Well, to be fair, that's true. They probably practiced to fight the Raven to eliminate him and he finally came across him but realized the strat doesn't work. He's basically half health by the time he realizes the mistake and it was already too late by then.
sometimes I forget that the player AC is already 10 meters tall, the Cataphract is massive, and what's scarier is that it's not even that large compared to other bosses.
Something like this is referenced in my school vr game where after the death of the demon Goalius and the Fall of the Seraphim Angel Emily when playing as the G man Skibidi toilet visiting Heaven Extermination Angels main base there's 2 Similators (1for Goalius and the other for his cousin Nogara)
I love how the PCA will keep trying, long after they’re dead. Inputting codes and sending battle information. They’re definitely not good guys. But, they’re devoted to the cause. I like it.
Well, there's also the tidbit of defeated persons either being killed or withdrawing- which the officers' dialogue kinda gives off. Would've been cool if this particular officer would have been the first operator of every special unit you fight as a continuity of his attempts to bring you in. 😅
I would argue that the PCA are actually the good guys and that we play as the bad guys (Minus the Liberator ending) or at the very least agents of chaos
"Whoever this is, it's not Raven." You could practically hear how screwed they felt upon realizing there were now 2 different, yet very powerful AC pilots named Raven.
"Whoever this is, it is not Raven." That line always gives me chills, for some reason. It really makes me wonder what the Original Raven was up to. They certainly had the PCA decidedly worried about them.
A cataphract was a form of armored heavy cavalry that originated in Persia and was fielded in ancient warfare throughout Eurasia and Northern Africa. Cataphracts served as the elite cavalry force for most empires and nations that fielded them, primarily used for charges to break through opposing heavy cavalry and infantry formations. Chronicled by many historians from the earliest days of antiquity up until the High Middle Ages, they may have influenced the later European knights, through contact with the Eastern Roman Empire. Sourced from Wikipedia. [Ayre is correct, just thought more context would be cool to share~]
Follows with their custom AC-esque mechs being called Light/Heavy Cavalry with the Cataphract being the ultimate version of it. The Ekdromoi were also elite Greek skrimishers as well, fits with their role as high mobile assassins.
It fits. LC and HC means Light Cavalry and Heavy Cavalry respectively so it makes sense that their biggest asskicking unit is named after an elite cavalry unit.
Spoilers: While you do admire the Original Raven's actions of leaking info on Rubicon, once you get to NG++, it is implied that him and the entire BRANCH merc group were basically told by the ALLMIND to do so. Basically everything that had ever transpired in Rubicon even before the cataclysm, were all orchestrated by the ALLMIND
As a Hobby historian, I'm very Happy that Fromsoftware decided to pay homage to some ancient military units such as the Cataphract and the Ekdromoi or even some famous historical figures like Sulla.
@@chaosgreyblood Sulla was a Roman dictator during the late Republic while Ekdromoi were a type of Greek hoplites their name means something like "the out-runners" since they were able to change formations and fight in irregular order. So one of the two is based on Greek military history.
I respect the Cataphract pilot, as he was burning up he respectfully and professionally reported to his superiors "Hey this pilot just wrecked my cheeks. Please verify."
@@sentientmustache8360 I saw the ekdromoi tommy gun and I was 100% expecting it to be an unlockable part. I felt betrayed when I learned that the government gets tommy guns but I don't
After watching an essay video about Armored Core's sheer scale, it honestly unnerves me that the Cataphract, a machine that looks like an MBT scaled up to armored core size with a lot more firepower, is somehow so fast that your first view of it is it drifting around the snow dunes like a stunt car!
I kind of hope we get a prequel DLC detailing all of the stuff Raven did. Raven is probably my favorite character in the game just by the virtue of them basically being the main character whose job is pretty much done.
The biggest sadness I felt since I pre ordered this game was not only was this beautiful machine not a part, but that it was a bad guy. I knew ever since the trailers but this mission makes me sad because how cool the Cataphract is. Sounds like there is more to the PCA and Raven, maybe in dlc I hope!!
Miyazaki likes to create characters with established backgrounds but shrouded in mystery. Why are people asking for this kind of DLC? lmao. I like the Original Raven the way he is, delving any deeper is just gonna ruin the character.
@@jack-exzolt9858I was specifically talking about the Cataphract as a part in a possible dlc. Some character dialog for clarity sake would be nice but I want those tank legs!
"The combat simulator has misslead me....
... BECAUSE HE IS KICKING MY ASS"
Well, to be fair, that's true. They probably practiced to fight the Raven to eliminate him and he finally came across him but realized the strat doesn't work.
He's basically half health by the time he realizes the mistake and it was already too late by then.
I really like how the PCA officers sounded like actual police/military officers.
It’s an interesting contrast with the faux military bravado of Balam.
Because they are
Let me join the PCA already! Please fromsoft!
@@samnunnink7575 Screw that, I wanna join mean ole Michigan and his crew!
@@Servellion Either or both would be good
the scariest part of the cataphract is in a war situation it could just run over like 25% of an army and its so fast as well
sometimes I forget that the player AC is already 10 meters tall, the Cataphract is massive, and what's scarier is that it's not even that large compared to other bosses.
@@validusername173 literally, like helianthropus machines could easily run through and entire city
@@validusername173someone made a spread model comparing AC to the core MT of the CATAPHRACT, it stood almost twice as big compared to an AC.
the fact that they created an entire combat simulator for the real raven speaks to how much of a menace they were
Something like this is referenced in my school vr game where after the death of the demon Goalius and the Fall of the Seraphim Angel Emily when playing as the G man Skibidi toilet visiting Heaven Extermination Angels main base there's 2 Similators (1for Goalius and the other for his cousin Nogara)
@@anwenlokier2292what?
@@anwenlokier2292say what
@anwenlokier2292 What is wrong with your school
@@piolewus tf you mean, unc? That's just your regular social studies.
I love how the PCA will keep trying, long after they’re dead. Inputting codes and sending battle information.
They’re definitely not good guys. But, they’re devoted to the cause. I like it.
Well, there's also the tidbit of defeated persons either being killed or withdrawing- which the officers' dialogue kinda gives off.
Would've been cool if this particular officer would have been the first operator of every special unit you fight as a continuity of his attempts to bring you in. 😅
im pretty sure those combat logs sent over are to the PCA’s AI
Well, technically they are the legal owners of the planet.
They're trying to prevent a disaster (Coral explosion like Fires of Ibis) that would decimate entire sectors. They're not really too in the wrong.
I would argue that the PCA are actually the good guys and that we play as the bad guys (Minus the Liberator ending) or at the very least agents of chaos
This fight definitely lived up to the trailer imo
"that AC does not match the profile for priority target Raven." the system says while you have the exact same load out as Raven
I think it also has to do with the way C4-621 fights. He fights a different way from Nightfall Raven
@@historian252not nightfall raven, it's the raven that died at the helicopter arena
It's presumed to be Nightfall- when you initially fight them, they state: "That's the mercenary who took your name."
You do realize they're not just looking at your loadouts, don't you?
@@motivatedemonShe made it sound like she was going to be watching you, which made it sound to me like that AC was unmanned
"Whoever this is, it's not Raven."
You could practically hear how screwed they felt upon realizing there were now 2 different, yet very powerful AC pilots named Raven.
"Whoever this is, it is not Raven."
That line always gives me chills, for some reason. It really makes me wonder what the Original Raven was up to. They certainly had the PCA decidedly worried about them.
“I don’t know who you are- BUT YOURE DEAD.”
A cataphract was a form of armored heavy cavalry that originated in Persia and was fielded in ancient warfare throughout Eurasia and Northern Africa.
Cataphracts served as the elite cavalry force for most empires and nations that fielded them, primarily used for charges to break through opposing heavy cavalry and infantry formations. Chronicled by many historians from the earliest days of antiquity up until the High Middle Ages, they may have influenced the later European knights, through contact with the Eastern Roman Empire.
Sourced from Wikipedia. [Ayre is correct, just thought more context would be cool to share~]
Follows with their custom AC-esque mechs being called Light/Heavy Cavalry with the Cataphract being the ultimate version of it. The Ekdromoi were also elite Greek skrimishers as well, fits with their role as high mobile assassins.
They had trample damage
Also a cataphract is a mech suit from a certain Starsector mod
It fits. LC and HC means Light Cavalry and Heavy Cavalry respectively so it makes sense that their biggest asskicking unit is named after an elite cavalry unit.
"Show my hound some respect"
Thank you so much for taking the time to show us this. Much love❤
Spoilers:
While you do admire the Original Raven's actions of leaking info on Rubicon, once you get to NG++, it is implied that him and the entire BRANCH merc group were basically told by the ALLMIND to do so. Basically everything that had ever transpired in Rubicon even before the cataclysm, were all orchestrated by the ALLMIND
You reached this conclusion with the data logs of dead independent mercenaries that state the "third factor" and "observing overseer" right?
As a Hobby historian, I'm very Happy that Fromsoftware decided to pay homage to some ancient military units such as the Cataphract and the Ekdromoi or even some famous historical figures like Sulla.
I may need a bit of context about the Ekdromoi and Sulla. Are they also based in Greece?
@@chaosgreyblood Sulla was a Roman dictator during the late Republic while Ekdromoi were a type of Greek hoplites their name means something like "the out-runners" since they were able to change formations and fight in irregular order. So one of the two is based on Greek military history.
2:35 that looked like pulling 617's charge but with a pile bunker
I respect the Cataphract pilot, as he was burning up he respectfully and professionally reported to his superiors "Hey this pilot just wrecked my cheeks. Please verify."
"Code 44, i got wiped out!"
Pretty chad move to use the Raven loadout anyways lol
I think one of the things that hurt me the most about the game was not being able to control a Cathaprhact
I want a mod / update where we get to pilot the PCA Units. Cataphract, Balteaus, Hell let me play as the Helicopter from the opening chapter!
@@OfferedThoughtsi’d be happy with getting LC/Ekdromoi parts
@@sentientmustache8360
Aren't the cavalry units way bigger than an AC? They definitely feel it, maybe one and a half to two times the height.
@@sentientmustache8360 I saw the ekdromoi tommy gun and I was 100% expecting it to be an unlockable part. I felt betrayed when I learned that the government gets tommy guns but I don't
@@Graknorke Light cavalry is same size. HC is bigger because "heavy cavalry".
Fighting him with 617’s build is the way to go, avenging 617
When I realized the Cataphract was the one from the trailer, the fight became 150% more personal.
After watching an essay video about Armored Core's sheer scale, it honestly unnerves me that the Cataphract, a machine that looks like an MBT scaled up to armored core size with a lot more firepower, is somehow so fast that your first view of it is it drifting around the snow dunes like a stunt car!
I kind of hope we get a prequel DLC detailing all of the stuff Raven did. Raven is probably my favorite character in the game just by the virtue of them basically being the main character whose job is pretty much done.
Honestly given how the pca was protecting the institute city i wouldnt be suprised if the pca was a group that originated from the institute
"Whoever this is, it's not Raven!"
Are you sure about that
Like really sure
Wanna take a second look just to be certain
i appreciate you using Nightfall Raven AC here lol
And don't forget to smile, tourist.
:)
My mans is literally piloting Nightfall, the fuck you mean that's not Raven's AC lmao
The biggest sadness I felt since I pre ordered this game was not only was this beautiful machine not a part, but that it was a bad guy. I knew ever since the trailers but this mission makes me sad because how cool the Cataphract is. Sounds like there is more to the PCA and Raven, maybe in dlc I hope!!
Miyazaki likes to create characters with established backgrounds but shrouded in mystery. Why are people asking for this kind of DLC? lmao. I like the Original Raven the way he is, delving any deeper is just gonna ruin the character.
@@jack-exzolt9858I was specifically talking about the Cataphract as a part in a possible dlc. Some character dialog for clarity sake would be nice but I want those tank legs!
@@azurespectrum1985 And that intsa-stagger laser spread gun.
Cataphract is way too cool
RIIGHT?! I hope they'd make a model kit out of it
I like how you chose to look exactly like the Nightfall Raven
I love this fight
Same, I wish it had a bigger spotlight like Balteus did, that laser really kept me on my toes for the entire fight.
huh never knew the cataphract had so much dialogue!
Corpse line goes hard
"That AC does not fit the profile for Priority Target Raven"
*is literally using the Nightfall build*
Are you sure about that?!
0:45 So, there WAS another Raven... Interesting
I was like, did they can transfer their consciousness to their master, the ais
Bro this misson was fun
Buh buh I am using the nightfall presset :,,,,(
here i thought we can be amongus with Raven parts
guess nothing changed really
Wierdly enough I struggled more against this dude than against any ither boss