*After some further info being given to me from a Bucc main, I would now after the video has been recorded move them up to C tier. Just a heads up for anyone making decisions on what class they want to make.
bucc got shafted so hard by the artale devs. They resent buccs existence and were just bothered that they had to include the effort of adding bucc. So many features in the class are just straight up missing. Artale was put out long before it was done cooking, and bucc was the softest, wettest dough in the undone cake. feels bad man.
No I-frames on attacks including corkscrew punch, backspin blow, dragon strike, barrage, demolition, and shockwave No stance or damage reflect when energy charge is filled Crazy long startup lag on double uppercut pirate in general lacking equip variety = less drops = less good gear rolled MP recovery is not autobuffable, meaning you have to press the skill every 25 seconds if you want it to be useful to save money, can't cast on ladder Oak barrel has a % chance to block one hit, can't cast on ladder, and the casting animation is so long that by the time its done you're out of hit invincibility, so its very inefficient in in training. Sommersalt kick is a good move, and it isn't outclassed by other mobbing options until you're like level 125 Fun tax at 2nd job requiring 30-33 to be spent on max HP skill to be optimal Shockwave, a level 70 skill that you also can only use when transformed, is so slow to cast that it is outclassed by sommersalt kick, a move you get at level 10 Energy charge is the only skill out of all the 3rd job classes that requires 40 SP to master. This was also the case in osms so I guess I can't complain too much about that, but still. Transform doesn't give a speed/jump boost Now, there were some buffs given to bucc. Here they are Many skills can be cast faster. Backspin blow is much faster than osms, this is also true of corkscrew blow. This makes them much more fun to use while grinding. Many more skills can be used during transformation. Such as backspin & corkscrew, & others. This makes transformation better and not as limiting Stun mastery now includes a flat 10% increase in boss damage At maximum level super transform, the cooldown between casts is equal to the amount of time the transform lasts. This means you can stay in super transformation Energy charge builds faster now, and can be filled up very quickly. Energy charge skill gives its passive +10 attack at level 1 rather than level 4 It's clear that they were trying to help things out with bucc, but the class is just unfinished. I believe that the artale devs are doing their best, and things can be improved, plus the game has been out for just under a month. There's plenty of time for things to be improved. The class does feel like it was at the complete bottom of their priority list, though, and the outlook is not hopeful that buccaneer will be given a significant amount of attention in the near future.
I agree I think the the person who is making this video need more information and better explanation on each of these classes the only thing I can agree on is those S tiers are 100% accurate spearman, Sins, and clerics are very broken in old school maple the rest needs to be organized lol 😂
Putting xbowman in C-tier, but gunslinger in A-tier is a crime. They're easily both B-tier. Both will be great bossers at 4th job, but are not super fantastic in 3rd. Gunslinger struggles heavily 1st and 2nd job, whereas xbowman struggles during 1st job, and is pretty good the rest of the time.
not to mention arrow bomb stuns every monster unlike freeze, you get it in 2nd job where you aren't starving for SP unlike 3rd, the fact that blue metus is obtainable...
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*After some further info being given to me from a Bucc main, I would now after the video has been recorded move them up to C tier. Just a heads up for anyone making decisions on what class they want to make.
What was the further info
@@salvokai Yeah we kinda want the info lmao
@@salvokai the damage that was being output mid 2nd job
I can't tell what the classes are from just the pictures rip
Would be nice to see chat as well thank uiu
alrighty will do
bucc got shafted so hard by the artale devs. They resent buccs existence and were just bothered that they had to include the effort of adding bucc. So many features in the class are just straight up missing. Artale was put out long before it was done cooking, and bucc was the softest, wettest dough in the undone cake. feels bad man.
No I-frames on attacks including corkscrew punch, backspin blow, dragon strike, barrage, demolition, and shockwave
No stance or damage reflect when energy charge is filled
Crazy long startup lag on double uppercut
pirate in general lacking equip variety = less drops = less good gear rolled
MP recovery is not autobuffable, meaning you have to press the skill every 25 seconds if you want it to be useful to save money, can't cast on ladder
Oak barrel has a % chance to block one hit, can't cast on ladder, and the casting animation is so long that by the time its done you're out of hit invincibility, so its very inefficient in in training.
Sommersalt kick is a good move, and it isn't outclassed by other mobbing options until you're like level 125
Fun tax at 2nd job requiring 30-33 to be spent on max HP skill to be optimal
Shockwave, a level 70 skill that you also can only use when transformed, is so slow to cast that it is outclassed by sommersalt kick, a move you get at level 10
Energy charge is the only skill out of all the 3rd job classes that requires 40 SP to master. This was also the case in osms so I guess I can't complain too much about that, but still.
Transform doesn't give a speed/jump boost
Now, there were some buffs given to bucc. Here they are
Many skills can be cast faster. Backspin blow is much faster than osms, this is also true of corkscrew blow. This makes them much more fun to use while grinding.
Many more skills can be used during transformation. Such as backspin & corkscrew, & others. This makes transformation better and not as limiting
Stun mastery now includes a flat 10% increase in boss damage
At maximum level super transform, the cooldown between casts is equal to the amount of time the transform lasts. This means you can stay in super transformation
Energy charge builds faster now, and can be filled up very quickly.
Energy charge skill gives its passive +10 attack at level 1 rather than level 4
It's clear that they were trying to help things out with bucc, but the class is just unfinished. I believe that the artale devs are doing their best, and things can be improved, plus the game has been out for just under a month. There's plenty of time for things to be improved. The class does feel like it was at the complete bottom of their priority list, though, and the outlook is not hopeful that buccaneer will be given a significant amount of attention in the near future.
Bucc looks fine at D tier. Their gameplay is clunky because s were removed. Their short range also means the janky physics mess them up really badly.
This video is a train wreck - messy thoughts, nearly 45 minutes, and weak reasoning.
I agree I think the the person who is making this video need more information and better explanation on each of these classes the only thing I can agree on is those S tiers are 100% accurate spearman, Sins, and clerics are very broken in old school maple the rest needs to be organized lol 😂
Ok, ill try to do better next time :) thanks for the feedback.
There isn't that much of a gap between crossbowmen and bowmen.
Putting xbowman in C-tier, but gunslinger in A-tier is a crime. They're easily both B-tier. Both will be great bossers at 4th job, but are not super fantastic in 3rd. Gunslinger struggles heavily 1st and 2nd job, whereas xbowman struggles during 1st job, and is pretty good the rest of the time.
i would say give priest a S+ Tier list and its fine.
Strafe has no been altered in USA Artale
Can confirm Bucc feels awful… sadness.
does hero compete with dk/pld after 4th job release? or do they still get kinda shafted
yeah, hero probably on par DPS/mobbing wise with brandish
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43 minutes to discuss12 classes? Oh hell nah.
Crossbow 2 points ahead because of 1 skill? 🤔
not to mention arrow bomb stuns every monster unlike freeze, you get it in 2nd job where you aren't starving for SP unlike 3rd, the fact that blue metus is obtainable...
0 chance ice lighting is above ranger
gunslinger is F , that voc sucks.
this is the worst tier LIST LMAO
Aw I'm sorry, May I ask what you would change and why? thanks in advance.
@@CptKappaMS obv his main was listed as not S tier, therefore, trash tier list