@@BenLlywelyn Do you know this dance? Does it remind you of anything…? 🙂 I’m curious. Even if the commenter in this clip doesn’t mention it, it’s a dance performed also in Transylvania and Moldova, both sides, the Romanian side and the other half, the one the Ottomans gave it as a present to Russia. It’s such a shame the Morris dance has been perverted to the level it is right now in UK… What’s that “steampunk Morris dance” ?! 😱🙄 ruclips.net/video/g7QdQ8R5BUU/видео.htmlsi=2pk-w-f3vnBoOp19
All fiction.Kelt is a Hungarian word that have a meaning only in Hungarian language which has no connection to RomaNeJan.The very Vulture Helmets found in the area that are branded as Dacian by Romanian are simply meaningless in they late 19th century identity and state while it is connected to Hungarian Turul-Tarzan bird.
@@alexandrutomescu4146 We have our culture,traditions,history,lands…which is ours and not someone else unrelated to us. Hungarian pig breed is called ManGalica because Hungarians called themselves and are ManGaL from which the word MonGol derived in East which is why Gál is a common Hungarian surname just as Gálvölgyi meaning Gál valley which is another name for Árpádian basin….Romanians are simply a different group that introduded and post Trianon era have converted Hungarian people as they own due to mass forced conversions which where a standard procedure practiced by Orthodoxy in Ottoman empire against Hungarians and other Christian groups that resisted Ottoman invasion.
Many years ago after being in direct communication with a few Irish people I realised that Romanians and the Irish people understand each other a lot easier in spite of speaking different languages. Now, I can see way I had that feeling. Thank you for your hard and passionate work making light in history dark corners.
"Layer upon layer upon layer". That is so true, especially due to our location on the crossroads of major population movements. What makes us unique is our capacity to absorb and assimilate and integrate all these peoples. I learned in school many years ago about important Celtic influences in Romania, and we also had Germanic peoples pass through our lands. We are all mixed Europeans, even people on far away islands have layers upon layers of different ancestry.
@@BenLlywelynRomanian as a state and identity existed before late 19th century where they have no connection to Deutsch-Dutch-Dutchian-Dacians in any shape or form and Olah-Vlah-Vlaxi Romani-Romi-Rumi-Gypsie identity which they also claim as they own have no connection to them or Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian.
@@MAKDavid-1 Ah, you are one of those. Not the first, not the last but definitely at the bottom. Thanks for clarifying. You seem far dumber than you first appeared.🙄
Id really love to see a video on the Alans and their Romanian relations the Roxolani. Sobfar as i know the only Iranic people so far west. Ive read that ALAN the Red the Breton Lord that took a huge chunk of britain when he supported William the Conqueror was part Alan. Alan the Alan. He commanded archers who used the Alan style bow. So the english nobility has an iranic/alanic strain
Great video! Yes, the Bastarians are described by various sources as being Celts, Germans, Sarmatians, or Scythians, and the archaeological traces show a mix between all of them. Probably the Sarmatian/Scythian element appeared after they moved further east. It is possible that they were not the significant Celtic element in the area of Dacia. The Costoboci were probably a Dacian tribe because their culture as revealed by archeology was Dacian. Still being in the north, they could have an important Celtic influence.
@@BenLlywelynTudor is an regular first name in Romania. Almost never last name. We a national hero with this name, Tudor Vladimirescu who fought in 1821 for the independence....
Hi Ben, thank you for your work bringing all this interesting information! My husband mixed ancestry is predominantly Celtic, he wants me to mention to you the Romanian language meanings of word boi, boii plural and bou singular : castrated male cow, also dumb man. Word “ taur” means in Romanian male cow ( not castrated). Taur, Boii are before Latin language was created , make sense, people used them in their communication, before latin language! See Parta Neolithic Sanctuary, Bull-Cult. Romanian boy is “baiat” . Car/Caruta is also the same in Bulgarian language. Also I have to say that I don’t know all words in Romanian Language , I don’t know if we have another word for boii! Also appears that Latin language, a dead language today, is a polished educated form of older languages existed at that time, Latin language has its origins in older languages and unified them in one language for easier communication, vast Roman Empire needed a that time, possible? Because we don’t know the real origin we call it Latin origin !
Latin is close to Oscan and Umbrian. Those Italic languages were easily assimilated which gave them a base. Etruscan was heavily populated and slowly absorbed into Italian. Having most of the Italina penninsula - among the most populous areas of the world at the time, gave Latin the man power to expand further.
@@BenLlywelyn very good point, communication is very important in military. Also very good point in improvements Celts brought to Dacia. About Dacian language and the difficulties that Romans had to conquer, only small part of their territory, shows that they had a good communication language, otherwise Roman emperors should not have to go for three wars. Thy used, Solid Gold tablets to write on, which is well known the Dacian Gold, and lost today, normally, because gold always was big attraction. Boy in Romania, most common is baiat, etymology = unknown, barbat , man in English, is from Latin barbatus, barbos in Romanian or bearded in English. In Dacia men were bearded as in Trajan Column, very characteristic and very distinctive and different from Romans which are shaved clean. Barbat from Latin barbatus = barbos Romanian, with beard in English, and baiat is young man or child before beard age. Barbarian is the one with beard, not shaved, not clean shaved, has opinci on his feet, not sandals. And the head covered by Dacian caciula, cap. All still present today in Romania villages. I noticed that after Trajan, many emperors started having beard! As I see in their statues, maybe showing that beard is man ! Dacian were called by Romans Barbarians.
Very interesting. It makes sense that Latin grew out of the need for many different cultures to understand each other and the Romans. I have never heard that suggestion before, why hasn't some learned academic delved into that!
in 2018 in sicily i witnessed someone teacher a lesson on how Celtics were once in Transylvania long long ago. With Artefacts he dug up in Castel de Gandolfo
Very interesting and nice presentation, thanks! Many people ignore the important influence the Celtic tribes had upon Dacian culture. Were not Tauriscii a German tribe?
Romania has a city with the name Galați. This comes from Galatians, Celts. They emigrated into Turkey 🇹🇷 and have settled down in other cities called with Galitia like names. Apostle Paul writes to Galatians settled in Turkey 🇹🇷 . I find it very interesting too.
Galatians were not Celts. Read Strabo and Diodorus Siculus where both make clear that Celts are Iberians and southern French, while everyone else in Gaul and beyond in the continent are Galatians. Since the name of the city is Galati, and in Turkey Galatia, it is clear those who founded them were Galatians and not Celts.
This was their perspective in the 1st century BC . Obviously Celts started much earlier in the center of Europe form where they expanded towards West or South-West up to Iberia or British Isles , Ireland and East or South-East up to Asia Minor , Balkans and Peloponesus . As I remember , Celts where divided in at least 4 types and many tribes, according to the space they occupied . Galatians were just one Celtic tribe from southern France which migrated in the 3rd century BC up to Asia Minor. Along them were many others like Boi, Taurisci , Volcae. @@jboss1073
Romanian city of Galati has nothing to do with Celts . Origin of it's name is most probably ,Cuman from a Persian borrowed word meaning "fortress" . Celts never passed by Galati , where long time was just a swamp .
@@seaman5705 No, not a swamp, a lake called Brateș, Galați is a Danube port, the Danube is not a swamp. 😉 “The discovery of the treasure from Barboși , consisting of 3,700 silver coins with the Greek inscriptions Gallati and Kallatiasy , would tip the balance towards the theory supported by Vasile Pârvan and Carl Petsch , which is based on the name of the Roman province of Galatia in Asia Minor . Kallatiasy would rather bring with it Callatis ( Mangalia ), the Greek colony in Dobrogeawhich was the center of monetary issues. The same remark applies to the Roman province of Galatia in Asia Minor. However, the etymology of the toponym cannot be linked to monetary circulation[ citation needed ] . But the Christian missionaries who participated in the conversion to Christianity of the population of former Dacia left here. Thus, in the year 313, the emperor Constantine the Great established a vicariate led by the vicar Cocceius Galatus. A colony called Galati also came into being.[ citation needed ] The event is confirmed by a tombstone of a Roman citizen from Histria dating from AD 157. Another hypothesis, less plausible, is related to the name of the Gaulish Celts , who in antiquity would have passed through the area on their way to Galatia from Asia Minor. According to another hypothesis, the toponym Galați (together with the toponym Calafat ) represents an adaptation of the Turkish name on the Pecheneg or Cuman dialectal line of the Arabic word kala'at " fortress , fortress" [5] (compare the words kala , kale and kula " from contemporary Turkic languages ). Another hypothesis would be the Greek word γαλάζιο (galázio) "azure"; the founders of the settlement could have been original ancient Greek settlers from the colonies located in Dobrogea . Considering that the Galatians topic is quite widespread in Romania, the most plausible hypothesis is that of Ioan Bogdan. The common character of this name could only be formed on the basis of a Slavic-Romanian onomastic "Gal" to which the suffix "aț" was added, a form quite widespread in southern Slavs. The root "Gal" belongs to the Slavic word pool, having the meaning of "dirty" or "mud", which later underwent a semantic transformation, acquiring the meaning of "black". Thus, the adjective "Gal", through the suffix "aț" became a substantive. [6] Galatia is also known as Kalas in Turkish, Γαλατσι in Greek and גאלאץ in Hebrew.”
Listen, all the names in Romania and surroundings are Dacian origin and older. Even Druidism and herbs are Dacian signature. They taught Celts Druidism, metals and herbs. Let's never forget this. Prehistoric Dacia 1913, Nicolae Densușianu. A recognized peer review book.
The Geto-Dacian civilization had two major influences, doubled by invasions in the Iron Age: the Scythian one, and then the Celtic one. Another strong influence was the Greek one, which was manifested through trade and collaboration in construction, for example. This came indirectly, through the tribes south of the Danube or directly, through the Greek colonies on the Black Sea.
Geto-Dacian "civilization" is a stretch concept adopted late in last centuries by historians to define people thought to be alike , respectively Getae and Dacians . This is because late Roman historians , in the 1st and 2nd century BC said they were the same or related people . But there is no proof of any Dacian existence in the Carpathian Arc before the Celtic invasions (there were at least two) , nor earlier . Nor is there any evidence that Getae inhabited the space in the Carpathians . On the opposite, Getae were located in the south of Danube with some extension in north Danube valley and south of Dobrogea . Earlier , Agathyrsi , of Scythian/Sarmatian origin inhabited that land in the Carpathians since 7th century BC. They , together with the Celts, were a precursor of Dacian people . Dacians , even if we accept that were of Getic origin , were a late appearance - not earlier than 2nd century BC , and might have been a pretty mixed people of Thracian and Scythian origin . Note that west of the Dacians , in Pannonia , lived the Iazygess , also people of Sarmatian/Scythian origin , never conquered by the Romans . Ahh , and there was no Geto-Dacian "civilization" , but merely a culture, not better and not worse than that of their neighbors . Civilizations in Europe by that time were only the Greek and the Roman ones .
Populations do not appear out of the blue when they are mentioned in written sources but existed before. And not everything is limited to written sources. On the territory of Transylvania, there were several cultures specific to the Bronze Age, some of which were similar to some of the nearby zones, and others were specific: the Wietenberg Culture, the New Culture, the Basarabi Culture, and others. The Basarabi culture includes a good part of the areas later known as Geto-Dacian, and it can be a sign of the crystallization of this civilization. In the first part of the Iron Age, cultural homogeneity incincreasesn Transylvania, we have numerous archaeological evidence including fortifications, metallurgical workshops, large vessels and storage pits, vessels, with geometric patterns, The Scythian invasion took place around the 6th century BC and the Celts in the 4th century BC and both brought new technologies and cultural transformations
Basarabi culture has nothing to do with Dacians . Maybe they were ancestors of the Getae , not Dacians . What is sure is that Basarabi culture was an extension of the Hallstadt culture . Dacians were not a population until 2 century BC when some Getic tribe (or a mixture of Getic/Scythian warriors) , came to rule over the inhabitants of Carpathian Mountains . Those inhabitants were descendants of Agathyrsi and Celts , not Getae . Late Dacian culture from Carpathians was different from Getae culture from around Danube . Take a look at this , to understand how the Dacians came to be . Romanian historiography is really bullshit when it comes to Dacians - and I am a Romanian . Everybody stretches things because somebody said that Getae and Dacians spoke the same language - unproved because none left any written documents or inscription . But while the Getae have a history , being part of the Thracians (who did not talk same language btw) , the Dacians do not have much of history mentioned by anybody or anything . ruclips.net/video/pX8xD9N5l90/видео.html @@tudorm6838
Boi in Romanian means oxen. Boier which is similar to oier (shepherds of sheep) means a member of the aristocracy, wealthy members of society which seems to imply they had important herds of oxen.
Judging by the Dacian faces in Roman sculptures (Trajan's column, Arch of Constantine etc.), that physiognomy is rarely found today in Romania. It looks kind of Nordic but not Germanic, Celtic or Slavic, it was its own thing. Truly remarkable biological specimens. It's probably why the Romans chose to portray them so often in their art. Same as hunters hanging bison heads on their walls.
We are so connected to one another. The more I study history the more I realize that. I feel somehow lucky living in present day Romania , a crossroad of different migrations that shaped us, for good or for bad, in the people we are today. We have a piece of everything.
Great videoclip. I have a question: Was the wolf the symbol of Celts then borrowed by Dacians? Because many Romanian historians argue that the wolf symbol came from Dacians and Getae. Please, clarify. Thank you.
@@mihaiilie8808 Dacians are not Celtic culture. That is the Dacopatia ideology that you are preaching. Borrowed some traditions from Celtic and the mintage of coins in silver metal.
@@octavianciutacu6162 dacians borrowed from celts for thousands of years because celts been ( through their migration) in romania for thousands of years. We find celtic artifacts from 4000BC,3000BC,2000Bc and so on, on whole territory of Romania. Dacians are celts!
Costoboci were not Celts, but one of the main Dacian tribes, at least that's what we were told in school. And Wikipedia seems to state the same. They kept their independence from the Roman Empire and were part of the Free Dacian tribes that weren't conquered.
@@rickmccann4016 Romanians have no significant Turkic admixture, as can be seen from all DNA studies. Some loanwoards into Romania, yes. So , on what scientific study do you base your claim?
You could take a Romanian and put him in Sicily and he would fit right in, but put him in Northern Italy and he would stick out. People dont like to discuss this to be nice but they know it, ask any Northern Italian. They certainly dont look like Jooish Sylvester Stallone.@@mimisor66
Romanians and Serbians have the Turkic admixtures to an extent, not every single one. I was watching early Romanian traditions on Romanian TV the other day and all of these Romanians could easily fit into Moldova and Ukraine, none looked like they could be working in a Doner Kebab shop (sorry but its true). You can see it with your eyes.@@mimisor66
Im a Romanian from Bacau Moldova and i want to thanks you for such an informative video and for all the research you do. I did a DNA test that says i am mostly related to Celts and Scythians.... but nothing about Dacians lol.
Any archeologist who dug east Hallstatt would tell you that the late Bronze early Iron Age was Thracian culture, Then from early Iron into La Tene, the Gava culture was Dacian. Dacian Gava culture also used cremation before the expand of La Tene. Dacian culture from mid Danube east Pannonia and Transylvania was slowly taken over during La Tene, but was not an ethnic shift in this region but a rather Celtic elite rule during La Tene.
@@BenLlywelyn Obviously the La Tene west Dacians were a Thracian Celtic mix, but at least some of the west Dacian tribes spoke something similar not to Gallic but to 'Romance' Galician. Also necessary to consider that east, central and west Celts came under different influences or incorporated different ethnicities in time. So a 1000 years apart Celt from Spain or Ireland could be quite different already from Balkan Scordisci or Gallic speakers from Anatolian Galitia. For the simple that these groups quite often did not form alliances just on ethnic or linguistic grounds and their alliances were tribes of different ethnicities. The ruling elite carried along different ethnic groups, who used to fight for them and live along. Over centuries they intermingled and formed rather new ethnicities. Based on the prevailing majorities. For example the Gallic tribes who crossed into Anatolia lived in south Romania today for quite a long time along Getae tribes. When they moved out in the 2nd century were certainly a quite different ethnic group than when they came in the 4th century BC. Another relevant example could be the Visigoths who sacked Rome and settled in Spain. If historical sources tell us that in 200 years in and around the Carpathians they lived along Getae and Dacians and their kings called themselves Rex Godhorum Dacorum Getorum et Hispaniae, would think that the majority still spoke Gothic, were still Goths. Well the genetics bring a different reality to light on them and we find out that the real Goths were not more than 5-10% of the whole Visigoth pack that conquered and ruled Spain for 300 years. Some early Spanish authors tell us that their ancestors were the GETAE, but who would believe them.. Most would still prefer to believe that they confuse the Getae with Goths. Genetics show a completely different perspective and tell that the 5-7 century Visigoths had very low Scandinavia I1 and were mostly 3rd-4th century Carpathian genes of I2a1, R1a or J2b. Knowing this can only realize that these could only be a majority of Getae and Balkan genes, carried along by the Gothic elite. Same with the Celts, from a genetics perspective, despite the strong culturally Celtic and Germanic influence in Transylvania, the Celtic and Germanic genes are surprisingly low, not more than 3% combined.. Only the less initiated would still consider any L23 as Celtic and not know that the Z2103/05 remained in the Carpathians and turned south and east. R-L23 Z2103/2105 found high in the mountainous parts of Transylvania, like in the north Maramures and central Apuseni mountains, former Dacian strongholds, separated from the R1b Celtic and Germanic types like L51, about 7-8000 years ago.. So it is about typically Indo European language carriers R-L23, but few 1000 years apart from the Proto Celts. They obviously separated at lower Danube or around the Carpathians, , when the L51 advanced west on Danube then spread sides to form the Proto Celtic and Germanic people, while the Z2103/05 coincided with the Thracian or rather Getae expand, which name was much older and had a broader cover than the included Thracians. From the Carpathian lower Danube eastern L23 went down into the Balkans, then during Bronze age crossed into Anatolia and south Caucaus, having a strong influence in north west Antolia, in south Caucasus and south east Caspian. No coincidence that all these areas appear populated by the Getae, Moesians, Thracians, Mysian, Pellaics, Daos-Daoi-Dacians, Getaru and Masa Getae people. So go figure what is the relation between the Dacians and the Celts or why part of the early Iron Italic people originated in late bronze east Pannonia could have been related to the Thracians, while some central south Italic peninsula tribes originated in early Iron age south Balkans could be related or plainly Pellaic Getae. These are necessary to know in order to understand the relation between the real relation between Daco - Romanians, Latin speakers and the so called Romance languages before shouting Latin to a 20-30% Latin derived - 80% Latin related language.
@@Sofia-0001 The dacians are celts, the thracians are the oldest celts and the visigoths obviously, are the dacians, thus celts. Visigoths coulture is celt, theh grew vineyards as you can see on Pietroasele treasure. The visigoths spoke vulgar latin like any celt and the gothic was used by Ulfillas to write the bible to convert the germanics. Visigoths are no more than christian missionaries. Gepids are same as visigoths just slower( iordanes says this), exactly like the romanians from transilvania. Gepid is an offence for being slow people. Even the roman are celts, the etruscans are celts and the trojans are celts.
@@mihaiilie8808 lol Go tell this to some noobies in history, archeology, linguistics, genetics. Baaed on what you just said you have no clue of any of these.
@@Sofia-0001 your not even sure if the visigoths are dacians, let alone to speak about celts. Celts are vulgar latin speakers, with funeral mounds and incineration. They are the oldest europeans that build Gobekli Tepe and Stonehenge and Plovdiv. Im a celt visigoth, romanian. Alaric,Athanaric,names ending in ric, are celtic. Growing vineyards is celtic and the dacians are celts, vulgar latin speakers.
@@BenLlywelyn you seem to be what they call a "Black Irish", coming through the Iberian megalitic connection. I would be interested in your paleogenetic makeup. I am related to the Chedar Man meself.
Brancusi sculptures and his way of life ,enjoying to live an ascetic way of life altough rich.He was from Oltenia region . I think he is of celtic origin and his art is inspired from the celtic romanian art. He is the best sculptor since rennaisance,the teacher of Modigliani ,Issamu Noguchi and the father of modern sculpture.
@@BenLlywelyn Timisoara is a nice city but people there have an inferiority complex ,just like people from Cluj . It is small things like Timisoara had the first electric street lighting, that makes them feel superior in a similar way to the cechens that feel superior because they say the etruscans came from Cechnia 😂. Better visit Targu Jiu,Sibiu and the Danube . Craiova its the heart of Oltenia and most celt but i wouldnt reccomend altough i have verry good and smart friends from there. Timisoara isnt anything celtic related ,more of Austro Hungary influence .In Oltenia on they eat leek like crazy even in the summer so thats the most celt place with toponims.
@@youngshatterhand810 Not Rodin but Brancusi is the father of modern sculpture, because Brancusi sued USA that didn't recognized his sculpture as an art work( the customs toght it was a type of tool). The Brancusi won the process and from then people understand that sculptures can be made very different than the classical forms also. Rodin is quite classical. Brancusi worked a little with Rodin, he said he was making a sculpture a day but he didn't liked. So he worked much more to make his modern sculptures wich he says are the essence of the shape wich you can see, are very different than Rodins works. Brancusi far exceeds Rodin also through his students wich are Modigliani ( he was a painter also) and Isamu Noguchi. Rodin is good, but Brancusi it's like an alien, the only modern sculptor comparable to the ancient sculptors and the ones from rennaisance.
I am a descendant of Celtic Dacians from Alba district, having genetic fragments commun with people from UK and Sicily, according to 23andme I have thousands of distant cousins with British roots while non of us emigrated to Transylvania from those countries. I find it very interesting. This makes me understand why my grandma that never spoke English, used English words as regionalism as it is called in Romania. Even Yes which is the Slavic Da, Alba mountain people don't have in vocabulary. They say Ye instead. They are also more green eyed and fair skinned than average Romanians. It all makes sense now.
In Welsh there’s no word for ‘yes’ either. At least, didn’t used to be until we adopted ‘ie’ because we would just answer I the positive (did you? > I did!, are you…? I am…!, etc.)
But British people were never Celts, that is a Romanticist mythology that Victorians invented for themselves to tie their ancestry to Japheth in the Bible. It is complete pseudo-science and no academic today defends that any Brits, Irish or Scottish were ever Celtic. They were and forever will be Britannic - yes even the Irish, as Britannia Minor was also the name for Hibernia.
@@Inquisitor_Vex Either engage in the conversation or don't. Don't be half in, half out. If it's too much for your level, it's okay to stand out this time.
@@jboss1073 we have had this conversation before but maybe you can elaborate on your ludicrous theory for the benefit of others reading. If you’re so confident in your evidence, you should have no problem with this.
12:35 "corn" is horn also in Romanian. I wonder what the Latin word is for it. 14:41 "boii" is literally oxen in Romanian, and "taur" is bull in Romanian.
Hey there Ben, I would like to tell you that I find your videos very entertaining, but sometimes very irritating. What qualifications do you have on history of former Dacia present Romania? Also, I’d like to know about yourself, are you pure Welsh or are you somewhat Romanian because you seem to be very obsessed with the Romania which is kind of cool I’m just wondering . I find it very interesting that you found links between the Welsh and the Dacians. Also, you should look at the Welsh dragon origins on the Welsh flag and look at the dragon that used to be on the Dacian flag(Dragon). Also, are you aware that they migrated towards northern Europe through today’s Switzerland onto the northern sea, Scandinavia then ended up in Ireland and then finally in Wells? The Dacian language has not disappeared. It just evolved and by evolving I mean, it adopted a lot more words from neighbouring countries, and it developed more than English will ever be developed. Romanian, which is former Dacian, has developed a lot and is a very complex language, it has been around for at least 8000 years . I find your work very interesting and I would really love to know what fuels you to study Romania and other countries in Europe. Also if you could tell me more about your background would be very cool regardless of origins actually I find everyone interesting and love just about everybody doesn’t matter where they are from And love talking to them. I hope You get back to me and thanks for your videos .
See my video on why Dacian is not Romanian. As for why, I like this stuff so I make stuff about it. I like how layered Europe is and am proud of our Western Liberalism, our faith foundations and cultutal legacy - is a light to the world millions want to be nearer to, willing to cross oceans to reach us.
Were the dacians blood linked to the thracians? Were the latins and the other non - celtic tribes of ancient Italy linked to the Thracians? I would like to know your point of view about the matter. Weren't the Boii present also in northen Italy when Rome was just a village in Latium? Thank you. Your videos are always very interesting.
Here is a video on Boii with a bit of Italia. ruclips.net/video/in5dhLHPzno/видео.html As for blood, we are all on the same continent, so it is all mixed up
@@BenLlywelyn Absolutely. Our myths show we are intermingled. Some animals like "the wolf" are part of our myths: celtic, latin-roman and dacian ones. Good night.
@@BenLlywelyn”””Oxen” in Romanian (plural) = boi, articulated boii, singular bou “Bull” in Romanian (singular)= taur, articulated taurul, plural tauri/taurii
The Dacians were historically linked to the Thracians according to the ancient historian. The archeological discoveries indicate that they were very close. But culturally shockingly different and not because of the Greek influences. In the comments is reminded that the northern Italy tribe of the Veneto have been in contact with the Dacians long before the expansion of the Roman Empire (under a Celtic influence) and this biological and cultural contamination may explain something about the mistery of the Latin - Dacian language relationships.
Hi Ben!As a Romanian living in the UK,at a certain moment I was interested in Welsh language.I bought a dictionary and I found lots of Romanian-Welsh common roots of many words.
Very nice content! Here is more about Boii and Taurisci: (1) The name of the Bavarians comes from them; (2) The Flag and Coat of Arms of Medieval Moldova is a Bull - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavia and this is included in the current Coat of Arms of Romania en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Romania. BTW, between the Dacians and the Germans there was basically a linguistic and ethnic continuum (basically, the same thing); Then, of course, the Germans and the Celts mixed everywhere in Europe.
Fable has it in Romania that the region of Maramures in NW Transylvania has the purest population containing more elements of Dacian identity than other areas or Romania. That is of course a joke. But it does have many commonalities with the still existing Celts - at that time - in those parts of Europe. Compare the Irish and Scottish folk music with that of Maramures ... and the coloration of the indigenous people.
My comment is restricted to "Maramures" in Hungarian it was called "Máramarossziget". During the Austro - Hungarian Monarchy it was completely Hungarian populated city, today we still have a 5,000 membership. Just look at some of the buildings they were all built in Hungarian times.
The only country to have a surname exactly like Boudicca is Romania That surname is Budica ( Sounds different from McTavish, McKenzie, McLean) And if it's Boudicea, there's also Budacea in Romanian along with towns named Bucecea, Calacea, Isaccea etc There are other Romanian/ Celtic similar surnames Glad/ Glad Boier/ Boyer Tudor/ Tudor Toader/Toader ( like Welsh) Filimon/ Filmon Nistor/ Nestor Dolan, Dolanescu ( Ion Dolanescu,the singer)/ Dolan Hogea,Hoga,Hogas/ Hogan Hanganu/ Hangan Hagan, Haganu/ Hagan Diaconu/ Deacon Micle, Miclea ( Veronica Micle)/ Scottish Mickle The "Forbears society" does a good job showing origin and distribution of surnames.
@@BenLlywelyn The neighbors say Todor Todorov Todorovici .. Guess what There's also Toader and Teodor in Romanian similar to Welsh you just said All these similarities show that we had a important connection The trolls south of Danube or west of Romania's border will always argue.
@@BenLlywelyn you mentioned Vasile Parvan I think he was the first. But unfortunately he died too soon (he was only 45 years old) and left so much undone. After his death only Nicolae Iorga spoke about the cultural continuum from Black Sea to Atlantic. Almost all romanian historians saw (and are seeing now) the work of Mr. Vasile Parvan an "exaggeration" and therefore not entirely true.... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasile_P%C3%A2rvan See please here "In order to solve the problems related to the history of Dacia, he organized a series of systematic excavations, especially in the archeological resorts from the second Iron Age. Based on the partial results of the excavations, Getica (1926) wrote - his most important work - a vast historical-archaeological synthesis, through which he brought to the forefront of historical research the political and cultural role of the Dacians; some shortcomings and exaggerations (including the emphasis on the role of the Scythians and Celts in the development of Geto-Dacian culture) do not detract from the value of this work.[9"
The Celts also went up the Dnieper, the Dniester and the Don (notice any similarities?) and the Dacians didnt name them the Celts did. In fact Odessa used to be where Varna is today and Odessa was called Tyrus and oddly enough it was a Phoenician port right where Bilhorod is today. They want us to think it was "ancient Greeks". I wonder why.
European rivers are in Alteuropäeisch, not Celtic. There is no evidence for "The Celts also went up the Dnieper, the Dniester and the Don" nor for "the Dacians didnt name them the Celts did". Alteuropäeisch speakers were very likely the EEF people.
@@jboss1073Kelt is a Hungarian word and when we look at archeo-genetic fact like the Scythian Hun-Han meaning Royal Scythian or Turul-Turan bird being the same as AnZu bird and being the root word for Annya meaning Mother which root word An is the root word for Yan-Jan-Han-Can-Ban-Dan your claim falls apart since there is a clear thousands yeas old genetic and cultural continuity which can clearly be seen from Bronze Age in a large are. Not even Romans called themselves Jewropean since that identity is a late insert like the Romanian identity and state that has no factual basis whom have no connection to Deutsch-Dutch-Dutchian-Dacian .
Roxin says we have more than 5000 burial mounds and only 1% are explored. Those burial mounds are celtic and so does the etruscans are because they have same mounds. If you visit a few such burial mounds you will see paintings exactly like the etruscans have but no script found iet ( because our burial mounds are older than etruscan when there wasn't writing). In the future I expect we will find more information from these burial mounds. The thing is our state doesn't want us to find writings because our official statement is that Romanian language comes from Latin. That would change the history,we would have to change our national anthem probably.
The Romanian state is not trying to hide the Romanian Lamguage - they are trying to protecr the Romanian people from Dacapat lunatics who would spur extreme forms of ethno-nationalism which would lead to innocent people being harmed by purists.
A very nice way to say that from Transylvania to Wales and even further east all Europeans are, a bit at least, related.And yes, the Dacians had very Celtic style weapons.
Celt is a term like meaning old european. Celts didn't migrate and passed through Dacia because if that happened means they migrated here for thousands of years since the beginning of celts.
Celt is not simply Old European. The Celts of antiquity were fully aware they were in an European world alongside other cultures - Dacian, Germanic, Etruscan, Greek, Lusitanian, Carthaginian, Latin, Baltic. All of those peoples traded with Celt for goods.
@@BenLlywelyn You need to get a metal detector and search for the celts in Romania. Celts are here since thousands of years, they didn't migrated and they were a huge ethnicity made of various tribes and even countries. Italians explain it the best, at the edge of the Roman empire are celts and then further north there are the germanics. Dacia is whole and the oldest celt, Scithians are also celtic and so the whole Europe. Even the Roman's and etruscans are celt heritage.
The thing is that although you explained that the Dacians weren't in great numbers at the Celtic arival, The Agatharsyi were the local Schythian-Getae pepole that lived there and actualy influecend the celts way more than the Vice versa, at least in terms of religion. Another bizare fact is that some wikipedia pages show that the Proto Celts are coming from the Tharcian Danube part acording to Gaelic folk like stories from Ireland. Could you please tell me if they are faking it?
Proto-Celtic and Iron Age P-Celtic would have been 2000 years apart. Indo-Europeans came up the Danube (some of them) and then split off. But thre time period we are looking at in that is so vast (4,500 bce to the 1st century) whole languages came and went that we do not even know about, and pre-Indo European languages existed in large pockets earlier on.
The celtic people seems to be more as a nomad population, based on the cities, same as the later jews or german jews, the saxons in Transilvania, and being very good în crafts ( coins producție îs a prove of this) . The mountains and the river valleys were populated by the ancestral population from the Cucuteni and others cultures, pushed în the mountains by the newer agresiv indoeuropeans (the russian, Ukrainean and Bulgarian historians are calling them Thracians even if this îs a Greek name of them, but pretending to be a slavic culture even if everyone know that 1500 years ago all the slavic peoples were based to the North-East of Kiev) . This is something which the historians was all ready wrote about.
@@ionelghiorghita688The celts are the Vinca Turdas coulture and they were mostly miners looking for metals and coal and migrating from one mountain to another. They are as old as a coulture as the cucuteni from the stone age and they were mining with stone tools .Celt means a stone made type of chisel/ hammer used for mining. Valea Jiului its their native land and they do mining like in Wales.
The Celts is a sea of Dacians ideas, not the other way around. And all Europe and World. The Dacian discovered everything in basic thing in society. Dacian calendar goes back 60k years. Investigate more. Even your Celt gods, architecture and armor, is Dacian origin. History was changed. Because Dacia was the gratest country in the world. Celts stole big time in Dacian culture. Big time.
You cant say celts stole dacian coulture. They are dacian and thracian coulture. In fact these celts are thousands of years older than the name dacian or the name celt. Simply put, they are the coulture that emerged from under the Black Sea when it was flooded 12000 years ago. Trachian is the best suited name, better than dacian and even getae. Celts is apropiate to call them later when they mixed with indoeuropeans Yamnaya, wich adopted the thracian way of life and language( they converted from religjon with burial to religion with incineration).
The funerals whithout fire rites are all celtic for the same period its ok,the great Migration of the Celtic people was to avoid the Roman Empire mainly in Central Europe,the escape to the East whith the Delphi Assault tru Brennus then the new Lands in Asia Minor where they where invited. Hope that the celts adopted the dacogetian Falx,Rhompaia and Sica for heavy duty weapons.
@@BenLlywelyn You dont understand,the northen colonization of Italy by the Celts was stoped by the Romans as they where small,ts not about the Gaul Conquest .
In modern Romanian we still use terms like Bour(pl. Bouri), Bou(pl. Boi) to reffer to the European bison(Bour),particularly the breed that used to live in Moldova and is on the Moldavian coat of arms, and oxen(Bou). Very interesting. Another term we use for the European bison is "Zimbru" which is thought to be of Dacian origin, but nobody truly knows for sure. It's so interesting to me how cultures that seem so far apart in the modern day(due to geography) influenced eachother so much in antiquity!
Apart from Prehistoric Dacia book, the world cares little about the cradle of civilization, being Romania, Dacia, Atlantis, where the Titans came from really, and egypt culture and pyramids. The highest pyramid is Țurțudui in Romania 300 plus meters high. Dated the highest and the oldest, 28k years aprox. or more.
@BenLlywelyn Interesting the " pentru ca" expression. I bet you added it after " Multumesc" for a strong reason and not because you just didn't know exactly what you wrote in Romanian.
Hi! I live in Hateg area and i know at least two burial mounds, a few km from Sarmizegetusa Ulpia Traiana, unsearched until now. i always wonder how this tumuls appear in the middle of the field, it looks to me totaly unnatural, more likely man made. I thought it might be celtic...
Romanian Ardeal derves from Latin "Arduus"( high)+ deal( hill) a reference to the high Transilvanian plateau and is cognate with a whole army of Indo European toponyms like Ardennes forests in Belgium, a vast area of forested hills, Ardal,Ardel and Ardelle names meaning high valour, Aird city in Ireland, Airdrie in Canada ( high pasture) in Scottish Gaelic, Ardauli city in Sardinia ( descend from a hill) and others. Erdely "erde"( wood)+ ly is just a made up word and the following example strongly supports it. When the British came to America they've heard the native Algonquin calling a rodent "Wuchak" and that matches the current name of this animal "wood chuck" Romanian can go ahead and claim that Custer mountains in USA derives from Romanian Custura ( sharp edge, ridge), isn't it? Nope.
Siroaie (when is raining) The Goat 🐐 Christmas custom is Celtic tradition. Burebista took the power in that territory obviously Celt went nowhere 😂. Haggis is Caltabos, branza iute is like Blue Sirloin chese. Scottish kilts the geometry and models are quite similar with the traditional textiles here. People from Transilvania have a different temperament than people from Moldova and moreover from Vallahia. Later on Vandals come,Gots etc. By the end of Roman occupation just the one's defeated by Gepids were the last Romans left in Dacia. The Daces were the warior cast that were dominant. We don't know how majoritan were. Ben if you wouldn't speak English I would say that you look like us. We don't know either who where the Roxolans and all tribes that helped Decebal through first victory against Romans. However makes sense that during the second war Decebal been left alone and betrayed. I'm wonder why? Not all Daces wanted the war against the Romans. Current Romanian language Dacian, Celtic (Welsh substrate) formed during the period when Constantine began his expansion. We could talk about the second colonisation of Dacia after Vandals were defeated because we're taking about a second population this time from Germanic origins ( so called Nemtii - Neamtz -Piatra Neamt (Stone of Germans same as Wutan God)-Targu Neamt. As well Mountain Chicken from Maramures come from Celts and their traditions. Romanian language was something imposed as language of the Church imposed to a literally a bunch of different tribes and nations which didn't really had much in common between. Interesting that the intonation of Romanian accent in Transilvania is kind of different than the one from Moldova but completely sounds like a different language compared to Vallahia,Banat,Muntenia. It was like English spoken by other people nowadays 😂
So youre saying Celts went from Asia Minor to Iberia to Britain and then back down the Danube to Romania to be with the Dacians before or around 600 bc? I was sitting by the Danube river just today and I watched an empty coke plastic container floating up the river not the other way around, A north wind was blowing and even a plastic container was making it up the Danube. They had sails! At some point these same Celts had to go back up the river or did they disappear? I dont see this multi cultural Dacian people as you do when they are an Indo European people. I think you have them mixed up with todays multi cultural Romanians who are a mixture of the Ottoman invasions,
No. Some Celts went to.Romania. And some Sicilians went to New York. Better if we did not use the word Celt at all. Some Boii went. Some Gauls went. Some Taurisci went. The Silures did not. The Parisii did not. Etc.
And as far as Indians go, I would be willing to bet if you stood an Indian up with a Romanian today you wouldnt be able to tell the difference.@@BenLlywelyn
Before the arrival of the Celts, were the Dacian lands somehow devoid of indigenous population? as the Hungarians also say, when we came here, there was no one...😂😂😂
The Dacian thing is a term to refer to the population of present day Romania for easy discrimination this thing whit what was and what will be is shit.
@@BenLlywelyn It is not that unique, very war-like people, high diversity,very unruly people, mafia mentality. Simply put, it is very normal for a place between different cultures (central Europe, Eastern Europe, Southern Europe). And yes, the Dacian thing includes way too many layers.
In those days, borders and politics were more difficult to maintain, instead what made the difference was the language, Micheal Ledwith (Pope John Paul's adviser) said that the Latin language is a Romanian language (the current territory) not the other way around. Where were Remus and Romulus from or Trajan etc
@@BenLlywelynthank you Ben! Again a very interesting subject! And you are getting more and more understanding of these origins, and mystery of unity of Romanians, how they been able to keep the language after so many influences from different populations , and how is possible to be so close to Latin, even more than Italian! What is interesting for me is word “car” , which some say is Celtic, and is so dip in our culture , that one can not say : what is more Romanian than “car cu boi “. And the question : why Romans curved so impressive statues of Dacian men in expensive porphyry and placed them in important places? And Constantine the Great put them on top of his Arch? Why are so many statues of Dacian man in Italy and none in Romania? Some said they are not Dacian, but they are the same as Dacian are on Trajan Column. So there are many questions!
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Ben,Romania even today is very Celtic, look at cemeteries and you will see a lot of Celtic Crosses.
Cemeteries never lie 😂🍺👍
Thank you you’re awesome …I love when you are talking about Romania and connection with Celts -Irish and so on,God Bless us all!
Such unique content! You're very good at creating images with words 👏🏻 Thank you, I can't wait for more!
Thank very much.
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Do you know this dance?
Does it remind you of anything…? 🙂
I’m curious.
Even if the commenter in this clip doesn’t mention it, it’s a dance performed
also in Transylvania and Moldova, both sides, the Romanian side and the other half, the one the Ottomans gave it as a present to Russia.
It’s such a shame the Morris dance has been perverted to the level it is right now in UK…
What’s that “steampunk Morris dance” ?! 😱🙄
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All fiction.Kelt is a Hungarian word that have a meaning only in Hungarian language which has no connection to RomaNeJan.The very Vulture Helmets found in the area that are branded as Dacian by Romanian are simply meaningless in they late 19th century identity and state while it is connected to Hungarian Turul-Tarzan bird.
@@MAKDavid-1 A crow.Hungarian fabulation.
@@alexandrutomescu4146 We have our culture,traditions,history,lands…which is ours and not someone else unrelated to us.
Hungarian pig breed is called ManGalica because Hungarians called themselves and are ManGaL from which the word MonGol derived in East which is why Gál is a common Hungarian surname just as Gálvölgyi meaning Gál valley which is another name for Árpádian basin….Romanians are simply a different group that introduded and post Trianon era have converted Hungarian people as they own due to mass forced conversions which where a standard procedure practiced by Orthodoxy in Ottoman empire against Hungarians and other Christian groups that resisted Ottoman invasion.
Many years ago after being in direct communication with a few Irish people I realised that Romanians and the Irish people understand each other a lot easier in spite of speaking different languages. Now, I can see way I had that feeling.
Thank you for your hard and passionate work making light in history dark corners.
You are welcome.
Totally agree! Greetings and good luck from Romania!
Fascinating history. Well done again Llywelyn.
Glad to see you back.
"Layer upon layer upon layer". That is so true, especially due to our location on the crossroads of major population movements. What makes us unique is our capacity to absorb and assimilate and integrate all these peoples. I learned in school many years ago about important Celtic influences in Romania, and we also had Germanic peoples pass through our lands. We are all mixed Europeans, even people on far away islands have layers upon layers of different ancestry.
Yes, in various quantities and blends, other cultures can if not overwhelming, enrich a culture deeply.
Not forgetting the Scyths, Sarmartians, Avar, Cuman, and several others. It's all in the faces one sees in the streets.
@@BenLlywelynRomanian as a state and identity existed before late 19th century where they have no connection to Deutsch-Dutch-Dutchian-Dacians in any shape or form and Olah-Vlah-Vlaxi Romani-Romi-Rumi-Gypsie identity which they also claim as they own have no connection to them or Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian.
@@MAKDavid-1 Ah, you are one of those.
Not the first, not the last but definitely at the bottom.
Thanks for clarifying.
You seem far dumber than you first appeared.🙄
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Ate you David Makai or something from Quora?
In romanian Boii is plurar to bou witch means "ox" and Taur (from Taurisci) means "bull" in romanian.
Id really love to see a video on the Alans and their Romanian relations the Roxolani. Sobfar as i know the only Iranic people so far west.
Ive read that ALAN the Red the Breton Lord that took a huge chunk of britain when he supported William the Conqueror was part Alan. Alan the Alan. He commanded archers who used the Alan style bow. So the english nobility has an iranic/alanic strain
Romania is one of the coolest places I've ever been. I haven't been that many places though
Great video!
Yes, the Bastarians are described by various sources as being Celts, Germans, Sarmatians, or Scythians, and the archaeological traces show a mix between all of them. Probably the Sarmatian/Scythian element appeared after they moved further east. It is possible that they were not the significant Celtic element in the area of Dacia.
The Costoboci were probably a Dacian tribe because their culture as revealed by archeology was Dacian. Still being in the north, they could have an important Celtic influence.
Thank you. Tudor / Tudur is also a Welsh name.
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Only in Romania is called Tudor The neighbors call it Todor, Todorov, Todorovici. There's also Toader in Romanian
@@BenLlywelynTudor is an regular first name in Romania. Almost never last name. We a national hero with this name, Tudor Vladimirescu who fought in 1821 for the independence....
An Irish Celt even wrote Dracula.
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And messed up a lot of history and movie scripts in the process 😂😂😂forever, including the fate of Bran Castle 😅
I wasnt a huge Draki fan especially when I saw Bela Lugosi wearing a Jooish star.@@DeannaSt
@@rickmccann4016 Bela Lugosi was Hungarian.
@@DeannaSt Tell me what you see.
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John Kerry said he was Irish too.
Hi Ben, thank you for your work bringing all this interesting information! My husband mixed ancestry is predominantly Celtic, he wants me to mention to you the Romanian language meanings of word boi, boii plural and bou singular : castrated male cow, also dumb man. Word “ taur” means in Romanian male cow ( not castrated). Taur, Boii are before Latin language was created , make sense, people used them in their communication, before latin language! See Parta Neolithic Sanctuary, Bull-Cult. Romanian boy is “baiat” . Car/Caruta is also the same in Bulgarian language. Also I have to say that I don’t know all words in Romanian Language , I don’t know if we have another word for boii! Also appears that Latin language, a dead language today, is a polished educated form of older languages existed at that time, Latin language has its origins in older languages and unified them in one language for easier communication, vast Roman Empire needed a that time, possible? Because we don’t know the real origin we call it Latin origin !
Latin is close to Oscan and Umbrian. Those Italic languages were easily assimilated which gave them a base. Etruscan was heavily populated and slowly absorbed into Italian. Having most of the Italina penninsula - among the most populous areas of the world at the time, gave Latin the man power to expand further.
@@BenLlywelyn very good point, communication is very important in military. Also very good point in improvements Celts brought to Dacia. About Dacian language and the difficulties that Romans had to conquer, only small part of their territory, shows that they had a good communication language, otherwise Roman emperors should not have to go for three wars. Thy used, Solid Gold tablets to write on, which is well known the Dacian Gold, and lost today, normally, because gold always was big attraction.
Boy in Romania, most common is baiat, etymology = unknown, barbat , man in English, is from Latin barbatus, barbos in Romanian or bearded in English. In Dacia men were bearded as in Trajan Column, very characteristic and very distinctive and different from Romans which are shaved clean. Barbat from Latin barbatus = barbos Romanian, with beard in English, and baiat is young man or child before beard age. Barbarian is the one with beard, not shaved, not clean shaved, has opinci on his feet, not sandals. And the head covered by Dacian caciula, cap. All still present today in Romania villages. I noticed that after Trajan, many emperors started having beard! As I see in their statues, maybe showing that beard is man ! Dacian were called by Romans Barbarians.
Very interesting. It makes sense that Latin grew out of the need for many different cultures to understand each other and the Romans. I have never heard that suggestion before, why hasn't some learned academic delved into that!
@@olgaroche2929 very interesting and true everything you say. Thank you so much. Multumesc mult din inima. ❤
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in 2018 in sicily i witnessed someone teacher a lesson on how Celtics were once in Transylvania long long ago. With Artefacts he dug up in Castel de Gandolfo
Pardon me, the castel in Milazzo not gandolfo
Nice video.I always felt a kinship with the irish them being opressed in their own lands by the brits and us by the hungarians
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed it and find another nation you feel empathy with.
Very interesting video! I enjoyed watching this on my way to work.
Glad your work journey was interesting.
Danube - Istros (Istru) Amazing content! And funny at times.
Glad you liked it!
@@BenLlywelyn Keep putting them out. For us amateur historians this type of content is a treasure trove! You re awesome!!
There is a river to the east of Romania called nISTRU. I find that interesting.
Cheers!
@@InimbriumAnd Romanian surname Istrati.
Such a great video, thank you!!!
Thank you very much.
Very interesting and nice presentation, thanks! Many people ignore the important influence the Celtic tribes had upon Dacian culture. Were not Tauriscii a German tribe?
The Bastarnae may have partly Germanic, but the Tauriscii were a Celtic confederation of tribes.
Thanks for reply. Which was the first Germani tribe in contact with the Dacians, exceopt Bastarnae?@@BenLlywelyn
The term 'bojtár' also exists in Hungarian.
Romania has a city with the name Galați.
This comes from Galatians, Celts.
They emigrated into Turkey 🇹🇷 and have settled down in other cities called with Galitia like names.
Apostle Paul writes to Galatians settled in Turkey 🇹🇷 .
I find it very interesting too.
Turkey's Celts are another video sometime.
Galatians were not Celts. Read Strabo and Diodorus Siculus where both make clear that Celts are Iberians and southern French, while everyone else in Gaul and beyond in the continent are Galatians. Since the name of the city is Galati, and in Turkey Galatia, it is clear those who founded them were Galatians and not Celts.
This was their perspective in the 1st century BC . Obviously Celts started much earlier in the center of Europe form where they expanded towards West or South-West up to Iberia or British Isles , Ireland and East or South-East up to Asia Minor , Balkans and Peloponesus . As I remember , Celts where divided in at least 4 types and many tribes, according to the space they occupied . Galatians were just one Celtic tribe from southern France which migrated in the 3rd century BC up to Asia Minor. Along them were many others like Boi, Taurisci , Volcae. @@jboss1073
Romanian city of Galati has nothing to do with Celts . Origin of it's name is most probably ,Cuman from a Persian borrowed word meaning "fortress" . Celts never passed by Galati , where long time was just a swamp .
@@seaman5705 No, not a swamp, a lake called Brateș, Galați is a Danube port, the Danube is not a swamp. 😉
“The discovery of the treasure from Barboși , consisting of 3,700 silver coins with the Greek inscriptions Gallati and Kallatiasy , would tip the balance towards the theory supported by Vasile Pârvan and Carl Petsch , which is based on the name of the Roman province of Galatia in Asia Minor . Kallatiasy would rather bring with it Callatis ( Mangalia ), the Greek colony in Dobrogeawhich was the center of monetary issues. The same remark applies to the Roman province of Galatia in Asia Minor. However, the etymology of the toponym cannot be linked to monetary circulation[ citation needed ] . But the Christian missionaries who participated in the conversion to Christianity of the population of former Dacia left here. Thus, in the year 313, the emperor Constantine the Great established a vicariate led by the vicar Cocceius Galatus. A colony called Galati also came into being.[ citation needed ] The event is confirmed by a tombstone of a Roman citizen from Histria dating from AD 157. Another hypothesis, less plausible, is related to the name of the Gaulish Celts , who in antiquity would have passed through the area on their way to Galatia from Asia Minor.
According to another hypothesis, the toponym Galați (together with the toponym Calafat ) represents an adaptation of the Turkish name on the Pecheneg or Cuman dialectal line of the Arabic word kala'at " fortress , fortress" [5] (compare the words kala , kale and kula " from contemporary Turkic languages ).
Another hypothesis would be the Greek word γαλάζιο (galázio) "azure"; the founders of the settlement could have been original ancient Greek settlers from the colonies located in Dobrogea .
Considering that the Galatians topic is quite widespread in Romania, the most plausible hypothesis is that of Ioan Bogdan. The common character of this name could only be formed on the basis of a Slavic-Romanian onomastic "Gal" to which the suffix "aț" was added, a form quite widespread in southern Slavs. The root "Gal" belongs to the Slavic word pool, having the meaning of "dirty" or "mud", which later underwent a semantic transformation, acquiring the meaning of "black". Thus, the adjective "Gal", through the suffix "aț" became a substantive. [6]
Galatia is also known as Kalas in Turkish, Γαλατσι in Greek and גאלאץ in Hebrew.”
Listen, all the names in Romania and surroundings are Dacian origin and older. Even Druidism and herbs are Dacian signature. They taught Celts Druidism, metals and herbs. Let's never forget this. Prehistoric Dacia 1913, Nicolae Densușianu. A recognized peer review book.
All?
In Romania we have city of Galați who is a toponim associated with Celts ,Gauls
YES, ITS BECAUSE THE MODERN DAY ROMANIANS ARE THE DESCANDENTS OF LATINIZED BALKAN CELTS.
My last name is Morhan and I’m from Romania. Morhan derives from Moran. According to websites , we my family has ancestors who migrated to Romania .
Corn is horn in Romanian today also :) Cornul caprei - goat's horn. Incornoratul - the one who has horns, euphemism for the devil.
Nice one.
uni-corn 🦄
The Geto-Dacian civilization had two major influences, doubled by invasions in the Iron Age: the Scythian one, and then the Celtic one. Another strong influence was the Greek one, which was manifested through trade and collaboration in construction, for example. This came indirectly, through the tribes south of the Danube or directly, through the Greek colonies on the Black Sea.
Geto-Dacian "civilization" is a stretch concept adopted late in last centuries by historians to define people thought to be alike , respectively Getae and Dacians . This is because late Roman historians , in the 1st and 2nd century BC said they were the same or related people .
But there is no proof of any Dacian existence in the Carpathian Arc before the Celtic invasions (there were at least two) , nor earlier . Nor is there any evidence that Getae inhabited the space in the Carpathians . On the opposite, Getae were located in the south of Danube with some extension in north Danube valley and south of Dobrogea . Earlier , Agathyrsi , of Scythian/Sarmatian origin inhabited that land in the Carpathians since 7th century BC. They , together with the Celts, were a precursor of Dacian people .
Dacians , even if we accept that were of Getic origin , were a late appearance - not earlier than 2nd century BC , and might have been a pretty mixed people of Thracian and Scythian origin . Note that west of the Dacians , in Pannonia , lived the Iazygess , also people of Sarmatian/Scythian origin , never conquered by the Romans .
Ahh , and there was no Geto-Dacian "civilization" , but merely a culture, not better and not worse than that of their neighbors .
Civilizations in Europe by that time were only the Greek and the Roman ones .
Populations do not appear out of the blue when they are mentioned in written sources but existed before. And not everything is limited to written sources. On the territory of Transylvania, there were several cultures specific to the Bronze Age, some of which were similar to some of the nearby zones, and others were specific: the Wietenberg Culture, the New Culture, the Basarabi Culture, and others. The Basarabi culture includes a good part of the areas later known as Geto-Dacian, and it can be a sign of the crystallization of this civilization. In the first part of the Iron Age, cultural homogeneity incincreasesn Transylvania, we have numerous archaeological evidence including fortifications, metallurgical workshops, large vessels and storage pits, vessels, with geometric patterns,
The Scythian invasion took place around the 6th century BC and the Celts in the 4th century BC and both brought new technologies and cultural transformations
Strabo mentions the fact that "the Dacians have the same language as the Getae", and Strabo, as is known, is a modern historian :)
Basarabi culture has nothing to do with Dacians . Maybe they were ancestors of the Getae , not Dacians . What is sure is that Basarabi culture was an extension of the Hallstadt culture .
Dacians were not a population until 2 century BC when some Getic tribe (or a mixture of Getic/Scythian warriors) , came to rule over the inhabitants of Carpathian Mountains . Those inhabitants were descendants of Agathyrsi and Celts , not Getae . Late Dacian culture from Carpathians was different from Getae culture from around Danube .
Take a look at this , to understand how the Dacians came to be . Romanian historiography is really bullshit when it comes to Dacians - and I am a Romanian . Everybody stretches things because somebody said that Getae and Dacians spoke the same language - unproved because none left any written documents or inscription . But while the Getae have a history , being part of the Thracians (who did not talk same language btw) , the Dacians do not have much of history mentioned by anybody or anything .
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bro you talk so much bs with such certainty and vigor one could in an intoxicated state, right after an anorism, almost believe you....
Boi in Romanian means oxen. Boier which is similar to oier (shepherds of sheep) means a member of the aristocracy, wealthy members of society which seems to imply they had important herds of oxen.
Boier vine din cuvantul slav Boyar.
This was centuries before the Romanian Language, but indeed, these Indo-European links are striking. Like... Bull, Boii
Boier vine de la Burebista care în realitate îl cheamă Burebista!
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@@martacute3620 ce legătură are? Niciuna...
In roumanian, "Bou" means a castrated bull, and "taur" means "bull".
14:46 so funny! In Romanian "boii" is the plural articulated form of "bou" meaning "ox" 🙂
and of course "taurul" is the taurus
Judging by the Dacian faces in Roman sculptures (Trajan's column, Arch of Constantine etc.), that physiognomy is rarely found today in Romania. It looks kind of Nordic but not Germanic, Celtic or Slavic, it was its own thing. Truly remarkable biological specimens. It's probably why the Romans chose to portray them so often in their art. Same as hunters hanging bison heads on their walls.
Maybe. And maybe Romans created stereotypes of them also.
Bravo Frate!!
We are so connected to one another. The more I study history the more I realize that. I feel somehow lucky living in present day Romania , a crossroad of different migrations that shaped us, for good or for bad, in the people we are today. We have a piece of everything.
Great videoclip. I have a question: Was the wolf the symbol of Celts then borrowed by Dacians? Because many Romanian historians argue that the wolf symbol came from Dacians and Getae. Please, clarify. Thank you.
I think the wolf was a Dacian symbol, rather than a Celtic one. I just wanted a giant wolf because it looked cool.
Dacians are celtic culture and didn't borrowed anything.
@@mihaiilie8808 Dacians are not Celtic culture. That is the Dacopatia ideology that you are preaching. Borrowed some traditions from Celtic and the mintage of coins in silver metal.
@@octavianciutacu6162 dacians borrowed from celts for thousands of years because celts been ( through their migration) in romania for thousands of years.
We find celtic artifacts from 4000BC,3000BC,2000Bc and so on, on whole territory of Romania.
Dacians are celts!
Costoboci were not Celts, but one of the main Dacian tribes, at least that's what we were told in school. And Wikipedia seems to state the same. They kept their independence from the Roman Empire and were part of the Free Dacian tribes that weren't conquered.
Do you believe Dacians were Turkic mixed like Romanians today?
@@rickmccann4016 Romanians have no significant Turkic admixture, as can be seen from all DNA studies. Some loanwoards into Romania, yes. So , on what scientific study do you base your claim?
I base it with my own eyes and science and most history is bunk.I dont need a scientist to tell me someone is peeing on my shoes.@@mimisor66
You could take a Romanian and put him in Sicily and he would fit right in, but put him in Northern Italy and he would stick out. People dont like to discuss this to be nice but they know it, ask any Northern Italian. They certainly dont look like Jooish Sylvester Stallone.@@mimisor66
Romanians and Serbians have the Turkic admixtures to an extent, not every single one. I was watching early Romanian traditions on Romanian TV the other day and all of these Romanians could easily fit into Moldova and Ukraine, none looked like they could be working in a Doner Kebab shop (sorry but its true). You can see it with your eyes.@@mimisor66
Regarding the boii and taurisci, in Romanian a synonymous word for ‘bou’ (bull) is ‘taur’
Very interesting. thanks a lot
Im a Romanian from Bacau Moldova and i want to thanks you for such an informative video and for all the research you do. I did a DNA test that says i am mostly related to Celts and Scythians.... but nothing about Dacians lol.
Two sides of a sandwich.
Hate to be a pain, can you list the music you use? Some great listening there.
This was epidemic sound which I no longer have a subscription for. I may go back to them, actually, but I am using uppbeat at the moment.
Any archeologist who dug east Hallstatt would tell you that the late Bronze early Iron Age was Thracian culture, Then from early Iron into La Tene, the Gava culture was Dacian. Dacian Gava culture also used cremation before the expand of La Tene. Dacian culture from mid Danube east Pannonia and Transylvania was slowly taken over during La Tene, but was not an ethnic shift in this region but a rather Celtic elite rule during La Tene.
Celtic elite warrior cast. Nice.
@@BenLlywelyn Obviously the La Tene west Dacians were a Thracian Celtic mix, but at least some of the west Dacian tribes spoke something similar not to Gallic but to 'Romance' Galician. Also necessary to consider that east, central and west Celts came under different influences or incorporated different ethnicities in time. So a 1000 years apart Celt from Spain or Ireland could be quite different already from Balkan Scordisci or Gallic speakers from Anatolian Galitia. For the simple that these groups quite often did not form alliances just on ethnic or linguistic grounds and their alliances were tribes of different ethnicities. The ruling elite carried along different ethnic groups, who used to fight for them and live along. Over centuries they intermingled and formed rather new ethnicities. Based on the prevailing majorities.
For example the Gallic tribes who crossed into Anatolia lived in south Romania today for quite a long time along Getae tribes. When they moved out in the 2nd century were certainly a quite different ethnic group than when they came in the 4th century BC.
Another relevant example could be the Visigoths who sacked Rome and settled in Spain. If historical sources tell us that in 200 years in and around the Carpathians they lived along Getae and Dacians and their kings called themselves Rex Godhorum Dacorum Getorum et Hispaniae, would think that the majority still spoke Gothic, were still Goths. Well the genetics bring a different reality to light on them and we find out that the real Goths were not more than 5-10% of the whole Visigoth pack that conquered and ruled Spain for 300 years. Some early Spanish authors tell us that their ancestors were the GETAE, but who would believe them.. Most would still prefer to believe that they confuse the Getae with Goths. Genetics show a completely different perspective and tell that the 5-7 century Visigoths had very low Scandinavia I1 and were mostly 3rd-4th century Carpathian genes of I2a1, R1a or J2b. Knowing this can only realize that these could only be a majority of Getae and Balkan genes, carried along by the Gothic elite.
Same with the Celts, from a genetics perspective, despite the strong culturally Celtic and Germanic influence in Transylvania, the Celtic and Germanic genes are surprisingly low, not more than 3% combined.. Only the less initiated would still consider any L23 as Celtic and not know that the Z2103/05 remained in the Carpathians and turned south and east. R-L23 Z2103/2105 found high in the mountainous parts of Transylvania, like in the north Maramures and central Apuseni mountains, former Dacian strongholds, separated from the R1b Celtic and Germanic types like L51, about 7-8000 years ago.. So it is about typically Indo European language carriers R-L23, but few 1000 years apart from the Proto Celts.
They obviously separated at lower Danube or around the Carpathians, , when the L51 advanced west on Danube then spread sides to form the Proto Celtic and Germanic people, while the Z2103/05 coincided with the Thracian or rather Getae expand, which name was much older and had a broader cover than the included Thracians. From the Carpathian lower Danube eastern L23 went down into the Balkans, then during Bronze age crossed into Anatolia and south Caucaus, having a strong influence in north west Antolia, in south Caucasus and south east Caspian. No coincidence that all these areas appear populated by the Getae, Moesians, Thracians, Mysian, Pellaics, Daos-Daoi-Dacians, Getaru and Masa Getae people.
So go figure what is the relation between the Dacians and the Celts or why part of the early Iron Italic people originated in late bronze east Pannonia could have been related to the Thracians, while some central south Italic peninsula tribes originated in early Iron age south Balkans could be related or plainly Pellaic Getae. These are necessary to know in order to understand the relation between the real relation between Daco - Romanians, Latin speakers and the so called Romance languages before shouting Latin to a 20-30% Latin derived - 80% Latin related language.
@@Sofia-0001 The dacians are celts, the thracians are the oldest celts and the visigoths obviously, are the dacians, thus celts.
Visigoths coulture is celt, theh grew vineyards as you can see on Pietroasele treasure.
The visigoths spoke vulgar latin like any celt and the gothic was used by Ulfillas to write the bible to convert the germanics.
Visigoths are no more than christian missionaries.
Gepids are same as visigoths just slower( iordanes says this), exactly like the romanians from transilvania.
Gepid is an offence for being slow people.
Even the roman are celts, the etruscans are celts and the trojans are celts.
@@mihaiilie8808 lol Go tell this to some noobies in history, archeology, linguistics, genetics. Baaed on what you just said you have no clue of any of these.
@@Sofia-0001 your not even sure if the visigoths are dacians, let alone to speak about celts.
Celts are vulgar latin speakers, with funeral mounds and incineration. They are the oldest europeans that build Gobekli Tepe and Stonehenge and Plovdiv.
Im a celt visigoth, romanian.
Alaric,Athanaric,names ending in ric, are celtic. Growing vineyards is celtic and the dacians are celts, vulgar latin speakers.
Entertaining !
Ben, you could pass as a roumanian pretty damn well.😀
Must be my German heritage. Quite a few went to Romania.
@@BenLlywelyn you seem to be what they call a "Black Irish", coming through the Iberian megalitic connection. I would be interested in your paleogenetic makeup. I am related to the Chedar Man meself.
Brancusi sculptures and his way of life ,enjoying to live an ascetic way of life altough rich.He was from Oltenia region .
I think he is of celtic origin and his art is inspired from the celtic romanian art.
He is the best sculptor since rennaisance,the teacher of Modigliani ,Issamu Noguchi and the father of modern sculpture.
I would like to see southwestern Romania, from Oltenia up through the Iron Gates and up to Timisoara.
@@BenLlywelyn Timisoara is a nice city but people there have an inferiority complex ,just like people from Cluj .
It is small things like Timisoara had the first electric street lighting, that makes them feel superior in a similar way to the cechens that feel superior because they say the etruscans came from Cechnia 😂.
Better visit Targu Jiu,Sibiu and the Danube .
Craiova its the heart of Oltenia and most celt but i wouldnt reccomend altough i have verry good and smart friends from there.
Timisoara isnt anything celtic related ,more of Austro Hungary influence
.In Oltenia on they eat leek like crazy even in the summer so thats the most celt place with toponims.
isn't Rodin, the father of modern sculpture?
@@youngshatterhand810 Not Rodin but Brancusi is the father of modern sculpture, because Brancusi sued USA that didn't recognized his sculpture as an art work( the customs toght it was a type of tool).
The Brancusi won the process and from then people understand that sculptures can be made very different than the classical forms also.
Rodin is quite classical.
Brancusi worked a little with Rodin, he said he was making a sculpture a day but he didn't liked.
So he worked much more to make his modern sculptures wich he says are the essence of the shape wich you can see, are very different than Rodins works.
Brancusi far exceeds Rodin also through his students wich are Modigliani ( he was a painter also) and Isamu Noguchi.
Rodin is good, but Brancusi it's like an alien, the only modern sculptor comparable to the ancient sculptors and the ones from rennaisance.
Coat of arms of Romania, and Moldova has aurochs (Bos, Taurus ) . Symbol of Moldova is Bou, Boii (plural). Boss in English from Bos/ Bou. Interesting?
Yes.
Muy bueno su trabajo, documentat, veo que le gusta Rumania, los montes Bucegi,Făgăraș, Părâng, debe visitarlo, un saludo de la orilla de Daniubiu.
The name of the Boii is obviously cognate with the Latin term for cow, from which we get the English term "bovine ".
I am a descendant of Celtic Dacians from Alba district, having genetic fragments commun with people from UK and Sicily, according to 23andme
I have thousands of distant cousins with British roots while non of us emigrated to Transylvania from those countries.
I find it very interesting.
This makes me understand why my grandma that never spoke English, used English words as regionalism as it is called in Romania.
Even Yes which is the Slavic Da, Alba mountain people don't have in vocabulary. They say Ye instead.
They are also more green eyed and fair skinned than average Romanians.
It all makes sense now.
In Welsh there’s no word for ‘yes’ either. At least, didn’t used to be until we adopted ‘ie’ because we would just answer I the positive (did you? > I did!, are you…? I am…!, etc.)
But British people were never Celts, that is a Romanticist mythology that Victorians invented for themselves to tie their ancestry to Japheth in the Bible. It is complete pseudo-science and no academic today defends that any Brits, Irish or Scottish were ever Celtic. They were and forever will be Britannic - yes even the Irish, as Britannia Minor was also the name for Hibernia.
@@jboss1073 yawn 🥱 pull the other one, mate. It’s got bells on.
@@Inquisitor_Vex Either engage in the conversation or don't. Don't be half in, half out. If it's too much for your level, it's okay to stand out this time.
@@jboss1073 we have had this conversation before but maybe you can elaborate on your ludicrous theory for the benefit of others reading.
If you’re so confident in your evidence, you should have no problem with this.
THANK YOU
12:35 "corn" is horn also in Romanian. I wonder what the Latin word is for it.
14:41 "boii" is literally oxen in Romanian, and "taur" is bull in Romanian.
Cuarne in Dalmatian
Corn is also horn in Romanian, and bou/boi is ox/oxen. Languages don't lie. And yeah, nothing and nobody is "pure" anything.
Corn means corn in Romanian too.
Indeed!
Hey there Ben, I would like to tell you that I find your videos very entertaining, but sometimes very irritating.
What qualifications do you have on history of former Dacia present Romania?
Also, I’d like to know about yourself, are you pure Welsh or are you somewhat Romanian because you seem to be very obsessed with the Romania which is kind of cool I’m just wondering .
I find it very interesting that you found links between the Welsh and the Dacians. Also, you should look at the Welsh dragon origins on the Welsh flag and look at the dragon that used to be on the Dacian flag(Dragon). Also, are you aware that they migrated towards northern Europe through today’s Switzerland onto the northern sea, Scandinavia then ended up in Ireland and then finally in Wells?
The Dacian language has not disappeared. It just evolved and by evolving I mean, it adopted a lot more words from neighbouring countries, and it developed more than English will ever be developed. Romanian, which is former Dacian, has developed a lot and is a very complex language, it has been around for at least 8000 years .
I find your work very interesting and I would really love to know what fuels you to study Romania and other countries in Europe.
Also if you could tell me more about your background would be very cool regardless of origins actually I find everyone interesting and love just about everybody doesn’t matter where they are from And love talking to them.
I hope You get back to me and thanks for your videos .
See my video on why Dacian is not Romanian.
As for why, I like this stuff so I make stuff about it. I like how layered Europe is and am proud of our Western Liberalism, our faith foundations and cultutal legacy - is a light to the world millions want to be nearer to, willing to cross oceans to reach us.
Were the dacians blood linked to the thracians? Were the latins and the other non - celtic tribes of ancient Italy linked to the Thracians? I would like to know your point of view about the matter. Weren't the Boii present also in northen Italy when Rome was just a village in Latium? Thank you. Your videos are always very interesting.
Here is a video on Boii with a bit of Italia. ruclips.net/video/in5dhLHPzno/видео.html
As for blood, we are all on the same continent, so it is all mixed up
@@BenLlywelyn Absolutely. Our myths show we are intermingled. Some animals like "the wolf" are part of our myths: celtic, latin-roman and dacian ones. Good night.
@@BenLlywelyn”””Oxen” in Romanian (plural) = boi, articulated boii, singular bou
“Bull” in Romanian (singular)= taur, articulated taurul, plural tauri/taurii
The Dacians were historically linked to the Thracians according to the ancient historian. The archeological discoveries indicate that they were very close. But culturally shockingly different and not because of the Greek influences.
In the comments is reminded that the northern Italy tribe of the Veneto have been in contact with the Dacians long before the expansion of the Roman Empire (under a Celtic influence) and this biological and cultural contamination may explain something about the mistery of the Latin - Dacian language relationships.
"COARNE" also means HORNS Plural in Romanian and "CORN" Singular , and we also have the word "TAUR" and "BOI"
Many close links.
Hi Ben!As a Romanian living in the UK,at a certain moment I was interested in Welsh language.I bought a dictionary and I found lots of Romanian-Welsh common roots of many words.
A lot of similarities in how we took on Latin from soldiers, I think.
Very nice content! Here is more about Boii and Taurisci: (1) The name of the Bavarians comes from them; (2) The Flag and Coat of Arms of Medieval Moldova is a Bull - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavia and this is included in the current Coat of Arms of Romania en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Romania.
BTW, between the Dacians and the Germans there was basically a linguistic and ethnic continuum (basically, the same thing); Then, of course, the Germans and the Celts mixed everywhere in Europe.
A video on the Principality of Moldavia out this week.
Fable has it in Romania that the region of Maramures in NW Transylvania has the purest population containing more elements of Dacian identity than other areas or Romania. That is of course a joke. But it does have many commonalities with the still existing Celts - at that time - in those parts of Europe. Compare the Irish and Scottish folk music with that of Maramures ... and the coloration of the indigenous people.
Populations are not pure or unpure.
@@BenLlywelyn My reference to population purity was meant sarcastically.
All stamp the floor when dancing.
My comment is restricted to "Maramures" in Hungarian it was called "Máramarossziget". During the Austro - Hungarian Monarchy it was completely Hungarian populated city, today we still have a 5,000 membership. Just look at some of the buildings they were all built in Hungarian times.
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Yurts?
The only country to have a surname exactly like Boudicca is Romania
That surname is Budica
( Sounds different from McTavish, McKenzie, McLean)
And if it's Boudicea, there's also Budacea in Romanian along with towns named Bucecea, Calacea, Isaccea etc
There are other Romanian/ Celtic similar surnames
Glad/ Glad
Boier/ Boyer
Tudor/ Tudor
Toader/Toader ( like Welsh)
Filimon/ Filmon
Nistor/ Nestor
Dolan, Dolanescu ( Ion Dolanescu,the singer)/ Dolan
Hogea,Hoga,Hogas/ Hogan
Hanganu/ Hangan
Hagan, Haganu/ Hagan
Diaconu/ Deacon
Micle, Miclea ( Veronica Micle)/ Scottish Mickle
The "Forbears society" does a good job showing origin and distribution of surnames.
I like the Tudor - Tudor likeness. In Welsh it comes from Tew Ddôr (A medieval hall's thick wooden door).
@@BenLlywelyn The neighbors say Todor Todorov Todorovici ..
Guess what
There's also Toader and Teodor in Romanian similar to Welsh you just said
All these similarities show that we had a important connection
The trolls south of Danube or west of Romania's border will always argue.
You should make a short video about these surnames that I showed you, especially Budica/ Boudica.
At last! After 2000 years you Sir, say THE TRUTH pure and simple.
I cannot be the first.
@@BenLlywelyn you mentioned Vasile Parvan I think he was the first. But unfortunately he died too soon (he was only 45 years old) and left so much undone. After his death only Nicolae Iorga spoke about the cultural continuum from Black Sea to Atlantic. Almost all romanian historians saw (and are seeing now) the work of Mr. Vasile Parvan an "exaggeration" and therefore not entirely true....
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasile_P%C3%A2rvan
See please here "In order to solve the problems related to the history of Dacia, he organized a series of systematic excavations, especially in the archeological resorts from the second Iron Age. Based on the partial results of the excavations, Getica (1926) wrote - his most important work - a vast historical-archaeological synthesis, through which he brought to the forefront of historical research the political and cultural role of the Dacians; some shortcomings and exaggerations (including the emphasis on the role of the Scythians and Celts in the development of Geto-Dacian culture) do not detract from the value of this work.[9"
The Celts also went up the Dnieper, the Dniester and the Don (notice any similarities?) and the Dacians didnt name them the Celts did. In fact Odessa used to be where Varna is today and Odessa was called Tyrus and oddly enough it was a Phoenician port right where Bilhorod is today. They want us to think it was "ancient Greeks". I wonder why.
Most major European rivers are Celtic toponyms.
European rivers are in Alteuropäeisch, not Celtic. There is no evidence for "The Celts also went up the Dnieper, the Dniester and the Don" nor for "the Dacians didnt name them the Celts did". Alteuropäeisch speakers were very likely the EEF people.
Early European Farmer people? Celts just happened to go wherever these farmers went or vise versa?@@jboss1073
So you are saying the Celts werent in Ukraine? I beg to differ.@@jboss1073
@@jboss1073Kelt is a Hungarian word and when we look at archeo-genetic fact like the Scythian Hun-Han meaning Royal Scythian or Turul-Turan bird being the same as AnZu bird and being the root word for Annya meaning Mother which root word An is the root word for Yan-Jan-Han-Can-Ban-Dan your claim falls apart since there is a clear thousands yeas old genetic and cultural continuity which can clearly be seen from Bronze Age in a large are.
Not even Romans called themselves Jewropean since that identity is a late insert like the Romanian identity and state that has no factual basis whom have no connection to Deutsch-Dutch-Dutchian-Dacian .
So yeah, Dacia is where Celts came from. And English and Vikings, Greeks, Romans, etc.
A bit ethno nationalist, no?
"Corn" in Roumanian as well.
Cornut,cu coarne sunt și în limba română
Bine de stiut. Mulțumiri.
Roxin says we have more than 5000 burial mounds and only 1% are explored. Those burial mounds are celtic and so does the etruscans are because they have same mounds.
If you visit a few such burial mounds you will see paintings exactly like the etruscans have but no script found iet ( because our burial mounds are older than etruscan when there wasn't writing).
In the future I expect we will find more information from these burial mounds.
The thing is our state doesn't want us to find writings because our official statement is that Romanian language comes from Latin.
That would change the history,we would have to change our national anthem probably.
The Romanian state is not trying to hide the Romanian Lamguage - they are trying to protecr the Romanian people from Dacapat lunatics who would spur extreme forms of ethno-nationalism which would lead to innocent people being harmed by purists.
A very nice way to say that from Transylvania to Wales and even further east all Europeans are, a bit at least, related.And yes, the Dacians had very Celtic style weapons.
Celt is a term like meaning old european.
Celts didn't migrate and passed through Dacia because if that happened means they migrated here for thousands of years since the beginning of celts.
Celt is not simply Old European. The Celts of antiquity were fully aware they were in an European world alongside other cultures - Dacian, Germanic, Etruscan, Greek, Lusitanian, Carthaginian, Latin, Baltic. All of those peoples traded with Celt for goods.
@@BenLlywelyn You need to get a metal detector and search for the celts in Romania.
Celts are here since thousands of years, they didn't migrated and they were a huge ethnicity made of various tribes and even countries.
Italians explain it the best, at the edge of the Roman empire are celts and then further north there are the germanics.
Dacia is whole and the oldest celt, Scithians are also celtic and so the whole Europe.
Even the Roman's and etruscans are celt heritage.
The thing is that although you explained that the Dacians weren't in great numbers at the Celtic arival, The Agatharsyi were the local Schythian-Getae pepole that lived there and actualy influecend the celts way more than the Vice versa, at least in terms of religion. Another bizare fact is that some wikipedia pages show that the Proto Celts are coming from the Tharcian Danube part acording to Gaelic folk like stories from Ireland. Could you please tell me if they are faking it?
Proto-Celtic and Iron Age P-Celtic would have been 2000 years apart. Indo-Europeans came up the Danube (some of them) and then split off. But thre time period we are looking at in that is so vast (4,500 bce to the 1st century) whole languages came and went that we do not even know about, and pre-Indo European languages existed in large pockets earlier on.
@@BenLlywelyn thank you for enlighting me!
The celtic people seems to be more as a nomad population, based on the cities, same as the later jews or german jews, the saxons in Transilvania, and being very good în crafts ( coins producție îs a prove of this) . The mountains and the river valleys were populated by the ancestral population from the Cucuteni and others cultures, pushed în the mountains by the newer agresiv indoeuropeans (the russian, Ukrainean and Bulgarian historians are calling them Thracians even if this îs a Greek name of them, but pretending to be a slavic culture even if everyone know that 1500 years ago all the slavic peoples were based to the North-East of Kiev) . This is something which the historians was all ready wrote about.
@@ionelghiorghita688The celts are the Vinca Turdas coulture and they were mostly miners looking for metals and coal and migrating from one mountain to another.
They are as old as a coulture as the cucuteni from the stone age and they were mining with stone tools .Celt means a stone made type of chisel/ hammer used for mining.
Valea Jiului its their native land and they do mining like in Wales.
The old middle Danube name was Donaris, and the lower Istros.
The Danubian delta is a fascinating landscape - hope to see it someday.
@@BenLlywelynI never been there meself. You'll find Cossacks there.
The words corn and boi are still used in romanian today
"Boi" means bulls in Romanian
The Celts is a sea of Dacians ideas, not the other way around. And all Europe and World. The Dacian discovered everything in basic thing in society. Dacian calendar goes back 60k years. Investigate more. Even your Celt gods, architecture and armor, is Dacian origin. History was changed. Because Dacia was the gratest country in the world. Celts stole big time in Dacian culture. Big time.
No.
Celts are plain dacian miners. They didn't stole anything because they were native dacians.
You cant say celts stole dacian coulture. They are dacian and thracian coulture.
In fact these celts are thousands of years older than the name dacian or the name celt.
Simply put, they are the coulture that emerged from under the Black Sea when it was flooded 12000 years ago.
Trachian is the best suited name, better than dacian and even getae.
Celts is apropiate to call them later when they mixed with indoeuropeans Yamnaya, wich adopted the thracian way of life and language( they converted from religjon with burial to religion with incineration).
Funny thing, both taur (from taurisci) and bou (pl. Boi) mean bull in Romanian
Indo-European friends
The bull is a totem animal for Mediterranean south cultures from Greece till the Celtic Spain. It might be that the totem gave the name of the tribes.
Bou means Ox in Romanian. Boi means Oxes in Romanian, Boii is The Oxes and Taur means Bull.
The funerals whithout fire rites are all celtic for the same period its ok,the great Migration of the Celtic people was to avoid the Roman Empire mainly in Central Europe,the escape to the East whith the Delphi Assault tru Brennus then the new Lands in Asia Minor where they where invited.
Hope that the celts adopted the dacogetian Falx,Rhompaia and Sica for heavy duty weapons.
Rome had not yet conquered Gaul during this migration.
@@BenLlywelyn You dont understand,the northen colonization of Italy by the Celts was stoped by the Romans as they where small,ts not about the Gaul Conquest .
In modern Romanian we still use terms like Bour(pl. Bouri), Bou(pl. Boi) to reffer to the European bison(Bour),particularly the breed that used to live in Moldova and is on the Moldavian coat of arms, and oxen(Bou). Very interesting. Another term we use for the European bison is "Zimbru" which is thought to be of Dacian origin, but nobody truly knows for sure. It's so interesting to me how cultures that seem so far apart in the modern day(due to geography) influenced eachother so much in antiquity!
Welsh and Romanian both have masculine and femine forms for the number 2.
Bour and zimbru are different animals
As a born transylvanian I can say my name resonates bot Valach and Welsh, wich in general acceptance is people that migrate to hights.
There are similarities.
As a Hungarian from Transylvania I thank you for your precious work!
Apart from Prehistoric Dacia book, the world cares little about the cradle of civilization, being Romania, Dacia, Atlantis, where the Titans came from really, and egypt culture and pyramids. The highest pyramid is Țurțudui in Romania 300 plus meters high. Dated the highest and the oldest, 28k years aprox. or more.
Atlantis?
Only in Romanian language the article 'i' comes after the noun. Boi / Boii
It can change in Albanian to 'i' with cases.
Esti unul din putinii care spun adevarul❤🎉
Multumesc pentru câ.
@BenLlywelyn Interesting the " pentru ca" expression. I bet you added it after " Multumesc" for a strong reason and not because you just didn't know exactly what you wrote in Romanian.
EMBODYING.....WILD...ANIMALS.....TO...TAME...THE...SHREW...AND..HER..YIELDS""
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Dances With Wolves
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What is your opinion on this video about the history of romania? Is it accurate?
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Hi! I live in Hateg area and i know at least two burial mounds, a few km from Sarmizegetusa Ulpia Traiana, unsearched until now. i always wonder how this tumuls appear in the middle of the field, it looks to me totaly unnatural, more likely man made. I thought it might be celtic...
Multumesc. Glad I could help you understand your local area better.
@@BenLlywelyn you really did a fantastic job. Thank you!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you@@booneclaudi753
Romanian Ardeal derves from Latin "Arduus"( high)+ deal( hill) a reference to the high Transilvanian plateau and is cognate with a whole army of Indo European toponyms like Ardennes forests in Belgium, a vast area of forested hills, Ardal,Ardel and Ardelle names meaning high valour, Aird city in Ireland, Airdrie in Canada ( high pasture) in Scottish Gaelic, Ardauli city in Sardinia ( descend from a hill) and others.
Erdely "erde"( wood)+ ly is just a made up word and the following example strongly supports it.
When the British came to America they've heard the native Algonquin calling a rodent "Wuchak" and that matches the current name of this animal "wood chuck"
Romanian can go ahead and claim that Custer mountains in USA derives from Romanian Custura ( sharp edge, ridge), isn't it?
Nope.
Diddorol iawn. Diolch Ben
Da gwybod bod ti wedi hoffi. Diolch.
Place.. and...Saint....Names....gods
Bou - boi ( plural) means bull in Romanian.....Taur (Tauri ..plural) ...means bull ( but like a prized bull ).....Tauras - young bull...!!
Boii, Tauriscii, Claudii, Brutii, Scipii, Julii...Galii, Dacii, Tracii...Celtii...You know ;-)
Dacii?
Only in Romanian the article comes after the noun Boii, Tauruscii, Carpii etc,
All old tribes were Dacians. You made a confusion between Dacians and Celtics!
Not all. Most.
The gods and their Various Names....help with...Roots.....ie...River gods..Mountain gold..and Eye... Patch of Odin...Woden.....PAN...DEMETER...
MOTHER EARTH WORSHIP......REPLENISHING..THE..EARTH.....BURNT EA4TH..FALLOW FIELD
Siroaie (when is raining)
The Goat 🐐 Christmas custom is Celtic tradition. Burebista took the power in that territory obviously Celt went nowhere 😂. Haggis is Caltabos, branza iute is like Blue Sirloin chese. Scottish kilts the geometry and models are quite similar with the traditional textiles here. People from Transilvania have a different temperament than people from Moldova and moreover from Vallahia. Later on Vandals come,Gots etc. By the end of Roman occupation just the one's defeated by Gepids were the last Romans left in Dacia. The Daces were the warior cast that were dominant. We don't know how majoritan were. Ben if you wouldn't speak English I would say that you look like us.
We don't know either who where the Roxolans and all tribes that helped Decebal through first victory against Romans. However makes sense that during the second war Decebal been left alone and betrayed. I'm wonder why?
Not all Daces wanted the war against the Romans.
Current Romanian language Dacian, Celtic (Welsh substrate) formed during the period when Constantine began his expansion.
We could talk about the second colonisation of Dacia after Vandals were defeated because we're taking about a second population this time from Germanic origins ( so called Nemtii - Neamtz -Piatra Neamt (Stone of Germans same as Wutan God)-Targu Neamt. As well Mountain Chicken from Maramures come from Celts and their traditions.
Romanian language was something imposed as language of the Church imposed to a literally a bunch of different tribes and nations which didn't really had much in common between. Interesting that the intonation of Romanian accent in Transilvania is kind of different than the one from Moldova but completely sounds like a different language compared to Vallahia,Banat,Muntenia.
It was like English spoken by other people nowadays 😂
So youre saying Celts went from Asia Minor to Iberia to Britain and then back down the Danube to Romania to be with the Dacians before or around 600 bc? I was sitting by the Danube river just today and I watched an empty coke plastic container floating up the river not the other way around, A north wind was blowing and even a plastic container was making it up the Danube. They had sails! At some point these same Celts had to go back up the river or did they disappear? I dont see this multi cultural Dacian people as you do when they are an Indo European people. I think you have them mixed up with todays multi cultural Romanians who are a mixture of the Ottoman invasions,
No.
Some Celts went to.Romania.
And some Sicilians went to New York.
Better if we did not use the word Celt at all. Some Boii went.
Some Gauls went.
Some Taurisci went.
The Silures did not.
The Parisii did not.
Etc.
@@BenLlywelyn Then we better not say Irish, Welsh or Scottish we better say McDougals, MacDonalds and Walsh's went to NY?
There is a difference between Cherokee and Shawnee, as there is a difference between Welsh and Irish.
There is a difference in everybody but some people are related with their own kind alone.@@BenLlywelyn
And as far as Indians go, I would be willing to bet if you stood an Indian up with a Romanian today you wouldnt be able to tell the difference.@@BenLlywelyn
Maybe Celtics are roumanian tribes
A few were.
All Celts were exterminated or pushed back by Burebista.
It seems more likely they weee employed by Dacians.
Before the arrival of the Celts, were the Dacian lands somehow devoid of indigenous population? as the Hungarians also say, when we came here, there was no one...😂😂😂
The Dacian thing is a term to refer to the population of present day Romania for easy discrimination this thing whit what was and what will be is shit.
Transylvania is so unique geograpically, and in history half in half out of Rome, there is no way to say who was there for 600 years.
@@BenLlywelyn It is not that unique, very war-like people, high diversity,very unruly people, mafia mentality. Simply put, it is very normal for a place between different cultures (central Europe, Eastern Europe, Southern Europe). And yes, the Dacian thing includes way too many layers.
In those days, borders and politics were more difficult to maintain, instead what made the difference was the language, Micheal Ledwith (Pope John Paul's adviser) said that the Latin language is a Romanian language (the current territory) not the other way around. Where were Remus and Romulus from or Trajan etc
@@BenLlywelynthank you Ben! Again a very interesting subject! And you are getting more and more understanding of these origins, and mystery of unity of Romanians, how they been able to keep the language after so many influences from different populations , and how is possible to be so close to Latin, even more than Italian! What is interesting for me is word “car” , which some say is Celtic, and is so dip in our culture , that one can not say : what is more Romanian than “car cu boi “. And the question : why Romans curved so impressive statues of Dacian men in expensive porphyry and placed them in important places? And Constantine the Great put them on top of his Arch? Why are so many statues of Dacian man in Italy and none in Romania? Some said they are not Dacian, but they are the same as Dacian are on Trajan Column. So there are many questions!
Deities...oof...the...Week