Panasonic 12-60mm f/3.5-5.6: Everything WRONG that's RIGHT for Beginners (How to MAKE GEAR MATTER)
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Lumix G 12-60mm f/3.5-5.6
Everything WRONG that's RIGHT for Beginners
and How to MAKE GEAR MATTER
That was a way longer vid than I had originally intended! Thank you for being here :)
It was perfectly fine, no need to apologize! Especially with the truly amazing photos and videos you put in as b-roll. Stunning what you did with this setup! On top of helping me as a beginner with a G85 and this kit lens, to be confident enough to not go into a buying spree and instead stay with the kit lens for now. Just found your channel, and really enjoy your style and presentation! Subscribed!
As a beginner trying to make a purchase decision it's so hard to navigate the minefield of videos and forum posts that more often than not are not geared towards someone just starting out in the hobby. Thanks for making a video that really put things in perspective for me and made me not "feel bad" about getting an "inferior product". Super excited to start my journey with the EM-5 and this 12-60mm lens!
Congratulations on starting on your photography journey! If I may give you some un-asked-for advice: Learn Light and think about light with every photo you take (unless it's a photo for memory then don't worry about that stuff). But for your progress it's all about the light and how it interacts with your subjects and surrounds xxx Have a blast and thank you for your comment :)
My first real camera experience was with a Panasonic G85 and this very lens.
I was heading to Russia to live and study there, and it was the perfect all-round lens for the anything-can-happen style of shooting I was doing there.
The lack of low-light performance did get to me, but the relatively small kit with great stabilization and the long versatile zoom range proved to be instrumental.
The zoom range definitely makes it a great all-rounder. Thank you for sharing your experience with the 12-60 :)
Very well said... I have a G9, the 12-60 G and the 25mm f 1.7. They really do teach you to make the best use of the light you have, or in my usual "studio" case, to better light your scenes and subjects. And once everything is in a neutral color space inside of Resolve... It really matters little, at least in terms of color, which brand of sensor captured it.
Hi Lee. I am glad you feel the same way. Both the lenses can do great jobs.
Those are absolutely stunning shots... Just got the G85 with this and a 25mm 1.7, excited to use it more. Those are wonderful shots and defintely quite exciting. Will follow foot steps! Learn on this setup and then move when it's time.
I started out with the 12-60 f/3.5-5.6 and 25mm f/1.7 -> so we have the same combo for MFT:)
I’m happy to hear you like the shots - thank you!
Your creativity came through wonderfully on that camera and lens.
Thanks Kurt. Yep, that camera and lens setup was a pleasure to shoot with.
Hi Natalie. Well explained and well deserved upgrade. I am looking forward to the next videos and your detailed comments.
Gracias Mama :) This video took a little longer than expected to edit so now I'm running late for Taryn's birthday!
Hi Nats, beautiful summary and goodbye video to the lens. Some beautiful footage in there showing off cape town, table mountain and some great portrait photography in there also. Didn't recognise the misty shots - really cool and has a halloweeny vibe :) I also loved the timelapse footage used for transitions and the background track works nicely as it doesn't interfere with your review. xx
Ah, thanks G! The misty shots were from the morning I ran out of coffee and went out in the mist to get some xx
The 12-60 3.5 is an expensive lens to buy separately - and it has dual OIS which is often overlooked - it has a purpose as a general purpose travel lens
That's was a good video. Thank you for sharing.
I changed from a Nikon D90 to the Lumix G80 in 2019. I was impressed at how good the kit lens was on the G80. I now use Olympus E-M1 ii and Sony full frame. There are advantages to both systems and very little difference in image quality.
Just got the lens at bargain and just love the quality, range, compactness, lightweight, OIS amd and good quality on my EM5 Mark iii
Awesome!
Excellent video - thank you. Just purchased this lens used for my Olympus EM10 mk iv. I’ve gone the other way a bit - started with Nikon APS-C but have discovered the benefits of MFT, particularly the lighter bodies and lenses for travelling.
I hope you are enjoying the MFT system! :)
Just subscribed. I really love your line "How to MAKE GEAR MATTER" (I think it's a more accurate and balanced idea than the statement "Gear doesn't matter"
I’m glad you liked the line. Yeah, the whole ‘gear doesn’t matter’ thing is a bit too concrete.
Apologies for the late response!
@@NatalieRosellaBoonzaier No problem! I have a LOT of things that I don't go with the crowd about, and I don't like general statements because they don't offer any tips or instruction to those listening to the statements. I think your statement gives simple, but solid advice (pardon this paraphrase) "Entry-level gear is a great tool to learn on (or with) and ADVANCED gear will be a pleasure to use, when you get there" ...I forgot to mention I've been figuring out custom settings that make the entry-level 12-60 easier to color grade, etc. and it's up on my RUclips channel now. There's 1 option with a Tiffen BPM18 (Black Pro Mist 1/8) and one without.
@@silverlightphotoco i will be sure to check it out! I’ve had a good time grading on straight forward Natural profile. I will check out your video right now. :)
@@silverlightphotoco whats the title of your video you mentioned?
@@NatalieRosellaBoonzaier Thank you for asking! There are 2 (1 with filter and 1 without...the one with the filter is working better for me):
1. Cinematic GX85 LENS-SENSOR SETTINGS for Panasonic 12-60 3.5-5.6 BPM18 (Tiffen Black Pro Mist 1/8)
2. Cinematic GX85? Lens-Sensor SETTINGS (Panasonic 12-60 3.5-5.6)
Also, you have to make sure to use my CUSTOM, LENS-SENSOR SETTINGS for it to work:
1. With Filter: NATURAL Profile, -0-3+4-1, -3+3 Highlight Shadow
2. No Filter: NATURAL Profile, -1-5+1-1, -3+4 Highlight Shadow
NOTE: The tests worked the same on both the G85 and GX85 (same sensor and image processing)!!!
This is a super perfect yabadabadoo beautiful and on-point video. thank you!
Ah, that's a real sweet comment - thank you!
one word. Underrated. Youre the best!
Thank you so much, Harold :)
Many beautiful pictures taken. Nice.
Thank you :)
Just wanted to drop in to say:
My latest vid wouldn’t have uploaded without your help! Watched a vid of yours about Error Compiling Movie stuff and it totally solved my problem. Spent HOURS working on it before I got to you.
Thanks thanks thanks. I should credit you in the description 😊
That is so good to hear. Really motivating feedback for me. So thank you for reaching out. I'm glad that video helped you. That particular error can be quite a frightening one if it makes your project go black :/
Wow great explanation and beautiful made images. Very inspiring!!
What a pleasure to read your encouraging comment - thank you, Martin! :)
thank you for the personal rea review! i got it after watching your video about a month ago. thanks!!
That’s awesome! How are you enjoying the lens so far?
The quality of your images is extraordinary congratulations. I'm also shocked how good the image quality of this Lumix 12-60 3.5-5.6 seems to be .. I had the Leica 2.8-4 version once and it never rendered images this sharp altho the colour and contrast was always great.
Thank you :) I’m happy you like the images! Yep, the lumix Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 has some great colour rendering.
I take product photography and I don't want shallow depth of field.
I won't buy lenses that open up to 1.2 or 1.4 or even 1.8 because they aren't much use to me unless I want to get into focus stacking.
My 12-60 f3.5 kit lens is super sharp and although it isn't popping with color, I can easily adjust the saturation and color profiles in post editing software.
Yeah, it’s a decent lens which will get the job done if used correctly and appropriately! Thanks for checking out the video.
Very well explained!
Thank you xx
Great images , thanks for sharing.
Thanks for checking it out :)
Well done!
Thank you :) ☺️
Exciting video. Thank you for this so useful experience and point of view. Great explanation - I am using micro 4/3 as an amateur and still uncertain about the "need" to go to 12-60 Leica (better aperture) instead of the 12-60 lumix to replace my 12-32 lumix (little short in range). I think the focal of 12-60 is very versatile and would be good as a traveling lense (+ prime lenses - i own 20mm 1.7 pana and 45mm 1.7 olympus - which one(s) to keep for low light conditions for indoor / people shooting for instance). Great video
So sorry for the late response :) Did you end up choosing a lens?
@@NatalieRosellaBoonzaier Hello. Thank you for your time ! No, I am still with 12-32 lumix and 20 and 45 prime lenses. I still struggle a little bit to decide or not to go for more versatile but efficient zoom (12-40 olympus pro 2.8 seems a great lense also especially to be an almost all in one lense even in low light conditions or indoor, is very suitable for travel without worrying about switching lenses too much). Too many choices at various prices. My main drawback is that my 20mm pany is really slow to focus (but quality is perfect for me). At same time, are my honnest level, i hardly find difference in image quality between some prime lenses and standard zoom... Except depht of field and ability to keep ISO low with prime. So not a real question (sorry for long message) but i am interested in your feedback if you wish. Regards
Subscribed! What a nice video
Aw, I am so happy you think so. Thank you for subscribing :) I’ve taken a small break from video uploads to think through the channel and videos but will be back pretty soon 😀
@@NatalieRosellaBoonzaier be back very soon!
I instead sold the Leica for the Lumix. Lighter. perhaps a little less three-dimensional but more contrasty, but then again... lighter and with a splendid G90 it's a perfect marriage. I preferred to invest in the LLeica 25 1.4. Best regards
Good choice! :)
Two things about this video.
1. I had to subscribe midway through the video because wow, why not?
2. Maybe this review has just convinced me to get the 12-60mm but I'm curious if I need to return my Panasonic 45-150mm or keep both. Whats the best advice?
Firstly, thank you for subscribing - I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Secondly, I think only you know whether you will benefit from keeping or returning your 45-150mm. It totally depends on the type of photography that you intend to practice down the line. I wish there was a concrete answer I could give - but it's completely dependent on you :) Did you pay a decent price for your 45-150mm? Are you happy with it?
@@NatalieRosellaBoonzaier thank you so much for the reply. The journey for photography for me is mostly an hobby. I'll be shooting landscapes, portraits and just general travel photography. I got the Lumix g7 about a week ago and decided to buy the 45-150mm which at this point feels more like what I only need on fewer occasions. That's where my question is coming from.
Thank You. Thank You. Thank You for making this video and sharing your perspective. Is it the best lens....no. IMO, it is certainly above average and gets the job done. Like you say, learn how to work its limitations and the results are spectacular. Lazy photographers/video creators love to hate on this lens when they see the aperture specs. I am all about poor man's process, as it often yields some pretty chuffing good results in the end.
I agree with you fully! I am so happy to have experienced this lens first! Makes the upgrades soo worthwhile and fulfilling:)
Thank you so much 👍🏾👍🏾
nicly said, thanks
Thanks!
Hi , just came across your video, excellent btw. I’m looking into buying my first camera for photography, I’m just trying to take better pictures other than using my phone. Would you say that the G9 is better than the G85? Cuz I can get the G9 with the 12-60 3.5-5.6 for under $1000 …..or do you think a Sony a6100 would be a better choice.
Thank you for your help 🙏
Hi Luis, sadly I can’t advise you on cameras because I have no experience with any of those cameras you mention. I can say that the 12-60mm f/3.5-5.6 is a versatile lens for sure.
Thank you for checking out the video. I’m glad you liked it. Let me know what decisión you make in the end.
PS- i am half Morán :)
I bought a pre-owned gh4 with lumix 12-60mm f3.5 i want to venture into wedding and music videography do you think the gh4 will be up for the task?
I think that if you do all that you can to get to know your camera, that it will hold up great. If I am not mistaken, Nigel Barros has done work with the GH4. So you might want to check out that channel too.
Best of luck with your GH4 - keep me posted on how things go!
@@NatalieRosellaBoonzaier much appreciated for the reply will surely keep you posted all the way and thank you very much. let me check out the channel for @Nigel
Hi Natalie. I have the G80 with the 12-60mm lens. I am really struggling with soft and blurry images with lens where I can't seem to get decent focus. I've tried this on AF as well as manual focus. I shoot landscape photography only and I'm just really struggling to get sharp and focused images. I dont understand why I'm struggling so much with this lens. Any advice would be really appreciated
Oh no. I can’t advise you on this because the problems can vary from firmware updates of your camera and lens, to contacts, or there might be dirt in your mount. Do you have other lenses to determine whether it’s the lens of camera? Sounds like you might have a faulty lens, especially if you can’t focus manually. I’m so sorry I can’t help you with this.
I've had similar issues with the 14-140. Things that helped me were:
- Updating the firmware on the G80.
- Making sure image stabilization is properly selected and switched on manually on the lens itself (my 14-140 has this idk about the 12-60)
- Sometimes I was too close to subjects and zoomed in to much. It can only focus until a certain point.
- In the beginning I also wasn't aware of the focus ring and how to use it properly to focus manually
- There is also the matter of shutter speed, it blurring the movement and if to fast shaking of the camera will create blur
- Maybe you also have focusing enabled that triggers when you press the shutter button. I'd suggest looking into back button focusing instead
- Lighting and the play between shutter speed and aperture matters a lot
- Look into the peaking as well as the pinpoint AF display setting
- Watching plenty of tutorials, getting to know the camera better and trying out different things
- There's a website that goes through every setting and what it does exactly
If this is your first camera maybe this is useful to you. I would say that most likely your lack of experience is why your images aren't sharp. Getting to know the camera, it's capabilities and limitations is important. It's simply a learning experience. I am sure you will get your focus right in no time and enjoy your camera a lot more : )
Suparb 👌
Which camera would be good for making videos? Help me...
I use the GH5 and don't have experience with other cameras.
I had 12-60mm F2.8 Leica, can you make a review too?
I sure can! I will get a few months experience with it first but I might put up a preview video before then because it is a fantastic lens and the difference is tremendous 👌
I don't really believe in professional lenses vs. amateur or entry level lenses as far as a measure of artistry. Photography is much like painting and making music, and you can find yourself worrying way too much about the price points of your tools..when what matters is your vision and visual story telling ability. I purposely enjoy buying used vintage lenses that cost pennies but have their different character and qualities. I have very expensive camaras, and pricey lenses with high aperture qualities, and..well...they perform very nice for what they do....and yet some of my best photos have been shot on my cheap Olympus M10 mkiii walk around camara with a kit lens. I love chasing the gear, and reading about the newest features and quality lenses, but at the end of the day..great photography can be done very affordabley and alot of these things you think you need and manufacturers tell you need...are myths.