I've been something of a hobby plant breeder for over a decade. Grow with an open mind and practice patience. Plant breeding is a project for a lifetime not a season. Great conversation!
The most fun has probably been working with sarracenias(American pitcher plants) all species in the group hybridize and produce fertile offspring. I crossed for variety and cold hardiness years ago, then let time and winters sort them out. I've got a few hundred survivors that are tough as nails and quite pretty! I've only started recently on vegetables and your channel is great inspiration. My only hands on experiences with land races is in cannabis and I'm not sure how much that counts since they're all taken out of their environment.
I’ve recently embarked on hobby plant breeding too. Last year was a bust for my dwarf sunflower project as slugs ate them all, but found a great wild kale for my kale project in a little fishing village called Staines. It was growing out the harbour wall, at the foot of cliffs, just everywhere. It was all flowering, so managed to get seeds 😊
Oh boy, I suspect Steve Solomon does not agree with my conclusions! (Julia here). But also, welcome! I loved your last corn planting video and I wanted to talk to you about including it in Joseph Lofthouse's online course. Plus other fun stuff :)
@@landracegardening5631 That's an interesting comment, would you be willing to share why you believe this to be true? Solomon is cool, read some of his work and definitely benefited from the knowledge. I just discovered this channel and am devouring the content. I think you deserve many more subscribers so I'm sharing some of your videos with multiple people.
I can't tell you how happy I am that I came across this channel and this topic. I have kept my seeds but then I was scared to replant because of the issues that you were referring to but this year I have been doing some winter sowing and I have decided to go ahead and plant those seeds and give this a shot I would love to be able to do all of this for a living but maybe one day
Wow, I didn't know how I garden had a name... Landrace? I have let things cross and save seeds for years. Sometimes I get things I don't like but most of the time I'm pleasantly surprised. Listening to you I can see I need to be more intentional with selection that I save.
I'm glad you decided to go for it, Julia! The course is so worth it! I really appreciate being able to virtually walk through Joseph's and others' gardens and see landrace breeding in action. Of course the community is great as well. I recommend the course to every gardener. I'm starting into a number of landrace projects this year, and I'm really excited to start developing varieties that will have the characteristics that I want. For years I was wishing for the knowledge needed, to start benefiting from the plants' adaptations to our conditions. I'm going to have the best seeds for my area in a few years!
@@juliadakin9733 I'm working on James White's microbe course now, which of course is a little more work, but worth it. I enjoy learning about microbes and their interactions with plants. However, I'm really looking forward to when you get the indigenous farming course done! I'm sure it will also be fun to record it. I hope you're getting enough funds to do it properly. Marvin
This changed my ideology on heirlooms. Looks like all of my heirloom varieties will be crossed shortly. I’d love to know where I can find the online video content that she referenced
I thought about landrace gardening before I even knew what it was called in my 20's but all the baby boomers told me that I can't do that... that generation was great at telling us we can't do this or that. I was stupid enough to believe them. One thing I am going to do is to leaves some fruits I harvest in the garden and see which ones will reseed and/or germinate themselves. I will still seed save in a traditional sense too but make sure I have plants that can survive without human intervention in my field of genetics.
@@artbyadrienne6812 maybe thats what I need to do. Many places I have lived have had wild carrots or maybe its Queen Annes Lace (or what ever). I wonder if a feral weed that is closely related to the food seed stocks we have would be beneficial if they cross pollenated. Seems to me that it would but I only know what hard working smart folks on the interwebz have told me in their online videos.
@@johnliberty3647 Parts of Queen Ann's Lace are poisonous and Hemlock (deadly) also resembles carrots, so I'd not want those to cross pollinate. I was growing Parsnips and they were going to seed too, but a deep freeze got to them before they matured. Hopefully they'll bloom again in this summer. Hope you have a great garden this year.
@@artbyadrienne6812 I love Parsnips. I believe I have eaten Queen Annes Lace when foraging as a child. No I did not need to forage nor was I trained to, I just did it despite what everyone was telling me. Not sure why I did it, never set out to do it I just instinctively did it. The root actually had a better flavor than carrots but it wasn't as tender. I assumed it was a wild carrot. I also ate the greens. I never had a problem but I also never ate it in large quantities, just a snack. Glad I never tried to fill up that way I might have poisoned myself.
It's very interesting, but when she mentions Hairloms loose genetic potential over the years we must not forget Epigenetics, In the current literatur the Epigenetic factor that produce a change in Plants comes from The microbiome of the seeds, that will completly change a plant.
A lot of time money and effort could be saved among gardeners and farmers if we got together and went back to the ways of the ancestors of the lands. It's wild how isolated and dependent we've become - I use a tractor alone at my place instead of friends family and neighbors all socializing and working together on common land.
There's very little info about this, research costs money, and the big growers don't want people knowing. They will say that all vegetables have the same nutritional content. Good taste means there are more nutrients, it's something that nature has deveolped over thousands of years. Check out 'Plant Volatile Compounds: sensory cues for health and nutritional value' to get started.
Taste correlates to nutrient density. My elephant garlic looks nitrogen deficient. Should I let it struggle to get a more robust cloves for next years planting?
Elephant garlic is replanted by clones, so this a great question that is tricky to answer compared to when a plant produces seeds. You'll have to keep us updated on what you find out.
hahahaha literally right after i left this comment, the first video RUclips recommended was Joseph Lofthouse's video about growing garlic from seed :) he's the author of the book "landrace gardening"
I believe a big part of it is the bacteria the plants culture. Mother plants culture natural bacterias on the inside and outside of seed testas. I know that a good bacteria will actually enable the plant to synthesise what it needs from other materials
Wow. It's the NatureNurture question all over again. Shocking that Brix is not exactly the Gold Standard. *With Yannick traveling the world abt ElectroCulture, many gardeners are working w/ it successfully. To grow seed in this way (essentially w/ Frequency), might restore a portion of its vigor also ?? Modern Horticulture needs to test These Things, not breed for everything but Nutritive Value.
I've been something of a hobby plant breeder for over a decade. Grow with an open mind and practice patience. Plant breeding is a project for a lifetime not a season. Great conversation!
Thank you! What has been your favorite breeding project?
The most fun has probably been working with sarracenias(American pitcher plants) all species in the group hybridize and produce fertile offspring. I crossed for variety and cold hardiness years ago, then let time and winters sort them out. I've got a few hundred survivors that are tough as nails and quite pretty!
I've only started recently on vegetables and your channel is great inspiration. My only hands on experiences with land races is in cannabis and I'm not sure how much that counts since they're all taken out of their environment.
@@nedweeks6964 wow! That is so cool. A Pitcher Plant landrace, very unique.
I’ve recently embarked on hobby plant breeding too. Last year was a bust for my dwarf sunflower project as slugs ate them all, but found a great wild kale for my kale project in a little fishing village called Staines. It was growing out the harbour wall, at the foot of cliffs, just everywhere. It was all flowering, so managed to get seeds 😊
This is absolutely fascinating - thank you. Subscribed! Steve Solomon sent me here.
Oh boy, I suspect Steve Solomon does not agree with my conclusions! (Julia here). But also, welcome! I loved your last corn planting video and I wanted to talk to you about including it in Joseph Lofthouse's online course. Plus other fun stuff :)
Can we get a youtube collaboration? 😁
David the good sent me here.
@@lacklusterami He pointed me in this general direction.
@@landracegardening5631 That's an interesting comment, would you be willing to share why you believe this to be true? Solomon is cool, read some of his work and definitely benefited from the knowledge. I just discovered this channel and am devouring the content. I think you deserve many more subscribers so I'm sharing some of your videos with multiple people.
I can't tell you how happy I am that I came across this channel and this topic. I have kept my seeds but then I was scared to replant because of the issues that you were referring to but this year I have been doing some winter sowing and I have decided to go ahead and plant those seeds and give this a shot I would love to be able to do all of this for a living but maybe one day
Wow, I didn't know how I garden had a name... Landrace? I have let things cross and save seeds for years. Sometimes I get things I don't like but most of the time I'm pleasantly surprised. Listening to you I can see I need to be more intentional with selection that I save.
I'm glad you decided to go for it, Julia! The course is so worth it! I really appreciate being able to virtually walk through Joseph's and others' gardens and see landrace breeding in action. Of course the community is great as well. I recommend the course to every gardener. I'm starting into a number of landrace projects this year, and I'm really excited to start developing varieties that will have the characteristics that I want. For years I was wishing for the knowledge needed, to start benefiting from the plants' adaptations to our conditions. I'm going to have the best seeds for my area in a few years!
Thank you for the support! I'm glad you like the course. Next course is shaping up to take place in Oaxaca.
@@juliadakin9733 I'm working on James White's microbe course now, which of course is a little more work, but worth it. I enjoy learning about microbes and their interactions with plants. However, I'm really looking forward to when you get the indigenous farming course done! I'm sure it will also be fun to record it. I hope you're getting enough funds to do it properly. Marvin
Thank you both for this.
Great job getting the word out!
This changed my ideology on heirlooms. Looks like all of my heirloom varieties will be crossed shortly. I’d love to know where I can find the online video content that she referenced
Hello Travis, that's great to hear. You can find the content at ModernLandraces.com
I thought about landrace gardening before I even knew what it was called in my 20's but all the baby boomers told me that I can't do that... that generation was great at telling us we can't do this or that. I was stupid enough to believe them.
One thing I am going to do is to leaves some fruits I harvest in the garden and see which ones will reseed and/or germinate themselves. I will still seed save in a traditional sense too but make sure I have plants that can survive without human intervention in my field of genetics.
I had trouble getting carrots to grow, but when I left some to go to seed they now grow like weeds. 🥕🥕👩🌾
@@artbyadrienne6812 maybe thats what I need to do. Many places I have lived have had wild carrots or maybe its Queen Annes Lace (or what ever). I wonder if a feral weed that is closely related to the food seed stocks we have would be beneficial if they cross pollenated. Seems to me that it would but I only know what hard working smart folks on the interwebz have told me in their online videos.
@@johnliberty3647 Parts of Queen Ann's Lace are poisonous and Hemlock (deadly) also resembles carrots, so I'd not want those to cross pollinate. I was growing Parsnips and they were going to seed too, but a deep freeze got to them before they matured. Hopefully they'll bloom again in this summer. Hope you have a great garden this year.
@@artbyadrienne6812 I love Parsnips. I believe I have eaten Queen Annes Lace when foraging as a child. No I did not need to forage nor was I trained to, I just did it despite what everyone was telling me. Not sure why I did it, never set out to do it I just instinctively did it. The root actually had a better flavor than carrots but it wasn't as tender. I assumed it was a wild carrot. I also ate the greens. I never had a problem but I also never ate it in large quantities, just a snack. Glad I never tried to fill up that way I might have poisoned myself.
Julia, you are a beautiful person for what you do, thank you for having brought this out to the world! May you have a wonderfull growthfull season 💚
Thanks for your support!
It's very interesting, but when she mentions Hairloms loose genetic potential over the years we must not forget Epigenetics, In the current literatur the Epigenetic factor that produce a change in Plants comes from The microbiome of the seeds, that will completly change a plant.
I get it, good to see others think the same way.
A lot of time money and effort could be saved among gardeners and farmers if we got together and went back to the ways of the ancestors of the lands. It's wild how isolated and dependent we've become - I use a tractor alone at my place instead of friends family and neighbors all socializing and working together on common land.
I am curious about the nutrition content of different varieties of fruits and veggies, and there is no good information online about it.
There's very little info about this, research costs money, and the big growers don't want people knowing. They will say that all vegetables have the same nutritional content.
Good taste means there are more nutrients, it's something that nature has deveolped over thousands of years. Check out 'Plant Volatile Compounds: sensory cues for health and nutritional value' to get started.
This is gold
Is there a website
Taste correlates to nutrient density. My elephant garlic looks nitrogen deficient. Should I let it struggle to get a more robust cloves for next years planting?
Elephant garlic is replanted by clones, so this a great question that is tricky to answer compared to when a plant produces seeds. You'll have to keep us updated on what you find out.
surely garlic can be allowed to go to seed as well. it's all about the seed
hahahaha literally right after i left this comment, the first video RUclips recommended was Joseph Lofthouse's video about growing garlic from seed :) he's the author of the book "landrace gardening"
It all makes sense now. I growing a landrace garden. This will help everyone grow with less.
Thanks Marian! You should join the online course, there is a lot more there. ModernLandraces.com
I believe a big part of it is the bacteria the plants culture. Mother plants culture natural bacterias on the inside and outside of seed testas. I know that a good bacteria will actually enable the plant to synthesise what it needs from other materials
Wow. It's the NatureNurture question all over again. Shocking that Brix is not exactly the Gold Standard. *With Yannick traveling the world abt ElectroCulture, many gardeners are working w/ it successfully. To grow seed in this way (essentially w/ Frequency), might restore a portion of its vigor also ?? Modern Horticulture needs to test These Things, not breed for everything but Nutritive Value.
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Modern fruit and vegetable breeding has the objective of making hard rock candy; indestructible and mostly of sugar.