I live in Jamaica and have a 94 Discovery 1, 200tdi, which I love. I don't play games with it like these guys, though. It's a work vehicle, not a toy. Can't afford to destroy it by being foolish.
legend has it, that the rest of the off roaders are sitting around the fire at night and tell stories of the legendary adventures of the G-class and the Defender, jealous that they can't even come close
@@drueskillz Jeep is good on mud because of the light weight, as is the Jimny. Defender is in a class of its own because of chassis, axles and brutal torque curve of diesel engines..
Adam Chabni. Basically those tires seemed over pressurized they need minimal air pressure than their normal pressure. In doing so It'd improve wider tire footprint for better grip and will also reduce vehicles bouncing uncontrollably. BTW Nice video. "Land Rover!"
While the low-end gearing is there on both of these two SUV's, it all boils down to tires, tires, and tires (type of tires and the right pressure for them in tackling such)
We had a Land Rover- sold it because it was always in the shop Broken that- leaking this- electronics not working right- Bad sensors- got rid of it right after the warranty expired Have had a G class Mercedes since Only 1 issue - 1 bad spark plug Otherwise just oil changes and brake pads and usual service Now 10 years old-347,108 miles runs great to this day We take it off-road monthly in the desert of CA- no freeway baby miles- No driveway Queen- She was up to her steps in mud two weeks ago and did great! Sold On Benz!
i would have to say the defender is the best simply because of the alluminium body and it being simple and cheap to fix compaired to the merc, although both are great 4x4's
Fergus 110 no, it was just the better driver. what does a defender have that a G doesnt have? then again a G has 3 diff locks and more power, a Defender doesnt
Fergus 110 heritage? Thats a plus point for the G, it is hand made and still produced in austria, graz. And the design? A defender looks cool, but so does the g
@ZionW0lf That's one of the things that i was saying. The G has a more powerful engine and i think the driver stepped on it a bit too hard and that is why it lost traction and spun its wheels instead of getting up the first time just as the Defender did.
Of course it is. This is what a Audi does to a Defender: ruclips.net/video/lTSd0iIYLlE/видео.html In a G Wagon you wouldn't even notice you're pulling a Defender...even in the Caribbean Islands ;)
The Landy has raised suspension which as you can see, is a major hindrence to it climbing. Also has bead lockers to stop tyres being torn off..but neither modification helps with the climbing.
not just the tires, the lifted clearance raises center of gravity, so i believe a non modified vehicle of the same types could have made it easier, with only proper "not over sized" tires
Both trucks make it to the top of the obstacle, but the Land Rover does it with less fuss, and on the second attempt. Also the Land Rover looks like it has raised suspension, which will not help on a hill like this, as it raises the centre of gravity.
Funny how those, like HG, who could never afford a good car, say stupid things! LR is voted the N° 1 car in the world by one or other of the comparison sites almost every year. The Merc - if like the oneI had is just fit for the scrapyard; and, it is not only the driver but 90% of the success is the tyres. The film shows the difference. The LR Traction control is the best in the world. Sorry HG
mafiatour it depends on a lot of factors. i own a 290gd with short wheelbase which makes any other 4x4 look pretty bad. in this case the g class driver was being an idiot
Richard Leaver I hate to disappoint you but I have personally experienced a climb in a Range Rover Sport that was just as difficult. Put a good set of off-road tires on a Range Rover and it will go anywhere either of these two can go. The only people that deny that fact are people that don't know Land Rover very well. I have been off-roading with both and can tell you the stock Range Rover is probably actually more capable when compared to a stock Defender mainly due to it's superior traction control system.
Don't worry, wasn't knocking a Rangy Swampfox, If you look at my channel you'll see the wife has a Freelander 2 HSE, superb machine !, what I meant was, I'd just like to see an 80k Rangy turn up at that moment and take the piss out of every thing else trying to climb that, we both know you could put two of it's wheels on ice on that slope and it would probably still pick it's way up. We went on the Land Rover day out near Skipton, North Yorks when we got the Freelander, they put me on a slope with both it's passenger side wheels on rollers then they said set off again, after a second or two it figured there was something a miss down one side and put all it's power to the drivers side wheels and simply climbed the rest of the hill, stock Landy with stock tyres
Lets see the truth: this more then 70 years old Landrover- construction is better on field than this new Mercedes G. Other example: Mercedes Smart. A construction from a Swiss engineer, sold to Mercedes with the hope this would be the new and best electric car in the world. Cheap business for Mercedes but they are not able to construct an electric car. (I shame: first car, first car engine, first electric engine from Siemens etc. they are all Germans). To my person: I drive a Landrover Defender and I'm a German.
Ok so you quit playing Minecraft 5 months ago, I'm sorry that I jumped to a conclusion. For what it is worth, if we were to go wheeling I would hold off on the body work and paint until afterward. But it doesn't matter, none of it. Don't be embarrassed for being a youngster because every adult was young at one time. Just don't think you know it all like my teenaged son. Heck, nobody knows everything...
(1) They are better in the way you can beat shit out them. Your fancy LR is good only when the dealership and tow-trucks are nearby... The reselling price for LR is unimaginable... For example 2000-2004 LR with 100K miles costs $2K-$3K in a perfect condition. When The cars I mentioned before with the same mileage and age cost $5-$10 sometimes even higher... Why is that? People just get tired fixing the shitty LRs...
Toyota still makes FJ, Tacoma, 4Runner. Nissan still makes Pathfinder, X-Terra. Jeep still makes Wrangler. All these cars will eat Brand new LRs for breakfast. Taking your brand new LR from a dealership to a few mountain holes is not off roading. Beating a shit out of the vehicle that's off roading. If yo like Jeremy ok, he himself said that British cars suck in reliability... One more time, I respect LR for its history, but now it's just a history. There ARE better 4x4 now...
I don't ask you to agree or disagree. I saw new yotas, nissans, jeeps making circles around stuck/broken LRs. It's too much stuff in them to brake and it's unacceptable for sport vehicle whether it's made for a speed track or off road track. Plus the price is TOO high for an off road buggy plus the maintenance is TOO pricey for an off road buggy plus the mods are limited. Can a new LR climb rocks? Well I can talk about it forever. Don't even start it. I respect a 30 yo LR, but it's over now.
LR does not make off roaders any more... They WERE making great legendary 4x4s long time ago but not any more... LR is now all about luxury. Put a new LR next to a new Jeep, Toyota or Nissan in a real world off road conditions and it will fall apart. The era of LRs as great off roaders has ended last century... Well to be honest the 4x4 sport is dying. It was times when almost every company was making good 4x4s. Now there's just few of them....
@2bornottoby My new opinion is (you should nevver stop to leanr): the G has the better AWD-System (Permament+three lockers+2nd transmission) - the landy is the same except for the lockers (only mid-diff lock). The landy usually has the better offroad-suspension keeping all wheels perfectly on the ground for a long time, while the G-Suspension is much stiffer. In this vid you compared a G500 with a V8 to landy with 2.x engine - so the G is MUCH heavier. i'd prefer a G270 instead
NL land army: Mercedes, our Royal Navy: Land Rover 110 XD's: experience in the sandy dunes: marines in LR 110's: no problem running around (standard), Mercedes (loaded also) stuck mostly; after at least 2 wheel/ tire combinations + diff locks could do the same. Weight distribution is key: LR front axle remains about same load while vehicle is fully loaded; Mercedes LWBase: rear axle pos effectively increases front ax load: earlier stuck.
@acetrucks1 are you trying to piss me off? or have you really no idea? The Land Rover brand started its existence when the Rover company build the LAND ROVER as a 4wd multi purpose vehicle in the 50's or so. It was based on the jeep willis and built with aluminium leftovers from ww2. As the Range Rover and the Land Rover Discovery came along and they went on selling their first model as the Defender. I have really no idea why im wasting time and effort to tell you this when you can google it.
@acetrucks1 im sure that you mean that everybody turns land rovers and not Gs into offroaders because they are less expensive. Did you know the G was designed for some arabian army back in the 70's or so?. The Defender already existed back then. So if it was SUCH a good car, why did they ask mercedes to build another one especially for them and not buy the existing and MUCH cheaper Defender? You only need to fit a good set of tyres to it and the G will offroad and very rarely break down.
even though the land rover did get up the hill, i think the G is still the better offroader. Just look how bouncy the land rover is => it could not have gone up faster even if the engine performed better. The G has way better suspension. much smoother. Then the G couldn't climb so slowly i think because of higher torque that caused it to lose grip. Also the G's driver's foot seems a bit heavy.
Whats that suppose to mean? Just because I played Minecraft at one time means I can't off road my truck? I never took any videos of that because I don't have a decent video camera, and to be honest it was never all that interesting. My disco needs body work, a new coat of paint, and gets atrocious MGPs, so I'm trying to replace it as my daily driver.
Resale is a little more than double that, at least around here. The parts are hard to find and expensive, and they do require a little extra maintenance. So the resale value going to be lower, its the same with some Porsches and other high-end vehicles. They're worth it though, IMO. I'd much rather be rollin' in my disco than some dumbass Toyota.
Respond to this video... Big difference in the countries metalhead, U can't even compare the two one is German the other is now built by Tata motors in India but carries a european nameplate.. Regardless of where the vehicles are built the benz is far superior.. I say this because my family is German.
@cageordie Rats, meant most places, not cases. In the US a 93 110 is $60k+ saw one for %78k the other day and the cheapest 95 90 was $29,500. What in God's name are these people... oh, it's the protectionist import laws. UNIMOGs are cheaper than Defenders in the US!
@qwadboy true Tata owns them but their is still no comparison, I have ridden in both and driven the G superior all the way.. Of course your going to say they are similar if your English and work at Land rover ask a German that know's their vehicles which is better..
If you will buy land rover in ndderland i will buy G i neddrland and tomorow we will go to Ukraina i will be thre in 20h and You will probably not come becosue you will be in hospital whit broken back .
I ised to own a defender. It was rubbish, yeah they are good off road but fail in every other respect, badly made, chassis rots, uncomfortable you need the window open to drive it, so unreliable and way over priced, i have a fourtrak now, far better 4x4 in every respect
@Gris110 Based on this video, where do yo see the defender is better? Disregarding the fact that the defender is heavily modded too, maybe it's just the driver? No doubt that both cars are great offroaders, but price is no argument when you're out there
The comparison is not quite fair. The Landi had better tyres plus modified suspension. I think with the Landy-tyres the G would have gone up the hill the first time.
non mi sembra sia una differenza di mezzi ma piu' che altro di pilota sultano la studis essendo il primo tu invece la prendi subito piu' cattiva e sali prima
Are you for real saying the defender had better tyres ! The G had simex jungle trekers that are double the price and then some of the kumho kl71 on defender !
both are great off road cars but for me G classe is the best and the king off road ever and for me Mercedes is the best cars technicaly speak My opinion is like this : 1.G classe the best off road car ever see 2. S classe the best luxurious limousine ever made 3.Amg GT S, SLS AMG and SLR best supercars
if you want a modified mercedes g: the swiss armed forced will sell all of them (about 20'000 i think). very good stuff, i was driving one as i was in the army.
Too bad for the G. The newer one stands a better chance if they we're to retake that again but still, Land Rover Defender has been around since 1960's (?) and yet it can still beat or match modern day cars. Go DEFENDER
the G had better tires but shorter wheel base.the defender had sucky tires but had a little longer wheel base.the defender won because of that,great truck
The G is apparently much heavier than the Defender, hence unable to climb up the hills. If in other tests, the G will be better than the Defender, depending.
yo creo que esa subida engaña. a mi me paso lo mismo. en una subida que hicimos en el video no se aprecia. pero ninguno la pudimos subir a la primera. la gente me decia, que si no la habia atacado bien y tonterias. solo digo que cuando la vimos, pensamos en darnos la vuelta. conclusion: el video no hace justicia. como me gustaria un mercedes G para mi garaje
Never understood why Landy owners but hi-lift kits on. It does nothing for ground clearance, and moves the centre of gravity upwards, the opposite of what you want when offroading. It's a completely negative mod on that vehicle.
Judging by your videos, you're actually not as far away as you could be. Not that far at all relatively speaking, but right now I'm trying to start a career. I've got street tires on my truck right now, being unemployed I can't afford gas getting that far north much less a repair if my rover decided to break. I've got a pipe dream of sticking a Defender body on that disco frame one day, maybe then. :P
In the Late 1970's when Persia (Iran) was ruled by the Shah he was the main share holder in Mercedes Benz, as there was a revolution in the making the shah wanted a reliable and versatile vehicle that was not only reliable and comfortable but one that could be easily adapted for military use and all the variations needed. Then in 1978 the G wagen was in production built by hand in Austria. You either love them or hate them ! Most people who have 4x4's don't even go off road so shouldn't comme
@ZoracYTManager Engine size/power isn't entirely immaterial, esp on hills. "Power hill" isn't just an American concept. More torque would allow the use of a higher gear (low 2nd/3rd) which would help suppress wheelspin on the ascent. A 500cc engine would have to be geared so low that there'd be "zilch" energy/momentum & traction would be lost pretty much @ the base
@bastianfrom77 suspension set up here makes no difference, articulation is only beneficial climbing over rocks and elephants footsteps to my eyes, the G classes tires were much more agressive. personally I'd think that tall tires and raised suspension on stuff as steep as that looks like it makes it more dangerous as you're gonna be bouncing about much more. seeing as he G has diff loks all round, it should have wooped the Landy, but I guess it's just much heavier.
G has three diff locks landy only one so the G should have been better but it all comes down to driver skill and tyres , tyres make up 50% of off road ability , you can have $150k Range Rover on normal tyres and a $5k Wrangler on mud terrains and the wrangler will slaughter the Range Rover off road even if your a crap driver .
Il G ed il Patrol sono molto pesanti: sui ramponi questo crea qualche problema. Altra faccenda è la robustezza: il peso in più c'è per qualche motivo...
I think the Landie does better because the G is over power, so difficult for the driver to control the wheel spin when hitting too much accelerator, while the landie driver just floor it and the power is just nice.
defender wasnt stock and was lighter. also the tires had propably better tire pressure. there is no reason a defender would defeat a G. G classes have three differential locks, a defender has one. G is superior, no matter how much shit the guys in the comment section talk.
Landrover iv been using them for years and they have been tough as old boots reliable and go anywhere.. Nuff said
I live in Jamaica and have a 94 Discovery 1, 200tdi, which I love. I don't play games with it like these guys, though. It's a work vehicle, not a toy. Can't afford to destroy it by being foolish.
legend has it, that the rest of the off roaders are sitting around the fire at night and tell stories of the legendary adventures of the G-class and the Defender, jealous that they can't even come close
not even in a million years to come
Ahahah no way!
Lmfao.... Yeah right
Jeep will kick its ass all day.
@@drueskillz Jeep is good on mud because of the light weight, as is the Jimny. Defender is in a class of its own because of chassis, axles and brutal torque curve of diesel engines..
And DEFENDER! wins again!
Defenders just defy gravity!
Both great 4x4's
Defender is a third the price of a G-Wagon though which makes it a bargain, in relative terms.
I own an AMG. Agree with your statement. That said, the same came be said for the US Jeep Wrangler
The SUZUKI JIMNY at a third of the cost of the cheaper of these two vehicles, would put them both to shame!ruclips.net/video/GE2W93FBdo8/видео.html
The old Landrover costs 50K less with at least 300 less HP and still got up with less fuss
My thoughts!
@Leonidis78 its not its been painted like that
@Leonidis78 i know that i have 4 personal cars nvm the ones my dad has for the business
@Nicolás Löwy defenders dont break, range rovers do.
it's about the driver skills not the car! both are awesome legendary cars
+Adam Chabni but defender is better...
Adam Chabni what drive skill?to go just with acceleration?
Adam Chabni yes it's all about, driver skills, car preformens and tires
Adam Chabni. Basically those tires seemed over pressurized they need minimal air pressure than their normal pressure. In doing so It'd improve wider tire footprint for better grip and will also reduce vehicles bouncing uncontrollably. BTW Nice video. "Land Rover!"
Yaaa but to some extent car too
While the low-end gearing is there on both of these two SUV's, it all boils down to tires, tires, and tires (type of tires and the right pressure for them in tackling such)
It boils down to ground clearance, diff locks and the skill of the driver. And tyres.
@Schwanzus Longus The G isn't better in all of these, it is a match at best.
I seriously did not think that anything could have made it up that slope. Unbelievable. Lockers for the win.
We had a Land Rover- sold it because it was always in the shop
Broken that- leaking this- electronics not working right-
Bad sensors- got rid of it right after the warranty expired
Have had a G class Mercedes since
Only 1 issue - 1 bad spark plug
Otherwise just oil changes and brake pads and usual service
Now 10 years old-347,108 miles runs great to this day
We take it off-road monthly in the desert of CA- no freeway baby miles-
No driveway Queen-
She was up to her steps in mud two weeks ago and did great!
Sold On Benz!
i would have to say the defender is the best simply because of the alluminium body and it being simple and cheap to fix compaired to the merc, although both are great 4x4's
That was a tough test! I didn't think either would make it.
The 110 drove down the G slid down
Don't question the defender's victory. It is better
Fergus 110 no, it was just the better driver. what does a defender have that a G doesnt have? then again a G has 3 diff locks and more power, a Defender doesnt
How about heritage, not to mention an original design 'cough
Fergus 110 heritage? Thats a plus point for the G, it is hand made and still produced in austria, graz. And the design? A defender looks cool, but so does the g
that defender wasnt even stock, the g was. also it had better tire pressure
There is a reason why the Nazis lost the war. Such a shame a lot of British manufactures uses Nazi - well German - Tech today.
ye but defenders killed more taliban
+kev defender so true!! hahah
+kev defender The G was blessed by the Pope.
philip s who cares about the pope tho... whats he done for the world other than steal??
+Harry Everett the current Pope is actually doing alot of good. but what do you know. BTW I'm not religious I just said it as a joke.
philip s yeah haha i was saying it as a joke too man
@ZionW0lf That's one of the things that i was saying. The G has a more powerful engine and i think the driver stepped on it a bit too hard and that is why it lost traction and spun its wheels instead of getting up the first time just as the Defender did.
I own both the Mercedes is much more comfortable but the defender has a coolness factor
The land Rover defender is a better vehicle...it's also used by the British military and armed forces in Caribbean islands !
bancroft groves of course its used in england its their car! g class is used in militaries all over the world while the defender isnt
Of course it is. This is what a Audi does to a Defender:
ruclips.net/video/lTSd0iIYLlE/видео.html
In a G Wagon you wouldn't even notice you're pulling a Defender...even in the Caribbean Islands ;)
The Landy has raised suspension which as you can see, is a major hindrence to it climbing. Also has bead lockers to stop tyres being torn off..but neither modification helps with the climbing.
Nice, i would love to Take my series 3 Landy there.
The Gwagen is a very heavy vessel...
Land rover does it at a vast reduction of the cost of a Mercedes....Day in or Day out
not just the tires, the lifted clearance raises center of gravity, so i believe a non modified vehicle of the same types could have made it easier, with only proper "not over sized" tires
The Legend here is Defender. The one who tried to copy the Legend is, the G Wagon. I mean Everyone knows that.
Would love that old school Mercedes G Wagon, looks really good and packs lots of power for offroad trips
Both trucks make it to the top of the obstacle, but the Land Rover does it with less fuss, and on the second attempt.
Also the Land Rover looks like it has raised suspension, which will not help on a hill like this, as it raises the centre of gravity.
Lotusdriver but it still beat the g wagen and didnt need a run up
and no I'm not British but Land Rover is the god of 4x4's ;) that's a fact..
they are two good tough guys, one in an "expensive suit and tie" and the other in "Street Clothes" to do the same job.
Funny how those, like HG, who could never afford a good car, say stupid things! LR is voted the N° 1 car in the world by one or other of the comparison sites almost every year. The Merc - if like the oneI had is just fit for the scrapyard; and, it is not only the driver but 90% of the success is the tyres. The film shows the difference. The LR Traction control is the best in the world.
Sorry HG
Not really a fair video.. The G was way out classed here. Simply no point comparing a Defender with it..
Great driving guys.nice location too btw ;)
Land Rover is better, not saying this because i have one but because it is more practical.., I think!!
mafiatour it depends on a lot of factors. i own a 290gd with short wheelbase which makes any other 4x4 look pretty bad. in this case the g class driver was being an idiot
Love to see an 80k Range Rover pick it's way up there on full auto, driver steer only, would it ?
not without a good set of tyres
Richard Leaver Range Rover, really? it would fall apart before it even arrived there
Richard Leaver I hate to disappoint you but I have personally experienced a climb in a Range Rover Sport that was just as difficult. Put a good set of off-road tires on a Range Rover and it will go anywhere either of these two can go. The only people that deny that fact are people that don't know Land Rover very well. I have been off-roading with both and can tell you the stock Range Rover is probably actually more capable when compared to a stock Defender mainly due to it's superior traction control system.
swampfox1953 maybe but still these new SUVs arent able to handle really hard terrain, ehile these two are
Don't worry, wasn't knocking a Rangy Swampfox, If you look at my channel you'll see the wife has a Freelander 2 HSE, superb machine !, what I meant was, I'd just like to see an 80k Rangy turn up at that moment and take the piss out of every thing else trying to climb that, we both know you could put two of it's wheels on ice on that slope and it would probably still pick it's way up. We went on the Land Rover day out near Skipton, North Yorks when we got the Freelander, they put me on a slope with both it's passenger side wheels on rollers then they said set off again, after a second or two it figured there was something a miss down one side and put all it's power to the drivers side wheels and simply climbed the rest of the hill, stock Landy with stock tyres
Bravo Land Rover!
😂😂 G wagon needed some serious run on
Land Rover is still the king of the mountain, less run on, less ground erosion 💖💖
Old Series Land Rover by looking at the door handles and still kicking modern day cars arses
Military spec doors with old style handles and removable door tops/ sliding windows. Simplicity- no mechanism to break.
Lets see the truth: this more then 70 years old Landrover- construction is better on field than this new Mercedes G. Other example: Mercedes Smart. A construction from a Swiss engineer, sold to Mercedes with the hope this would be the new and best electric car in the world. Cheap business for Mercedes but they are not able to construct an electric car. (I shame: first car, first car engine, first electric engine from Siemens etc. they are all Germans). To my person: I drive a Landrover Defender and I'm a German.
Right at the end the defender stalled?
Ok so you quit playing Minecraft 5 months ago, I'm sorry that I jumped to a conclusion. For what it is worth, if we were to go wheeling I would hold off on the body work and paint until afterward.
But it doesn't matter, none of it. Don't be embarrassed for being a youngster because every adult was young at one time. Just don't think you know it all like my teenaged son. Heck, nobody knows everything...
(1) They are better in the way you can beat shit out them. Your fancy LR is good only when the dealership and tow-trucks are nearby...
The reselling price for LR is unimaginable... For example 2000-2004 LR with 100K miles costs $2K-$3K in a perfect condition. When The cars I mentioned before with the same mileage and age cost $5-$10 sometimes even higher... Why is that? People just get tired fixing the shitty LRs...
Toyota still makes FJ, Tacoma, 4Runner. Nissan still makes Pathfinder, X-Terra. Jeep still makes Wrangler. All these cars will eat Brand new LRs for breakfast. Taking your brand new LR from a dealership to a few mountain holes is not off roading. Beating a shit out of the vehicle that's off roading. If yo like Jeremy ok, he himself said that British cars suck in reliability... One more time, I respect LR for its history, but now it's just a history. There ARE better 4x4 now...
I don't ask you to agree or disagree. I saw new yotas, nissans, jeeps making circles around stuck/broken LRs. It's too much stuff in them to brake and it's unacceptable for sport vehicle whether it's made for a speed track or off road track. Plus the price is TOO high for an off road buggy plus the maintenance is TOO pricey for an off road buggy plus the mods are limited. Can a new LR climb rocks? Well I can talk about it forever. Don't even start it. I respect a 30 yo LR, but it's over now.
LR does not make off roaders any more... They WERE making great legendary 4x4s long time ago but not any more... LR is now all about luxury. Put a new LR next to a new Jeep, Toyota or Nissan in a real world off road conditions and it will fall apart. The era of LRs as great off roaders has ended last century...
Well to be honest the 4x4 sport is dying. It was times when almost every company was making good 4x4s. Now there's just few of them....
@2bornottoby My new opinion is (you should nevver stop to leanr): the G has the better AWD-System (Permament+three lockers+2nd transmission) - the landy is the same except for the lockers (only mid-diff lock). The landy usually has the better offroad-suspension keeping all wheels perfectly on the ground for a long time, while the G-Suspension is much stiffer. In this vid you compared a G500 with a V8 to landy with 2.x engine - so the G is MUCH heavier. i'd prefer a G270 instead
NL land army: Mercedes, our Royal Navy: Land Rover 110 XD's: experience in the sandy dunes: marines in LR 110's: no problem running around (standard), Mercedes (loaded also) stuck mostly; after at least 2 wheel/ tire combinations + diff locks could do the same. Weight distribution is key: LR front axle remains about same load while vehicle is fully loaded; Mercedes LWBase: rear axle pos effectively increases front ax load: earlier stuck.
@acetrucks1 are you trying to piss me off? or have you really no idea? The Land Rover brand started its existence when the Rover company build the LAND ROVER as a 4wd multi purpose vehicle in the 50's or so. It was based on the jeep willis and built with aluminium leftovers from ww2. As the Range Rover and the Land Rover Discovery came along and they went on selling their first model as the Defender. I have really no idea why im wasting time and effort to tell you this when you can google it.
@acetrucks1 im sure that you mean that everybody turns land rovers and not Gs into offroaders because they are less expensive. Did you know the G was designed for some arabian army back in the 70's or so?. The Defender already existed back then. So if it was SUCH a good car, why did they ask mercedes to build another one especially for them and not buy the existing and MUCH cheaper Defender? You only need to fit a good set of tyres to it and the G will offroad and very rarely break down.
even though the land rover did get up the hill, i think the G is still the better offroader. Just look how bouncy the land rover is => it could not have gone up faster even if the engine performed better. The G has way better suspension. much smoother. Then the G couldn't climb so slowly i think because of higher torque that caused it to lose grip. Also the G's driver's foot seems a bit heavy.
My 1994 Nissan pathfinder would be able to do it. Although G-wagons are my favorite.
Whats that suppose to mean? Just because I played Minecraft at one time means I can't off road my truck? I never took any videos of that because I don't have a decent video camera, and to be honest it was never all that interesting. My disco needs body work, a new coat of paint, and gets atrocious MGPs, so I'm trying to replace it as my daily driver.
Resale is a little more than double that, at least around here.
The parts are hard to find and expensive, and they do require a little extra maintenance. So the resale value going to be lower, its the same with some Porsches and other high-end vehicles. They're worth it though, IMO.
I'd much rather be rollin' in my disco than some dumbass Toyota.
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Big difference in the countries metalhead, U can't even compare the two one is German the other is now built by Tata motors in India but carries a european nameplate.. Regardless of where the vehicles are built the benz is far superior.. I say this because my family is German.
Just get a land rover wolf it's kicks all others arses
Heavier, more difficult to source though, but nice punchy engine.
Как минимум водители и разная резина, поэтому сравнение не совсем корректное.
@cageordie Rats, meant most places, not cases. In the US a 93 110 is $60k+ saw one for %78k the other day and the cheapest 95 90 was $29,500. What in God's name are these people... oh, it's the protectionist import laws. UNIMOGs are cheaper than Defenders in the US!
@qwadboy true Tata owns them but their is still no comparison, I have ridden in both and driven the G superior all the way.. Of course your going to say they are similar if your English and work at Land rover ask a German that know's their vehicles which is better..
If you will buy land rover in ndderland i will buy G i neddrland and tomorow we will go to Ukraina i will be thre in 20h and You will probably not come becosue you will be in hospital whit broken back .
I ised to own a defender. It was rubbish, yeah they are good off road but fail in every other respect, badly made, chassis rots, uncomfortable you need the window open to drive it, so unreliable and way over priced, i have a fourtrak now, far better 4x4 in every respect
@Gris110 Based on this video, where do yo see the defender is better? Disregarding the fact that the defender is heavily modded too, maybe it's just the driver? No doubt that both cars are great offroaders, but price is no argument when you're out there
The comparison is not quite fair. The Landi had better tyres plus modified suspension. I think with the Landy-tyres the G would have gone up the hill the first time.
non mi sembra sia una differenza di mezzi ma piu' che altro di pilota sultano la studis essendo il primo tu invece la prendi subito piu' cattiva e sali prima
Are you for real saying the defender had better tyres !
The G had simex jungle trekers that are double the price and then some of the kumho kl71 on defender !
I think land rover has better driver, but this place is very dangerous I think. If they would rolover, they would roll down a very big hill.
what i want to know is y ppl compare the defender to hummer, and defender to the g wagon, but not the g wagon to hummer, it makes no sense.
Too bad you are prolly too far away to go wheeling with me. I'll show you what's what with Toyotas... If you are close by, let's wheel!
both are great off road cars but for me G classe is the best and the king off road ever and for me Mercedes is the best cars technicaly speak
My opinion is like this :
1.G classe the best off road car ever see
2. S classe the best luxurious limousine ever made
3.Amg GT S, SLS AMG and SLR best supercars
Why would you compare an american built vehicle to a german and european built vehicle their is plainly no comparison.
This Defender has raised suspension, which results in bouncing and instability. Mine doesn't bounce! G Wagon fa caca
@296jayce it is because people always compare things to the best. and the defender is the best there is in its class
if you want a modified mercedes g: the swiss armed forced will sell all of them (about 20'000 i think). very good stuff, i was driving one as i was in the army.
what motor has the land rover go in it? Sounds like a russian tractor! :)
Corns Cornetto its probably heavily tuned with a better v8 engine so maybe
@axs12345 well g is bettter for driving but not for of road.and its twise of landies price
Landy my favourate car!
''Se non vai su, la taglio! Non preoccuparti!'' Hahahaha! Grande!
What id really want out of these is the land rover defender and drive train with a merc diesel in it....
So why used 10yo 100K miles Toyota costs 3-4 times more than used 10yo 100K miles LR?
No wonder why its called the LAND ROVER.......
Too bad for the G. The newer one stands a better chance if they we're to retake that again but still, Land Rover Defender has been around since 1960's (?) and yet it can still beat or match modern day cars. Go DEFENDER
+Vince Andrew Mahinan Not quite buddy...
Series 1 1947 - 1958
Serie 2 1958 - 1961
Series 2A 1962 - 1971
Series 3 1971 - 1984
110/90 1983/1984 - 1990
Defender 1990 - 2015 sniff...sob...
+Koito rob Sorry about that :/ thanks for getting my facts straight :)
The defender has hardly changed and will keep going forward even into when diesel and petrol engines are banned
the G had better tires but shorter wheel base.the defender had sucky tires but had a little longer wheel base.the defender won because of that,great truck
The G is apparently much heavier than the Defender, hence unable to climb up the hills. If in other tests, the G will be better than the Defender, depending.
The LR is so much more capable than the G.
yo creo que esa subida engaña. a mi me paso lo mismo. en una subida que hicimos en el video no se aprecia. pero ninguno la pudimos subir a la primera. la gente me decia, que si no la habia atacado bien y tonterias. solo digo que cuando la vimos, pensamos en darnos la vuelta. conclusion: el video no hace justicia.
como me gustaria un mercedes G para mi garaje
it's no about the car... it's all about the driver !
Silvi Vlachkov yeah right fuck g wagon fuck boy.
Silvi Vlachkov in this case the g wagons driver was shit scared
Fiat panda 4x4 would have gone up that like fuck.lol
defender is miles better :) best 4x4 in the world well in my opinion :)
Never understood why Landy owners but hi-lift kits on. It does nothing for ground clearance, and moves the centre of gravity upwards, the opposite of what you want when offroading. It's a completely negative mod on that vehicle.
Judging by your videos, you're actually not as far away as you could be. Not that far at all relatively speaking, but right now I'm trying to start a career. I've got street tires on my truck right now, being unemployed I can't afford gas getting that far north much less a repair if my rover decided to break. I've got a pipe dream of sticking a Defender body on that disco frame one day, maybe then. :P
In the Late 1970's when Persia (Iran) was ruled by the Shah he was the main share holder in Mercedes Benz, as there was a revolution in the making the shah wanted a reliable and versatile vehicle that was not only reliable and comfortable but one that could be easily adapted for military use and all the variations needed. Then in 1978 the G wagen was in production built by hand in Austria.
You either love them or hate them ! Most people who have 4x4's don't even go off road so shouldn't comme
@ZoracYTManager
Engine size/power isn't entirely immaterial, esp on hills. "Power hill" isn't just an American concept. More torque would allow the use of a higher gear (low 2nd/3rd) which would help suppress wheelspin on the ascent. A 500cc engine would have to be geared so low that there'd be "zilch" energy/momentum & traction would be lost pretty much @ the base
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Heinz Hagenbucher trotzdem kann es nicht schaden
kind of forgot the toyota FJ40 and landcruiser.
@bastianfrom77 suspension set up here makes no difference, articulation is only beneficial climbing over rocks and elephants footsteps to my eyes, the G classes tires were much more agressive. personally I'd think that tall tires and raised suspension on stuff as steep as that looks like it makes it more dangerous as you're gonna be bouncing about much more. seeing as he G has diff loks all round, it should have wooped the Landy, but I guess it's just much heavier.
G has three diff locks landy only one so the G should have been better but it all comes down to driver skill and tyres , tyres make up 50% of off road ability , you can have $150k Range Rover on normal tyres and a $5k Wrangler on mud terrains and the wrangler will slaughter the Range Rover off road even if your a crap driver .
*B O W L E R*
DEFENDER WIN!!!
Il G ed il Patrol sono molto pesanti: sui ramponi questo crea qualche problema.
Altra faccenda è la robustezza: il peso in più c'è per qualche motivo...
I think the Landie does better because the G is over power, so difficult for the driver to control the wheel spin when hitting too much accelerator, while the landie driver just floor it and the power is just nice.
benz looks safer...may it has the edge on its diff locks system
defender wasnt stock and was lighter. also the tires had propably better tire pressure. there is no reason a defender would defeat a G. G classes have three differential locks, a defender has one. G is superior, no matter how much shit the guys in the comment section talk.
G wasnt stock too and was heavy, the rest is shit like the rest of comment section ;)
Also the g had more aggressive tyres
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