Dorothy Kilgallen, greatest media star of the 20th Century, investigates JFK murder, ends up dead
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Dorothy Kilgallen was the greatest media star of the 20th Century.
No one did more than her.
Newspaper 25 years
Radio 20 years
TV 15 years
Why is she forgotten?
What did she learn?
Why did she die?
Why would her family and friends not talk about her death?
![What's My Line? - Richard Kollmar [Dorothy Kilgallen's husband!]; Garry Moore (Nov 20, 1955)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zD3sCwaf_8g/mqdefault.jpg)
This lady deserves a movie made about her life! Beautiful, talented, great personality, she had it all! So sad the truth hasn’t come out about her passing! Hopefully one day it will and justice can be served!
Totally agree
Her murder was planned...she knew too much about something that had to be stopped from exposure by her syndicated journalism columns.
I would love to watch a movie based on her
If the truth came out, people would demand answers. Those who really killed Kennedy don't want that to happen.
@@ajperkins288 There is a movie coming out called "Good Night" it is her story apparently. release date to be announced, that was back few years now. But, "collateral Damage" documentary touches on it.
Journalists today can’t hold a candle to this lady. She was fearless and she couldn’t be bought. She cared about finding the truth and reporting the truth.
Such a rare and beautiful quality
The JFK assassination file was locked away for 75 years! One day we may find out why they killed Dorothy?😳
@@padijeff5675 do you think we will ever know the truth? I admire your optimism.
@SavageArfad LIES, LIES, LIES!!!!!!
Well said. That was her. Very accurate description. 👍.
Murdered, erased from history and smeared as a boozer and drug addict, she deserves better.
Hmmm, I thought she was a boozer. You mean she didn't enjoy an occasional drink or two even if it was numerous times throughout the day?
Well said. When we started watching WML earlier this year, she became almost like family to us… so bright and quick and intelligent above anyone on tv.. actually we can’t watch the episodes after her passing. It feels wrong and not the same. What a remarkable and inspiring woman she was. 😞
That's how the CIA goes about its business.
@Kurt Schirmer
Absolutely tarnish her life to discredit what she was going to reveal next.
This is the best memorialization of Dorothy Kilgallen I've ever seen! Great job!
Time is fast running out as most will have died soon
Indeed. She lives on with her husband together again.
Thank you. It was a work of passion.
I actually did a biography of Dorothy for my 10th grade AP literature class. Extraordinary lady. Especially when you consider the time period when it wasn't common place.
Absolutely she was decades ahead of her time.
I can’t watch the episodes of WML after her passing… we started watching WML earlier this year and she immediately became our favourite panellist.. so smart, so witty, so intelligent, so gentle , so beautiful and what a loss. When we found out why she didn’t return we felt like we lost a dear friend. I remember her saying “ oh John, are you supposed to be making me confused?” After John went on one of his long winded explanations with her easy yes or no question. What an amazing woman and we adore watching her.
She was a wonderful woman and ALL of America loved her and would have believed her book. That's why the criminals silenced her.
I mostly enjoy watching the show because of her too.I remember one day just clicking on some clips of the show on youtube. I was almost immidiatly drawn to Dorothy , who is that woman.
i always thought Dorothy’s husband was a wonderful, warm man. i knew he would be devastated, but now i just find out he committed suicide a few years later. an utterly tragic story - and we’ll never know who or what organization murdered her and and took her book. i’m just totally bummed out by the whole thing :| 🥀
Maybe her husband did it for booze, not money. After all, he never got much as she usually drank it all. That would explain why he killed himself. Choosing the importance of having a drink over the companionship of his dear and precious wife who undoubtedly was deeply devoted to him like all women devote to their family who put their career first.
Her husband was a drunken moron....what she
saw in that creep I'll never know..
He killed himself because in his eyes he was a failure as a husband and a man..and as a human being.
So sad..🥺
Man, from what I read on the Internet, Richard's cause of death is kinda conflicting. Some forum post said he died of a drug overdose, while other sites said either a heart attack or injuries from a fall killed him.
I'm not sure if that's suspicious or it's due to some sources being notoriously unreliable
Was she murdered? I have been trying to do some research and it’s difficult to find the answers to what really happened to
Her. I thought she had taken a barbiturate / alcohol mix that killed her ( not suicide). MAYBE that was an easy cover up for what really happened to our dear Dorothy? It wouldn’t shock me in the least to find out something very corrupt happened to her as she didn’t appear or sound to have the problems i mentioned above. She was always very quick and bright.. if she was murdered that disgusting person I hope
Is rotting in hell.
But did he really commit suicide? I could easily believe it in the sixties but in the 21st century, hearing about all the people who have been suicided, it makes me wonder if the original story is actually true. And I don't care what troll posts on here to laugh or ridicule this statement. I think it's a question a lot of people are now wondering. The truth always surfaces even if it takes centuries.
Thank you for keeping Dorothy’s legacy alive. 💖🙏💖
Thank you
It seems when anyone tries to be honest in politics they die. The Kennedy brothers die when they start fighting corruption. This women dies when she is about to release a book, and even her secretary dies afterwards, probably because she knows her secrets and has paperwork on everything. Politics is totaly corrupt, when people get honest, they die or are blackballed for not playing the game. (The lying and stealing game.)
It's called Secret Combinations, and it's real, and has been around for a very long time.
The Kennedy's, ALL of them, were as corrupt, if not more so, than most. JFK might have been a little bit less so than some of his family, but his horrendous philandering made up for any slight bit of clean politics he may have played.
@@Theyralltakenfu It's the feud over the birthright between ESAU (jew) and Jacob-Israel.
Yes THEY are evil and will kill to keep their power
My fave on WML and I prefer these old shows to mainstream TV today !!!
Yup, lots of junk today
I was just a child at the time, but I knew she was murdered, and I will never forget her
So was I. I was only 8 years old when she was found dead. I was just too young to understand what went on back then.
Yes, keep her memory alive
Me too. Even as a middle schooler I never could swallow the official "story".
Your video is so moving.sad ending.I didn't know that her secretary died too.I am reading the Mark Shaw book now.Thank you for making this tribute.
The person who is sometimes referred to as Dorothy Kilgallen’s secretary was actually a friend, not very close, named Florence Pritchett Smith.
When people say the two ladies were neighbors, that’s also wrong, unless you consider every Manhattan resident to be everyone else’s neighbor. Florence lived with her husband and son at 1120 Fifth Avenue. Dorothy lived with her family at 45 East 68th Street.
Dorothy’s death was very suspicious. Florence’s death wasn’t suspicious at all. She died of a cerebral hemorrhage after having been bedridden with leukemia for more than a month. She was bedridden at home. There were no hospices then.
You can ask her (Florence’s) son Earl Smith to confirm these details. He is a longtime Boston resident. In the 1990s he worked for John Hancock Life Insurance. If anyone expresses interest, I can try to find Earl’s current email address. He never had any siblings.
@@kelloggs5473 she was another dead Disney associate...
The dead are linked to Disney...
Anyone who knew about the assassination of JFK seems to get bumped off! Witnesses in Dallas also have died!😟
@@padijeff5675 OK I get your point but of course they died that was 60 years ago I was one year old.
Thank you
My tribute is an act of love
Love of Dorothy and love of the truth
Mark Shaw is an eloquent and devoted seeker of justice on Dorothy’s behalf. His book ‘Denial of Justice’ delves deep into the ‘mystery’ of Dorothy’s death as related to Jack Ruby and the Kennedy Assassination. He also has a RUclips channel. Check him out.
Thank you!!! I’m checking that out now. ✌🏼
@@PROUDCANADIANGIRL I will do that. Thank you.
Very nice tribute. Dorothy was a journalistic pioneer as women were generally not found in newsrooms back
in her day. A tragic murder. Hopefully one day there will be justice for Dorothy.
ha ha never happen...you mean like the mass shooting in Vegas??? What did we learn from that?
this smart lady was murdered by the mafia because she knew too much about JFK and the mafia - they (democrats in power) hushed and lied to keep it from the public - very much like to today with Epstein and about 45 others who supposedly "killed themselves."
@@adamodeo9320 You’re right, with the mobs help who thought they would get their casinos back in Havana they wanted Castro killed and Kennedy didn’t follow through with the Bay of Pigs, because he was lied to by Allen Dulles. So he made tremendous enemies with the mob and the CIA. Perfect storm for the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell address, took over with a coup and killed the president of S Vietnam Diem and three weeks later killed Kennedy and anyone else that knew to much. They then went wild in Vietnam, for 15 years killing 2 million people while lining their pockets with money. Bell helicopters invented by Michael Paines step father made fortunes. Why did Oswald live with those people so much? Hahahahaha unbelievable
@@ronniebishop2496 as an ex democrat - i have to admit that demos do not adhere to democracy
@@adamodeo9320 I was raised by democrats my entire family were democrats I was a democrat but these people today aren’t democrats. I’m not either anymore lol.
Thanks for helping to restore Dorothy’s rightful place among the world’s greatest journalists among other accomplishments, she herself said journalism was her first love. Anyone interested in finding out what happened should read Mark Shaws book the reporter who knew too much. Excellent read!
Why hasn’t a movie been done about this dearly incredible lady!
They would probably rewrite all the facts to cover up for the slime that was and is our government , an independent project would only present facts and keep the dignity that was Dorothy Kilgallen !!!!
Because that One State and it's various seditious, Treasonous and murderous organization's that were Most certainly responsible for JFK's Murder as well as Dorothy Kilgallen whose information had gotten too close was also behind Robert F. Kennedy's murder and used it's ties to the Mob, the CIA, it's Mossad and even Hollywood to orchestrate it's Occupation and seizure of Our Federal Government and Country since 1913 enabled by Traitor's within it and some American State's politician's and Law Enforcement Agencies included. A Very Well known political family or two are connected to the "accident" that killed JFK Jr. that wasn't an accident either.
No, these Luciferian Criminal's hope to keep Dorothy's story and memory buried with her if they can for as long as they can.
Probably because that if ALL the facts were to be presented on "the Silver Screen" it would cause an uproar that would cause a reinvestigation of the Case and Circumstances of her death. I agree with you that not only a movie should be made about it, but a reinvestigation of the circumstances of her death need to be made. It would then cause a reinvestigation of the J.F.K. Assassination as well.
I think a movie has not been made because no one gives a rat's a** about her. She wasn't even close to being the biggest celebrity of any decade or even year, let alone of the century.
@@constitution_8939
Hmmm, wonder why Caroline is still alive. So who then killed JFK, JFK Jr., and Dorothy Kilgallen?l
She attended Jack Ruby's trial and got an exclusive interview with him and she was the reason that Dr. Sam Shepard got released after being convicted of killing his wife. She had influence and what she reported mattered to important people.
Incredible… she was incredible
She was important and powerful and a threat to the criminals who killed JFK
I never heard about Dorothy before. Recently I came across an interview with Mark Shaw that was fascinating. I plan to read his books as soon as I can get ahold of them. I think everyone should know this amazing woman!
Pam Doherty Watch "What's My Line?" on RUclips, and you will feel like you know Dorothy Kilgallen. One of the best shows ever on television, and you can watch dozens of episodes.
Yes she has been conveniently forgotten and intentionally erased from history
I've read Mark Shaw's book. It's a wonderful recounting of her life and murder. Fascinating!
@Evan Degenfelder Yes an excellent source
Notice how Bennett Cerf added that she was a tough investigative reporter. He knew what happened!
+AJ Perkins she was seduced by spiritism and have mediumnic qualitities a great Lady and friend of Spain :-)
Thank you for the compliments. I was motivated by the injustice of Dorothy's memory being errased from history as a reason to make the video.
I agree with you entirely about your comments in regard to Bennett Cerf. He rarely talked about Dorothy after this statement and if he did it wasn't about her death. Dorothy was dead. Her secretary "died" the next day. Did Bennett think he was next?
Bennett Cerf and Random House did eventually publish a book, "Murder One" that supposedly was the book that Dorothy was writing at the time of her death. It was published posthumously. This most likely was a over up and written by a ghost writer. The book is about the Sam Sheppard trial. Dorothy already wrote about this trial. Why would she write about it again?
This was an attempt to show that Bennett Cerf knew nothing about Dorothy's investigation into the JFK assassination. His comments on that episode of What's My Line would give the impression otherwise.
Dorothy was dead. Her secretary was dead. Who else knew the truth about JFK? Bennett Cerf? Dorothy's husband? Her husband "committed suicide" a few years later.
+AJ Perkins It's amazing how this show had all the high society of the day hiding behind a game show, It was an upper west side cocktail party.
+Zenith Stratosphere If that book was published, many people would go to jail, even future (at that time) presidents.
if Bennett Cerf know whats happened surely Ginger Rogers too
Dorothy died the same way as Marylin Monroe.
guess what she knew Marilyn
And guess what they both were related to kennedy
With the lights on, which she commented about with regard to Marilyn's death.
Perhaps of more significance, WML host John Daly was the son in law of Senator Warren. Kilgallen had information from the Warren Report leaked to her during her investigation and was, in her words, about to blow the whole report "wide open".
If you watch the show that aired the following week, Daly appears to have aged a decade overnight.
Those Kennedy’s are full of secrets, they’re trash!!!
With multiple drugs at ridiculous doses
Her life was filled with intrigue and sophistication. She was/is my favorite panelist on What's My Line.
She was the most well known woman in the country at the time. Soon after her death she was forgotten. People didn't want to talk about her or even admit they knew her.
That's sad that she was "Forgotten".I am now reading the book "THE REPORTER WHO KNEW TOO MUCH"
Shows me that US was no more or better than a Banana Republic at that time !!!
And me....!!!
@@IanP1963 What makes you think it has changed? Kennedy was taking on the "deep state". The "deep state" took him out. Trump is in mortal danger.
This kind of reminds me of what happened to Karen Silkwood. Being involved in an "accident" just before blowng the whistle on a huge story.
What they did to Mozart was even more heinous. Poisoned by many over time. And they say he was "sick from birth". These evil were sick from conception.
Yes! Dead women tell no tales.
@@godisreal9384 and you know who THEY were
@@ajperkins288 One of them was Beethoven.
@@godisreal9384 he was a Mason?
I never heard about her but now I’m watching all the episodes of what’s my line. Fun to learn the biographies of each celeb. Dorothy was a kind soul.
All she wanted was for the truth to be told. That was a pure intention
Type in "Mark Shaw, Denial of Justice" and follow what happened, or did not happen leading up to, and after Dorthy's death; especially afterwards. Many details about her death really stick out, and should make anyone question the circumstances. Which is why the case has recently been reopened.
In 2017, the office of New York County, New York district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. started an investigation of Dorothy’s death. Eight months later (still in 2017), his office closed the investigation.
@@kelloggs5473 It was closed for lack of evidence, which, in this case was due to the time that had passed without any type of investigation into her death. You have to understand who Dorothy was and just how popular she was and the power and respect she had as a reporter during her time. Male or female, no one carried the respect she had earned as an investigative reporter, and yet there was no investigation into her death, and any attempt to do so at that time was instantly stopped. You can listen to a video made by Mark Shaw on December of 2018, which was to promote the book that came out this past year. Watch the video on RUclips because it's a condensed version of the book. Just type in "Mark Shaw, Denial of Justice". There wasn't enough evidence to keep the case opened because there was literally no investigation into her death. You'll understand why when you listen to the video.
@@kelloggs5473 What a sad state of affairs when the people in a free democracy have been well and truly shafted by one of there own government agency`s and the majority of people have let them get away with it such is the classic case of Dorothy Kilgallen who in 1965 was murdered ! who was Dorothy Kilgallen ? An American and a well know and respected American investigative reporter in her day who shall we say got the drop on the Kennedy Assassination but what happened to all her papers on the JFK Assassination in 1963 that she was about to make public ? ........ The founder of the FBI J Edgar Hoover was implicated as was Jack Ruby in the JFK Assassination in 1963 so when are the FBI going to come clean and produce these documents that even after 57 years can still be found in their archives ...... or don`t they believe in Law & Justice for the American people ............... What a cover up or perhaps i should say what a botched up cover up that even after 57 years people are still and will continue to ask .......... Who Murdered Dorothy Kilgallen
Yes, her being posed full make up, a small hairpiece missing, holding a book upside down in lap reading, hateful killers, ...
Reopened and shut
The evil forces that silenced her are still working in the government
Another shameful cover up .
@SavageArfad Very well put. Dorothy was a great lady and a great journalist. She was not the greatest media star of the 20th century as this video alludes. No need to apply exaggerations to her.
There is NO credible evidence indicating she was murdered, just as there is zero credible evidence that Kennedy was murdered by anyone other than a lone loser. There are certainly questionable things, such as Ruby offing Oswald, and yes the quote unquote pristine bullet is a little bit interesting. But to conjure up a vast conspiracy that is all around us, all the time, lurking around corners... bullshit. Just bullshit.
There's never been a cottage industry that pays and pays like the Kennedy conspiracy theory. Those who profit from it are not the most scrupulous bunch in the batch. But, that's OK, that's capitalism. But those who do have torn up their journalist credentials. That's my opinion, anyway. I should note, in the first few years after the assassination, it made perfect sense to investigate it with a bias for finding conspiracy, as did Dorothy herself. But over 5 decades later? Nah. It's over and done and nothing that a reasonable person would find noteworthy has emerged, while all the evidence that has emerged solidly fingers Oswald. It was a lone loser, and no conspiracy.
Finally, as you mention, those who willfully slurp up the hype, well... I don't hold them blameless.
@@stephencalder8217 You're a great Bullshiter just like Posner💩
Yes still happening today, I.e. Seth Rich
You did a good job putting this together.
Thank you a labor of love
I've been watching the old "What's My Line" shows to remember how civilized things used to be.
All my years I've never heard Dorothy Kilgallen was murdered for JFK assassination knowledge.
Same cause of death as Marilyn.
Mentioned she was about to blow the story up.
Dead that night. She was fantastic.
If anyone found out, it was her.
"civilization" is a cover-up mask for the sordid, seething evil underneath.
We only met DK early this year finding WML…
When I saw the episode where she didn’t return we were SHOCKED to say the least!! This is very interesting info as like I said.. we just learned of her a few months ago. I’ve heard to read what Mark Shaw wrote too…
So basically because of her JFK knowledge? Wow. This is all mind blowing but on a sick level makes perfect sense. A woman journalist murdered by the most corrupt
Of the corrupt. RIP Miss Killgalen.
Yes, dead women can't tell the truth
@@PROUDCANADIANGIRL if you knew who killed JFK it wouldn't surprise you
This in itself could be a GREAT motion picture.
That has been my hope for years. She was one of the best known women in America but was soon forgotten after her death. Those who knew her denied it. They were afraid they would be next. It is a crime that she has been forgotten.
+AJ Perkins What she did was of worth, written for the moment, not long-lasting and styles changed and the power of print diminished. Her skill of writing didn't really transfer to writing books. Very few stay on top forever... but she was on top for a long time.
+Jim Britt That was true and she was killed in her prime. Of all her roles and accomplishments, her favorite was that of an investigative reporter, as seen in her coverage of the Sam Shepard murder trail. Murder One and her investigation of the JFK assassination, was the pinicale of her career. She was snuffed out before she could publish her findings.
I think she enjoyed being a celebrity most of all. The way her and her husband lived was part of their downfall. I think it was fowl play, but she was a very easy target.
Such a brilliant woman, now watching "what's my line"
Amazing isn't she
Excellent video, short and to the point. If only one could re-write history and let Dorothy have her say. Bet the country wouldn't be in the mess it's in today. Mark Shaw wrote a follow-up book to the Reporter one, called Denial of Justice. It's awesome, well worth reading. Wish we could all unite and get Dorothy the justice she has been denied at least twice.
Absolutely the criminals would have been put in jail and executed
One in particular would have never became president.
It is my hope that eventually truth and justice will come out
Dorothy was a true American
dorothy was brilliant and fun
we so miss her
teenie beenie she really was a national treasure
She was great! And her death is highly suspicious. Her death, and the death of her secretary (if that is true) really point an accusatory finger toward the invisible powers that be.
Indeed it does. Mark Shaw, bless him, has begun the work. Let us pray that another investigator will show the tenacity and integrity of Dorothy Kilgallen--by uncovering the truth about her murderers.
The woman often referred to as Dorothy’s secretary was never a secretary. She was New York Journal-American columnist Florence Pritchett Smith. Her column was totally about food, recipes for it and the sophisticated New Yorkers who ate it. She died following a long bout with leukemia.
Florence’s personal physician signed her death certificate. There was nothing suspicious about it. But Dorothy’s death certificate was signed by a medical examiner, and not the one who had shown up at her death scene, not the one who had performed the autopsy. There you have a suspicious event.
The only details that bloggers sometimes get right are that Dorothy Kilgallen died sometime in the early morning hours of Monday, November 8 and Florence Pritchett Smith died sometime on Tuesday, November 9 before the late-afternoon power blackout. When people say Florence died two days after Dorothy died, they are wrong. It was the next day. When people call Florence a secretary, they are wrong. She and Dorothy may have been friends but not close friends.
Yup, THEY killed Dorothy
good night, Dorthy....
Thanks for posting this. Well done.
Thank you
I literally watch “What’s My Line” daily as I don’t watch regular TV but from my thousands of DVD’s and series most all pre- 1970 shows/movies.
I have read quite a bit on the murder of Dorothy Kilgallen and how so many of these types of death are never solved only proves the power behind them. A power that is still today a danger to Americans and always will be.
I began reading more about her roughly 20 years ago. I remembered the game show, and during my reading of the Kennedy assassination, her name kept popping up. Once I got more information, I was shocked to learn she was in plain sight and had been swept under the rug.
Yes those who can kill a president can take out a journalist too.
@@stevenance4844 yes! She was silenced and EVERYONE in the US would have believed what she wrote.
Don't forget that Daley was married to Earl Warren's daughter and that Dorothy was very outspoken in her contempt for the Commission.
do you mean Daly? things like that show a lack of attention and sours a conclusion.
The Daly connection is very interesting...
No wonder Daly said nothing when the panel said their good byes after her death..
@@janetmessman95 Interesting, I don't know anything about this matter, yet, even I noticed he didn't say a word. I was wondering why he seemed so solemn and didn't say a word.
Yes there was a rift between Dorothy and Daly over this
+AJ Perkins - Excellent job producing this video. I have had the same question as you - how could people forget such a multi-talented and influential woman? There is one thing I noticed and I wonder if other "What's My Line?" viewers noticed how it seemed like Dorothy and John Daly's banter had a little more of an argumentative/almost-hostile tone to it, at least during what I've viewed of the last season. Then I read who John Daly was married to at the time - Elizabeth Warren, daughter of Chief Justice Earl Warren, as in "The Warren Report". It made me think that Dorothy's very public, continued investigation into the JFK assassination must have created some animosity between Dorothy and John. Just my observations.
Lorraine M your perceptions are correct. There was tension between the two. Dorothy openly criticized the Warren Commission in her newspaper articles and public interviews.
Some say for her reporting the truth and winning the game (as in WML) was more important than friendships and personal relationships.
If you watch What's My Line episodes chronologically from the spring, summer and fall of 1964, taking into account which episodes were videotaped in advance, then you can see a major increase in John Daly's hostility toward Dorothy.
It even was more noticeable than seven years prior (1957) when the front page of the New York Journal-American newspaper ran her article without a byline about Mr. Daly's lack of faith in Mike Wallace's journalistic integrity. Yes, that anonymous article
made him angry, but it led to moderate hostility during What's My Line that was hardly as severe as Mr. Daly's behavior between September 13, 1964 and November 7, 1965.
September 13, 1964 was the first live telecast of What's My Line after her major scoop of Jack Ruby's testimony to Mr. Daly's father-in-law.
Dorothy's name was prominently attached to the scoop, Newsweek covered it, and the testimony made Mr. Daly's father-in-law look like an incompetent Washington, DC bureaucrat who ignored a lot of what Jack Ruby told him. John Daly was not amused by the public’s access to this information via newspapers throughout the United States.
Yes, the “Ruby testimony” was reprinted later in one of the 26 volumes of the Warren Report, but how many people mail-ordered those 26 volumes? You could not buy one volume by itself. But in August 1964, millions of people read the newspapers that ran Dorothy’s scoop. Each weekday edition of a newspaper cost a nickel or a dime. (Sunday was not one of the days it was published.) So Dorothy caused trouble for John Daly. Compare his interactions with Dorothy on September 13, 1964 to their interactions on the episode prior to that chronologically, and remember that episodes aired by CBS on August 23, August 30 and September 6 had been videotaped before their long vacation. The Ruby testimony appeared in various newspapers between August 18 and 21. So the episode where you start to see severe hostility dates from September 13.
Wow. Great observation.
I heard that John Daly was married to a Warren. Her father was head of the Warren commission. Is that accurate and a reason for the coldness between the two?
@@donna6368 John Daly was married to Chief Justice Earl Warren's daughter, Elizabeth.
I wonder if the advances in DNA testing would uncover some missing details...or somehow solve the mystery.
I suggest you read THE REPORTER WHO KNEW TOO MUCH written by Mark Shaw.
@@larciabella I read the reporter who knew too much ..they call her the babushka lady...she saw everything....the babushka lady hides Dorothy in the Kennedy Oz enigma..
Some times the DNA is to old . I been reading up on it. A good friend was killed over $10.
It's already solved. Lee Harvey Oswald did it. Go home.
@@1madDogz they are talking about who killed her not JFK dummy
Now do one on Mary Meyer...Cord Meyer's wife who became one of JFK's lovers...and who was subsequently murdered in 1964 and whose private journal was stolen.
Yes Georgetown .
I never heard of her
i wonder why her life hasnt been brought to cinema. its the perfect story that MUST be told. any ideas who could play her?
I totally agree
Please click below for a New York Post report from 2000. It is reporting a project for the Showtime channel for which Anne Heche "is in talks to portray 1950s gossip
columnist Dorothy Kilgallen . . ."
nypost.com/2000/09/19/dead-ringers-heche-to-star-as-kilgallen/
Sometime after the year 2000, the Showtime project dematerialized. Approximately three years passed before producer David Yarnell informed Ms. Heche that Showtime executives had backed out of the project. Because so much time passed, the media never reported that the project had been aborted. Neither did the media report (ever) that Mr. Yarnell knew Ms. Heche because he was married to Ms. Toni Howard, her agent with International Creative Management, better known as ICM.
Here is better news about the public’s chance to learn more about Dorothy Kilgallen. Please click below to confirm that in December of this year, Simon & Schuster is distributing a new book about her by experienced author Mark Shaw.
books.simonandschuster.com/The-Reporter-Who-Knew-Too-Much/Mark-Shaw/9781682610978
Sandy Bullock
Did anyone read that New York Post report from 2000 about Anne Heche? Scroll upward to my previous post then click on it. As you can see from the Post report, there already was a Kilgallen movie project a long time ago. Executives of the Showtime channels were in charge of it. Circa 2003, the executives dropped it before filming started. And that was when more people who remembered Kilgallen were alive. What do you think the odds of filming are now? Slim, obviously. The black-and-white kinescopes always will be here on Google plus, but nobody is likely to spend money to hire actors to portray Dorothy and her husband.
yeah ive read it. i really wonder why they woudnt continue doing it? what do u think? and i think anne heche would have been perfect for the role. maybe netflix or some other studio would make a series out of her life? who wouldnt watch it. her life is really worth a major project, its in the 50s and 60s, in my mind i could imagine so much to tell and im not even thinking about the conspiracy theories around the assassination.
Dorothy Kilgallen was such an impressive and very smart woman. I've always been such a fan of "What's My Line?", and I enjoyed seeing how quickly she and the panelists figured out many of the occupations and mystery guests. I couldn't believe that she herself was a mystery guest. It's awful that she passed away, but her legacy as one of the greatest people the 20th Century saw will forever stay with us through history, through our hearts. 😔♥️
Thank you Johnny
well done. I saw a JFK vid. saw this link and learned about someone. its a shame how many people have to die. to cover up a lie.
Dorothy wasn't the only journalist who died (killed). JFK Jr was also a journalist. He owned the magazine George. He was planning to publish stories about his father's murder. Unfortunately he was killed in a plane crash before he had the opportunity.
That's crazy.
@@ajperkins288 I remember when I heard about JFK Jr.'s death. Those small planes are very easy to sabotage. I think the plane crash that killed Paul Wellstone, the progressive Democratic senator from Minnesota, was suspicious as hell.
No lie. it's a conspiracy theory. BTW the Earth isn't flat either.
@@1madDogz The evidence is now overwhelming, there was without a shadow of a doubt a cover up, as is so often the case with dirty politics.
This is the best memoralization for Dorothy Kilgallen.
@rosiedebevc1952 thank you
She also died the day before the big New York City blackout.
Hmm, I never realized that.
No, you're wrong. Many of us have heard of Dorothy. She was a pioneering woman, highly intelligent and a great lady. I've read a great deal about her and I believe she was murdered. As was Mary Pinchot Meyer. All because of what they knew--or found out--about the murder of JFK.
Thank you for researching Dorothy
More people should
wow...lots of info I did not know. I appreciate the video.
Thank you
What a very sad state of affairs.A brilliant star extinguished.
Mozart was a much more brilliant star. They did the same and worse to him. ENVY kills.
And kept quiet
This was quite disturbing. Frankly, I'd never even heard of her until TODAY when I watched an episode of "What's My Line?" and then, "To Tell the Truth" on which she appeared. Then I saw a video of them panelists paying homage to Dorothy (included in this vid), and saw your vid under related videos. I didn't know anything about her, but the fact that she was the only reporter to interview Jack Ruby, that she seemed in good health and a good mental state just hours before (on What's My Line?), and that her secretary died just a few days later all just scream foul play. What was given as the official cause of death?
Accidental death caused by mixing alcohol and sleeping pills. But there are a lot of peculiarities about it. Things that sound highly suspect.
then her husband committed suercide 5 years later, maybe arkencide
Just so you know, Dorothy was the only reporter to interview Ruby DURING his first trial, which was overturned. He was also interviewed by another reporter while he was awaiting to be retired who was killed mob style...bullet too the head. retried*** not retired.
Her official cause of death I believe was listed as unknown....but she had alcohol and I think 3 different types of sedatives in her system that stopped her heart. She was found dead sitting up in bed, dressed in nightclothes but with a normal blouse over top of her night clothes (very odd) a book was beside her face down as if she'd been reading. It appeared to be a very poorly staged scene....oh yes, also the bed she was found in was in a spare room that Dorothy never slept in... Very bizarre and her secretary dies a couple days later. Of course she did, she had probably had access to Dorothy's book as well. These oddities aren't all just coincidences...
@@jhanlon1903 Strange, from what I understand all of the men in Dorothy's life, including her husband, were sodomites.
So evil existed at the national level even before the modern era. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Someone knew and took it to their grave.
Yes it's all the same evil that controls the nation now
@@ajperkins288 You have a point there, AJ.
I'm glad efforts are being made to remember this remarkable woman. She deserves some
recognition. What is this beautiful music for JFK funeral?
I can't remember. I got it off a site for free public domain music. I made the video on an old computer that I no longer have so I can't look it up. The Shazam app might help identify it
Her secretary, Myrtle Verne, died not two days after DK died, but 9+ years later. This fact should be corrected in the video.
I just said that too.
My Father was friends with Ms Dorothy. He had just spoken with her on the previous Monday. When we found out about her Death, that was the only time in my Life that I ever saw my father cry. And YES, she was about to blow the lid off the Murder of JFK!!
@donnysmith946 Did your dad know Ms. Kilgallen at the office of the New York Journal-American? If not, how did he know her? What was his name? Did he leave behind a diary or a note about his last conversation with her?
@@davidhenschel1990 All I really know is they met overseas somewhere. My father's name was Vernon Smith and no, he didn't have a diary that anyone found. I just remember how upset he was when she was murdered. I do remember him saying something like They got her too. Wish I knew more, but I don't!!
@donnysmith946 News of her death circulated on a Monday afternoon. Do you mean your dad had spoken by phone with her a week earlier? What was his line of work? I realize he was one of thousands of people who could have told very interesting stories about her, but no one interviewed them. Many were alive in 1975, 1976 and 1977, when Lee Israel was working on her Kilgallen biography, but Lee could contact only so many people.
@@davidhenschel1990 Yes, David, It was the Monday the previous week. At the time my father was in Military Intel. Hew was in during WWII, then got out and went back in July 1960..bI don't think anyone talked to my Father about her, at least he never said. But in 1975 I was in the Navy. Father passed in 1990.
She was about to spill the beans, pretty obvious what happened to her. Mark Shaw is very brave trying so hard to bring justice to her, but there are many people in high office who want to keep this case quiet
Yes. All the way up to the very top, in one particular case.
Strangely enough, her daughter dismissed the foul play aspect of her death while others around and close to her, her hair stylist, driver and housekeeper, friend, Johnny Ray, did not accept her death as merely suspicious, but stated it was "murder."
Daughter probably threatened
@@gregory6003 or scared
Her daughter didn't want to be killed next
MS DOROTHY KILGALLEN was the greatest media star-as a person is , she will never kill herself,not in a million year,the last show she appear in whats my line-she was full of joy.rest in peace....no one can harm you-anymore,DOROTHY
Yes RIP
She was an amazing woman
What gets me is that she was tiny. She loved her children and someone killed her. Big brave man
...U THINK THIS WAS A QUESTION OF MANHOOD?...wow, no wonder we are in much worse condition now. she ran up against absolute power, and absolute power recognizes no equals except those who behave like themselves. ..man, woman or child.
@@skyjuiceification Jackie Kennedy called it "raw, naked power."
Yes they made fun of her in posing her in full makeup, dresses up, intentionally leaving her small hairpiece off, Dorothy was a scrubbed face, pajamas lady at bed time .The culprits had a book upside down in her lap reading'...the hatred for her was terrifying...
@@skyjuiceification Only God has power. The mafia uses brute FORCE.
THEY killed before and killed afterward
It's all about control and power
I remember her from when I was a kid on What’s My Line, but never knew anything about her involvement in the Kennedy assassination. Very interesting.
What a sad state of affairs when the people in a free democracy have been well and truly shafted by one of there own government agency`s and the majority of people have let them get away with it such is the classic case of Dorothy Kilgallen who in 1965 was murdered ! who was Dorothy Kilgallen ? An American and a well know and respected American investigative reporter in her day who shall we say got the drop on the Kennedy Assassination but what happened to all her papers on the JFK Assassination in 1963 that she was about to make public ? ........ The founder of the FBI J Edgar Hoover was implicated as was Jack Ruby in the JFK Assassination in 1963 so when are the FBI going to come clean and produce these documents that even after 57 years can still be found in their archives ...... or don`t they believe in Law & Justice for the American people ............... What a cover up or perhaps i should say what a botched up cover up that even after 57 years people are still and will continue to ask .......... Who Murdered Dorothy Kilgallen
Yes the murders of her and JFK didnt want you to know
I was 6. It was weeks before Thanksgiving. I didn't know about her until much later. What a dear soul! She's loved.
Yes my love for her continues
Another good soldier goes down in the line of battle. She is one of so many that we’re not public figures but who saw wrong and tried to right it. I could see that we have so many out there today who are risking everything to speak the truth. I don’t know if justice will prevail in the end but we’ve got some brave brothers and sisters out there and so the battle is far from over. Her family of course is saddened by her untimely passing but they must be so proud.
Yes those who speak out against the evil powers DS are still silenced
I was born long after her death, and didn’t know who she was until this past year watching What’s My Line. She is the smartest woman! I fully believe she was murdered
Absolutely, she was silenced
I agree too coincidental dies after her articles criticsing the JFK assination a book about it the only one that interviewed jack Ruby the book never found her secretary dies 2 days later yes I smell a big rat
@@seanohare5488 all of America would have believed the words in her book
Oh, my gosh, yes, there needs to be a movie about Dorothy.
I agree
A FACTUAL movie!
They need to do a longer documentary and discuss more about her investigation into JFk and her death. The details surrounding her death. This doesn't do her justice. How strange no notes of her book where find. What did the corner discover about her death??? I am sure if looked into further . She was murdered because of her asking too many questions and trying uncover the truth. It's strange how is she almost erased from history.. another journalist Danny Caslro was found dead apparently it from suicide and his death has mysterious circumstances. He was investigating "inslaw" the computer software company who created a program called" promise" to help case management for the FBI only the FBI stole the software under the false pretenses saying they would pay for the use of the software. They never paid and forced Inslaw into bankruptcy . Caslro under covered much more. When they found him all his paperwork and files gone. Our government lies, steals, commits murder and gets in bed with people with alot power and money. If you step out of line or ask too many questions. You might end up dying in mysterious ways. Sad very sad.
All of Dorothy's info, manuscript, notes, timelines, contact list, etc disappeared that night
Dorothy Kilgallen and her death is more than unique. I cannot write enough here so if you do Google into her story consider her credentials, her sources, her intentions, her gift of intuitive reasoning. Consider that there was credible evidence, credible motives, credible opportunities for her to be murdered. This was not Marilyn Monroe. Dorothy's death wreaked of foul play long before the conspiracy theory ideology slowly has made her a footnote. Look at the facts. It is reasonable to argue that she was the only person who could have brought much truth to the surface.
Yes she was also respected and trusted by the whole country. If someone was going to talk, they would only talk to Dorothy
She was a talented smart tough woman, but u could tell a sweet personality and a very cute smile
nice to hear a rational comment, the hyperbole in here is maddening, lucky if 1 in 10 alive today has even heard of her!
She was very popular.
Fans on radio and TV enjoyed her personality
I love beautiful Dorothy Kilgallen almost as much as I love What’s My Line!
❤️❤️❤️
Congrats in the edit. Such a jewel of recordings do you have!
Thank you
This was a awesome lady and there definitely should be a movie made about her. I kind of remember her on What’s My Line
THEY that killed her control the media
No movie under those same conditions
That's sad. She does What's My Line? on Sunday night. And then all of a sudden, she was found dead the next morning. Her husband remarried two years later (in 1967). But then he committed suicide in January of '71. May they both rest in peace. Amen.
He was killed too. He gave her info to the Kennedy clan I read.
Yes Amen
Thank you for making this video... I love What's My Line and just ordered all 15 years...I loved all the celebrities who graced the panel and loved Dorothy's intelligence and humor...she has been gone for over 50 years, as well as many others, and I still love them all....I guess Dorothy knew too much and it sounds suspicious as to her untimely death and her disappearing research, etc. And her secretary dying days later??? Secrets....
Diane Morgan Wow! Would love to know what really happened. Such a lovely and intelligent woman. Of course, we do know that the same criminals who shot Kennedy, murdered Dorothy. Hope the story can be told someday.
Dorothy, the woman who knew you much
She was intelligent and amazing
The book notes may not have been found in her apartment, but I wonder whether, at some time in the future, someone will stumble upon a copy in some unlikely spot, and the whole story will come out. Dorothy was a tough, experienced reporter who must have known what danger her JFK work had put her in. She might well have squirreled away a copy just in case.
The copy idea IS a good one... although at the time the the only way to copy something was to make a carbon copy.
Hopefully it's out there and will come to light.
So much info about JFK continues to be hidden
Dorothy Kilgallen was the real life Lois Lane.
For more info on her death, look for vids by Mark Shaw, and his book "The Reporter Who Knew Too Much"
Watched it, so much planning..New Orleans to Dallas, Vegas, Washington, Oswald's military, CIA involvement, and Ruby ..telling Dorothy Killgalen he was terrified, shaking, sweating in interview she did with him during trial ..He never thought he would need to fear' he was a patsy' as Lee Oswald..one' maybe, of the shooters .
Yes Shaw is an excellent source
Brave. A real Journalist. She got in their way.
There is none like her these days
It’s nuts that no one has made a film about her life story and tragic murder! I find this history to be particularly interesting, right now. As some big media names (social media included) are being outed left and right as biased, while other media personalities are now saying they are being told to shut up by a mean DS is fascinating. Maybe it will happen soon, if this trend continues.
Yes the DS killed JFK and THEY silenced Dorothy and continue to erase the truth
Fascinating! people must have really been scared. it just sort of quietly and quickly went away.
Dorothy's father never talked about her after her death. Arlene Francis, Dorothy's friend and co-star on What's My Line, stated for years she was looking over her shoulder wondering if she was being followed or next. The fear of being next kept people silent. This mass silence about Dorothy resulted in her memory to be forgotten.
Her death was quite likely a warning to other investigative reporters to keep their hands off.
The host of What's My Line (John Daly) had a second wife (Vivian Warren) and her father was Chief Justice Earl Warren of the Warren Commission. How about that?
Who would you pick to play her?
@@pamdoherty723 I don't know because I don't know the entertainers these days. I haven't kept up with them for decades now.
Yes and there was some friction between Dorothy and Daly
Dorothy dies, her secretary dies, her husband commits suicide; what's wrong with that picture? Her family won't talk? Her notes were never found. Is anybody experiencing Deja Vu?
Sad that she's practically forgotten today. She was a trailblazer for women.
Love the Introdution of the video. DK NEVER TO BE FORGOTTEN!!!!!! ✨💞🌸
Thank you
If I were a detective on Killgallen's case the disappearance of the drafts of her upcoming book on JFK's assassination ("hit") and would have raised major red flags.
I'm sure it did but the detective was probably told to shut up and end up dead too. If THEY will kill JFK and Dorothy THEY will kill anyone
If I wasn't at work right now I'd be sobbing.
I know a terribly sad story
All she wanted was the truth
Her husband had information that he said he'd "take to my grave", because they had three children together.
The children would have been at risk if Komar told the truth about what he knew.
Dorothy uncovered the truth about the assassination of JFK.
Exactly. She was silenced
I'd never heard of Dorothy Kilgallen, until I happened to listen to a RUclips video (recently) by Mark Shaw. Since then, I've been fascinated by her. It seems she was erased from history. That is highly unusual I would think. By all accounts, a very talented and fearless journalist.
Erased exactly. Out of sight, out of mind and hopefully everyone will forget she learned the truth
Reopen this case at once. Shameful.
I agree
Unfortunately I don’t think we will ever know the truth :(
I regrettably tend to agree
AL NEED BE SAID.. FBI CAME TO HER HOME TOOK ALL HER PAPERS SECRETARY DIED 2 DAYS LATER, She was so smart so intel she would have been the 1 to find something HUGE!
I hope the truth will come out one day. I think that's always what was most important to her as a journalist, and she deserves nothing less.
All she wanted was to know the truth
Thank you for this, she was so true, such a wonderful lady, who in my heart will never be forgotten for her bravery and care for the truth. Thank you Dorothy wherever you are... I'm gonna continue the truth,im gonna spread the truth.
Yes continue to spread the truth and keep Dorothy's legacy alive
It a shame that the truth is dangerous and deadly. It still holds true today. Many powerful people get away with horrible things. I hope some day the truth comes out. Be well friends stay safe
CIA killed Kennedy why wouldnt they kill her. Guess who did 9/11 and rig elections like obamas.
Military!!
Yes THEY are literally getting away with murder even today
I´m extremely impressed by this woman. Just stunning.
All of America was impressed and they would have believed her book 100 percent
January 8th 2023.💌
Oh my goodness... My breath stopt for a moment when the text stated that her husband had commited suicide. And then I realised, they had been together for 25 years. He must have been her confidant. I had looked him up once and had seen that he had remarried and 6 years after Dorothy had died (Wikipedia). But after that moment of my breath stopping for a moment, I immediately realised they had killed him too !! And before him her secretary 😖. The bible says that in the end of times ; "those who are filthy will become filthier and those who are clean will become cleaner.."
Those filthy ones will that one day stand before The Lord God Almighty, Most High in Judgement‼️
I hope their children have come through this impact on their lives well and balanced. And as I've just taken notice of this I hope and pray the best for them and possibly their offspring !! And also in consideration thinking of her secretary and those who had to miss her !!
God bless them all and those within the innercircle of Dorothy, her husband and those close to the secretary - way up to this day and all extended ones 💐💐💐
Sincere regards in Christ Jesus Our Lord
through The Holy Spirit 💖,
in His service ✝️🌹,
A. DEE WAI 🕊️
yes I was thinking that too about them standing before God on judgment day and giving an account of everything they did. those people were so evil they didn't care who they hurt or killed and didn't care that they left her family without a mother wife and daughter. they think they got away with it too but they are so wrong they had to face God at the end of their lives
And THEY that killed her we are battling right now. THEY control the media and are trying to take over the world.
@@ajperkins288
January 2023 31.
Dear friend, "they aren't trying" -> they already do 😖‼️
Now, I'm a Christian and utterly a 100% convinced that these are the endtimes the bible talks about. All are already taking their place...
I don't know if you're familiar with
"From JFK to 9/11, it's a rich man's trick" & Dark Legacy II ? Next to that "mr" Bergolio (calling himself "pope Francis)... Altering first the 10 commandments of Mozes (something even The Lord Jesus never did !!) and now "having written his own" and "under the pretence of goodwill bringing faiths together in the package called "climate change". If I find the time and you're interested I can look that up for you !! It ALSO has to do with President John F. Kennedy, since hé wanted state and religion apart, where from already a long time ago the roman-catholic "church" wanted those as one... You need to know more about the "vatican and the (final) position of "the pope" !! Once you get to understand that...
These are eye-openers if you're up to it..
Let me now.
God bless 💐
Sincerely in Christ,
A. DEE WAI 🕊️
@@a.deewai3181 i am familiar with all of this. Have you heard of The Fall of the Cabal?
@@ajperkins288 Hi there,😏
No, I haven't... I'll look into it if I can. Are you sure you're "enough !!" informed about the vatican ? And I deliberately remove the Capitol "V" of vatican !!
Sincerely in Christ,
After all these years the truth re/ her murder needs to finally be put to rest! She deserves justice!
Absolutely
If you live in Columbus, Ohio, then you can contact Dorothy Kilgallen's friend Ron Pataky, age 81. He can confirm that her death is a genuine mystery that deserves its own niche in American history. He says it is hardly old show business gossip. Maybe you can visit Columbus if you don't live there. Ron has a Facebook page where he tries to draw attention to poetry he has written. A few of the poems are written from the point-of-view of a psychopathic murderer. Ron likes attention. He also liked attention during the year and several months when he was very friendly with Dorothy Kilgallen. There was no internet then, but he wrote a daily newspaper column that could be read in Ohio, not in other states.
David Herschel One interesting thing about Ron is that he became super religious after Dorothy's death. Was he trying to deal with some kind of guilt?
Possibly Ron Pataky is using his religious zeal to deal with his conscience, or lack of a conscience.
Evidence from the microfilm of the Columbus, Ohio newspaper indicates he expressed interest in Christianity when Dorothy was alive.
In April of 1965, he told his readers that few local movie theaters or nightclubs were doing good business during Easter Week. He mentioned Easter in several columns. April 1965 was during the time period that Ron knew Dorothy.
He apparently became more zealous after Dorothy died, especially after the Columbus newspaper fired him in 1980.
How unfortunate. Ron is still here while Dorothy has been gone.
Yes she was murdered and it was covered up.
I watched all of these as a teen back in the 1950s and enjoyed them then also.
It is sad however to know now after all these decades that not one of Dorothy Kilgallens so-called friends on this show ever questioned the mafia controlled coroners report of her death which indicated she died of alcohol and barbiturate overdose when she was certainly not a drug addict nor a heavy drinker. Had they done a thorough autopsy they would have found three different substances in her blood which indicated murder not overdose. Had the fix not been in they would have investigated the obvious staged murder scene that they willfully overlooked. So sad.
ruclips.net/video/VYDaqto22NY/видео.html
I’d love to read the article you included by her, “a big night in augusta” - can’t seem to find that!
Dorothy's kids don't give a damn about how she died. They're all too cowardly to ask questions. Smfh
While I don't remember Dorothy Kilgallen on What's My Line? (I remember the lovely Arline Francis, my favorite panelist, and Bennett Cerf, drama critic), I am shocked that someone would try to murder her and her secretary all because she wanted to expose a story about the Kennedy Assassination where she felt that the FBI aided Jack Ruby in his murdering Lee Harvey Oswald and other findings. I think she was trying to do her journalistic duty to the American people to know the truth. How sad. Someone who had been born to report the facts (her father was a reporter in Chicago), as well as becoming a well-known television game show panelist, had so much going for her, and to be cut down in her prime (52 y.o.) is hard to get over. May Dorothy rest in peace, power, and gamesmanship. She was a class act.
Thank you
She was about to blow the case wide open. What happened to the manuscript of the alleged book she was writing and "about to publish"?
It disappeared never to be seen again. Also all her notes, travel logs, contact lists, etc disappeared
Dorothy ventured into the "Swamp," where there are people of un limited hatred, evil & cruelty. When these people cross over to their "Destination," they'll find out that God keeps score, & knows every thing. He does have an "eraser," that's just for those who find out how to get Him to use it....
Yes Poppy is on the other side now and facing punishment
*They may have killed her body but not her soul. Those involved will pay for her death. You can take that to the bank.*
She also was in a race with newspaper writers to travel around the world. She came in second