ANDREW TATE IS BANNED! THIS CENSORSHIP WILL BACKFIRE.
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Where do you fall on this? Do you welcome this kind of censorship, do you believe this will do good?
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I don't welcome any form of censorship.
Salam alaikum
Some bs
I don't think it will serve any purpose. People wanting to find him will eventually find him. If he disappears, someone will take his place. As long as people want guys like him, he will exist in some sort of way.
Andrew Tate absolutely has a RUclips channel. Its called TateSpeech
He will literally never be fully cancelled because different content creators will always invite him to their platforms.
Well everywhere trump goes the video gets banned so.. they might trump tate
Idk they take those Alex Jones videos down a lot
“If you host Andrew Tate as a guest your channel will be removed” there you go, 99% of creators will now treat him like the plague. You’re delusional if you think they don’t have the power to wipe this man from their platforms. Widespread ban of his name, image and likeness in all forms wouldn’t be hard to do.
The issue isn’t removing him from history, the issue is that these corporations can do as they please, and morons in the comments who are under their boot heels will spout “PRiVatE ComPanY” as if that should exempt companies.
Canceling was canceled in 07. 🤣💀. Get off the internet.
@@yualwayscmecommenting3074 Good, fk that guy 🤣
What's annoying is that the female equivalent to Tate would be considered empowering. These platforms don't realize that censorship creates DEMONS.
The left loves banning people...especially since the midterms are close
If there was a female Tate, I'd consider her as equally distasteful, vulgar, overtly antagonistic, superficial, shallow, and so on and so forth. The role models we have for younger peeps today are a far cry in comparison to the ones we had in the '90s, like Fred Rogers, Richard Feynman, Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan, James Randi, Isaac Asimov, etc.
With that said, I do find the biased, selective banning process applied to misogynists aren't as equally applied to misandrists either; as well as no pushback against defamation of character for even someone as vile as Tate, in regards to coloring his character as a trafficking, women-beating misogynist.
Can you point to this hypothetical female equivalent?
Because if there were, you would be mentioning names, yet here you are, talking about hypothetical situations that do not exist.
So you're mad at nothing.
@@mailenjokerbell Cardi B.
She openly talks about using men for their money and status and even admitted to drugging men in the past and stealing their items. Yet Cardi B is an idol for millions of girls in this generation and she’s is thriving in modern day culture/social media. Empowerment is all good and well as long as you don’t empower men apparently. When men are empowered that’s when revolutions and change happens, and that’s why Tate was banned.
@@mailenjokerbell drew afualo
The banning of provoking, challenging, or negative speech without direct threat of harm is the antithesis of freedom of speech. As an American who grew up around veterans, this is a sad generation to be a part of.
According to the paradox of tolerance, banning intolerance is good. So we should just ban everything intolerant.
It's called suffering the consequences.
@@donovanlocust1106
No, it's not. We have a constitution in America and it should be followed. We have the freedom of speech for a reason.
@@Delimon007 Well tate doesn't live in America and it's the Uk that is trying to "ban" him.
Andrew lives in Romania freedom of speech doesn’t apply to him. Also the idea of freedom of speech only applies to the government. Meta isn’t a government agency so they can ban whoever they want. It’s the same reason business owners can refuse service to anyone I would argue that too is a part of the first amendment. The first Amendment is more than just “freedom of speech”. Meta is well within their rights and you’re just crying “censorship” because they banned someone you like. That’s just my opinion
People all over Andrew's videos are commenting shit like "if he's been cancelled it means he was telling the truth and people just don't want to hear it !!!". Censoring this man just turned him into some kind of "martyr". It was definitely not the right move
Censoring this man just turned him into free advertising for rumble.
I said this too. very convenient move can be for some ... You know
Fucka eno lol
_When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say._
Yup, big up the Top G💪🏾
Who said this sir
@@makaisonn7030 - Shafer Hart probably
@@makaisonn7030 Homer Simpson
I'm stealing this quote.
The problem isn't just one person. Women face no censorship when it comes to their content of exploiting men. Men will get banned or demonetized by showing the same clips women post about exploiting men simply by criticizing it.
There's a woman on Tiktok literally teaching women how to finesse and emotionally manipulate men. A dude called her out on her bs and he got banned. I'm tired of this clown ass world.
What's crazy is that Justpearlythings just had her tiktok banned for trying to bring to light some of the issues that women/society created. It's like boom ban the people, ban the message. For what? For why?
@@mstrshalt ot those idiots who created the trend vabing
@Bob Ross oh yep multiple ppl and they r big, justpearlythings shes a woman that saying other shit about feminism meanwhile got banned on tiktok. The hypocrisy r hugeeeee
"Women face no censorship when it comes to their content of exploiting men" Oh, they do - it's just that when they get censored, they get to say "Misogyny!" and "Right-Wing Prudes!" and usually get the censorship reversed. Men don't have those arguments to fall back on.
This ban is only going to give him more firepower, along with people like his brother, Sneako, Fresh and Fit, and all of his fans. Here’s to hoping this ban backfires spectacularly.
Sneako is defo making a bit.
Hopefully it'll expose the protected class as the privileged oppressors.
sneako is a clown
@@ajja2387 Sneako is the dude! Love his content.
Just admit you hate women
Being a young man, I have never had a good male role model to look up to in my life. I was practically raised by my mom/aunt growing up. My father abused my mother and us kids physically/emotionally and used to be a coke head. My papa (dad's side) committed suicide when I was 7yo. He was the closest person I had to a father figure in my childhood and he mf killed himself. To add insult to injury, after his death is when I found out he would beat my father when he was a kid, which tarnished my memory of Papa. I don't mean to open up about my whole life story but I guess my point is that there are so many young men who go through their adolescent life without a good male role model. Despite this, since I have been watching your guy's video's, I have felt less alone as a young man. Thank you both for being a positive role model for young men around the world. Thank you for helping someone like me understand what it means to be a man. Whether you both see it or not, y'all are one of the most positive male role models on social media. Thank you so much for all of your hard work with these videos!! Keep it up
Maybe find a better role model than a guy who commits sex trafficking. Tate was arrested for that, buddy
I can fully agree, we need more men with reason and less emotions nowadays
Sooooooo for the most part of these young men should be BLAMING their dads for being a shitty dad😂😂not women!
It’s really good you have aba and preach. They are a balanced example of two slightly different men with strong morals and reflective thought. Just avoid egomaniacs like andrew tate. Hes a bit of fun but his way of thinking is very rigid and naive. Just avoid all agendas and groups, learn what you can from everyone because everyone has something to share, but never adopt their flag, wave your own flag!
@@phantasticmrphasma9874 they're not balanced. They supposed Myron from fresh and fit assaulting a 19 year old girl after he admitted to illegally giving her alcohol. So that's Abba and preach supporting date rape. Now they support tate the sex trafficker just cuz he gets views. Sad sad times
If people can't discuss things that make them feel uncomfortable, they'll never learn how to cope in reality. Censorship is never a solution, only a mask that dissuades discussion on a topic.
Couldn't agree more and that's what makes this generation so soft
Naah you got To censor the bullcrap sometimes f.uck that
That’s modern day liberalism for you. Get used to it, it’s only going to get 10x worse. Mark my words. Said this 10 years ago when I was a teenager and I’ll say it again now.
Typical leftist commie stuff
I get very uncomfortable when anyone, particularly this tool, advocates raping women. If people enjoy listening to him, well, let's just say we know what their bag is. Let him spew his crap and hope that the misguided souls who follow him wake up and become real men.
Even if I hate his rhetoric, I hate even more that these platforms can just selectively ban folks.
Edit: I only see people get pro censorship when its the "opposition." Just be pro or anti none of this on and off bs.
It's a private company, freedom of speech is not a thing on most platforms
His "rhetoric" isn't even that bad to begin with. You're just acting soft.🤷🏾♂️
the thing is, the woke toxic people can say anything they want and not get banned.
@@arighteousname5882 either you haven't watched enough of his content or you hate women
This is true
The most annoying thing with this censorship, is that they assume that YOU the viewer are not able to think for yourself. It is a creepy mindset that goes across a lot of stuff, whether it is the sexual competition, gender, politics or war, these guys who are proponents of censorship always just want people to agree with them.
I don't even know of this Tate guy, but he just sounds like the pick-up artists they tried to ban in the 2010s.
I get where you're coming from but some people are impressionable and susceptible to being taken advantage of by people with charisma and power.
Censorship is one way to slow that down but, as A&P said doesn't address the underlying issue(s).
These companies side with the type of people to go to you irl and say you'll never understand how it feels to be a minority or a colored person.
The urge in me to slap a mfer with my brown ass hand the moment that shit left their lips.
The irony is social media proves people don't think for themselves....that's why they're called 'influencers '
@@shanchan8247 and if there is a malign influence, should it be removed?
It's not about you. Many of his viewers are teenagers who are impressionable and don't process information like adults.
He literally said "if you're having a heart attack just get over it. Just get up." "If you say a stake you ate at a restaurant is good, you are broke" then proceeds to say he goes to the chef and compliments the dish. He says a lot of stupid things with confidence 🤣
You understand he says things for shock value right? There are countless videos on Tik tok of women saying to “kill all men” I’m not stupid enough to think they actually mean it…..
You took that serious? Good lord he is smart
He ain't wrong though. If you are having a heart attack, just take a salt tablet and walk it off. 😂😂
I really thought he was an internet troll 😭😭
He a troll
y’all inadvertently are the positive alternative that a lot of young men needed/wanted. You have filled the void and saved more young male lives than you realise - defo saved my young adult life
Mine too
Same here
They already said that's not what they do. Tate not going anywhere.( Not U but society) Keep on crapping on Men and watch a Tide 🌊 Form....
Thats a little sad tbh...
damn darren denton...
Tbh this gender war is a little baffling cuz in regular everyday life with friends, coworkers, family (even random encounters with strangers) people just aren’t this pressed. Probably cuz we’re busy complaining about other things. But It’s like night and day from real world interaction vs online social media activity. I Think there’s something to be said about the culture of social media and the herd/mob-like mentality it creates. I’m not at all trying to invalidate how men and women are actually being affected; and the voice that both are developing to speak out about our experiences. Just noticed another factor.
Thank you for saying this. Completely agree that most people are not this bother and can go out, socialize and have normal interactions. Honestly I think alot of this is misery loves company. When you are hurting, lonely, feeling inferior, or shortchanged. It's easy to fall into these echo chambers that tell you it's not you it's them.
That’s facts. I think that’s why Aba stated the ban is just feel good BS for people online. Unfortunately there’s too many people who live online these days like they pay rent on twitter or something Lol
Gender wars? This guy was arrested over kidnapping and human trafficking.
@@grobbymuleya that’s exactly why the damn metaverse is a thing. They will be paying rent online, they already pay for virtual concerts lol
True. However, the issues that they discuss are being played out everywhere I look.
The more people like him get silenced, the more aggressive his replacement will be. If you look at these guys as they show up they started out very calm and just wanting to talk. Now they're getting more hostile and vocal. They feel ignored and the fact that they keep getting attacked is only making things significantly worse.
"Riots are the language of the unheard"
If they keep censoring and preventing men from using their voice, they will have no choice but to use violence instead.
And where's the problem in that? Ignoring the fact that companies are legally allowed to refuse service to anyone, what's the problem with them being more "aggressive"? The vast majority of his rhetoric is harmful to gullible men, and to an extent women. Even if he sprinkles in little truths to make the message much sweeter. If more extreme voices rise, they'll get the same treatment, only quicker. Until you say something stupid enough to actually get yourself in legal trouble.
Jordan peterson points out a lot of the same issues young men are facing, in a much calmer more collected and middle of the road way, look how these same people treat him. Any mention of men's issues is treated like an assault on women. They are going to create the very world they fear.
@@gheddimuddey1584 nah. Let it the FUCK exist.
@@gheddimuddey1584 what happened to freedom of speech. there are so many things that are not good for us but is promoted by the same sites instagram and facebook. theyre only banning him to please all the people that hate tate. instagram literally promotes poor mental health
I can feel the frustration of Aba and Preach growing larger and larger with every incident of this kind. I follow these guys since 2020 and they always sought to keep an common sense, centrist position regarding this issues, even mainstream leftist at points... and they are a good indicator of where regular young men probably are. Give it a few more years of this bullshit and something is going to burst in the world, idk what and how, but seeing this guys getting pissed more and more have me worried about the outcome of this "festering wound". The people in power doing this stupid displays of unfairness and brute force are causing massive damage to the order of society for many years to come. I agree with you guys and I appreciate you sticking up for common sense.
Unfairness? Dude was a human trafficker. You dont have the right to do that to anyone.
I like them but. To be honest anyone who spends their time involved in culture war drama on rhe Internet is going to end up sounding more and more pissed. Also it kind of is their brand that they have done well from. I'm not saying they are pretending to get worked up about stuff.. I'm sure they mean it well enough. But it's still their brand and their 'thing'
@@jamespaul6315 watch his final video on one of his followers accounts, it's just unfounded slander and he explains this stuff in great detail. If you chose to die on this hill without any evidence it's your problem.
@@simonsharp3319 nah their brand is mostly watching funny stuff and laughing about it in an hysterical way, thats why I remember their content anyway
@@jamespaul6315 do you have evidence or just spreading things you heard that are unfounded? James Paul is a child abuser
Even if I don't agree with him or his ideas, I'm 100% against the censorship and de-platforming crap these big tech companies have been doing. It's crazy that FB/Meta doesn't learn from literally tanking their stock value by 50%. They just keep doubling down.
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All stocks are currently cut in half. Your comment only makes sense when the stock market is doing well. Like when daddy trump was in office
They’re private companies, they can deplatform anyone they want. Especially when someone is spreading hate speech that encourages violence against women. The one instance I actually support deplatforming
FB dont care about the money from stocks etc. FB is CIA.
Those companies have a right to enforce their own rules. If he doesn't like it, he can go elsewhere.
In today's society, being cancelled is a badge of honor.
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He wasn't even canceled. That's why they had to ban. They couldn't stop his popularity.
If your a rapist it's not
Not really but okkkk
THIS IS WHY Bad examples rise to prominence: Our biology pays attention to potential threats. Or what’s shocking- like rubbernecking while passing a car wreck, we try to learn what went wrong so we don’t repeat That mistake. And, just like animals, once we recognize something is safe it can safely be ignored. Also, he’s selling the promise of “ power” to the weak.( young impressionable guys with little experience - basically teens)
They just make him a “martyr”. It emboldens his fans and now steers people towards him that perhaps would never have sought him out or even knew about him to begin with
His fans are so easily led, they will gravitate toward whatever gets their attention next.They don’t have the mindset to “ galvanize”, just to jump on bandwagons.
I think they knew this. The corporations want to create more division, but they also know that this ban will make Tate’s supporters more extreme and they won’t be able to hide anymore. Therefore, they will easier to eliminate.
@L I think op meant that by banning tate it only lead his fans to see him more and more as a martyr regardless of definition
I’d never considered listening to him, because I honestly didn’t care. I already watch my share of capsule content and it’s pretty measured. My sister comes into the room while I’m having a conversation and asks if I watch Andrew Tate. I said “no, should I?” And she responds “no, he was banned for spewing misogynistic and anti-woman content, hes disgusting don’t watch him.” So naturally I’m going to start watching him because I want to know why my liberal “women are losing their rights and white people are the cause of the country’s problems” sister is telling me not to watch him.
@@icu3869 then your badly mistake and need to get out the icu and into the real world.
One of the best take on Andrews censorship. Most logically and thought provoking stand on the Censership. !!ONLY IF YOU UNDERSTAND the VIDEO!!
It was actually a dumb take. They removed Andrew tate because he's a sex trafficker who got arrested for it, and spreads sexist hateful rhetoric as well. Private Platforms have no obligation to provide free speech to everyone. You must draw a line of morality and censor some bad people such as terrorists, traffickers, isis, etc
The guy became so popular online that it's impossible to cancel him. This ban is barely going to tickle him
he's probably not aware of said bans.. did he have official accounts ?
@@lexnight8345 they said they don’t care about bans his followers will do the job for them. The Tate movement will be alive as long as possible
@@bmoney3837 he's already gaining popularity in my country. he's not stopping. 💀😂
@@bmoney3837 ok so he did think ahead... his face and some of the dumb takes screamed half baked potato so didn't think he had brain 🤣
@@lexnight8345 Yeah he did have official accounts on Facebook and Instagram. He also has Tatespeech and Tate Confidential on RUclips, which are still up as of now
Terminating voices you don't agree with, has NEVER worked in the history in mankind. This will comeback like a boomerang from hell!
F*cking love that description 😂🔥
It’s just not that they don’t agree with them, as is evidenced by all the voices that are still on the platform.
They want shit to happen tho
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@@ItzMalick what a dogshit way to promote yourself. Leech elsewhere.
Honestly the biggest problem is that young men are being told from all angles that they're the problem, they're the source of society's issues ("when women have a problem it's men's fault, when men have a problem it's men's fault"), they're the ones who keep causing problems with people, etc etc etc. When a male role model appears and speaks confidently that you can get the things you want, people get attracted to that, because finally someone is telling them that they CAN do the thing, they just need to put their mind to it. Shitty rhetoric aside, someone speaking authoritatively giving you advice is an attractive thing for anyone, regardless of your gender.
And then the platforms go ahead and ban this, it just reinforces the ideas these people have in their head already--that society wants to put them down, take away their autonomy, push them to the side. When you combine this with being told from all angles that it's men that are the problem, everything is toxic masculinity, everything is because of boys and men and males, you'll get a society full of people who are angry at the world because they're just trying to live their lives, but they've been told by their friends they hang out with, the institutions they attend, the media that they watch, that everything is their fault.
We need to shift focus away from "X vs Y" and towards something more positive. Unfortunately right now, the people who are comfortable speaking authoritatively on the subject will say things like "treat your woman like shit so she'll know her place" or "double standards for being on social media in a relationship is the way to go". You know what I never hear people talk about? Fucking communication. How to be a good listener, how to think critically, how to understand someone even though they might have a different life experience than you, or how your personal experiences might not be indicative of the whole, and how to meet in the middle with that. Be a more empathetic person. Be a critical thinker.
The Andrew Tate video iiluminatii made was interesting
This was a really good read
wow this is beautifully said. I agree whole heartedly. If you substitute in your scenario "men" with "black americans" you'll see exactly what will happen next, black americans where shitted on then revolted and got their freedom. May or may not happen or maybe just to a lesser degree. But history doesn't repeat itself it rhymes
you just summed up the whole situation incredibly succintly
sadly someone even worse than tate is likely on the way and the cycle will continue
This is an underrated post
Experience this a lot coming up and I've seen it happen now that I'm a drill sergeant. Young men go through their preteen through teenage years asking for guidance to get through certain issues and then getting slapped down for asking or not knowing how to do things. So they go and get guidance from elsewhere or they come to their own conclusions and then people get pissed off because they're "going about it wrong" or they don't like the source of their information or skills. At some point you have to ask yourself "what exactly did you think was going to happen?"
There are enough sources for getting that kind of guidance other than an abuser with human traffick charges. God damn how far have we come as a society that this dude is seen as a content creator with valid opinions? He is literally the male version of people like Lacey Green who didn't do anything good with their surface level thinking and research on their specific topics. Except for the fact that those were actually somewhat engaged in their topics while this guy is just a martial artist with a business scam.
Finally some sound logic and common sense.
@@fredstolperman2785 you have no idea what youre talking about. You are exactly the problem everyone is talking about
@@fredstolperman2785 The “abuser” and “human trafficker” tags are pure slander and lies. Get the hate out of your heart, humble yourself, then type in Tatespeech. The first vid that will come up on RUclips is a video where he clears his name. Stop believing literal lies about a person you’ve never met.
@@fredstolperman2785 okay all emotions aside but this is exactly the problem everybody's talking about. First and foremost I wasn't defending Andrew Tate. Admittedly he does say some crazy stuff but, a lot of the advice he gives to young men is both truthful and useful and I can understand why so many young people are gravitating towards him. With that said it's pretty much been proven that he's not a human trafficker or an abuser which further proves the point. If you don't like the guy that's fine, but then where are the alternatives? And that's a legitimate question. Because if there are I've never really seen them.
The issue is definitely beyond Andrew Tate himself. When content creators like Stevie Knight, JustPearlyThings, and Jordan Peterson also have had their run ins with platforms canceling them you know it’s bad out here. How men feel has to be discussed in a very specific manner in order to be publicized. If at any moment it’s presented with similar energy as feminist give to men, it’s immediately taken down.
bruh this guy goes way further than the guys you mention, where did those other every mention that rape victims are to blame for being raped, therefore supporting rapists, you comparing tate to them is a massive insult to the other creators
Check out RealFemSapien. She has good content as well and gets a lot of hate for promoting "traditional" female roles and marriage.
@@aces8843 it’s not about comparing the details of their actual content. My point is, the steps taken towards rhetoric involving advocacy on behalf of men is taking the same as women. There are horrible comments made by women that are just as bad as the ones you pointed out by Tate. DA comments, sexual mutilation, and flat out for insinuations of superiority.
@@aces8843 Funnily enough Jordan Peterson still got cancelled off twitter when he's far more tame than Andrew Tate. So that goes against your point. These feminists leftists don't care if you're bad, if you are a proponent of a different opinion you deserve to be silenced according to them
@@aces8843 as far as i remember he said that they are victims. but they know where they go and what to do to not get in a situtation where they have 10x more probabilities of being raped. if i recall correctly he made an analogy around the lines of: "if a dude goes around the most dangerous hood in their city with a huge rolex at night he will get beaten and robbed 9 out of 10 times. is he the victim? yes. Its his responsability being stupid and putting himself in a dangerous situation? also yes
But rampant feminist propaganda such as going on live tv and calling all men trash and garbage isn’t a problem?
Double standards
I wonder who is going stop the crimewave that WEF is creating...
Because we don’t tale women seriously lol
And who said it wasn't?
TV channels and Facebook aren't the same thing, clown.
That's not feminist propaganda, it's vague extremism. Not everyone who stands with ''all men are trash'' have the same explanation. Some say it's provocative and others 100% believe in it. The provocative part is a taunt for people to get to know the problems behind men. The other part is just sexist because they have a very general bias against men. The provocative part will always say 'We know that not ALL men are trash, just some of them... but how can we be sure if we're not wary of every man'.
The way he structured his situation to where everyone ELSE posts his content as a MLM strategy is kind of brilliant. He is that much harder to cancel and it’s all WHITE hat.
Spot on with the White Hat.
You don’t know what mlm is 🤦♂️🤦♂️
How is it an mlm I've been in hu since before the affiliate links.
He has built an environment where people who use his image & content get picked up by the algo and those people make bank, the fact that he doesn’t try to control his IP is completely unheard of. He is literally letting people get Rich off of his image. It’s litterally a win win. Ppl get paid, he gets promoted. You’re a fucking idiot if you think that’s what MLM is. Congrats bro
Not a fan of Andrew Tate, but it's not an MLM. It's just an affiliate program, Multi Level implies that there are multiple levels, and each person benefits based on the earnings of his recruits and this is just an affiliate program, it's as legit as it could be.
MTR and you all are the best version of mentors I have seen for mens issues. You guys both keep it real. Keeping it real each and everyday and living positive lives. Admitting mistakes and showing growth and accountability to be different. Keep up the great work @aba and preach and @mtr
Mediocre Tutorials & Reviews bro?
mtr is a joke...
They quick to ban him but there are female content creators that do the same thing he's doing and they get a pass?
Women are untouchable online. They are always right.
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"You can't tell men to express their troubles, then tell them to stfu because they aren't "real problems" or they aren't as bad as "whatever." - Preach he do be preaching
"You can hate these movements, you can be against them, but until you deal with the underlying societal problems that lead to these movements, everything else is putting a band-aid on an infected wound." -ABA
He hit the Nail on the head with this statement. Censorship does nada
Testosterone dominates and takes over everything. They cannot stop it. It will keep going and going and going.
@@cholkymilkmirage4984 agreed it definitely can’t be stopped
Aba also defended Myron Gaines after he assaulted a 19 year old girl after supplying her with alcohol illegally. I don't think Abba is perfect in his takes. Now he's defending the tate the trafficker
@@KenDotCom I never said either one of them were perfect but they made valid points here. Censorship is not gonna stop Tates influence. I don’t recall the comments on myron I gotta rewatch that video before I say anything about that but from what I’ve seen from research and what others have reported, those trafficking and abuse allegations on Tate weren’t true.
@@JusticeXFalls
I expect you to stop responding because you have zero idea what you talk about. PRIVATE platforms don't want a sex trafficker like tate on there. THEY HAVE ZERO OBLIGATION to provide freedom of speech to bad people. same way they don't want isis, paeodophiles, and terrorists. But you're against censorship so you're OK with isis and paeodophiles being on these platforms right
Controversial opinions aren’t allowed? Freedom of thought? Cutting a man’s tongue out to prove him wrong only does the opposite.
He's been proven wrong tho lol
You’re surprised? Freedom of speech doesn’t exist anywhere online, especially not these mainstream mega-corp platforms. If you say something that goes against the grain, you’ll be removed.
People don’t want to discussion or different ideas, they want idealised echo chambers. It’s cool though we’re all gonna be dead in a few decades anyway.
@@LethalByChoice Like once with the woman driving argument but honestly just general driving if you see it for yourself men are better or atleast less stressful
@@YngNgaHisoka he wasn’t proven wrong on that at all. The entire argument is dependent on your metrics of “better” and we all know what he meant. That being said, In reference to what Daren said, being wrong doesn’t mean you should be silenced. If someone’s wrong correct them decisively, don’t shut them up.
Oh, but it's "hate speech" 🤓
honestly that part when you guys said "you want men to speak, but the moment they do you don't want to hear it" was all that needed to be said. I'm on the other side but i agree with you 100 on this.
There's a difference between a man voicing his common lived experiences and perspectives and someone like Tate spewing genuinely dangerous bullshit while scamming dipshit redpill turds with his MLM scams.
But what does that have to do with people like Tate? he’s not opening up, he’s spreading mass hate propaganda against an entire gender. that’s very different to just “men talking about their feelings”. it’s full-on hate speech
@@symoradesu what mass hate against a gender? do you mean the time he said he would never trust a man to babysit his baby or child? Do you mean the time when he said women should be protected and kept safe? Do you mean the time he said that women are superior at caring and healing others around them?
I don’t want to listen to a man that condones violence against women. There has to be mutual respect.
@@symoradesu So clearly you’re uninformed about the woman on RUclips who runs around telling women they should abort all black male babies? Are we gonna act like “I hate all men or all men are trash” isn’t a thing like seriously?
Ngl I do believe yall are a great example of what our society should do. Yes, you guys have your biases, but you guys still are always open to listen to people and other people's opinions.
So if you guys want someone who's a good role model I'd say you guys
Include Dr. K from HealthyGamerGG and Destiny too
True
They not giving advice for young men. They atheist too. Idk man. They funny though and good entertainment.
I don't always agree with them, but at least I can see where their reasoning comes from.
@@alexika9981 but they are providing different perspectives and views to widen our knowledge and ability to think from both sides. Without ignoring and invalidating the problems and issues.
Imagine waking up every morning being so weak you need to stop others from speaking because feelings.
Imagine breaking terms of service and getting banned
@@chumbue6537 What terms of services did he break tho?
So imagine being religious.
@@chumbue6537 Which hè did not do?
@@chumbue6537 If TOS was applied even remotely evenly, there wouldn't be any discussion
You combat crap ideas with good ideas. If Tate says such patently ridiculous things, he should be combatted and ridiculed in the public square like the fool he is, and everybody will move on with their life. Obsession with denying his access to the public square will just embolden his movement.
Tate basic rhetoric are echoes from the manosphere..he hams it up and exaggerates for shock, to drive thru his points.Its also clear he's playing a character.He goes overboard at times but eliminating him won't remove the conditions that allowed him to gain the prominence he has.
@@incogneto2834 give an example
Nice siege vids
No private company is the public square.
Good.
its bothersome that how so many ladies do not care to understand the male perspective of life,
it will be a big disservice to their male relatives and future sons.
Don't ban them, debate them.
They can't
That's the point they can't and they don't want to be challenged.
You can't debate this guy. He doesn't take accountability into action. It doesn't matter when you can't debate against an irreasonable person like them. You should look up his answer on the trolley problem.
You can't debate people who aren't going to change their beliefs or admit they're wrong. Its like running into a brick wall over and over again.
You can't debate him, in any debate he will not answer to any arguments and just promote his course.
What irritates me about the censorship is that it’s targeted to one side. There are women on TikTok right now building large channels purely based on Hate speech(cough we know the main culprit). The stance is so one sided.
Drew buffalo 🤪😭
The cackling witch drew?
That part. Women are literally shook from the thought that men might start taking life seriously, becoming more driven and start gaining standards that they can afford to demand.
Facts
I actually agree. I am happy that tate got banned but the manhaters on tiktok should get banned too.
Tate is the pendulum swinging back after decades of fat whale feminism which forced people to eat the SJW messaging... Tate was inevitable.
i agree 100%. there are many feminists on social media saying all men should die. it's stupid how misandry is flying under the radar.
I’m an older female and I agree. Some of the stuff I see young women promoting is obscene.
@@kadaleyes nobody ever mentions misandry but calling people misogynistic and saying toxic masculinity is so commonplace it's lost its meaning
decades of "fat whale feminism" compared to centuries of misogyny literally incentivizing women to give up all their human rights and not get an education so that any man with a couple dollars can control them...
@@JamieBleu and yet women were happier back then than they are now..
I'll say it again: If you want someone to stop talking, all you have to do is prove them wrong. Banning someone from speaking, from expressing their worldview - toxic or not..., how is that not fascism, totalitarianism, Catholicism in the Middle Ages? "Shun the blaspemer!", "Banish the heretic!"
"It's different because they were wrong; we are right."
You think what Tate says or esposuses is wrong, counter his argument, refute his claims; and if you're right, he'll become another Flat Earther. But when you try to shut him up, right or wrong, you become the bad guy.
You have to let the person you disagree with speak. Otherwise, you skip the dialogue, the negotiation, where you can find common ground and solutions to societal unrest.
Well said
God bless you. It's hard to see people with common sense like this nowadays. I appreciate you, you're rare.
This is empirically false. As in tested and proven scientifically to be untrue. What we know is, ppl who are proven wrong, even with known objective data, will dig their heels in and get louder and more extreme.
@@CabVideoz That only happens if you claim can't be confirmed. Truth will always prevail, unless it is half baked. Also, proving somebody wrong is not so they can stop talking, but rather for those that need the message to get. You can't save everyone.
Totally disagree. There are many cases where people talk bs, flat out lie, get disproven regularly and still have a loyal follower base. Look at Ben Shapiro (who even got debunked at this channel). There people who are simply good at rhethorics and can make someone look, although totally in the wrong, like an idiot. Or they just choose everytime someone dumber than them like F&F does.
If someone constantly talks shit and spreads fake information while he/she already got debunked a 100 of times, at some point the time for debates is over. And this isn't censorship, it is a necessesity.
Great job IG, you just made this man more polarizing and the people who ride for him will now ride for him even more. Mission failed successfully
What Aba said they are going to spread his message across millions of accounts
That's exactly what they want. The goal is to divide and conquer. This makes men and women even more divided. Everything goes according to plan
Part of me feel like they did it on purpose.
@@Guus115 andrew isnt trying to divide men and women
@@dr.phylisphical9294 he is talking about the agenda of those in power not of Andrew Tate. @G. A. You definitely have a point. I dont care about Andrew but cancelling him did more harm
The worst part is that these platforms talk up their “commitment” to fact checking and having their websites be safe and they won’t do anything about the open slander and false accusations of trafficking that are thrown at Tate. It’s such a joke because these accusations are much more dangerous to our society than anything Tate has said imo.
Cause they part of tyranny as well. They’re getting paid for it by some organization with a lot of power and influence and or someone in the higher ups pulling the strings.
Facts
They have been spewing lies about covid for 2.5 years and none of their videos are taken down
He’s literally said women are property
@@rashanlynn7133 doesn't mean you have to agree with it. Not defending him on that. It's about understanding his character. yet they there's also have racist organizations spewing around in the meta media and harmful and radical news outlets that ignite chaos to general public just like the lgbtq community and but they saw him as a threat to modern society?
I think this ban will provoke a lot of people to post and re-post his content at an even bigger rate to take a shot at the platforms/people who banned him.
Yeah the unfortunate reality of censorship is it gives validation to the people that got censored /: People begin to think they are "woke" different from the majority but right. It just promotes more of an echo chamber. More than likely if he gets banned people will follow him to Hustlers University
@@TheEchase2000 yes exactly. I enjoy his content myself, but I don't agree with everything he says. As you say the banning will further promote an echo chamber because now there's no one to offer other perspectives in the comments for example. People can try but it won't be on neutral ground anymore. Having a solid discussion in an echo chamber will never work. The platforms are supposed to stay neutral not pick sides.
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I see two better role models than Mr Tate right here in this channel. I'm an older gentleman (mid 40s) and I watch you two speak logically and with passion. Don't push yourselves out of the picture. I recommend your channel to my son and all my nephews. Keep up the good work fellas.
The censorship/cancel-culture will indeed evoke a backfire effect, where Tate's followers will see him as a martyr and become more emboldened, and draw more ppl to Tate's camp. I despise most of what I've heard Tate say (some things I agree with, but those were very marginal), but that doesn't mean his voice should be silenced. In fact, if my goal was to defeat what Tate stands for, then the modus operandi should be to engage him in discourse/debate, and/or to embody what i think are healthier values (to counteract Tate's influence). Censoring him looks cowardly and defeatist.
Hate speech should be monitored and suppressed. Have we not learned nothing from the nazis, that spread hate speech and how slowly people embraced his views... and that turned to violence. How covid misinformation turned to lots of Asian got hurt. You really think that if these young kids are going to treat girls as humans or that there will be more violence towards women n girls?
Lol you or anyone else can't "Defeat what he stands for" The entire reason he exists is because we've been missing that energy for so long, the same energy that won wars and built countries and civilizations. Men can't be "allowed" to be men they just ARE and SOYciety is trying to force men to suppress everything that makes them what they are to the core and that is not gonna happen.
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100% but private companies are able to control their platforms however they see fit.
@@seanperez1773 Indeed private companies can make decisions about who they platform, but ppl can still decry the ethics of those decisions. Many ppl decry the apparent hypocrisy, double-standards, hyperbolic allegation, negative ramifications, and/ or overall abuse of these companies' censorship.
"Freedom of speech isn't to protect the speech you do like, it's to protect the type of speech that you don't." - Tommy Sotomayor
Good thing freedom of speech isn't for private companies
@@chumbue6537 The spirit of free speech is about recognizing the importance of free expression as a principle human right.
Be careful hiding behind privatization to justify disrespecting human rights to attack your opposition.
God i miss that Guy, hè is also banned from RUclips as a whole.
Although hè spoke on different topics
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I may not agree with everything he’s said but I believe he has every right to say what he does. This was just dumb to ban in the first place.
While I agree. Facebook has every right to ban him. It may be stupid but it’s their platform. If you don’t like it just delete Facebook
Maybe you’re confused on what owning a social media platform means it’s their right
@@shawn4354 not confused dude. It’s still dumb imo
He has every right to groom children?
Just because one person has the right to say something doesn't mean that have the right to not have consequences. He spews misogynistic, toxic af ideologies. No one should be surprised.
I agree that banning Tate won't solve anything, and may in fact make things worse, but he need to suffer the consequences of the message he puts out. Since he is probably doing this for the money, money needs to be taken away from him.
Damn, right. The multimillionaire world champ dude with god knows how many bugaties... this will show him. Think of the children! lol Yall delusional
When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.
- Tyrion Lannister ✌️
Mfs really be treating a self attested rapist like a beacon of truth. How truly desperate are incels to support men like him?
My man!
no, we fear the hoards of idiots that'll buy into what he says...never underestimate the danger and power of idiots in large groups
Sunday Westeros comes back.
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Man gets banned for being anti-feminism, but “muh patriarchy” is the biggest opp 😂
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This whole debacle just taught me that misandry is ok.
Ok? It's highly encouraged!
Misandry is not encouraged, neither is misogny. There's just ugly pockets of either that pop up from time to time and become prominent for a short time. People don't actually like the type of men and women that spew toxic hateful shit
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I realized that we have grown into a society that superficially virtue signals (what they say sounds good but in practice find out or even denies the confounding variables involved)… talks and regurgitates ideas that are not of their own… I try not to believe in anything too strongly because I find you stop asking questions..
I don’t see any good thru censorship at this point. When people want a service or product people will do anything to get wat they want. When taken away “unjustly” they’ll want it even more because now it’s taboo. Lessening the supply and upping the demand.
Yep that's exactly what happened in the prohibition with alcohol and now it's going to happen with people like Andrew Tate
What censorship? Do you want me. To take a country where actually censorship exists??
@@the_exiled_soul do yourself and everyone favor and look up the definition of censorship.. i can never tell if comments like these are genuine or am I being trolled. We live in country where we expect to be able say what we want under the constitution.. other places don’t have that in there constitution. We do. That’s the difference
@@the_exiled_soul if your talking aboout china or north korea lmao then america isnt to far with the censorship of truth to their citizens, do you live in the USA, you would clearly see how tf we maybe more lied to then most third world contries by our government then
Good ol Streisand effect
The alternatives that don't actually address the issues is what they want because they don't actually care or want the issues addressed. Any words they give saying they want to address these issues is just empty words to be able to say they care so that people can shut up about it.
I'm not buying the solution Tate is offering, but that doesn't mean he is wrong about many of the issues. Meanwhile the people complaining about him and banning him don't want there to even be a true discussion about these issues.
Mainly because the issues would require criticism of women and their behaviour that's why none of these people or media outlets ever tackle the issue, it's much easier and safer to just consistently and constantly blame men
this is the main reason i stopped caring about whether or not he was growing in fanbase or not
And that’s what makes it even more frustrating especially when it comes to addressing the issues of men. Like you said, mainstream society doesn’t WANT to address the issue. When women or girls are struggling with something, there’s a concerted effort in getting to the root of the problem and solving it. Men and boys don’t get the same treatment. Society loves to talk about how boys are struggling in school but not how to FIX the issue.
W thread fellas. Straight up bars 💯
that is NOT why he's getting banned
Honestly I think that you two are the answer to your own question "who's the alternative." I understand out of humility you can't say that, but I think you two are a good influence on not only young men, but people in general. I started watching your videos when I was 15 and now I'm in my 20s, and I really appreciate the lessons you guys gave which has shaped me. I wish there were more people with your wisdom and mindset because I find myself having the best conversations with those people even though they are scarce. I think one of the most important things you guys said was "cleaning your own closet" or helping your community first rather than focusing so heavily on global problems. I'd love to hear more about that or possibly get a chance to pick y'all's brain on the topic. Regardless, keep helping people be their best selves.
They aren't the alternative lol they're part of the problem actually.
@@theezenriarinze9203 how so?
@@bumpero47 They said, “Let me make a rebuttal with no follow up and dip.”
@@GombySprangster At least you're aware enough to know you're full of shit, that's a rare quality these days.
@@bumpero47 Because they're part of greater issue of only being critical and speaking on these issues when it happens to be men saying outlandish ish. Ppl in general weren't having these critical thinking conversation untill 2020 before that ppl like Aba and Preach we're saying jack shit in response to egregious disenfranchisement and systemic targeting of men. Everyone is only responding now because men are retaliating not because what is being said is wrong. For decades women, laws, academia media, have been pushing toxicity against men and the masses weren't calling for mass bans and deplaforming it was empowerment.
Censorship will make this man a martyr, and once he comes back it will be "worse" than his haters ever thought it could be. If you want this to stop, create the content and address the issue. Don't just talk smack about someone you don't like, try to cancel them, then shift the blame.
I don't follow this man or the ideologies of the red pill community, but to stand on the other side and point "this man is bad" while not contributing anything of value or substance that men can turn to... why do you think he has fans? Young men who are trying to grow in a "traditional" masculine sense are struggling now more than ever, have nowhere to turn and nobody to look to.
Well fucking said.
Just because I don't want to create a podcast doesn't prevent me from making valid criticisms of the people who do.
Well said. Unfortunately this won't make top likes because for every man trying to grow. There is 10 women telling them to stay stagnant.
Exactly.
@@nothingnobody1454 Criticism is great, it can promote dialogue which can open people to different points of view, if done constructively. The censorship is the issue, especially when nothing else is created and distributed to redirect or educate his audience.
The censorship without anyone challenging his point of view and promoting a different train of thought is just another tally for his side.
This is a classic example of the Streisand effect. Andrew Tate being banned put an even bigger spotlight on him.
Wonderful, they made him a martyr. Censorship will never fix the actual problem. It's nothing but a temporary solution.
When will these clowns understand.
These dumbfucks got TRUMP ELECTED, because they made him a martyr
It's never a solution. Being able to discuss uncomfortable topics is part of living in reality. Take that away and suddenly you get people mutilating their bodies to feel good about themselves.
@@Blackpapalink What part of wanting to use a machete and choke out women do you want to discuss? If you don't have a line and think everything is fair game to be talked about, you don't actually know what you're agreeing to because, surprise, something will come up sometime and you will draw the line. People in these comment sections don't seem to understand subtext and what it means.
If you're calling this censorship, is berating someone with racist slurs or homophobic slurs or sexist slurs and them being caught/called out/sentenced "censorship"? Cause that's also free speech but it's hate speech. See the difference?
A martyr? LMAO
y’all acting like he is the first to say all the shit he is saying. There were a million other con artists before him, he is nothing new.
@@Drewstein69 Being called out/shamed/cancelled is not discussion. You're not informing people on what is wrong and why it's bad. You're just doing it the way the American prison system works. Punishment with no chance of absolution and redemption. That leads to repeat offenders and like Aba and Preach said, it makes people wonder why it's being erased. If we didn't learn about slavery and discuss what happened during that time, would we know why it's wrong to enslave people? Or would we just know, they said slavery is bad. One has a reason behind why it's bad, the other is a blank slate that can either lead to the right answer or the experimental hypothesis. Censoring the communist and fascist regime is why we have people unironically believing communism has never been properly done before.
I don't care if no one likes you and your content, you should be able to speak your mind no matter what. (Obviously I'm not talking about calls to action threatening people or calls to hurt someone) My reasoning is that if you silence one person just because they have a different view point, then anyone can be banned for any view point. We need to protect our speech not hinder it over feeling.
you started with a point then quickly sunk into the quagmire of the issue with your obviously not..... giving a litany of things you want to exclude from freedom of speech. See the problem is other people including the ones that own these platforms have their own littanies that might not match yours. It's either all game or shut up and accept each private company's boundaries.
No
@@australienski6687 snowflake
@@TheInterestedObserver Hence we need to come together as a society and come to a solution. Social media is far too influential for morons like you to be using the "muh private corporation" bs. If you were okay with big tech censorship you BETTER be okay with store owners refusing service go anyone they like.
@@australienski6687kys
As a guy who watched fresh and fit and liked their videos for couple of months before realizing they sounded more like clowns. I liked them only because it felt like when it came to feeling alone and not knowing why or what your doing wrong it felt like they gave a solution. When it came to privilege that pretty women get they called them out. It felt like they were the only ones pushing a conversation that I felt never gets to happen with women or anyone because I’m a white guy quiet up and listen to how you are oppressing me. Being cheated or lied to is your fault as the guy be better. Believe the word of a victim don’t be a critical thinker. This was what I found from “male" role models until I found someone with a better reasonable opinion on those topics and felt better about myself. Luckily I also have male role models in my life but most are not this privileged anymore. Appreciate what you guys post and help see other perspectives.
Latest FnF with Destiny is a really good episode. I don't watch them myself but I was overjoyed to finally hear civil discussion between people with a lot of fundamentally different views
L
Pretty dudes have a lot of privilege too, js
@@musicfriendly12 you still get to a point where it's hard to create genuine connection with the opposite sex because they want to f you. Been there. It doesn't happen as often so it's overlooked. But I can confirm it happens, too. Not saying there aren't privileges, ofc there are. But it cuts both ways
Ao you flip flopped
I feel like there are lots of good role models out there that don't get as much attention because being good and responsible isn't as flashy and in your face as people like Tate are. I think modern culture values success and relevancy more than being a good person, and so the people who are held up by society are the people who have flashy unreal lifestyles and who sell a lie that appeals to the people who lack a feeling of belonging and meaning in life
Modern society has changed both men and women. Traditional values are still valued but a lot less and sometimes only in specific situations. Being a hardworking, respectful and morally uncompromised man is not enough for a lot of women this day. Perhaps it was never enough and In the past people only stayed together because there was less opportunity in general, contemporary technology may just have exposed the hypergamous nature of women more than ever before. And yeah these red pill guys (although I wouldn't throw them all in the same basket) are very much in demand because young guys feel lost and I totally get that as a guy myself. Modern metropolitan societies have fucked over men. And now you have guys like Tate that offer an alternative view and lifestyle that focuses on the extremes of what it means to be masculine. Maybe men feel they have to go so far in the other direction because what they've been told their whole life in school, family, workplace doesn't work for them. I have times where I need to feel really masculine so I can feel good about myself, but masculinity is not a thing that is celebrated in modern culture.
Tate is popular because he has the 3 pillars that every man wants in life.
1. Extreme financial stability
2. The ability to attract women
3. The ability to defend yourself undoubtedly
And when u have these at their max, then your confidence is unstoppable. Of course he says what he says and does what he does....so wld you.
so would anyone in that situation
I'll bet you'd blow him if given the chance, simp boy.
Freedom
In other words he has the freedom most men wish they had…
@@TheLandOfTears exactly
This is slowly going to back fire and people are going to figure ways to control their own content. Make it difficult to censor. Even if I don’t agree with your content, I’m not ever gonna support censorship.
They are on their own content the problem is you need these big tech companies who have access to millions in gazillion of people to provide your content too and sell it
Difficult to censor? You clearly don't understand how machine learning and Artificial intelligence filters work. Tik tok pressed a button today and removed any video containing tate the sex trafficker. Lol
He can say whatever he likes, but there will be consequences. He can start his own platform if he needs to spew more bullshit. Byeeeee!
@@lSynonymousl ppl like you are the problem and you will regret being so willing to be controlled one day. We probably all will. So pathetic we are…
He is still very capable of speaking
You might respect other people's views even if they're not yours, but you still wouldn't want them in your front yard preaching their opinions
It's the same thing with the companies 🤷♂️
Except I'm also sure they don't respect his views either lol
But the principle remains
He can still talk, just not in their territory (tiktok,yt, so on)
He can't be cancelled. He doesn't have tiktok, instagram, facebook. Anything. People share his content all over for him. You can't cancel a guy that doesn't give a f*ck
Women will come out in support of women on issues they struggle with. When men speak about their issues, other men are noticeably absent in the conversation. That needs to change.
Preach!!! These feminists accomplished what they have now because they stood together with their message....the same can't be said with these guys though and that's how it even went this far
This ban will most likely not affect him much, but rather I think it will increase his popularity.
Agreed. I think Tate says a lot of dumb shit and in part he does play a character but now that he’s banned I’m full tate camp. Just to spite.
@@phalanx8437 We got fucking ISIS members on Twitter among the taliban being on there...
Nah. Look at Alex Jones, they cancel all videos with him in.
@@jandersen6802 Alex Jones isnt popular to begin with
It will. He and his fans were already talking about how he talked so much truth they’re trying to silence him. Well they did. If anything him and his fanbase will double down and multiply
The simple fact that he's THIS impactful without a RUclips channel just proves that Tate won't be canceled. Even if you feel that his message is "toxic," there are a lot of young men who don't have mentors or role models who look up to this guy and will continue to push his message. Good trying to "cancel" him.
He does have a RUclips channel
@@michaelslifecycle no he doesn’t
@@singhfrmqns have you even attempted to look it up?
@@michaelslifecycle it’s fake channels that garner views and subscribers and add fake links in. Tate himself has addressed that.
@@singhfrmqns he does lol, it’s called TateSpeech
Yep it is bad censorship and they need to stop doing this bs. Hopefully tate or someone can find a way to get by this.
The internet isn’t a public utility 🤣. Who tf are y’all and how old are you?? Right wingers are so fkin dumb I love it. If you want that too happen, and I actually agree with you, it needs too be a public utility. Facebook, instagram, tik whatever: THEYRE ALL PRIVATE COMPANIES. Get it through your fkin skully. Left is best. Right is diet lite… sheeeeeit right wing is just fascist at this point. That’s hilarious you think it’s cEnSoRsHiP lmfao
Censorship is bad in general like one of the most infamous one is the ban on science by religion we shot ourselves with our own gun by doing that
lol he doesnt need to people already do that for him
I would personally find it really funny if it happened to be your mother or daughter that was beaten senseless by Andrew Tate and prostituted out like cattle.
there is no good censorship
There are women being sexualized on tiktok and being shown to kids yet they're still 'platformed'
Bruh, there's people taking their kids to drag queen shows, handing their kids dollar bills to put into the drag queen's thongs, and nobody's deplatforming them when they upload it to tik tok.
how dare you!!! Shaking your genitals in front of a camera, with their azzcrack only covered with a thong, is VERY EMPOWERING. That’s exactly what women wanted all along, they wanted to show that they wanna be valued for their brain, intellect & character not for their bodies!! That’s clearly what they are portraying here!! You are the problem you sexist bigot!!!!
Honestly, as an official 20 year old man (today is my birthday) I have to say if I ever had a positive role model it would be you guys I’ve been watching for years. It doesn’t take a genius to know difference in beliefs isn’t welcome but with you guys it is and I appreciate the influence you’ve had on my life thus far.
Happy Birthday Kostoa hope u have a good one!
Happy birthday!!! May your 20s be all you need them to be and not too rough ;)
Happy birthday bud, im 20 as well
Happy birthday! :)
Happy Birthday and god bless
Men aren't seen as human in the eyes of society. We are emotionless tools who provide for women.
Isn't that ironic?
Tate views woman as property, he flat out says woman are his property.
Oh but when it's towards woman, you're perfectly okay with it.
Andrew Tate literally teaches you to be emotionless..
@@chumbue6537 two sides of the same coin. You can say the same to women who hate what tate says yet praise or ignore women who are as toxic.
@@chumbue6537 Not every men can do what Andrew Tate does but every women can do what OP here implies.
L take
@@chumbue6537 So having boundaries as a guy is not okay? The women in his life can choose to walk away if they don't like his boundaries. Why are they still with him then?
The very reason social media exist because people can express their emotion tell their opinion
Yeah Andrew Tate says some controversial things
But it doesn't means you'll just Ban him😒
I hate censorship period. I'm a Romanian immigrant that escaped from Communism by moving to the United States of America. I absolutely hate what's infecting politics, and society here.
Andrew Tate was just the mouthpiece for what is ailing men in general. Men's issues are being sidelined, censored, and not taken seriously, and we're tired of the bs.
And you think that you should punch women in the face for it? That is Tates logic and behaviour.
@@marijn3623 when has Andrew tate ever condoned violence against women?
Yeah he’s just speaking what a lot of men are thinking
we have people here who are starving for masculine role models. they hardly exist anymore.
They’re criticized ridiculed and censored.
Romania is such a beautiful country with an ugly past. Always wanted to visit!
@@marijn3623 you're just lieing....that's all you do really....its just pathetic....you're as intelligent as a rock...so do us a favor and just stfu....rocks don't talk 🤣🤣🤣
Society: "we want men to open up and talk about their concerns and tell us how they feel"
*Andrew Tate and a million followers enter the chat*
Society: "Nooooo not like that! Cancelled!!"
He wasn’t taking about his feeling tho. Man was straight up dehumanising women and telling people how to be misogynistic psycho.
What that means is "we want men to open up so we can use it against them later and also emasculate them".
@@KM10HM12 Can you tell me what the word misogynist means without Googling it?
@kiki9619 No he didn't say that, stop capping and hearing what you wan to hear. He said if you do things that are conducive to something happening to you then you are partly responsible for what happened, he didn't say anything about deserving it.
I dont think u get the point of the vid..
I would say yall are a positive voice rather you want it or not. I appreciate you guys for what you do in this space. Understanding is key and it seems like there are people fighting just to fight.
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They admit they arent positive voices cus they CHOOSE to stay out of it.
well said
You guys are my positive male role models 😶
Me and my wife were going through a rough patch. I was looking through the internet to find advice for my relationship. I can confirm what Aba said. There’s no good advice to be found.
psychology in seattle though he gives a lot of good advice if you're willing to watch his reactions lol
the advice is on the red pill side of youtube, which is a small minority of youtubers
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Watch tribe of men, poor mans podcast, the mtr show. So many good redpill content
@@mohamedadan6678 the red pill side of RUclips is what I’m talking about with the possibility of Rian Stone. He ok.
Imagine making a society built upon the freedom of speech, and then you ban people from your platform for talking 🤡
imagine you thinking social media is part of the government.
@@insanezombie174 imagine thunking they dont leverage their id's from different countries to ide tify with ones on different days.
Imagine thinking freedom of speech exist
@@insanezombie174 Imagine knowing who edward snowden is or how Facebook has been being used for the past decade. Imagine having any actual knowledge at all in fact
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence
What these hard twitter lefties fail to comprehend is that we are not defending Andrew Tate, or the dumb shit he says. We are defending his right to say that dumb shit.
As long as he doesn't incite violence or abuse of any kind, he should be allowed to say whatever "philosophy" he spews, regardless of whether or not you agree with it.
I mean yeah, but also he has many allegation of abuse, pimping, and even sextrafficing. He teaches people to make side money amd practices like pimping. Not saying the deplatforming is justified but its not out of the realm he is inciting abuse and violence.
And his philosophy is religion based
@@desertrose88 How?
@@desertrose88 so do you in that case, I'm offended and triggered by what you said, now I'm going to self-harm so you're the bad guy. Everything and anything you say can offend someone but that doesn't mean we should censor speech. People have become to soft.
@@mlgprogamer2430 No not completely.
We repeatedly see attempts to silence male voices. It happened with Joe Rogan. It’s happening again here. We see lots of women so thrilled to repost an article about male loneliness like they’re winning something. We see men accused of being insecure, “small”, gay, broke, or incels all the time and nobody gets outraged. Our sons, our brothers, our fathers, all have feelings and struggles. But in movies and shows and online we see those feelings and struggles minimized, ignored, or made into a joke. Yet we men are strong. We are smart. We are adaptable. We will always support someone that gives voice to what we deal with because it’s so rare to hear it. That’s why this channel is important. Not all men agree. Aba and Preach have different views than Fresh and Fit and Tate. But we men are always going to seek out those voices despite aggressive efforts to silence them.
You people are pathetic, a mass violence propaganda and rape apologist gets silenced and you call it “women trying to suppress us”. Get a job and shut up
He is spreading hate speech and telling it to a vulnerable audience under the guise of self liberation, my guy. How does talking about why women are property and deserve to be graped/deserve domestic and verbal abuse for disagreeing with her mans “commands”, showing men how to choke and hurt them and yell at them, something that deserves a platform and voice. I do agree though how it’s not good that they didn’t healthily solve this and just decided to ban him instead of find the root of the issue and address it. But I’m happy he’s off the platform a bit because he doesn’t deserve one. He is dangerous.
@@plants_are_pretty_cool5851 I disagree. If you actually take the time ro listen to his podcasts or interviews, which are often over an hour long, then you actually get to see a side of him you don't see Tik Tok wants you to see. Like Aba and Preach said, there is a reason why so many young men gravitate towards him. And many things he does say actually are reasonable such as being the protector and provider for a woman. Or when he addresses male issues. That's why they gravitate towards him. I don't think he is dangerous. I think he is just the voice many young men who are lost today and being shamed to oblivion for no other reason than being male need.
@@plants_are_pretty_cool5851 Are you sure you’ve heard him say that or is that something you heard other people claim that he said?
They were so against KS and now that he's gone, someone else way worse has taken his place. As long as society keeps trying to bury men's issues, the worse role models are going to be.
Bruh nothing "worse about tate". He earned his money and status and can talk as much shit as he want.
Fact is he was spitting fax
@@hnn8759 yeah i guess he stated the truth 100% of the time and never lied right?
@@hnn8759 yeah there’s nothing wrong with Tate but KS actually wanted to help men and women alike. He wasn’t just trying to be an example.
Oh yea that’s a good point
@@user-pw4lc8xs5e pardon my ignorance but who is KS? Is that an abbreviation or something else
Im very happy that through your channel I learned things about relationships, accountability, expressing my opinions, shutting the fuck up and listening to others, not playing the hero and getting myself killed and much more. Im pretty sure that many others have been influenced from you and learned things from you and while I do understand that, yeah this is a job for you, you do actually care about mens problems and want to help young guys. So even though you aren't really self help gurus, thank you guys for helping me and many others whether it is by making us laugh or by giving solid advice for us young guys
Jesus loves you, I’m glad you’re doing okay.
It’s easy to understand that alt-left tech censorship is the exact same as the sentinels in X-Men & The Matrix movies right? They hunt, capture and jettison free thought & free speech. It’s a horrific reality and yet here we are. Vaush, Hassan, David Pakman, Destiny, Dave Chappelle, all left wing, all censored & banned from leftist platforms. What the hell is that? Who’s next? Best believe 2022 will have many victims of these SJW sentinels.
Yep
I feel like this type of "cancelling" is like trying to tell people what to think in a way. Like you're telling people they're not able to handle hearing something polarizing and deciding their own course of action. Just because you remove the message, doesn't mean you've removed the sentiment
💯💯💯
That's just censorship in general.
you may have killed the man but you never killed the idea
I'm surprised nobody learned this when Kevin Samuels died (Rest in Power). All because he died, the people against him thought that his message died with him. They couldn't had been more wrong.
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Did anyone see Daz video of Andrew Tate abusing women? Listen, as a 44 year vet of corporate America I would have booted him also.
In terms of a positive role model, I would like to note that Jordan B. Petersen is/was an inspiration for many.
He was not without his flaws, but he explained his perspectives in an intellectual and articulate manner.
Although he tried to be as reasonable as possible, many also hated him and constantly tried to get him cancelled.
The bigger issue at hand is that ANY man that speaks on behalf of the current men's issues will be bullied, shamed, and potentially threatened.
Either fall in line with the modern zeitgeist, or be shamed into silence.
Yeah.. Isnt Jordan also being silenced, banned etc. Which is the point of this video
He's one of the least controversial figures but people still try to call him every -ism in the book
@@AndrewHadi07 I was addressing Aba's point at ~2:35, when he remarks, " Where are all of these other positive role models?"
In terms of your response, YES, the point of the video is to discuss censorship, but specifically Andrew Tate.
JBP has been a positive role model for many and yet he was also silenced to a certain degree.
My point is that no matter whose the "role model" or their message, someone will interpret their words in a way that allows them to be "offended."
If they elevate M, address M's issues, or point out the flaws in today's dating market, along with conflicts with W;
They will be silenced or shunned because we largely ignore M's concerns while prioritizing W's needs.
Even if more good role models come along, society will always find a way to minimize or attack them.
You're exactly right. Man couldn't be further away from Andrew Tate if he tried. Tate even fucked his daughter haha. And you're exactly right, literally the only common ground these two have is they try, in their own ways, to push a message of masculinity and male excellence and its necessary place in the culture.
And they're both demonised for it.
Luckily Peterson has learned how to stop giving a shit and Tate never has.
I agree but Jordan is on a totally different intellectual level than guys like Tate or this sneako kid (whos totally braindead). These 2 are contradicting themselves and think its ok for men to be ho*s and have harems and dont take part in raising kids at all, but they want women to be modest and loyal and all that. Make it make sense. Banning someone will only add fuel to the fire though. Just let people ramble their stuff and let the people decide. Its not like someone was calling for mass murder.
Couldn't agree with you guys more, especially when Aba said that all this is just putting a band-aid on an infected wound and Preach said that Andrew is a symptom of a cancer.
It wasn’t a smart take - everyone knows his ban won’t solve misogyny but it takes away a harmful platform and that’s all.
@@celinemara565 doesn't take away anything, Tate didn't really post his views on Instagram anyway. Most of his content is posted on tiktok by thousands of different People . This hadn't silenced Tate, this has just made him a martyr. All that has been done is show the media is afraid of what Tate has to say, which suggests to many that he was right. Censorship is never the answer, you just cede the moral high ground to the person you've silenced
@@booncrocus2722 he was silenced for spreading hate speech and promoting violence not because he is right and censorship is certainly the answer 😍
He's an unintended side effect of truth, the cancer is what he's addressing, and thats feminism, and the welfare state.
@@celinemara565 "Hate speech", "misogyny", "harmful"; these are terms that have become essentially meaningless, yet you still parrot them as if it constitutes an argument.
Just admit that Tate hurt your feelings, and you don't really have anything of substance to counter his points.
How have they still not learned, they've been doing this since the 80s with music censorship. Twisted Sister, Marilyn manson, Tupac, biggie, snoop, NWA, Alice Cooper. As soon as they were banned from touring in places there album's would sellout everywhere in a week. This happened so much that it came to a point where artists and record companies would actively try to get banned, and have the parental advisory logo put on the cover it would guarantee an increase in sales that's what censorship like this actually does. I only know the names of Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson and Milo Yianoppolis because of public outcry to ban them all that did was make me wanna hear what they had to say. I sort them out because they were banned and I doubt I'm alone in that.
Excellent comparisons
lmao the fact that you chose to use ben shapiro and jordan peterson of all people to try to reinforce your point is hilariously tone deaf.
@@BusquedaBlues shoo shoo bot fly
@@BusquedaBlues and why would that be? The point being I only know of them because people tried to cancel them by banning them from speaking on college campuses and such. Essentially meaning that cancelling them made them if anything MORE famous.
As was the case with the musicians people found them offensive and tried forcing them out of the publics view.
@@BusquedaBlues 🤡
I see a lot of ppl saying that don’t agree with a lot of the stuff Tate says. Would anyone care to elaborate on some things he’s said that you don’t agree with?
banning Tate literally just put his name back into the minds of everyone. Tate will view this as nothing more than a marketing tactic. gg Leftists, you took another L
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@@ItzMalick I gave you a sub since you asked. Good luck on your social media journey. Stay true to the Game, homie
Crazy thing about Andrew is that personally for me the algorithm is pushing him even though I don’t watch redpill stuff anymore so I can’t avoid this man even if I wanted to I just wanna watch my anime and animals videos in my recommendations. I sure wish they would put all this effort in censoring these misandrists and femcels as much as the misogynist and incels
Yet andrew isnt none of thoose things
If your gonna say something provid evidence and dont do that twitter thing and go into his past.
@@dr.phylisphical9294 what are you talking about I didn’t say Andrew Tate was anything I don’t watch his crap you fanboy Im just pointing out double standards on social media I don’t care about wealthy people like some people do
@@dr.phylisphical9294 It ain't a twitter thing to say you probably shouldn't take life advice from a guy with such a weird and creepy past. You think we shouldn't judge people for their actions? This guy is a human trafficking rapist, who hops borders to find the easiest place to find victims.
@@dr.phylisphical9294 yeah, he's just an idiot
When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.
This is true, my friend!
Like that
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It’s easier to cancel one man than it is to solve a societal problem. So I get what they’re doing.
"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." -the best lannister
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@@ItzMalick sure my boy
But Tywin never said that, that was Tyrion.
Bro he broke instagram’s rules, it’s not censorship.
@@John-kc4cg Look at the comment fool, "The best lannister" is Tyrion.
Tate knew this was coming, in fact he's probably been hoping for this day. It proves everything he stands to fight against and I can see him capitalise on it crushingly
He will market himself as a champion of men's rights, and tell the boys following that he tried to teach them to improve their miserable depressing lives but the world silenced him. Cancelling him is honestly the best situation he could've hoped for, he is now a martyr who's message will live on beyond him
you do realise he has been banned plenty times right? I think he is on his ninth ban on Twitter right now. He did not appear two months ago, he's been doing this for years.
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W take Aba
Not a fan of Andrew, but you is right. Censorship only causes that person's power and influence to grow
The other side are so ignorant to why men are drawn to Andrew in the first place
Btw Raycons are garbage earphones
if they keep sponsering raycon after this they just don't care or don't have super high standards for headphones
Not sure if they are ignorant or just fear the kind of masculinity and capitalism he represents. The type to scream to ban him are probably more on the socialist to communist ideology and want men to be more docile and feminine.
@@sharinglungs3226 or they're just idiots, hypocritical or sheep like most of society
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Fun part he gets censured by the people claiming equality, freedom of speech .Now well dare telling me that joke ain't funny
What's crazy is that Andrew literally said this was going to happen to him.
he has been banned a ton of times already and if you say things like, rape is partially your own fault then you kind of have to expect this. Twitter have banned him nine times in the past six years
It's not hard to say you're going to get banned than break TOS to get banned
@@AbstractVader 😅
@@AbstractVader what did he even do to break the TOS
@@strikerron2252 being Tai Lopez 2.0
No men gotta "step up" for women, I got fired from my last job for quote on quote "not speaking to women enough" it wasn't in my contract to do that and women aren't entitled to my attention.
WOW, are you serious?!?!?
Thats fucked up.. yet if you spoke to women too much they would have said that you were bothering them
@@StrengthInTruth yes, a UK company, I can't name them as I signed an NDA , but with all female management. The team of security guys also figured out that one of the management was attracted to me but I played it down/try to ignore so I could keep the job professional and get my money... But obviously it wasn't good enough, I would say hello and how are you, but that's about it. They expected me to chat them up and I refused. Weird place to work
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This is just going to give him more clout, the absolute last thing he needs.
Why
Yeah.
He's a degenerate but now he will double down on his message and cause more men to loose themselves...
The more clout the better. His message needs to be spread
@@JesusOrDestruction his message isn't relevant to 99% of the ppl that watch him
The kind of men who worship Andrew Taint will end up sui×idal later...
People don't want to hear what "you" have to say, they just want "you" to say what they want to hear.