Eureka! I'm 63 and what you describe is EXACTLY what I have experienced since being made redundant at 58. You and all those making comments in a similar situation have made me feel so much better about myself. Thankyou.
Ageism is rife in the UK when it comes to employment. It’s crazy. People over 50 don’t get pregnant, don’t have child care issues and don’t have distractions that the younger generation have. I’d also say that we take less sick time, and are more reliable.
You say ageism is rife and then go on to make a series of negative assumptions based on age... So yeah, I guess people such as yourself do think people of a certain age take more sick leave, are more likely to take maternity/paterinity leave, aren't as reliable or just have general distractions.
Yeah exactly and full of wisdom us fifty plus can relate to younger people and mature people we're younger people can't I noticed the corporate world is the same they will not pay you what you deserve when they can pay a kid leaving uni min wage
Yes, its partly an age thing. If you've got years of experience as well as good qualifications especially if you kept up to date on training then that means they have to pay you a good wage to match it. So 18 to 30 year olds are more likely go accept a lower wage just to get their foot in the door. Most employers don't want to pay the full back mate. Nowadays, you'd be lucky to get a refusal letter/email, they just don't bother to reply. Some employers won't even give you a chance once they see your age. But keep going, maybe you should look at a completely different career, that could be why you can't find a job in your current field of work. Think outside the box, maybe a pastime hobby could end up paying you instead and you'll enjoy it.
I'm 52, have a degree, but burnt out. Quit my engineering job, got a part-time job as a sandwich-maker, work only mornings, for British forces, very proud to help our boys! I don't need big money, I've got everything I need.
In my thirties, if I didn’t have a mortgage to pay (I’m assuming you don’t have a mortgage to pay or it’s very little!). I would work part time if I could!
@IngramSnake I've worked in the Falkland Islands for 20 years, tax-free. You can do the same. You'll be mortgage-free in 5 years and have some savings. There is a catch though: you have to leave the comfort of your home and live practically without shops. Can you cope with that for 5 years?
Workplaces have become so reactive (build it quick and slap bandaids on it when it breaks, or worse) experience isn't as valuable as what it used to be.
Same in Lithuania. I read many job descriptions that are just against all logics. I.E. • can be a just graduate (and the following point after) • at least 2 years of experience in that field
Most employers don't like people over the age of 55 because we are harder to bully ,we are usually more financial independence and will not put up with there bull sh* t. They feel threated by are experience and confidence.
Maybe for some. Try to look from the perspective of an employer. Some jobs maybe just to hard on a 55 year old. Also being overqualified for the job you are wanting. They think you will be bored and we'll just move on to another job Normally your CV will have multiple different jobs that you've done over the years. This gives the impression that you're not someone who sticks around. So they feel that if they train you, you will only be around for a couple of years and then move on which this is then time and money wasted for a company. It is illegal for a company to discriminate on age. But not so to pick the best candidate. Out of curiosity I bet your CVs are extensive. In the end it's more do you fit into the culture of the company as well as can you do the job.
Yes employers will not admit it but they do not like to employ over 55’s. It is about the culture more than the job often especially if younger more insecure colleagues might feel threatened or less capable
I was in the U.K. corporate world until I suffered burn out at 39 and was sacked. Classic blessing in disguise. Changed my life 180, and now run my own business in central Europe.
Corporate burn out is very really and as corps have got a tighter and tighter on people and ever increasing unrealistic demands things are now going sideways where large sections of people are basically on a "go slow". Its part of the reason why teh western work economic situation is stagnant and generally in decline
I hear you mate. Here in Sydney, I was made redundant in Sept 2023. Turned 50 in January. It's now been 10 months actively looking. It's enough to drive one to despair.
I am 58 ,female and working for Uber Eats and Just Eat..better than being employed with a boss breathing down my neck! If I want to stop fir a coffee, go off shopping, have a day off, i can do all that under my terms! No interviews. Yes there is no grand job title to it but I have FREEDOM and I am employed, I get by financially .. having a massive income is nothing compared to my freedom...Im not proud. Good luck anyways.
I'm the same age as you and last year I gave up my job in a college to become a taxi driver. I got fed up with the responsibility and continual training for minimum wage plus lack of respect from management. I'm now self employed and earning much more even though I only work 3 hours per day.
Well done, do you deliver from your car, scooter or ebike ? The passport office didn't transfer my right to work stamp when I renewed my Kiwi passport over here. When that's sorted I'm thinking of doing the same
I sold my engineering business in 2005 after 30 years of running it. Decided after a short while that I needed something to do ater all my other interests and hobbies. Decided it was not worth applying for a job because I only wanted to do two or three days a week. I approached a number of local companies offering to do holiday and sickness cover for them. Had some business cards printed and left these. Within a few days I had a phone call asking if I could do a stand in for a week while one of their machine operators was on holiday. That week went very well, I charged by the hour at a rate that was high enough to make it worthwhile to me. Within a short while I had more work coming than I wanted from half a dozen companies, and could easily have done a full six day week, and found myself having to turn work away . I was also 55 at that time. We may get old but we have experience that cannot be matched by young people.
cajonkers!thirty years in showbusiness!you should have been sipping tequila on a beach in Tahiti chatting to Jeff bezos over the phone,threatening to buy him out from Amazon if he didn't pull his socks up!
No one wants to hear your crazy love success story mate, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE gets that lucky. Not sure how you pulled that little trick off but it's a HR nightmare and insurance for you must be through the roof in every place you worked in!
I think you may be one of the very few people who sell a company and would still want to work a job after that. I'm guessing you sold it for 6 figures and made lots from the income of the business, why would you want to work a job and listen to a boss after that?
This really boils my pee. We hired a guy who’s late 50’s in the USA as he had a ton of industry experience and is actively helping osmose that into the juniors. He wanted something useful to do before he retires. It’s not a massively senior role but he has a lot of reverent influence on the people in the team.
That is terrific. I remember that happening to me way back in the 80's in my 20's we had plenty 40 somethings working teaching us in corporate USA. I was taught that you need to make what you cost x 3. Your cost in salary is a 1/3, the cost of operation 1/3, then the the last third is essentially NIBT and profit. Not hard. I worked under financially stressful goals, essentially NYSE: sales, EBIT, and EBITDA...we had to meet weekly financial projections. 100's millions of dollars of portfolio experience and meeting financial targets is the name of the game of life whether its a coffee shop, a bank, a university cost centre, or for profit NYSE entity. For you to harness his experience is a testament to your ethos and his for that matter. Those youngsters will gain knowledge no degree will ever teach you and a work ethic that is priceless. Best of luck!
I am going to give you some hope, l have a small business in Aberdeen and most of the people that have worked for me have been over 50 when they started. Recently l have had a few media interviews about employing older people. I am 64 myself and it scares me. I am willing to meet you and have a chat for your channel. Do not give up.
Likewise - I watched the video but not sure how to provide help and support (apart from commenting here)... I am happy to share what I have been doing maybe chatting with you for your channel...? Maybe thats your new job, interviewing people like a video pod cast and asking them about their jobhunting experience... i have seen many people in the same situation as us on youtube and on linkedin and some people have applied for thousands of jobs and still not getting anything... let me know how we can collectively provide support and I am sure you will get many volunteers - it must be inspiring for you seeing all these great comments against your video.. i have already subscribed and liked... :)
That is so very kind of you. My experience has been outright ghosting. Oh, wait, 1 recruiter did say I had the skills but, my age is a problem. It's sad really. 😢
I expect you knew you would get a few replies Peter! I'm in England, and am looking for work, just to support myself and live a quiet life. Please drop me a line if you think you can help - but do give the channel video poster first pass - he totally deserves a solid chance!
I was feeling old in my late fifties, and suddenly couldn’t face another politically correct team building exercise. So I quit, and started working for the council recycling team, out on the trucks, early start, walking miles emptying bins in every weather. Maybe I’ve lost the plot, because it’s tough and filthy sometimes, but I’m fitter, happier, and more relaxed than I have been in years. I’m not the only one there with a similar story. They’re crying out for drivers. Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it! 😂
Completely agree, I did 30 years in Sales and Management, I now work in a factory, it’s not easy but no more sales targets, no more difficult phone calls, no dealing with the public, no hassle or problems out of work hours, I may have dumbed down I’m not sure but I’d never ever go back.
PS yes I’m 52 and applied for hundreds of jobs after being made redundant and mainly heard absolutely nothing back at all, I used to joke I might as well bin my cv and 30 year work history and say I’m an armed robber just out of prison, I couldn’t have had a worse response to my applications.
I lost my job at 50, and it's practically impossible to find work. I've had the unfortunate experience of being unemployed a few times over 35 years. Had my CV updated, applied to over 300 jobs, with 3 interviews, that I drove 150 miles to get to, and got ghosted by all 3! I'm a qualified engineer, with a city & guilds, but companies no longer want experience, but young pretty kids, with 100 college degrees. I've been asked my age 3 times, by agencies and they all ghosted me after that. A huge percentage of jobs advertised are fake roles. Indeed is full of them.
They certainly DO NOT want young kids with degrees for jobs. That demographic struggle the most to land anything. It’s the the job market - we have entered a post Covid silent depression.
After the 2008 economic crash, I lasted through two years of layoffs before my number came up and I lost my job at 40. I couldn't get any response from employers, so I was forced to "hire" myself and go freelance. It's been 15 years now, and I can't believe I'm still able to make a go of it. Even so, it barely pays the monthly bills and contributes nothing to my future or getting ahead. The last time I applied for jobs was about a year ago. As with you, I applied to over 300 jobs in 24 months. I got four responses. It's beyond humiliating being interviewed by people who aren't even 30-years-old who don't know nearly as much about my work and industry as I do. Worse yet, one of those four jobs included two interviews, a written test, and a third interview with SEVEN people, including the CEO, that lasted two hours...and I still didn't get the job. The whole job search process is absolutely soul-crushing, and it's SO different now than it was 30 years ago. Forget about first interview-second interview-job offer. NO ONE actually reviews your resume when first submitted now. It's passed through artificial intelligence (AI) and algorithm systems searching for "keywords" after which you'll get a "relevance" score. IF your score is high enough, you'll get a phone interview with a professional screener who doesn't even work for the company you applied to but was contracted by them. IF you make it past the AI filter and the screener, only THEN will you get your first interview with someone who actually works for the company. What a world we live in.
Agencies are staffed by "kids" with useless degrees, who all bought into the idea that anyone without was in fact a pleb. I did C&G and BTEC in electronic engineering at a time where industry wanted those qualifications, industry still wants them, but the agencies control access to the jobs and THEY want degrees. I see it from the other side, where I work we can't get experienced engineers, the agencies just send us graduates, but I know the market is full of experienced engineers whoa re just getting filtered out because they don't have a degree and the agencies think that people can't learn new skills.
Companies dont realise that 60 is the new 40. No child care, loads of experience strong work ethic, committed focused and serious bout life. May be a few years left in us but less sick leave and not seeking to climb the ladder of success. We seek to be active and live well.
Ive hot a new colleague, she just turned 60. I see signs of memory issues, so I checked her every work. Moving forward, should I tell my manager of her age-relate issue or not. Dilemma.
Am 58yo been self employed since 2003 currently being a handyman since 2012 full time. Love it. I struggled to find work at 46. So my wife said "why don't you become a handyman " never looked back. Love the job and no boss to argue with...
@fulconerra3055 Yes I do. To make the same pay that I had when employed only takes me 20% of the same time... so I don't work too hard and have plenty of leisure time. However because I love what I do I don't really work now...
"I, Daniel Blake" I cried when I saw that film. It´s about a man who lose his job and can´t find a new one. The authorities treated him so badly. It´s the same in Sweden.I took out some of my pension when I was 56 because of the situation with work. I have to live frugally but it´s worth it. I didn´t want to ask for job anymore and feel like nobody.
I understand what you are saying,sad to say the film 'I,Daniel Blake' is realistic.I have worked various jobs over the year's and i have seen people being treated bad but alot of people lack the confidence to take a chance and try to find an alternative job or way out of their situation.I am also starting to take some pension money early(i am 58 ) so i do not have take poor paid jobs.I am a contractor so i only work if the pay is good and the company treats me with respect otherwise i rather not work at all!I am too old now to put up with idiot manager's or other idiot's in a workplace!
I know how you feel ! Made redundant in 2007 after 25 years working all over the world then you are not worth a job anywhere??? Some guy gave me an interview & told me "Don't like working with old folks? Did the same as you!
I was interviewed for my story as a single parent, the rise of single parents having to do whatever to get by while society looks on and judges you it would shock most people if they knew how bad society has gotten let me tell you there was no help for me when I needed it, it's all smoke and mirrors uk is finished doesn't matter if you stay in devolved areas the problems exists
Im in the same position. 52 years old Head of Finance last role. 35 years experience. Went for an interview and my effective manager had 6 years Finance experience. He probably saw me as a threat.
IN OTHER WORDS...GET YOUR PRESUMED MASON FRIENDS TO BAIL YOU OUT OF A HOLE, THAT YOU'RE UNABLE TO DO FOR YOURSELF. MASONS HELP THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES, IT IS NOT A RESCUE SERVICE FOR SUB OPTIMALS.
I don't even put my date of birth (1973) on my c.v anymore , that gets you past the pink-haired 20-something warthog in H.R who'd see it and hit "delete" straight away . And as for that "over-qualified" excuse , YOU SAW MY C.V !! You knew I was "over-qualified" and still invited me here knowing you were going to turn me down , cheers for wasting both our time !!
@@johnnyNobCheese They have been indocrinated to see us White men as having 'privelage' aka already rich enough to not need a job. See we White men tick no boxes.
But you hit the equality box. So at least they can say 'look we don't have discrimination against age' as we interviewed a man over 50. Complete of everybody's time.
I worked as a recruiter for 25 years, mostly in the UK. Unfortunately ageism is a problem, it’s often unspoken but it’s real. There comes a point where a 35-45 year old becomes more appealing than those who are 55-65. I’m now also in the same position as you as I am a similar age to you. It’s not a CV issue, it’s age!
@@sherimillman53 Nothing, it is like this for ages. You just have to prepare that it will happen to you as well. Even at the age of 25 you should know that this point will come to you.
Ageism is rife here in Australia as well, I’m an unemployed 55 year old man with close to 30 years in the finance industry, but here in Australia the ageism starts when your 40. Although it’s illegal to discriminate to against older workers, laws are only as good as they are enforced, and they are not enforced at all.
If no-one is willing to GIVE you a job, ....MAKE A JOB! Self employment, even if it'd only making a hobby your job, is MUCH BETTER than grovelling for employment for someone just FILLING THE POST! It may not pay what you're used to, but the SATISFACTION of doing something you enjoy, AND managing a better work/life balance, is something you will never understand until you DO IT! YOU'RE NEVER TOO OLD TO START AGAIN! My brother just put the family business in mothballs, and at FIFTY, started training to be a nurse! IT CAN BE DONE! ....You just have to be/think like an "ALPHA"!
The most simple kinds of self-employment measure up very well to even high-mid tier "regular" jobs. There is a lot of unpleasant office stuff that can be sidestepped, a lot of unwanted pressures and responsibility you don't have to take on. 100% agree.
I worked for myself in my 30s for ten years. Toughest ten years of my life. Forget about making any money for year 1 and 2. Don't mean to rain on the parade but self-employment is hard - if you get it right it is wonderful but it is a 24/7/365 job for the first few years.
How would the algorithm know your age if you don't put it on your CV? Remove dates on education and don't list your first roles, only the last 10 years.
@jamessmith1652 That's true to a point. The problem then is when they meet you at interview they get to see you and work out roughly your age. It's at that point any 'possible' ageism will kick in.
And yesterday I heard on the news that Liz Truss is advocating for us to work until we're 80!!! We can't even get offered a job in our 50s, it seems from reading about people's experience in the comment section. Dream on Liz Truss!
Truss and her ilk want us in the fields for minimum wage until we drop dead, the money the Government saves in paying the farmers will be made back by not being alive to pick up a pension.
I say we should NEVER stop working even volunteer work will keep you sane and get you out and about with people. We are social creatures. Its in your DNA.
I’ve been in a similar situation at the same age. Employers really don’t want to employ our age group. This is born out when they ask ridiculous questions like “what are your ambitions?”. Well at 60, my ambition is to live long enough to retire.
It's not just us oldies (I'm 57), but my daughter too who is 18 is finding it very hard to get a job. I blame agencies such as 'Indeed' for being over archaic, poorly managed and often they advertise vacancies that have long shut.
Agencies, and agents, are a huge part of the issue. They are like real estate agents - they have somehow defined a function in their particular sector and now dominate. The result is high turnover and low loyalty. Easy for businesses to "prove" they've used some methodology in their hiring process, but they are missing a key element - personability.
Yes mate. I'm Jeff from Ireland. I was laid off last year in June. I turn 56 soon. I have applied for 2842 jobs online through direct emailing and recruitment companies. I'm a father of 3 children. Worked in Engineering, Project management and Operations management. I've had a few very positive interviews and honestly thought I had the jobs. But on 2 occasions I received a call from the HR person who was very upset with the companies choice not to employ me. They agreed I gave a great presentation and informative interview but the managers interviewing felt that I was more experienced than them and so didn't want me around the directors. Next week after many many months of struggling and exams I will be self employed as a Taxi man. Never thought I would ever move from Corporate big business to end up being a Taxi man. I will need to work until I'm at least 75 to clear the mortgage. There is 100% an issue with my age and experience so just gave up on looking and from now on ill only answer to myself. Best wishes to all on here.
Best of luck from a fellow Irishman 👍 Is there much up front cost to becoming a taxi man. I've thought about becoming one for a long time, I was a self employed delivery driver and loved the self employed aspect of it
People could consider going self-employed. It's humble, but there is always a demand for lawn mowing, window, house cleaning, dog walking, and being a helping hand to the elderly. Doesn't take a huge amount of investment, quick and easy to learn the basic skills, good rate of pay, choose own hours, don't have to dress up, choose each job, work at a reasonable pace, etc. Hope this helps.
Well we have an aging population and within that, there is a huge demand for a lot of the jobs you mentioned. I’m disabled now and despite having carers coming in, I employ a cleaner and two dog walkers and by word of mouth too.
Great comment, totally agree. I am 60 , self employed and wouldn't have it any other way. I couldn't and wouldn't take any bullshit from some Thatcherite jobsworth half my age. Anyone who has practical skills should be fine, I build furniture and do general repairs etc. Most people under 40 , male and female don't even know what a screwdriver is, unbelievable but true. Good luck people there are openings out there.
Why is being self-employed 'humble'? For many people having their own business is a massive lifetime goal. Being self-employed is the complete opposite of humble, it's being bolshy and proactive and making your own way in the world.
I went through the same pain, once I got into my 50's (I'm now 55) I just kept getting job rejections and felt so worthless. I'm professionally trained in IT and considered cross training into Development and Cybersecurity, but that would take 2 years of experience to really be considered and learning new things at 55 isn't always an easy thing. Anyway, many bus companies in and around Manchester are looking to train bus drivers, so I did a bus drivers licence at Stagecoach in Manchester and started driving buses. A few months later I was offered a software testing role and grabbed it with both hands. Be willing to do other jobs outside of your comfort zone, still an honest wage, until you strike oil with an accounting opportunity.
You seem like a natural on camera! You're engaging, trustworthy, and entertaining. I really enjoyed this video. It would be great to see you expand your channel and share your accounting expertise. Maybe you could do videos explaining specific accounting concepts or talking about the interesting (or not-so-interesting) sides of the field. This could be a great way to build a following and even turn RUclips into an income stream.
You're not too old. You're a well-spoken and seemingly intelligent person that has lots to contribute. Contact your local adult learning service - they have opportunites for all and are on your side.
@starbarhippo1989 Not at all. People need to be made aware of avenues of help available to them. There are lots of good jobs - the door is firmly shut for those who need them the most.
Yes, job hunting over 50 can be incredibly challenging. My husband is 53 and was a high earner, but he hasn't been able to find a contract since 2022. He had to pivot and has now converted to trading. He was also a contractor. At 51, I've faced similar difficulties securing a contract and often encounter the issue of being overqualified, so I am now freelancing. We're in the UK too, and even our next-door neighbors and friends are in the same situation, so you’re not alone. Thank you for sharing this x Good luck
@@scottlazar6376 I had a lot of experience with me being a hgv mechanic but only had a class 2 license and never drove class 1 on the road. I took my class 1 three yrs ago at the age of 50 but did take few yrs of driving them including writing a car of before I was confident
I'm 57. I left my last job of nearly twenty-five years and went to university to do a law degree. After failing to find any useful employment (over qualified, apparently!), I ended up working in a cheese factory doing a back-breaking job. I lasted five days. I stopped for a moment to stretch my back and was yelled at by a young Polish guy. I took my work coat off, handed it to him and left. All I could find was crap agency work; minimum wage, back-breaking work, no dignity or respect and certainly no job satisfaction. I spent a career saving lives and decided to diversify to continue helping others. I took my occupational pension early and scrape by with my dog. However, high cost of living is making that much harder now, so I am looking for a part time job to make ends meet. I certainly don't mention the law degree... especially the part where I concentrated on employment law.
@@WillyJunior To become a solicitor I would need to complete the modern equivalent of the LPC (Masters) and then find a contract with a law firm. Jobs in law are highly competitive and sought after. I am happy where I live. To stand a chance I would have to be prepared to relocate. Many law firms ask that paralegals (these were once unqualified roles and paralegals are far cheaper than fully qualified solicitors) to have a good law degree AND an LPC. When I mention the law degree in any application or CV, I often hear that I am over qualified? During the coughdemic I reapplied for a position with my old employer. They would rather put lower qualified, and therefor less expensive, bums on seats. A recently qualified student paramedic is far less expensive than a qualified and experienced paramedic. I later learned they were also using student medics from the MOD. They often worked with us on placement to gain knowledge and experience. That was/is great news for the Trusts. Free labour... as these people were being paid by someone else. Ambulance services were keen to see old lags like me leave. There are a plethora of young student paramedics that would do the job for far less money and when they are burned out and leave, there will always be more to fill the seats. It won't be long before there will be very few 'experienced' paramedics left. I think the same thing happened in teaching.
@@akoola7853thank you for your years helping people in need, a very stressful job mentally, and physically, I have learnt to late in life, sadly, work smarter not harder, iv seen lots of chancers, bluffers,and bone idle relatives of staff members promoted, and the willing horses bearing the weight.
Your comment really struck a chord with me! I also did a law degree in middle age. I even graduated with a first class honours after putting massive efforts into my revision. I assumed that it would act as a golden ticket and would open all kinds of doors for me. How wrong I was. It was more of a poison chalice (perhaps employers felt intimidated by it?!) so I ended up omitting it from my CV and I've had to settle for menial, low paid work ever since. I feel deeply embittered that I was never able to pursue a career in law because I couldn't afford the fees for the LPC or BPC, especially when I help friends out with their legal issues and they say "you would have made a great lawyer"!
i agree i talked to an old man who worked in B&Q and he got messed about with what hour's he can work each week but he was in semi-retiremnet so he didn't care,i would not let manager's treat me like that,i am a contractor so i expect to be treated with respect otherwise i don't take a contract job!I don't like manager's in general because most of them are useless and are yes sir men!
Can you drive? Have you looked at Trade Plate driving? It’s basically delivering cars for the motor trade and then making your way home. They wouldn’t hire me because I’m under 55, so if you’re of the age, you might be in with a shot? I’ve seen trade plate adverts stating they only hire 55+!
I had always done my own DIY. At 55 I took a course in painting and decorating. Inundated with work. Chose what i wanted to do part time. Did 2-3 days a week and it left me with time for me. Always courses in tiling, joinery,etc and you will find yourself very much in demand.
I'm a 51 year old female. Renovated my last 2 properties, trained in painting and decorating and done my level 2 plumbing. Have a host of DIY skills now, I also have worked painting new build in the past. Currently I'm renovating my mothers house and making bathroom sink units from antique furniture and fitting them with sinks. I have applied for a few maintenance jobs and decorating jobs in the past and never heard back from them. Instead I started doing painting, decorating and small DIY jobs privately. However now prefer making sink units to sell. Do you work for yourself or are you employed?
@@jonnygti Yes it was self employed. I dont do it now, I'm fully retired, but I was never short of work. I advertised to start with then after 12 months it was recommendations and people comeing back so I didnt need to advertise any more.
Hey there, I'm a uker in the US atm. Just wanted to say don't give up on the job hunt, and take care of your health as you navigate this journey. There is absolutely age discrimination, even though governments around the developed world have introduced laws to prevent it, sadly, it will still happen. I also feel that if there are younger viewers watching this video, I hope they read this comment. It is so important that people invest in their future. Have a job, try to build up an emergency fund (1-6 months salary) and then put as much money as you can into an ISA or in the US, an IRA. It is SO important the younger generation learn to invest for their future. There is no guarantee that a pension will be claimable when you read retirement (where the retirement age keeps going up) and no guarantee that social security will be around (for those in the US). We also sadly can't work forever. No matter how many laws are passed, companies always want to hire younger (cheaper?) labour. Hope you find a job soon buddy.
I've been a contractor for many years too and very familiar with that 'oldest person in the room' feeling... the disturbing thing is it's not the younger members of these teams that harbour and exude the ageist prejudices... it's the f**in senior members and leadership team who treat you the worst
I'm 55 and been out of work since 2020. I've given up looking and live on UC and food banks. It's ok, my mortgage is paid and just have a very simple life now. Ageism is real.
Regarding UC. I said in an earlier comment my brother was on UC and this flipping journal thing - write to it or we take your benefit away. From what I could see the case workers didn't have time to read and reply / be helpful - it is difficult to blame them and surely the AI / data analysis can check / verify the extent of ageism? Someone in DWP eun some Adobe Analytics and make a policy to address this ageism if found to be true?
@@stephenhookings1985 ive been on and off universal credit over the last 4 years and whenever there is a voluntary (but uts really compulsory) group thing involving long term unemployed invariably its men over 50. When i did find a job and got quickly dismissed from it i was asked by my job search advisor if i felt i was discriminated by age as i was given a flimsy reason for ending my contract. Ironically i dont think it was down to age (though i was one of a few old people working there)
@@Dave-wh3hw in the UK we don't pay benefit temporarily, we pay as long as needed...but you can get sanctioned where they can reduce or simply not pay you for up to 3 months iirc if you do anything to convince them you're not looking for work
Trades can get any jobs no matter what age. It’s a supply and demand issue. My grandfather was a carpenter and joiner. He could make anything. Unfortunately in his time they were paid a pittance. He begged me to go to university. I’m sorry I took his advice.
Hi, I'm 52 and was an Apple engineer for 32years. Was because for woke reasons I'm no longer wanted and the company has changed its repair policy. I've been unemployed for 2years and have now resulted in becoming a taxi driver which in itself took 8months to do all the couses. The world is so crazy and people over 50 are now finished. Companies want younger people, and apparently I'm over qualified or I've had it to good for to long.... Meaning I'm not Gay, Female, I'm white and I have no disabilities all of which I can't or won't change to get a job. Good luck with the new world order...
I’m a 44 year old solicitor so I expect a similar experience in the coming years. Keep trying. I would find you easy to work with. You have a good personality and someone will snap you up.
I got a job 9 months ago today exactly working in a sandwich factory, I utterly hated it, hardly anyone speaks English and it’s dirty and noisy. I am 54 and have been trying relentlessly to find something else which I did this week, I gave up my shit job yesterday and I start at another in customer service next week.Just take a job mate, when you are skint enough you will…. There is no way you can pick and choose what you want to do over 50.
Ageism is a real thing. You are not too old with 55 years old, but to a lot of despicable companies think you are. Take care of your mental health, take it easy and good luck with job hunting!!
I feel your pain. My brother is in a similar situation in Swindon. The national news is that there are is a need for qualified workers and many vacancies but that, at the same time there are millions of people ‘choosing’ not to be part of the workforce. There is something wrong with the official narrative I’m sure. Hope your RUclips channel is successful - you’ve made a great start!🎉
I am 58 and I took early retirement at 55, the last three years have been the best time of my life. I spent 40 years working as a pastry chef and now I’m done. No stress and no financial worries is the way to live. Have a great day 😊
I’m 57. I left school in 1983 with one O level in metal work, and went on to serve an apprenticeship as a fitter, I left that job to be a car salesman in 1988. Since then I can honestly say I’ve never had a career plan, I’ve ducked and dived all my working life and been self employed for the past 30 years. Not blowing my own trumpet but I now own 3 rental properties that give me an income, and I also have a business erecting signs, which is sometimes busy and sometimes not, so I paid to get my hgv license , hiab qualification, and crane slinger and crane supervisor, that’s given me multiple strings to my bow. I’m constantly busy because all my eggs arnt in one basket. I now get offered crane work and driving work on an adhoc basis every week . I think being able to diversify is the key , nobody I do work for ,could care less how old I am, they know I’m dependable and get the job done.
Couldn't agree more, I started my own engineering business aged 25 , in my mid fifties now and my first business goal was to diversify to not be reliant on one sector. I've been contracting on many projects, automotive, aviation, civil, owned a renovation company and off the back of that also have a rental property. After learning and utilising CNC work on various projects, bought my own laser cutters and have a laser cutting facility, have also worked for the entertainment industry, theatre design, fibreglass display work, signage, etc. The more strings to your bow the better, especially as a business, enables you to survive.
They know they can bully younger people who will also accept more work for less pay. If your more mature your likely to stand up for yourself and others.
I got my brother UC recently - seems there is some journal to be completed to prove you are looking for work but no one reads it. Thing is he had terminal cancer - so I managed to get him exempt from completing rhe journal - after a few threatening letters that UNLESS he added to the journal they would take benefit away. He passed away last month - incurable cancer is a terrible illness. Being fit and apparently unemployable but with no financial safety net seems to be nasty too. The kicker - he was too young to draw on his pensions. I am battling to get the companies to "at their discretion" pass it down to his grandson.
It's a bit of a mess. I'm on UC but have found that most people in the DWP I have had to deal with are ok. Maybe I've been lucky. Most seem to understand it's an absolute shitstorm for finding work
@@stephenhookings1985the journal I guess is rarely looked at but I would not be surprised if you didn't fill something in you'd be sanctioned...rightly so. If you're not making effort to look for work expect the DWP to come down on you
I’m in the opposite position, in a job at 55 that pays really well but the company treats you awfully. I raised a grievance after it became untenable which is going to tribunal after a sham investigation. I know all I will get now is crap till I retire , no training or progression, or I can leave , earn half as much if I am lucky enough to get a job. I have little pension, house nearly paid which I have considered selling so I can leave but the money would run out before I’m getting our lousy state pension. I feel trapped in a job I hate but see no way out even though I try to convince myself I’m lucky to have a well paying job . Once in your 40s you’re not wanted , in your 50s you are positively discriminated against . At least your profession will have allowed you to earn a decent amount for many years and have some options whereas many low skilled are skipping meals to pay rent.
Yes mate. I've had it all too. 22 years as an IT consultant, applying for jobs and attending interviews is expensive, especially travelling from the South West (Cornwall, the jobs desert). I've been told the same thing, great experience blah blah, you fulfill all of the requirements but you don't fit into our "workplace demographic". It's always a recruitment agency, never the actual company, and always a foreigner who is feeding back to the government that we have to import my skills from their countries. I've turned my back on IT, and now work in retail, (a boat chandlers), minimum wage and zero future/prospects/life or job satisfaction. Fed up to my back teeth of being discriminated against in both racial and ageist terms by people and organisations that aren't even domiciled in the UK for tax reasons. I suspect it's a top down instruction, much reinforced by the advent of Smarmer, that we are seen as the Brexiteers and are thus to be disappeared in terms of opportunity and income. I'm aware of several instances where people of immense value and skill have had to train groups of foreigners in their jobs, which are then exported and the English employees dumped, with subsequent loss of income, housing repossession and relationship/family breakdown. As ever, it's usually men, who usually tend not to speak out, but there is an undercurrent of simmering resentment and fury in the UK which is never far from the surface, and when it finally does come out it will bring this government down.
Wondered when I’d see it’s all the foreigners fault.. grow up & wake up. Not a smart man @fadetogrey to like such a comment. Do you really want employing?
Im 57 and work as a lecturer in engineering. I'm absolutely certain that if I lost my job now I would never get another in the same field. I have applied for many similar jobs at other institutions and don't even get a thanks but no thanks reply. It seems to me that HR employ staff based on equality and diversity but conveniently forget about ageism. We have not employed a single white over 50 male as long as I can remember. Something needs to be done about this. Well spotted.
@@bertielikesbeeryeah. People think if u are black u just walk in. 😂. I lost a job in September last year. Took me 5 months and lots of applications to get another job ...and the new job pays way way less.
This video almost brought me to tears! The job market is not the best at the moment, have you thought of looking at hospitality, health or transport. They may not be the best but the seem to be hiring all ages.
I'm in my mid-50s, and have decided with another friend who is also above 50, looking to set up a consulting business, so as to get round this ageism nonsense! So, I totally resonate with what you saying in your video.
This is exactly the kind of content I’ve been looking for thank you, likewise as you said, my feed is filed with Americans talking about the job market but none of uk, thank you for uploading, subscribed
This does not surprise me and it’s clear that “ageism” is real …. No dressing it up + am satisfied that there is indeed a growing problem . Thank you for your refreshing and honest presentation and let’s know how you get on. 👋👍
The job market is bad. I'm an IT Software developer with decades of experience. The business I was working for was destroyed by the lockdown back in 2020. The "2 weeks to flatten the curve" turned into 2 years. Made redundant. I thought I'd secured a role back in Dec 2023...had 3 interviews; right down to discussing with HR my salary etc. Only to be told in mid January 2024 that recruitment was being frozen and the role was no longer being offered. Must've applied for hundreds of jobs since then....most I think are just "Ghost" jobs put out by recruitment agencies to give the impression that they have lots of jobs on offer. It is very tough.
I’ve worked in the recruitment industry for 14 years. Here are some things to try: 1. Put as many key words as you can on your CV. Most recruiters are lazy and hitting ctrl f. 2. Fully utilise LinkedIn. 90% of recruitment is done there now. 3. Don’t put your age on the CV. Be honest if they ask but just try and get the meeting first. 4. Don’t make the CV too long. 2 pages max. Long CVs KILL your chances of an interview. 5. Leverage your network and try and get intros through people who know you.
6. leave off any experience more than 10 years in the past, chances are it is out of date anyway. Who cares if you developed the original Multics system? Or worked with Tommy Flowers?
LinkedIn is useless for a lot of sectors moreover in many jobs, you have to fill out very long application forms listing everything from your exact date of birth to your complete job history + your graduation dates and if you lie and are caught, you can lose your job/not be hired. If you don't fill out the info on the application form, you can't save the form and enter your application. Your advice is outdated or works only for some sectors.
I hear you my friend. I worked very consistently as an IT contractor from 1997 until November 2022. I didn't get a job from then until August 2023 and things were very hard. It wasn't a high paying job and I had to sell all of my personal items to survive. I didn't last long in the job, finishing at the end of November 23. I got a new job at the end of February 24 and was due to start the beginning of April. The time during the long non working period, I didn't realise but I caught Long COVID. This culminated in me ending up in hospital over Easter 24 with pneumonia. So I went from being a healthy, fit man who exercised regularly to a wreck physically and mentally. I would say to you from my perspective to go out and walk every day. The damage of sitting in your home and looking for a job can damage you mentally first and then physically. Stay strong in your mind and keep an open attitude to trying something else from a work perspective because you have transferable skills and maybe try some side hustles from the internet. I have started my new job and I am grateful to God for this opportunity. Good luck and don't give up.
I had to give up teaching when I was 53 after 30 years in education, nearly 20 of them as a headteacher, resulted in overwhelming stress, anxiety and burnout. I drove a delivery van for Sainsbury’s, then moved up to 7.5 tonne lorries, then got a class 2 HGV licence last year and now drive an 18 tonne lorry delivering palletised goods. It’s not where I saw myself 10 years ago, but I’m fitter and far less stressed than I was, and probably earn as much as many teachers with far less hassle. Get and stay fit, invest in yourself, retrain for a job where there are shortages regionally, then do your best and work hard. Good luck!
My wife is an FE teacher, the stress of the workload is unbelievable. She is on holiday just now but is sat in front of her lap top, as I’m typing this, completing a H & S course.
Dude, I graduated in 1990, in a recession and ended up temping as a drivers mate for Federal Express, sleeping overnight sometimes in the back of a lorry. Even then, I get not even contemplate a PGCE, as I knew teaching was too hard a job for the money, kudos to you for your service
You could maybe put on your CV (as I do), that you’re really into developing the younger folk in the organisation. I’m 53 and just got a new job which I started last week. They always look at that as a positive!! Good luck with the job search mate! Fingers crossed for you!
I applied for a job the other day and got an email back from the recruiter, saying that they had received over 700 CVs for the role. If this is the state of the economy, the sad truth is most of the time your CV isnt even being reviewed
I can 100% believe that. There's something completely rotten about it. How is it possible? Are they including candidates from overseas?? I don't fancy my odds much at 700 to 1
I work in a warehouse doing nights, they will pretty much take anyone regardless of age, no CV required, you just have to work hard & turn up for every shift. If they see you work hard & always turn up they will give you a permanent contract. I have a permanent contract & it would be very hard for them to get rid of me now. The pay is not bad either for what it is. Something like that could be your only option.
I’m a youthful 45 and I was looking to retrain but after doing very minimal research I’ve decided that retraining would be very unwise. I’m thinking of bouncing around employment agencies taking minimum wage/qualification roles until I find something or someone that could possibly notice me and offer something permanent for mutual benefit. Your comment gives me hope.
@@jaysimpson6857 good luck. I think the main problem that a lot of agency work is its stuff like factory, warehouse, kitchen and that's physically demanding...something that f-ed me up in the past I'm not keen to go back to that...I'd rather be poor and unemployed than burnt out again. But that's just me, hope it works for you
Thanks for sharing your story. I have worked in IT for banking systems for over 25 years with a background in AAT, I thought it would be easy to find a new position after having a break for 6 months. I have not had one decent interview. Finding it tough for even basic admin jobs.
You will find a job.I am 61 years old and recently I was hired ,because I am old and the employer had enough of young people who leave the job in 1 year.And this my highest salary I ever had.Dont worry .I am used to rejection after several interviews. Don't hurt so much now.
100% - I am 68 and cannot get a job . Have tried for the last 2 years. I have a great CV, MBA and BSc and all that and corporate career in top blue chip companies, but at this age no one is interested in me. Like you I found it really easy to get interviews mostly through recruiters all to no avail. I've started my own business in renewable energy and organic horticulture and am very busy - hoping it will pay off before I run out of money!! Good luck with your job hunting
Why do you need a job at 68; you are on your state pension now and maybe a small private pension also? No wonder the government keeps putting up the retirement age when some people want to keep on working forever!
I agree, why do you want a job at 68, you should retire and leave jobs for younger people and I agree with the reply above, no wonder the government keep raising retirement age thanks to people like you😡
You’ve answered all your questions eloquently yourself , after 40/45 if you find yourself out of work then forget it or look at casual part time work. The population of this country is well over 100 million but they tell us that it’s close to 70 million which is a lie and contributes to unemployment.
The stats provided by the supermarkets and the sewage companies positively PROVE that the UK population is much nearer 100 million than 70 million. We are disgustingly overcrowded.
Yes Its much worse than we thought ... as they have been misleading us on the quantity of " enrichment " actually living in our country ! They say that there are 65 million people currently living in the UK, but there was an article written in the Independent 20 years ago by the now dead journalist Mike Baker that stated the real population based on food buying figures released to government by major supermarkets actually estimated that the population back then, 20 years ago, was more 80 million ! So i think its fair to say the population of the UK is something more like 120 million now and i guess the same for the rest of Europe, Canada and the US !
As someone younger ~ 40 yr old female working in HR and often interviewing for roles myself, I’ve noticed the job market is bad for all ages. I Interviewed recently for a new role, didn’t get it for being overqualified apparently. In all honesty I think the 3 male interviewers didn’t expect me to answer so well with more knowledge than them probably 😂 they went for someone circa 10 years younger than me, no qualifications and no industry experience, go figure There is something in the comments I’d agree with about older people less being mouldable and it’s those companies you’re best off out of because they only use and abuse people,pay them less and expect them to put up with all sorts of toxic rubbish Something about the world of work has changed and I’ve noticed it myself. People are less happy and I’ve also heard toxic bosses say people with young kids will work harder for their jobs because they “need the money” corporate nonsense
Yeah right. Have you checked the numbers of closures and bakrupcies registered per year? Make one... We are not in the 19th century anymore, where you could just do what ever you wanted with minimum capital. Ever read about theory of capitalist crisis caused by overproduction and falling rates of profit? We are right in the middle of it, so, good luck with your business, you will definetely need one in the upcoming years.
I second this. I'm a test manager and there is simply nothing out there for me. A few roles in the City for which you need relevant experience but that's it. Since 2000 companies have been harvesting Indian staff over to the UK and that has slowly killed the IT market by lowering salaries and destroying the careers of UK nationals in the industry.
If you remember Labour introduced the “skilled worker” visa and a ton of non UK entrants came into the industry and I’ve interviewed a hell of a lot. Mostly their interview ability didn’t match their CV and qualifications. It’s almost like they had someone else sit the exam for them 😉 I had the same experience trying to get a role when I was out of work despite having a ton of experience and qualifications. Out for over a year at one point and nearly lost my house. Salary went down by 2/5ths. Retrained and went down another route paid off mortgage and started building up my pension. Hopefully will stay where I am for a few years.
@@tancreddehauteville764 I worked in Lloyd's Bank IT, their Indian contractor hire programme went full speed ahead in ~2016, they've started bringing loads of them over to the UK. My contract was terminated in 2018.
If you are really desperate to work and have an income, then maybe you need to lower one's sights. I worked in a professional roll for Manchester Airport until I took early retirement during COVID in 2020. I was 55 so luckily got my final salary pension. After a few months I got bored and applied for night jobs in retail, no pressure, no stress. I got a job straight away at Waitrose in Poynton, Cheshire (£15 per hour). I worked with a local charted accountant, who had been screwed over during covid. He had a big house and big bills, but wasn't afraid to get his hands dirty. He left after a few months when he was offered work again in his field. Just get out there and do any job to tied you over! There's only one objective, and that's survival!
Just turned 50, Worked for the same corp business for 18 years now. Given my heart and soul to it, but the futility of it is getting to me. Reading these comments begining to thank my lucky stars. Heid down, keep my mouth shut - work to live!
My daughter aged 54 has struggled for over 3 months to find work. Spent all day applying for anything and everything, through local agencies and online. Prepared to do anything (legal) for minimum wage. No one ever got back to her. Then an agency she was not registered with - don’t know where they got her cv / details, contacted her about a factory job, she went for interview & got job. Turns out she is working on shop floor producing window blinds. She is the only woman amongst young men (early 20s). But guess what? Within a week of starting, she was producing more blinds than any of the young guys who had worked there a good while. MD of company always remarking how she puts them to shame.
@@goodfellarecordz6534 as it turns out, she is. It’s a good company to work for, plenty of overtime and above minimum wage. But she does despair at what she sees in the younger workforce. No commitment to work. Think they are there for a social occasion. No respect for management. Always spent up within a couple of days of being paid upwards of £500 per week. They think nothing of spending £250 on a pair of trainers, then pleading poverty and subbing loans.
@@RachelLancashire as I mentioned, it seems like a good company and they have recognised her productivity rate and implementing a production bonus rate. As production rates stand at the moment, seems like she will benefit financially whilst youngsters will remain on basic.
@rcqc4193 That's good. Hopefully, she will and will get on well in her new job. It's great to know there are some employers out there who recognise potential and reward people who work hard. Irrespective of age.
You are not alone! I'm 64, still got a good few years of contracting as a IT project Manager. Last contract finished in March 2024. The markets are in turmoil, 100 candidates for each role. Dont lose heart. Reach out if you want to talk.
Im 54 been in construction tarmac etc 22 years i feel its time to move on i feel im getting to old for it , imo its a young mans game , i have never had a job interview in my life, i dont know where to start ? Its all changed so much since i was looking for a new job , i wouldn't mind working for the council in the bins recycling etc im a fast walking reasonably fit and able for my age , great channel 👍🏻 new sub
May I discuss this frankly? I'm the same age as you and comparably I spent many years as an IT contractor. For the sake of brevity let's say I started a business a couple of decades ago and made sacrifices which luckily are keeping me in reasonably good work so far. I was interested in your story, but there were a few things in your story which made me raise an eyebrow, and I want to share them constructively: - The first is that you're an accountant, which should supposedly mean you have lots of skills applicable to long-term planning, budgeting, etc... far more than the average person who could have been far more naïve about these things. - About passing equity to children, I don't think it's a realistic plan. You give to your kids the best start you can, to provide for themselves. But if we say you'll be living in your house for another 20 years, I guess your kids may be somewhere around 50 themselves by that time... they shouldn't really need your provision at that time: if anything I'd've thought they should be starting to support you. - And the equity in your house is going to vanish anyway if you need residential care by that stage... the idea of the state paying to keep someone in hugely expensive residential care while they sit on equity to pass on to their children seems a bit crazy to me; and of course it's not how it works even now. - Buying a 2-bedroom semi for £45k in Leeds in 1995: yes, on the face of it you're right - according to the BoE RPI inflation calculator, if housing had risen in step with RPI over that time that house would be £90k today, and it's probably double that in South Parkway today. You were lucky enough to live through better times in general. UK society in this period also probably still benefited more from an exploitative trade relationship with other countries; the British people hadn't continually shafted themselves with their choice of leaders, Brexit, etc; there wasn't the level of inequality between super-dooper-rich getting in that position essentially by syphoning wealth from the rest of the economy; the consequence of society in general paying itself far too much for far too long hadn't properly bitten; and since the pretty devastating oil shock in the 1970s of which you and I were barely cognisant, there'd never been the succession of factors like banking crisis followed by pandemic followed by war in Ukraine. The government didn't save for a rainy day (it sold-off national assets, it squandered North Sea Oil without putting profits into a sovereign wealth fund, etc) and most people lived in the same way; and life expectancy (living in a non-working condition) wasn't so long. - Anyway, is 6 interviews without success such a big surprise? If an average contract position averages 6 interview candidates (which sounds about right) 5 of them are always unsuccessful; in which case you're hardly even below average yet; not considering that you've been called to a high proportion of interviews. And yes, age may be a delta in all the factors... it wouldn't have to be a particularly big factor to be a clinching factor. You have said that you've got on well with interviewers, but that's not the same as presenting some convincing compensating factor of being so much better, faster, more knowledgeable, more reliable, more efficient than the people you're up against. Couldn't it as simple as that? - And maybe, even in accountancy which is more specific to country-regulations than many other jobs, less UK people are needed in these days of better software; remote working (if a UK person can work remotely, someone in a much cheaper part of the world can do their job... and if they're half as efficient but require quarter of the pay......). And of course AI effects are coming down the line. - You talked about there being less older people visible in companies; but also less younger people. And you're concerned (reasonably) about both because one part impacts you, and the other part impacts your kids, I guess. I certainly agree that young people have had the shitty end of the stick for a long time, in many different ways, in many countries. A few things that I offer-up just as suggestions for the 'missing' older people, in addition to what you've suggested yourself... maybe more of them have negotiated work-from-home arrangements and maybe employees are in a better position to do that than contractors; maybe a good proportion of them aren't in this "middle" position but have started enterprises of their own; and maybe... which could explain why middle-aged people are less desirable to recruiters... maybe a good number of them are off work on an NHS waiting list, waiting for treatment. Anyway, I'm wondering a bit, that you haven't talked about shifting the paradigm of your own situation: marketing yourself directly to smaller enterprises, giving training, doing accounts as piece work, or whatever... you know your skills and should know your market better than me. You've only seemed to talk about putting the same coin in the candy machine and expecting to get the same bar of candy delivered. But is it reasonable to suppose it will continue to work like that? You say that you've been used to taking 3 months off for an extended holiday of your own choice here and there; but isn't it just a pendulum that has swung towards the other direction? We often hear of recent low unemployment, but I think that may be something of an illusion: maybe because many people have taken themselves out of the labour market; many are doing low-paid gig work for survival income; we know that many are on long-term sick. Maybe there is a squeeze of jobs at the "Golgafrincham B Arc" level, which means it's not only your age but your profession that is experiencing increased competition? Anyway, good luck for the future. I hope one or two of these ideas may be useful.
I am 40, have adhd . I was an animator but have the hardest time finding employment, i lost my job during the pandemic, and have been living of my savings....its been hard.
I'm 57 I bought a cheap manual box truck at auction. I move stuff for people. There are all sorts of niche areas and specialisations you can get into. If you're still fit you get paid to work out, fresh air and variety, every job is different. You will quickly pick up more work than you can handle by word of mouth if you are good value. Also a truck is plan B if you become homeless.
Very interesting to listen to your experience, it mirrored mine almost exactly. I’d never had a problem landing a job but when I reached my mid 50’s, I was increasingly interviewed by younger and younger people who must have thought “he’s older than my Dad!” and despite my experience, knowledge and people skills the job offers dried up. I decided to sell my house, move to a cheaper (and nicer) part of the uk, live mortgage free and take a part time job as a postman. I’ve never been happier and I don’t miss my career and all the stress that went with it.
Thank you for your video! I’m 35 and rightly or wrongly, the future is always a worry to me! I work in e-commerce which is an ever changing landscape and my biggest fear is that I can’t keep up with the ever changing trends! Your insight on what the future may hold is really useful. I really hope you find your perfect fit!
I am 70 retired last year, at 69 still very fit still compete in powerlifting competitions at high level . I went to the job centre and the woman blatantly said to me I was too old, reported it to my MP they said because I wasn’t on benefits the job centre is not interested in me, all they are interested in is getting people off benefits, whether that’s getting a job or proving you are not looking. I find that pathetic, best of luck friend.
@@misscoutts6193 Boredom, I suspect I am probably institutionalised, after working sixty hours a week than nothing hard to get used to. I think you should retire as early as you can for better result. I could have financially retired at 63 but didn’t big mistake now I don’t really know anybody and the people I do are not the same as when I was working. Still train hard every day but not the same. Wife died etc.
@@david-pb4bi yes it’s weird, I went to the job centre to look for a job, they said they don’t have any, it’s only a place to sign on. Think it’s time they changed their name.
@balance3201 My dear fellow human being. I hate to break it to you. there is nothing that is FREE. you're paying for everything automatically. However, your life is shit and your living standards are in decline. you can go elsewhere with perhaps different systems whereby people living standards are decent. It just had to make sense, and at the moment, it doesn't in the UK. I HOPE that's a simply put for you. good luck
Never put your age or DOB on your CV and remove the last 5 years or more from it. You also do not have to disclose your age at an interview, a professional shouldn't ask. I took on a 60yo a few years ago, it was for a contract position so perfect, no training required.
63 and have the same problem(12 months almost). The employers seem to have a box to fill, so we are used as a box tick excursion. And the worst thing is that have paid taxes from the age of 15 when I left school and a born and bread citation, you find that the country of your birth will only support you for six months, then you find you can not claim any help, even to pay your bills you'll find six months your benefits will STOP. The fact that we have paid to support others for years and years when you need the help, it's not returned, and you're expected to support yourself with no help for people like us is what is just wrong. Forget any help to survive. You're expected to sell your house and car to live, so wait till your benefit ends. The real shit hits home thinking of buying a dingy and rowing it from France to claim the millions wasted on immigrants who claim to be 15 when there 25. Maybe that would work. Who knows.
I'm in Lincolnshire and am 62 this year.. I work as a cook in a care home and have for last ten years, the pay is ok, not brilliant but it keeps me busy.. people over fifty probably need to be less picky and think about less well paid jobs.. believe me jobs in care homes in the UK are ten a penny. Probably not everyone Cup of tea but it's a job.
It's bloody hard mate. Im 57 and struggling after been made redundant last year. I have had a few jobs but sadly poor ones. I worked in the chemical industry for over 25 years.. Age is definitely a factor.
Im in the same boat, sort of. I want to change jobs but Im not getting interviews nor offers. Sometimes not even a reply to my application. Im 54 and it seems like Im stuck where I am. The thing thats getting on my nerves most, is watching the talking heads on TV complain about old workers leaving the workplace and their demands that the old folks get back to work. Theyre completely ignoring the fact that ageism exists. Worse, pretending that it doesnt.
Enjoyed your vlog, I can relate. I'm 47 and work in IT. I too was contracting but then found the UK market had taken a nose dive. My last contract ended Dec 2023, and it took me 6 months to find another role. But I had to take the decision to move from contract to a perm role. Decent salary but nothing close to contracting rates, but I'm using this opportunity to better myself and gain further skills and knowledge. I use LinkedIn alot and perhaps, if you have not considered, set yourself up on that. Business and recruiters keep an eye on those who right articles and a good place to network. Which also brings me onto trying to find in your local area and further a field networking groups, i.e. businesses and field specific ones. They get together and meet-ups.
Good luck mate. I was made redundant after 10 years service. At 59 I thought I may as well start a business than return to the job market. Not guaranteed but I’m happier working flat out for myself. Wish you well
Eureka! I'm 63 and what you describe is EXACTLY what I have experienced since being made redundant at 58.
You and all those making comments in a similar situation have made me feel so much better about myself.
Thankyou.
Ageism is rife in the UK when it comes to employment. It’s crazy. People over 50 don’t get pregnant, don’t have child care issues and don’t have distractions that the younger generation have. I’d also say that we take less sick time, and are more reliable.
55 and have a 4 year old. 😁👍
You say ageism is rife and then go on to make a series of negative assumptions based on age... So yeah, I guess people such as yourself do think people of a certain age take more sick leave, are more likely to take maternity/paterinity leave, aren't as reliable or just have general distractions.
@@dfar2303How reassuring for you to know that everything still works.
Yeah exactly and full of wisdom us fifty plus can relate to younger people and mature people we're younger people can't I noticed the corporate world is the same they will not pay you what you deserve when they can pay a kid leaving uni min wage
@@dfar2303you’re a father
Age discrimination is a big issue that is rarely mentioned by the media.
100%
True - and yet plenty of articles talking about the existing and upcoming challenges of our ageing population!
Yes, its partly an age thing. If you've got years of experience as well as good qualifications especially if you kept up to date on training then that means they have to pay you a good wage to match it. So 18 to 30 year olds are more likely go accept a lower wage just to get their foot in the door. Most employers don't want to pay the full back mate.
Nowadays, you'd be lucky to get a refusal letter/email, they just don't bother to reply.
Some employers won't even give you a chance once they see your age. But keep going, maybe you should look at a completely different career, that could be why you can't find a job in your current field of work. Think outside the box, maybe a pastime hobby could end up paying you instead and you'll enjoy it.
Media..
Lol
Indeed. It's rife in UK and the easiest discrimination for employers/recruiters to get away with.
I'm 52, have a degree, but burnt out. Quit my engineering job, got a part-time job as a sandwich-maker, work only mornings, for British forces, very proud to help our boys! I don't need big money, I've got everything I need.
51 working in IT and hovering on the border of burn out. I get it. I'm considering something similar to you.
@@gdwnet worked in it at age 40. total waste of time , crap money too much stress
In my thirties, if I didn’t have a mortgage to pay (I’m assuming you don’t have a mortgage to pay or it’s very little!). I would work part time if I could!
@IngramSnake I've worked in the Falkland Islands for 20 years, tax-free. You can do the same. You'll be mortgage-free in 5 years and have some savings. There is a catch though: you have to leave the comfort of your home and live practically without shops. Can you cope with that for 5 years?
Is right ,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻...
Same here in Australia. Sadly employers want a 25 yr old to have 20 years of experience!
Workplaces have become so reactive (build it quick and slap bandaids on it when it breaks, or worse) experience isn't as valuable as what it used to be.
Should've told them to hire the employees from TEMU factory.😂
Same in Lithuania. I read many job descriptions that are just against all logics. I.E. • can be a just graduate (and the following point after)
• at least 2 years of experience in that field
@Notintheclub that's true. that's insane
Australia is one of the worse countries for age discrimination.
Most employers don't like people over the age of 55 because we are harder to bully ,we are usually more financial independence and will not put up with there bull sh* t. They feel threated by are experience and confidence.
@@robertseddon2512 absolutely 💯
100% correct. They are getting more particular and demanding more and people our age can see when we're being conned.
Maybe for some. Try to look from the perspective of an employer.
Some jobs maybe just to hard on a 55 year old.
Also being overqualified for the job you are wanting.
They think you will be bored and we'll just move on to another job
Normally your CV will have multiple different jobs that you've done over the years.
This gives the impression that you're not someone who sticks around.
So they feel that if they train you, you will only be around for a couple of years and then move on which this is then time and money wasted for a company.
It is illegal for a company to discriminate on age.
But not so to pick the best candidate.
Out of curiosity I bet your CVs are extensive.
In the end it's more do you fit into the culture of the company as well as can you do the job.
@@MichaelPickles I spent 23 years at my last job. If that doesn't give the impression of someone who sticks around, I don't know what does.
Yes employers will not admit it but they do not like to employ over 55’s. It is about the culture more than the job often especially if younger more insecure colleagues might feel threatened or less capable
I was in the U.K. corporate world until I suffered burn out at 39 and was sacked.
Classic blessing in disguise. Changed my life 180, and now run my own business in central Europe.
Corporate burn out is very really and as corps have got a tighter and tighter on people and ever increasing unrealistic demands things are now going sideways where large sections of people are basically on a "go slow". Its part of the reason why teh western work economic situation is stagnant and generally in decline
what do you do for a living ?
And I am sure you must be glad to be out of the shithole that the UK has become
Not everyone is as talented as you
I hear you mate. Here in Sydney, I was made redundant in Sept 2023. Turned 50 in January. It's now been 10 months actively looking. It's enough to drive one to despair.
Can you not live on social security?
I am 58 ,female and working for Uber Eats and Just Eat..better than being employed with a boss breathing down my neck! If I want to stop fir a coffee, go off shopping, have a day off, i can do all that under my terms! No interviews. Yes there is no grand job title to it but I have FREEDOM and I am employed, I get by financially .. having a massive income is nothing compared to my freedom...Im not proud. Good luck anyways.
I'm the same age as you and last year I gave up my job in a college to become a taxi driver. I got fed up with the responsibility and continual training for minimum wage plus lack of respect from management.
I'm now self employed and earning much more even though I only work 3 hours per day.
Hey, hats off to you, nothing to be ashamed of. I’m a similar age, quit the rat race and work in recycling, enjoying it! 😂
Well done, do you deliver from your car, scooter or ebike ?
The passport office didn't transfer my right to work stamp when I renewed my Kiwi passport over here. When that's sorted I'm thinking of doing the same
Is that why my Uber Eats was cold?
@@justinf1343 They probably didn't use a thermal bag. Thermal bags are a must for that job.
I sold my engineering business in 2005 after 30 years of running it. Decided after a short while that I needed something to do ater all my other interests and hobbies. Decided it was not worth applying for a job because I only wanted to do two or three days a week. I approached a number of local companies offering to do holiday and sickness cover for them. Had some business cards printed and left these.
Within a few days I had a phone call asking if I could do a stand in for a week while one of their machine operators was on holiday. That week went very well, I charged by the hour at a rate that was high enough to make it worthwhile to me.
Within a short while I had more work coming than I wanted from half a dozen companies, and could easily have done a full six day week, and found myself having to turn work away . I was also 55 at that time. We may get old but we have experience that cannot be matched by young people.
cajonkers!thirty years in showbusiness!you should have been sipping tequila on a beach in Tahiti chatting to Jeff bezos over the phone,threatening to buy him out from Amazon if he didn't pull his socks up!
No one wants to hear your crazy love success story mate, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE gets that lucky. Not sure how you pulled that little trick off but it's a HR nightmare and insurance for you must be through the roof in every place you worked in!
I think you may be one of the very few people who sell a company and would still want to work a job after that. I'm guessing you sold it for 6 figures and made lots from the income of the business, why would you want to work a job and listen to a boss after that?
This really boils my pee. We hired a guy who’s late 50’s in the USA as he had a ton of industry experience and is actively helping osmose that into the juniors. He wanted something useful to do before he retires. It’s not a massively senior role but he has a lot of reverent influence on the people in the team.
That is terrific. I remember that happening to me way back in the 80's in my 20's we had plenty 40 somethings working teaching us in corporate USA. I was taught that you need to make what you cost x 3. Your cost in salary is a 1/3, the cost of operation 1/3, then the the last third is essentially NIBT and profit. Not hard. I worked under financially stressful goals, essentially NYSE: sales, EBIT, and EBITDA...we had to meet weekly financial projections. 100's millions of dollars of portfolio experience and meeting financial targets is the name of the game of life whether its a coffee shop, a bank, a university cost centre, or for profit NYSE entity. For you to harness his experience is a testament to your ethos and his for that matter. Those youngsters will gain knowledge no degree will ever teach you and a work ethic that is priceless. Best of luck!
Are you a project manager by any chance?
That is brilliant. Also, love the word "osmose". I'm using that tomorrow on a call ;)
osmose...? Hilarious.
I am going to give you some hope, l have a small business in Aberdeen and most of the people that have worked for me have been over 50 when they started. Recently l have had a few media interviews about employing older people. I am 64 myself and it scares me. I am willing to meet you and have a chat for your channel.
Do not give up.
Likewise - I watched the video but not sure how to provide help and support (apart from commenting here)... I am happy to share what I have been doing maybe chatting with you for your channel...? Maybe thats your new job, interviewing people like a video pod cast and asking them about their jobhunting experience... i have seen many people in the same situation as us on youtube and on linkedin and some people have applied for thousands of jobs and still not getting anything... let me know how we can collectively provide support and I am sure you will get many volunteers - it must be inspiring for you seeing all these great comments against your video.. i have already subscribed and liked... :)
Can I contact you Peter 😁
@@sillygirl628yes you can
That is so very kind of you. My experience has been outright ghosting. Oh, wait, 1 recruiter did say I had the skills but, my age is a problem. It's sad really. 😢
I expect you knew you would get a few replies Peter! I'm in England, and am looking for work, just to support myself and live a quiet life. Please drop me a line if you think you can help - but do give the channel video poster first pass - he totally deserves a solid chance!
I was feeling old in my late fifties, and suddenly couldn’t face another politically correct team building exercise. So I quit, and started working for the council recycling team, out on the trucks, early start, walking miles emptying bins in every weather. Maybe I’ve lost the plot, because it’s tough and filthy sometimes, but I’m fitter, happier, and more relaxed than I have been in years. I’m not the only one there with a similar story. They’re crying out for drivers. Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it! 😂
Well done mate….and that sounds like a great job to me!
Completely agree, I did 30 years in Sales and Management, I now work in a factory, it’s not easy but no more sales targets, no more difficult phone calls, no dealing with the public, no hassle or problems out of work hours, I may have dumbed down I’m not sure but I’d never ever go back.
PS yes I’m 52 and applied for hundreds of jobs after being made redundant and mainly heard absolutely nothing back at all, I used to joke I might as well bin my cv and 30 year work history and say I’m an armed robber just out of prison, I couldn’t have had a worse response to my applications.
“Team building”
what a crock of!
I'm 54 need a new job the council bin job I thought of trying 👍🏻
I lost my job at 50, and it's practically impossible to find work.
I've had the unfortunate experience of being unemployed a few times over 35 years. Had my CV updated, applied to over 300 jobs, with 3 interviews, that I drove 150 miles to get to, and got ghosted by all 3! I'm a qualified engineer, with a city & guilds, but companies no longer want experience, but young pretty kids, with 100 college degrees.
I've been asked my age 3 times, by agencies and they all ghosted me after that.
A huge percentage of jobs advertised are fake roles. Indeed is full of them.
You're right about the fake roles on Indeed. You may have noticed too the automated rejection emails always arrive at around the same time
They certainly DO NOT want young kids with degrees for jobs. That demographic struggle the most to land anything. It’s the the job market - we have entered a post Covid silent depression.
After the 2008 economic crash, I lasted through two years of layoffs before my number came up and I lost my job at 40. I couldn't get any response from employers, so I was forced to "hire" myself and go freelance. It's been 15 years now, and I can't believe I'm still able to make a go of it. Even so, it barely pays the monthly bills and contributes nothing to my future or getting ahead.
The last time I applied for jobs was about a year ago. As with you, I applied to over 300 jobs in 24 months. I got four responses. It's beyond humiliating being interviewed by people who aren't even 30-years-old who don't know nearly as much about my work and industry as I do. Worse yet, one of those four jobs included two interviews, a written test, and a third interview with SEVEN people, including the CEO, that lasted two hours...and I still didn't get the job.
The whole job search process is absolutely soul-crushing, and it's SO different now than it was 30 years ago. Forget about first interview-second interview-job offer. NO ONE actually reviews your resume when first submitted now. It's passed through artificial intelligence (AI) and algorithm systems searching for "keywords" after which you'll get a "relevance" score. IF your score is high enough, you'll get a phone interview with a professional screener who doesn't even work for the company you applied to but was contracted by them. IF you make it past the AI filter and the screener, only THEN will you get your first interview with someone who actually works for the company. What a world we live in.
Have you thought of training and assessing apprentices in the workplace?
Agencies are staffed by "kids" with useless degrees, who all bought into the idea that anyone without was in fact a pleb.
I did C&G and BTEC in electronic engineering at a time where industry wanted those qualifications, industry still wants them, but the agencies control access to the jobs and THEY want degrees. I see it from the other side, where I work we can't get experienced engineers, the agencies just send us graduates, but I know the market is full of experienced engineers whoa re just getting filtered out because they don't have a degree and the agencies think that people can't learn new skills.
Companies dont realise that 60 is the new 40. No child care, loads of experience strong work ethic, committed focused and serious bout life. May be a few years left in us but less sick leave and not seeking to climb the ladder of success.
We seek to be active and live well.
Ive hot a new colleague, she just turned 60. I see signs of memory issues, so I checked her every work. Moving forward, should I tell my manager of her age-relate issue or not. Dilemma.
And 80 is the new 60😊
Nope...60 is most definitely 60 and 40 is, well you know the rest.
@@ramtom9882 Unless she’s a nurse or something, I.e people’s lives will be at risk - mind your business.
@@mariavelapidube929 60 is not the new 40.
Am 58yo been self employed since 2003 currently being a handyman since 2012 full time. Love it. I struggled to find work at 46. So my wife said "why don't you become a handyman " never looked back. Love the job and no boss to argue with...
The best decision. Keep at it.
well done my friend.
Do you make a decent income? Compared with previous situation?
@fulconerra3055 Yes I do. To make the same pay that I had when employed only takes me 20% of the same time... so I don't work too hard and have plenty of leisure time. However because I love what I do I don't really work now...
@@trilbies that’s great and reassuring to hear!
"I, Daniel Blake" I cried when I saw that film. It´s about a man who lose his job and can´t find a new one. The authorities treated him so badly. It´s the same in Sweden.I took out some of my pension when I was 56 because of the situation with work. I have to live frugally but it´s worth it. I didn´t want to ask for job anymore and feel like nobody.
I understand what you are saying,sad to say the film 'I,Daniel Blake' is realistic.I have worked various jobs over the year's and i have seen people being treated bad but alot of people lack the confidence to take a chance and try to find an alternative job or way out of their situation.I am also starting to take some pension money early(i am 58 ) so i do not have take poor paid jobs.I am a contractor so i only work if the pay is good and the company treats me with respect otherwise i rather not work at all!I am too old now to put up with idiot manager's or other idiot's in a workplace!
@@user-zi6uf7qn9wthat was made in Newcastle upon Tyne here where I live.
It was amazing and showed just what our lives are like here
I know how you feel ! Made redundant in 2007 after 25 years working all over the world then you are not worth a job anywhere??? Some guy gave me an interview & told me "Don't like working with old folks? Did the same as you!
I was interviewed for my story as a single parent, the rise of single parents having to do whatever to get by while society looks on and judges you it would shock most people if they knew how bad society has gotten let me tell you there was no help for me when I needed it, it's all smoke and mirrors uk is finished doesn't matter if you stay in devolved areas the problems exists
That film was one of saddest films I've ever watched.
Im in the same position. 52 years old Head of Finance last role. 35 years experience. Went for an interview and my effective manager had 6 years Finance experience. He probably saw me as a threat.
Of course!
If he were smart, he'd learn from you.
Having a manager who has low self esteem would be torture. If the manager was self assured, he'd be happy to learn from you.
PROBABLY?...HIS VIEW OF YOU?...SIMPLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Revolting, digusting and sickening. The largest contingent of the population is aged 45-65. There is more of us than them. Never forget that!
Lower your standards, plenty of jobs out there mate.
... which will break your back and ruin your health ; standing up on a conveyor belt production line from midnight to 6 am every day
I'm 58 and am now a security guard. Terrible job, terrible money. I had better jobs when I was in my teens. I should have joined the masons.
Awful job, security. Nothing happens for 99% of the time and the other time it is dangerous. Also, most are on their feet all day.
... getting arthiritis , back pain , sciatica and joint damage
Maybe try a driving job? Cargo or schoolbus? There’s plenty of job openings now.
IN OTHER WORDS...GET YOUR PRESUMED MASON FRIENDS TO BAIL YOU OUT OF A HOLE, THAT YOU'RE UNABLE TO DO FOR YOURSELF. MASONS HELP THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES, IT IS NOT A RESCUE SERVICE FOR SUB OPTIMALS.
I don't even put my date of birth (1973) on my c.v anymore , that gets you past the pink-haired 20-something warthog in H.R who'd see it and hit "delete" straight away . And as for that "over-qualified" excuse , YOU SAW MY C.V !! You knew I was "over-qualified" and still invited me here knowing you were going to turn me down , cheers for wasting both our time !!
Lol...yeah, when I have an interview with a blue hair I automatically know it's not happening
@@johnnyNobCheese They have been indocrinated to see us White men as having 'privelage' aka already rich enough to not need a job. See we White men tick no boxes.
@@johnnyNobCheeseteens and sub 30s really have a hard time handling us older folk
But you hit the equality box. So at least they can say 'look we don't have discrimination against age' as we interviewed a man over 50. Complete of everybody's time.
Yes, they ring up. You did really well at the interview, but you haven't got the job. Yea great thanks.
I worked as a recruiter for 25 years, mostly in the UK. Unfortunately ageism is a problem, it’s often unspoken but it’s real. There comes a point where a 35-45 year old becomes more appealing than those who are 55-65. I’m now also in the same position as you as I am a similar age to you. It’s not a CV issue, it’s age!
Yes it is but what can we do about it?
@@sherimillman53 Nothing, it is like this for ages. You just have to prepare that it will happen to you as well. Even at the age of 25 you should know that this point will come to you.
Ageism is rife here in Australia as well, I’m an unemployed 55 year old man with close to 30 years in the finance industry, but here in Australia the ageism starts when your 40.
Although it’s illegal to discriminate to against older workers, laws are only as good as they are enforced, and they are not enforced at all.
Wasn’t expecting to see a high level BP content creator on here. Just having a sticky I guess
If no-one is willing to GIVE you a job, ....MAKE A JOB! Self employment, even if it'd only making a hobby your job, is MUCH BETTER than grovelling for employment for someone just FILLING THE POST! It may not pay what you're used to, but the SATISFACTION of doing something you enjoy, AND managing a better work/life balance, is something you will never understand until you DO IT!
YOU'RE NEVER TOO OLD TO START AGAIN! My brother just put the family business in mothballs, and at FIFTY, started training to be a nurse! IT CAN BE DONE! ....You just have to be/think like an "ALPHA"!
Ahh yes make money doing what you enjoy... Which is...?
The most simple kinds of self-employment measure up very well to even high-mid tier "regular" jobs. There is a lot of unpleasant office stuff that can be sidestepped, a lot of unwanted pressures and responsibility you don't have to take on. 100% agree.
I worked for myself in my 30s for ten years. Toughest ten years of my life. Forget about making any money for year 1 and 2. Don't mean to rain on the parade but self-employment is hard - if you get it right it is wonderful but it is a 24/7/365 job for the first few years.
The algorithm's automatically bin your CV's if your over 50!!! Too qualified, too experienced, too expensive too old! That was my experience.
This is so true, I'm 49 and I never get any kind of response
How would the algorithm know your age if you don't put it on your CV? Remove dates on education and don't list your first roles, only the last 10 years.
@@jamessmith1652 This is good advice - I did this & helped me land a job.
Agreed. Don't put your age or DOB on the C.V. if you can help it.
@jamessmith1652 That's true to a point. The problem then is when they meet you at interview they get to see you and work out roughly your age. It's at that point any 'possible' ageism will kick in.
And yesterday I heard on the news that Liz Truss is advocating for us to work until we're 80!!! We can't even get offered a job in our 50s, it seems from reading about people's experience in the comment section. Dream on Liz Truss!
Truss and her ilk want us in the fields for minimum wage until we drop dead, the money the Government saves in paying the farmers will be made back by not being alive to pick up a pension.
And she/Kwasi were instrumental in crapping up the economy too - plus her 45 days of PM gift her a decent salary for life.
Politicians are so detached from the real world. Both Red and Blue. Useless!
Typical of politicians that they can screw up the finances then make the public pay the price.
I say we should NEVER stop working even volunteer work will keep you sane and get you out and about with people. We are social creatures. Its in your DNA.
I’ve been in a similar situation at the same age. Employers really don’t want to employ our age group. This is born out when they ask ridiculous questions like “what are your ambitions?”.
Well at 60, my ambition is to live long enough to retire.
It's not just us oldies (I'm 57), but my daughter too who is 18 is finding it very hard to get a job. I blame agencies such as 'Indeed' for being over archaic, poorly managed and often they advertise vacancies that have long shut.
Agencies, and agents, are a huge part of the issue. They are like real estate agents - they have somehow defined a function in their particular sector and now dominate. The result is high turnover and low loyalty. Easy for businesses to "prove" they've used some methodology in their hiring process, but they are missing a key element - personability.
I've used indeed and found it very useful...two sides to every story.
Yes mate. I'm Jeff from Ireland. I was laid off last year in June. I turn 56 soon. I have applied for 2842 jobs online through direct emailing and recruitment companies. I'm a father of 3 children. Worked in Engineering, Project management and Operations management. I've had a few very positive interviews and honestly thought I had the jobs. But on 2 occasions I received a call from the HR person who was very upset with the companies choice not to employ me. They agreed I gave a great presentation and informative interview but the managers interviewing felt that I was more experienced than them and so didn't want me around the directors. Next week after many many months of struggling and exams I will be self employed as a Taxi man. Never thought I would ever move from Corporate big business to end up being a Taxi man. I will need to work until I'm at least 75 to clear the mortgage. There is 100% an issue with my age and experience so just gave up on looking and from now on ill only answer to myself. Best wishes to all on here.
Good luck mate from England 😊
Best of luck from a fellow Irishman 👍 Is there much up front cost to becoming a taxi man. I've thought about becoming one for a long time, I was a self employed delivery driver and loved the self employed aspect of it
Good luck Jeff from London - same boat !
@@JeffDublinIreland1968 cheers and well done 👍 Perhaps edit your post and remove your date of birth tho, that’s your personal info x
I would say, that is the best decision you made in life, driving a Cab is better than most corporate jobs
People could consider going self-employed. It's humble, but there is always a demand for lawn mowing, window, house cleaning, dog walking, and being a helping hand to the elderly. Doesn't take a huge amount of investment, quick and easy to learn the basic skills, good rate of pay, choose own hours, don't have to dress up, choose each job, work at a reasonable pace, etc.
Hope this helps.
Totally agree been a self employed gardener now 13 years
Well we have an aging population and within that, there is a huge demand for a lot of the jobs you mentioned. I’m disabled now and despite having carers coming in, I employ a cleaner and two dog walkers and by word of mouth too.
after suffering age discrimnation set up my own business oven cleaning
Great comment, totally agree. I am 60 , self employed and wouldn't have it any other way. I couldn't and wouldn't take any bullshit from some Thatcherite jobsworth half my age. Anyone who has practical skills should be fine, I build furniture and do general repairs etc. Most people under 40 , male and female don't even know what a screwdriver is, unbelievable but true. Good luck people there are openings out there.
Why is being self-employed 'humble'? For many people having their own business is a massive lifetime goal. Being self-employed is the complete opposite of humble, it's being bolshy and proactive and making your own way in the world.
I went through the same pain, once I got into my 50's (I'm now 55) I just kept getting job rejections and felt so worthless. I'm professionally trained in IT and considered cross training into Development and Cybersecurity, but that would take 2 years of experience to really be considered and learning new things at 55 isn't always an easy thing. Anyway, many bus companies in and around Manchester are looking to train bus drivers, so I did a bus drivers licence at Stagecoach in Manchester and started driving buses. A few months later I was offered a software testing role and grabbed it with both hands. Be willing to do other jobs outside of your comfort zone, still an honest wage, until you strike oil with an accounting opportunity.
A former colleague of mine did the exact same thing. He was about to start the bus driver training, then he got a BI job locally at another company.
This is excellent advice.
There’s mental health discrimination too, I’m worried my medical history will follow me. Nice to hear your sound buddy ❤
You seem like a natural on camera! You're engaging, trustworthy, and entertaining. I really enjoyed this video. It would be great to see you expand your channel and share your accounting expertise. Maybe you could do videos explaining specific accounting concepts or talking about the interesting (or not-so-interesting) sides of the field. This could be a great way to build a following and even turn RUclips into an income stream.
Great advice. I was thinking he has a great attitude considering his situation.
He says um constantly
I agree! This is the best advice I have read in this comments section!
You're not too old. You're a well-spoken and seemingly intelligent person that has lots to contribute. Contact your local adult learning service - they have opportunites for all and are on your side.
@starbarhippo1989
Not at all. People need to be made aware of avenues of help available to them. There are lots of good jobs - the door is firmly shut for those who need them the most.
Yes, job hunting over 50 can be incredibly challenging. My husband is 53 and was a high earner, but he hasn't been able to find a contract since 2022. He had to pivot and has now converted to trading. He was also a contractor. At 51, I've faced similar difficulties securing a contract and often encounter the issue of being overqualified, so I am now freelancing. We're in the UK too, and even our next-door neighbors and friends are in the same situation, so you’re not alone. Thank you for sharing this x Good luck
@@JasenomadeTV IR35 changes in 2021 playing out predictably enough with the end of the contract market
After redundancy I got my hgv license and CPC now working for Royal Mail and its brilliant
At what age did you do your HGV licence? Was it fairly easy to pick something up without any HGV experience? Thanks!
@@scottlazar6376 I had a lot of experience with me being a hgv mechanic but only had a class 2 license and never drove class 1 on the road. I took my class 1 three yrs ago at the age of 50 but did take few yrs of driving them including writing a car of before I was confident
I'm 57. I left my last job of nearly twenty-five years and went to university to do a law degree. After failing to find any useful employment (over qualified, apparently!), I ended up working in a cheese factory doing a back-breaking job. I lasted five days. I stopped for a moment to stretch my back and was yelled at by a young Polish guy. I took my work coat off, handed it to him and left. All I could find was crap agency work; minimum wage, back-breaking work, no dignity or respect and certainly no job satisfaction. I spent a career saving lives and decided to diversify to continue helping others. I took my occupational pension early and scrape by with my dog. However, high cost of living is making that much harder now, so I am looking for a part time job to make ends meet. I certainly don't mention the law degree... especially the part where I concentrated on employment law.
Are there really no employers that are interested in your law degree? Seems like a very useful degree to me
@@WillyJunior To become a solicitor I would need to complete the modern equivalent of the LPC (Masters) and then find a contract with a law firm. Jobs in law are highly competitive and sought after. I am happy where I live. To stand a chance I would have to be prepared to relocate. Many law firms ask that paralegals (these were once unqualified roles and paralegals are far cheaper than fully qualified solicitors) to have a good law degree AND an LPC. When I mention the law degree in any application or CV, I often hear that I am over qualified?
During the coughdemic I reapplied for a position with my old employer. They would rather put lower qualified, and therefor less expensive, bums on seats. A recently qualified student paramedic is far less expensive than a qualified and experienced paramedic. I later learned they were also using student medics from the MOD. They often worked with us on placement to gain knowledge and experience. That was/is great news for the Trusts. Free labour... as these people were being paid by someone else. Ambulance services were keen to see old lags like me leave. There are a plethora of young student paramedics that would do the job for far less money and when they are burned out and leave, there will always be more to fill the seats. It won't be long before there will be very few 'experienced' paramedics left. I think the same thing happened in teaching.
@@akoola7853thank you for your years helping people in need, a very stressful job mentally, and physically,
I have learnt to late in life, sadly, work smarter not harder, iv seen lots of chancers, bluffers,and bone idle relatives of staff members promoted, and the willing horses bearing the weight.
Your comment really struck a chord with me! I also did a law degree in middle age. I even graduated with a first class honours after putting massive efforts into my revision.
I assumed that it would act as a golden ticket and would open all kinds of doors for me. How wrong I was. It was more of a poison chalice (perhaps employers felt intimidated by it?!) so I ended up omitting it from my CV and I've had to settle for menial, low paid work ever since.
I feel deeply embittered that I was never able to pursue a career in law because I couldn't afford the fees for the LPC or BPC, especially when I help friends out with their legal issues and they say "you would have made a great lawyer"!
I would like to apologize for that Polish guy.
I am the same
56 I cannot get a job
Their are scared of you
With experience and confidence
Scared shitless
Very scared
And you have the backbone with a memory long enough not to put up with other people's sht.....that's why ...
i agree i talked to an old man who worked in B&Q and he got messed about with what hour's he can work each week but he was in semi-retiremnet so he didn't care,i would not let manager's treat me like that,i am a contractor so i expect to be treated with respect otherwise i don't take a contract job!I don't like manager's in general because most of them are useless and are yes sir men!
@@linda-nl8ib and usually narcissist types....they have employed.these.type.of.people in management and it's destroyed work places ..period.
@@linda-nl8ib and wow ...my respond has been deleted
Can you drive? Have you looked at Trade Plate driving? It’s basically delivering cars for the motor trade and then making your way home. They wouldn’t hire me because I’m under 55, so if you’re of the age, you might be in with a shot? I’ve seen trade plate adverts stating they only hire 55+!
I had always done my own DIY. At 55 I took a course in painting and decorating. Inundated with work. Chose what i wanted to do part time. Did 2-3 days a week and it left me with time for me. Always courses in tiling, joinery,etc and you will find yourself very much in demand.
I did exactly the same in 2021 after losing my position due to covid. Now painting part time as that suits my lifestyle.
@@les9920nice one mate. Is that employed through a company, or self employed?
I'm a 51 year old female. Renovated my last 2 properties, trained in painting and decorating and done my level 2 plumbing. Have a host of DIY skills now, I also have worked painting new build in the past. Currently I'm renovating my mothers house and making bathroom sink units from antique furniture and fitting them with sinks. I have applied for a few maintenance jobs and decorating jobs in the past and never heard back from them. Instead I started doing painting, decorating and small DIY jobs privately. However now prefer making sink units to sell. Do you work for yourself or are you employed?
@@jonnygti self employed mate
@@jonnygti Yes it was self employed. I dont do it now, I'm fully retired, but I was never short of work. I advertised to start with then after 12 months it was recommendations and people comeing back so I didnt need to advertise any more.
Hey there, I'm a uker in the US atm.
Just wanted to say don't give up on the job hunt, and take care of your health as you navigate this journey. There is absolutely age discrimination, even though governments around the developed world have introduced laws to prevent it, sadly, it will still happen.
I also feel that if there are younger viewers watching this video, I hope they read this comment.
It is so important that people invest in their future. Have a job, try to build up an emergency fund (1-6 months salary) and then put as much money as you can into an ISA or in the US, an IRA. It is SO important the younger generation learn to invest for their future. There is no guarantee that a pension will be claimable when you read retirement (where the retirement age keeps going up) and no guarantee that social security will be around (for those in the US).
We also sadly can't work forever. No matter how many laws are passed, companies always want to hire younger (cheaper?) labour.
Hope you find a job soon buddy.
I've been a contractor for many years too and very familiar with that 'oldest person in the room' feeling... the disturbing thing is it's not the younger members of these teams that harbour and exude the ageist prejudices... it's the f**in senior members and leadership team who treat you the worst
I'm 55 and been out of work since 2020. I've given up looking and live on UC and food banks. It's ok, my mortgage is paid and just have a very simple life now. Ageism is real.
Regarding UC. I said in an earlier comment my brother was on UC and this flipping journal thing - write to it or we take your benefit away.
From what I could see the case workers didn't have time to read and reply / be helpful - it is difficult to blame them and surely the AI / data analysis can check / verify the extent of ageism? Someone in DWP eun some Adobe Analytics and make a policy to address this ageism if found to be true?
@@stephenhookings1985 ive been on and off universal credit over the last 4 years and whenever there is a voluntary (but uts really compulsory) group thing involving long term unemployed invariably its men over 50. When i did find a job and got quickly dismissed from it i was asked by my job search advisor if i felt i was discriminated by age as i was given a flimsy reason for ending my contract. Ironically i dont think it was down to age (though i was one of a few old people working there)
Won't you lose your benefit if you don't find work.
@@Dave-wh3hw in the UK we don't pay benefit temporarily, we pay as long as needed...but you can get sanctioned where they can reduce or simply not pay you for up to 3 months iirc if you do anything to convince them you're not looking for work
I'm 63 a plumber went for two jobs 3 weeks ago and got offered them both... obviously being a plumber helps
Plumbing is a shitty dirty job that noone want to do ....that's why.
Trades can get any jobs no matter what age. It’s a supply and demand issue. My grandfather was a carpenter and joiner. He could make anything. Unfortunately in his time they were paid a pittance. He begged me to go to university. I’m sorry I took his advice.
Are your knees still up for it? lol
I am a year younger and still get offered work but not like it was 20 years ago.
I am 58 in Australia,had to reinvent and work from home.
I will never again work with or for 25 to 45 age group.
Good luck Mate 😊
Hi, I'm 52 and was an Apple engineer for 32years. Was because for woke reasons I'm no longer wanted and the company has changed its repair policy. I've been unemployed for 2years and have now resulted in becoming a taxi driver which in itself took 8months to do all the couses. The world is so crazy and people over 50 are now finished. Companies want younger people, and apparently I'm over qualified or I've had it to good for to long.... Meaning I'm not Gay, Female, I'm white and I have no disabilities all of which I can't or won't change to get a job. Good luck with the new world order...
Maybe you should have studied different fruits ?
Same for Microsoft engineers, gone from £50K plus to minimum wage part time, worse than dole
Diversity hiring, is an unspoken taboo topic.
Not always, are the best people hired for the job.
But at least you and me both know that.
I’m a 44 year old solicitor so I expect a similar experience in the coming years. Keep trying. I would find you easy to work with. You have a good personality and someone will snap you up.
There is definitely a market for this type of content!! New Sub. Thanks.
I got a job 9 months ago today exactly working in a sandwich factory, I utterly hated it, hardly anyone speaks English and it’s dirty and noisy. I am 54 and have been trying relentlessly to find something else which I did this week, I gave up my shit job yesterday and I start at another in customer service next week.Just take a job mate, when you are skint enough you will…. There is no way you can pick and choose what you want to do over 50.
Ageism is a real thing. You are not too old with 55 years old, but to a lot of despicable companies think you are.
Take care of your mental health, take it easy and good luck with job hunting!!
I feel your pain. My brother is in a similar situation in Swindon. The national news is that there are is a need for qualified workers and many vacancies but that, at the same time there are millions of people ‘choosing’ not to be part of the workforce. There is something wrong with the official narrative I’m sure. Hope your RUclips channel is successful - you’ve made a great start!🎉
I am 58 and I took early retirement at 55, the last three years have been the best time of my life. I spent 40 years working as a pastry chef and now I’m done. No stress and no financial worries is the way to live. Have a great day 😊
I’m 57. I left school in 1983 with one O level in metal work, and went on to serve an apprenticeship as a fitter, I left that job to be a car salesman in 1988. Since then I can honestly say I’ve never had a career plan, I’ve ducked and dived all my working life and been self employed for the past 30 years. Not blowing my own trumpet but I now own 3 rental properties that give me an income, and I also have a business erecting signs, which is sometimes busy and sometimes not, so I paid to get my hgv license , hiab qualification, and crane slinger and crane supervisor, that’s given me multiple strings to my bow. I’m constantly busy because all my eggs arnt in one basket. I now get offered crane work and driving work on an adhoc basis every week .
I think being able to diversify is the key , nobody I do work for ,could care less how old I am, they know I’m dependable and get the job done.
I agree - diversity enables you to adapt with the times and this is why I believe in continuing education.
Couldn't agree more, I started my own engineering business aged 25 , in my mid fifties now and my first business goal was to diversify to not be reliant on one sector. I've been contracting on many projects, automotive, aviation, civil, owned a renovation company and off the back of that also have a rental property. After learning and utilising CNC work on various projects, bought my own laser cutters and have a laser cutting facility, have also worked for the entertainment industry, theatre design, fibreglass display work, signage, etc. The more strings to your bow the better, especially as a business, enables you to survive.
They know they can bully younger people who will also accept more work for less pay. If your more mature your likely to stand up for yourself and others.
It is a slave system. No other way to put it.
If you want to experience the true horror of unemployment over 55 try claiming Universal Credit.
Savings causing problems? God forbid you put something aside for a rainy day.
I got my brother UC recently - seems there is some journal to be completed to prove you are looking for work but no one reads it.
Thing is he had terminal cancer - so I managed to get him exempt from completing rhe journal - after a few threatening letters that UNLESS he added to the journal they would take benefit away.
He passed away last month - incurable cancer is a terrible illness. Being fit and apparently unemployable but with no financial safety net seems to be nasty too.
The kicker - he was too young to draw on his pensions. I am battling to get the companies to "at their discretion" pass it down to his grandson.
@@maisiedogonline The system actively punishes you for being frugal and living within your means.
It's a bit of a mess. I'm on UC but have found that most people in the DWP I have had to deal with are ok. Maybe I've been lucky. Most seem to understand it's an absolute shitstorm for finding work
@@stephenhookings1985the journal I guess is rarely looked at but I would not be surprised if you didn't fill something in you'd be sanctioned...rightly so. If you're not making effort to look for work expect the DWP to come down on you
I’m in the opposite position, in a job at 55 that pays really well but the company treats you awfully. I raised a grievance after it became untenable which is going to tribunal after a sham investigation. I know all I will get now is crap till I retire , no training or progression, or I can leave , earn half as much if I am lucky enough to get a job. I have little pension, house nearly paid which I have considered selling so I can leave but the money would run out before I’m getting our lousy state pension. I feel trapped in a job I hate but see no way out even though I try to convince myself I’m lucky to have a well paying job . Once in your 40s you’re not wanted , in your 50s you are positively discriminated against . At least your profession will have allowed you to earn a decent amount for many years and have some options whereas many low skilled are skipping meals to pay rent.
Yes mate. I've had it all too. 22 years as an IT consultant, applying for jobs and attending interviews is expensive, especially travelling from the South West (Cornwall, the jobs desert). I've been told the same thing, great experience blah blah, you fulfill all of the requirements but you don't fit into our "workplace demographic". It's always a recruitment agency, never the actual company, and always a foreigner who is feeding back to the government that we have to import my skills from their countries. I've turned my back on IT, and now work in retail, (a boat chandlers), minimum wage and zero future/prospects/life or job satisfaction. Fed up to my back teeth of being discriminated against in both racial and ageist terms by people and organisations that aren't even domiciled in the UK for tax reasons. I suspect it's a top down instruction, much reinforced by the advent of Smarmer, that we are seen as the Brexiteers and are thus to be disappeared in terms of opportunity and income. I'm aware of several instances where people of immense value and skill have had to train groups of foreigners in their jobs, which are then exported and the English employees dumped, with subsequent loss of income, housing repossession and relationship/family breakdown. As ever, it's usually men, who usually tend not to speak out, but there is an undercurrent of simmering resentment and fury in the UK which is never far from the surface, and when it finally does come out it will bring this government down.
Wondered when I’d see it’s all the foreigners fault.. grow up & wake up. Not a smart man @fadetogrey to like such a comment. Do you really want employing?
Lets see, the Tories were in power since 2010 and you blame Starmer who has been in power for at least few weeks now...
Im 57 and work as a lecturer in engineering. I'm absolutely certain that if I lost my job now I would never get another in the same field. I have applied for many similar jobs at other institutions and don't even get a thanks but no thanks reply. It seems to me that HR employ staff based on equality and diversity but conveniently forget about ageism. We have not employed a single white over 50 male as long as I can remember. Something needs to be done about this.
Well spotted.
Trust me, black and brown people are being discriminated against same way.
@@bertielikesbeer They definitely are not !
@@bertielikesbeeryeah. People think if u are black u just walk in. 😂. I lost a job in September last year. Took me 5 months and lots of applications to get another job ...and the new job pays way way less.
All the best with your You Tube channel and job hunting 👍
This video almost brought me to tears! The job market is not the best at the moment, have you thought of looking at hospitality, health or transport. They may not be the best but the seem to be hiring all ages.
I'm in my mid-50s, and have decided with another friend who is also above 50, looking to set up a consulting business, so as to get round this ageism nonsense! So, I totally resonate with what you saying in your video.
This is exactly the kind of content I’ve been looking for thank you, likewise as you said, my feed is filed with Americans talking about the job market but none of uk, thank you for uploading, subscribed
This does not surprise me and it’s clear that “ageism” is real …. No dressing it up + am satisfied that there is indeed a growing problem . Thank you for your refreshing and honest presentation and let’s know how you get on. 👋👍
The job market is bad. I'm an IT Software developer with decades of experience. The business I was working for was destroyed by the lockdown back in 2020. The "2 weeks to flatten the curve" turned into 2 years. Made redundant. I thought I'd secured a role back in Dec 2023...had 3 interviews; right down to discussing with HR my salary etc. Only to be told in mid January 2024 that recruitment was being frozen and the role was no longer being offered. Must've applied for hundreds of jobs since then....most I think are just "Ghost" jobs put out by recruitment agencies to give the impression that they have lots of jobs on offer. It is very tough.
I’ve worked in the recruitment industry for 14 years. Here are some things to try:
1. Put as many key words as you can on your CV. Most recruiters are lazy and hitting ctrl f.
2. Fully utilise LinkedIn. 90% of recruitment is done there now.
3. Don’t put your age on the CV. Be honest if they ask but just try and get the meeting first.
4. Don’t make the CV too long. 2 pages max. Long CVs KILL your chances of an interview.
5. Leverage your network and try and get intros through people who know you.
That’s excellent advice.
And make sure that your CV and interview includes lots of pretentious, vacuous, management psychobabble words such as "leverage". ;-)
6. leave off any experience more than 10 years in the past, chances are it is out of date anyway. Who cares if you developed the original Multics system? Or worked with Tommy Flowers?
Just tell them you are one of the box tickets.
LinkedIn is useless for a lot of sectors moreover in many jobs, you have to fill out very long application forms listing everything from your exact date of birth to your complete job history + your graduation dates and if you lie and are caught, you can lose your job/not be hired. If you don't fill out the info on the application form, you can't save the form and enter your application. Your advice is outdated or works only for some sectors.
I hear you my friend. I worked very consistently as an IT contractor from 1997 until November 2022. I didn't get a job from then until August 2023 and things were very hard. It wasn't a high paying job and I had to sell all of my personal items to survive. I didn't last long in the job, finishing at the end of November 23. I got a new job at the end of February 24 and was due to start the beginning of April. The time during the long non working period, I didn't realise but I caught Long COVID. This culminated in me ending up in hospital over Easter 24 with pneumonia. So I went from being a healthy, fit man who exercised regularly to a wreck physically and mentally. I would say to you from my perspective to go out and walk every day. The damage of sitting in your home and looking for a job can damage you mentally first and then physically. Stay strong in your mind and keep an open attitude to trying something else from a work perspective because you have transferable skills and maybe try some side hustles from the internet. I have started my new job and I am grateful to God for this opportunity. Good luck and don't give up.
I had to give up teaching when I was 53 after 30 years in education, nearly 20 of them as a headteacher, resulted in overwhelming stress, anxiety and burnout. I drove a delivery van for Sainsbury’s, then moved up to 7.5 tonne lorries, then got a class 2 HGV licence last year and now drive an 18 tonne lorry delivering palletised goods. It’s not where I saw myself 10 years ago, but I’m fitter and far less stressed than I was, and probably earn as much as many teachers with far less hassle.
Get and stay fit, invest in yourself, retrain for a job where there are shortages regionally, then do your best and work hard. Good luck!
My wife is an FE teacher, the stress of the workload is unbelievable. She is on holiday just now but is sat in front of her lap top, as I’m typing this, completing a H & S course.
Dude, I graduated in 1990, in a recession and ended up temping as a drivers mate for Federal Express, sleeping overnight sometimes in the back of a lorry. Even then, I get not even contemplate a PGCE, as I knew teaching was too hard a job for the money, kudos to you for your service
You could maybe put on your CV (as I do), that you’re really into developing the younger folk in the organisation. I’m 53 and just got a new job which I started last week. They always look at that as a positive!! Good luck with the job search mate! Fingers crossed for you!
Are those tattoos real?
I applied for a job the other day and got an email back from the recruiter, saying that they had received over 700 CVs for the role.
If this is the state of the economy, the sad truth is most of the time your CV isnt even being reviewed
The population is way higher than used to be also, obviously makes it harder to find work, less jobs for more people.
I can 100% believe that. There's something completely rotten about it. How is it possible? Are they including candidates from overseas?? I don't fancy my odds much at 700 to 1
Population from other continents is way higher than used to be. I wonder how many applicants have been in the UK for more than a year or two🤔
I work in a warehouse doing nights, they will pretty much take anyone regardless of age, no CV required, you just have to work hard & turn up for every shift. If they see you work hard & always turn up they will give you a permanent contract. I have a permanent contract & it would be very hard for them to get rid of me now. The pay is not bad either for what it is.
Something like that could be your only option.
How old are you?
@@keithparker1346 Mid 40s
@@keithparker1346 Mid 40s
I’m a youthful 45 and I was looking to retrain but after doing very minimal research I’ve decided that retraining would be very unwise. I’m thinking of bouncing around employment agencies taking minimum wage/qualification roles until I find something or someone that could possibly notice me and offer something permanent for mutual benefit. Your comment gives me hope.
@@jaysimpson6857 good luck. I think the main problem that a lot of agency work is its stuff like factory, warehouse, kitchen and that's physically demanding...something that f-ed me up in the past I'm not keen to go back to that...I'd rather be poor and unemployed than burnt out again. But that's just me, hope it works for you
A very well articulated video and wish you every success for the future.
Thanks for sharing your story. I have worked in IT for banking systems for over 25 years with a background in AAT, I thought it would be easy to find a new position after having a break for 6 months. I have not had one decent interview. Finding it tough for even basic admin jobs.
You will find a job.I am 61 years old and recently I was hired ,because I am old and the employer had enough of young people who leave the job in 1 year.And this my highest salary I ever had.Dont worry .I am used to rejection after several interviews. Don't hurt so much now.
100% - I am 68 and cannot get a job . Have tried for the last 2 years. I have a great CV, MBA and BSc and all that and corporate career in top blue chip companies, but at this age no one is interested in me. Like you I found it really easy to get interviews mostly through recruiters all to no avail. I've started my own business in renewable energy and organic horticulture and am very busy - hoping it will pay off before I run out of money!! Good luck with your job hunting
wish you the best of luck. Corporate culture is for slaves
Why do you need a job at 68; you are on your state pension now and maybe a small private pension also? No wonder the government keeps putting up the retirement age when some people want to keep on working forever!
I agree, why do you want a job at 68, you should retire and leave jobs for younger people and I agree with the reply above, no wonder the government keep raising retirement age thanks to people like you😡
You’ve answered all your questions eloquently yourself , after 40/45 if you find yourself out of work then forget it or look at casual part time work. The population of this country is well over 100 million but they tell us that it’s close to 70 million which is a lie and contributes to unemployment.
The stats provided by the supermarkets and the sewage companies positively PROVE that the UK population is much nearer 100 million than 70 million. We are disgustingly overcrowded.
Don't spout bollocks like that. The UK population is an independently verified 67 million. Take your tin foil hat off and go touch some grass.
Yes Its much worse than we thought ... as they have been misleading us on the quantity of " enrichment " actually living in our country ! They say that there are 65 million people currently living in the UK, but there was an article written in the Independent 20 years ago by the now dead journalist Mike Baker that stated the real population based on food buying figures released to government by major supermarkets actually estimated that the population back then, 20 years ago, was more 80 million ! So i think its fair to say the population of the UK is something more like 120 million now and i guess the same for the rest of Europe, Canada and the US !
As someone younger ~ 40 yr old female working in HR and often interviewing for roles myself, I’ve noticed the job market is bad for all ages. I Interviewed recently for a new role, didn’t get it for being overqualified apparently. In all honesty I think the 3 male interviewers didn’t expect me to answer so well with more knowledge than them probably 😂 they went for someone circa 10 years younger than me, no qualifications and no industry experience, go figure
There is something in the comments I’d agree with about older people less being mouldable and it’s those companies you’re best off out of because they only use and abuse people,pay them less and expect them to put up with all sorts of toxic rubbish
Something about the world of work has changed and I’ve noticed it myself. People are less happy and I’ve also heard toxic bosses say people with young kids will work harder for their jobs because they “need the money” corporate nonsense
When you can't find a job, make one. I did and I've never looked back!
Yeah right.
Have you checked the numbers of closures and bakrupcies registered per year?
Make one... We are not in the 19th century anymore, where you could just do what ever you wanted with minimum capital.
Ever read about theory of capitalist crisis caused by overproduction and falling rates of profit? We are right in the middle of it, so, good luck with your business, you will definetely need one in the upcoming years.
I'm 55 and work in IT. The job market is completely dead at the moment. Lot's of former colleagues are currently out of work and can't find anything.
Document your journey as this gentleman is doing, create community and see what comes next.
I second this. I'm a test manager and there is simply nothing out there for me. A few roles in the City for which you need relevant experience but that's it. Since 2000 companies have been harvesting Indian staff over to the UK and that has slowly killed the IT market by lowering salaries and destroying the careers of UK nationals in the industry.
If you remember Labour introduced the “skilled worker” visa and a ton of non UK entrants came into the industry and I’ve interviewed a hell of a lot. Mostly their interview ability didn’t match their CV and qualifications. It’s almost like they had someone else sit the exam for them 😉
I had the same experience trying to get a role when I was out of work despite having a ton of experience and qualifications. Out for over a year at one point and nearly lost my house. Salary went down by 2/5ths. Retrained and went down another route paid off mortgage and started building up my pension. Hopefully will stay where I am for a few years.
@@tancreddehauteville764 I worked in Lloyd's Bank IT, their Indian contractor hire programme went full speed ahead in ~2016, they've started bringing loads of them over to the UK. My contract was terminated in 2018.
@@user-Wojciech Yes, they get them because they're cheap and will work 24/7 365 days a year as they're desperate to stay in the UK.
I think the issue of ir35 has also disrupted the employment market as companies don't want the potential liability
If you are really desperate to work and have an income, then maybe you need to lower one's sights. I worked in a professional roll for Manchester Airport until I took early retirement during COVID in 2020. I was 55 so luckily got my final salary pension. After a few months I got bored and applied for night jobs in retail, no pressure, no stress. I got a job straight away at Waitrose in Poynton, Cheshire (£15 per hour). I worked with a local charted accountant, who had been screwed over during covid. He had a big house and big bills, but wasn't afraid to get his hands dirty. He left after a few months when he was offered work again in his field. Just get out there and do any job to tied you over! There's only one objective, and that's survival!
Your not old mate I am 56 keep your head up mate all the best from expat in Perth WA
Just turned 50, Worked for the same corp business for 18 years now. Given my heart and soul to it, but the futility of it is getting to me.
Reading these comments begining to thank my lucky stars.
Heid down, keep my mouth shut - work to live!
My daughter aged 54 has struggled for over 3 months to find work. Spent all day applying for anything and everything, through local agencies and online. Prepared to do anything (legal) for minimum wage. No one ever got back to her. Then an agency she was not registered with - don’t know where they got her cv / details, contacted her about a factory job, she went for interview & got job. Turns out she is working on shop floor producing window blinds. She is the only woman amongst young men (early 20s). But guess what? Within a week of starting, she was producing more blinds than any of the young guys who had worked there a good while. MD of company always remarking how she puts them to shame.
Congrats to your daughter. I hope she is happy!
@@goodfellarecordz6534 as it turns out, she is. It’s a good company to work for, plenty of overtime and above minimum wage. But she does despair at what she sees in the younger workforce. No commitment to work. Think they are there for a social occasion. No respect for management. Always spent up within a couple of days of being paid upwards of £500 per week. They think nothing of spending £250 on a pair of trainers, then pleading poverty and subbing loans.
I bet she doesn't get more money for being more productive though!
@@RachelLancashire as I mentioned, it seems like a good company and they have recognised her productivity rate and implementing a production bonus rate. As production rates stand at the moment, seems like she will benefit financially whilst youngsters will remain on basic.
@rcqc4193 That's good. Hopefully, she will and will get on well in her new job. It's great to know there are some employers out there who recognise potential and reward people who work hard. Irrespective of age.
You are not alone! I'm 64, still got a good few years of contracting as a IT project Manager. Last contract finished in March 2024. The markets are in turmoil, 100 candidates for each role. Dont lose heart. Reach out if you want to talk.
Im 54 been in construction tarmac etc 22 years i feel its time to move on i feel im getting to old for it , imo its a young mans game , i have never had a job interview in my life, i dont know where to start ? Its all changed so much since i was looking for a new job , i wouldn't mind working for the council in the bins recycling etc im a fast walking reasonably fit and able for my age , great channel 👍🏻 new sub
At 52 , I found it so much harder to get a new job. I felt it was my age, just feels like I was invisible..... it was very depressing .
Afraid to say it but in my experience its the old classic who you know rather than what you know
UK is not a meritocracy
May I discuss this frankly? I'm the same age as you and comparably I spent many years as an IT contractor. For the sake of brevity let's say I started a business a couple of decades ago and made sacrifices which luckily are keeping me in reasonably good work so far.
I was interested in your story, but there were a few things in your story which made me raise an eyebrow, and I want to share them constructively:
- The first is that you're an accountant, which should supposedly mean you have lots of skills applicable to long-term planning, budgeting, etc... far more than the average person who could have been far more naïve about these things.
- About passing equity to children, I don't think it's a realistic plan. You give to your kids the best start you can, to provide for themselves. But if we say you'll be living in your house for another 20 years, I guess your kids may be somewhere around 50 themselves by that time... they shouldn't really need your provision at that time: if anything I'd've thought they should be starting to support you.
- And the equity in your house is going to vanish anyway if you need residential care by that stage... the idea of the state paying to keep someone in hugely expensive residential care while they sit on equity to pass on to their children seems a bit crazy to me; and of course it's not how it works even now.
- Buying a 2-bedroom semi for £45k in Leeds in 1995: yes, on the face of it you're right - according to the BoE RPI inflation calculator, if housing had risen in step with RPI over that time that house would be £90k today, and it's probably double that in South Parkway today. You were lucky enough to live through better times in general. UK society in this period also probably still benefited more from an exploitative trade relationship with other countries; the British people hadn't continually shafted themselves with their choice of leaders, Brexit, etc; there wasn't the level of inequality between super-dooper-rich getting in that position essentially by syphoning wealth from the rest of the economy; the consequence of society in general paying itself far too much for far too long hadn't properly bitten; and since the pretty devastating oil shock in the 1970s of which you and I were barely cognisant, there'd never been the succession of factors like banking crisis followed by pandemic followed by war in Ukraine. The government didn't save for a rainy day (it sold-off national assets, it squandered North Sea Oil without putting profits into a sovereign wealth fund, etc) and most people lived in the same way; and life expectancy (living in a non-working condition) wasn't so long.
- Anyway, is 6 interviews without success such a big surprise? If an average contract position averages 6 interview candidates (which sounds about right) 5 of them are always unsuccessful; in which case you're hardly even below average yet; not considering that you've been called to a high proportion of interviews. And yes, age may be a delta in all the factors... it wouldn't have to be a particularly big factor to be a clinching factor. You have said that you've got on well with interviewers, but that's not the same as presenting some convincing compensating factor of being so much better, faster, more knowledgeable, more reliable, more efficient than the people you're up against. Couldn't it as simple as that?
- And maybe, even in accountancy which is more specific to country-regulations than many other jobs, less UK people are needed in these days of better software; remote working (if a UK person can work remotely, someone in a much cheaper part of the world can do their job... and if they're half as efficient but require quarter of the pay......). And of course AI effects are coming down the line.
- You talked about there being less older people visible in companies; but also less younger people. And you're concerned (reasonably) about both because one part impacts you, and the other part impacts your kids, I guess. I certainly agree that young people have had the shitty end of the stick for a long time, in many different ways, in many countries. A few things that I offer-up just as suggestions for the 'missing' older people, in addition to what you've suggested yourself... maybe more of them have negotiated work-from-home arrangements and maybe employees are in a better position to do that than contractors; maybe a good proportion of them aren't in this "middle" position but have started enterprises of their own; and maybe... which could explain why middle-aged people are less desirable to recruiters... maybe a good number of them are off work on an NHS waiting list, waiting for treatment.
Anyway, I'm wondering a bit, that you haven't talked about shifting the paradigm of your own situation: marketing yourself directly to smaller enterprises, giving training, doing accounts as piece work, or whatever... you know your skills and should know your market better than me. You've only seemed to talk about putting the same coin in the candy machine and expecting to get the same bar of candy delivered. But is it reasonable to suppose it will continue to work like that? You say that you've been used to taking 3 months off for an extended holiday of your own choice here and there; but isn't it just a pendulum that has swung towards the other direction? We often hear of recent low unemployment, but I think that may be something of an illusion: maybe because many people have taken themselves out of the labour market; many are doing low-paid gig work for survival income; we know that many are on long-term sick. Maybe there is a squeeze of jobs at the "Golgafrincham B Arc" level, which means it's not only your age but your profession that is experiencing increased competition?
Anyway, good luck for the future. I hope one or two of these ideas may be useful.
I am 40, have adhd . I was an animator but have the hardest time finding employment, i lost my job during the pandemic, and have been living of my savings....its been hard.
I'm 57 I bought a cheap manual box truck at auction. I move stuff for people. There are all sorts of niche areas and specialisations you can get into. If you're still fit you get paid to work out, fresh air and variety, every job is different. You will quickly pick up more work than you can handle by word of mouth if you are good value. Also a truck is plan B if you become homeless.
Great comment. Thank you
Very interesting to listen to your experience, it mirrored mine almost exactly. I’d never had a problem landing a job but when I reached my mid 50’s, I was increasingly interviewed by younger and younger people who must have thought “he’s older than my Dad!” and despite my experience, knowledge and people skills the job offers dried up. I decided to sell my house, move to a cheaper (and nicer) part of the uk, live mortgage free and take a part time job as a postman. I’ve never been happier and I don’t miss my career and all the stress that went with it.
Thank you for your video! I’m 35 and rightly or wrongly, the future is always a worry to me! I work in e-commerce which is an ever changing landscape and my biggest fear is that I can’t keep up with the ever changing trends! Your insight on what the future may hold is really useful. I really hope you find your perfect fit!
I am 70 retired last year, at 69 still very fit still compete in powerlifting competitions at high level . I went to the job centre and the woman blatantly said to me I was too old, reported it to my MP they said because I wasn’t on benefits the job centre is not interested in me, all they are interested in is getting people off benefits, whether that’s getting a job or proving you are not looking. I find that pathetic, best of luck friend.
Ageism is against the law in this country.
Why do you want a job at 70?
@@misscoutts6193 Boredom, I suspect I am probably institutionalised, after working sixty hours a week than nothing hard to get used to. I think you should retire as early as you can for better result. I could have financially retired at 63 but didn’t big mistake now I don’t really know anybody and the people I do are not the same as when I was working. Still train hard every day but not the same. Wife died etc.
@@david-pb4bi yes it’s weird, I went to the job centre to look for a job, they said they don’t have any, it’s only a place to sign on. Think it’s time they changed their name.
The No jobs center 😂
we over 45 and the struggle is real. thinking of emigrating to be extremely honest.
Where to? Where wants old people?
No dole overseas
@@balance3201 😆 🤣 😂 Is that your main concern?! dole money
@@Sekekama445 no overseas doesn't have free money, health, housing etc
@balance3201 My dear fellow human being. I hate to break it to you. there is nothing that is FREE. you're paying for everything automatically. However, your life is shit and your living standards are in decline. you can go elsewhere with perhaps different systems whereby people living standards are decent. It just had to make sense, and at the moment, it doesn't in the UK. I HOPE that's a simply put for you. good luck
Never put your age or DOB on your CV and remove the last 5 years or more from it. You also do not have to disclose your age at an interview, a professional shouldn't ask. I took on a 60yo a few years ago, it was for a contract position so perfect, no training required.
63 and have the same problem(12 months almost). The employers seem to have a box to fill, so we are used as a box tick excursion. And the worst thing is that have paid taxes from the age of 15 when I left school and a born and bread citation, you find that the country of your birth will only support you for six months, then you find you can not claim any help, even to pay your bills you'll find six months your benefits will STOP. The fact that we have paid to support others for years and years when you need the help, it's not returned, and you're expected to support yourself with no help for people like us is what is just wrong. Forget any help to survive. You're expected to sell your house and car to live, so wait till your benefit ends. The real shit hits home thinking of buying a dingy and rowing it from France to claim the millions wasted on immigrants who claim to be 15 when there 25. Maybe that would work. Who knows.
Definitely go with a dingy. These days you don't even need a passport anymore if travelling with dingy🤷♂
You will get 40 pounds a week to survive and put in an army barracks or a hotel with a million others- you might reconsider the dingy
I'm in Lincolnshire and am 62 this year.. I work as a cook in a care home and have for last ten years, the pay is ok, not brilliant but it keeps me busy.. people over fifty probably need to be less picky and think about less well paid jobs.. believe me jobs in care homes in the UK are ten a penny. Probably not everyone Cup of tea but it's a job.
It's bloody hard mate. Im 57 and struggling after been made redundant last year. I have had a few jobs but sadly poor ones. I worked in the chemical industry for over 25 years.. Age is definitely a factor.
Retrain, follow something you love, something that makes you want to actually get up in the morning..Good luck..👍
Where do you do this retraining
Im in the same boat, sort of. I want to change jobs but Im not getting interviews nor offers. Sometimes not even a reply to my application. Im 54 and it seems like Im stuck where I am. The thing thats getting on my nerves most, is watching the talking heads on TV complain about old workers leaving the workplace and their demands that the old folks get back to work. Theyre completely ignoring the fact that ageism exists. Worse, pretending that it doesnt.
Enjoyed your vlog, I can relate. I'm 47 and work in IT. I too was contracting but then found the UK market had taken a nose dive. My last contract ended Dec 2023, and it took me 6 months to find another role. But I had to take the decision to move from contract to a perm role. Decent salary but nothing close to contracting rates, but I'm using this opportunity to better myself and gain further skills and knowledge.
I use LinkedIn alot and perhaps, if you have not considered, set yourself up on that. Business and recruiters keep an eye on those who right articles and a good place to network. Which also brings me onto trying to find in your local area and further a field networking groups, i.e. businesses and field specific ones. They get together and meet-ups.
Good luck mate. I was made redundant after 10 years service. At 59 I thought I may as well start a business than return to the job market. Not guaranteed but I’m happier working flat out for myself. Wish you well
Good luck in your endeavours