Looking back on this series, It's not only amazing how far 58 has come, but also how far a man's dedication to his engine can take him. You sir, are an inspiration to us all.
Great work. I love the old engines. So many have been lost. Great to see you doing what you can for this one. And I really enjoyed seeing the inner workings of parts rarely seen. Definitely worth a sub. Thank you.
Boy that is a rusty engine! At first glance, I would think ti would not be restored, I guess I'm wrong! Good luck with the restoration! I bet it will be a very cute little locomotive when it is running! I can't wait!
Sadly much of the Youngstown/Warren area has turned to rust. I was in Warren in April to watch a court case come to an end after 16 years in court over the former Penn Central and it was sad to see. Keep up the good work Rick!
Thanks much for doing this video and it’s a good inspiration for me to get started here. We’re searching for, and trying to solve, the issues involved with rolling one of our engines. Great idea to document the discovery phase! Nice job!
Another really cool video... It is about time our Heritage and History be restored in this nation... I really love to see this stuff I really do... Keep the videos coming..
Did you have to pay extra for that hole in your britches? Are they like extra expensive overalls, made to look worn out? I am loving your little documentary of this locomotive. I want one... I am sure I have the winning numbers to next weeks lotto drawing!!!!
The different terms used for the parts of the locomotive & boiler are different in American and British railroading. For example when he says "flue sheet" I realised he means 'tubeplate'. That one was easy to tell because he was pretty much pointing at the particular area. It is difficult to follow what parts he is talking about before 4.00, when he was talking about the process of dismantling & restoration. The boiler is always #1: What is the inner & outer firebox like + the front tubeplate. Then you go looking at the frames and the wheels. Well, you said that the frame had been cut. I assume the super-heavy nature of the frame is to add low down weight & boost tractive effort. It is odd to see piston valves and Walschaert's valve gear on an industrial locomotive. Were 2ft gauge railways that common in the US for internal use in industry?
they had them and used them till a bit latter era then the mainliners, so yea there are some short line and smaller gauge tracks in industrial area. that said forgive my weird statement but the smokebox on this engine compared to a mainliner like 765 or 611 is cute, look how tiny that blast pipe is, this thing while I know is heavy metal thats the nature of the way they were built, but that boiler is soo tiny it dont look like it could hurt a fly, looking inside of 765 on the other hand the thing looks like its ready to make dinner out of you especially the giant blower ring, looked like a rack for wood on a giant fireplace under all the grates and mesh to keep the cinders down and the huge blast pipe coming out of the floor of the smokebox, I help out with 765 sometimes on days off, there are many that do way more, and are more well known, and have been doing it longer, but I do help out with odd jobs, the occasional grinding and metal work, lots of cleaning, and being a tool monkey fetching things for the others since I am younger in my mid 30's, vacuumed out the sand from the auxiliary tender tank car climbing in and out of the baffles makes for an interesting office for work, and getting the hose around is a pain in the hands pulling on it for 2 hours trying to move the shop vac hose around, but its the only way to get it done, the tools might be newer that we use but the methods of care and fabricating are the same time honored way, making parts means lots of hot work grinding, and the muscle sometimes of two or three men. but yes as it its Rick could use a helper at least taking care of a steam engine is not a one man job.
Depends on what you mean by poor! I've never been wealthy, lower middle class perhaps, and made a lot of sacrifices to keep this project going. It is cheaper than raising children though!
***** Rick if I lived closer to you, I would LOVE to help assist you in these projects. Sadly I live in MN. and lack the vacation time to drive out east. I refuse to fly.
You guys are so awesome! Its really so cool to see some things not only saved, but actually rebuilt and running from Yougstown, I am originally from Cleveland. I wanted to ask why is this called Jones and Laughlin, did this loco work in Aliquippa or Pittsburgh? I will check out your Facebook. Hey, I was googling and trying find info about this locomotive and stumbled on something called the 'Youngstown ingot Mold Railway'. What was this, a RR that just moved ingots all day?? Where did this operate in Youngstown? Last, I wondered did you guys have a chance to get anything out of the old Wean United Machine factory before it was torn down?
You need a team of volintears and alot money to.get that engine running or a show peace. Don't cut your self short on making quality parts . Hope you can make the parts needed so they don't crack later on. Love to see that engine running.
So what's the exact gauge? Are we talking 597 mm? 600, 603? 'Cause 2 foot is a lot more common, and I can't find anything about a 23 inch exact gauge railway either in Ohio or in Pennsylvania.
If people only took care of their toys when they put them away! How much more simplified restoration would be, had these wonderful machines been lubed, greased, and placed inside a building, or even tarped, when their active service was completed. Of course, in the 1950's these locomotive were considered surplus scrap, and no longer applicable to the job, therefore, JUNK! Left outdoors, and scavenged for parts, and souvenirs, even becoming homes for porcupines and raccoons, locomotives just began to slip away.
It's nothing to do with baiting, it's a perfectly valid argument. The world is full of junk and short of resources. There are solutions. Yes go ahead, "grease it up and store it in a building". Are you going to pay for that process with your own cash? These machines are built to make income. If they aren't generating money, then someone has to pay for them to be kept and maintained. Who is going to maintain the building which could have been given over to production when instead it stores useless outdated machinery? You don't seem to have a grasp of reality.
You are obviously not familiar with the restoration, who is paying to restore it, and the value of this locomotive as living history. Read up on the project before you comment.
Da habt ihr euch etwas vorgenommen, da würden sogar die Profis von RAW Meiningen mit dem Kopf schütteln. Since you have something planned, even the professionals of RAW Meiningen would shake their heads.
Doesn't anyone help this poor man? It appears that he has to do all of the work by himself. If only there was some one of the younger generation that was willing to help this poor unfortunate soul. Alas, they are to busy chasing trains, and buying new trucks, and operating big cranes.
Looking back on this series, It's not only amazing how far 58 has come, but also how far a man's dedication to his engine can take him. You sir, are an inspiration to us all.
Did the same thing - forgot that 58 was an incomplete chassis. Unbelievable work.
Great work. I love the old engines. So many have been lost. Great to see you doing what you can for this one. And I really enjoyed seeing the inner workings of parts rarely seen. Definitely worth a sub. Thank you.
I've seen the ready to run video first and... ooh boy, that must have been a journey! Lovely work!
It's nice seeing you did a lot of the work to this engine yourself like a true engineer should
You've proved to me that heat is your friend. Nice work.
Tim
A hardworking dude! You have my admiration, sir.
Boy that is a rusty engine! At first glance, I would think ti would not be restored, I guess I'm wrong! Good luck with the restoration! I bet it will be a very cute little locomotive when it is running! I can't wait!
Jonas does GREAT boiler work!
Sadly much of the Youngstown/Warren area has turned to rust. I was in Warren in April to watch a court case come to an end after 16 years in court over the former Penn Central and it was sad to see. Keep up the good work Rick!
Thanks much for doing this video and it’s a good inspiration for me to get started here. We’re searching for, and trying to solve, the issues involved with rolling one of our engines. Great idea to document the discovery phase! Nice job!
I've worked on cars that have sat only a couple years that had more corrosion and harder to loosen bolts than that! Lucky
Another really cool video... It is about time our Heritage and History be restored in this nation... I really love to see this stuff I really do... Keep the videos coming..
Great video! Eagerly anticipating the next installment!
hard working dude 📌➡🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚎
You sir, are my hero!
This thing sure looks good today.
Just a large THANK YOU!
Heat, beat, aerokroil, and cryo. All of which, used judiciously, will free just about anything.
That looks fantastic
Ahhh, my kingdom for a 3/4" impact gun!
Or at least a good 3/4" drive socket set, ratchet and pull handle. Geeze, a pipe wrench and crescent, with big bolts and nuts that rusty.
Please restore more of these vintage treashers
new subscriber Im going to look forwards to this, probably be up all night now.
Cool nice one UK.
Admiro mucho a los trenes a vapor , por qe nunca les falto fuerza en el arrastre , fueron las mas potente hasta la actualidad ,
To sadness and scrap metal to a beauty of God
Needle scalers are a great tool
Did you have to pay extra for that hole in your britches? Are they like extra expensive overalls, made to look worn out? I am loving your little documentary of this locomotive. I want one... I am sure I have the winning numbers to next weeks lotto drawing!!!!
Those holes are only created through hard work over a long period of time.
Did you replace the axle sets and sets that had better crank pins, boxes, bearings and wheel profiles?
The different terms used for the parts of the locomotive & boiler are different in American and British railroading. For example when he says "flue sheet" I realised he means 'tubeplate'.
That one was easy to tell because he was pretty much pointing at the particular area.
It is difficult to follow what parts he is talking about before 4.00, when he was talking about the process of dismantling & restoration.
The boiler is always #1: What is the inner & outer firebox like + the front tubeplate.
Then you go looking at the frames and the wheels. Well, you said that the frame had been cut.
I assume the super-heavy nature of the frame is to add low down weight & boost tractive effort. It is odd to see piston valves and Walschaert's valve gear on an industrial locomotive.
Were 2ft gauge railways that common in the US for internal use in industry?
they had them and used them till a bit latter era then the mainliners, so yea there are some short line and smaller gauge tracks in industrial area.
that said forgive my weird statement but the smokebox on this engine compared to a mainliner like 765 or 611 is cute, look how tiny that blast pipe is, this thing while I know is heavy metal thats the nature of the way they were built, but that boiler is soo tiny it dont look like it could hurt a fly, looking inside of 765 on the other hand the thing looks like its ready to make dinner out of you especially the giant blower ring, looked like a rack for wood on a giant fireplace under all the grates and mesh to keep the cinders down and the huge blast pipe coming out of the floor of the smokebox, I help out with 765 sometimes on days off, there are many that do way more, and are more well known, and have been doing it longer, but I do help out with odd jobs, the occasional grinding and metal work, lots of cleaning, and being a tool monkey fetching things for the others since I am younger in my mid 30's, vacuumed out the sand from the auxiliary tender tank car climbing in and out of the baffles makes for an interesting office for work, and getting the hose around is a pain in the hands pulling on it for 2 hours trying to move the shop vac hose around, but its the only way to get it done, the tools might be newer that we use but the methods of care and fabricating are the same time honored way, making parts means lots of hot work grinding, and the muscle sometimes of two or three men.
but yes as it its Rick could use a helper at least taking care of a steam engine is not a one man job.
If it don't give up easy at first. Grab a bigger hammer. Also, air impacts are miracle workers on this sort of stuff.
I'll tell you one thing you'll never see in your life. A poor man restoring a train
Depends on what you mean by poor! I've never been wealthy, lower middle class perhaps, and made a lot of sacrifices to keep this project going. It is cheaper than raising children though!
I can see this turning into a never ending saga
I think you mean saga.
Thanks we all have spelling mistakes
where's the mistake ?!!
He's corrected it now. I was spelled sager originally or something like that.
Great video Rick! Do you still invite help to work on your projects?
***** Rick if I lived closer to you, I would LOVE to help assist you in these projects. Sadly I live in MN. and lack the vacation time to drive out east. I refuse to fly.
MRHSDM316SD18186 Too bad I live in California! I would love to restore a little engine like that!
18.55 I wish i could that magic nut remover !.
You guys are so awesome! Its really so cool to see some things not only saved, but actually rebuilt and running from Yougstown, I am originally from Cleveland. I wanted to ask why is this called Jones and Laughlin, did this loco work in Aliquippa or Pittsburgh? I will check out your Facebook. Hey, I was googling and trying find info about this locomotive and stumbled on something called the 'Youngstown ingot Mold Railway'. What was this, a RR that just moved ingots all day?? Where did this operate in Youngstown? Last, I wondered did you guys have a chance to get anything out of the old Wean United Machine factory before it was torn down?
You need a team of volintears and alot money to.get that engine running or a show peace. Don't cut your self short on making quality parts . Hope you can make the parts needed so they don't crack later on. Love to see that engine running.
Search for and watch our other videos. Its been running for two years now.
I'm hoping one day I can go to Ohio and get two old abandoned porters (3002 & 3003)
The gaming blue
engine 3002 and 3003 what!?!? no efence but you might be dead by that time
Ricky Gabino maybe, but one day I do hope I can rescue them
Where did you get her?
Dam i would definitely be busting out my impact wrench. And a bigger hammer
Where did this locomotive sit for all that time?
Wats the total with of ur 2 root narrow gauge steam locomotive
So what's the exact gauge? Are we talking 597 mm? 600, 603? 'Cause 2 foot is a lot more common, and I can't find anything about a 23 inch exact gauge railway either in Ohio or in Pennsylvania.
24" gauge
So do you own this train?
Take it up to Middlefield, Ohio?
good luck :D
Bueños dias!
Where does one go to buy rusty old steam engines?
Wow, the other two locomotives you have now should be a breeze compared to how this thing started. lol
Please get a wind cover for your mike!
If you are going to tape outside in the wind please place or tape some foam rubber over mic hole. It's a good video except for the wind noise...Hal
Aesbestos in boiler?
No
At 19:20, YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! RESTORATION!!!!!
If people only took care of their toys when they put them away! How much more simplified restoration would be, had these wonderful machines been lubed, greased, and placed inside a building, or even tarped, when their active service was completed. Of course, in the 1950's these locomotive were considered surplus scrap, and no longer applicable to the job, therefore, JUNK! Left outdoors, and scavenged for parts, and souvenirs, even becoming homes for porcupines and raccoons, locomotives just began to slip away.
This should have been cut up long ago. What a waste of scrap metal to have this hanging around rusting.
Go ahead and bait us. You're a dink.
It's nothing to do with baiting, it's a perfectly valid argument.
The world is full of junk and short of resources. There are solutions.
Yes go ahead, "grease it up and store it in a building". Are you going to pay for that process with your own cash? These machines are built to make income. If they aren't generating money, then someone has to pay for them to be kept and maintained. Who is going to maintain the building which could have been given over to production when instead it stores useless outdated machinery? You don't seem to have a grasp of reality.
You are obviously not familiar with the restoration, who is paying to restore it, and the value of this locomotive as living history. Read up on the project before you comment.
Richard G
Da habt ihr euch etwas vorgenommen, da würden sogar die Profis von RAW Meiningen mit dem Kopf schütteln.
Since you have something planned, even the professionals of RAW Meiningen would shake their heads.
2020
You could use a little help. This is really a two man job. Also, get a impact gun. It will make the job a whole lot easier and faster too. GOOD LUCK!
Bring back steam power!! :(
Doesn't anyone help this poor man? It appears that he has to do all of the work by himself. If only there was some one of the younger generation that was willing to help this poor unfortunate soul. Alas, they are to busy chasing trains, and buying new trucks, and operating big cranes.
the cameraman should drop off his camera and help him out!
why waste your time cleaning out the ash box when ther liner has got to be replaced anyway?
Interesting video except for the wind noise.
+emdman1959 He's just trying to make you feel that icy wind off the lake that was present that day :) .
+wb2vsj That he did.
Maybe get Harbor Freight to donate some battery powered impact wrenches to you guys? Darn you work hard.
Thee last time I saw the Chatanooga Choo Choo the Chinese had it they melted it down to make Hyundais and Kias...
Have some friends help you.
I heard when I was a kid they fixed the B&O Railroad by making everyone wear Deoderant... Now that is called a permanent fix..
SO BORED
cut the never ending info-mercial out and get on with it!
This guy is NOT a worker on trains.
Shouldn't you wear a dust mask when working in a rusty dusty boiler?
THAT TRAIN IS PERSY FROM THOMAS AND FRIENDS I REEPEET THE ROLLING INGOT
IS PERSY FROM THOMAS AND FRIENDS