A VERY RARE sight at Central today, K set K76 came and coupled with red rattler W3, then towing it away to Flemington. Filmed on the 3rd of October 2022
What I loved about the old red rattlers is that all the support poles and handrails were made of brass,which got a beautiful yellow polished finish where people’s hands gripped them or their clothes rubbed them,now it’s all stainless steel so it’s not the same
Thanks for this great video of the old Red with the K Set. I still remember when they were building the Red Double Deckers at Rhodes as we passed on our way into the city for work, many times. Well done!
@@coolsoap8 Do you remember those very old single-deck wooden carriages where it seemed that the body lurched from side to side independently of the chassis, And there was plenty of fresh air ventilation through the gaps between the timbers? I wonder if it would be compatible with them.
I've seen an image floating around of a k (?) set coupled with a v set, so I can guess that most of those fleets are actually compatible in some capacity
Gee I remember riding the red rattlers to work in the 70s early 80s drafty and cold in some the doors wouldn't close and if it was raining it got a little wet inside around the door.
They were good trains, anything that was locally built is something I like. I’ve had enough of these made in China and Korea trains that are full of defects. This is why I don’t like liberals
Is that a SECOND red rattler at 1:27, you guys have MULTIPLE functioning historical examples of trains?! That's amazing, here we have zero mainline-certified heritage trains (atleast none that can run with passengers).
The red rattler that the K set is coupling to isn't operational at the moment, hence why it was being towed. The K sets aren't heritage, all 40 are still in service in weekday peak hour. The one that is being towed is under restoration and should be operation soon, if they haven't restored it already. Hopefully you guys get a heritage train for your railway. Thanks.
It’s not “never used” in Sydney, it’s widely used by Sydneysiders to refer to our old Single Deck suburbans. Yes the term originated in Melbourne, but don’t chuck a tantrum just because the expression made its way to Sydney.
Lol what are you on about mate? The term Red Rattlers have been used for ages, my parents have talked for years about catching the red rattlers in the 70s. It's not that exclusive to Melbourne.
I don’t believe that there were any other options, if they were planning on booking a locomotive, then a locomotive would’ve shown up. It was a very interesting sight!
griifin, i forgot all about you at jann,you walked the ropes creek line with your dad, well i catch trains now from jannali yes jannali i live here,near my car and shell
Double deck carriages haven’t been seen coupled to single deck carriages since the 1990s, and the two train types coupling in this video never worked in the same consist, making this an extremely rare one-off coupling.
As a person who rode them back in the day, the only “mix” between red and more modern stainless sets would be the Tulloch double deck trailers that were initially red, and mixed into a single deck driving set. Once the single deck reds were retired these DD trailers were then painted grey and mixed in with the S sets. In the 80s & 90s it was rare to get a K set out my way - they saved them for the sooks who complained and ran them on those lines. It was mostly S (for Sweatbox) sets and occasional Tangaras in the mid 90s. It wasn’t until a few years before they retired the Ks that they ran regularly here. When they changed the windows in the S sets it was great in winter, but hell in summer. As much as I like heritage (used to be involved in steam 30 odd years back, and still regularly visit Thirlmere), I can’t find it in me to get excited about “modern” k-sets. Some are barely 40 years old! But you’re 100% correct - coupling the mix, especially in front of the public at a station is extremely rare. It would really only be shunters in yards & workshops who may have done it in the past, but that’s not publicly accessible. Maybe an exception would be a breakdown on the network during peak that couldn’t be moved any other way? But from what I saw over the years, they sent diesels out to drag them back, and routed operations to other tracks or platforms (along with long delays).
Coupling at 2:51
What I loved about the old red rattlers is that all the support poles and handrails were made of brass,which got a beautiful yellow polished finish where people’s hands gripped them or their clothes rubbed them,now it’s all stainless steel so it’s not the same
Thanks for this great video of the old Red with the K Set. I still remember when they were building the Red Double Deckers at Rhodes as we passed on our way into the city for work, many times. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it
thats the mixture of trains into a red rattler + K set
Wow I wish I was there to see that
This is epic! Nice.
Full marks to those on the design team charged with ensuring inter-class compatibility.
Absolutely, I never would’ve thought it was possible
@@coolsoap8 Do you remember those very old single-deck wooden carriages where it seemed that the body lurched from side to side independently of the chassis, And there was plenty of fresh air ventilation through the gaps between the timbers? I wonder if it would be compatible with them.
I've seen an image floating around of a k (?) set coupled with a v set, so I can guess that most of those fleets are actually compatible in some capacity
@@DMack6464 That's amazing - all the technology changes over the decades but compatibility retained.
They're not electrically compatible in any way
Gee I remember riding the red rattlers to work in the 70s early 80s drafty and cold in some the doors wouldn't close and if it was raining it got a little wet inside around the door.
Yes and they were horrible in summer
those were the real trains!! who remembers getting the 'red rattlers' to cronulla beach? before it got over-run by hoons, so mid-80's.
They were good trains, anything that was locally built is something I like. I’ve had enough of these made in China and Korea trains that are full of defects. This is why I don’t like liberals
It was super cool to see this move, and also to meet you!
It certainly was! Hope to see you around more often 👍👍
The thing is that I’ve never been on either of these
Is that a SECOND red rattler at 1:27, you guys have MULTIPLE functioning historical examples of trains?! That's amazing, here we have zero mainline-certified heritage trains (atleast none that can run with passengers).
The red rattler that the K set is coupling to isn't operational at the moment, hence why it was being towed. The K sets aren't heritage, all 40 are still in service in weekday peak hour. The one that is being towed is under restoration and should be operation soon, if they haven't restored it already. Hopefully you guys get a heritage train for your railway. Thanks.
1:27 that was set F1
AAAARGH! "Red Rattler" is a very Melbourne expression never used in Sydney until it has wrongly crept into use in Sydney long after the event!!
It’s not “never used” in Sydney, it’s widely used by Sydneysiders to refer to our old Single Deck suburbans. Yes the term originated in Melbourne, but don’t chuck a tantrum just because the expression made its way to Sydney.
Lol what are you on about mate? The term Red Rattlers have been used for ages, my parents have talked for years about catching the red rattlers in the 70s. It's not that exclusive to Melbourne.
I wish to ride this. Cool vid anyway.
Certain people are rather crazy
I don’t believe that there were any other options, if they were planning on booking a locomotive, then a locomotive would’ve shown up. It was a very interesting sight!
@@coolsoap8 I think pawel meant all the foamers at the fence line and near the danger zone, when the k set driver had to toot the horn.
Is that Mathew from Ahead Mathew Awesome. 🤩
Yes
Imagine for a tour they did W3 + S28 or F1 + W3
griifin, i forgot all about you at jann,you walked the ropes creek line with your dad, well i catch trains now from jannali yes jannali i live here,near my car and shell
Was the red rattler air-conditioned after the coupling?
🤦🏼♂️
@@coolsoap8 My comment was not exactly serious.
@@doubledee9675 The facepalm was in response to the bad joke.
@@coolsoap8 Right
I WAS THERE THAT DAY!!
Me and griffin were on the platform that the train came into, where were you?
@@coolsoap8 Platform 3 I think
The train passing Flemington. ruclips.net/video/1ltvw0rg6o8/видео.html
They gotta do it with a t set next time cause the t set replaced that train
The T sets have a completely different coupler, they wouldn’t have been able to do it even if they wanted to
@@coolsoap8 they could use an adaptor since diesel locomotives use adaptors to pull trains for transfer.
@@coolsoap8 T Set to A Set
Train
Insanely stupid they thought they it was a good idea to replace the entire fleet with double deckers eh
What are talking about idiot the NSWGR introduced double deck trains in the 1970's we were the only country for years that double deck carriages
Well you have never worked on the railways or been around them very often connecting single deck and double deck trains occur quite regularly
Double deck carriages haven’t been seen coupled to single deck carriages since the 1990s, and the two train types coupling in this video never worked in the same consist, making this an extremely rare one-off coupling.
Lol train nerds
If you’re not a train nerd then why are you here? Find a hobby.
wdym rare
this happens every day
What are you on about? Red sets almost never coupled with K sets. Do your research next time.
As a person who rode them back in the day, the only “mix” between red and more modern stainless sets would be the Tulloch double deck trailers that were initially red, and mixed into a single deck driving set. Once the single deck reds were retired these DD trailers were then painted grey and mixed in with the S sets. In the 80s & 90s it was rare to get a K set out my way - they saved them for the sooks who complained and ran them on those lines. It was mostly S (for Sweatbox) sets and occasional Tangaras in the mid 90s. It wasn’t until a few years before they retired the Ks that they ran regularly here. When they changed the windows in the S sets it was great in winter, but hell in summer.
As much as I like heritage (used to be involved in steam 30 odd years back, and still regularly visit Thirlmere), I can’t find it in me to get excited about “modern” k-sets. Some are barely 40 years old! But you’re 100% correct - coupling the mix, especially in front of the public at a station is extremely rare. It would really only be shunters in yards & workshops who may have done it in the past, but that’s not publicly accessible. Maybe an exception would be a breakdown on the network during peak that couldn’t be moved any other way? But from what I saw over the years, they sent diesels out to drag them back, and routed operations to other tracks or platforms (along with long delays).