very understandable that Deekah doesn’t feel safe. If her mother did kidnap her child at some point it’s also very understandable she doesn’t feel her mother is safe for her child.
Candice is what it looks like when you have a toxic dynamic with your mom and there's a objective party present. Years of being gaslit will have you racing to the punch and having all your details in order. The logic is if you get ahead of the gaslighting they don't get the chance to hurt you. Both of them need therapy.
I lost my mom last year at 18 and I could see this could have totally been us. I’ve realized I need to heal bc that dynamic really does fw ur personality
She’s not ok. Because her parents traumatized her. And her mother is sitting there denying that she has a mental illness. Her mother also denies having kidnapped her child.
I deeply disagree. She’s the child of an addict, addicts say anything for sympathy without changing. DEEKAH is just fed up - she had to raise herself. She has every right to be upset.
Even tho grandma is a little toxic, but i wish i had somebody in my corner like her. My great grandmother that raised me passed away when i was 14. And been on my own since. You can see the love she has for her daughter and grandson!
Sharon your such a beautiful grandmother, she made me cry i felt her pain. I really hope her grandson and her will mend their relationship. Your both awesome. Love fo you both
Having had lost a child, I understand Sharon. Giving, giving, giving but when you are in need, no one is there. She never had the opportunity to grieve because she had to jump into being a parent again. She's not resentful towards her grandson, there is pure love but she's exhausted, angry, sad, frustrated, etc. Keonie doesn't quite understand that and as a young adult, we oftentimes only view things from our own perspective. There relationship is mendable because they have genuine love for one another. Therapy would do them well.
He doesn’t understand. I think between his grief, and hardships and he also seems developmentally delayed. I don’t think he understands the weight of what she’s saying. He’s a little selfish, as is she, but to hear her cry out and say “nobody hears me” and he really doesn’t care. He cares about how she’s made him feel. He truly doesn’t understand how to care.
@bronxkies I don't think that's the case. He has been emotionally abused by his mother so much that he has a wall built up emotionally. He probably feels like since she doesn't care about his emotional needs, why should he care about hers. Especially since the grandma keeps deflecting and denying.
I could see that. I see it from both perspectives, actually. I think they are both caught up with their own unresolved emotions and trauma that they aren’t able to come together. They need more sessions to really allow them to take turns speaking without interruption and gained insight into one another.
Nah there’s no next dr phill like there’s no next Karamo. We don’t need another of anything we need individuality and he got it. Karamo needs that spotlight and be among the likes of dr. Phil.
My heart goes out to that grandmother and grandson. As black women we have to be strong always and carry everybody and everything and sometimes it seems like there is no one to carry for us. We’re just expected to do it. That lady loves her grandson to death. I can not imagine losing any of my children.
Deekah/Candice (whatever her name is) should really be embarrassed about her behavior. She’s so immature and loud but she’s saying a bunch of NOTHING 🙄
So your mothers deals with drugs, went prison, stole your 2yr old baby ut your crib, you would still respect your mother? If so im sorry because why would you respect someone who kidnapps because she's family.@@MSFREE2U
Yall just be saying anything on here. Please for the love of God learn empathy for those who are in situations that you aren’t in or never will be in. You’re probably the type of person that gets manipulated easily. I feel sorry for you.
The first family, honestly, I feel for the grandma. If it was me, she would have never have to ask me for some of the money. Period. Split it in three, the big son, the young one and the grandma. She deserves it , that’s her daughter.
The money should be there to help raise him and his sister and not be viewed as a “windfall of cash” for the entire family! Provisions will have to be made for them until adulthood. She said that she WITHDREW her claim, so why ask him for money when she could’ve gotten it from them!!
Right she like lost part of her life having to raise a baby and 6 year old. That a lot rather it’s your grandchildren or not. She probably expected to be done raising kids and she had to take on a whole new responsibility.
i see how you could get that conclusion but i’ve dealt with the mother than candace is describing, and her point adds up but her delivery of that point makes it hard to hear
The father was absolutely wrong for not respecting the rules of his son’s place. Then calling him out of his name. He meant that. He been waiting on a time to say that. If he knew he wasn’t gonna be home at a reasonable time he shouldn’t have took his son’s key. Parents have this sense of entitlement and it’s ridiculous. You cannot go to someone else’s place and make your own rules because you’re a parent. Tf?!
I'm at the age of 55, and regardless of what you respect your parents, regardless. Stop saying thing, and you can't take back. Put that wall down. Stop talking back to your parents and let God deal with them he got you. Many blessings.
Help me leave my boyfriend. 😢 She knows this isn't the first or the last time for this behavior, cheating etc. He lacks respect for her. Girl make sure you use the $500 for your books not lacefronts and nails. Prove yourself worthy of the gift Karamo gave! KARAMO ❤ Your Show!
Bless him!!!! I'm only in the first few minutes- haven't even heard gramma speak yet. But, the shakiness in his voice throughout, completely breaks my heart. I wish there were words that could emulated the feeling of a physical hug... for real. I pray that everyone heals.
What is hilarious and disappointing is the father and son have the same, "I don't care" Attitude but they both care a whole lot. They both have pride and ego issues and refuse to listen. I hope both of them get it together.
The father disrespected the son first by taking his key knowing he wasn’t gonna be home in a reasonable time. Parents have to get their sense of entitlement under control. That was his son’s place so the father have to respect the rules of his son’s place. The father can’t go to his son’s place thinking he sets the rules of how it’s gonna go. Absolutely not.
@@jjdynomite6526 yeah but late for only 40 minutes can't be a reason to shouting and cursing your father. The father also wrong by not attending at time or not respecting the son's rule but making the father as if a bad person also no sense, like without his father he would not have been born in the world, his father also took care of him. It feels like the son have no shame, at least there's no need to get into a physical abuse or just be passion and watch his words. It's a bit too much when he was mad and act like the most victim in this case, just because the father was 40 minutes late, he mocks and push his father out. But at the end of the day they need to apologize to each other lmao
@@luthfaliyazahira4173the father used a word that triggered him It’s not fair for parents to intentionally trigger their children It’s not right what the son did but if the father had apologized for being late, it wouldn’t have gotten to that point You don’t trigger people and expect them to respect you even in anger That’s absurd
Candace needs 2 calm tf down. Had all that s**t 2 say, but not 1nce did she even try 2 acknowledge the fact that her mom's trying 2 change. Give your mother a chance.
Keonie doesn’t owe the grandmother a thing. What as a 6 year old is he supposed to do? I understand she lost a child and I know that’s painful but she needs to seek counseling for that
Hey ain’t Six no more though and the grandma didn’t owe anything to him no one on this earth owe you shit and if they give you something you should take it as a blessing
He should help his grandma with that money! He's being greedy and wanting it all for himself. His grandma didn't have to raise him, and he needs to think about what his life would have been like if she hadn't fought for him and raised him! She didn't have to, but she did it because she loves him. Now she's broke and he should be more than willing to help her out! She shouldn't even have to ask, he should just take it upon himself to help her instead of being greedy with that money. He acts quiet and timid, which makes people think he's innocent, but I see right through that act!
@@silvers_inkno he’s not being selfish. you cant talk to someone crazy and treat them terrible and expect them to give you something.. she made the choice to take him in and he never said he wasn’t grateful for that. As his grandmother she SHOULD have took him in and she knew that so she did
My Grandma was Bipolar and she was the best Grandmother a girl could ask. Incouldnt imagine not having the memories of the hundreds of sleepovers I had at her house. ❤ I miss her so much
The last woman is so sweet and beautiful. I was once a big woman too, and my husband also asked and got a divorce. Girl, let me tell you I litterally starting hauling ass. I got up every morning and pushed myself into a healthy place. I lost 265 lbs and got my self confidence back. When people asked me how I did it. I said Its called D. I. V. O. R. C. E.. I lost a whole person finding myself. And when i did lose I fought like hell and faced my own demons getting my marriage back. I did it and Im never going back to that person again. I loved and still am in love with my best friend. You got to change things when things are interrupted.. Like God said, it shall pass. Love to all
This big girl/child talking to her mom like that is crazy. She needs to heal and get help just like she keep telling her mother. She’s very angry and they need to stay apart
Man this broke me. My heart aches for Keonie and his grandmother. The first 2 stories are just so sad. I pray they're all in a much better place mentally.
Teon called the show to disrespect his dad? That part was crazy to me. I understand the hurt and respect it, but that will NEVER give you the right to hurt someone and get upset with how they respond. The dad tried and teon was closed.
Im still crying from episode i watched previously, these shows helps alot of us we grieving and nobody knows... u helping me trying to heal with me and my daughter thanks karamo
I wanna tell everyone whatever you’re going through talk to someone who you trust and listen to you your problem,do something fun that makes you happy❤💜💚
I see a lot of people pooping on Deekah but yall fail to realize is we don’t know what her mother actually put her through. Just because the mom was calm doesn’t mean she lacks mental illness or is absolved from being disrespectful of her daughters boundaries. You can always put on a calm face for others but she can’t hide from her daughter who was there and who knows what the conversation between Deekah and her Dad looked like.
I agree. I felt like her daughter’s anger came from having been gaslit by her mother many many times. “Forgetting” what she has said and done in the past and just expecting their relationship to be mended. Why would her daughter make up that she has a bipolar diagnosis? Why would her daughter make up that her mother used to have a prescription? Why would her daughter make up that her mother abducted her child? I think it’s wild so many people watched this video and all they noticed was that the daughter was angry so they assumed the daughter must just be a bully and a bad person.
Even if her mother is in the wrong, it still doesn't give her the right to disrespect her mother! I can't believe the nerve she had to tell her mother that she had to earn her respect! If she feels that her mother is toxic then I understand keeping her distance from her, but there's no excuse for her disrespecting her mother like that. It's totally unacceptable.
I felt sorry for the last guy. As an African living in Africa, I understand how frustrating it can be to leave your family to go start a life with your foreign wife and then have to get put down by her all the time. Most foreigners think they do Africans a favour by marrying and bringing us to their country but it’s not always the case. We Africans understand the importance of respect in a household. If she couldn’t deal with the fact that he came from Africa, she shouldn’t have married him. Constantly reminding him of the fact is such disgusting behaviour. Talking down on him with her friends is adding insult to injury. No man deserves such a wife. She didn’t do him a favour by marrying him and so deserves no gratitude. Much respect for my African brother for putting his foot down and demanding for that divorce, and if he comes back home, he’s going to be alright.
you have no idea what she’s done to her or she’s been through drugs make people evil that stuff sticks in your brain just bc it’s “over” and their sober now doesn’t mean you can just forget.
Deka has lived with the pain her mother has caused and now momma wants Deka to just "move on". Deka's approach is straight up mean at this point she needs counseling to navigate her way through it.
This girl is not going to leave long. She is bitter, busy, and unforgiven. She feels untouchable. Her mother made a mistake, but there is nothing that can not be forgiven.
I thought that at first but if you listen she never had time to grieve her daughter because she had to step up and take care of her grandkids. And even the he said about court “she was the only one strong enough to relive it” she was being strong for everyone and no one gave her a moment to just fall apart about having lost her child
@@SmileyBug100that’s why it’s important to take care of your mental health before taking it out on children. There are a lot of parents and grandparents, Gen X and Boomers, who got used to swallowing their feelings and, in turn, took that pain out onto people they cared about or their children/grandchildren. It’s a trauma cycle.
The grandma attacking her grandson is insane. As a boy, he could never hit her back or defend himself without him looking like a bad guy. This is sad 😢. All of this emotional abuse is why he seems so emotionless
My prayers for you guys... No time will ever make you miss her less... But know that you will see her again one day.... Lots of love and hugs too you guys❤️
@@vickyserrfor being on drugs, for stealing her childhood from her since her mom was on drugs with her abisive ex to both of them, the. Taking her child with no permission… yeah I think that may be why
Candace was exactly right - her mom got everyone in the comments in the palm of her hand. Candace’s reactions are a product of growing up with a parent like that. That mom didn’t own any of her wrong doings. Her addiction was her husbands fault. She wants her daughter to forget the past w/o apologizing or acknowledging Candace’s feelings.
Fr there's even people calling CANDACE the bipolar one. And none of them are psychiatrists and have no business calling anyone bipolar (the mom included), and acting like Candace getting angry at the mom for picking up her son was out of pocket. If someone you viewed as unstable/unreliable picked up your son without permission, any good parent would be furious!!
It's the disrespect the daughter gave that made me turn against her. No matter how you feel you have to be respectful in your approach is you want to make any meaningful improvements.
Girl w the Boyfriend... she isnt addicted she has ZERO self esteem and she gets through the pain of feeling like nothing but finding pity parties. If she cared about herself more than him she would move out of chaos instead of waiting for someone else to move.
I have watched this before but after seeing it again and hearing from the grandmother it reminds me of this tik tok I saw my heart breaks because for the first time I realized that when a parent loses a child there is no word to describe it. He is an orphan, a spouse lost is a widow but when you lose a child nothing. What I hear her say is that no one is there for her…everyone needs something from her and she has no one. This is so sad! He is old enough to grant a little grace her way…she has raised him since him for 10 years.
First guests: Is it about the love or the money? Yes she lost her daughter but he lost his mom. He doesn't owe her money. If he wants to give her a token of appreciation then thats totally fine but he doesn't owe her half. She deflecting that she fat shamed him, by focusing on the bullying at school. I believe she said all of the mean, nasty and hurtful things he said she did. I think they both love one another. They need counseling and therapy. They are going to be ok.
I don’t think her expectations were behind some sort of monetary reward. It was what the money symbolized. Her daughters death will not be swept up. It was the hospitals fault and she wanted them to be punished. Winning would mean , her daughter didn’t die in vain. It wasn’t for nothing, and at 6 he knew the sadness, but didn’t understand the fight that had to be done in order for him to live comfortably. Since she was the one who advocated, and used her resources to takes care of her grandson. She didn’t have to raise them. All that money for school, food clothes shelter etc… for someone else’s kid. Yes, she should get some compensation.
@@danajataylor8864 Everyone grieves and reacts differently after a death of a loved one. Maybe you or I would have fought harder, but maybe at that time she didn't have the will or strength.
I was 51 when I lost my mom, and that was a hard for me I can’t imagine what he went through at 6. Damn the daughter acts like she’s the one withmental illness
He's so intelligent, well spoken. I pray 🙏 that God will heal and rebuild their relationship. And that all is/will be well with them and their family. Special prayers for the little sister as well!!❤❤ I hope she doesn't feel responsible for her mother's death😢😢
The first lady just needs support, someone she can talk to or just even sit and listen to. Yes, he lost his mom, but she lost her child. She didn't get to grieve. She had to step up and take care of her grandkids with nobody to lean on. Yes, her anger is misplaced, and she is full of pain. People only see her as an angry black woman who does not care about anything but herself, which is just not true.
Grandma's apology was so genuine. You could feel it.
Meee tooooo! I cried when she was honest about her not knowing why she be so mad.
@@telisah9611Definitely was genuine she’s hurt that her daughter has passed before experiencing more life and too witness life at a older age no parent wants to bury there children before them i can tell the grandmother has some regret on her mind that she may have wished she talked her daughter about too amend certain things but i’m sure her daughter prolly forgave her mother for all that Befo passing away may her soul continue be a blossom nd beautiful soul❤
it just sounded like she was telling the crowd what they wanted to hear. when you’re watching this episode, you don’t see her talking to her grandson, you see her talking to the audience. Her attention and attitude is being talked to by the audience and not her grandson. she has lied on the stage and pushed his feelings aside, barely owning up to it. Like when he explained that he’s hurt and that he just wants to talk to her and it’s hard to because she doesn’t listen she still not listening. all in all, I just don’t think that her feelings were genuine because she doesn’t necessarily show that
@@wellcertainly4403agreed 100%
It made me cry
This show is truly teaching me that forgiveness is freedom
I lost my mom when I was 10. The fact that ppl actually bully you for having a mother who passed away is mind boggling. I want Keonie to win so bad🤞🏽💪🏽a beautiful young man ♥️
It made me tear up 😞he’s such a sweet soul
I lost my mom when I wad 36. I know the pain he us going through. I was defending my mothers honor three days later when someone said some unkind and untrue things about her. Keonie is a sweet gentle soul. Grandma just listen at him.
Am sorry for losing your mom but have to defend your self
He’s a lil faggy victim blaming . Like all gay black men.
I'm sorry for your loss my mother died of sickle cell anemia when I was little girl in the bed with me and I've had grownups while I was in foster care say "that's why your mom is dead " so I understand how you feel .
the fact that nana wore both hats alone is highly commendable, and her 5 yr fight to assure her grandkids are solid regardless is hands down love. someday i hope they see eye to eye and come to an understanding of each other
Isn't that what all grandmas are supposed to do? You get nothing in return bc you do things for people you love without expecting something back, if it's truly from your heart.
A parent should never have to bury their child. Grandmas apology was so genuine I cried while watching it.
I’m still crying 😭
Me too i felt her pain
Same😭
He lost his mother but SHE lost her daughter. She's grieving and so is he and I think she's angry that she became a mother all over again without help. She's frustrated and so is he. Their relationship is salvageable. It's anger, pain, and lack of communication and understanding.
Edit : Ok, some of yall are getting it twisted. Im not minimizing the child's grief. What I'm saying is, she got hit hard TWICE ! She lost her child and NOW she has to raise a child. Neither one of them asked for this and they both need to heal and compromise so that they can build a strong relationship.
But at the end of the day u have to acknowledge that was choice she chose to make that he had 100% no control over and she takes that frustration out on him. She said “ did you ask if I wanna do this?” How could he how could he have made that decision or made u make that decision. He was a child and she was and adult and grieving just explains but putting a child down bc u CHOSE to take on parenthood again is 100% on you! Not that boy.
Yes. I feel so sad for them both. I lost my best friend and her daughter and mom have been struggling emotionally. I can relate to them.
@@niqueetime4u551Ouu baby you ate👏🏽 iktr clock that TEA
she was a adult he was a child grieving she got so many years with her daughter he didn’t get that much time with his mom there’s no excuse for her behaviour even if there’s miss communication there’s a clear pattern in her behaviour if he’s saying his aunty has been though this too.
@naysxo249 So because she's an adult, she doesn't have the right to grieve heavily for her daughter? That doesn't make any sense. Their pain is equivalent. Both of their lives changed drastically.
Good job grandma.. when she took accountability and finally said what a lot of old bitter people are feeling .. they just be so tired of being so angry and don’t know why they so angry .. they just be mad for no reason and I’m glad she made that break thru and finally let that hurt out and is open to heal🙏🏾❤️🗣️
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I think its because EARTH is tiresome after 4o years i mean whew
They're tired. They take care of kids and grands. They are just tired.
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Yes, you should give her something
I cried all the way through the first story I felt the pain of the grandma and grandson. He need counseling alone. He is so emotionless. He needs a break through. I'm praying for them both.
Yea he need to get away
@@NovemberTroxlerhe has no parents he should connect with the grandmother
Literally I was boo-boo crying 🥺
Like frfr he’s so tense and self centered 😭😭😭😭
@@grimling7432self centered? That’s insensitive
Whew chiiile Deeka went from 0 to 100 real quick 😳. WOWWAH!!!! Deeka got anger and resentment. They both need counseling separately.
agreed
Right she needs to let all that anger and resentment go the two worst things to carry
@@lorrainereprogramshermind1821 She wasn't even TRYING. She just came to make her mama look bad
Karamo is a gift. He is so wise! I love you Karamo! You’re touching ppls lives all over with this wisdom.
Karamo has earned my respect as a TV host. Called out that cheater and told off the audience for falling for it.
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@@tcrump212IsLmbrJck_t 58:59
Lol he lost my respect with the pink sauce lady 🤷🏽♀️
Oop
But you’re still watching!@@namegame-b9f
You can just look at Karamo and see in his eyes that he really cares about people.
What eyes are you looking at? He see's this as a check. Pretending to be sympathetic requires minimal effort when money is involved!
@@hopey4100 na its possible to monetize what you love, he loves counselling people. Better than bringing down people and shading he actually helping to mend families
@@fithealthyme101Amen ❤
@@hopey4100Ever heard of something like “Get a job you love and you’ll never work a day in your life”? You can still be genuinely sympathetic while still getting money. You can still care about what you do and love what you do and just monetizing it so you can do what you love for longer(aka u dont gotta get a side job so u dont go homeless).
Yes he’s definitely genuine and good hearted. God bless him ❤
A 6 year old doesn’t owe his grandmother anything for raising him. I think she needs some intense trauma therapy. He could benefit from it too. She’s still very angry she lost her daughter but is taking it out on everyone around her. I feel for her. I’ve had 2 of my grandkids in the past and it’s definitely a position where we don’t get the credit we deserve but it’s not the kids we need it from.
I love Candace. She has really done the emotional work. You can tell she has got herself healthy from her childhood and has clear boundaries.
Felix is a walking red flag and seems to have the potential to be physically violent if he hasn’t been already. He is full of rage especially when he doesn’t get his way.
All of these people need long-term therapy. Unfortunately, socio economic barriers prevent many people from receiving the mental help they need.
@@jjayguy23In America, there's ways to get that help for FREE. So there's no excuse.
Good therapists are generally not free. Just being honest.@@silvers_ink
He owes her respect as a teenager, Kids nowadays can be so disrespectful to everyone, and it’s a shame. He acting like he’s all Innocent,but he’s not. Yeah grandma maybe hard, but you can tell that she loves that boy,
At this point, I can't expect them to respect each other. As you can see, the relationship is broken. Blaming either side isn't going to help. @@margarethill4598
Adrienne has gotta take accountability for her addiction and drug use AND all of her poor decision making and failures...it's not okay that she wants to blame her ex husband for her own actions.
But he got her hooked and crack is addictive so I feel like she spiraled but deeka only blaming her mother for this is weird she need help
you obviously dont know how easy it is to trick someone into taking drugs, she has her own decision to blame it on him, because personally i would blame both myself and him
@@naynyyyy06she chose to do those drugs. Stop making excuses for that crack head.
@@naynyyyy06 thats when you leave the relationship and put your kids first. you are responsible for your actions and who you allow to influence you
Seeing moms and daughters estranged is the saddest thing to watch. I feel like crying. 🥺 For context I lost my own mother in 2015. The way Karamo speaks to their hearts and makes them feel understood is so inspiring. This is a intelligent, caring God sent man here. ❤
this man has gained so much more respect from me after the deekah and adrianne case. where the mother could easily be seen at the victim and the daughter as the bad one, he acknowledged the daughter's feelings too and made sure both of them felt seen and heard. respect to him fr.
Honestly I liked the daughter more. The mom kept blaming the drugs on her dad like she didn’t have a part in actually using them and continuing. Addiction is a disease but the child still needed an apology. She was very aggressive and crude with her talking though. Made you not want to listen
@@yeeterbeeter9548our society is so strange. Why are we judging those who are reacting to their abusers? We are not the ones who have been abused and abandoned and manipulated by her mother and then have to sit there and watch strangers cheer said stranger on. And her mom “kidnapped” her child. That’s triggering af. She’s obviously in pain. I’m not going to police a victim’s response. We gotta stop doing that. And stop using the term aggressive to describe black women in pain. It’s racist.
@@judlynewitit naaaah bro, she is crazy...she needs to see the same therapist she wants her mom to see...she needs her head checked too, she looks like she is the one with Bipolar here, and she won't put the blame on her dad, he's the one who led this beautiful woman astray in the first place, that's a double standard right there...the host was trash too, dude just sat there and watched the ratings go up, and only said the right things literally at the end, that's crazy, he could've mediated that better...and screaming abuse doesn't mean shit, she didn't prove her point on stage, she basically sucks!!
I def didn’t see the daughter as the bad one. I 100% believed the daughter about her mother having a mental illness that she isn’t getting treated for. Bipolar disease can be very serious if not treated. When bipolar people get into their manic stages they can become very reckless and irresponsible and def not safe to be left alone with kids. Her mother also blamed other people (like her baby daddy) for getting on drugs. While I understand that the baby daddy introduced her to the drugs she needs to take accountability for her choosing to start a drug habit while she has a small child to take care of. I could tell from the mother’s behavior that she tends to blame others for her mistakes in life.
The daughter is the one who's displaying behavior of mental illness.@@yeeterbeeter9548
The first story was so touching, grandma definitely has room to grow and I think she can but she definitely loves her grandson and got his back!
The way Karomo scooched back when he couldn’t through to that man. That was telling
Karamo always make it about homophobia. He really does not listen. In the first case the daughter was extremely disrespectful. Would not allow the mother to express her feelings at all. I’m sorry Karamo is not great at this.
It's only one situation where drinking and partying was involved they admitted to being close I will let my children know if their being disrespectful and handle it accordingly but I wouldn't say I wouldn't repair a relationship with them... But then again I wouldn't be having a key to my kids home and get there after 3am the whole situation was petty
@@FromNyo i dont get why its so difficult for these parents to just listen to what these kids are saying. the parents hate how the children are talking to them, they dont care what they are saying and they expect the child to be obedient when they disrespect the child
@@ly3998is it disrespectful or just not your situation so you don’t carry her pain or understanding ?
@@FromNyop
There is a lot of pain in these people. I can relate. May we all heal.
Grandma's apology has me literally crying. I could feel the remorse. Sometimes people know they messed up but don't know where to start with rebuilding 🖤
That was deeply heartfelt!💚🍃
My grandmother was and still is extremely abusive and the worst part is that old people can forget what they did and never apologize
They don’t forget
They don’t care
And are narcissistic
Some don’t forget
God bless you both. Try to forgive her and live your best life. You can make up your mind to be a better Mother and Grandmother for your babies. ❤😊
Some will forget and don't care if you are hurt and feel some type of way about it
This woman is not abusive. She is also grieving and needs to be loved as well.
The woman Deeka was very nasty Karomo gave her a compliment & her response shows just what kind of person she is. She needs to see the same psychiatrist she wants her mother to see.
You are so so right. I hope she seeks help for the sake of her son because she’s, bitter, rude and not ok!
She is 😢 Deeka is the problem
So true
Facts.. her mental health issues seems worst than her mother but then again those issue stems from her mother
I agree with everything else, but the first thing. The compliment thing, she was just affirming what he said.
My grandma lost her daughter, my mother at 26. I understand not having a mother but I’m so glad I had the best grandmother-mother before she passed last year. I fought for her when she got sick and she got better and I’m so grateful. He needs to grow up and appreciate his granma now. She never got to grieve
Rafael was on my last nerve. He acted more immature than a child. No wonder his son maced him 😂 what a jerk. I hope that young man can heal and move on and be happy. 🙏❤
Masing me cuz your feeling got hurt then expecting me to apologize is insane. Im not going to the lengths duddy went but nah, u start it, i say one word back, you mase me, now I GATTA BE THE ONE KISSING ASS? cant do it….
@@Eastsidebozzy Hey there Rafael
@@linakamore I’ve already stated im not the one to go as far as rafael, but what they wanted him to do was delusionally absurd. There is no way i would ever apologize to someone for making them want to physically assault me while under the influence😂😂😂😂 especially if that reason was never physical
@@linakamore please dont be this delusional, as you can see it could make your life much more difficult then it has to be….
Gotta try 😂😂😂😂@@linakamore
I lost my mommy June 7 2024 😭 she can never be replaced, but I’m blessed to have her for 38 yrs. R.I.P Mommy😢
So sorry for your loss!
Oh My! sweetheart...bless your soul, may your soul rest in God. I am so sorry to hear of your lost this year, not too long ago. I do know how you feel. My prayer for you is that God circle you around agape love and agape support all the days or your life. I pray Gods warmly and tender loving care around you and what comes from you. I pray that your future be so blessed with brightness and grace and mercy. i pray that all of your relationships be ordain by God. I pray favor, God favor, and favor just ain't fair. I pray that you discover your destiny and the reason why you were born. I pray that you always be in great housing. I pray God spoils you and show you that he got your back. I pray He fill that mother void in your heart, soul and spirit. i pray that goodness and mercy follow you all the days of your life and that you find the true and living God. Peace be with you, okay and peace keeps you and look out and over you and yours. One last thing, I pray that money never be an issue, money and friendships, genuine friendships. God bless you...
“I apologize IF I hurt you” is not an apology.
Exactly. It should be ‘I apologise FOR hurting you’ imo
Exactly, I don't accept apologies if it has the word "if" in it. I'm telling you how you hurt me, now acknowledged it, and "if" shouldn't be on it
Are you that naive 🤦 smh yes it is.. "if" is saying they didn't mean to.. so they shouldn't have to say that if they say, "if" 👌 very logical.. that's just like saying, "If you felt hurt, I apologize because I didn't mean to." That's doing too much when you can say either, "I apologize if I hurt you." Which is very self explanatory 🙄 Or, "If you felt hurt, I apologize." It's the same thing 💯
I would take it 😊
@@NickBBBBAre you slow? It's not. “If I hurt you” is like saying “Well I don't think I hurt you but because you think I did🙄” it's literally the same as saying “Well I'm sorry YOU feel that way”
I lost my mother at 35 its NEVER easy no matter how old you are. If you have a mother whos concerned about you and is still alive give her her flowers NOW because you will miss the nagging and phone calls trust me
@jarvisfrederick4315 I know the feeling about losing a mother, because I've lost my mother too, and it is a hurting feeling 💔 to lose a mother 👩🏾
Yes, I know I do.
Just made me tell my mum i love her again and again
Truth! My mom was 96 when she passed away--2 days before my 72nd birthday 5 months ago...I gave her EVERYTHING I could before then--and I still find myself saying, "God, I miss my momma. I STILL need her!" I miss hearing her voice, feeling her touch...I miss knowing she needed me and I could be there for her. I miss the concern, her warnings, her direction over the years. Your mom WILL leave you one day, so be loving, kind, and caring before that day comes. YOU WILL FOREVER MISS HER.
I know the feeling my mom passed away when I was 20 I’m 26 now it still hurts I can’t let her go.😩
Deekah has to meet her mother now and let go of the mother she used to know. Deekah has a trauma,pain and anger and they both need help.
KARAMO I CANT WITH YOU!!! If we had 100 of you in the black community, we'd be able to heal our collective trauma. Man. I've been crying all day watching these clips seeing my mom, sister, brother, everyone I know in all these stories. Oh my God.
I can understand your love for Karamo but this is an inaccurate statement
@@PeggyRabbit32 care to be specific about what part of the statement? I said a few things, most for which was my personal opinion and reaction to Karamo's ability to deal with alot of these toxic individuals...
My heart absolutely broke for Shameka, that deep, raw pain in her cry and watching you pull her in so she knew _at least in that very moment_ she wasnt alone... has genuinely got me here sobbing with her.
I hope she gets her happy ever after one day and can look back and realise her worth, know that she deserves the world, and someone to treat her as though shes the be all and end all in that someone elses world. ❤
It will get better Shameka... you got this girl, i promise you do! ❤
That daughter Deka, is of the chain. The mother has paid for her mistakes. She has been clean and sober for 23 years she said. The mother has and is taking responsibility for her actions in the past. That daughter needs to get help forgive her mother. She also needs more help than the mother. Stop yelling and get HELP!!!!
Just like the rest of the world. Thinking you can dictate peoples feelings and emotions and how they process. You are not in these peoples shoes !!!
Infact she's the problem not the mama
@@dejenaelatrice9364 No I am not and would not want to be in their shoes. I said what I said and that's my opinion which I have a right too, just as you. Yes again the daughter needs help which in this case comes from the LORD and that is too forgive. Praying for us all!🥰💜🦋
@@dejenaelatrice9364it’s not dictating it’s opening your fucking eyes deka need to grow the fuck up and let it go life goes on get over it
the daughter deca need help herself
Shamika breaking down broke me. I see how the audience connected to her. She is so sweet and deserves better.
She doesn’t deserve better lol. She is not attractive. She is insecure and definitely controlling. She will find a hard time finding man with that attitude and look
NO SHE DON'T DESERVE SHIT
Candace is the bipolar one. That mother needs to leave Candace and her son alone.
I agree Candace is bipolar she shows all the symptoms, I can and do understand her hurt but come now she needs to learn to listen for understanding and not just to respond period.
I don't care, there's no excuse for her disrespecting her mother! Period!
Deekah is the one who won't listen
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Agree. Her mom needs to adopt another family and find her soul tribe
"hurt people, hurt people" so simple but what an impactful sentence...
the mom and seemingly audience doesn’t still mention that a drug addicted parent is hardly a parent. not only is the daughter working towards fixing her own trauma but ALSO has to make sure her child is safe and how can she make sure that her child is safe if she’s doing everything that she has specifically asked her not to do. she saw her mother at her worse and that will always overshadow her best.
The first guy seemed like he wanted Karamo and the crowd to sympathize with only him but I'm glad the Audience and Karmao responded to the Grandmother pouring her heart out just the same.
He seems emotionless and detached too. Someone mentioned they need Intense Trauma Therapy and I agree.
He's still very young and he's hurting. Both need therapy
But that's probably y he needs the sympathy. If u noticed a few times hard moments were brought up that she either defend, deflected, or began to cry about her trauma instead of directly apologizing or answering the question. That's hard to deal with for a kid
She even said hurt people hurt people so she acknowledges that she hurt the child
@@naylaw1928 Oh yes. That's true too. I don't think I noticed it before. Thanks for your comment. I agree.
>Replying to the original comment< The grandma is very emotionally abusive to him, though. That's why he has a wall up about her defense. She uses words to keep him hurt. She expects too much from him, and he is a child. She is an adult
@@FanGurl4TY
❤ Thanks for sharing.
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I think he said she did that in the past but not in the present.
And (12:07-12:23)
she admitted to what she could recall. But she said she didn't do it anymore and wasn't making excuses for her actions.
So the key solutions would be acknowledgement, acceptance and forgiveness. And I don't think either one of them healed enough to accept and forgive. That's why I agreed with someone else's comment about them BOTH NEEDING Intensive trauma therapy. That's the only way they can move forward in peace.
Candace is Bipolar, she has been diagnosed I feel and she’s upset that her mom could’ve passed that gene to her. It’s like you leave me early, forced to grow up then I get older and lose control to find out I am bipolar. I feel her mother can go off the rails too but she’s matured and it pains her to see that she can be normal after so much pain. ❤
Yet she has all of that anger for her mother and not her father.
@@victoriahollister6875her father wasn’t there? It would have been weird for her to sit and yell at the father who wasn’t on that stage…?
I dunno if Deekah (the daughter) is bipolar but I don’t think how she behaved on that stage was wrong or strange. Clearly she is angry and hurt about a lot of mistakes her mother has done in the past. Being abandoned by your mother because she had an addiction must be incredibly traumatizing. I’m sure many hurtful and traumatizing things have happened between them since. If her mother is bipolar and refusing to acknowledge that or get treatment it’s very understandable that Deekah doesn’t feel safe. If her mother did kidnap her child at some point it’s also very understandable she doesn’t feel her mother is safe for her child.
Greatttttt observation. I agree completely. I wonder if Candace is indeed bipolar.
I thought so.
Keonie episode literally had me non stop crying, I feel for both of them and pray they can fix their relationship
Sir, your eloquent nature to dissect and deliver is TREMENDOUSLY real. You are my age but i still see you as one of my public mentors.
Candice is what it looks like when you have a toxic dynamic with your mom and there's a objective party present. Years of being gaslit will have you racing to the punch and having all your details in order. The logic is if you get ahead of the gaslighting they don't get the chance to hurt you. Both of them need therapy.
I lost my mom last year at 18 and I could see this could have totally been us. I’ve realized I need to heal bc that dynamic really does fw ur personality
Candice seems to be the one who is not ok
She’s a bully, I don’t have any sympathy for her,because she’s so disrespectful to her mother. She’s the one who needs a pill.
@@margarethill4598exactly
I think we all agree with that!! She's so disrespectful and won't let her mom speak 😢
She’s not ok. Because her parents traumatized her. And her mother is sitting there denying that she has a mental illness. Her mother also denies having kidnapped her child.
I deeply disagree. She’s the child of an addict, addicts say anything for sympathy without changing. DEEKAH is just fed up - she had to raise herself. She has every right to be upset.
Even tho grandma is a little toxic, but i wish i had somebody in my corner like her. My great grandmother that raised me passed away when i was 14. And been on my own since. You can see the love she has for her daughter and grandson!
Sharon your such a beautiful grandmother, she made me cry i felt her pain. I really hope her grandson and her will mend their relationship. Your both awesome. Love fo you both
I love grandma so much. She is so intelligent and introspective. She shouldn’t have had to be as strong as she was. She is a gift.
Having had lost a child, I understand Sharon. Giving, giving, giving but when you are in need, no one is there. She never had the opportunity to grieve because she had to jump into being a parent again. She's not resentful towards her grandson, there is pure love but she's exhausted, angry, sad, frustrated, etc. Keonie doesn't quite understand that and as a young adult, we oftentimes only view things from our own perspective. There relationship is mendable because they have genuine love for one another. Therapy would do them well.
He doesn’t understand. I think between his grief, and hardships and he also seems developmentally delayed. I don’t think he understands the weight of what she’s saying. He’s a little selfish, as is she, but to hear her cry out and say “nobody hears me” and he really doesn’t care. He cares about how she’s made him feel. He truly doesn’t understand how to care.
@@bronxkies I 100% agree!
If she has legal custody of her grandkids there should have been SSI/SSD for all the kids, so much was for the kids so much to her
@bronxkies I don't think that's the case. He has been emotionally abused by his mother so much that he has a wall built up emotionally. He probably feels like since she doesn't care about his emotional needs, why should he care about hers. Especially since the grandma keeps deflecting and denying.
I could see that. I see it from both perspectives, actually. I think they are both caught up with their own unresolved emotions and trauma that they aren’t able to come together. They need more sessions to really allow them to take turns speaking without interruption and gained insight into one another.
Karamo is the bomb 💣🙌🏾 He definitely deserve's an Award for his work.🙌🏾❤️ I love you Karamo.❤️
Karamo needs to be the next Dr.phill he’s more real and I can see the sincerity in his eyes ❤
Shoot..he's better than dr Phil
Nah there’s no next dr phill like there’s no next Karamo. We don’t need another of anything we need individuality and he got it. Karamo needs that spotlight and be among the likes of dr. Phil.
Absolutely!
Oh yes!
He's waaayyy better.... than Dr. Phil....
My heart goes out to that grandmother and grandson. As black women we have to be strong always and carry everybody and everything and sometimes it seems like there is no one to carry for us. We’re just expected to do it. That lady loves her grandson to death. I can not imagine losing any of my children.
We don’t have to be strong as black women. Sometimes I wanna be “weak” and so people that we can be vulnerable.
This is so true, nobody checks for the strong, crazy how black women are brought up to BE STRONG.. Later this damages us and our children smh 😢😢😢
Poor Shamika,I felt her pain. Beautiful black queen deserves peace and love
Deekah/Candice (whatever her name is) should really be embarrassed about her behavior. She’s so immature and loud but she’s saying a bunch of NOTHING 🙄
I strongly disagree
I so agree. She wants all the respect and refuses to give her mom any grace or respect in return. You have to start somewhere smh
So your mothers deals with drugs, went prison, stole your 2yr old baby ut your crib, you would still respect your mother? If so im sorry because why would you respect someone who kidnapps because she's family.@@MSFREE2U
Yall just be saying anything on here. Please for the love of God learn empathy for those who are in situations that you aren’t in or never will be in. You’re probably the type of person that gets manipulated easily. I feel sorry for you.
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The first family, honestly, I feel for the grandma. If it was me, she would have never have to ask me for some of the money. Period. Split it in three, the big son, the young one and the grandma. She deserves it , that’s her daughter.
Yes I believe the grandma should get some of the money, no questions asked
The money should be there to help raise him and his sister and not be viewed as a “windfall of cash” for the entire family! Provisions will have to be made for them until adulthood. She said that she WITHDREW her claim, so why ask him for money when she could’ve gotten it from them!!
Right she like lost part of her life having to raise a baby and 6 year old. That a lot rather it’s your grandchildren or not. She probably expected to be done raising kids and she had to take on a whole new responsibility.
Me too, I feel sorry for the grandma.
I agree...
Last one had everyone in tears. Hope she finds peace and her true self worth 🙏❤️
I just love Karamo❤️❤️ I know his friends are grateful for him! A friend you should cherish forever ❤❤❤❤
The first grandmother heart is showing ❤❤ God bless their soul and heal them deep wounds, amen 🙏🏾
Candice WANTS their to be something wrong with her mom. The mom needs to leave it alone, your grandson will come find you eventually
i see how you could get that conclusion but i’ve dealt with the mother than candace is describing, and her point adds up but her delivery of that point makes it hard to hear
*a mother like candace’s
sorry
The father was absolutely wrong for not respecting the rules of his son’s place. Then calling him out of his name. He meant that. He been waiting on a time to say that. If he knew he wasn’t gonna be home at a reasonable time he shouldn’t have took his son’s key. Parents have this sense of entitlement and it’s ridiculous. You cannot go to someone else’s place and make your own rules because you’re a parent. Tf?!
i can understand that but massing the man thats too much thats too far cuz the dad didn’t say anything disrespectful until he got hurt too
I'm at the age of 55, and regardless of what you respect your parents, regardless. Stop saying thing, and you can't take back. Put that wall down. Stop talking back to your parents and let God deal with them he got you. Many blessings.
The last couple she not gonna leave.She is not leaving. She is so weak
Help me leave my boyfriend. 😢 She knows this isn't the first or the last time for this behavior, cheating etc. He lacks respect for her. Girl make sure you use the $500 for your books not lacefronts and nails. Prove yourself worthy of the gift Karamo gave!
KARAMO ❤ Your Show!
This world is half 🍑 backwards😂
Bless him!!!! I'm only in the first few minutes- haven't even heard gramma speak yet. But, the shakiness in his voice throughout, completely breaks my heart. I wish there were words that could emulated the feeling of a physical hug... for real. I pray that everyone heals.
"She just came at me like a wild beast" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What is hilarious and disappointing is the father and son have the same, "I don't care" Attitude but they both care a whole lot. They both have pride and ego issues and refuse to listen. I hope both of them get it together.
Right ! They both need to apologize to each other. Rekindling things without an apology from the son was the problem.
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The father disrespected the son first by taking his key knowing he wasn’t gonna be home in a reasonable time. Parents have to get their sense of entitlement under control. That was his son’s place so the father have to respect the rules of his son’s place. The father can’t go to his son’s place thinking he sets the rules of how it’s gonna go. Absolutely not.
@@jjdynomite6526 yeah but late for only 40 minutes can't be a reason to shouting and cursing your father. The father also wrong by not attending at time or not respecting the son's rule but making the father as if a bad person also no sense, like without his father he would not have been born in the world, his father also took care of him. It feels like the son have no shame, at least there's no need to get into a physical abuse or just be passion and watch his words. It's a bit too much when he was mad and act like the most victim in this case, just because the father was 40 minutes late, he mocks and push his father out. But at the end of the day they need to apologize to each other lmao
@@luthfaliyazahira4173the father used a word that triggered him
It’s not fair for parents to intentionally trigger their children
It’s not right what the son did but if the father had apologized for being late, it wouldn’t have gotten to that point
You don’t trigger people and expect them to respect you even in anger
That’s absurd
Candace needs 2 calm tf down. Had all that s**t 2 say, but not 1nce did she even try 2 acknowledge the fact that her mom's trying 2 change. Give your mother a chance.
Give your child a chance Candice i would be worried about the child he is possible to be hurt by Candice with all the anger she has against her mother
@@cherylbattle4901 Good point👍
She needs help and has no respect
Keonie doesn’t owe the grandmother a thing. What as a 6 year old is he supposed to do? I understand she lost a child and I know that’s painful but she needs to seek counseling for that
Hey ain’t Six no more though and the grandma didn’t owe anything to him no one on this earth owe you shit and if they give you something you should take it as a blessing
He should help his grandma with that money! He's being greedy and wanting it all for himself. His grandma didn't have to raise him, and he needs to think about what his life would have been like if she hadn't fought for him and raised him! She didn't have to, but she did it because she loves him. Now she's broke and he should be more than willing to help her out! She shouldn't even have to ask, he should just take it upon himself to help her instead of being greedy with that money. He acts quiet and timid, which makes people think he's innocent, but I see right through that act!
@@silvers_inkno he’s not being selfish. you cant talk to someone crazy and treat them terrible and expect them to give you something.. she made the choice to take him in and he never said he wasn’t grateful for that. As his grandmother she SHOULD have took him in and she knew that so she did
@@silvers_inkyou're missing the fact on why he doesn't wanna do that listen to that part again.
@@sugafreemints4229 I did listen but if you think I'm missing something then tell me what exactly am I missing?
My Grandma was Bipolar and she was the best Grandmother a girl could ask. Incouldnt imagine not having the memories of the hundreds of sleepovers I had at her house. ❤ I miss her so much
The last woman is so sweet and beautiful. I was once a big woman too, and my husband also asked and got a divorce. Girl, let me tell you I litterally starting hauling ass. I got up every morning and pushed myself into a healthy place. I lost 265 lbs and got my self confidence back. When people asked me how I did it. I said Its called D. I. V. O. R. C. E.. I lost a whole person finding myself. And when i did lose I fought like hell and faced my own demons getting my marriage back. I did it and Im never going back to that person again. I loved and still am in love with my best friend. You got to change things when things are interrupted.. Like God said, it shall pass. Love to all
I want the first family to win so bad. I actually love them both.
This big girl/child talking to her mom like that is crazy. She needs to heal and get help just like she keep telling her mother. She’s very angry and they need to stay apart
Adult doesnt mean respect, this aint china
Just because she’s her mother doesn’t mean she deserves respect 🤷🏽♀️
I love that you give your guest hugs hugging is so underated as part of therapy for feeling btr
Man this broke me. My heart aches for Keonie and his grandmother. The first 2 stories are just so sad. I pray they're all in a much better place mentally.
Teon says " he doesn't tolerate disrespect", but he gives it!
The way he kept calling his father "boy" irked me.
Teon called the show to disrespect his dad? That part was crazy to me. I understand the hurt and respect it, but that will NEVER give you the right to hurt someone and get upset with how they respond. The dad tried and teon was closed.
Im still crying from episode i watched previously, these shows helps alot of us we grieving and nobody knows... u helping me trying to heal with me and my daughter thanks karamo
I wanna tell everyone whatever you’re going through talk to someone who you trust and listen to you your problem,do something fun that makes you happy❤💜💚
I see a lot of people pooping on Deekah but yall fail to realize is we don’t know what her mother actually put her through. Just because the mom was calm doesn’t mean she lacks mental illness or is absolved from being disrespectful of her daughters boundaries. You can always put on a calm face for others but she can’t hide from her daughter who was there and who knows what the conversation between Deekah and her Dad looked like.
I agree. I felt like her daughter’s anger came from having been gaslit by her mother many many times. “Forgetting” what she has said and done in the past and just expecting their relationship to be mended. Why would her daughter make up that she has a bipolar diagnosis? Why would her daughter make up that her mother used to have a prescription? Why would her daughter make up that her mother abducted her child? I think it’s wild so many people watched this video and all they noticed was that the daughter was angry so they assumed the daughter must just be a bully and a bad person.
It doesn’t matter , she already apologized and went through wtf she went through . fuck allat . don’t ask for an apology if you won’t accept it .
She's gaslighting her mom and screaming at her bullshit. She doesn't know how to communicate. She sucks
Your show is much needed,to help the many challenges out there. God bless you for being there to help people and for showing that there is help❤🎉❤🎉
This is the most touching show on miscommunication I feel that everyone goes through. Feelings are so hard to express. 😢
That big girl is out of line one can't heal without forgiveness she hasn't forgave her mother she is truly the toxic person in this whole situation
I'm so glad someone else see thru dicca or Candace or whatever.. She blames her mother for everything.. Even things that's not in her control.
Yes...The daughter is the one with mental illness.
Even if her mother is in the wrong, it still doesn't give her the right to disrespect her mother! I can't believe the nerve she had to tell her mother that she had to earn her respect! If she feels that her mother is toxic then I understand keeping her distance from her, but there's no excuse for her disrespecting her mother like that. It's totally unacceptable.
@@silvers_inkguess the abuse and disrespect she pulled is cool huh?
It's her child n she telling her mama go get help tf
When a child says an adult said something that hurt them it’s definitely true
The affected person always remembers
Karmo drop the ball teon was wrong for not making the son apologize for macing him
Nana got me over here crying. They’re both grieving 😭. Praying for both of them
I felt sorry for the last guy. As an African living in Africa, I understand how frustrating it can be to leave your family to go start a life with your foreign wife and then have to get put down by her all the time. Most foreigners think they do Africans a favour by marrying and bringing us to their country but it’s not always the case. We Africans understand the importance of respect in a household. If she couldn’t deal with the fact that he came from Africa, she shouldn’t have married him. Constantly reminding him of the fact is such disgusting behaviour. Talking down on him with her friends is adding insult to injury. No man deserves such a wife. She didn’t do him a favour by marrying him and so deserves no gratitude. Much respect for my African brother for putting his foot down and demanding for that divorce, and if he comes back home, he’s going to be alright.
Karamo can controlled his anger man so angry but still quite and talking with a very calm voice always salute you beo
Sending love and hugs to the grandmother and the grandson please heal them God they’re in so much pain ❤❤❤
How can anybody talk to their mother like that ? If you ask me I would say the daughter is more insane than the mother. .
you have no idea what she’s done to her or she’s been through drugs make people evil that stuff sticks in your brain just bc it’s “over” and their sober now doesn’t mean you can just forget.
@@serenityreine999exactly. Some things you can forget but somethings just can’t be forgiven
Deka has lived with the pain her mother has caused and now momma wants Deka to just "move on". Deka's approach is straight up mean at this point she needs counseling to navigate her way through it.
Time doesn't actually heal wounds. It's very obvious that the mom hasn't done much more than get sober to make amends to Deeka.
This girl is not going to leave long. She is bitter, busy, and unforgiven. She feels untouchable. Her mother made a mistake, but there is nothing that can not be forgiven.
Genuinely as someone who lost their mother at a young age I feel grandma and grandson my heart hurts for them both
Grandma sounds bipolar and toxic ⚠️😭
I thought that at first but if you listen she never had time to grieve her daughter because she had to step up and take care of her grandkids. And even the he said about court “she was the only one strong enough to relive it” she was being strong for everyone and no one gave her a moment to just fall apart about having lost her child
@@SmileyBug100that’s why it’s important to take care of your mental health before taking it out on children. There are a lot of parents and grandparents, Gen X and Boomers, who got used to swallowing their feelings and, in turn, took that pain out onto people they cared about or their children/grandchildren. It’s a trauma cycle.
Grandma acting like a victim 😮hope that young man does well, move out and heal ❤
@@SmileyBug100all of that is true but the grandma has a parent/child relationship with her grandson and shouldn’t expect him fill that role
No way I can watch my mom cry and not wrap my arms around her 😢
The grandma attacking her grandson is insane. As a boy, he could never hit her back or defend himself without him looking like a bad guy. This is sad 😢. All of this emotional abuse is why he seems so emotionless
My prayers for you guys... No time will ever make you miss her less... But know that you will see her again one day.... Lots of love and hugs too you guys❤️
I would leave that young lady alone if I was her Mother. She is exhibiting too much hostility.
Acting like the mother stole her man😮
She has Borderline Personality Disorder and she is stuck where she got hurt!
She’s tooo much. She hates her mother for what??🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
@@vickyserrfor being on drugs, for stealing her childhood from her since her mom was on drugs with her abisive ex to both of them, the. Taking her child with no permission… yeah I think that may be why
Can you see why? It's very clear why she's so angry. It's clearly regarding her own image than the mother
Candace was exactly right - her mom got everyone in the comments in the palm of her hand. Candace’s reactions are a product of growing up with a parent like that. That mom didn’t own any of her wrong doings. Her addiction was her husbands fault. She wants her daughter to forget the past w/o apologizing or acknowledging Candace’s feelings.
Fr there's even people calling CANDACE the bipolar one. And none of them are psychiatrists and have no business calling anyone bipolar (the mom included), and acting like Candace getting angry at the mom for picking up her son was out of pocket. If someone you viewed as unstable/unreliable picked up your son without permission, any good parent would be furious!!
It's the disrespect the daughter gave that made me turn against her. No matter how you feel you have to be respectful in your approach is you want to make any meaningful improvements.
Girl w the Boyfriend... she isnt addicted she has ZERO self esteem and she gets through the pain of feeling like nothing but finding pity parties. If she cared about herself more than him she would move out of chaos instead of waiting for someone else to move.
Karamo is fantastic!
I have watched this before but after seeing it again and hearing from the grandmother it reminds me of this tik tok I saw my heart breaks because for the first time I realized that when a parent loses a child there is no word to describe it. He is an orphan, a spouse lost is a widow but when you lose a child nothing. What I hear her say is that no one is there for her…everyone needs something from her and she has no one. This is so sad! He is old enough to grant a little grace her way…she has raised him since him for 10 years.
First guests: Is it about the love or the money? Yes she lost her daughter but he lost his mom. He doesn't owe her money. If he wants to give her a token of appreciation then thats totally fine but he doesn't owe her half.
She deflecting that she fat shamed him, by focusing on the bullying at school. I believe she said all of the mean, nasty and hurtful things he said she did.
I think they both love one another. They need counseling and therapy. They are going to be ok.
Yeah, she's lieing and deflecting trying to get that sympathy.
Yes she’s expecting something for doing something she should do! That’s crazy
I don’t think her expectations were behind some sort of monetary reward. It was what the money symbolized. Her daughters death will not be swept up. It was the hospitals fault and she wanted them to be punished. Winning would mean , her daughter didn’t die in vain. It wasn’t for nothing, and at 6 he knew the sadness, but didn’t understand the fight that had to be done in order for him to live comfortably. Since she was the one who advocated, and used her resources to takes care of her grandson. She didn’t have to raise them. All that money for school, food clothes shelter etc… for someone else’s kid. Yes, she should get some compensation.
@@jl1134then she should've fought just aschard for her own compensation.
@@danajataylor8864 Everyone grieves and reacts differently after a death of a loved one. Maybe you or I would have fought harder, but maybe at that time she didn't have the will or strength.
I was 51 when I lost my mom, and that was a hard for me I can’t imagine what he went through at 6. Damn the daughter acts like she’s the one withmental illness
I have 2 daughters and I never want them to hate me like this lord have mercy
Side note: I like this guys approach to things. Very unbiased and definitely can read the room.
He's so intelligent, well spoken. I pray 🙏 that God will heal and rebuild their relationship. And that all is/will be well with them and their family. Special prayers for the little sister as well!!❤❤ I hope she doesn't feel responsible for her mother's death😢😢
24:15 - had the audience shook. And you know it’s bad when bro lets that lil “ooooo” out
I understand she feels no one was there for her too, but unfortunately its not his job as a grandson to be that for her
The first lady just needs support, someone she can talk to or just even sit and listen to. Yes, he lost his mom, but she lost her child. She didn't get to grieve. She had to step up and take care of her grandkids with nobody to lean on. Yes, her anger is misplaced, and she is full of pain. People only see her as an angry black woman who does not care about anything but herself, which is just not true.