Sections of airplane EMITTING HEAT. Smell of smoke. Delta Boeing 767 diverts to Honolulu. Real ATC

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
  • THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
    27-JAN-2024. A Delta Air Lines Boeing 767-300 (B763), registration N198DN, performing flight DAL316 / DL316 from Kahului Airport, HI (USA) to Salt Lake City International Airport, UT (USA) during climb out of Kahului requested to level-off at 21000 feet and decided to divert to Honolulu Daniel K. Inouye International Airport, HI (USA). Later the flight crew declared an emergency and reported heavy strong smoke odor with sections of the airplane emitting heat. After landing the airplane stopped on the runway and requested the inspection by the emergency services.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Description of situation
    00:17 Delta 316is climbing out of Kahului
    00:44 The pilots stop climb at 21000 and divert to Honolulu International Airport
    03:20 The flight crew declared an emergency. Heavy strong smoke in the cabin. Sections of airplane emitting heat
    05:17 The airplane was transferred to the frequency of Approach Controller
    06:15 The pilot contacts airport Tower controller
    06:50 Landing. The airplane stops on the runway. Communication with emergency services
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    THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
    THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
    SOURCES OF MATERIAL, LICENSES AND PERMISSIONS:
    Source of communications - www.liveatc.net/ (I have a permission (Letter) for commercial use of radio communications from LiveATC.net).
    Map, aerial pictures (License (ODbL) ©OpenStreetMap -www.openstreetmap.org/copyrig...) Permission for commercial use, royalty-free use.
    Radar screen (In new versions of videos) - Made by author.
    Text version of communication - Made by Author.
    Video editing - Made by author.
    HOW I DO VIDEOS:
    1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
    2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
    3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
    4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
    5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
    6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
    7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.

Комментарии • 102

  • @Hopeless_and_Forlorn
    @Hopeless_and_Forlorn 4 месяца назад +6

    Everybody's A team was on shift for that one. What a great job they did, from the initial controller to the CFR crew. Well done.

  • @327Erich
    @327Erich 4 месяца назад +3

    I like that, after the aircraft requested to level off at 21000', the controller immediately asked if they needed assistance. I'm sure it's part of a protocol, but could easily be overlooked (or ignored) on a busy frequency. Always good to bring light to a *possible* issue before an emergency is declared. When the pilots are busy with checklists, A-N-C, etc., it's nice to see ATC being proactive in the situation.

    • @janossowski1490
      @janossowski1490 4 месяца назад

      Definitely not part of protocol. Just very unusual request, so it indicates some unusual situation

  • @1999fxdx
    @1999fxdx 4 месяца назад +4

    I’m thinking air conditioning, actually quite important because that also pressurizes the cabin.
    Also 26L means Unusual weather.

  • @jeroenlodder5838
    @jeroenlodder5838 4 месяца назад +2

    Imagine this happening as single pilot. What some airlines are looking into… single pilot with lots of tech assistance.

  • @scott3390
    @scott3390 4 месяца назад

    So what happens to this aircraft now? ‘No fault found’ ? And out on the next flight? Grounded? How do they clear the fault that was obviously
    There in the air and then disappeared

  • @SoloPilot6
    @SoloPilot6 4 месяца назад +8

    To the guy who doesn't understand how flying and communication work:
    First, they determined that there was an issue. As a precaution, the halted the climb and headed for HNL while they evaluated the situation.
    Second, once they had checked things out, they decided that heading to HNL was the right choice.
    Third, they eventually decided that the situation was evolving from a mere inconvenience and becoming more serious, at which point they declared, gave an explanation, and everyone worked to resolve the emergency.

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +1

      If you want to respond to something I've written, look for the "Reply" button below the post and click on it. I understand that Delta 316 might have communicated better, that miscommunication has contributed to aviation accidents, and that the miscommunication in this case did not imperil the flight and I've made all that clear. Your indignation is unmotivated and pointless.

    • @SoloPilot6
      @SoloPilot6 4 месяца назад +5

      @@rdbchase Nah, it's so much more fun to mock your ignorance as a separate post.

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад

      @@SoloPilot6 What ignorance is that? I understand the issues involved just fine. Arrogant pilots have killed very many people, as anyone who watches many air crash investigations videos knows.

    • @JohnSmith-zi9or
      @JohnSmith-zi9or 4 месяца назад

      @@rdbchase You really should stop replying to these videos. I already handed you your ass on another video.

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад

      @@SoloPilot6 Feel free to identify what you're talking about. Arrogant pilots have killed many people.

  • @1999fxdx
    @1999fxdx 4 месяца назад

    Never much traffic in the HCF

  • @datcatfish99
    @datcatfish99 4 месяца назад +1

    I know alot of these Delta 763s are being modded for new VIASAT wifi antennas currently. Wonder if this has anything to do with that

    • @JimmysSpeedShop
      @JimmysSpeedShop 4 месяца назад

      Oh boy

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад

      "767". Why?

    • @Daynja1
      @Daynja1 4 месяца назад

      @@rdbchase Assuming you're asking why they said 763, that's short for 767-300.

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад

      @@Daynja1 No, I corrected "763" and inquired why datcatfish99 wondered whether modifications for a VIASAT antenna could have related to the smell of smoke being detected.

    • @gorak9000
      @gorak9000 4 месяца назад

      @@rdbchase 'Viasat - our satellite internet is so fast, the plane will catch on fire"

  • @apple54345
    @apple54345 4 месяца назад +1

    The aircraft departed 18 hours later, but...... what was the issue?

    • @user-bc3ho9yv5g
      @user-bc3ho9yv5g 4 месяца назад

      It ain’t making any $$ sitting on the ground that’s the issue

  • @clownhands
    @clownhands 4 месяца назад +6

    Please provide fuel remaining in cubic feet when able

  • @johnhoss2950
    @johnhoss2950 4 месяца назад +3

    Thankfully the good controller was on duty, departing POGG.

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A 4 месяца назад

      PHOG

  • @08turboSS
    @08turboSS 4 месяца назад +1

    Why not return to the closer dept arpt?

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +3

      Possibly because Honolulu's airport is larger and has better emergency services; I suppose the difference in flight time would be negligible.

    • @saxmanb777
      @saxmanb777 4 месяца назад +4

      OGG has really short runways. Better to go to HNL.

  • @christopher88719
    @christopher88719 4 месяца назад +1

    Why do some pilots/procedures have them stop on the runway vs taking a highspeed taxiway to clear the runway?

    • @andreea007
      @andreea007 4 месяца назад +10

      If there's any indication / risk of fire, you'll probably want the plane checked asap, especially if you have passengers onboard. For example, if you have fuel leaks, you might burst into flames while taxying.
      To my knowledge, it's the Captain's call if and where the inspection is performed. I personally wouldn't risk the lives of everybody onboard just to score some points for clearing the runway quickly.

    • @redbullsauberpetronas
      @redbullsauberpetronas 4 месяца назад +4

      Years ago there was a Saudi flight that caught fire and tried taxing to the gate instead of stopping on the runway and that decision killed everyone on board

    • @boahneelassmal
      @boahneelassmal 4 месяца назад +4

      @@andreea007 taxiways are narrow for widebodies. now have firetrucks manoeuvre all around the aircraft. you need the space the runway gives you.
      also, much easier to evacuate onto the runway than onto a grass patch.

  • @Rag3Again
    @Rag3Again 4 месяца назад

    May it be a fume event ?
    Still no medical check in this case, for passengers and crew ?

  • @ronwade5646
    @ronwade5646 4 месяца назад +3

    What made all the heat and smoke at first and, did someone vape in the toilet

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +2

      Do you suppose that someone vaping in a restroom could relate to sections of the aircraft emitting heat or an odor of smoke?

    • @Mike.The.Jeweler
      @Mike.The.Jeweler 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@rdbchase hysteria can easily cause that. Someone sees smoke from someone vaping, freaks out, tells the cabin crew, game of telephone starts, suddenly everyone can smell smoke, walls are hot to the touch, and nothing is to be found when you hit the ground

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Mike.The.Jeweler Vaping doesn't produce smoke in the first place; it seems unlikely that someone could mistake an exhalation for evidence of fire. Vaping in a restroom could easily trigger a smoke detector however.

    • @Mike.The.Jeweler
      @Mike.The.Jeweler 4 месяца назад

      @@rdbchase vape / smoke look exactly the same to sketched out boomers friend.

  • @user-cs8ec6zy5m
    @user-cs8ec6zy5m 4 месяца назад +5

    Lucky delta MX who ever gets to go downline for this fix gonna be a few day trip

    • @NominalOrbit
      @NominalOrbit 4 месяца назад +1

      Lolz

    • @griffith211
      @griffith211 4 месяца назад +1

      DL has Mx in HNL

    • @xbshot
      @xbshot 4 месяца назад

      DL does Hawaiians MX and vice versa. Thats the reason they diverted to HNL vs KOA.

    • @user-cs8ec6zy5m
      @user-cs8ec6zy5m 4 месяца назад

      @@xbshot ah that makes sense

  • @rdbchase
    @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +8

    Very weird miscommunication from DAL316 -- no mention of the emergency until over three minutes in; saying they they want to get the plane headed in the right direction (to Honolulu) when the plane was ostensibly bound for Salt Lake City without any indication that there was an emergency was bizarre.

    • @Jack-sy5wn
      @Jack-sy5wn 4 месяца назад +5

      Not really strange, in an emergency their taught, aviate, navigate and then communicate

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +4

      @@Jack-sy5wn "they're" -- sure it is; whoever is on the radio with ATC has several exchanges apparently motivated by a concern to land the plane in Hawaii, but fails to communicate that fact. "Aviate, navigate, communicate" does not serve to explain this evident miscommunication at all -- if they're calling ATC, they should be making sense.

    • @tristated9310
      @tristated9310 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@rdbchasewhat miscommunication are you referencing? Everything sounded like it was understood by both parties involved. Now just some random thought that may have entered the pilots thoughts.... hmm the cabin crew is reporting smelling smoke and fumes.... should we still be headed toward open ocean, or should we turn this airplane toward an airport while its (yes mispelled for your enjoyment) investigated?

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +4

      @@tristated9310 The pilots should have communicated their intention to land in Honolulu and disclosed the reason (when asked whether they needed assistance -- ATC needs to be trained to use the word "problem" when appropriate). A momentary pause in ascending shouldn't occasion a request to do so when dealing with a potential emergency.

    • @tristated9310
      @tristated9310 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@rdbchase Was the flight crew a bit cryptic about their intentions at first? Yes. Should ATC have interrogated the flight crew? No. ATC did exactly what was needed without interrupting. It is Aviate, Navigate, and Communicate in that order order for a reason. When the flight crew had all the information needed, they declared the emergency and made intentions known. What exactly do you see is the issue?

  • @atcdude067
    @atcdude067 4 месяца назад +16

    Why do the pilots have to be so secretive. “Can we get a heading towards HNL but we won’t tell you anything.”

    • @1Legofilms
      @1Legofilms 4 месяца назад +12

      Likely they knew they’re was an issue, but not enough details to share with ATC and for it to be helpful

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +3

      @@1Legofilms Delta 316 should have declared their intention to land at Honolulu immediately.

    • @andreea007
      @andreea007 4 месяца назад +7

      ​@@rdbchaseAccording to which regulation?

    • @rdbchase
      @rdbchase 4 месяца назад +6

      @@andreea007 I made no reference to regulations; I'm appealing to common sense, but it's in short supply.

    • @Mark-pp7jy
      @Mark-pp7jy 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@rdbchaseThank you, Inspector Clouseau! 🕵️

  • @bilyonarelifestile2226
    @bilyonarelifestile2226 4 месяца назад +1

    good it wasn’t that shitty controller that won’t help u

  • @08turboSS
    @08turboSS 4 месяца назад

    Its a boeing thing.