2019 Taylormade M5 vs 2017 Taylormade M1... Should You Upgrade?!
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- 2019 Taylormade M5 vs 2017 Taylormade M1... Should You Upgrade?! The Taylormade M5 and Taylormade M6 have taken over from the Taylormade M3 and Taylormade M4, which took over from the revolutionary Taylormade M1 and Taylormade M2... but if you have the M1... is it worth upgrading to the pretty expensive M5? How much better is the M5 than the M1? Does it hit longer drives? Maybe it will hit more fairways with its speed injected twist face? Rory Mcilroy, Tiger Woods and Dustin Johnson all use the Taylormade M5... but that doesn’t really mean a lot. Should you spend more money on a new driver and expensive golf clubs? Or should you find a second hand M1 and save your money? Let’s find out... and let’s do it now!
I think what tests like this show is: If you already have a driver which is within a few years old, you're not missing out on anything.
I agree, James. I went from a R9 Supertri to a M1 and noticed a gain in distance. Sadly, my M1 had a bad paint job and I got a M3 as a replacement. I didn't notice a difference between the M1 and M3. Both are terrific clubs.
and if you have confidence in the one you are hitting more than likely you will hit it longer. I have seen 3 yards anyplace worth a 500.00 club
@@ra1279 I just got my M5 today. Had the R9 Supertri for the longest time and loved it but I thought it was finally time for a change.
@@SM-po9wf Have you gained a few yards?
@@ra1279 Just got it yesterday and didn't get a chance to play or hit balls. I'm going to the range later today and see if there is a difference and I'll play 9 tomorrow. From just swinging it at my house I'm sure there will be a difference. If you put the R9 Supertri next to the M5 there is a BIG difference in shape and size.
Thank you James !! You just saved me a lot of money. I love my M1 but with all the hype on drivers now I almost fell for it. Your honest and fun reviews keep me watching
More than welcome mate
WOOOHOOOO!! I have a 2017 M1 440cc and while I had no intention of changing, I definitely wont change now - thumbs up!!
I'm still using the m2 2017 and I couldn't be happier. If I had to upgrade I would pick the flash
Hi James! I have actually run a similar test myself as I currently game the 2017 M1 440 and found the same results when I tested the M5. I love my M1 and unless something comes out that dramatically out performs what I have in the bag, I see no reason to spend that big money. Although I must say, my previous driver was an SLDR that performed brilliantly and I purchased the M1 based on the aesthetics and muted sound. Keep up the great content James!
Golf is a game of days, one day you got it and the next 4 you don't.
Enjoying the content over across the big pond in the U.S.. Keep it up. I have yet to find more ball speed in the last 5 years of drivers. I know that some days I can get 140 ball speed out of a driver and go back the next day and get 138. You’ll never see 3 yards on a course. There’s so many other uncontrollable things on the course that it won’t matter. Keep the M1 and use the money on lessons. That’s how to get better at golf.
That car reference was amazing. Made my day thanks James 👌🏼👌🏼
More than welcome mate
I have the m1 2017. It is by far the straightest driver I have ever used. I have tested the m3 and couldn’t get on with it at all. I had to shorten the shaft and put both weights to the back. This changed everything. I feel I lost a little distance by doing this but gained so much accuracy. Since doing this I have had 3 of my mates doing the exact same. My bad shots used to be so far right. Now they just fade a little. I agree they peaked with the m1. No need for all this technology. If the wife wouldn’t divorce me the m1 would sleep at the side of me after a good round. 👍🏼👍🏼
Cracking head to head and a great surprise,the trouble with all us golfers we all love new equipment, what I done last year was go and have a driver lesson along side a new shaft fit which is only 42 inches long and now I’m hitting further and finding more fairways....happy days
Still loving your videos and your humour along with your superb presenting skills 👏👏
Currently playing the 2016 M1 and have no plans to switch anytime soon. Moneys better spent on lessons
2130Redskins agreed!
Tried m6 against my 2016 m2 and there's nothing in it. Not worth spending 350 quid.
I'm using the m1 2017 now just upgraded from the r1 and loving it
I’m still using an R11tp! Got a driver fitting coming up, so maybe not much longer!
good luck, hope your fitting experience is a good one, gain yourself 8+ yards please so you can be excited af
Still use the M1 440 '17. Its lack of forgiveness is worth the potential to unlock more distance 👌
I used to have the 430 m1. I then moved to the 440 version used in this vid. So far it’s brilliant. I doubt I’ll be changing soon
There are a few things I liked about the video. 1, You kept the shaft and changed out the head, This is a big cost factor, If I`ve been through a fitting and I`m performing extremely well with my shafts changing out the head will save big $$$$. 2, You proved to me that all manufacturers are doing is just giving there drivers and woods pretty paint jobs. 13.5 degrees of your is the same 13.5 degrees today.
Interesting test James! Not regetting buying an almost new 2017 M1 for £140 this autumn
I'm not a big fan of these so-called "apples to apples" comparisons. I would much rather see a properly fit M1 vs a properly fit M5. One thing I noticed was that clubhead speed was about 1.5 MPH less with M5, may have to do with the physical weight of the 2 heads being different. I just believe that testing these two clubs and not taking advantage of all the customization features is doing them a dis-service. (It also helps that smash factor with M1 was near 1.50, because part of the idea behind the new face is to make sure that ALL the clubs TM releases are more consistently in that range)
I was fitted for the M2 and really liked it. We tested the M6 in the studio when it came out and I really appreciated to feel off the face and loved the style however didn’t get too much further than the M2. HOWEVER I’ve been using the M6 on the course for the last few weeks and my confidence has grown dramatically with the club and I’m really striking the ball well, so well in fact I’m easily hitting 30yds further with it. The twist face has given a significant improvement in dispersion and miss hit results.
I would expect similar results for other manufacturer comparisons, on the course.
The r15 driver is still a great driver.
I’m still using the 2016 M1. No need for upgrade, absolute classic and the ball still shoots off the face.
Brilliant video James! I’m in the same boat as you, I have an M1 and I really like it, I really didn’t think there could be that much improvement to the M5. Using your car model analogy, the car companies do the same thing - every 10 years or so they introduce a new model which is really great, then they update it (mostly aesthetics) every few years...but basically it’s the same thing...
Thanks. Not quite sure if technogies could truly turn a cold, hard flat metal face into a twisted one unless it's made of rubber.
Honestly in using the 2016 M1 and will not change unless necessary
Another great video James. I bought an M1 2016 about 18 months ago and am still loving it and I totally agree with you that it looks better than the new M5. I tested the M3 when it came out and it made no difference whatsoever to my distance or dispersion. I haven’t tried the M5 yet but to be honest I couldn’t justify paying £450 for 1 club anyway!!
I bought a new 2017 M1 on ebay last September when I started playing golf again. Brand name, old reviews, and a 55% discount off original MSRP did it for me. I'm a senior and my driver club head speed only averages 86-87mph so as long as I can put it out there 200+ yards and hit 60%+ fairways I see no reason to change.
James, I have an M1 and was wondering about the difference between the M1 and M5 because of the twist face and the marketing that the new model would go further. However, you are the only one that has done a comparison on the two, so thank you! I am not going to spend all the extra money for what appears to be very little difference. I suspected that with the adjustability of the M1 the difference between it and the later models should not be that great. Thank you, this helped me very much.
Coby
Probably had one of those really hot M1's where the club face is on the limit of being legal compared to the m5 where they check everything.
Still play 2016 M1 and thinking of go for M5 any soon but thanks to you James, saved me ALOT of $$$! 😘
I purchased an M3 last winter and that put my on track to consider upgrading my driver in 2023.
I would love to be in a position to upgrade more often, but only because that means I have money to burn. Realistically, buying a new driver more than every five years is just not cost effective for me.
Using the M1 with a shorter shaft and a back up M4 again with a shortened shaft. Lovely !
James I did this test 2 weeks ago. I was playing a 2017 M1 with a Hzrdus Yellow. Made the switch to M5 with a tour AD GP. I gained 12 yards through greater optimization.
I can help you explain what was happening between M1 and M5. I’m assuming you took the Hzrdus Smoke out of the M5 and put it in the M1.
That’s a problem because the stock length of the M1 is 45.5; the M5 is 45.75. That means the M1 head is heavier than the M5. So when you put the .5” longer shaft in the M1 the swing weight goes up 3 points!
So you are most likely timing the mass better when built at a heavier weight. That’s what happened to me during my fitting. Had to add a bit of weight to M5 to optimize it.
But in the end my average strikes with M5 were as fast, as my best with M1. And my best shots with M5 went further and faster.
ive got an M1 with 6.0 Hzrdus yellow, wasnt really fitted for me, so this is the conundrum, as i reckon a good fitting with a 65x something shaft and a fitting in an M5 would give me some better consistency as a 3 hcper??!!
Mathew Tuomey yes exactly. You’ll get fit into the proper weight and flex along with head settings
yes, BUT its £500, that is a lot of money for something!! Whats the cheaper option? Get fitted and buy that shaft to in M1?!
Last year I changed from a TM Rocket Ball white driver to the TM M3. I gained a shocking 25 yards not kidding and much more accurate. The funny thing is during fitting with a launch monitor at the store my stats were exactly the same when compared to my old driver, on course way different. I thought I wasting my money, but in fact it was a great decision.
Good review James. I would lie to see a ball review with the new Titleist prov1 against the Mizuno RB Tour.
The Mizuno is new to Canada this year and is $10.00 cheaper/dozen.
Love these head to head , amazes me how close some of these results are sometimes even after technology moving on👍
Thanks James. Great video as usual. Love your self depreciating humour
Great review, finally someone testing with the same shaft!
Been waiting for a comparison like this. Would love to see you go even older like R11s or something. That would be huge technology gap. Keep up great work
Would love to see this for all the big OEMs. Epic SZ vs Epic Flash SZ, Ping G LST vs Ping G410.
Why did you take out the TS3 seems like you were in love with that when it dropped. From your recent videos you dropped the TS3 and the ping putter to the Taylormade driver and putter and it looked like you were playing better before the change.
"No one gets faster" should be the tag line for TM this year. Haven't seen one review where M5 or M6 is faster.
I am currently gaming a M1 440 after comparing it to M1 460, Rogue and G400 Max. My strange perception and results is that smaller heads like the 440 has much more solid feel and is easy to square. I had doughts not getting the proper forgiveness but never did I hit has many fairways. My two cents: don’t buy based on what you hear, buy based on what you’ve experience.
Great video I've been waiting to see these 2 go head to head. I have the m1 and was contemplating on getting the M5 but after seeing this video I might stick with my m1
I would suggest getting fit and trying it out, the biggest thing may be how "hot" the face on your M1 is. If you pick it up off the rack you run the risk of an inferior product simply because they couldn't build to the proper COR
I caved in the face on my 2017 M1 440 and taylormade was great and sent a M3 440 as a replacement
My youngest Son (Bandit Junior) picked up an M1 last year out of a Pro Shop Bargain Bucket for peanuts, he hits it Miles!!!!!!!!!
Your tee height looks higher than optimal.
That may be the difference between the clubs. Try the M5 with a tee height that puts the top of the club face at the equator of the ball or slightly lower.
That would seem to correct for high face strikes on the M5.
Still using my 2016 M2 with a Tour AD IZ 6X and I have yet to find anything that outperforms it enough to warrant an upgrade. If anything, its the 3Wood area that I see a big difference between my 2016 M1 3W head and recent releases.
Quality video James, just proves that advancements in technology can’t change the person holding it.
Maybe I will buy it in 2021. Need an upgrade from the driver of my grandfather and I‘m searching for a Budget driver. So i‘m thinking about it.
Bought a 2017 m1 from American Golf on boxing day. Ex demo sale. £68. Bargain of the century
How about a rematch... M1 vs SIM? (I am still playing an M1) :)
You should make a video comparing old and new golf shafts from the same company. I haven’t seen this done on RUclips yet.
I still have my m1 and works very well still
Great video as usual.
I tried the M1 and never got on with it. The white on top bothered me and it was too unforgiving for me.
It probably stems from the fact that i was gaming a 917D2 at the time, which is much higher spinning.
I liked the M3 a lot better and haven’t had a chance to try the M5 yet.
TaylorMade did peak with the 2017 M1 driver. In my opinion they took a few steps backwards with the M3, and again with the M5. I have not hit the M5, but I was able to test the M3 against the 2017 M1 a while back when I was considering an upgrade. I found no improvement with the M3. In fact, I found the M1 more consistent and easier to hit. Unlike you, I found the sound of the M3 a bit tinny outdoors. Your experience with the M5 pretty much mirrors my experience with the M3 and helped me to conclude that there is no reason to spend the money on a new M3 or M5 driver that seem to offer minimal or no advancement. It would be one thing if my driver was 10 years old and I was in the market for newer technology, but the new bells and whistles offered by the M3/M5 lines do not overshadow what appears to be the best driver TaylorMade has ever produced. I think the M1 will be in my bag for some time to come.
I am looking to upgrade my 5w and imagine the tests on the 2017 5 woods and 2019 5 woods would be the same! I love picking up older clubs at a great price!! No one over 5 handicap is going to notice any difference.
TM is the King of Marketing that the new is better than the old despite evidence to the contrary
I have an M5 as well which I chose over my previous Srixon z785 for this exact reason - dispersion. There’s no doubt that for me the Srixon went further on the course and on the monitor but for me the M5 was just much more consistent. I often found that the extra distance and greater dispersion actually got me in far more trouble then it was worth. I’d like to see you do a video on the Srixon Z785 v the M5
I bought the M1 brand new last year for $150. Preferred the look over the M3. Didn't think the M5 looked any better IMHO. Cut the shaft to 44.5" and moved the front weight to the back. It's very long (for me) and super forgiving for me. Oh and did I mentioned that it's still such a looker? 😉
I have my 2016 M1 and I just picked up a M5... M5 is getting sold and still sticking with the 2016 M1
M1 I believe is still the better club, great distance and forgiveness. I bounce back and forth between this and my Epic. Now I did get sent the new ones but still doesn’t perform the same.
Great info mate once again
Can you possibly get your hands on an M5/6 without the “speed injection” and compare it with a speed injected one?
I am still hitting the 2017 M1 driver and 3 wood and I still love them. I do have my trackman info from hole 8 of Bay Hill from the API pro-am. Not sure how to share that with you.
Good review. I was considering changing my M1 but because like you I think the new one looks crap I am going to look at Mizuno and Cobra instead of the M5/6.
Still pounding my R1!
Very good video Every driver is so close anymore. I think it’s just down to the price you want to pay fir one
I would like to see you shift the weights and see if it lowers launch and if it changes spin please
Jamas put the titleist ts3 back in your bag. Taylormade will have a m7 out next week
Hi james. You have test many drivers this years. Which on do you think the best one is overall
James,so you say "you are not swinging all that well when you filmed this piece...ok i accept this but you swung each club the same..now how much cost difference is the m1 to the new m5...?? Bloody plenty of cash....are taylormade taking the micheal ??
I'm gaming the G25 as I re-learn the game, but I am interested in the TM drivers/woods. To be fair, I'll probably buy new next year, so I can say I have something from that decade :)
One-Eye Golfer get a G400. Better than either of these....way more forgiving
Great test pal. In taylormades case all their new tech is pointless and the m5 is fugly. I've got a 2016 m1 440 which was replaced by an xr speed, lot more feel and forgiving with no distance loss. Just got fitted for an cobra f9, all I can say is I've never hit a driver that feels so good, forgiving and long. All cobras hype is justified which is nice for a change
106mph club head speed with the M1 for 157.8mph ball speed vs 104mph for the m5 for 156.6mph
I'd argue the ~2mph difference in club head speed for ~1mph slower ball speed would probably mean the m5 has a higher ball speed if club head speeds were equal.
Just curious to know is there a break in period for drivers? In my softball days all new bats had some break in to open them up. Not sure if that applies to drivers but might explain the lower ball speed for the M5?
Now do the same test on the irons. And yes I play M1 irons
Your head weights look to be placed different. M1 in mid, m5 all the way back
More of these please.
I've always thought that that was thee best driver they've made! I've never owned it but my golfing mates own them and won't part with them any time soon!
Great video
I’ve just bought an M3 (440)
Didn’t like the look of the m1
Can’t afford an M5
Thanks James!!!
great video James the price of new golf clubs is borderline unaffordable now days ill be sticking to my Taylormade m4 its just as good as any other club out there in my opinion.The real question is have golf companies gone too far with there pricing ? and is golf slowly becoming a rich mans sport ?
mike jazz interesting thinking. I have a friend who works closely with TM. He said the prices are driven by the decline in sales. People are realizing that a new driver isn’t performing better than the previous year or years models. Now they are charging twice as much because they will sell twice as less.
I had M1 & M2, now gaming TS3. Love both M1 & M2, was looking at M3 but not convinced with the twist face. Hit slightly farther with the new TS3. Maybe I should go buy a discount priced M1 as a spare driver......🤔🤔🤔
Ryan Laii why stop there ....just get the Ping G, the Mizuno, the Cobra King and a dozen of each premium balk on the markeT,
Would like to know if the M1 head is heavier as it feels heavier than my M4. Is using the same shaft the right fit if heads are different weight?
I've got the M2 2017 driver and I tried the M6 and I still think the M2 2017 is better for me crown seems to have a nice shine on it as performance £400 for a m6 driver doesn't weigh up for me when you still get near enough the same performance has the M2 2017 I feel that they made the M2 too good seems to me there just played about with a slight of the design and the cosmetic work for me you can get an M2 for a fraction of the price for almost the same performance as the m6
My experience exactly. And I don't make good contact with the M5. I swing the M5 TERRIBLY. Something about the balance of the head.
I use the 17 m1 and hit it really good
Have you did a head to head with the m3 and m5
James do the weights make a difference at all please I’m really confused
IMO if you have a driver from the past 2 years the only new driver worth upgrading to is the Cobra. that's it
Second hand m1 is £100 second hand m5 £330
I wish I could hit my M1 as well as you did
I’m still playing the 2016 M2 and am wondering if there is anything better? What do you think?keep it or go new
Thomas Cairns use the money on golf lessons
Hahaha I'm still playing the SLDR!
Me too ha. Not very forgiving though but when struck well can hit a long ways
Gaming the 2017 and its gonna take something amazing to pull me off of it. Great deal. Saving people 500 dollars at a time. lol
I hate how taylormade launch product every year.. The cycle should be like titleist at least every two years
Is that a crack in the heel of the bottom of the m5?
I upgraded from an R15 to a M3. Still trying to get used to the sound of the M3. Sometimes I feel like I need earplugs! Has anybody else noticed this?
great video this is exactly the video i wanted to see, i went from the 17 M1 to the M5 ( i won the m5) but was going to be buying it anyways. really surprised you like the look of the M1 more, the M5 at address is so good, especially with the matte crown. when i went and did a fitting the m5 was wayyyyy better for me in every way, tight dispersion and a lot more distance (over a 20 yard gain) but the better fit shaft was likely a big reason. also noticed you left the weights in standard postition, move them around for better spin and launch ? great review as always !
NO....I'm still using the XR-16.