US OPEN POWER RANKINGS, Zverev's Tear Continues in Cincinnati | Monday Match Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- We gear up for the 2021 US Open with the first and only installment of the USO Power Rankings. Find out if anyone tops Novak Djokovic, who leads the NowGen between Alexander Zverev, Daniil Medvedev, Andrey Rublev and Stefanos Tsitsipas, and where players like Jannik Sinner, Denis Shapovalov and Pablo Carreno Busta land. In the second leg of the show, Gill breaks down Zverev's new and improved shot, which has helped him to 11 straight victories. And since it's always mental with Zverev, his mindset heading into New York is also covered at length.
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You mistakenly said Djokovic has won 2 of his 7 US Open finals. He has actually won 3 of his 8 US Open finals. Here's the list:
2007 - Finalist - lost to Federer
2010 - Finalist - lost to Nadal
2011 - Champion - defeated Nadal
2012 - Finalist - lost to Murray
2013 - Finalist - lost to Nadal
2015 - Champion - defeated Federer
2016 - Finalist - lost to Wawrinka
2018 - Champion - defeated del Potro
Just thought I'd add some interesting tidbits abt some of them off the top of my head, for context/fun.
2010: Saved match points vs Fed, 5 sets
2011: Saved match points vs Fed, 5 sets
2012: Very windy, Murray's first slam
2013: 5 sets vs Wawrinka in the semi Nadal beat Gasquet 3-0 in the other semi. Nadal also won Canada and Cincinnati this year.
2015: Federer had quite a few opportunities to break but didn't convert
2016: Had a few walkovers/retirements, very odd match vs Monfils in the semis, also somewhat injured. Last grand slam final until Wimbledon 2018.
2018: Millman beat Federer, Nadal retired with a knee injury vs del Potro in the semis.
These are not to cheapen or exaggerate his results, it's just some trivia of a few noteworthy things I remember happening.
@@bloat1235 Thanks! I didn't know he played a 5-setter against Wawrinka in the 2013 semis. I knew they had some crazy 5-set epics at the Australian Open but I hadn't known about this US Open meeting. I'll have to check it out!
@@Daniel-od6ft that's what made it easy for Rafa in the final. Plus, Rafa was back after a long injury layoff, and was winning everything in '13. 😃
@@rahultntn9086 yeah novak would have given a much tougher fight if he was fresh. Would have been a five set epic. However, i think nadal would have still taken it imo. He was playing insanely good in that american hard court season and had already won toronto and cincinatti, beating both fed and nole. But djoker would have pushed him to his limit if not for that stan semi marathon. Just my opinion tho
I think he said *last* seven *appearances*, meaning not only finals.
These pre-grandslam player form previews just get more and more professional every time. Keep it up and I have no doubt that one day I'll tune into a mainstream US Open broadcast and hear you breaking things down with the best of them.
Imo Gill is already miles ahead of "the best of them" you'rereferencing.
Man, I can't help but feel worried for Nole; It's like these young guns have tasted blood and are now ready to go after the jugular vein. I'm happy to see Marian Vajda with him - he seems to have a calming, reassuring effect on Novak. I still believe a calm, confident Djokovic is unbeatable. I'm banking on his experience + skills to see him through to the victorious end.
This is why Djokovic's losses at the Olympics matter. Other players feel that they can defeat him and several know that they can. This combined with his poor decision to skip both Toronto and Cincinnati, the fact that he has a 3-5 finals record at the USO, and several other reasons, make me believe he is vulnerable at the USO - yes, he may win, but he also may not win!
@@freemangriffin4953 BO5 is a completely different kettle of fish to BO3. We saw what happened with Tsitsipas at RG being 2 sets up. Unless they beat him in a BOF5, it doesn't mean shit.
@@freemangriffin4953 they have to prove they can beat him over the best of 5 sets. Tokyo was an aberration- due to the brutally hot, humid conditions- Novak's Achilles heel. He has rested now and is usually at his best after a humiliating defeat. He rarely loses to the same person 2 times in a row.
1. Djokovic
- Who else could it be? He has won the last three grand slams and will be going into this well-rested. Hard courts are his best surface. He has the early rounds to play himself into form.
2. Medvedev
- This is one of Medvedevs favorite surfaces and he excels on hard. He made the finals of the 2019 USO and 2021 AO. Moreover, he just won the Roger's cup. If not for an untimely crash into a camera, he likely would have won Cincinnatti. I don't see anybody outside of Djokovic beating the Russian if he is in good form.
3. Zverev
- He has been on a recent tear, winning the Olympics and Cincinnatti. He has been scary good in best of three tournaments.The question remains if he can do it in a best of five format.
4. Tsitsipas
- He made the AO semis, French Open finals and the Cincinnati semis. He is a great talent. The question remains if he can get his head together in the big matches.
5. Any Dark horse
Just couple of corrections:
Medvedev made finals of the 2019 USO, 2020 he was beaten by Thiem in the semis
Tsitsipas lost at Cincinnati semis this year
@@milosavmikibrajkovic1103 Yeah, I just realized my typos. I meant 2019 USO and Cincy semis.
Tip for a dark horse: Humbert. Won against Med, Sasha and Stef already (good indication with them as favourites)
You are the best unbiased tennis analyst on the RUclips Gill Gross kudos to you, always enjoyable, wish you would do the WTA as well
There will be 96 breaks of serve in the upcoming WTA match. There's all the analysis you'll ever need on WTA tennis.
Would like a video essay on how the future of Tsitsipas if his dad stays his head coach. On how some family units were a succes up to a point and how many family units weren’t suited for maturing and individualizations which is demanded by the nature of the sport as a duel between persons mental games.
Your Power Rankings are pretty fair. In fact the top four are just what I imagined (in that order). And I agree with you regarding Tsitsipas; he cannot cut the cord! The recent restroom break incident at Cincy may be evident of that. Also with Zverev although he has been awesome since Tokyo, I am not very convinced either when it comes to the grand slams. Maybe winning the Olympics and and Cincinnati will change him. We'll find out soon enough. What dedication, Gill, broadcasting from your hotel room 😀.
Nobody is more skilled, experienced and motivated than Novak. After that I would put an in form Medvedev to get to the final. As long as he takes his meds (i.e. keeps his temper in check) he can beat everyone until he gets to the Serb. Then we'll see.
Djokovic will need to hold his temper too! (;
Tremendous analysis.
Expect no less from you. :D
Medvedev has only lost to Djokovic, Thiem, Nadal and Wawrinka on hard court grand slams since 2019 AO. They all have won US open. That’s some awesome stats for Medvedev. Good luck to him this time. Only has to get past Djokovic this time. Rest all past US open winners are either not playing or completely lost after injury.
He will probably lose to the eventual winner again. Could be a new winner ie. Zverev.
@@iceescape I hope he does but I feel Djokovic will be the winner in the end. Plus when it comes to Thiem winning, I feel he got lucky since he didn't have to go through Djokovic last year,
I do feel like it's his time. We'll see. Would love to see Djokovic get the grand slam and his 21st slam.
What if Djokovic doesn't make it to the final? I don't think he will. Medvedev is going to win the USO this year.
@@iceescape What makes you think that Zverev can beat Medvedev in a grand slam final?
Gill Gross leading the list of tennis channels as always.
Something I've been wondering on Hubi: do you think he'd do well to get more aggressive and try to hit fast winners more often (not like Shapo, but looking for the opportunity a bit more). Though, you point out something that I guess I noticed but not so specifically - he plays an odd game. His rather unique mix of baseline rallies + cutting to the net with cool, calm, long strides makes it hard to play him and hard to forecast how he'll do. Same for his returns, where he can seemingly reach a lot with those wings but is inconsistent on where he returns the ball - sometimes in ridiculous corners with the touch of a fairy, sometimes out or into the net. Think this is a key reason I like watching him so much. His game is different, has odd elements. Also, watching him vs. Medvedev is a total blast. So similar, but obviously not entirely.
He would need to improve his racquet speed in order to play bigger from the back of the court. I don't think he's capable right now. As long as he moves forward to finish, I don't think it's a huge problem.
Gill great job. I was thinking Zverev would be #2, I have to agree #3, he had Rublev giving up and had a very bad service game serving for the championship in Cincinnati. That certainly reminded me broken Zverev is still in there, but he's very close to dominating.
I saw Novak in 2014 and 2015 FO circum to the pressure in the finals, both slams I think he should have won, if he was mentally the giant he is at AO or WO.
That being said, he's the best at making up for a dud performance, 2020 US Open was a dud.
Novak has been showing the world for 10 years, he belongs with the greats of the game. Winning the Calender Year Grand Slam on 3 surfaces and in the era of the Big 3...GOAT undisputed KO.
Hope Djokovic will get his career grand slam, but I am afraid after the Olympics. We shall see. By the way, Gill, I respect your analysis. It seems to always be well-thought out and fair.
Been waiting for this for so long.
I’m tired of reading comments about Tsitsipas being coached in the bathroom. This is a stunt from Zverev to get the crowd behind him and to cause issues for Tsitsipas. There is no proof that he did that. Everyone gets on their phones during intervals and breaks. That doesn’t mean their cheating. But I agree that these long bathroom breaks need to stop. It isn’t doing him any favours with the spectators and media. But he wasn’t the only one doing it. If he needs to take a break then make it quick and get back under 5 minutes. As for my predictions, I have Tsitsipas in 3rd, Medvedev 2nd and Djokovic winning. As for Zverev, he was luck winning the match against Tsitsipas. Late in the 3rd set, Tsitsipas loss his 1st serve and Zverev was able to come back. If they face each other again in a 5 setter, Tsitsipas will probably take revenge.
It's Wednesday Match Analysis now.
No matter what happens I don’t think anyone can argue against this data backed pre-tournament analysis
Thanks Gill, Do think the recency bias will play out in a good way in this USO-21. I think he will be tested and will reach down and rise to the occassion. As far as how well and long he can do this for especially given the Thursday TBD draw results, that remains to be seen. I think Sasha could very well up his mindset game this USO-21. Assuming that the USO-21 draw is based on 1-Nole; 2-Danil; 3-Stefanos & 4-Sasha, then most likely Danil & Sasha would meet before either faced Nole and I don't think that Stefanos can take out a healthy, motivated and focused Nole. But, that's 8-10 days away. Again thanks Gill! Well done:) Best, Milan
I am in full agreeance regarding Medvedev's weaknesses and getting frustrated and how he too quickly deteriorates in the face of adversity at times. I wondered the same thing too about his match against Bublik; the break maybe saved him there? I also fully agree regarding Rublev and what he must do to go deeper in majors. You made your case against Zverev and a fair amount of it hinges on the loss at Wimbledon. But grass is his worst surface at this point in his career and he lacks needed experience on it. The serving woes have looked out the window for a while now and I think it's the case he is a much more clutch player at this point. Plus I have a feeling that he has faced down some things in his personal life and that has made a difference as well. I think your off base on Zverev, but I thought you made some great points on the others.
It may be thanks to his forehand down the line opening the court, but he won a lot of crosscourt forehand exchanges in Cincinnati. He was hitting them early and fairly dominant.
Who would have guessed Carlos Alcaraz and Botic van de Zandschulp would make it to the quarter-finals? Brooksby, Otte and Harris all have chances to join those two today. This has been such an exciting USO!!!!
I was hoping Carlos would have a deep run and now that is happening I am so incredibly happy! Even if he doesn't make it to the semis, but I think he has a strong chance to get there over FAA, this has been a major breakthrough! Beating the #3 in the world, consolidating it with a win in the Round of 16 - I am so looking forward to watching his career unfold! There will be ups and downs over the next 3-4 years but if there are more ups than downs that is what will matter! He has the POTENTIAL to be a great player! I haven't been this excited since Rafa in 2004!
Great Ranking. Med is 2 at ATP ranking so he couldn’t fight against Djoko before the final. Is that an advantage ? I think so
when us open preview sir gill?
my favourites are Zverev, Medvedev, Djokovic in that order based on recent form. Djoker always underperforms in USO due to injuries at end of season and this current USO is no exception
Djoker seems to be coming into this one fresher than ever. Do you think the injury he's picked up at the olympics will prevent him from completing the grand salami? As for Zverev, I had him as a pick to win a number of Grand slams already, but his abysmal 2020 uso final performance makes me not believe him to be capable of delivering until he actually does it.
@@viagetty2743 my sense is that Djokers issue is with his shoulder, hence his poor serving lately
Thank God there are no more line umpires in hard court slams. Why the hell were they still using 1800s technology in 2020.
Djokovic
Zverev
Medvedev
Tsitsipas
Hurkacz
@Gill really surprised you put Shapovalov 10th instead of Ruud who beats anyone out of top 15 consistently and that can get him to round 4. While Shapo has lost I think 4 matches in a row since Wimby.
Assume it's because Ruud hasn't shown he can beat the top guys much (esp. on hard courts), Shapo is highly unpredictable but deadly as all hell if he's hot, and Shapo better suited to the courts.
Great stuff as always mate!
Gill - I have always enjoyed your content. This time though, I felt you were reading a lot of content and did not feel natural. Hope you can reverse to your earlier way of delivering your content.. A real fan of yours!!
hmm, I got your points on Zverev's fragility, but in my personal opinion: he is ready. I guess we'll see soon enough.
Alexander Zverev has the biggest potential for me. followed by Danii, Tsitsipas and Berrattinni, looks like we we will be seeing more of these. Ofcourse is in a higher notch and the only way these four would beat Novak is he is not in his best form mentally and physcially.
FAA not mentioned?
Gill Gross, the courts at the US Open are slow enough for Casper Rudd to make the quarter finals. Agree?
Nope, Casper Ruud "Dude with a 'Tude" will not make the quarter-finals.
Good question. Probably draw dependent.
I just noticed that only 5 of your 14 in your power rankings are still in it (in the middle of the round of 16) and at least 1 of them won't make it to the QF's.
Wait a second - Tsitsipas has maturing to do emotionally?
:D
I would put Auger at number 6 instead of Carreno Busta.
2 mistakes : Replace Rublev and PCB , with Hurkach and Khachanov
What I have to say about Alexandar Zverev is that during the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, some smart Japanese cameraman took advantage of moments when he and Novak Djokovic changed their T-shirts, at different times, and he filmed their necklaces with pendants and then put them on as a picture side by side, not without reason. Novak Djokovic had his wooden cross on his chest, and Alexander Zverev had two hanging things. One was a beautiful gold coin ducat and the other one, which looked to me like a talisman, had something very ugly in its content, like some disgusting petrified beetle from the Egyptian pharaonic times, but which could have some magical power to Zverev, so doesn’t matter if it is so ugly?...
It's pretty obvious the final will most likely be between Alexander Zverev and Novak Djokovic. Unless Meryl Streep the lineswoman does another Oscar-winning performance. (Tbf that could actually happen 😆 🤣!! Diving for Glory: The Sequel)
I don’t see it happening. Zverev will lose to either Djoko or Medvedev in semis depending on which side of the draw he is.
I would still put my money on Medvedev over Zverev. Since Medvedev came into his own(2019 to present), he has won the last 4 out of 5 matches vs Zverev.
Nothing obvious at all about Zverev making the final. He’s still yet to beat a top 10 player at a grand slam in his whole career, and he’ll likely have to beat one or maybe two to make the final. Medvedev is much more battle tested at slams and Tsitsipas is better physically.
Anyone willing to make bold predictions that we can come back to after the tournament? 🤔
Medvedev abuses Abuserev and chokes out the Cheatvak enroute to winning the trophy!
@@goldwolf0606 😆 like Medvedev choked out Djokovic at the Australian Open final??
Djokovic won't be in the final and Medvedev is going to win the USO this year.
@@drtash21 Cheatvak Steroidovic stole the trophy from meddy bear!!!
@@goldwolf0606 Haha 😄 😆 CALL THE POLICE!!HE STOLE MY TROPHY 😭!!
Here we go again. Let's roll back to Zverev v Djoko at Auz Open 2021 which Gill dismissed as unimportant. 26 likes later he had to respond to the err of his ways, and what has happened since then:
1. Djokovic and his new serve went on to win three slams
2. Zverev has emerged as his #1 threat winning Acapulco, Madrid, strong SF at RG, Olympic Gold, and The Real Slam (aka Cincy.)
Once again Gill has lost the plot with Zverev or did he ever have it?
Zverev can definitely challenge and beat Novak, if in great form. Medvedev if he is in top form can also beat him especially if Novak is bothered by the heat and humidity. I bet on the field to win
C'mon man, please don't do the newscaster voice here, lol. It's a much better listen, when you're speaking naturally. Love the analysis, as always.
It's funny but when the US Open begins Naomi Osaka will grab most of the attention rather than the men's side. I hope she wins it but it's looking doubtful based on recent matches.
6:05 Inter Interi adjectives.
again 40+ min video with no highlights of topics with time in it ... cmon man... it's 1min job to do in order to make it easier.
The draw is out and imo Djokovic has the toughest draw and Medvedev has the easiest. All of the players I was hoping Djokovic would potentially play in his half of the draw wound up in his half of the draw - esp. Karatsev, Carreno Busta, and Zverev, but also some up and coming players such as McDonald, Brooksby, Hurkacz, Kudla, Ivashka, Bublik and Sinner. Khachanov, Shapovalov, Berrettini and Nishikori are in his half of the draw too.
I am sticking with my prediction: Medvedev will win the USO! The final will be: Medvedev vs. Zverev!!!
I am predicting Medvedev will win the USO. It depends on the draw - if Zverev and Medvedev are in different halves of the draw that will be the final. I do not think Djokovic will be in the final. I would need to know the draw, if Zverev is in Medvedev's draw and Tsitsipas is not in their draw then I think Tsitsipas will be in the final.
Querrey Zverev upset?
I'm confident of one thing, Gill did not watch Zverev beat Djokovic and Khachanov at the Olympics. The pet theories while entertaining ignore the impending Zverev ascendance to the top of the game.
Bruh
Bruh
@@hitgodmb8659 Zedzilla for president.
@@meles3740 Bruh
Gill may have watched it, but he is downplaying it for some reason, and I guess does not understand how much Novak wanted Gold. Zverev's performance in Tokyo was strictly top shelf. Let's put this out there to Gill : total majors in career for Zverev vs. Sinner. Seems like Gill is taking Sinner over the course of their careers. It looks to me like Zverev could be winning a bunch and I think I'd take him.
Gill, I don't think it's fair to Reblev to blame the camera accident for Medvedev's loss. I seem to remember that when you were discussing the Cincinnati semi-finals, you totally wrote Rublev off. So now you can blame the camera, even though Medvedev wasn't even injured.
Shalpo is 0-3 since Wimbledon because he's a child still inside.
Tsitsipas is slowly becoming a disappointment of tennis. He was coached once again and even was texting with his dad on Zverev. Rightfully, Sascha saw that and complained to the umpire. Luckily for Zverev, he pulled himself through and won the match. Tsitsipas really needs to grow up.
The ironic thing is that I think he'd do a lot better if he dropped all of the chatter with his dad and tried to be more centered and calm during the match. Seems to be his top weakness. Needs to develop a better system for focusing and calming himself down, and thinking for himself. ...
@@ZacharyShahan true, his dad is the problem.
Well, to be fully honest Stefanos really helped him doing so. I mean, had it been for Daniil or Novak they would have served out the match and Zverev before even realizing that he would be out of the tournament. I don't know if Tsitsipas really texted with his dad. Although there are quite a few indications there are no evidence.
@@darkuniverse1045 the accusation was very smart on behalf of Zverev. He said he had a phone but nobody saw one. He said texting, everybody attends their mobile during breaks. Beginning of 2 nd set Zverev was 2-0 up, so the coaching wasn’t good😂😂 like you said, if it was Nole or Meddy the 3rd set would be 6-2 and story over.
@@nikostsanosExactly, but I think it is just as equally reasonable to believe that some coaching was done. But even if he didn't get himself coached it is unsportsmanlike to be out of the court for 8 minutes and have your opponent waiting. Stefanos has many times made me feel proud to be Greek but this time he disappointed me in both behavior and result...
I have to disagree with Zverev being third. The power rankings near the top should be which player has the best chance to beat Djokovic. And it’s Zverev all day long having a better chance to beat Djokovic than Medvedev. Djokovic can dictate against Medvedev and wear him down. Zverev has a more powerful forehand than Medvedev, especially when you look at his 11 match winning streak he is on. I don’t see Tsitsipas even making the last 4. Medvedev and Djokovic would way rather get Tsitsipas on their side of the draw instead of Zverev. Murray had a whole new level of confidence when he won the Olympics in 2012 and I’m really think the same is happening with Zverev. And Zverev was 2 points away from winning a major and serving for the match as well. Medvedev technically hasn’t been as close to winning a major.
You make a compelling argument for switching Zverev and Medvedev but there are some good reasons for Medvedev to be ahead of Zverev. Firstly, Zverev has never beaten a top 10 player at a Grand Slam. That shows that he hasn't been able to play his best tennis against the top players at Grand Slams. In contrast, Medvedev has beaten 3 top 10 players at a Grand Slam, including 2 at this year's AO. Medvedev has proven that he can play his best tennis in BO5 against his rivals, but Zverev hasn't. Secondly, Medvedev has a better H2H against Djokovic than Zverev does. Medvedev trails his H2H with Djokovic 3-5 (38% win percentage vs. Djokovic), while Zverev trails his H2H with Djokovic 3-6 (33% win percentage vs. Djokovic). This contradicts your claim that Zverev has a better chance of beating Djokovic. Lastly, Zverev loves playing as the underdog so his 11-match winning streak and the hype around him may actually hurt him more than it will help him. He just hasn't yet shown the ability to play his best tennis under pressure in BO5. Maybe this will be the moment all that changes, but I'll believe it when I see it with Zverev.
@@Daniel-od6ft it’s my opinion, just like Gill has his opinion. And if we’re going by head to head against Djokovic at majors then Tsitsipas has done by far the best by taking both matches to 5 sets, which Zverev or Medvedev have never done. Zverev was closer to taking Djokovic to a 5th set than Medvedev at a major. I’m throwing the top 10 stat out the window and going with my gut on this one and not statistics. There is a look about Zverev that I’ve never seen before. It’s as simple as that for me. It would be great if Gill is right, because I want to see history. I want Djokovic to win all 4 slams this year. I just don’t fear Medvedev the way I do Zverev. Statistics and numbers are important but they don’t tell the whole story. Players that can defend and are good from the baseline are able to get to Medvedevs legs. And more players are trying it now. It’s not a coincidence that Dimitrov completely changed how he played to do this against Medvedev. He just didn’t play well enough in the end. Rublev also played more patiently as well so he could do this. PCB also did a good job of this at the Olympics. So I wouldn’t be surprised if Medvedev gets worn down in these slower hotter conditions and doesn’t make it to the final. I understand what Gill is saying about not wanting to have go just by what’s been happening lately. But for top players there is always a turning point where something clicks, something changes. And if I really didn’t feel this was what happened with Zverev because of the Olympics, I would pick Medvedev as number 2 as well.
Surprised you put Carreno Busta in there. The only guy he can beat from that list is Novak.
How could anyone put a thumbs down on this video.
Easy. The person who made the video did not watch the Olympic medal matches.
Here is my thinking about Djokovic: the fact that he hasn't played at all since his losses in Tokyo will be his downfall and he won't make it to the USO final. Arrogance, the pressure and over-confidence have done him in from time to time and will so again at the USO this year. I am boldly predicting he will not make it to the final and Medvedev will win the USO this year.
I don’t think you follow much tennis otherwise you would not write such a stipud comment. By the sound of it you look like a Roger’s fan. OK…go and google how many Wimbledon titles Novak has and then check how many times he actually win it without playing lead up to Wimbledon. Go ahead. If anything….fact he didn’t play puts him above the field because he comes rested. This is slam brother…first week he will fo through playing with left hand…then he has day between matches. He has four matches before tournament brcomes more serious.
@@darijokesar5703 Certainly Djokovic could win; I just don't think it will happen. You want him to win and I don't, simple as that. If he doesn't win remember that I told you so!
@@freemangriffin4953 Fed fan....I knew it.
@@mail2vw No, I am actually not a Federer fan at all. So you didn't know it!
This uso is just like last year… no GOATdal no GOATerer and no one cares. I hope Rublev or medvedev wins. Can’t believe Sissypas got abused by Abuserev… I’m so disappointed in that dude for choking away that slam dunk SF in Cincinnati.
Who cares
There's only one goat and it ain't Nadal or Federer
@@ayoutuber3116 And he eats grass, proving the point.
As long as GOATkovic is in USO everybody cares.
@@nikostsanos defaultovic gets booed 😂!!!!nobody cares about the goat of crying and cheating And string abused by weak dudes and defaulting and choking…except you chokosquirrels