NEW FOR 2023 Kioti Tractor TL750 and SL750 Skid Steer Loaders!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Nathan, Sales Manager at Kenton Equipment Company going over the newest products in Kioti's lineup- SKID STEERS! We've been waiting a long time for these!
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Really appreciate how you got right to the meat and potatoes of the video no long intro or lengthy sales pitch.
Good content 🎉 need to see one in person 😊
I cannot wait to see these in person.
Lot's of room to work. That's nice! I can't wait to see a manufacturer adopt a large fin cooling package. I won't have to blow my radiator out every 4hrs if the gap between the fins is large enough to pass dust and debris!!!!
I love Kioti and own four of their machines. Here is my issue with the TL750. In my area you can get a Kubota 75-3 with high-flow for the exact same price as the TL750. With standard flow!!I think Kioti will need to be aggressive with pricing to win sales when compared to a unit like the Kubota 75-3!
You can get the SVL75-3 cab with bucket for $67,900 and 0% financing?
This is just not true. An SVL75-3 equally equipped to a KIOTI TL750 will be around 77k or more depending on dealer.
SVL75-3 is 79k in San Antonio area. The Kioti is 69k. Only diff is the Kioti doesn’t have high flow. But the standard flow is 21.9 so you may not even need high flow. Also, you can get up to a 6 year warranty with the Kioti and only 4 year with the Kubota.
Hyundai which is identical to this machine, got a quote on Hyundai brand, it was 68k. Kubota was 79k .
Interesting to know that Hyundai came in at a similar price! Is that with bucket, and with 0% financing?@@rontopping2048
So I wanted to update everyone who is interested. I just went and looked at the Kioti skid steer a few hours ago. I have to say, “It’s a beast”. It looked very well thought out and built. I’m sure it’s about equal to the SVL75-3 in toughness but it just seems a little beefier. I think the way the Kioti Lift arms tie into the rear pivot is better thought out to reduce debris build up. Cab was quiet. The cab would say is equal to the Kubota. Very basic except for one big feature that’s a game changer for many operators. And that’s the fact that in the Kioti you can set it to standard flow or high flow and then dial in the exact flow rate you need to optimize your implement. I run into this problem all the time when shopping for cutters. They might say min flow of 16 GPM and max of 20 GPM. I’m thinking about Kubota and that has a max of 17 GPM so I’d be in range but at the bottom end. So I’ll look at high flow and it says 25 GPM and max of 35 GPM, so I’m still at the bottom range on that. With Kioti I can run to the max on my implements or dial it down if things are getting too hot or I just don’t need all that power at the moment. I think that would save on fuel and extend the life of the attachment. It comes with hydraulic bucket disconnect and led lights which you pay extra for with Kubota. I raised the bucket all the way up and it raised forever. Waaaay up there. Very noticeable difference vs the SVL75 in that department. I think between the SVL75 and the Kioti, the Kioti wins in price and machine capability. My only 2 complaints are that the seat is a mechanical suspension and not air like on the SVL75. But it is a full back seat. I can put in an aftermarket air ride seat for $1,800. The other is that when I’m sitting in the seat. The Kioti is priced $1,000 less than the Kubota SVL65 in my area but financing is 1% higher so the monthly payment is exactly the same. So I’ve to decide if I want the extra size. Or if I should drive the 250 miles to the dealer for this channel and purchase from them and save $7,000. Yeah I think that’s a no brainer. I’m gonna go look at the Kubotas again but I’m pretty much sure I’ll be getting a Kioti. Besides the price, the main selling points are the much higher lift hight over the SVL75 and even the SVL95. And the higher hydraulic flow rates in standard and high. Machine to machine, Kubota really doesn’t have anything on this at all. Not one feature. If you have a Kioti dealer in your area, do your self a favor and at least give it a look. Video doesn’t do it Justice. It’s absolutely beautiful and it’s like a bull dozer.
One thing to note. I noticed on this video that may be a downside to this Kioti. It looks like the cab floor is open around the joystick and feet area. It lays down against steel frame and floor. I don’t know if they use any weather seal or anything. This skid steer may suffer from the same complaints as the -2 Kubotas. That’s noise, though it didn’t seem bad but I really need to drive it, and dust intrusion into the cab. I would have much preferred a one price cab with positive cabin pressure like Kubota went to in their -3 series. The Kioti may achieve that if they use a weather seal of some kind. I can’t tell from the video so I guess time will tell as customers start doing ownership reviews. Before I buy I will have to take a closer look or swing by the dealership again next week and ask to see. Unless anyone else reading this can answer that question.
^ Yeah what this guy said!
BTW, the floor does open up to access a few components, but the whole cab comes up as a single piece. When you're at the dealership get a 17mm socket and see how the cab comes up! It's pretty clever.
@@kentonequipment4687 I went back today. I looked at the way the cab seals around the steel floor and around the joy sticks. It has a double weather stripping seal all the way around. I think it’s gonna be air tight. I don’t think there will be issues with dust getting in. By the time I’m ready to get one mod next year, I’m sure there will be reviews out and if it’s an issue we’ll know. But the way it’s sealed to the floor, it sure looks like it’s gonna work just fine. Also I wanted to correct something. When I went back today, I actually drove the Kioti down the dealer yard and I could see the cutting edge of the bucket just fine.
Kubota blows this away. Think about your resale value too.
@@zackzander425 : There are things I like better about both. I like Kubota’s engine access to the new 75 better. I also like the larger screen in the cab and the one piece cab on the Kubota better. I also like that the horizontal bar linking the FEL arms at the rear of the machine better because they moved it up high to allow better rear visibility. I like Kioti’s longer Warrantee, higher auxiliary flow, better hydraulic response in the tracks and loader, substantially higher lift height and 10k less purchase price. Yes you’ll likely have better resale value on the Kubota but it’s gonna cost you $10,000 more up front. Resale is a mute point for me because I’m gonna run mine till it’s not worth anything anyway no matter what brand it is. I don’t own either but I have operated both for about 10 minutes each. I drove both making plenty of turns and operated the FELs on both. I liked the responsiveness of the Kioti better and the bucket height was impressive. It seemed to have more hydraulic power in the tracks and loader and the auxiliary specs higher as well. Kioti also seemed beefier to me and I believe it is a few hundred pounds heavier. Maintenance wise, a nod goes to the Kubota. If they were priced the same and offered the same Warrantee, I’d go with the Kubota, but $10,000 more translates to an extra $150 a month on my loan and 2 years less Warrantee. So I wouldn’t say Kubota blows the Kioti out of the water by any stretch. Also, keep in mind, the Kioti is a joint development between Kioti and Hyundai so they put some money into this machine. I respectfully suggest that you test both machines out and then tell me what you think. If you’ve operated the Kubota but haven’t operated the Kioti, you really have no idea. I’ve experienced both and I can say as an informed person, It’s an amazing machine as is the Kubota. My biggest disappointment with the Kioti is that high flow won’t be out for a few more years. That’s fine because I decided on getting an excavator first so that gives me a few years to decide between the two.
Very Nice High Quality Machines!
Nice. Thanks. CK2620 - N Idaho -
Great Over view.. though I would have preferred a swing door. Apparently they seal
Better, though it’s not a deal breaker. How hard is it to obtain parts ? I have a Kioti CK 40 and aftermarket support is almost none. If I should ever need anything major I have to go through Kioti and pay big $ for the Kioti brand parts. Seems there more aftermarket support for the Kubota brand products and obviously domestic brands.
Needs a buzzer to let you know you left the rear door open. 😜
I was hoping you wouldn't notice. HA!
It would be nice if they would integrate that hydraulic quick attach in the rx7320 tractor
Agreed, i love kubota anyway but its a huge selling point over kioti having a skidsteer pickup on the loader
What brand of engine is used in these machines? 20 years ago, I bought a Daewoo 1760xl. While the company was Korean, the machines were assembled in Georgia with Perkins engines and mostly all readily accessible parts. It was a very simple, very tough machine that gave me a tremendous amount of service for a very reasonable price.
Kioti uses their own engines, just like in the tractors. This is a 4cyl CRDI turbo out of the RX series tractors. It's been upgraded with better cooling for CCE use, but the same otherwise.
@@kentonequipment4687 thanks for the fast response!
Air seat available?
No sir. Suspension seat is built in. Air seat would have to be aftermarket.@@JK-ne4xy
Love your videos can this machine be ordered with high flow and what is the standard flow rate
Thanks for watching! High flow is not available yet, but is expected to release sometime late '24 or early '25 last I heard. Standard flow is fairly high, at 22GPM. High flow is projected to be 34GPM.
how much for the wheel one.. ? i have a dealer up the road im in nc zip 28018 let me know
You can see all our in stock inventory with pricing at our website here- www.kentonequipment.com/search/inventory/brand/KIOTI/availability/In%20Stock/class/Skid%20Steer
That being said, local dealers are always the best option when possible!
Can the future high flow kit be installed on the current standard flow machine? Or would it be an option from the factory only?
I asked a similar question at the last dealer meeting. From what I understand we're about a year out on the Hi-Flow version, and it's going to be a factory only option. This unit has 22gpm standard flow, which is more than enough for 90% of applications for a 74HP class size. The 34GPM available to the high flow unit will be capable of running things that are honestly too large for this machine. Just my opinion.
Dang, no hiflo? That’s a must
Not *yet*, and it's not as popular a feature as on the next class size up!
I want one
How dust free is the cabin as it is not sealed
They have pretty good weatherstripping and are well thought out. We have a lot unit we run in dirt, dust, and mud all day and it stays pretty clean. It's got over 100hrs on it without a bath.
What is the MSRP?
We don't sell at MSRP!
www.kentonequipment.com/search/inventory/location/Independence,%20KY/type/Compact%20Loaders
I really need something more in the Kubota SVL65 size range. Under 9,000 pounds. 8,600, 8,700, 8,800 lbs. Any word on if or when Kioti will release those? I’ll probably miss that boat. I need something next year.
Yeah, I don't think we'd see something like that for a long time, if ever. The Skid Steer market is expanding, but it's moving towards larger machines more than smaller. The heavier machines are so much more capable in lifting power. Kioti has plans to release a larger 95+ HP model (using the engine from the HX) next, and that's going to be a year away at least.
@@kentonequipment4687 Thanks for the reply. If Kioti sees good sales with skid steers, do you see them getting into mini excavators as well? Right now the only options are really expensive or cheap Chinese junk. It would be nice to see someone reputable like Kioti get into that market.
They're already on the future game plan, but we don't have anything solid yet. We might not see anything until 2026 or later. If they do come out, I would expect them to follow the same plan as the Skid Steer; a hair cheaper, but good high quality and product support.
@@kentonequipment4687exciting. Kioti is a great company
Could u run a mulcher on that model???
As long as it stays in the flow requirements!
This basically is a kubota alternative
How much for one of these
builder.kentonequipment.com/product/tl750-cab-track-loader/
Why did they not do a one piece sealed and pressurized cab 🤦🏻♂️
It’s because when the cab is raised, the joystick controlled don’t raise with the cab. Probably saved on cost but there’s also another advantage in that hydraulic repairs that have anything tied into the joysticks will be easier and cheaper as well. I did go back and look at the way it’s sealed. They use a double weather seal on all areas bordering the cab and frame transition. I drove a Kubota SVL75-3 the next day. They both sound about the same noise wise. I couldn’t tell a difference. The hydraulics on the Kioti are definable touchier due to the more powerful pump they are using. It’s not anything you can’t get around. Since it’s all pilot controls, just do smaller movements. I actually prefer the Kioti. When I drive the Kubota the next day it seemed like I had to move the joystick more than I would have thought to get it to do what I wanted.
There is no price on your website
It should be up tomorrow!
These are still not on webpage
We're waiting on our web developer. It's definitely been a pain. If you're curious about pricing shoot me an email- nathan@kentonequipment.com
@@kentonequipment4687 where are ya'll located?
We're in Northern KY, just south of Cincinatti OH.@@floridagunrat1625
www.kentonequipment.com/inventory/2023-kioti-tl750-cab-track-loader-independence-ky-41051-12088318i
Price?
www.kentonequipment.com/search/inventory/brand/KIOTI/usage/New/availability/In%20Stock/sort/best-match/type/Compact%20Loaders
wait a minute, you're telling me every time I want to refuel this I have to open 1 door, and then take 2 bolts off just to get access to the fuel?
No, the fuel tank access is behind the first door. All the fluids can be accessed without pulling the radiator out.
@@kentonequipment4687 Ah, thanks for clarifying!
How much?
www.kentonequipment.com/inventory/2023-kioti-tl750-cab-track-loader-independence-ky-41051-12088318i
@@kentonequipment4687 Thank you
I'm sure these will be a good machine seeing that kioti parent company owns bobcat ...these are likely just bobcat skidsteers.
Kioti is owned by Daedong. Bobcat is owned by Doosan. These are both huge companies from Korea, but they are not the same. The lead product development manager for these units was hired from Bobcat, so you'll see some design cues, but they are NOT the same company. The closest relationship they have is Bobcat buying tractors from Daedong and selling them as Bobcat tractors. I'd generalize the Kioti units as a cross between a Bobcat and a Kubota.
I saw a Hyundai skid steer on you tube. It looks exactly like the Kioti, just yellow and black. Same arms, angles, everything. I have no doubt that this is a Kioti built machine, but it appears to me that Kioti is making skid steers for Hyundai as well. Kinda like Kioti makes Bobcat’s tractors they sell. Have you heard anything about this? If not, I encourage you to look up the Hyundai skid steer on RUclips. Not knocking Kioti at all. If anything, it’s saying something if Hyundai is buying Kioti skid steers and putting their name on it. They might be adding a few features and jacking the price up but the Kioti I test drive had everything I needed.
You just messed up some welders project using that grapple to pick it up, then drugg it out and apart, ughhhh 😂
Jeff, we get 200 crates like this a year. This was a scrap pile. LOL
I'm not to sure about their hydraulics my tractor loader lowers all on it own even when running
It sounds like you have hydraulic oil blowby somewhere. It's fixable!
@kentonequipment4687 going in with it Friday hopefully I don't have to just live with it
Apparently that’s something all Kioti tractors do. Something about the style of hydraulic system on the tractor. It’s all over the Kioti groups on FB.. Now it should not lower as you work your tractor, it lowers a hair at a time when parked over night. Mine done it since day one, but it’s a couple of inches over a few days..
Its a Hyundai HT100V machine rebadged as Kioti
Daedong builds it for Hyundai. Not the other way around.
Looks like kubota when they came out in 2010. Back to the drawing board. Cab looks like tin can
Hmm. Not sure I follow. The cab feels great.
Kee oh tee, not kigh oh tee. Not too much to ask to pronounce it correctly, is it?
ruclips.net/video/6Yfvwb3mQ4U/видео.html Here's the senior product development manager who lead development going over the unit. He pronounces it my way. I guess ask him.
There is a coyote on the Kioti logo and puns like pack and paw etc are prevalent on their website. If you're going to be a condescending jerk at least get your info straight.
You can say it any way you like. The Japanese would say it that way. I’m presuming it is a Japanese product. No condescension intended.
@@richardbates7685Korean*
It's pronounced Fa Cough
Kioti... If you cant beat them (kubota), Copy them!
you’re not wrong 😂
This machine is drastically drastically different than a Kubota. Other than color, and maybe the entry handles being similar, there is nothing about it that is the same. You can't even say that the door is the same because it's shaped completely different.
😂 no high flow. They should have waited a little longer to get the whole thing right. Try to copy Kubota, CAT and Takeuchi but it will never be in the same league. He wants $65,000 for this unproven machine. Got a loaded Kubota 75-3 for 71K out the door (no sales tax).
What didn't they get right? Kubota offers it with and without, and the initial release of this is without. High flow is coming this year, and it's 6gpm higher than Kubota.
Someone seems upset.
Why no high flo, that makes zero sence, I’m out
*Yet*
Goodbye
You don’t need high flow nowadays unless you already own high flow attachments. Over the last few years they’ve made attachments run about 90% of what high flows run. With the added benefit of your hydraulics running cooler so you don’t have overheating issues. Also, on standard flow you still have plenty of power to your tracks even while you’re attachments are running.
My experience is you really need to be pushing at leas 35 gpm to run a full size forestry shredder to have good productivity. Yep you can run less but you will be waiting for it to spool up all the time. Costing you at least 30% down time.
@@hhazelhoff1363 Do you have an experience running rotary cutters. So not like the big drum type shredders. I want to be able to cut fields and brush. I want to get something to handle tall grass and something a little heavier duty that basically has axe blades for smaller trees in the 6 inch diameter range. I see plenty of those in standard flow that need around 15 gal per minute. I just don’t know anyone that even has a skid steer to ask.
@@survivalguyfyi5718 use a brush hog
Priced themselves out of their market......same price as a Kubota.....and Kubota obviously has better resale value
/fail
You can get the SVL75-3 Cab with the same options for $67,000 with bucket and 0% financing?
@@kentonequipment4687 $72,000 will do it....and resale value isnt even close between brands
And i have a Kioti NX6010 tractor for 5 years now, im not even a hater
@@kentonequipment4687I’m seeing $62,000 for the cabbed Kioti!!!! And you’re getting more standard Hydraulic flow and when the high flow comes out, which you don’t really need these days unless you already own high flow attachments, your getting more high flow. Also, you can set your machine to a certain flow rate to dial in your attachment so you use your hydraulics on an attachment that your machine would send too much flow to otherwise. Finally, I like how open and easily access it is to the engine. That’s gonna make maintenance and repairs real easy. With CAT skid steers, like all DPF systems, the DPF filter needs to be changed at 2500 hours. Well with CAT they put the DPF filter at the front of the engine, as in opposite the rear door. So in order to change it out you have to pull the engine. It’s a $10,000 job!!!! Almost forgot. It also lifts over 37 inches higher than the SVL75-3 and 31.5 inches higher than the SVL97!!! That’s crazy! How do they even do that? I’d say that’s competitive for pricing. I just wonder about resale but they are coming in cheaper than Kubota where I live. I’m looking at an SVL65 with cab, standard flow, wide track and a bucket for $70,000. So $10,000 less but more capability and probably less resale. Probably looking at 76k-78k for the SVL75-3 so comparing apples to apples Kioti is 16K-18K cheaper. That’s pretty significant. That lift height and hydraulic flow is insane.
I just checked my area in Central Texas. The Kioti TL750 is $69,000 here with standard flow. The SVL75 is $79,000 with high flow. Keep in mind, Kioti’s standard flow is higher than Kubotas standard flow so I may not need high flow on a Kioti. Also, Kioti’s Warrantee is better. Kubota’s is 2 years with an option to extend another 1 or 2 years. Kioti’s is 3 years with an option to extend another 3 years. As far as resale value goes, if you plan on keeping the machine for a long time like me, either one won’t be worth much by the time I’m ready to sell it. That’s just my opinion. And, we don’t know what the resale will be on this machine. It’s a heavy duty construction machine and not a hobby tractor so it may hold it’s value well. It will have be successful in sales and hold up over time. One thing that makes me cautious of the Kubotas is the fuel injector issues they’ve been having. I don’t know if that’s been fixed. Haven’t heard anything about it. Hopefully these Kioti’s roll out with no issues. I’m about 6 months out from buying so that gives me a little time to see how reliable they are I hope. All that said, the engine they use is all ready proven. As far as everything else goes, it’s real basic like the Kubota. Not all the computers and stuff to go wrong like Bobcat and others. You can raise the cab and see how the hydraulics are ran and you can see clear out the back of the machine from the front with the cab raised so engine access is good. I looked at the way the pivot arms are tied in. I like it. Great access to repair cylinders and clean the machine.