Great video editing. HOWEVER.... Important safety checkup was not properly done. -The helmet and pfd strap were way too loose. -The "pee zip" was not fully closed. -Knife was missing on the pfd. These verification should have been done by the two instructors, each time Pakob got into the water. They both never inspect him properly and any time. In addition, all the crew near the scene should have wear a safety helmet, not just only a pfd and baseball cap. People are laughing at Pakob, but in fact, they should be laughing at the poor inspection from the instructors. Nice video, but took it to relax... Not impressed.
It's easy to back seat quarterback. I assure you that Dalan and crew are very well prepared and instruction is clear and precise. What's sad is that people like you think you know everything about what's being instructed. Knife on the pfd? How about trauma shears? It's been my experience that was instructed to me that a knife is OK, however, a knife can't cut through fishing wire, I belive it being called spider wire, and not the typical nylon line. That applies to when I dive. I take both. Sadly, your statement makes you invalid imo as someone who supposedly is a subject matter expert. I assure you that Dalan knows what's going on. I happened to have met and have been instructed by Dalan during my time in the fire service and we also have mutual friends, and I assure you he's top notch.
Hi @@11b3xds, first, I did a mistake in my comment (switching Dalan name with Pakob, I just edited it). I'm sorry, I know I look like a back seat quarterback, can't blame you on that! I'm sure Dalan and his team are well prepared/trained. This was a small/easy scenario for them with overkill safety backup ressources. However, nobody can argue that they failed to properly inspect and equip the newbie. Was there a significant risk for Dalan? Not at all, but that's not the point I try to make. FYI, the trauma shears are not suitable for whitewater situation because you need a cutting device that can be access and operate with one hand in moving water and no visibility. If your other hand is entangle by a rope, you need your free hand to pickup your knife and cut the rope. In a fast current, the rope can be impossible to remove otherwise and your harm might be impossible to bend due to the very high tension. You might consider having the two tools, but at least the whitewater knife outside the pfd. Let me brag about myself... I'm a 20y experience whitewater kayak instructor + whitewater rescue instructor and former mine rescue technician (firefighter/first responders/hazmat/ice) and former divemaster. It is generally accepted that if you are a little loose on safety/inspection/protocol in practice scenarios, it will increase your risk to cut corners in a real situation. This is typical of the firefighters and police organisations, but not so much for the paramedics/ambulance (I don't know why?). Alexandre
Bill Moore back seat quarterback ? If your going to make a water safety instruction video you better have your shit wired tight if not then don't pretend to be an authority on a subject and post on u tube. The criticisms pointed out Alexander are valid and I note pointed out by another commenter as well. Can't take the heat get out of the kitchen especially when your supposed to be highly qualified instructor.
@@11b3xds As another instructor here, the criticism regarding the crew missing the loose helmet is valid. The crew has skills tbs but slacked off just a bit on oversight. Someone should have made the correction during the training.
@@seaotter52 Helmet strap tightness and pfd straps were the first thing we went over on my recent whitewater beginner canoe lessons. For a video as 'intense' as this, it does seem like a big oversight.
Good job guys getting information out to the public. Take the criticism with a grain of salt and let the perfect hatters, well hate, You guys did a great job with the info and the video was nice as well. Nothing ever goes 100% as planned. If it did people wouldn’t be in those situations. Thank you for sharing.
@@gotahgemini6415 @Gotah Gemini I guess it depends who you ask. I know the instructor for the last class i took has no problem teaching civilians as long as its a large class. check out wet planet whitewater, their classes look cheap and per person.
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good vid, altho surprised the instructor didnt tell Pakob to tighten his helmet strap properly
Great video editing. HOWEVER....
Important safety checkup was not properly done.
-The helmet and pfd strap were way too loose.
-The "pee zip" was not fully closed.
-Knife was missing on the pfd.
These verification should have been done by the two instructors, each time Pakob got into the water. They both never inspect him properly and any time.
In addition, all the crew near the scene should have wear a safety helmet, not just only a pfd and baseball cap.
People are laughing at Pakob, but in fact, they should be laughing at the poor inspection from the instructors.
Nice video, but took it to relax... Not impressed.
It's easy to back seat quarterback. I assure you that Dalan and crew are very well prepared and instruction is clear and precise.
What's sad is that people like you think you know everything about what's being instructed.
Knife on the pfd? How about trauma shears? It's been my experience that was instructed to me that a knife is OK, however, a knife can't cut through fishing wire, I belive it being called spider wire, and not the typical nylon line. That applies to when I dive. I take both.
Sadly, your statement makes you invalid imo as someone who supposedly is a subject matter expert. I assure you that Dalan knows what's going on. I happened to have met and have been instructed by Dalan during my time in the fire service and we also have mutual friends, and I assure you he's top notch.
Hi @@11b3xds, first, I did a mistake in my comment (switching Dalan name with Pakob, I just edited it).
I'm sorry, I know I look like a back seat quarterback, can't blame you on that!
I'm sure Dalan and his team are well prepared/trained.
This was a small/easy scenario for them with overkill safety backup ressources.
However, nobody can argue that they failed to properly inspect and equip the newbie.
Was there a significant risk for Dalan? Not at all, but that's not the point I try to make.
FYI, the trauma shears are not suitable for whitewater situation because you need a cutting device that can be access and operate with one hand in moving water and no visibility. If your other hand is entangle by a rope, you need your free hand to pickup your knife and cut the rope. In a fast current, the rope can be impossible to remove otherwise and your harm might be impossible to bend due to the very high tension. You might consider having the two tools, but at least the whitewater knife outside the pfd.
Let me brag about myself...
I'm a 20y experience whitewater kayak instructor + whitewater rescue instructor and former mine rescue technician (firefighter/first responders/hazmat/ice) and former divemaster.
It is generally accepted that if you are a little loose on safety/inspection/protocol in practice scenarios, it will increase your risk to cut corners in a real situation.
This is typical of the firefighters and police organisations, but not so much for the paramedics/ambulance (I don't know why?).
Alexandre
Bill Moore back seat quarterback ? If your going to make a water safety instruction video you better have your shit wired tight if not then don't pretend to be an authority on a subject and post on u tube. The criticisms pointed out Alexander are valid and I note pointed out by another commenter as well. Can't take the heat get out of the kitchen especially when your supposed to be highly qualified instructor.
@@11b3xds
As another instructor here, the criticism regarding the crew missing the loose helmet is valid. The crew has skills tbs but slacked off just a bit on oversight. Someone should have made the correction during the training.
@@seaotter52 Helmet strap tightness and pfd straps were the first thing we went over on my recent whitewater beginner canoe lessons. For a video as 'intense' as this, it does seem like a big oversight.
Good job guys getting information out to the public. Take the criticism with a grain of salt and let the perfect hatters, well hate, You guys did a great job with the info and the video was nice as well. Nothing ever goes 100% as planned. If it did people wouldn’t be in those situations. Thank you for sharing.
Great information to know. Fine job to Dalan and his crew.
Who is Dale? Is there others videos of Dale and his crew?
They ever going to repair Eastwood park since it collapsed?
thanks for this vid very much appreciated
"DON'T EVER GIVE UP!!"
Good grief turn the music down
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Just had my first level 1 water rescue class two more two go... Man i need to swim more 😂
Just think, eventually we will be replaced with drones.
The amount of TRT the guy hosting this has in him he looks like he would sink like an anchor.
More like "The below average guy".
So civilians can enroll and take this course or no?
yes
@@popeye9995sp really? I had a different reply many months ago that it was not available to civilians... Have the changed it?
@@gotahgemini6415 @Gotah Gemini I guess it depends who you ask. I know the instructor for the last class i took has no problem teaching civilians as long as its a large class. check out wet planet whitewater, their classes look cheap and per person.
@@popeye9995sp thanks!
Lost me at drowning being a "global diaster" Drowning is NOT a frigging disaster. Drowning is a failure to swim. One can easily drown in the bathtub.