Yeah this map is something, but it did bring a memory back for me. I remember a player named "The Stunner" on this map exploiting the Thruster stun; to say that they pissed off the enemy team into hardcountering them would be an understatement.
I think honestly that's the least tryhardy playstyle, compared to mach 3 deadringer spy over there, or invincible demoknight, or ubered phlog pyromedic pair In a way, the Stunner is simply just a hard counter to these unfun strats without being too imposing of a killer to the rest of the enemy team
@@this...isabucket.6665remember: the thermal thruster has tech which lets the jump before the launch go higher press space and immediately left/right click or just use a chargejump bind, but it's not max height to use chargejump
@@this...isabucket.6665 What's funny was those players you described were the most chill in that lobby, it was the mostly the greifers who were most upset about The Stunner. The Stunner himself was bragging a lot, but that lad was nigh-unkillable, so they were able to back their ego, topscore or not.
I remember constantly backstabbing a whole team with like 3 engineers for like an hour straight. I wonder if you were one of them, or if this was more common than I thought..
@@flying_luigi9088 I swear I remember something like that. But that’s probably just my imagination. If the spy was wearing a pumpkin mask or a fedora + mustache hat, it was probably me.
The most broken updates are the stun related ones. Rocket Specialist and Mad Milk/Jarate slow on hit slow you down to ridiculous levels, making movement impossible for any class. They went so far as to disable shield charges for Demoknight when stunned by those methods.
Scorch shot is the best for this. Spam fire at range, hit everyone, deal unending afterburn, and also since it's a secondary its upgrades are cheaper than primary.
This map is such a cool idea with horrendous execution - The upgrades are unbalanced as hell and makes it really easy to do BS Strategies, which I get is part of the point but its a little ridiculous. - The spawns are so easy to spawn camp since there are only 2 exits right next to the final point, and the fact the upgrade station is RIGHT NEXT to the main door is even worse since either you can get killed while getting upgrades, or worse, open the door and make it easier to spawn camp. The spawns need to have more exits and be better designed. - The map is way to choke point heavy and linear for a map with this many dumbass strats. I needed to be more open and have more routes. - This should have been King of the Hill with an extended Timer instead of 3CP. It would keep the action more towards the center and away from the spawns, so even if spawn camping happens it wouldn't be nearly as problematic as it is now. Further more, because of how much time they do give compared to how fast matches can end theoretically, spawn camping becomes even worse because players will refuse to cap and just focus on farming kills to get more money, and the enemy team can do nothing. - This is more personal preference, but for a map called freaky fair it's a really boring map that doesn't play into it's theme very well. So many other circus themed maps such as Laughter did the fair thing way better. I really want to see this concept done again, because it is really cool for an alternative game mode, but this was very much a poor first draft that needed more time in the oven.
They definitely need to make more mvm upgrade maps for next halloween. Maybe make a player destruction map that uses the collected items as money instead of automatically getting money for kills. Then make it a really high amount to win.
@@maskofthedragon youre on the channel of a youtuber who made a bunch of videos about tf2 x10 and rtd i think a lot of people would play it if it was balanced like 2% more than its current state
I'm fairly certain the actual maker had to spend a lot of time bug fixing. The idea in general is a balancing nightmare. I do remember the discussions with them in Potato discord. I don't envy them. I hate handling upgrade files.
Just the normal resistances the mode lets you buy were enough to make me go enforcer gunspy and actually out-DM scouts despite missing 80% of my shots and it *worked*, having to fight vaccinator in freaky fair would make me try to replace every gun on every other class with the enforcer because it would be better than the stickybomb launcher in the vaccinator meta
A strat I did on this map after I was done with contracts was go phlog Pyro, put a lot of points towards towards damage and a bit for scotch shot afterburn to get more meter and invest in Uber canteens. Then I'd taunt and pop a canteen and was invincible as I walked towards their spawn, meter refilled in a no time at all due to damage increased and repeat :)
Uber canteens being like 15 seconds are also insanely unbalanced. Dont know the exact duration but it's basically an auto loss for anyone because even if they cant kill you, they could walk all the way back to their spawn from basically anywhere
Some other annoying loadouts I've found: Gunslinger + frontier justice + disposable sentry - You can shut down entire areas with little to no downside. Like even if someone destroys one of them there's several others to finish them off, and you can easily replace the one that got destroyed. Bleed lucksman - Guys laugh it's bleed give me karma Uber potion phlog - self explanitory. Build phlog with the most annoying strategies and then MELT the enemy team while invincible. Pumpkin buster spawncamping - idk how bad this is in vanilla freaky fair, but in 100 player it's commonplace to die immediately after respawn because some cloak & dagger spy snuck into spawn
I pissed off a half a server because I used the Gaspasser upgrade with pholg. I was testing if MVM metas and dumb gimmicks would be viable on this map. I deleted an entire control point. My favorite was my Brass beast loadout with movement speed buffs.
@@thegreatdraco3923 Ya know I don't remember. I don't usually do community servers, so unless it was in when they had people testing it (if they did, I honestly can't remember) or it was there briefly then updated out. But in all likely hood, best to go with Occam's Razor and assume it was a community.
My favorite way to play on the map was just to max out run speed/resistances/melee swing speed/health on kill and run around as the immortal Fish Scout It was so much fun to facetank a Heavy minigun and Fish Kill them
I’m still super surprised that they added a stun upgrade to the thermal thruster. Combine that with the charge time buff, and you get really silly gameplay
I'm surprised this wasn't on your main channel, but I understand that you want to keep live commentary separate, and it's only because this is a recent change that I'm not used to it yet. If it lets you show off more shenanigans with friends, I'm all for it.
So, really fun fact. The game mode seems to be balanced around money and upgrades resetting after every round. Unfortunately for everyone on the map, there is a ridiculously easy way to savestate your resistances to get them back at the start of each round(and cross games) So every round, I simply opened with full resistance, full movement brassbeast heavy and dominated the server until they caught up(except they didn’t because brassbeast heavy was fucking meta in my experience) For those curious, I think the method was to buy the resistances, swap a weapon, refund the upgrades, then swap your weapon back. This is probably not quite right, but it’s been a while and I never wrote it down, but holy hell was it broken!
Legit, I am unironically happy but at the same time pissed because I didn't realize I got balanced into the end of your flames. If you're curious my friend Kasizil and I joined here unknowingly of what will be happening. 23:48
This map was some of my most fun in TF2 I literally cleared the contract in a single round as scout with fully buffed scattergun and full speed so I would rush in and fire like 18 rounds and dip out to reload. Didn't even remember to use the slowing milk I loved running around at mach 1 so much. It also ruined my session cause I felt infinitely slower on other maps. The scout muscle memory also made securing kills hard cause I'd fire off 6 rounds then instinctually back up before realizing oh I've got 12 more rounds to dump
Fun Fact: The Medic Shield does indeed do damage. 150/s in fact, meaning a Medic can just press W into the enemy and win as long as he doesn't get too close. Though Pyro counters this since flames go through shields
Did they fix the infinite health Sentry glitch yet? You know, the one where if you keep buying and un-buying the Building Health upgrade, it keeps healing the Sentry to full health, so it can't be destroyed without instantly killing it?
I'm just imagining a team of MVM high tours that know the top upgrade/weapon combos doing the spawn-camping and a couple of Delfy Engineers holding down last with infinite health sentries so they can never get back capped. A bit of coordination would make this map literally impossible for the enemy team to win.
Funnily enough, Spy is probably the most overpowered class for this accursed map. Just maxing out speed + jump height makes you actual hell to deal with since you’ll constantly be behind or above everyone. Combine that with resistances while using a kunai makes you almost unkillable while you’re zooming around.
No idea if its a well known glitch or not but playing for my contract I found an infinite money glitch by switching around between classes on accident. All your upgrades would stay and your money would be refunded
I’m not sure if it was even remotely good but all I did was buy 4 disposable sentries and max resists/building hp and run around dropping them (and a mini) where people were fighting
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Yeah this map is something, but it did bring a memory back for me.
I remember a player named "The Stunner" on this map exploiting the Thruster stun; to say that they pissed off the enemy team into hardcountering them would be an understatement.
I think honestly that's the least tryhardy playstyle, compared to mach 3 deadringer spy over there, or invincible demoknight, or ubered phlog pyromedic pair
In a way, the Stunner is simply just a hard counter to these unfun strats without being too imposing of a killer to the rest of the enemy team
We shall remember the stunner for stunning the tryhards🫡
@@this...isabucket.6665remember:
the thermal thruster has tech which lets the jump before the launch go higher
press space and immediately left/right click
or just use a chargejump bind, but it's not max height to use chargejump
@@this...isabucket.6665 What's funny was those players you described were the most chill in that lobby, it was the mostly the greifers who were most upset about The Stunner.
The Stunner himself was bragging a lot, but that lad was nigh-unkillable, so they were able to back their ego, topscore or not.
Playing this in 100 player mode drives me god damn insane
And then playing the next normal map after that must be what withdrawal feels like.
TF2 with Overwatch balancing
PERMASTUN IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!!!
Me when I'm stupid ☝️
Old Sandman was balanced
@@bruschetta7711real
@@mthemstandsformilk1965You're pointing at your name...? I appreciate the honesty
Nothing was more miserable then trying to play engineer when there was a light speed spy main on the enemy team
But then you could infinity hp your sentry xd
@@justchill4886The red-tape recorder cares not for hp..
I remember constantly backstabbing a whole team with like 3 engineers for like an hour straight. I wonder if you were one of them, or if this was more common than I thought..
@@yeedog6145 I was the only engineer, and the spy started to feel bad for the bullying I was getting
@@flying_luigi9088 I swear I remember something like that. But that’s probably just my imagination. If the spy was wearing a pumpkin mask or a fedora + mustache hat, it was probably me.
hey man thanks for uploading this AFTER halloween
they KNEW what they were doing
Yeah it was kind of a dick move
at least they showed SOME mercy
He did that on purpose, cuz they knew as soon as the general public got wind of it the jig would be up
The most broken updates are the stun related ones. Rocket Specialist and Mad Milk/Jarate slow on hit slow you down to ridiculous levels, making movement impossible for any class. They went so far as to disable shield charges for Demoknight when stunned by those methods.
The stun you get with the thermal truster upgrade is also ridiculous
@@conducter6381combine that with jump+mouse1/mouse2 and it is great for mobility too
charges stop automatically when you go below a certain speed. this isn't a conscious balance decision
I liked maxing out Burn duration on Pyro for max psychological damage
Nah you need sniper with the bow to give people B L E E D
@@tvz_luigi3233 you cant talk about bleed without talking about the enforcer, thats illegal
syringe gun, i am really good with it and mms lets you teamsupport
hol up
combine mms with this uberbug
Scorch shot is the best for this. Spam fire at range, hit everyone, deal unending afterburn, and also since it's a secondary its upgrades are cheaper than primary.
Medic, who let you play TF2?
I love when Heavy says his iconic line "Yes, heavy is awesomesauce"
This map is such a cool idea with horrendous execution
- The upgrades are unbalanced as hell and makes it really easy to do BS Strategies, which I get is part of the point but its a little ridiculous.
- The spawns are so easy to spawn camp since there are only 2 exits right next to the final point, and the fact the upgrade station is RIGHT NEXT to the main door is even worse since either you can get killed while getting upgrades, or worse, open the door and make it easier to spawn camp. The spawns need to have more exits and be better designed.
- The map is way to choke point heavy and linear for a map with this many dumbass strats. I needed to be more open and have more routes.
- This should have been King of the Hill with an extended Timer instead of 3CP. It would keep the action more towards the center and away from the spawns, so even if spawn camping happens it wouldn't be nearly as problematic as it is now. Further more, because of how much time they do give compared to how fast matches can end theoretically, spawn camping becomes even worse because players will refuse to cap and just focus on farming kills to get more money, and the enemy team can do nothing.
- This is more personal preference, but for a map called freaky fair it's a really boring map that doesn't play into it's theme very well. So many other circus themed maps such as Laughter did the fair thing way better.
I really want to see this concept done again, because it is really cool for an alternative game mode, but this was very much a poor first draft that needed more time in the oven.
That’s essentially of this guy’s maps
They definitely need to make more mvm upgrade maps for next halloween. Maybe make a player destruction map that uses the collected items as money instead of automatically getting money for kills. Then make it a really high amount to win.
I'm so sad this isn't available year round dude
Good.
No one would play that trash without the novelty of being around only a few weeks
@@maskofthedragon youre on the channel of a youtuber who made a bunch of videos about tf2 x10 and rtd i think a lot of people would play it if it was balanced like 2% more than its current state
just add spawn prot sentries
I'm fairly certain the actual maker had to spend a lot of time bug fixing. The idea in general is a balancing nightmare. I do remember the discussions with them in Potato discord. I don't envy them. I hate handling upgrade files.
Just the normal resistances the mode lets you buy were enough to make me go enforcer gunspy and actually out-DM scouts despite missing 80% of my shots and it *worked*, having to fight vaccinator in freaky fair would make me try to replace every gun on every other class with the enforcer because it would be better than the stickybomb launcher in the vaccinator meta
That, or maybe demoknight
A strat I did on this map after I was done with contracts was go phlog Pyro, put a lot of points towards towards damage and a bit for scotch shot afterburn to get more meter and invest in Uber canteens. Then I'd taunt and pop a canteen and was invincible as I walked towards their spawn, meter refilled in a no time at all due to damage increased and repeat :)
Uber canteens being like 15 seconds are also insanely unbalanced. Dont know the exact duration but it's basically an auto loss for anyone because even if they cant kill you, they could walk all the way back to their spawn from basically anywhere
didn't do this on the 100 player server smh my head
That means we should do it and watch the server crash in a minute
Most enjoyable experience vs the vaccinator
It immunizes against fun
6:01 It is tragic(But also funny) to see that video has permanently affected the lingo of TF2 community lol.
Weapon reskins cause me intense pain for 8 seconds
@@talosine2963Weapon reskins have been a strange case to me for 8 seconds
Unbalanced? Yes. Chaotic? Yes. Fun? Yes.
Basically, TF2 turned into a gamemode
just add tfc spawn prot sentries
Finally, TF2 has a gamemode
The best part is that nobody on the enemy team thought to buy resistances.
13:44
"That's actually the most broken upgrade in the game"
Gas passer: ((👀)) 🤫
This map is broken in more ways than one. Every time I played on it, the upgrade station didn't work for anyone so it just became a normal match
Can't wait for the inevitable duels between gods as both teams realize how this works
I found out that the most op upgrade was the stun upgrade on thermal truster. With the length and consistency you can get stuns, kills are guaranteed.
Some other annoying loadouts I've found:
Gunslinger + frontier justice + disposable sentry - You can shut down entire areas with little to no downside. Like even if someone destroys one of them there's several others to finish them off, and you can easily replace the one that got destroyed.
Bleed lucksman - Guys laugh it's bleed give me karma
Uber potion phlog - self explanitory. Build phlog with the most annoying strategies and then MELT the enemy team while invincible.
Pumpkin buster spawncamping - idk how bad this is in vanilla freaky fair, but in 100 player it's commonplace to die immediately after respawn because some cloak & dagger spy snuck into spawn
You know what would've made this map even more broken? If all weapons gave.. you guessed it.. bleed for 8 seconds.
who would've thought porting the upgrades from a horde mode to 6v6s would make it easy to spam chokes
I pissed off a half a server because I used the Gaspasser upgrade with pholg. I was testing if MVM metas and dumb gimmicks would be viable on this map. I deleted an entire control point. My favorite was my Brass beast loadout with movement speed buffs.
Brass Beast with movement speed buffs sounds hilarious
You mean 'Explode in ignite"? That's not possible, it wasn't added into the gamemode.
@@thegreatdraco3923 it was on the server I was on.
@@tuxedeoboi9155 Was it an official or an community server?
@@thegreatdraco3923 Ya know I don't remember. I don't usually do community servers, so unless it was in when they had people testing it (if they did, I honestly can't remember) or it was there briefly then updated out. But in all likely hood, best to go with Occam's Razor and assume it was a community.
I like freaky fair because the strange filter makes my weapons freaky
15:26 risk of rain mentioned lets go.
In all the games I've played freaky fair, there wasn't a single one where someone didn't do a infinite credit exploit. Really sucked.
My favorite way to play on the map was just to max out run speed/resistances/melee swing speed/health on kill and run around as the immortal Fish Scout
It was so much fun to facetank a Heavy minigun and Fish Kill them
Enforcer would delete you
I stalemated every match I played as engi... the building health upgrade health reset is very strong, and I didn't even need to be at my gun
I miss this mode so much already. Horrid balancing but it was fun as hell
I’m still super surprised that they added a stun upgrade to the thermal thruster. Combine that with the charge time buff, and you get really silly gameplay
Deadlock map looking good
I'm surprised this wasn't on your main channel, but I understand that you want to keep live commentary separate, and it's only because this is a recent change that I'm not used to it yet. If it lets you show off more shenanigans with friends, I'm all for it.
So, really fun fact. The game mode seems to be balanced around money and upgrades resetting after every round. Unfortunately for everyone on the map, there is a ridiculously easy way to savestate your resistances to get them back at the start of each round(and cross games)
So every round, I simply opened with full resistance, full movement brassbeast heavy and dominated the server until they caught up(except they didn’t because brassbeast heavy was fucking meta in my experience)
For those curious, I think the method was to buy the resistances, swap a weapon, refund the upgrades, then swap your weapon back. This is probably not quite right, but it’s been a while and I never wrote it down, but holy hell was it broken!
I did a scout spy, where it was max speed and jump height as spy, with the YER and I was top scoring. I SPAWN CAMPED
20:17 Well, you are sweating your butt off.
well I think its pretty fun for a casual map, it only gets annoying when you get people abusing the shit out of it which they usually dont
Legit, I am unironically happy but at the same time pissed because I didn't realize I got balanced into the end of your flames. If you're curious my friend Kasizil and I joined here unknowingly of what will be happening. 23:48
21:58 imo, i would hex that guy with the classic "atupid te" spell
Thats just me tho
This map was some of my most fun in TF2 I literally cleared the contract in a single round as scout with fully buffed scattergun and full speed so I would rush in and fire like 18 rounds and dip out to reload. Didn't even remember to use the slowing milk I loved running around at mach 1 so much. It also ruined my session cause I felt infinitely slower on other maps. The scout muscle memory also made securing kills hard cause I'd fire off 6 rounds then instinctually back up before realizing oh I've got 12 more rounds to dump
Fun Fact: The Medic Shield does indeed do damage. 150/s in fact, meaning a Medic can just press W into the enemy and win as long as he doesn't get too close. Though Pyro counters this since flames go through shields
Did they fix the infinite health Sentry glitch yet?
You know, the one where if you keep buying and un-buying the Building Health upgrade, it keeps healing the Sentry to full health, so it can't be destroyed without instantly killing it?
Freaky fair. The map so buggy it was gift that kept on giving
Just wait for next year when everyone has watched shounic's video about mvm upgrades in tf2 and the map becomes wrangled sentry hell.
I love this gameplay idea….and how much craziness it can get
"The playtesting on this" bold of you to assume they do that
The enforcer would finally have a use in pircing the resistances lmao
i suddenly just thought about
e-beggars bazooka
9:45 bobateehee predicted the future fr
I'm just imagining a team of MVM high tours that know the top upgrade/weapon combos doing the spawn-camping and a couple of Delfy Engineers holding down last with infinite health sentries so they can never get back capped. A bit of coordination would make this map literally impossible for the enemy team to win.
THAT WAS A MAP?!
_fuck_
I didn't even know pyro jetpack can stun people because every pyro running it would just get sniped by 3 direct hit soldiers
the enforcer with max dmg upgrades and crit cantines is absolutely insane
I did not expect the chucklenuts leafy arc
Great blue is literally the giant soldier with medics in mvm
if you think what they did was evil, the enemy pyros were using the scorch shot so it's only fair
This was the best Halloween map imo. So chaotic and fun
I think we’ve learnt why these upgrades are reserved to use against bots
Funnily enough, Spy is probably the most overpowered class for this accursed map. Just maxing out speed + jump height makes you actual hell to deal with since you’ll constantly be behind or above everyone. Combine that with resistances while using a kunai makes you almost unkillable while you’re zooming around.
When i see kritz shortstop full upgrade my day turn into hell
Crit and Uber canteen made me cry multiple times trying to get the missions
Congrats blue. In your quest to be the best Pyro main ever you've created a video for next year so you can get third degree kills.
They really need to balance this map for next year, its either stomp or get stomped and both are extremely unfun.
"welcome to helllll"
quick note this maap does not take inspiration from uberupgrades it takes inspiration from Mann vs mann.
Man i wish i actually played the Halloween update now, hope this map comes back next year
You could have countered the thermal thruster with it’s counter hit-scan direct hit when it is fully upgraded
vac + the resistance upgrades from the shop
Time for enforcer spies and demoknights
HIS BIRDLNESS FINALLY POSTED, IT'S BEEN SO LOONGGG
And now: Great moments in unintended consequences!
tf2 youtubers when spy has a gun
Part of me feels bad for the bullying towards those players... but my other half is happy to see Blue playing Heavy ❤
I love stuns in first person shooters!!!
No idea if its a well known glitch or not but playing for my contract I found an infinite money glitch by switching around between classes on accident. All your upgrades would stay and your money would be refunded
3 vac Heavy, literal raid boss in TF2
respect for not releasing this during the update
God I remember demoknight being horrid on this map, especially when they get Uber canteens as well
You somehow created the only case where the third degree is the meta pick
It's been a while since I watched this channel and the Fire Emblem hitsounds sent me.
Somehow, I never saw this used during Halloween… maybe because of how unfun a one-sided fight becomes?
I’m not sure if it was even remotely good but all I did was buy 4 disposable sentries and max resists/building hp and run around dropping them (and a mini) where people were fighting
Abusing my "it" on the freaky map and by it i mean by uber
Solution: jetpack stun upgrade and 3rd degree
It's a Buff for the 3rd degree
Weapon upgrades in tf2 have always seemed like strange case to me
The one map where the Enforcer becomes one of the best weapons in the game.
once everyone learns about this strategy this map turns the game into overwatch
we have deadlock at home
Glunkes skebungus
The final boss of TF2
If you wanted overpowered, get out the gas passer.
The actual best strat is obvoiusly Backscratcher Pyro
Me playing a wacky game mode for serious
I loved playing on this map but it was all uber potion phlog players
when the fair is 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
Ah yes, first person Dota
game balance is my passion