Who was the better defender; Carragher or Neville? | Craig Bellamy & Jamie Carragher | Twitter Q&A
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Jamie Carragher and Craig Bellamy answer your questions on Newcastle's future, the vacant Wales manager job and who the better defender was; Gary Neville or Carra?
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7:40 who was the better defender....
Utd fans say neville
Liverpool fans say Carragher
Honest people say Dejan Lovren
haha :)
hahaha!
hahahahahahahah oh i needed a pick me up today thank you hahahaha
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Lovren...... Better than Ramos
bellamy is such a sound man, always seems to know what he is talking about, love him for that 👌
Gets fired for bullying....
Sound lol
Why are you comparing a fullback to a centerback?
Exatly what i was thinking. And GN was really nothing special, it's not like he was Dani Alves or Lahm
he was very good though.. hate admitting it as a liverpool fan.. his crossing was good too
crossing and throw-in's. He used to get exposed a bit by Beckhams lack of tracking back more so when young ronaldo came in but Nev was solid for utd and England (as a player)
Better than any RB in your club's history.
Alex Adams I'd take ivanovic over him
Gary Neville obviously. He was world class in his prime
Hmm world class , not quite
World class 😂😂😂 even the man himself says he wasnt world class
Really! United had such a good team individual players looked better. Thought Phil was better, did a job at Everton as well
Who's the better player? Ryan Giggs & Michael Jordon
Always liked Bellamy. Pretty straightforward communication style. And was one of the best strikers in Europe for a while.
I wouldn't go as far as saying one of the best but he was epic to watch his pace was wicked and scored some good goals just didn't stay anywhere long enough to really sustain his legacy Liverpool City Newcastle and whoever else
I'm a fan but one of the best in Europe 😂😂😂
Both very solid, hard to compare
Different players, different positions. Gary a better right back, Carragher a better centre back. But I would say I would rather have Carra as my right back than Neville as my centre back . Gary was always a bit of a liability at centre back,
Neville
7:41 passed in this video before it actually got to the title of the video... Waste of time.
Aaron Clegg So you clicked on an 8 minute and expected an 8 minute discussion of Carra vs Neville? ...and you are talking about waste of time?
Qwerty Qwertyson well you know, that is the title of the video
MVP
One thing you have to give Bellers a lot of credit for; his football knowledge is second to none!
Carra was a cult hero @ Anfield because he was a Scouser and he played with his heart as a Liverpool fan would, even though as a kid he was an Evertonian. He did read the game well but his achilles heel was always pace meaning he couldn't defend high up the field he always had to defend deep. This allowed teams to play between the lines and push Liverpool back.
Neville for 10 years was the best right back in the PL and is the best right back the PL has seen. Like Carra he wasn't the quickest but he read the game brilliantly and had the knack of knowing when to defend and when to go forward and deliver his brilliant crosses.
Both of them were more than just players in that they were real team men and could give help and instruction to others around them.
Carra is just one of these unlucky people who scored more own goals than any other defender that springs to mind and also in that he never won The Title. Neville on the other hand was a lucky man. Winning numerous titles and being a part of more success than I'm sure he ever believed possible!!!
As pundits Neville started out as he did as a player, absolutely brilliant and tbf to Carra after a dodgy start he's improved now and found his confidence. From the outside it looks like he's watched Neville and learned from the way he presents.
People have to stop saying “Look at the difference in trophies between Neville and Carra”Neville played in much better United teams.
Fergie actually said Carragher was one of his rivals' players he most wanted to sign
Neville had a better England career than Carragher so your argument collapses in on itself
Neville regularly makes Premier League all time great sides picked by ex players whereas Carragher never gets a mention.
gary has probably been the best right back of the EPL, i can't think of anyone else that really stands out from that position
Edit: wrote this 2 years ago, imo now Trent is better
Sagna was pretty good at his best. Ivanovich was quite dominant for a time also.
ivanovic and zabaleta
Lee Dixon and Lauren ..
Gary was a average RB. Won alot but not a good player at all😂
Trent is great on the ball but can't defend
I'm united supporter and you can't answer that question. They both played in different positions
Different animals really. Carra was the better CB. Neville the better RB. Carra started at RB and wasn’t fantastic in all honesty. When he shifted to CB his qualities shone through. Nev was maybe the best RB in the league for a decade. Not as good as Denis Irwin though still excellent. From a Liverpool supporter.
Plastic Scally good to see someone with a sensible response, totally agree
I remember first being impressed watching him play a game at LB, was converted after that, excellent player. I wonder how different things would havce been for England had they gone 3-5-2 with Carra, Ferdinand and Terry at the back allowing Gerrard and Lampard to be supported by a Water Carrier.
@@arsenalfanrichi I always wonder why england never player 352. That formation would also allow scholes Gerrard and Lampard play in a midfield 3. Who will play wing backs though. Beckham could not be dropped because he was the captain.
I reckon Becks would have been capable of playing RWB, he had the stamina and technical ability. Maybe not the best defensively, though.
reckon he would be a bit of defensive liability but perhaps gerrard on the right of the midfield three could support him.
no problem with the left wingback position as Ashley Cole had that covered.
maybe switch to a 2 banks of four with
gerrard feridnand terry carra
becks, scholes, lamps, cole
when necessary
Gary was one of those player who aren't blessed with a lot of talent, but you didn't see mistakes in him, no holes between right centre back and his position. perfect position. Craig just summed it up tbh, reading of the game and the distance he took while maintaining the shape were his game. carra was typical English cb, tough, robust, threw his head where it hurts likes his sliding tackle BUT had mistakes in him just like Woodgate, upson, jones, smalling, shawcross etc .Carra is an bargain basement John Terry(had mistakes on him too), and a slightly superior version of lovren
Carragher is such a boss. My favourite pundit.
Listen to Ryan giggs and David ginola talk about lee dixon....makes you realise how good he was...
Two different positions. At RB Gary at CB Jamie. Simple.
As for honesty, leadership, commitment, bravery, it's Jamie all day. He would put his body on the line no matter what. Gary although a great RB he ducked a few headers in his time!
Overall Carra in my team over Neville every time.
Jamie so underrated. 1 of the best premier league defenders we've seen!
both great defenders, and both great pundits. hated neville as a player, top pundit though
Not saying which ones best, both were great players for the teams they played in but carragher is really under-rated..If you watched carragher every week u could see he was a top defender..brilliant player imo.
Garbage at best. Not even top in 1000 PL defenders. Im not saying top 1000 players, but defenders.
Probably about the same really. People will say Neville more often than not because he was probably the best RB in Premier League history. Problem with that logic is that there was little to no competition for him, whereas Carra at CB is in the shadow of Vidic, Ferdinand, Adams, Terry etc.
Also, state of people who use Premier League titles as an argument.
Carra without a doubt
Man there are so many Utd fans in the world is crazy
It’s close but I think one things for certain they should’ve both started for England at the time. I remember Carra her dropped to much
Pretty sure the reason Rush and Souness left was at least in part because of the ban from Europe that they got English clubs.
not a fair comparison..one is a rb and 1 is a cb..yes neville has won more trophies but its a dead question before u can even answer..they dont play the same position
Fair
G nev all day
Four years on and the Amanda Staveley led consortium now owns Newcastle. They were obviously working to do a deal for quite a while!
I'm shocked I thought he would have said Carragher due to being X Liverpool player
Bellamy knows the game and doesn't care about being pals. Neville was a right back, Carragher was both a centre back and full back. As a fullback Carragher doesn't even come close. He never got anywhere near starting for England, in either position.
English football didn't trust CDs under 6,1. Carrager studied his opponents meticulously and grew every year under benitez. At around 27 when lfc where a good champions league side many players in Europe were claiming Carrager was the best CD in Europe. Its hard to objectively argue at that at this point he was world class. You could perhaps say it was only for 3 YEARS. But I always admired players who became great through hard work. He really was brilliant in those years and should have had more caps maybe.
one was first team for his country and won countless trophies for his club, the other was behind Campbell, Terry, Ferdinand and King
Neville slightly better. Carragher more versatile.
I remember when City first got rich and Bellamy was one of their first big signing
Neville had more pace Euro 96 and World cup 98.
He was box to box engine.
Carragher wasn't a natural full back and didn't work the flank aswell as Neville could.
Ashley Cole was better full back than both of them alot more pace and the ability to take on and beat players.
Gary Neville was much better player than carragher ,carragher was an average player in an average team, Neville was a leader and a captain for one of the most successful premier League teams. The determination and the passion Gary had for that team was second to none. Memories of Neville not shaking schemichails hand in the tunnel against city, having a fight with Patrick veira and squeezing his hand and screaming in front of the Liverpool fans while kissing his badge all make the character he was
Neville. This debate is stupid he was by far the better player
Is it true he beat up John Arne Riise with a golf club when he was at Liverpool?
Oh my God Bellers actually says something nice about the club rather than his usual slagging of the fans, despite sir Bobby making his career! Something he chooses to forget time and time again
jamie carragher was top 10 at a push cbs in the prem in his time let alone all time he doesnt come close, most people put nev in there all time team, end of discussion.
Neville was the better Right Back, Carragher was the better Centre Back BUT Carragher could also play both positions/was more versatile than Neville.
You'd probably have to go back all the way to 66 before you found a better English Right Back than Gary Neville {It's not a position we've been particularly strong in over the years}.
Carragher wouldn't even make the Top 10 English Centre Backs in that same period as well as being behind G.Neville for the Right Back role.
So yeah - Carragher's a versatile sub but G.Neville is the #1 Choice for Right Back post George Cohen.
Ok' so This is a hard one 1.!!
I'd say that they are quite similar (Both play CB RB Both are Good captains , they give EVERYTHING for their clubs and "England"🦁🦁🦁 as an arsenal fan and with our defending at times 🐤 I'd take right NOW!!!
they'd know how to kick some ass and get that team playing to its potential.
CARAGER= 1O
NEVILLE = 10😅😅😅
Neville for physical attributes, Carr’s for reading of the game and both for wearing hearts of sleeves and putting in 100% every time!
This sentence honestly looks like you got the names mixed up.
What nope
@@brentmeistergeneral6074 Well as defenders, surely Carragher having 7 own goals and 6 penalties conceded versus Nevilles 2 own goals and one penalty conceded is a demonstration of who is reading the game better defensively. Carragher beats Neville in almost every aspect of physical defending such as blocks, tackles and interceptions..
What yes he does beat Nev in terms of blocks, tackles and interceptions because he read the game better. Neville was more physical ie he was fitter, faster and strong and could catch wingers and had the tank to run up and down the pitch all game, overlapping with Becks and co.
Carra was a better natural ball player and reader of the game and was always in the right place at the right time to make those interceptions, tackles etc. Own goals are just from being in right place at right time but making a mistake ie a mis-kick.
@@brentmeistergeneral6074 I don't know, thats VERY subjective what you're saying about own goals. Right place at right time is a key element of reading the game. But whatever, not going to go back and forth all day about it.
Question doesn't come up until 7:50 into this video (out of 8:43...). Skip to it to avoid hearing Craig Bellamy pitch for the Wales job while trying to convince you (badly) he isn't.
Neville was better in his position than carragher was in his.. Caps for England, trophy's at club level at every level. Both good players tho
Agreed but when you look at the other CB England had it is hardly surprising. JC was never at the same level as John Terry, Sol Campbell or Rio Ferdinand. G Nev’s competition at RB was Danny Mills.
Neville the better athlete Carra the better defender. Singlehandedly stopped a prime partnership of Shevchenko and Crespo. Intergalactic ratingssss !
Kieran Tierney.
They bang on about PL but the best 6 players in the world dont play in the PL
One was a better defender and the other was better offensively
They forgot to mention that probably only two or three British players are good enough for the big teams outside the premier league
Difficult to say. I think Jamie was more pivotal to Liverpool than Gary was to United.
But that could be because full backs weren’t as influential; to their teams like they are now.
And also could be because Liverpool weren’t as good as United, so Carra could stand out more than Gary could.
Saying that. Gary was astute and solid.
I’m taking Carra but Gary was solid.
Jamie is from another planet..what langguage he speak?
Bellamy drinks at the same pub as me he is a little dikhead
I can imagine that
Carragher ripping into Bellamy non stop
then BOOM.... Neville was better than you :)
8:18 you work your whole career for words like those from bellamy. genuine praise from a peer. and bellamy wasnt a shit striker he was one of the decent ones in his prime i recall. constantly troubling the top teams.
Carra was the better CB and Neville was the better RB. Simple as that. Carra didn't offer enough offensively to be a top full back (though he was good as a defensive FB in Houllier's team), whereas Neville would get twatted if he played at CB!
At the end of the day the only thing that matters is trophies
is this honestly a serious question?
anyone who seriously reckons its Carragher needs a severe throat punch, Carragher as a defender couldnt even come close to lacing Neville's boots let alone actually doing it
Whats next, who was the better striker?
Ruud Van Nistelrooy or Karl-Heinz Riedle?
Bellamy learned a new culture and language at Newcastle, no need to go abroad. 👍🏿
Bellamys a good pundit, seems to know his stuff.
Neville, easy. This is like asking, what's better, a Bugatti Veyron or a Ford Focus?
Neville would get bodied at CB so obviously Carra is the choice since he played BOTH.
Gary Neville all day long! He could defend and get forward and swing deadly crosses in too. But just look at his trophy cabinet compared to Scouse balls
Shaun Feeney scouse balls trophy cabinet ain't bad tho he has everything manc rat has except a few prem trophy's
Seb how do you know he is scouse, already making silly assumptions
clarky 237 8 prem leagues. 2 champions league 2 league cups and 2 fa cups! Carragher was a decent centre back just had heart
Shaun Feeney carraghers trophy's cabinet is hardly empty tho that's all I was saying
Seb be quite you fucking bellend
I'm a Liverpool fan, but Neville was ten times the defender Carragher was. Makes me laugh that the second highest own goal scorer in Prem history - highest in Liverpool's history - is rated as a legend - bellend more like. Even Pep Reina didn't rate him.
That said, had Rob Jones not had his injuries, Gary Neville wouldn't have had half the England caps he had.
From a Man United fan, I love Rafa Benitez. Its the same with Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool. I may not love the clubs, but they both have quality managers and both teams make the Premier League better. Benitez deserves to have an owner that gives him some freedom to buy some quality players and invest in the club. The fanbase and a club with great history is there already.
No Man United fan loves Benitez. That's just mental
Carragher a better centre back & Neville a better right back !! If they tell you anything else, they dont know football
How can you compare a treble winning player from Academy to someone who hasn't won the league in his life.
that's bad logic, the team won the league with UTD, not GN on his own. JC was always in worse teams with worse managers than UTD at the time. Personally though I do think GN shades, but even still JC was Liverpool's saviour many times
Shocking logic
Player to player. Some people can’t help what they’re surrounded by all their careers
Easily Neville , better player in a better team and a better pundit
lets ask two liverpool players whos better outta a liverpool and united play :/
Can't compare them! They didn't even play the same position
Look now in 2022 and you have had Jaden Sancho and Jude Bellingham to name a few who at a young age can go abroad and do really well at big club's,so even Bale had great success at Real Madrid despite what their stupid fan's think.The world today allows for younger player's who are generally English to go abroad and do well for whatever reason.
As a Newcastle fan, I've hated Craig Bellamy for his comments on the fans being delusional and all. But I guess he makes up for all that shit with his opening comments in this video.
Neville Better at rb carra better at cb
Carragher was never at the same level as Nev. England had some top class CB in that period but JC was never one of them. I’m a Chelsea fan so no favourites when it comes to these 2.
bellamy just saying what the wales job would do for him not what he could actually do
Neville, look at what each won
I'm a Leeds fan and have never liked Gary neville but why is even a question that comes up? Carra wasn't even in the same league.
Gary Neville was a England regular.Jamie barely made the squad at times.Also when people talk best prem team ever...Nevilles in 90% of everyone's,James not even mentioned.No point mentioning league because that's irrelevant as Man utds squads have been far superior in general (which I hate saying)
There's a flaw with your argument. The level of competition in their respective positions. Carragher was competing with Ferdinand, Terry, Campbell, Adams, Keown, King etc at international level, and Vidic, Stam, Kompany, Hyypia, Bruce, Pallister and Carvalho on top of that in the Premier League.
Neville was competing with who? Zabaleta? Lauren? Dixon? Richards? I mean, not exactly an even comparison here..
Flaw in is comment... not In the same league?? What have you been watching before both played in the premier league! Lol carra the 1 I'd have in my team
Because Neville had no competition, name one english right back in the mid 2000s who was good, u can’t. Carragher competed with terry, Ferdinand, Campbell, it was a lot harder for Jamie to get in the team
Paulo Ferreira was pretty good at that time, I thought anyways. Steve Finnan was a good full back too, although not near Neville, ofc.
+Lucy Wells damn you're dull witted. He means figuratively, as in Neville is way better, it's a metaphor, like the difference between players that are in different tiers of the English leagues.
JC
Neville obviously.
neville its not even close
Wow the Newcastle takeover talk is 4 years old!
Ok 👀
Gary 100% he could defend and cross carragher was decent but wouldn't of got into utds side plus he was just too slow
Why can't we just say that one was a great CB and the other was a great RB, they both have enough trophies to make a case for themselves. If they were both playing in the same position I'd understand the comparison but they aren't, you might as well be comparing Rio and Neville.
Neville.... Cause carragher scored more against Liverpool than for 😂😂
Gary Neville has a far better CV
8 prem title's champions league
fa cup Carling cup and could be another title imm not sure
Carragher is clear
Gary Neville is in everybody's all-time premier league side.
Giggs just ask his brother
It's not a job interview 😂 Carragher
All i can say is Rob Jones was the best right sided defender and had it not been for injuries, nobody would have took his England spot! His injuries cost England and Liverpool a great player!
"to get a new experience'' we all know its money hahahahaha its all about money
Neville was much better if people are honest. Look at there honours and even england caps 🧢
Plug Plugintons dude forget about what they've won, if that's the case then flipping Anderson is better than gerrard. Carra was the better defender.
Hate the new RUclips. I agree its not just about what theyve won. But its a factor. But neville could run all day and put a cross in the box not just defend, carra could do neither 😂 thats why he was overlooked for england really in the right back spot where as neville won over 80 caps! At one stage neville was in the top 3/4 right backs in the world. Carra never been top 10 either at cb of rb.
Plug Plugintons I think carra was massively underrated and Neville overrated. The thing that stands out for me is when neville's pace went he looked like a terrible player, his pace made him look better than he was. Just my opinion though.
Hate the new RUclips. I like both players to be honest on and off the field but if i had to pick personally id have taken neville by a long distance! Like u say everyone entitled to there opinion pal! 👌🏼
honours dont means one is better than the other, its a team game (by your reasoning the entire usa team were better than giggs because they played at a wc finals) . England caps are irrelevant, different positions. England didnt have any good full backs at the time. even fergie said he wished he had been able to get adams and carragher.
Carra
Gary Neville or Lahm
Lahm
wasn't carragher a master of the own goal? lol
Where did Bellamys neck go
Rude much
Fullback to a center half... why?. Nev was a great full back and he won far more than Jamie...far more..consistantly. Comparing is crazy.