Well, I’ll be the naysayer here. I love my Sequoia. The cargo area is what it is and when you really need it, you do miss a flat load floor. For me though, I don’t need it 99% of the time I drive it and when I do need the back, I can make do. I have 5 kids so we always had to use a trailer hitch rack anyway (wife drives a GLS Mercedes). Third row is plenty big like you said, despite what some others have said. Biggest positive is that engine. My only real complaints: 1) I had to get a limited because the Pro doesn’t come with a bench seat (5 kids so it is a necessity) 2) squats like a dog when I tow my 5500 lb boat (seen the Tundras have the same issue). Other than that, I get a smile on my face every time I plant my foot on the gas so I might get premature wrinkles.
Completely agree ❤ you can find a video review of any vehicle where the reviewer is not a fan. Make your own decisions. You're the only one who needs to be happy with the purchase
Tbh i went to the dealership and looked at the seqioa and it felt smalller than the previous gen, i could be wrong but it just felt like it. Compared to how the tacoma, rav 4 and tundra now where in they are latger tjan prevoiuse gen l, like the tacoma for example with trd pro the new tacoma almost looks as large as the prevois gen tundra from afar
@@Marco-yl8cm Never, it can't be done! But in all honesty I live with my SUV's seats folded down for maximum cargo space and treat it as a two seater 90% of the time.
3rd row and rear storage is my main and primary issue for not buying it. Second issue is cost. Toyota has increased pricing upward of $20K for some of these trims. Maybe some of that is warranted but I think most of it is exploiting the economy and pandemic. I'll consider a Grand Highlander, TX or GX though I'm quite, quite happy with our new '23 Lexus GX.
Exactly. I can get over the price if it didn't have a 3rd row. I get some people need the 3rd row but many of us do not and would rather the extra cargo space. Toyota should be offering the option remove 3rd row seat and just have a standard bench seat in the rear. makes far more sense.
Great content! I'm also a Toyota intusiast. I previously owned a 2004 Tundra SR5 full cab. I enjoyed driving it here on the East Coast, especially during the winter months. The Tundra was quiet & and a great suspension. I currently own a 2014 Camry Hybrid. I'm looking at the incoming Tacoma generation and waiting to see the new look of the 4RUNNER to decide my future purchase. I've tried to look at other brand names, but my heart keeps bringing me to Toyota. 👏🏽👌🏽👍🏽
Agree 100% with everything wrong with the back and hope they don't ruin the next generation 4runner. Love the full window roll down on my Tundra and previous gen Sequoia. It feel like they really cut down costs yet the price tag doesn't reflect that, might as well go with the new lexus gx or the land cruiser.
Well Toyota just screwed every 4 Runner fan out there waiting for the 6th Gen. They took what was supposed to be the 4 Runner and slapped a Land Cruiser batch , add $15K to the price and sorry 4 Runner fans you are out off luck ion you dont have the cash. The 6 Gen 4 Runner will mostly be a Tacoma with a box in the rear, much cheaper and less refinement.
That’s what I was thinking. I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee L and am looking at the new Sequoia. I never use my 3rd row in the L so it stays down for more space
100% agree on the back cargo area of the Sequoia, just not a dog friendly design. Also, it would be really educational if you could take us through all the financials of your ownership.
Yea, Like at first it was bad, and its not like it is unlivable, but the more we used it/ owned it, the more we started to realize how not functional it was.
That cargo area is horrible. I feel like most of us out there don't even need 7 damn seats. What's with all these manufacturers loading up seats in their big SUV's. if i needed that much seating i'd get a damn minivan lol.
@europeanlegend9347 very true, 3rd rows in even large SUV's are basically unusable for anybody over 100lbs. SUV's really need to be more about utility than people moving.
The first thing I did to my ‘22 tundra PRO was turn off the fake noise through my lexus scan tool at work. And for the exhaust sound, I think it sounds great also! It’s just loud enough to hear it but it NEVER drones, even when towing. Love that compared to the TRD exhaust on my ‘15 TRD OF I had which droned really bad when towing.
We had a 2003 sequoia that we loved it was time to sell it to family because we thought we were gonna buy a new one,however, when I saw that screwed up cargo area and the loss of a power roll down back window Toyota made my decision for me . We did not buy one so I guess we wait to see if the fix this issue that many people hate and hopefully they sell an extended version like a Suburban/Expedition/Navigator
I was super excited for this vehicle when they announced and previewed it. But, after finally seeing one in person, this is NOT the one for me. I have two kids, two dogs, and a whole leap of gear to haul on family trips for camping, paddle boarding, etc. Even without bringing dogs, I can’t imagine how it all fits. Shoot, I don’t even think our luggage would all fit even for just a long road trip. And then zero improvement in any of the cargo hauling areas over my 4Runner for that price?! Nah. Grand Highlander it is. The 4Runner is still the outdoor trip champ. A Grand Highlander can handle the rest.
It is great to drive, the killer for me is the back cargo space set up. After actually seeing it and test driving it I realized how not functional it would be for my lifestyle.
We’re a family of 4 with 2 dogs that camps. We agreed that the back was the deal breaker for us. like most we wish it folded flat to fit dogs, stack coolers etc.. looking at the new GX
@@TRDJonjust tried the GX550 and Land Cruiser, for a family vehicle I like the Sequoia better. GX and Land Cruiser are smaller than I thought they’d be, felt smaller than a 4 runner. My two kids liked the Sequoia or LX better, LX600 was more than I’m willing to spend on a daily driver. And surprisingly the LX was slower than the Sequoia and transmission didn’t feel as smooth. GX is nicer than the Land Cruiser, Land Cruiser’s 4 hybrid wasn’t as smooth as the 6 hybrid of the Sequoia and shifted much harder with that 4 cylinder whine.
The 3rd row and cargo area was a deal breaker for me. With 2 kids and a 100lb bernedoodle it wouldn't have worked. Keeping my 4runner for a while. The GX is looking positive without the hybrid.
I’ve got a 2024 sequoia. Third row is super roomy and I’m 6’2. Ride is pretty smooth, but you notice when the road is pretty rough, all in all not bad though. The complaints I hear about the storage in the back is valid, but I haven’t found anything I can’t put back there yet. It not being “flat” to the deck is only really a complaint for people who don’t want to lift something a foot and a half higher really, other than that it’s perfectly fine. Gas mileage in eco mode is pretty good for its size. Sport Mode is fun. You can really feel Those twin turbos and often times when getting up and going I’ll glance down and go “whoops I’m doing 100mph”. All in all it’s an amazing suv and a head turner
how do you buy a new car from a dealership, then turn around after 6 months and sell it used for a profit? new cars start depreciating as soon as you leave the dealership.
I really like your content - being a Toyota enthusiast as well. I purchased my first one, new in 1983, a Toyota Hilux Truck. Love `em! Currently waiting on my latest 4Runner - a TRD Off Road Premium with XP Predator Package. Also, living a little over 4 hours away from the Gulf Coast, I love getting to see all the familiar scenery from PC Beach to Fort Walton. I recognized in this video that you were driving across the bridge from Okaloosa Island into downtown Fort Walton. The Hightide Seafood Restaurant and Oyster Bar on the left as you are going over the bridge from the beach is one of our favorites and has been there a long time. Subscribed
I finally got see one in person at my local dealership in the same color the other day and does it look good. I'd pass though on the cargo space myself. Having a 2016 4Runner shows that I'd probably get annoyed with lack of a roll down window and folding seats the current Sequoia has haha.
3rd row seat/storage is why I have not upgraded from my 21 Sequoia. I was so stoked for this vehicle and figured like Tundra they would offer a non-hybrid option. But instead I am forced into hybrid and 3rd row that does not fold flat. Total market fail by Toyota. Only 14% of families need a 3rd row seat. But over 50% have 3 kids or less and a dog. Hoping they figure it out in a future model year.
You’re right about the turning radius and parking challenges. Many times I could barely making a u turn at some intersections. I love the truck but a Tacoma maybe more manageable. I am thinking about trading in my 23 TRD Tundra for the new Tacoma.
Love my Limited 23 TRD off-road Tundra but I have to tuck in mirrors to fit in garage. I wouldn’t buy a Sequoia because of not enough luggage space for a long vacation.
Crazy trd Jon went from normal guy who bought a cav blue 4Runner to an auto journalist and one of the best on RUclips for Toyota ish…. Toyota needs to hire you as a pr guy
I have a 2023 Chevy Tahoe Z71. I love it. 3rd row stows flat, 4x4 is more than capable. Bose sound system sounds amazing. Only grip is the gas ⛽️ mileage
@@DGYtown lmao I must of really struck a chord the fact you had to look up an old video. Anyways clearly your in your feelings that my nissian will outlast your chevy.
Kind of disappointing that the sequoia has horrible rear cargo room. It’s a full size suv for a reason what in the world were they thinking? Other than that the new sequoia is awesome!
I think it is funny a lot of people say this is the same as the 300 Series lol because "It uses the same platform". Toyota using the same platform does not mean they are the same lol. They are still very different. Toyota modifies the frame for every vehicle. Welds are different, it is shortened, lengthened, made wider, more narrow, and most importantly strengthening and reinforcement is different etc etc. A basic frame doesn't make one vehicle as good as another lol. This is miles from Land Cruiser 300 Series quality lol. I rented a 300 Series while in Australia. It was rock solid! Not a squeak, or anything.
The loss of the full-time 4wd system and the forced hybrid powertrain are the two main reasons I would not consider the Sequoia. If I could get a SR5 TRD OR with no hybrid and it still had full-time 4wd it would be a serious contender.
I think the 4wd is better and it has more power. I don't think it being a hybrid will hurt you either unless you're worried about weight which is still pretty light
My 2013 Sequoia is a great vehicle. I Love it, but I will buy a new one when the rear cargo problem is FINALLY FIXED ( I carry my bicycle inside ). RS. Canada
Two row or three row 2024 GX550 won't have a flat load floor. Not as bad a set up as this Sequoia but still not ideal with the 5" or so raised folded seats above the rear cargo area.
I'm waiting a few years before we consider getting one. I think, Toyota could solve the 3rd row issue by using their Solid State Batteries to replace Nickle-Medal Hydride batteries. The SS Batteries are claimed to be half the size while holding the same amount of charge. I'm guessing we could see a mini-redesign in about 5-7 years like they did with the previous generation. I'd hope they would include the SS batteries.
You don’t need ss batteries. The lithium ones will work great but Toyota said they’re having supply constraints and kept the nmh batteries for now. That’s also what Toyota said at a press event about the issue with the raised cargo floor on the new Land Cruiser.
This is just convincing me to get 2.5 generation tundra and Seqouia Pricing wise and the main features of a SUV = loads of space with flat floor and rear sliding window
Depends on what you will use it for. Personally I'd get this over the last gen, the last gen just looks alone I personally don't care for or the plastic interior.
@@TRDJon oh yeah absolutely. I just car camp and always hauling things Reason why I’ll be opting for the truck but if I don’t it’s going to be SUV. I just don’t know which executive or engineer though it was a genius idea to make a non flat floor I just prefer Simplicity as a 26 year old. I grew up in fancy vehicles my entire life and the stress to worry about keeping something from breaking whether scratch or rip of leather isn’t fun. I do like to wash my cars and deep clean then weekly if possibly.
Really wanted to like the Sequoia for you Jon. Couldn’t do the non-flat back end. We have dogs and it just wouldn’t work for us. Tundra and Sequoia have terrible turn radius.
Yea it's not the best turning, but still was easier to drive then the Tundra cuz of the long wheel base the truck has. But the dogs and space in the back was the driving factor to sell as well.
4000 miles isn't even broken in yet TBH. We have 20k miles on ours so far. We have some small defects on some plastic pieces on the inside that were covered under warranty, but other than that no issues.
Funny you mention the tow mirrors. My wife wants to sell ours for that exact same reason. I agree it’s a bit of a hazard but am confident that others would heed my position for the big white bus. As stated, the power is fantastic and sounds mean. No other issues other than some sunroof rattle going down interstate. On to the next Toyota. Cheers All
As a 6'2" person, backseat of the new tahoes are actually decent. Same goes for jeep wagoneer/grand wagoneer. Also most of the male members in the family are around my height which means rear seat will happen occasionally
I love the look but the price deterred me from trading in my 2021 Trd pro sequoia.. guess I’ll keep it for a while.. I do want to see the new design of the 4Runner
The cargo was a deal breaker for us to update. I feel like it lost its identity and what it really is, a minivan with true truck capabilities which is why we love our 2016 Platinum. My wife daily drives it and the space was a deal breaker. Can’t fit wagons, strollers, dog kennels, multiple suitcases, pack and plays, etc. checks the boxes for many things, but not enough when they can’t do fold flat third row and also dropped the roll down rear window.
The previous gen Sequoia offered a better interior setup specifically pertaining to the 3rd row and rear cargo area alongside having the roll down rear window. These two factors were enough to push us to a lightly used 2nd gen. I am not upset about the V8 either 😇
Hoping they just need to work out the kinks but would be a shame if toyota doesn't stay true to what they built their rep off of. Reliable, functional and really just what you need. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as they need time to dial in the new platforms but I am never selling my 2021 4runner. Might just be the last of the classic, reliable simple 4x4
I think Toyota messed up with those new infotainment screens, yes they look nicer and more functional, but most of the features are subscription based, and always glitches or freezes like a computer.
@@BigAltimaEnergy719 I hear you, the more tech there is, the more issues there potentially are. Especially as they age. Besides apple car play and blue tooth, I really don't use all the different tech options. I can't stand all this subscription based models everybody is trying to move too. Indentured servant lol Nice Frenchie, I have a black brindle one too
@@faheemabbas3965 Hope not! hoping they come out with an electric tacoma to do my daily around town that is reliable. Keep 4runner for off road and long trips
IMO you can't beat a Nissan Armada. The only downside is gas mileage but the V8 is super smooth and quiet and paired with the tranny it is a joy to drive on the open road. You can be doing 75 mph and still be under 2000 rpm. Also they are still made in Japan. The resale on them is bad but that is why buying one a year or 2 old is the way to go. I just bought a 2022 SL for just under $40k. At that price you simply can't get a better large SUV.
Couldn't agree more. I STILL have my 2005 Armada 4wd with 230,000 miles. I bought a 19 Tundra TRD Pro because I needed a newer, less likely to breakdown (only because its newer) ride for x country trips, but I can't sell my Armada. I'm going to keep it and slowly replace everything that typically breaks and keep it forever because by far, it is the most versatile vehicle I've ever had. Love that thing. Holds a ton, tows great and NEVER gear hunts (unlike the Tundra that downshifts going over an ant hill). We call it the Griswold family truckster. Been everywhere with it. Only reason I didn't get a new/newer one, is because I have dogs that would tear up the new/expensive interior. I throw a cap on the truck and the dogs can't destroy the inside of the cab. Trucks too expensive now for me to let them roam the cabin like I could before.
The new Sequoia is really let down by the cargo/third row situation, which is really a shame because the rest of it (minus the tow mirrors) is good/good enough to live with. Toyota IS capable of creating a vehicle/package that meets everyday usefulness. My 20 year old first gen Sequoia has a solution to almost all of the gripes you have with the new truck. Did Toyota just forget how to package effectively or were they hampered too much with engineering and too few development dollars that they couldn't? Maybe after Toyota recoups some development costs from this platform it'll come back with some revisions.
Though I love the all new Sequoia, the old Sequoia was way more practical. The luggage shelf feature to me is a gimmick. Please Toyota make the updated version just as practical as the old Sequoia.
Dude that is awesome out of all you got out of the Sequoia you still made money selling it back. Good move my man! Love my 4Runner and Tesla. Its a good combo
I have money down for a sequoia sr5. Been waiting since December. If I get one soon Im wondering if I can drive it for 8-12 months then trade up to a GX550. Wonder if I could do an even swap and not lose $.
The 3rd row seats in an issue for me, I wish they had made them removable or a better design. I am curious as to what you averaged for MPG's with it. Ive seen some at 15.5 MPG and at the rate I would just get an older Gen Sequoia.
Got about 2K miles on mine now and get 18.5 - 19 mixed driving. I don’t drive crazy fast or anything, but I don’t baby it either. I’m usually the first off the line at a light so I feel like that would be the normal. I tried babying it for about 100 miles and got 19.5 mixed, but I got bored with that really fast.
We love ours . Not getting rid of it. Imagine you would’ve kept with magnetic grey & no 🫎 antlers ..lol Would like see a video on the $s . Bought , sold & you tube revenue . Thnx 🤙🏻
Sounds like Toyota needs to rethink battery design/placement to get the most out of the hybrid without compromising too much of the interior space in the back. Such a shame as it's a nice looking ride.
So... Knowing what you know on how Toyota announces new vehicles when do you think will get info -confirmation, and maybe photos of the new 4runner design?
Hello from California.. I've my little 2004 Sequoia with over 176,000 miles and still in very good engine condition, but the window trimmings started to peel. It's 4.7hp and 19mpg, the back is flat with the 3rd row seats. I love it very much and it fits for my 3 big dogs. I want to buy a new 4runner, will someone give my some advise? I need a smaller car to go for chemo because the hospital parking is too small for my Sequoia. ❤
Not with a 4-cyl turbo it won't. Not many will go from a previous gen V8 and current V6 turbo to a 4 banger. Car companies know what they are doing. Which is why the FJ40 only had 2 doors. A four door version would cannibalize 4Runner sales.
I feel availability and INSANE dealer mark ups killed it as well. I honestly get a 10K mark up, I do. But there were dealers asking 20,30,40K over and that KILLED it's wave.
Man i wish i had these first world problems. Have a 2013 rx and a ram 2013. Still running great but i understand the cargo issue. I have 2 children but no dogs
TL;DS: why did you decide to change it? To me it is obvious that the space is a no for me: no enough cargo, and no adult sized 3rd row seating. So how come you pulled the trigger and within 5 months you decided to change it?
Toyota gotta redeem themselves and fix the cargo room. I know people love the power but people just passing on it or selling it because the cargo room is crucial for them
Hey Jon, great vids on Sequoia and GX550, and I second u getting the GX! Have u or would u make a vid on the process of ordering a next gen veh like u did with the Sequoia. With the 550 8+ mths out, I’m sure I’m not the only one that would like to hear more about how ordering works. Thx
Jon I find you wife insight very very helpful, I am in the market to buy one for my wife, I will keep my tundra, , Im waiting little bit, want to take advantage for tax credit this year, but its going to be my wife daily drive to work 2 miles away from home, we like the concept of 3rd row and the big space,.....now more SUVs coming next year I kind of want to wait also.......the new Lexus is awesome but we will need the 3rd row.......lets wait and see......
How Much I Sold It For: ruclips.net/video/OG-D_WVWWgY/видео.html
Sold it for $65,000 dollars.
@@eddieBoxer wait a minute how much did he buy the car for. this car mark up price way over 65K
Well, I’ll be the naysayer here. I love my Sequoia. The cargo area is what it is and when you really need it, you do miss a flat load floor. For me though, I don’t need it 99% of the time I drive it and when I do need the back, I can make do. I have 5 kids so we always had to use a trailer hitch rack anyway (wife drives a GLS Mercedes). Third row is plenty big like you said, despite what some others have said. Biggest positive is that engine. My only real complaints: 1) I had to get a limited because the Pro doesn’t come with a bench seat (5 kids so it is a necessity) 2) squats like a dog when I tow my 5500 lb boat (seen the Tundras have the same issue). Other than that, I get a smile on my face every time I plant my foot on the gas so I might get premature wrinkles.
😅😅😅. Nice to hear. Smiles actually help your face to grow younger.
Completely agree ❤ you can find a video review of any vehicle where the reviewer is not a fan. Make your own decisions. You're the only one who needs to be happy with the purchase
I hate how they're doing captain seats in everything, now. Bring back the bench
Tbh i went to the dealership and looked at the seqioa and it felt smalller than the previous gen, i could be wrong but it just felt like it. Compared to how the tacoma, rav 4 and tundra now where in they are latger tjan prevoiuse gen l, like the tacoma for example with trd pro the new tacoma almost looks as large as the prevois gen tundra from afar
Great move selling it. I think the messed up cargo area is the deal breaker for me. I’m very excited for the GX!
Then this is the last generation of the Sequoia…
I dont like the new GX design of the seats not folding flat.
@@MUTV2how often will you fold your seats flat though?!
@@Marco-yl8cm Never, it can't be done! But in all honesty I live with my SUV's seats folded down for maximum cargo space and treat it as a two seater 90% of the time.
I would love if I buy one to take the seats right out of the back.
3rd row and rear storage is my main and primary issue for not buying it. Second issue is cost. Toyota has increased pricing upward of $20K for some of these trims. Maybe some of that is warranted but I think most of it is exploiting the economy and pandemic. I'll consider a Grand Highlander, TX or GX though I'm quite, quite happy with our new '23 Lexus GX.
Yep I have a 15 GX, I’ll get an LX over a sequoia
@@kinomorrison8004 what about the new GX?
You mean your 2007 GX w/ a 2023 price tag?😂😂😂😂
Exactly. I can get over the price if it didn't have a 3rd row. I get some people need the 3rd row but many of us do not and would rather the extra cargo space. Toyota should be offering the option remove 3rd row seat and just have a standard bench seat in the rear. makes far more sense.
@@europeanlegend9347 or just allow it to fold outta the way- my wife’s MDX has 3rd row but can disappear
Great content! I'm also a Toyota intusiast. I previously owned a 2004 Tundra SR5 full cab. I enjoyed driving it here on the East Coast, especially during the winter months. The Tundra was quiet & and a great suspension. I currently own a 2014 Camry Hybrid. I'm looking at the incoming Tacoma generation and waiting to see the new look of the 4RUNNER to decide my future purchase. I've tried to look at other brand names, but my heart keeps bringing me to Toyota. 👏🏽👌🏽👍🏽
Agree 100% with everything wrong with the back and hope they don't ruin the next generation 4runner. Love the full window roll down on my Tundra and previous gen Sequoia.
It feel like they really cut down costs yet the price tag doesn't reflect that, might as well go with the new lexus gx or the land cruiser.
GX would be my move for sure.
Well Toyota just screwed every 4 Runner fan out there waiting for the 6th Gen. They took what was supposed to be the 4 Runner and slapped a Land Cruiser batch , add $15K to the price and sorry 4 Runner fans you are out off luck ion you dont have the cash. The 6 Gen 4 Runner will mostly be a Tacoma with a box in the rear, much cheaper and less refinement.
My family bought a Capstone Seqouia. Yes the trunk is not good but we never use the 3rd row so we just put it down when we need more space.
That’s what I was thinking. I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee L and am looking at the new Sequoia. I never use my 3rd row in the L so it stays down for more space
Happy Monday Jon :) I appreciate your honesty and how your authentic telling things how they are
I appreciate that! I aways try to be real. No point in being fake.
100% agree on the back cargo area of the Sequoia, just not a dog friendly design. Also, it would be really educational if you could take us through all the financials of your ownership.
Yea, Like at first it was bad, and its not like it is unlivable, but the more we used it/ owned it, the more we started to realize how not functional it was.
Def need to get the rose gold RX. getting a sequoia for a family is pointless per price. Vans are way better.
@@BALLSOHARDUDepends where you live. Vans suck in the NW.
The Sequoia really needs the base tundra engine and 3rd row delete option. The cargo area is a show stopper
3rd row delete for sure
That cargo area is horrible. I feel like most of us out there don't even need 7 damn seats. What's with all these manufacturers loading up seats in their big SUV's. if i needed that much seating i'd get a damn minivan lol.
@europeanlegend9347 very true, 3rd rows in even large SUV's are basically unusable for anybody over 100lbs. SUV's really need to be more about utility than people moving.
@@europeanlegend9347people have kids and a actual family. Not like you loners that don't even hve a girlfriend and care about vehicles more than life
@@mwsr2521 Think you mean “deal killer”. “Show stopper” is usually a compliment.
The first thing I did to my ‘22 tundra PRO was turn off the fake noise through my lexus scan tool at work. And for the exhaust sound, I think it sounds great also! It’s just loud enough to hear it but it NEVER drones, even when towing. Love that compared to the TRD exhaust on my ‘15 TRD OF I had which droned really bad when towing.
Thanks for sharing!! I wanna try to get the TRD exhaust on my 2023 Platinum long bed.
You beat Untamed’s ownership by 5 months 29 days 😂
LOL hahahah. Yea I wanted to use it and really develop my thoughts on it.
Now he can buy the 2024 Land Cruiser Toyota usa just announced
I think this is the best looking SUV in TRD trim.
Love the 4Runner stalking you, checking out the Sequoia during your whole drive! 😂
Classic hahahah
We had a 2003 sequoia that we loved it was time to sell it to family because we thought we were gonna buy a new one,however, when I saw that screwed up cargo area and the loss of a power roll down back window Toyota made my decision for me . We did not buy one so I guess we wait to see if the fix this issue that many people hate and hopefully they sell an extended version like a Suburban/Expedition/Navigator
I was super excited for this vehicle when they announced and previewed it. But, after finally seeing one in person, this is NOT the one for me. I have two kids, two dogs, and a whole leap of gear to haul on family trips for camping, paddle boarding, etc. Even without bringing dogs, I can’t imagine how it all fits. Shoot, I don’t even think our luggage would all fit even for just a long road trip. And then zero improvement in any of the cargo hauling areas over my 4Runner for that price?! Nah. Grand Highlander it is. The 4Runner is still the outdoor trip champ. A Grand Highlander can handle the rest.
Perfect garage combo right there!
Try a Tahoe z71
You might need to get a hybrid max to do all of that stuff.
It is great to drive, the killer for me is the back cargo space set up. After actually seeing it and test driving it I realized how not functional it would be for my lifestyle.
Yea it's super unfortunate that this is the caveat for alot of buyers
We’re a family of 4 with 2 dogs that camps. We agreed that the back was the deal breaker for us. like most we wish it folded flat to fit dogs, stack coolers etc.. looking at the new GX
New GX will have tons of room!
No it doesn’t!
He wants that new GX that's why.
You read me like a book
When you have a ton of money to flash and throw away you can buy a new vehicle every 5 months, me I'm so broke I make a mugger cry.
@@TRDJonjust tried the GX550 and Land Cruiser, for a family vehicle I like the Sequoia better. GX and Land Cruiser are smaller than I thought they’d be, felt smaller than a 4 runner. My two kids liked the Sequoia or LX better, LX600 was more than I’m willing to spend on a daily driver. And surprisingly the LX was slower than the Sequoia and transmission didn’t feel as smooth. GX is nicer than the Land Cruiser, Land Cruiser’s 4 hybrid wasn’t as smooth as the 6 hybrid of the Sequoia and shifted much harder with that 4 cylinder whine.
The 3rd row and cargo area was a deal breaker for me. With 2 kids and a 100lb bernedoodle it wouldn't have worked. Keeping my 4runner for a while. The GX is looking positive without the hybrid.
The 5th gen 4Runner creeping in the back the whole time admiring the sequoia 😂
I’ve got a 2024 sequoia.
Third row is super roomy and I’m 6’2.
Ride is pretty smooth, but you notice when the road is pretty rough, all in all not bad though.
The complaints I hear about the storage in the back is valid, but I haven’t found anything I can’t put back there yet. It not being “flat” to the deck is only really a complaint for people who don’t want to lift something a foot and a half higher really, other than that it’s perfectly fine.
Gas mileage in eco mode is pretty good for its size.
Sport Mode is fun. You can really feel Those twin turbos and often times when getting up and going I’ll glance down and go “whoops I’m doing 100mph”.
All in all it’s an amazing suv and a head turner
how do you buy a new car from a dealership, then turn around after 6 months and sell it used for a profit? new cars start depreciating as soon as you leave the dealership.
I really like your content - being a Toyota enthusiast as well. I purchased my first one, new in 1983, a Toyota Hilux Truck. Love `em! Currently waiting on my latest 4Runner - a TRD Off Road Premium with XP Predator Package. Also, living a little over 4 hours away from the Gulf Coast, I love getting to see all the familiar scenery from PC Beach to Fort Walton. I recognized in this video that you were driving across the bridge from Okaloosa Island into downtown Fort Walton. The Hightide Seafood Restaurant and Oyster Bar on the left as you are going over the bridge from the beach is one of our favorites and has been there a long time. Subscribed
Thanks man!!! See you around!
Fayrona isnt lonely. Little brother Taco and big brother Tundra is still here
You Right!!!
This is a great video. I was having second thoughts about my '23 tundra... but I've now been "talked out" of trading it in for a Sequoia.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I finally got see one in person at my local dealership in the same color the other day and does it look good. I'd pass though on the cargo space myself. Having a 2016 4Runner shows that I'd probably get annoyed with lack of a roll down window and folding seats the current Sequoia has haha.
3rd row seat/storage is why I have not upgraded from my 21 Sequoia. I was so stoked for this vehicle and figured like Tundra they would offer a non-hybrid option. But instead I am forced into hybrid and 3rd row that does not fold flat. Total market fail by Toyota. Only 14% of families need a 3rd row seat. But over 50% have 3 kids or less and a dog. Hoping they figure it out in a future model year.
You’re right about the turning radius and parking challenges. Many times I could barely making a u turn at some intersections. I love the truck but a Tacoma maybe more manageable. I am thinking about trading in my 23 TRD Tundra for the new Tacoma.
Yea Tundra is a beast to park it seems
Don't do it in 4 wheel drive either lmao, you loose half of that turning radius 🤣🤣
@@TRDJonYou have to slide the back end around for quick u turns.
Love my Limited 23 TRD off-road Tundra but I have to tuck in mirrors to fit in garage. I wouldn’t buy a Sequoia because of not enough luggage space for a long vacation.
As a frequent user of strollers, the higher floor would have been a deal breaker. Glad we stuck with our 2018 Big Tree…
Yea not the best.
The Moose 🫎 Antler mirrors actually grew on me? 🤷♂️
Underrated comment...
hahahah, I'm glad they did for somebody
Those dang mirrors, lol ...
Insane right... haha
Looks like Mickey Mouse ears
Americans are never satisfied silver spoon in hand, being hand fed.
@@eddieBoxer you're weird 😂
Crazy trd Jon went from normal guy who bought a cav blue 4Runner to an auto journalist and one of the best on RUclips for Toyota ish…. Toyota needs to hire you as a pr guy
I appreciate you bro! Thank you for the continued support.
I have a 2023 Chevy Tahoe Z71. I love it. 3rd row stows flat, 4x4 is more than capable. Bose sound system sounds amazing. Only grip is the gas ⛽️ mileage
Same truck with the Z71 off road package our two Dobermans love the Tahoe!
Bet it won't last up to 200,000 miles
@@rawcircokingsays the man in his Nissan with the windshield wipers not working. Stick to arm day and video games 🎮. Get money 💰
@@DGYtown lmao I must of really struck a chord the fact you had to look up an old video. Anyways clearly your in your feelings that my nissian will outlast your chevy.
@@rawcircokingdidn’t really strike a cord just kinda weird your talking shit when your car sucks ass. I bet you still have that shitty Nissan.
Love my 2020 trd pro sequoia got no problems at all.
Paid msrp 66k.
Local dealer wants 87k for a 2024 think I’ll hang on to my 2020
Kind of disappointing that the sequoia has horrible rear cargo room. It’s a full size suv for a reason what in the world were they thinking? Other than that the new sequoia is awesome!
Perfectly put. Just the more we used it, the more it became apparent that it was it's set back.
Can you replace the new Tundra's front bumper and grille with the new Sequoia's front bumper and grille combo?
Yes. There has been a shop that has done it
I think it is funny a lot of people say this is the same as the 300 Series lol because "It uses the same platform". Toyota using the same platform does not mean they are the same lol. They are still very different. Toyota modifies the frame for every vehicle. Welds are different, it is shortened, lengthened, made wider, more narrow, and most importantly strengthening and reinforcement is different etc etc. A basic frame doesn't make one vehicle as good as another lol. This is miles from Land Cruiser 300 Series quality lol. I rented a 300 Series while in Australia. It was rock solid! Not a squeak, or anything.
I hear about the cargo space, yet the full size 3rd how has come in handy many, many times! Are the 2024 models any different?
The loss of the full-time 4wd system and the forced hybrid powertrain are the two main reasons I would not consider the Sequoia. If I could get a SR5 TRD OR with no hybrid and it still had full-time 4wd it would be a serious contender.
I think the 4wd is better and it has more power. I don't think it being a hybrid will hurt you either unless you're worried about weight which is still pretty light
My 2013 Sequoia is a great vehicle. I Love it, but I will buy a new one when the rear cargo problem is FINALLY FIXED ( I carry my bicycle inside ).
RS. Canada
Im in the market for my first ever Sequoia. Definitely sticking with Gen 2 and hoping that 3rd gen gets a refresh to fix things later down the line.
It will for sure
Glad to hear the white paint held up for 4K miles.
Well it’s white Toyota paint which is notorious for being bad. Which is why I mentioned it.
Ya that back seat issue due to the hybrid made it a no go for me as well.
Two row or three row 2024 GX550 won't have a flat load floor. Not as bad a set up as this Sequoia but still not ideal with the 5" or so raised folded seats above the rear cargo area.
I'm waiting a few years before we consider getting one. I think, Toyota could solve the 3rd row issue by using their Solid State Batteries to replace Nickle-Medal Hydride batteries. The SS Batteries are claimed to be half the size while holding the same amount of charge. I'm guessing we could see a mini-redesign in about 5-7 years like they did with the previous generation. I'd hope they would include the SS batteries.
Hoping so as well
You don’t need ss batteries. The lithium ones will work great but Toyota said they’re having supply constraints and kept the nmh batteries for now. That’s also what Toyota said at a press event about the issue with the raised cargo floor on the new Land Cruiser.
I would love to know how much you purchased and sold it for?!?! Please tell us!
For sure! If the demand is there I'll be more than happy to!
This is just convincing me to get 2.5 generation tundra and Seqouia
Pricing wise and the main features of a SUV = loads of space with flat floor and rear sliding window
Depends on what you will use it for. Personally I'd get this over the last gen, the last gen just looks alone I personally don't care for or the plastic interior.
@@TRDJon oh yeah absolutely.
I just car camp and always hauling things
Reason why I’ll be opting for the truck but if I don’t it’s going to be SUV. I just don’t know which executive or engineer though it was a genius idea to make a non flat floor
I just prefer Simplicity as a 26 year old. I grew up in fancy vehicles my entire life and the stress to worry about keeping something from breaking whether scratch or rip of leather isn’t fun. I do like to wash my cars and deep clean then weekly if possibly.
I guess you live in Florida but the lack of auto 4wd is a deal breaker for us Canadians. Specially at this price point
I do yes.
Making room for the new Lexus GX550?
Really wanted to like the Sequoia for you Jon. Couldn’t do the non-flat back end. We have dogs and it just wouldn’t work for us. Tundra and Sequoia have terrible turn radius.
Yea it's not the best turning, but still was easier to drive then the Tundra cuz of the long wheel base the truck has. But the dogs and space in the back was the driving factor to sell as well.
That the toughest Toyota iv ever seen bruh besides the new Tundra i fucking love it. I can get past the little shit. Shit looks hard af like a Tahoe
4000 miles isn't even broken in yet TBH. We have 20k miles on ours so far. We have some small defects on some plastic pieces on the inside that were covered under warranty, but other than that no issues.
Funny you mention the tow mirrors. My wife wants to sell ours for that exact same reason. I agree it’s a bit of a hazard but am confident that others would heed my position for the big white bus. As stated, the power is fantastic and sounds mean. No other issues other than some sunroof rattle going down interstate. On to the next Toyota. Cheers All
The problem with those tow mirrors is they can't retract and become regular mirrors.
They just look sooooo bad on the Sequoia
As a 6'2" person, backseat of the new tahoes are actually decent. Same goes for jeep wagoneer/grand wagoneer.
Also most of the male members in the family are around my height which means rear seat will happen occasionally
It’s cool you made money on it. 👍 I was a bit confused how swapping cars so fast was feasible.
I mean 6 months yea. It’s not a long time but not super super quick
I love the look but the price deterred me from trading in my 2021 Trd pro sequoia.. guess I’ll keep it for a while.. I do want to see the new design of the 4Runner
The cargo was a deal breaker for us to update. I feel like it lost its identity and what it really is, a minivan with true truck capabilities which is why we love our 2016 Platinum. My wife daily drives it and the space was a deal breaker. Can’t fit wagons, strollers, dog kennels, multiple suitcases, pack and plays, etc. checks the boxes for many things, but not enough when they can’t do fold flat third row and also dropped the roll down rear window.
The previous gen Sequoia offered a better interior setup specifically pertaining to the 3rd row and rear cargo area alongside having the roll down rear window. These two factors were enough to push us to a lightly used 2nd gen. I am not upset about the V8 either 😇
Hoping they just need to work out the kinks but would be a shame if toyota doesn't stay true to what they built their rep off of. Reliable, functional and really just what you need. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as they need time to dial in the new platforms but I am never selling my 2021 4runner. Might just be the last of the classic, reliable simple 4x4
I think Toyota messed up with those new infotainment screens, yes they look nicer and more functional, but most of the features are subscription based, and always glitches or freezes like a computer.
@@BigAltimaEnergy719 I hear you, the more tech there is, the more issues there potentially are. Especially as they age. Besides apple car play and blue tooth, I really don't use all the different tech options. I can't stand all this subscription based models everybody is trying to move too. Indentured servant lol Nice Frenchie, I have a black brindle one too
The end of Toyota reliability?
@@faheemabbas3965 Hope not! hoping they come out with an electric tacoma to do my daily around town that is reliable. Keep 4runner for off road and long trips
See I never had issues at all with the screens. Worked like 99% of the time
IMO you can't beat a Nissan Armada. The only downside is gas mileage but the V8 is super smooth and quiet and paired with the tranny it is a joy to drive on the open road. You can be doing 75 mph and still be under 2000 rpm. Also they are still made in Japan. The resale on them is bad but that is why buying one a year or 2 old is the way to go. I just bought a 2022 SL for just under $40k. At that price you simply can't get a better large SUV.
Couldn't agree more. I STILL have my 2005 Armada 4wd with 230,000 miles. I bought a 19 Tundra TRD Pro because I needed a newer, less likely to breakdown (only because its newer) ride for x country trips, but I can't sell my Armada. I'm going to keep it and slowly replace everything that typically breaks and keep it forever because by far, it is the most versatile vehicle I've ever had. Love that thing. Holds a ton, tows great and NEVER gear hunts (unlike the Tundra that downshifts going over an ant hill). We call it the Griswold family truckster. Been everywhere with it. Only reason I didn't get a new/newer one, is because I have dogs that would tear up the new/expensive interior. I throw a cap on the truck and the dogs can't destroy the inside of the cab. Trucks too expensive now for me to let them roam the cabin like I could before.
The new Sequoia is really let down by the cargo/third row situation, which is really a shame because the rest of it (minus the tow mirrors) is good/good enough to live with. Toyota IS capable of creating a vehicle/package that meets everyday usefulness. My 20 year old first gen Sequoia has a solution to almost all of the gripes you have with the new truck. Did Toyota just forget how to package effectively or were they hampered too much with engineering and too few development dollars that they couldn't? Maybe after Toyota recoups some development costs from this platform it'll come back with some revisions.
Though I love the all new Sequoia, the old Sequoia was way more practical. The luggage shelf feature to me is a gimmick. Please Toyota make the updated version just as practical as the old Sequoia.
Love the roar of those fighters in the background. Sounds like f22’s or f35’s
Yep!
Dude that is awesome out of all you got out of the Sequoia you still made money selling it back. Good move my man! Love my 4Runner and Tesla. Its a good combo
Awesome garage combo bro!
that rear cargo area is a total disaster! Finally the gx550 is good!
I have the limited. My wife loves it. If we had tow mirrors, I would have swapped them out.
I have money down for a sequoia sr5. Been waiting since December. If I get one soon Im wondering if I can drive it for 8-12 months then trade up to a GX550. Wonder if I could do an even swap and not lose $.
The 3rd row seats in an issue for me, I wish they had made them removable or a better design. I am curious as to what you averaged for MPG's with it. Ive seen some at 15.5 MPG and at the rate I would just get an older Gen Sequoia.
Got about 2K miles on mine now and get 18.5 - 19 mixed driving. I don’t drive crazy fast or anything, but I don’t baby it either. I’m usually the first off the line at a light so I feel like that would be the normal. I tried babying it for about 100 miles and got 19.5 mixed, but I got bored with that really fast.
@@bm3z516 18-19 is not bad for a vehicle of that size, Thanks for sharing.
Ours was solid at 19.6 ish
How can you stop the xtra exhaust noise on the trd pro i have one
Carista little unit. I have a video on my channel where I did it with my Tundra
We love ours . Not getting rid of it. Imagine you would’ve kept with magnetic grey & no 🫎 antlers ..lol
Would like see a video on the $s . Bought , sold & you tube revenue . Thnx 🤙🏻
If it was SOlar Octane with no moose it would have been very, very hard to sell. I love it.
Sounds like Toyota needs to rethink battery design/placement to get the most out of the hybrid without compromising too much of the interior space in the back. Such a shame as it's a nice looking ride.
Yes sir!
There was a 4Runner in your driver side blind spot. 🙂
How could you not see the problems with the reduced height cargo area before you bought it?
I did. I reviewed this vehicle plenty of times on my channel prior. But you don't really know untill you live with it for a while
Any reason why the 2nd row cannot move fore/aft?
Batteries is my guess
So... Knowing what you know on how Toyota announces new vehicles when do you think will get info -confirmation, and maybe photos of the new 4runner design?
Hello from California.. I've my little 2004 Sequoia with over 176,000 miles and still in very good engine condition, but the window trimmings started to peel. It's 4.7hp and 19mpg, the back is flat with the 3rd row seats. I love it very much and it fits for my 3 big dogs. I want to buy a new 4runner, will someone give my some advise? I need a smaller car to go for chemo because the hospital parking is too small for my Sequoia. ❤
I owned a 2008 tundra from new 5.7 L loved that truck fullied loaded at the time. dont need trucks anymore drive M cars.
Yeah, good move! The Sequoia started off strong but, in my opinion it’s fading away fast.. The new 4Runner is going to take buyers away from it…
Not with a 4-cyl turbo it won't. Not many will go from a previous gen V8 and current V6 turbo to a 4 banger. Car companies know what they are doing. Which is why the FJ40 only had 2 doors. A four door version would cannibalize 4Runner sales.
I feel availability and INSANE dealer mark ups killed it as well. I honestly get a 10K mark up, I do. But there were dealers asking 20,30,40K over and that KILLED it's wave.
@@TRDJon used base model sequoias were going for like $90k I think.
And that was for a USED base model.
Well I'm glad I watched this video! The storage area is a deal breaker for me.
Man i wish i had these first world problems. Have a 2013 rx and a ram 2013. Still running great but i understand the cargo issue. I have 2 children but no dogs
This SUV is underrated as everyone is focused on the Land Cruiser 300. This thing is like a Mutated Land Cruiser
How can there be blind spot when there's two mirrors ?
TL;DS: why did you decide to change it? To me it is obvious that the space is a no for me: no enough cargo, and no adult sized 3rd row seating. So how come you pulled the trigger and within 5 months you decided to change it?
time to get rid of it and get the japanese gx 550
Yesssssss
I mean... there's a battery under there so how are the seats going to be flat?? I feel like that's something someone would consider when purchasing.
You can’t test drive a vehicle for a week and do daily stuff with it to truly know if you will like it or not…
Toyota gotta redeem themselves and fix the cargo room. I know people love the power but people just passing on it or selling it because the cargo room is crucial for them
Exactly, can have all the power in the would, but if it ain't functional, then who cares.
Wow! Paint held up after 4k miles! Great job
Toyota white paint isnt the best.
@@TRDJonwhat about the pearl?
Can the rear seat be removed easily? ( grand kids it would be handy)
No it can’t
Hey Jon, great vids on Sequoia and GX550, and I second u getting the GX! Have u or would u make a vid on the process of ordering a next gen veh like u did with the Sequoia. With the 550 8+ mths out, I’m sure I’m not the only one that would like to hear more about how ordering works. Thx
For sure I can try to document the process!!
Jon I find you wife insight very very helpful, I am in the market to buy one for my wife, I will keep my tundra, , Im waiting little bit, want to take advantage for tax credit this year, but its going to be my wife daily drive to work 2 miles away from home, we like the concept of 3rd row and the big space,.....now more SUVs coming next year I kind of want to wait also.......the new Lexus is awesome but we will need the 3rd row.......lets wait and see......
Glad to help. Yea new GX, LC, and even the Grandhighlander too
The cargo area is an epic fail. What were they thinking?
at what speed does it switch to gas mode
Noti gang on deck
LFG!!!!!
GX is better looking and looks more useful. Get the 2024 GX Jon!!!
Ya??? If you guys wanna see it then I will make it happen.
GX 550 Overtrail for the win! Let’s go! 😊
@@TRDJon just buycm it after I buy mine! Get in line! Lol
@@TRDJon as long as your wife is okay with it like the RX and Highlander
lol
What did you think about the gas mileage?
can you run the ac with the engine off? if so, for how long?
Yes you can. The engine will turn back on if needed. A/C will never turn off.