I'm glad I found this channel, great content and well sourced info, no wasting time repeating the same story and dragging out the video for the sake of it.. A breath of fresh air ❤
@@ellieinspace I love you videos, I am a subscriber and I recommend your videos to other people. One impressive way to 'turbocharge' the big landmass and its people, America and Canada, would be to wipe away the border which stunts progress, divides people and creates tension at times. Elon or some other wealthy person with influence should be able to fork out some money to Canadian adults to make it happen since there are only about 33 million adults in Canada. Just think of Canadians as well as people from other nations who have gone to America to seek their fame and fortune and have been successful. A prime example would be S. African born Elon Musk who spent three years in Canada where his mother was born, went south to America to seek his fame and fortune and is likely to become the world's first trillionaire. Canada has a shrinking GDP per capita, a weakening Canadian dollar, inflation issues, an increasing cost of living and housing crisis. Some Canadians still think that they need a king ' hovering ' over them in these modern times who lives on a faraway island but what they really do need are lower taxes and a strong (American) military to protect the arctic. Ownership of the arctic means nothing if you can't defend it and Canada has no ability to defend it so Canada is fully dependent on the US for its protection. In April 2021 Putin filed a submission to extend a claim to the Arctic, all the way into the Canadian and Greenland (Denmark) continental shelf and economic zone, as part of Russia's continental shelf. Its a situation where they're claiming the entire Arctic Canadian and Danish continental shelf as part of the Russian continental shelf. In 2018 Beijing agreed that it would cooperate with Russia on a new Arctic silk route, signing 20 bilateral documents and agreeing to invest in the region. As part of this, Beijing will build several Chinese docks across Russia's north in ports. Russia demands permission for ships to use the Northeast Passage including the use of Russian pilot ships. Putin wants control of the Arctic trade routes and the natural resources in the Arctic. If America and Canada united, it would be the worlds largest country and it would be over one million square miles larger than Russia. So Ellie, if you ever have another chat with Elon or someone with influence, please plant the AmericaCanada unification seed in his brain so that it will sprout. What a huge 'playground' we would all have if it happens.
28 days max. The problem is that if you give 180 days nothing happens till the last week. How long does it take to do the work? Not 28 days at all. Someone needs to check how much time is spent on each step of the approval, only then can a stipulation be made as to how long this really takes.
With NASA its never a leak since its a federal agency and all its data should be public. Thank you so much Elie for all the hard work and interviews you do for us!
@@rc44004NASA paid SpaceX to do what NASA itself failed miserably at doing… affordable, sustainable space. Just saying.. Federal Agency NASA has spent $1 trillion on US space in the 52 years since Apollo without getting a single American beyond Low Earth Orbit, leaving itself incompetent/incapable of crewing or even resupplying our own space station.
New license for a completely new ship: 180 days is fine. One for an "iterated" ship where less than 20% of the ship was changed, 30 days if and ONLY if there was no "catastrophic event" that occurred in the previous launch. In this example, 180 days for IFT's 1 and 2 is fine. IFT-5 is borderline because of adding the catch attempt. However, 6 did not need 180 days.
Does anyone really think that the FAA, EPA, FWS, etc. oversight improves safety, or adds any other significant value? I seriously doubt it. Does anyone think their oversight reduces environmental impacts? It's probably just the opposite. Starship's methalox Raptor engines are inherently cleaner than the kerolox Merlin engines used by Falcon-9, and much, *_much_* cleaner than the SRBs used by some other companies. By slowing down Starship development, federal regulators are retarding the adoption of cleaner rockets.
@@ncdave4life There could also be an argument made that, because the government themselves are a competitor in the space industry through NASA, that they could be rigging the system in their favor. I remember going to KSC back in 2019, and it was "ULA this, ULA that", and seemed like they wanted nothing to do with SpaceX or Blue Origin, despite the former likely being the reason for about 60% of their attendance. One measly little rack in the gift shop, and that's it. Is there legitimate safety concern for entrants? Absolutely. A completely independent third party would be ideal for the actor, though we know that's practically impossible in today's day and age.
Great episode. But you forgot about the antenna/lightning rod that was damaged on IFT6. It sounds small, but there are new prints about a possible replacement, and how they are going to fix it (if they do), for IFT7. We will see atleast 15 launches next year, and a ton of upgrades including Pad B. - Stay great, happy
I'm guessing that the launch re-direct was the intent the whole time. Starship went from being a fun project to a very serious piece of technology when, on IFT4, it was proven to work(and later shown to work on IFT5). I don't think the military wants foreign countries to start copying the design of the space craft so they probably wanted to make sure that less intelligence could be gained from additional catches.
I thought about taking my 18-year old during Spring Break from high school in March, but then realized South Padre Island is probably not ideal due to college kids flooding the place. Perhaps we'll just plan on the trip to S.P.I. in February for four days (skip a few days of school for some different "education") to see Starbase, and hope we're lucky enough to see a launch. Presumably flight 8. Thanks for all you do, Ellie. You are the best.
My family was working around Corpus Christi for a winter a couple years ago, and we took a day trip down to Brownsville and Boca Chica around New Year's Day. Not much traffic, but certainly admirers there. Even if you don't make a Starship flight, it's still something amazing to drive through. Definitely go see a launch in person if you get the chance, though. Even if it's a Falcon 9 sending up Starlink satellites, which happens about every week or two at this point. There's nothing like seeing one in person.
As for the FAA 180-day to approve. The FAA is absolutely chitting their pants at the thought of D.O.G.E. opening their books to investigate things. I say, it’s a little too little and a little too late to save themselves. D.O.G.E. is going to be Awesome!!
3:30 It's a lot to require 180 days for the decision on a flight license. Whatever is on that checklist, some items should go, others should be trimmed, and some processes should be parallelized so the license can take 2-3 months at most, if not 30 days.
I plan on being there for flight 8. Hopefully I will be able to get a room and flight there once they release a launch date. I can't wait. Love all of your videos. Thank you so much for all you do to keep us space geeks well informed.
Thanks for the update Ellie. I want to take some family to see starbase and a flight. This is going to take some significant preplanning, due to the traffic congestion.
Ive been saving for a while now trying to get over from Australia - We're aiming for whenever a launch is around May next year. I just really hope acess hasn't changed by then to get out on the flats! Been following SX since just after falcon landed that got me hooked!
Thank you for your expert reporting, Ellie! I really would like to be there to see the Starship launch to Mars since I saw the first lunar landing at home when I was 7 years old.
I'll second Ellie's comments about the traffic jam in Isla Blanca park. It took us a little over 2.5 hours to exit, and we were in one of the last lots close to the exit. I heard it took some folks over 4 hours to leave. I'll definitely be walking to the park next time!
@@ellieinspace I love your videos, I am a subscriber and I recommend your videos to other people. One impressive way to 'turbocharge' the big landmass and its people, America and Canada, would be to wipe away the border which stunts progress, divides people and creates tension at times. Elon or some other wealthy person with influence should be able to fork out some money to Canadian adults to make it happen since there are only about 33 million adults in Canada. Just think of Canadians as well as people from other nations who have gone to America to seek their fame and fortune and have been successful. A prime example would be S. African born Elon Musk who spent three years in Canada where his mother was born, went south to America to seek his fame and fortune and is likely to become the world's first trillionaire. Canada has a shrinking GDP per capita, a weakening Canadian dollar, inflation issues, an increasing cost of living and housing crisis. Some Canadians still think that they need a king ' hovering ' over them in these modern times who lives on a faraway island but what they really do need are lower taxes and a strong (American) military to protect the arctic. Ownership of the arctic means nothing if you can't defend it and Canada has no ability to defend it so Canada is fully dependent on the US for its protection. In April 2021 Putin filed a submission to extend a claim to the Arctic, all the way into the Canadian and Greenland (Denmark) continental shelf and economic zone, as part of Russia's continental shelf. Its a situation where they're claiming the entire Arctic Canadian and Danish continental shelf as part of the Russian continental shelf. In 2018 Beijing agreed that it would cooperate with Russia on a new Arctic silk route, signing 20 bilateral documents and agreeing to invest in the region. As part of this, Beijing will build several Chinese docks across Russia's north in ports. Russia demands permission for ships to use the Northeast Passage including the use of Russian pilot ships. Putin wants control of the Arctic trade routes and the natural resources in the Arctic. If America and Canada united, it would be the worlds largest country and it would be over one million square miles larger than Russia. So Ellie, if you ever have another chat with Elon or someone with influence, please plant the AmericaCanada unification seed in his brain so that it will sprout. What a huge 'playground' we would all have if it happens.
FAA became surprisingly fast recently) The irony is that if they don't give SpaceX needed permissions, Musk may actually dismiss half of the agency next year.
To be honest, I am disapointed that there is nearly two months to test flight 7. Now Elon cannot blame FAA, I had expected that the next flight to be within a month.
Hi, Ellie! I just booked a room with ocean view for 9-13Jan. I got the Holiday Inn on South Padre Island. Is that the right one? I think you said that hotel at one of the better views. I'm not sure where I'll fly into yet.
@@tnnetnattninuttn4627 Eh, you have a point. But if they far bmore aeronautical licences, doesn't that mean that 146 additional licences is a small addition?
@@stainlesssteelfox1 Well, if it was only 14 10 years ago, it is a big increase and I also imagine that these are somehow different from planes licences. So the person doing it has a lot of work studying the particular rocket and the infrastructure around it. I dont think it is a trivial work. Just like look this rocket here is supposed to fly up and then some, and the person reviewing it is like ok, just make sure to not hit that duck over yonder.
If the launch license is for a brand new rocket and launch infrastructure, then 180 days is probably reasonable. So the New Glenn license taking 180 days is fine. And remember that most licenses are for multiple launches. But a license that is based on a previous license should be much, much faster. The biggest delays would be for required public comment periods, if any.
Regarding your question about 180 days… There should be no delay. In fact the FAA should be not allowed to do this anymore, if anything, preferably an agency that just does rockets. Or like Elon says, the best part is no part, by that I mean no agency at all, just let them do what they're gonna do, they obviously do it the safest way they can.
It’s a new rocket which is also the largest and most powerful in history. For the first dozen launches they should be regulated so they can prove they’re safe to fly over populated areas. It’s not “slowing down progress” or whatever people say but rather is protecting people until the rocket is easy to fly.
180 days from application to approval or denial was reasonable about 2 or 3 decades ago.However, it is shockingly slow of a process given SpaceX's record and planned increase of launches from multiple companies.
There is zero excuse to take that long with minimal changes to the flight plan. You have indicated this will be like both 5 and 6 so zero excuse for a delayed approval. The one after that if they are trying to catch it that’s a significant change to the flight plan and so a longer review may be warranted imho….
6 months??? It shouldn't be longer than 6 days to approve! Even here in South Africa it doesn't take so long to get paperwork done in a government department! And that's saying something!!
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I'm of the opinion that 180 days for a license approval is idiotically oppressive. I think that even in the case of an "incident," a time of maybe 45 days is adequate. I think that 30 days under normal cases is more than adequate time for the paper shuffling to take place.
I think the DOD put a ton of pressure on the FAA after IFT4. Before IFT4, no one outside of SpaceX really thought the Starship would work. After that launch, every brilliant rocket scientist or engineer in the Pentagon was probably panicking. Everyone thinks IFT5 was the greatest launch but IFT4 was actually the big one. Imagine you're a general and you just found out some civilian company invented something that has huge national security implications. The first thing you want to do is get them to take a pause so that you can get control of the situation, vet the engineers, and have a very important talk with the CEO about national security issues.
180 days for a new rocket system and or new launch facility doesn't seem out of line. However, for an established rocket system and launch facility that seems overly long. Expecially when there hasn't been any serious safety issues
6 months might have been just fine back in the 1970s but we are not in the 1970s anymore. I say 2 weeks at the most if they are not major changes between models. And with major changes 30 days
Met you beachside before IFT 6 and have already bought my pass at Rocket Ranch for Flight 7. Come by for a cold one! (Maybe the wind wont keep trying to blow your launch bonnet off! LOL)
180 days is excessive. Parameters and analysis is readily available and does not change significantly between missions. If there was a premium on rocket launch achievements, the government would find a way to improve. No incentive means 6 months. 5 4 3 2 1 ignition. Go Elon. Go SpaceX Go Ellie!!!
I think 180 days is fine for a new company or a totally new launch facility or a new passenger-carrying experimental spacecraft. But otherwise, 30 days sounds sufficient, and if they need longer in a specific instance, they should justify it. For non-experimental launches, 7 days.
Love your channel! As I live in the Great White North, I will wait until both the booster and starship have made several catches before travelling all the way down there. Fall/winter of 2025/2026👍
2:42 So they brag about 49 licensing actions, which is just over 4 actions per month and it doesn't seem much. 23 environmental reviews are nearly 2 per month. But 810 inspections? That sounds like a lot of paperwork, and I wonder how much they tried to streamline the inspection process.
Ellie, why do they keep landing on the SEA? Do you know or can you ask around? Surely the ship can land on a sand bar somewhere at this point. It's annoying me! ❤
Starship flight test 7 will be the seventh flight test of a SpaceX Starship launch vehicle. The prototype vehicles expected to be flown are Ship 33, the first Block 2 upper stage, and Booster 14, a Block 1 vehicle.
Ok so how many towers are they going to construct at boka chica? Sustained operations could take as many as 5 or 6 for setting up one or two new launches while have 3 towers ready to do a grab the launch tower and two that are green lite.. I mean that's a lot of space when you consider safety distances in case of the boom.. this is pretty easy math if it tacks 50-70 days to build up a starship stack and test it and prep it to go (yes we all expect that number to drop but) one per month take at least 5 maybe more land in Florida for catching boosters, the logistics of referb it and load it on a barge back to Boca is not crazy I am not sure the booster has enough delta V and altitude to get to KSC without running dry? lots of questions
Appreciating main info at the start of the video, i'm going to watch the rest now :-)
Awesome, thank you!
I didn’t want to gate keep
Ellie in Space; a go to source for solid, reliable space news with a little fun thrown in. Thanks!
Ellie is really hitting her stride with all the interviews now. I love seeing new stuff uniquely only here!
This channel is getting legit with its own animation logo! Nice job 👍🏼 and great coverage of the latest with starship
I'm glad I found this channel, great content and well sourced info, no wasting time repeating the same story and dragging out the video for the sake of it.. A breath of fresh air ❤
Much appreciated!
Awesome intel Ellie!
Great great update Ellie! Love your content and your presentations skills 🫶
Thanks so much! 😊
I guess all those years in tv news helped a lot 😅
@@ellieinspace I love you videos, I am a subscriber and I recommend your videos to other people.
One impressive way to 'turbocharge' the big landmass and its people, America and Canada, would be to wipe away the border which stunts progress, divides people and creates tension at times.
Elon or some other wealthy person with influence should be able to fork out some money to Canadian adults to make it happen since there are only about 33 million adults in Canada.
Just think of Canadians as well as people from other nations who have gone to America to seek their fame and fortune and have been successful.
A prime example would be S. African born Elon Musk who spent three years in Canada where his mother was born, went south to America to seek his fame and fortune and is likely to become the world's first trillionaire.
Canada has a shrinking GDP per capita, a weakening Canadian dollar, inflation issues, an increasing cost of living and housing crisis.
Some Canadians still think that they need a king ' hovering ' over them in these modern times who lives on a faraway island but what they really do need are lower taxes and a strong (American) military to protect the arctic.
Ownership of the arctic means nothing if you can't defend it and Canada has no ability to defend it so Canada is fully dependent on the US for its protection.
In April 2021 Putin filed a submission to extend a claim to the Arctic, all the way into the Canadian and Greenland (Denmark) continental shelf and economic zone, as part of Russia's continental shelf. Its a situation where they're claiming the entire Arctic Canadian and Danish continental shelf as part of the Russian continental shelf.
In 2018 Beijing agreed that it would cooperate with Russia on a new Arctic silk route, signing 20 bilateral documents and agreeing to invest in the region. As part of this, Beijing will build several Chinese docks across Russia's north in ports.
Russia demands permission for ships to use the Northeast Passage including the use of Russian pilot ships.
Putin wants control of the Arctic trade routes and the natural resources in the Arctic.
If America and Canada united, it would be the worlds largest country and it would be over one million square miles larger than Russia.
So Ellie, if you ever have another chat with Elon or someone with influence, please plant the AmericaCanada unification seed in his brain so that it will sprout.
What a huge 'playground' we would all have if it happens.
Keep up the great content Ellie!!
thank you for watching! I do it 4 u
1:55
This was an excellent video. Very informative with nitty gritty information that you don't get from the bigger channels
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks girl you have brought a whole new point of view to one of my favorite subjects
Keep putting out great content and by the 8th flight you will probably be at 200k subs.👍
Great summary and found the information insightful. Thank you Ellie for all the work you do.
28 days max. The problem is that if you give 180 days nothing happens till the last week. How long does it take to do the work? Not 28 days at all. Someone needs to check how much time is spent on each step of the approval, only then can a stipulation be made as to how long this really takes.
And let D.O.G.E. do it's job first. We might see those steps streamlined to just 14 days.
With NASA its never a leak since its a federal agency and all its data should be public.
Thank you so much Elie for all the hard work and interviews you do for us!
Elon Musk make his fortune on Government contracts.Just saying!
@@rc44004NASA paid SpaceX to do what NASA itself failed miserably at doing… affordable, sustainable space. Just saying..
Federal Agency NASA has spent $1 trillion on US space in the 52 years since Apollo without getting a single American beyond Low Earth Orbit, leaving itself incompetent/incapable of crewing or even resupplying our own space station.
Thanks for the Starship news update, Ellie. Plenty to be positive about.
Thank you, Ellie!
New license for a completely new ship: 180 days is fine. One for an "iterated" ship where less than 20% of the ship was changed, 30 days if and ONLY if there was no "catastrophic event" that occurred in the previous launch. In this example, 180 days for IFT's 1 and 2 is fine. IFT-5 is borderline because of adding the catch attempt. However, 6 did not need 180 days.
Does anyone really think that the FAA, EPA, FWS, etc. oversight improves safety, or adds any other significant value? I seriously doubt it.
Does anyone think their oversight reduces environmental impacts? It's probably just the opposite. Starship's methalox Raptor engines are inherently cleaner than the kerolox Merlin engines used by Falcon-9, and much, *_much_* cleaner than the SRBs used by some other companies. By slowing down Starship development, federal regulators are retarding the adoption of cleaner rockets.
@@ncdave4life There could also be an argument made that, because the government themselves are a competitor in the space industry through NASA, that they could be rigging the system in their favor. I remember going to KSC back in 2019, and it was "ULA this, ULA that", and seemed like they wanted nothing to do with SpaceX or Blue Origin, despite the former likely being the reason for about 60% of their attendance. One measly little rack in the gift shop, and that's it.
Is there legitimate safety concern for entrants? Absolutely. A completely independent third party would be ideal for the actor, though we know that's practically impossible in today's day and age.
Great episode. But you forgot about the antenna/lightning rod that was damaged on IFT6. It sounds small, but there are new prints about a possible replacement, and how they are going to fix it (if they do), for IFT7.
We will see atleast 15 launches next year, and a ton of upgrades including Pad B.
- Stay great, happy
I'm guessing that the launch re-direct was the intent the whole time. Starship went from being a fun project to a very serious piece of technology when, on IFT4, it was proven to work(and later shown to work on IFT5). I don't think the military wants foreign countries to start copying the design of the space craft so they probably wanted to make sure that less intelligence could be gained from additional catches.
I thought about taking my 18-year old during Spring Break from high school in March, but then realized South Padre Island is probably not ideal due to college kids flooding the place. Perhaps we'll just plan on the trip to S.P.I. in February for four days (skip a few days of school for some different "education") to see Starbase, and hope we're lucky enough to see a launch. Presumably flight 8. Thanks for all you do, Ellie. You are the best.
My family was working around Corpus Christi for a winter a couple years ago, and we took a day trip down to Brownsville and Boca Chica around New Year's Day. Not much traffic, but certainly admirers there. Even if you don't make a Starship flight, it's still something amazing to drive through. Definitely go see a launch in person if you get the chance, though. Even if it's a Falcon 9 sending up Starlink satellites, which happens about every week or two at this point. There's nothing like seeing one in person.
As for the FAA 180-day to approve. The FAA is absolutely chitting their pants at the thought of D.O.G.E. opening their books to investigate things.
I say, it’s a little too little and a little too late to save themselves.
D.O.G.E. is going to be Awesome!!
Thanks for the heads up.
3:30 It's a lot to require 180 days for the decision on a flight license. Whatever is on that checklist, some items should go, others should be trimmed, and some processes should be parallelized so the license can take 2-3 months at most, if not 30 days.
Only the government would hire 165 people to file 148 pieces of paperwork. 😂
Hey, these are artisanal hand crafted paperworks. A lot of time, effort and love goes into each and every one.
great update as always Ellie ❤
Great info. Ellie thx :)
I plan on being there for flight 8. Hopefully I will be able to get a room and flight there once they release a launch date. I can't wait. Love all of your videos. Thank you so much for all you do to keep us space geeks well informed.
Thanks for the update Ellie. I want to take some family to see starbase and a flight. This is going to take some significant preplanning, due to the traffic congestion.
Ive been saving for a while now trying to get over from Australia - We're aiming for whenever a launch is around May next year. I just really hope acess hasn't changed by then to get out on the flats! Been following SX since just after falcon landed that got me hooked!
I heard that they going to change the ship alot next time. Great video have a great thanks
Yup. More propellant, improved Pez door, new front flap design and location.
You rock, keep it up with the great content. 🇺🇸😎🐶
Thank you for your expert reporting, Ellie! I really would like to be there to see the Starship launch to Mars since I saw the first lunar landing at home when I was 7 years old.
I'll second Ellie's comments about the traffic jam in Isla Blanca park. It took us a little over 2.5 hours to exit, and we were in one of the last lots close to the exit. I heard it took some folks over 4 hours to leave. I'll definitely be walking to the park next time!
lol I love the Dogepat camo job on the cybertruck at 6:35
Next Starship; IFT7 is scheduled for Jan 11, 2025.
Woohooooo!!!
@@ellieinspace I love your videos, I am a subscriber and I recommend your videos to other people.
One impressive way to 'turbocharge' the big landmass and its people, America and Canada, would be to wipe away the border which stunts progress, divides people and creates tension at times.
Elon or some other wealthy person with influence should be able to fork out some money to Canadian adults to make it happen since there are only about 33 million adults in Canada.
Just think of Canadians as well as people from other nations who have gone to America to seek their fame and fortune and have been successful.
A prime example would be S. African born Elon Musk who spent three years in Canada where his mother was born, went south to America to seek his fame and fortune and is likely to become the world's first trillionaire.
Canada has a shrinking GDP per capita, a weakening Canadian dollar, inflation issues, an increasing cost of living and housing crisis.
Some Canadians still think that they need a king ' hovering ' over them in these modern times who lives on a faraway island but what they really do need are lower taxes and a strong (American) military to protect the arctic.
Ownership of the arctic means nothing if you can't defend it and Canada has no ability to defend it so Canada is fully dependent on the US for its protection.
In April 2021 Putin filed a submission to extend a claim to the Arctic, all the way into the Canadian and Greenland (Denmark) continental shelf and economic zone, as part of Russia's continental shelf. Its a situation where they're claiming the entire Arctic Canadian and Danish continental shelf as part of the Russian continental shelf.
In 2018 Beijing agreed that it would cooperate with Russia on a new Arctic silk route, signing 20 bilateral documents and agreeing to invest in the region. As part of this, Beijing will build several Chinese docks across Russia's north in ports.
Russia demands permission for ships to use the Northeast Passage including the use of Russian pilot ships.
Putin wants control of the Arctic trade routes and the natural resources in the Arctic.
If America and Canada united, it would be the worlds largest country and it would be over one million square miles larger than Russia.
So Ellie, if you ever have another chat with Elon or someone with influence, please plant the AmericaCanada unification seed in his brain so that it will sprout.
What a huge 'playground' we would all have if it happens.
Nice birthday present for me 😊
@@poppingbubblewrap-t3x haha its the day after my birthday too :)
Cutting the FAA launch approval time from 180 days to 90 days would be a good start.
Still way, way too long.
I love the D.O.G.E. Cybertruck at 6:33!
Got a room booked for Flight 7 since it's a weekend. All the pad remotes worked last time so now I'm keen to build on that success.
Hi Eilie, great job. You're growing like crazy. Where would you suggest making arrangements to see the flight? We will be in a 36-foot RV. ANY ideas?
So, flight 7 will do a suborbital flight? I thought they would go full orbital next.
Somehow Ellie always finds the interesting news :D
FAA became surprisingly fast recently)
The irony is that if they don't give SpaceX needed permissions, Musk may actually dismiss half of the agency next year.
I think you imagine a lot, know less.
@@imaginary_friend7300 I know that he is the head of department of government efficiency now. You didn't know that?
@@SolarWindsRider How can he be head of a departement that does not exist?
To be honest, I am disapointed that there is nearly two months to test flight 7. Now Elon cannot blame FAA, I had expected that the next flight to be within a month.
@@aaaaa5272 just how Trump can be the newly elected president even though Biden is still in office ;)
That's one Launch
every two weeks approximately. That'll make things very interesting. I want to see if it'll happen!
Looking forward to getting our next piece of artificial Spacex reef here in Aussie
Could be worse. Thanks to the objections of a few native Hawaiians, there will never be another telescope built on Mauna Loa.
Amazingly Bad.
Hi, Ellie! I just booked a room with ocean view for 9-13Jan. I got the Holiday Inn on South Padre Island. Is that the right one? I think you said that hotel at one of the better views. I'm not sure where I'll fly into yet.
So with the increased launch licenses The FAA must decrease their red tape by 900 percent I think.
Vivek and Elon will be on their butta now.
❤ Great 👍🚀
180 days seems long but is also seems crazy that there is one number regardless of the complexity of the application.
The fact that they have 180 days and did not complete 100% of them is troubling. Put on a ton more staff and still cant get them all done. BS.
They say 146 launches like it was a lot. From the number of people in their office, they have over a man year of effort to put into each licence.
Are commercial space flights the only thing that the FAA is taking care of?
@@tnnetnattninuttn4627 Eh, you have a point. But if they far bmore aeronautical licences, doesn't that mean that 146 additional licences is a small addition?
@@stainlesssteelfox1 Well, if it was only 14 10 years ago, it is a big increase and I also imagine that these are somehow different from planes licences. So the person doing it has a lot of work studying the particular rocket and the infrastructure around it. I dont think it is a trivial work. Just like look this rocket here is supposed to fly up and then some, and the person reviewing it is like ok, just make sure to not hit that duck over yonder.
If SpaceX is serious about 25 launches in 2025, they better start in January! Thanks for the update 😊
If the launch license is for a brand new rocket and launch infrastructure, then 180 days is probably reasonable. So the New Glenn license taking 180 days is fine. And remember that most licenses are for multiple launches. But a license that is based on a previous license should be much, much faster. The biggest delays would be for required public comment periods, if any.
Well, she said it usually is much faster.
Regarding your question about 180 days…
There should be no delay. In fact the FAA should be not allowed to do this anymore, if anything, preferably an agency that just does rockets. Or like Elon says, the best part is no part, by that I mean no agency at all, just let them do what they're gonna do, they obviously do it the safest way they can.
SpaceX will do it the safest way they can, but not everybody would. NASA ignored safety measures and checks quite often during the Shuttle program.
@@overcomingobstaclescreates1695 valid point
That’s absolutely ridiculous. The FAA oughta be removed from spaceflight operations.
It’s a new rocket which is also the largest and most powerful in history. For the first dozen launches they should be regulated so they can prove they’re safe to fly over populated areas. It’s not “slowing down progress” or whatever people say but rather is protecting people until the rocket is easy to fly.
180 days from application to approval or denial was reasonable about 2 or 3 decades ago.However, it is shockingly slow of a process given SpaceX's record and planned increase of launches from multiple companies.
Flight 8 is going to be the one to go see. I’ve already started some preplaning
Going back for the ship catch and staying in the SPI hotels this time🙂that traffic was wild
There is zero excuse to take that long with minimal changes to the flight plan. You have indicated this will be like both 5 and 6 so zero excuse for a delayed approval. The one after that if they are trying to catch it that’s a significant change to the flight plan and so a longer review may be warranted imho….
6 months??? It shouldn't be longer than 6 days to approve! Even here in South Africa it doesn't take so long to get paperwork done in a government department! And that's saying something!!
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I'm of the opinion that 180 days for a license approval is idiotically oppressive. I think that even in the case of an "incident," a time of maybe 45 days is adequate. I think that 30 days under normal cases is more than adequate time for the paper shuffling to take place.
And I bet the one thing your opinion lacks is any actual understanding of how the process actually works.
It's too be expected, if they are having 25 flights they'll probably be doing a couple test flights per month
Already booked! See ya at margaritaville 🎉
Can't wait!
I think next fall will be my trip to Boca Chica, more of a really busy/time thing, but definitely looking forward to seeing a launch/double catch.
Yay I live in Perth! And I thought I was the furthest from starship you can get :)
So 165 overpaid bureaucrats vs. thousands of SpaceX workers.
They need to step it up.
I think the DOD put a ton of pressure on the FAA after IFT4. Before IFT4, no one outside of SpaceX really thought the Starship would work. After that launch, every brilliant rocket scientist or engineer in the Pentagon was probably panicking. Everyone thinks IFT5 was the greatest launch but IFT4 was actually the big one.
Imagine you're a general and you just found out some civilian company invented something that has huge national security implications. The first thing you want to do is get them to take a pause so that you can get control of the situation, vet the engineers, and have a very important talk with the CEO about national security issues.
2025 Goal for me is to head from Phx to Tx and watch a launch and hopefully a catch or two. And Thanks Ellie for all your Great coverage.
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Can’t intelligently comment since I don’t know what exactly is involved in assessing a given launch request.
Thanks
Oh NO, not till January 11!! How can I wait so long?
180 days for a new rocket system and or new launch facility doesn't seem out of line. However, for an established rocket system and launch facility that seems overly long. Expecially when there hasn't been any serious safety issues
6 months might have been just fine back in the 1970s but we are not in the 1970s anymore. I say 2 weeks at the most if they are not major changes between models. And with major changes 30 days
As long as Spacex is paying for the expedite and FAA doesn't cut corners, I'm all for expediting license approvals
180 HOURS seems to me a more reasonable deadline for the FAA to approve a spaceflight.
I hope Ellie is nice and healthy & happy plus not being too hard on herself.
Met you beachside before IFT 6 and have already bought my pass at Rocket Ranch for Flight 7. Come by for a cold one! (Maybe the wind wont keep trying to blow your launch bonnet off! LOL)
180 days is excessive. Parameters and analysis is readily available and does not change significantly between missions. If there was a premium on rocket launch achievements, the government would find a way to improve. No incentive means 6 months. 5 4 3 2 1 ignition. Go Elon. Go SpaceX
Go Ellie!!!
I think 180 days is fine for a new company or a totally new launch facility or a new passenger-carrying experimental spacecraft. But otherwise, 30 days sounds sufficient, and if they need longer in a specific instance, they should justify it. For non-experimental launches, 7 days.
hope to catch you on flight 7 I’ll make it there
2:24 That's over an order of magnitude more than a decade ago. You can see Elon's touch there. 😆
Is there a Space x store, we will be down all February
180 days would be an issue if the launch plans are not taking more than 180 days to develop. Most launches seem to be years in the making.
Neither can I, I mean waiting for 2025! It's going to be amazing! Not only for SpaceX but for the world too.
Good day from Goonellabah, NSW, Australia. Why don't they land StarShip of Coast Port Headland, WA, in future?
It might be reasonable to take 180 days for completely new request, but " more of the same or similar" should take no more than 30 days.
Do you think the 180 day approval time will be needed after OCST is removed from FAA jurisdiction, or will it speed up? Same staff I imagine.
Love your channel! As I live in the Great White North, I will wait until both the booster and starship have made several catches before travelling all the way down there. Fall/winter of 2025/2026👍
It shouldn't take more than a week to approve a launch license, especially from an established company like SpaceX.
They are hiring, so if you think you can go over the load of work that fast you can join them and show the others.
2:42 So they brag about 49 licensing actions, which is just over 4 actions per month and it doesn't seem much. 23 environmental reviews are nearly 2 per month. But 810 inspections? That sounds like a lot of paperwork, and I wonder how much they tried to streamline the inspection process.
180 days for a license is glacial and unacceptable.
already got my tickets for jan 11th!
180 hours should be more than sufficient.
So the average workload is slightly less than one approval a year for each employee. Seems legit.
What happens to the sea ditched booster etc.. ? Is there pollution or recovery?
YEAHHHHHH
We are waiting for new launches, we are waiting for new victories Space X in the new year 🐍
Ellie, why do they keep landing on the SEA? Do you know or can you ask around? Surely the ship can land on a sand bar somewhere at this point. It's annoying me! ❤
Well, thanx for the news Ellie ! But, C'mon - Launch 7, which Starship #, Booster # ?
Starship flight test 7 will be the seventh flight test of a SpaceX Starship launch vehicle. The prototype vehicles expected to be flown are Ship 33, the first Block 2 upper stage, and Booster 14, a Block 1 vehicle.
Gonna wait for 8 when they catch both. Exciting times
Ok so how many towers are they going to construct at boka chica? Sustained operations could take as many as 5 or 6 for setting up one or two new launches while have 3 towers ready to do a grab the launch tower and two that are green lite.. I mean that's a lot of space when you consider safety distances in case of the boom.. this is pretty easy math if it tacks 50-70 days to build up a starship stack and test it and prep it to go (yes we all expect that number to drop but) one per month take at least 5
maybe more land in Florida for catching boosters, the logistics of referb it and load it on a barge back to Boca is not crazy I am not sure the booster has enough delta V and altitude to get to KSC without running dry? lots of questions