O-Ring vs X-Ring vs “Normal” Motorcycle Chains | What’s The Difference?
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Which is better? O-Ring, X-Ring or unsealed motorbike chains? Here are the differences.
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My speed 400 came with x-rings lol
why lol?
@@seepranavg
IDK why but all the India bound units ship with X-rings
Xrings are just better Orings. Reducing friction on lower capacity bikes to preserve power just makes sense.
Kerosene and a plastic grunge brush to clean. Chain Wax on my O-Ring chains.
Kerosene starts playing...
WD-40 also works pretty well to clean all the grunge off. Kerosene is a safe bet, not going to be too hard on the x/o rings.
Use a better lubricant however. Wax sets up an abrasive paste grit that chews away on everything in a short span of time. Honestly a straight-weight 30 non-detergent motor oil outperforms all the chain lubes on the market, but you have to apply it regularly (like an auto-oiling system). Otherwise, I recommend Motorex Road Strong.
MotoGP uses unsealed chains
Yeah cus they only have to last one race
About like their tires, they don't shy away from high rate consumables for advantages in rolling resistance or grip.
W chain, petrol to clean, engine oil to lube...
You also got XW Ring from RK which is the one I'm using. Not sure if it's better than X Ring though... But everybody talks very well of RK products so I usually buy them ,_,
O-Ring is the way to go for my dualsport-commuterbike. Reliable, easy maintenance and horsepower doesn't matter for my applications 😅
I use diesel and a brush for cleaning and ipone road grease for my o-ring chain. I have a Pulsar NS200 and the chain lasted me 40.000km until i sold it, only tensioning it 6 out of 24 available "clicks" on the tensioner. Cleaning and lubing once every 2.500km and tensioning the chain when necesary.
That's because it was a 200cc bike and nothing about how you looked after it. Take a 1000cc bike and do the same. You won't get 10k kilometers out of it.
Diesel, and other Petroleum products... degrade rubber products, such as... o rings... Science mane, look it up.
@@Stevo299 a) i see people with the same bike as me where their chains won't last past 20.000km b) what do you suggets for extending a chain's life span in big displacement motorcycles? because 10.000km is not much and cleaning and lubing is universal for all chains.
@@hiiamnick1992 I don't suggest anything new. Clean your chain and lube it, that's it. However know that a chain is a wearing item and on big power bikes they stretch much quicker than on small displacement bikes, it's physics 🤷♂️
Cleaning and Lubing every 2500 km??? Give credit to a chain manufacturer, not your way of maintenance!
thank you for a very informative video on chains. i never knew this was a thing, coming from a shaft drive sport tourer owner
All my bikes have x rings chains. They're not really all that more expensive. Worthy upgrades.
I use unsealed chain on my trackday bike, lesser resistance💪🏽. I do replace them more frequently.
I wouldn't spend money on an X-Ring chain.
A different question, the unsealed chain moves quite a lot which translates to less energy being absorbed. Why do MotoGP engineers not use those, since half the engine is rebuilt after every other race anyway replacing a chain should be in budget.
Thanks man, that was a very clear explanation 👍
I got 31000 miles on of my O ring chain before I replaced it. So I'll keep with the same O ring style chain.
The O-ring and X-ring chains don’t have that much difference to normal chains once they are warmed up from riding a short distance.
I used the standard chain for a while, the bike ran much better, but the problem was the lube, the rear tire was getting lubricated as well because the amount of lubricant was necessary.
After religiously cleaning and lubing the chain on my commuter every other week, spending more money on cleaners and lube than just straight up buying new chains every 3 months… I decided chains are not for me and got a shaft driven bike. I will never go back.
X-ring chain, clean the gunk off, install auto-oiler. All the cleaning and maintenance woes are basically eliminated.
what? my bikes since the 80s had and have only sidestands, a few meters free space and a few minutes after a tour and all is done.
thank you.. now i have some understanding about chain on my bike
Which chain do you think he gonna use for Honda CBR project
Only the best for a superbike
My bike has a Gold chain, because its a pimp of a ride 😂
Hey bro love the channel great information and easy to understand 👍
UWU ring 😂😂
Rk GXW is the best value x- ring chain. They're guaranteed for 20k miles.
Depends on the bike and rider. I've gone through multiple DID ZVMX2 and the Regina HPE in less than 16k miles, with normal maintenance and no track use.
I'm pretty sure it's not gonna last 20k in my case.
X Ring chain on my MC22 and NC35, Clean with Kero and plastic brush, then lube with high weifht gear oil as per Honda spec. Used gear oil all my life, cheapest and most effective lubricant option
The 525 x-ring chain is the longevity-based, durable no-brainer.
The expensive racing 520 x-ring chain is the lightweight, somewhat reduced longevity, high performance no-brainer. It's amazing how much power the high-tensile 520 can take for those concerned about the least weight, least drag, least influence on suspension action (usually coupled with high hardness alloy sprocket).
Those in drag racing that want all advantages they can get? They strip out the x-rings (or o-rings) with a metal pick, they install 520 high tensile chain, they install hard alloy sprockets, they install ceramic wheel bearings (offer a much improved reduction of rotational drag), install carbon fiber wheels, and delete the rear brake rotor and caliper.
I've had DID Xring Chains for my 600 and 250 CBR, both excellent chains. Since the sprocket and chain was worn on my wifes 125 we also went and spent the extra 20 bucks on an X Ring Chain, just to be sure that the drivetrain is as efficient as possible. I don't think its a huge difference with bigger bikes but on a 125, you take any advantage you can get
X ring on anything over a 400 and always like D.I.D. ive had one new come off at 147mph of my R6 trying a cheap ish chain once never again...
Average motorcycle and rider weight is around 250kg, and there is a few gramms of resistance in chain, I can't believe that make any difference at all.
x ring all the way due its longevity
Oh my... Your Lab skills and careful yet understandable speaking cleared out our minds up. Thank you ,Mate!
Scottoiler and don't look back. I haven't had to clean or lube a chain in ages and the reservoir lasts about 1,000 miles and takes about 5 min to refill. On top of taking chain maintenance away, it constantly cleans the chain. At 20,000 miles on my current chain and it's never moved. Last chain went 50,000 with no adjustment needed, it just finally started spitting out orings.
X-Ring Chain for me, because my KLR demands performance parts.
call me maniac, 1200cc o-ring and a bicycle chain oil that surprisingly holds up to the high speed riding ^^
I use a DID X ring Rossi chain in 525 pitch looks awesome performs awesome too and a bit of bike meet bling too lol
Not really fair comparing new chains as they are normally coated to protect them. Why not compare some used O-Ring, X-Ring and unsealed chains :)
unsealed chains wear your sprockets more quickly so it’s worth spending more on a sealed chain
Suzuki Gixxer 155 and 250 have O-ring chain by the way
Very informative video. Please make more videos on these basic stuffs like this.
What is the best chain/ o ring, x ring & nomal chain ? Low price , long life time use , strong , high speed , low weight , what chain ?
Why wouldn't MotoGP bikes use unsealed chains?
Wondering the same
My guess, probably since they don't want to keep spraying chain lube every few laps. Most of it will probably end-up in the race track as well which sounds like a safety hazard.
@@bloodasp6278 AFAIK they're not prohibited, which I think they would be if they were a safety hazard.
Probably don't last long enough for a race. No lube and friction means they get very hot.
@@CyberChrist got no idea honestly, might be they just don't want the hassle of re-applying the lubes on the chains. Those things go fast so the chains will fling almost anything you put on them. Also, I heard they pretty much use WD40 for everything.
DID 530VX3 X-Ring Chain 150 Links For yamaha R1
Xring from factory on a svartpilen 401
I'd like to see actual dyno tests of the same bikes with different chains before I give this idea of friction sapping power any merit. Sounds like marketing googah
I'm pretty sure it would be fractions of a hp or kw. So probably barely noticeable on a dyno
18' CBR1000RR with RK X-Ring chain.
Sooo, most important question: How much horsepower do I get, when upgrading to an x-ring chain?
4:23 you loose evtl 1-2 hp
I run x ring.. do i need it? No.. but i wouldnt want to run without seals
Only the best for my babies.
No viedeo of the cbr today? 😢
0:46 Dont forget the Z-Ring
Is that not just another alternative to the X-Ring like he mentioned in the video?
Yep. Its got 1 less contact point on either side, but it's also less effective in sealing.
Yamaha MT 15 O ring chain
very informative indeed
Is there a way to differentiate them visually? I have a 2007 cbr1000rr but I don't know what it comes with.
Yes, you can at least tell if it's a sealed chain just by looking at it. You will see the seals between the inner and outer plates
@@mad082sss Ah it's my bad I meant between o-ring and x-ring
what is stamped on the chain links?
or you can look at the rings
O / X / W
We got there in the end
Driveshaft
Great work
FYI, the example for non-sealed chain shown at 1:17 is a suzuki gixxer 150cc and it comes with an O-Ring chain
It CAN come with any of the above and different markets will actually have different ones.. If you live in a Salt belt area, you likely got an X/O ring chain, if you live in a very dry area where you dont get Snow and Salt.. your bike may not come with one.. Arizona for example.. you get a cheap "NO" ring chain lol. this is the same with cars.. many different markets and such.. look into Subarus 2002-2007 lower control arm recall, it only effected certain models sold in rust belt states.. not ones the were sold in "nice" areas..
Nice
Brilliant..
then what is Z ring chains
just a z shaped "o" ring
Asking anyone. Is the z900 x chain
The links have a brand stamp into the side of them. I'm not sure what factory runs with the Z900, but probably "DID" and probably 525 pitch. No idea about the seal shape.
@@exothermal.sprocket idid find out its a x ring and id like to know how to keep the chain in propper condition
@@firdaustalukder3328 Cleaning on a semi regular basis is the main thing. If you simply scrub all the crud off the chain semi-regularly, you're doing more than most. Lubrication isn't as critical for the chain as it is for keeping corrosion (rust) from forming. There's a thing called a "grunge brush" look it up. Also a stiff nylon bristle cleaning brush works well, something you can scrub the chain with after soaking it with a solvent that doesn't harm x-ring rubber. I have used WD-40 as a solvent to break down all the crud and scrub it off. After that, hit it with a blast from a water hose.
what is grease is it a different what to use etc explain?
Factory sealed. Not sure what brand, viscosity, or "soap" thickener type is used. More than likely varies by manufacturer. You'd have to find the brand and chain model number, and chase the manufacturing data trail back to the supplier who might have that information.
Best part, it's factory sealed and you don't need to do a thing about it other than keep the crud cleaned off the outside and hit the rollers with some lube on a semi-regular basis. The place where lube is actually needed is the surfaces where the O or X ring connects with the inner and outer plates. Some marginal reduction of friction can be had with roller-face contact with sprockets. That all happens naturally. Auto-oiler units simply drip onto various parts of the rollers and the forces involved in driving spread the lube where it needs to go.
@@exothermal.sprocket i tho selard x ring is like complate full change that are full fix together without need to put the lock thing. Like one full whole chanin?
@@imrin4059 I am not following your statement, the English is difficult.
@@exothermal.sprocket forge chain? No gap to put link lock. Just the whole continue chain
@@imrin4059 Most chains offer both the ability to use a connector link or a more permanent connection. Either way, the o-rings or x-rings remain sealed for life on the chain.
If you use a spare connector link the roller and pin will have grease on them before assembly, same with the permanent style connector which requires a chain tool to peen the end-pin for retainment.
Motorcycles till the nineties had chain covers. The chain is completely protected from dust, grit, sand etc....
you must be really young because this is nonsense, MZ, Simson, Zündapp, Kreidler … only a few had chain covers.
It all sounds to much like hard work to me . I'll stick to shaft drive thanks. Once every 2 years/ 24,000 kms undo a couple of bolts ,drain the oil replace the bottom bolt, put some oil back in and replace the top bolt and it's done. Mind you I'm old and lazy and not into getting speeding fines, losing my licence or going on to the track.
@davidrochow9382 yeah shame all the shaft drive bikes are boring 😂
Good if you tour I guess
@@mark675 What about the Early Honda V4 ( which I have one of) or the Yamaha VMAX?
@@davidrochow9382 not a fan of either I'm afraid
FortNine did a comparison between different chain lubricants, afair ceramic and gear oil was the best. „Never Buy Chain Lube Again? Comparison Test - FortNine“
for my 1981 Kawasaki 750 LTD Twin 49 hp 50 Nm was and is O-ring the default, 40.000 km with chain wax but dirty rims is no problem.
for my 2022 T120 1200 ccm 80 hp 100 Nm seems X- and Z-ring to be the default. has now 15.000 km with chain spray every 300-500 km. I am thinking about an manually chain oiler for ca 30€, not 200-300€.
I use XRing for my 400 cc bikes.. last longer,no need adjustment for a year after 10k km of hard riding
I change the chain and sprockets on any new bike, the standard chain and sprockets look like something off agricultural machinery!
cant beat the look of a gold chain and a renthal sprocket 😂
the look doesn’t matter, my chain as daily rider is black because of the dust, dirt and chain wax/spray
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