This OEM AMD RX5700 from an Alienware is weirdly AWESOME!!!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- The OEM AMD RX 5700 graphics card that you find in the AMD Ryzen based Alienware pre-built, is actually better than you'd expect. It's still hideous though.
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"20°C so quite a cold room"
*Laughs in university accommodation*
lol could relate
And 60°C in the summer
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Really? My university dorms would let you turn the heat up to 74F/23C
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This is why I like Saturdays.
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That cooler looks very similar to the one I put on the 5700 I got at launch, it was some visiontek r9 390 deal, barely 2 slots, it did great as well. I don't know why they ever put a blower on a card that cooler is no more expensive to make I'm sure. Thanks for the shout out by the way but video needs more tazing
Hey Timmy Joe!
I remember that video! It is so weird that they didn't just use something like this. It's clearly not that hard to make a good cooler. The stock 5700 cooler is all brushed metal, so I'm sure it's even more expensive to make.
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7:40 That is sometimes standard practice for BGA chips, the epoxy is meant to help secure the chip better if the PCB flexes, you'll see this especially in laptops. The chip is still soldered on normally underneath.
Oh cool! That's very interesting. Thanks for the insight. 👍
Yeah that's a variant of edge bond, which reinforces the underfill, it can be done along whole length or just the corners. It's actually an insanely good idea when you have a huge BGA, potentially some externally induced flex in the board, and high local temperature gradient or large temperature swings. A good supplemental way to help the PCB survive longer with a chip this powerful, and it's one of those adjustment measures that had to be taken after ROHS to restore hardware longevity - together with BGA substrate changes and introduction of underfill. Also good for laptops as you say, because the board flexes a bit together with the chassis and because laptop cooling is generally pretty borderline.
@thecouchtripper Maybe because it's in an Alienware case :D
Flex under external forces isn't generally a major concern in PCs, though fan vibration can contribute, it's mostly thermal expansion and contraction, because thermal expansion coefficient isn't strictly equal between different layers and materials, the result is ultimately microscopic warpage. Everything always moves even when you don't see it, and at the scale size of the metallisation structure in the FCBGA interposer substrate, these movements are significant.
heh, apple was too cheap to do that for one of their phone's audio ICs ircc
@@virtualtools_3021 and they did it also on a nother generation with the touch IC
This is similar to the power colour “Dual” variant that they sell, I have the 5700xt “Dual” and it runs great even with the tiny cooler.
Yeah I actually wanted to mention it in the video. It's clearly where they got inspiration for it.
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It's almost like some cooling solutions are over engineered. The simple cooling on the Alienware card was doing a stellar job.
The 5700 is such a beast even in this version
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Yeah! It is a great GPU. 😁
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Alienware must have come in contact with real aliens with alien technology where their oem gpus aren't complete trash.
That's epoxy, not glue. And it's soldered onto the actual contacts of course.
Yeah for sure. I just found the globs of epoxy funny. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff The epoxy is in my opinion a good ideaif done correctly. for shipment of those prebuilt systems. forces that results in the pcb flexing could ruin the card ( by ripping off the solder pad) . so putting epoxy under the soc after soldering could prevent those kinds of failures
"shouted like a Banshee being waterboarded" 😂
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Thank you for this! I just ordered a Dell 5700 and was specifically trying to find info on the hardware. Specifically the thermal characteristics and the number of power connector pins it needed. I should get mine in about a month!
Love your videos ❤❤❤. Keep outputting great content. Love what you do.
I built my kid a budget 1080p setup, with a 165hz monitor, Ryzen 3600 on an X570 board etc. One of these exact GPU came up for criminally cheap on Marketplace, I bought it after watching this video. I originally planned to upgrade it later on, but it’s an absolute sweaty beast!! Then I did the BIOS mod to allow for higher MHz and Power limits, I honestly can’t see a need to upgrade it, at least not for 1080 gaming.🤷♂️
I have this exact card with a i5 10400f, a 144hz monitor and a 500w platinum power supply but only a dinky atx motherboard with 16gb of 3600 ram that only runs at 3200 due to the mb. Is there a way you can teach me how to do the bios settings to boost the card a video or written tutorial? Pls and ty
Regardless I can play almost any game at high settings but an extra boost would be nicer for more intense games out there.
The Alienware prebuilds,
Banshee of the gaming pc's,
Like the banshee, it got noise and a hot engine.
But does it have 20mm Dakota gunz
Honestly that 5700 is all over the place, the clock speed wasn't consistent at all and performance of it should have been better then that. What driver version were you using????
i love the 5700 man, they are rare these days, i flash them all to XT's haha get some more power of em them, or bios mod them and get even more power
Can you do one on the HP graphics cards? I’ve seen some GTX 1600 series HP cards floating around on eBay.
Same
The glue is so the dye don't move at bake . They probably don't have bracket to hold stuff because they made various type of PCb. You can see the glue is well apply, this is they manufacturing process
This is the type of card that will last until the end of time, simple with enough to work and good cooler
NOTE: I miss the time of the HD 4850
All I'm gonna say is, I rlly enjoyed seeing you being tased xD, shame you didn't put the clip again
Wtf man it's 6am over here time zones are an annoying thing
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cool story bro! Thanks for posting it! Cool card.
I actually really like that RX 5700. Dawid says that it reminds him of older GPU's, and that is why I like it. It reminds me of my old X800 from back in the day.
Looks like the powercolor card with a red PCB
They look similar from the outside, but on the inside, you will see that the heatsink construction is very different.
The heatsink is much like the one from the ASRock Challenger.
Hope you get more subs bro! Your content is very good and interesting! Love from Malaysia👌🏻
That glue is applied by the smd pick and place machine to prevent the chips from sliding away while transporting and heating!
Brotha! Thank-you you'll never ever ever know how much this video meant no bullshit you just saved my ass this Christmas
Love your vids, man. Like, I know you don't need someone telling you "Hey, go spend money!" but a few months ago I was skimming eBay for an inexpensive video card to pick up, and I did note that there were a lot of then-new (well, system pull, "new" in the sense of newly mfg.) 1660 4gb cards that looked even more basic and ghetto than the one from the Alienware system - maybe you could snag something like that and give it a test, too?
I have been enjoying the content a lot lately!
As for some feedback, i am not sure if this is a personal thing. But i would prefer if you talked over the benchmarks while they are showing up. The music and numbers don't do it for me. Let me know if this is just me or not!
Would be really interested in seeing a follow up video where you overclock it not gonna lie.
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Corner Gluing is OEM thins usual you can find it in Laptops CPU, glue decrease change of failure on connection between PCB and GPU package
yeah, Dawid, the GPU isn't 'glued on', that's an edge bonding to help keep the chip secured since the solder joints alone aren't enough to keep it on the board. It's still kind of chintzy to do that, though... it should be better secured. I'd expect that on say, an Apple laptop (they do it all the time), but not a GPU.
Interesting, haven't heard from ECS a long time. I was pretty sure they went down years ago.
Yeah I also though that, but it seems they still manufacture stuff.
They're still one of the biggest. They don't make boards under their own brand but the make a whole lot of boards for OEMs. NZXT uses them for their motherboards.
My first pc have ecs mobo, they're cheap
gosh darn green was the imposter
The aim at 4.25!!
Triggered my server admin senses for further investigation . . . . . . (not an admin in this game, just on some older fps online games)
That red PCB is a homage to old ATI Radeon era. I remember I had an ATI 9800 pro in that same color.
Real thinker why AMD would put this on cards for prebuilts while still using a blower reference design
I like videos like his, I can’t tell if he is reading off a teleprompter. If he is glad I can’t tell. If he isn’t even more entertaining. This is why I fast forward with channels like hardware unbox or LTT
This video made me buy that Montec case. Absolutely beautiful.. that and the Fractal North with the wooden front grill which I also bought lol.. I have problems I know
There's no mistaking the sound of a banshee being waterboarded so when he says that's what it sounds like you know he's dead on.
You keep saying its an ugly card but I prefer its aesthetics compared to most current day designs.
I thought it looked more like ATIs graphics cards from way back in 2006/2007 than a skin boil
I realize this video is about 4 to 5 months old and you may not have the pc or gpu anymore, but is it possible to bios flash the dell 5700 to a 5700xt?
6:54 you could have said that the temps were nice ;)
Isn’t it ironic how this literally performs and cools better, than a typical reference blower style version of the card as well? Given the fact it’s only OEM..
I kinda like those red and green gpu cards. Would do really well in a total sleeper build.
I need to see GPU-Z readout of that GPU. It might be an OEM only SKU that is cut down in someway or another.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff : man, I love that little red sleeper OEM RX 5700 8GB card. Do you know if it can be bought as an OEM GPU separately ? I love how it actually looks like an ATI HD 4850 1GB gpu from long ago :).
The reason the temps are good is due to the fact the GPU is not pushed to the max like 99% usage. Hovers around 60 / 80% and therefor also not boosting to the max clockfrequency.... Known issue with that card @ 1080p unless you crank everything to ultra...
This cooler looks like one of those early "leaked" rendered images of radeon cards when they went away from blower style coolers BUT didn't actually see the light of day.
I would very much like to buy one of these for a sandwich style ITX build. Various cases in which this gpu would perform well comes to mind (dan a4, formd t1, ghost s1 etc.)
G'day Dawid,
Buildzoid has a thing for AMD Red Motherboard Graphics Cards so I'm sure he would love thist, also it would be interesting to hear his thoughts in a PCB Breakdown,
I bet that 2 fan cooler is a lot less noisy than the Alienware Liquid Cooled RTX2080Super made by Asetek used in the same Alienware case,
on that GPU AIO funny how Asetek is always threatening every other AIO manufacturer for anything even remotely like their pump on block design for CPUs, yet they have no problem copying someone else's design & saying it is theirs for a GPU 🤔
Weirdly awesome is putting it mildly. The XT version does have the 6pin and 8pin. It looks very similar to what Power Color and VisionTek were putting out but I haven't been able to get my hands on one yet to see if it's identical. Great for smaller cases that's for sure. Comparing it to the Strix and the Gigabyte Gaming OC (3 fan coolers) it runs on par with the Gigabyte but the Asus Strix version does cool better by several degrees. It blows the Asus Evo out of the water though.. which has 20% higher heat on a beefier looking two fan cooler.
I've owned a few HP and Dell OEM cards and have been surprised at how well they run.
You need to flash it to an XT variant and see how it runs (probably power limited). How high can it go before it begs for mercy!
I have the blower style reference design of the RX 5700. That is a perfect way to describe it.
Red is nice, it could have been that old style green, or a brown board.
now this is something i didnt seam coming
I still find it amusing how a lot of tech RUclips’s don’t upload in 60fps
It reminds me of the powercolor red dragon cards. If you dont care for overclocks and rgb and fancy stuff it's a vanilla 5700 and it works like one.
I actually kind of like the PCB color myself, reminds me of my ATI gpu from 2005.
i love tridehZ RAM, also that was a Vega card you showed at 6:08
15+ years ago ATI video cards had red PCB solder mask by default. MSI mobos did too. Red used to be the hot ticket. ASUS had this baby poop brown solder mask, Gigabyte was mainly blue. ABIT was green or brown and SOYO came out with these excellent silver mobos.
I have the MSI 5700 Mech OC, and I love the card, and I'm gaming at 2k. When I bought it I didn't think the extra premium for the XT card was worth it, and I think I was right. Looking forward to getting my hands on the new 6800 or 6800XT.
No cat cameo, but otherwise a good cherry red mx review. I gave it a thumbs up.
I think that is the best 5700 that I have ever seen! Awesome Video!
The rx5600 by dell is also really well made. So well that it mines at or above a 5600xt hash rate for around 15watts less (maybe more)
Radeon seems to get a lot of guff but I love my 5600 XT. Also the wierd oem gpu is great! This stuff is the reason I keep coming back to the channel. More taser content too
Interesting video. Id be interested to see this compared side by side in performance to a sapphire or other top brand RX 5700. To see any possible differences in performance as well as voltage or power consumption.
Well.. I have a Asus Evo 5700.. and the Alienware 5700xt (similar to the one pictured) On Thermals the Asus card performs terribly.. It runs a good 5-8 hotter at the core.. and a whopping 30c hotter on memory. As a quick reference, if my Asus card was running the same program temps are in and around 75core 77junction 105Mem The Alienware one is running 62c 64c 78c. Or there abouts and it's the faster card. The stupid thing about this? One is running in the Alienware chassis and the Asus card was in one of those nice big Thermaltake Level 20XTs with 2 200mm fans bringing cool air in. SAD. I'd lay money on the Asus card using more power as well simply because it's factory overclocked and whereas the Alienware one is not.
Apparently there are two different versions of my Asus Evo though.. One made in China, the other made in Taiwan. The ones made in Taiwan are not having the heating issues as the ones made in China.. something to do with the thermal pads used maybe. I dunno. I haven't ripped it apart yet.
I'm getting by on 1440p 75-100hz fine on Sapphire Pulse 5700. Never dip below high settings. Pretty solid card especially if you bios flash it to become a nuclear 5700xt. (there's sometimes a reason they're locked down. Silicon lottery, boys.)
i didn't expect the skin boil reference 😭 i thought he was gonna say something about ATI cards
prob have a low tdp bios, maybe is possible to flash a retail one, with just a 8 pin you're theoretically safe till 225W.
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Could swap coolers and add fans to reference cards...I had a gtx580 that had no cooler ...artifacted...I baked it...put a cpu cooler on it..still ran hot so I had a amd 5830..1gig card that quit working and put that cooler on the gtx580...some zip ties and a lil hot glue to keep zip ties from moving and that card runs great now!! My gtx hd 5830 :)
Those epoxy serves a purpose to see if someone had tampered with the GPU core itself.
Looks quite a bit like the Powercolor basic model RX 5000 series cards. The cooler design is very similar as well.
What happens if you solider on the second 8 pin? Does your card blow up or become a nuclear powered gaming killer card. if it's glued on, can you swap it for a better gpu? It would then be a nuclear powered pono hot gpu.
This looks like a good graphics card depending on the price but we can't buy just the graphics card. So maybe it's a good card to watch for in the future on used graphics card sites?
Love the channel! Great tech advice with a liberal sprinkling of great dry humour. Keep up the good work!
Dawid: ages ago
me: 10 videos ago.
Late to the party here, but have you considered flashing a 5700xt bios to it for laughs?
Looks Like an XFX Cooler, Looks very similar to the RX 570 cooler from XFX
You’d think as a business known for bad thermals they’d fix that by now.
i have the xt version of this alienware card does anyone know if there is a backplate I can buy any where for it?
That cooler reminds me of the really generic looking one PowerColor uses for their cheapest dual fan 5700.
Did you do any tests with the fan directly over the GPU partially blocked by an adjacent PCIe board?
These big companies like Dell, HP, Nvidia they spend millions on quality control, they employ PHDs to figure out how to make sure these pc parts work fine for a long period of time.
If anything I would be more concerned with products that you see sold to people like water coolers and stuff.
I didn't know Dawid was there when I waterboarded that banshee. Shhhh, let's not get the paranormal activists involved.
Red pcb is very old school. 2000+ era of gpus were red. Ati 9200 agp etc. + that tarkov game,you seem ram bottlenecked 14,5gb used and dont forget hardware reserved. Try the same with 32gb maybe? Jusr saying
I had an ATI X800 Pro with a red PCB, I remember running Half Life 2 and Doom 3 on that when they came out.
Red PCB looks superb.
This is why I like second tier AIBs like PNY, Gainward, KFA, Galax etc. Saves me 30-50 bucks over hyped up MSI and Asus cards
Hey dawid! Quick question regarding your setup. I have a very similar one, currently im running an AMD R7 3800x, an ASUS Prime x570-p and just bought myself a Kraken x63. Now, my question is, how did you configured/connected your radiator fans? I am asking because i connected the pump to the pump header and the radiator fans to the CPU fans, but they keep ramping up and are very noisy. I installed CAM v4 but the fans wont appear on there to configure their speeds, and if i just control them in the bios, they are CPU temp bound and i really wanted to be able to ramp up their speed based on the liquid temp instead (since thats the main temp in an AIO right?)
Thanks for your time!
Looks a lot like my old HD3850. I used that card for many years, good times.
Looks almost exactly identical to the PowerColor rx5700 in my system currently, except the powercolor has a back plate
Only 442 views? Damm
Edit- realized that this only came out 10 minutes ago