How I Get GREAT MIXES Using HEADPHONES

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  • @michaell.8938
    @michaell.8938 Год назад +38

    I mix on headphones 95% of the time. I own nice monitors (Dynaudio LYD8), but my room is untreated. I usually mix on Sennheiser HD600 thru SoundID correction software. I get really good results with this setup. My mixes often get played in a club setting and they sound great. Mixing and mastering is absolutely possible. Don't let haters tell you otherwise!

    • @Gabriel-l2j1r
      @Gabriel-l2j1r Год назад +1

      I can't have speakers where I live. What do you compose? I'm thinking of going with a pair of Audeze MM-500.

    • @Dane_Riazer
      @Dane_Riazer Год назад +1

      awesome advice I end up making a comment that talks about that 90-95% usage on headphones as well.

  • @danyar91
    @danyar91 Год назад +6

    i’m using Neumann ndh 30 for mixing and mastering

  • @DazzleRebel
    @DazzleRebel Год назад +11

    This video would make a great drinking game; take a shot every time Chris says "headphones" 🎧😝😉
    I mix mostly on headphones and it's all about learning the sound of them. Good video Chris.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      LOL! Ok, its' Friday, I'm trying this out tonight LOL!

    • @saracombs2908
      @saracombs2908 Год назад

      I tried it... I'm a bit tipsy now. 😆

  • @nebukad1833
    @nebukad1833 Год назад +3

    I have to use headphones as well and use audio technica ath-m50x + Sound id + cla nx same as you mentioned
    Thanks for sharing the importance of listening to train ears with references. I need to improve this in my side as my mixes are still not at the level needed.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +2

      The M50x with Sound id works very well!

  • @steinwaygoat
    @steinwaygoat Год назад +3

    Best laugh out loud moment for my day? Seeing that quick flash of Chris’s headphone collection…!

  • @80s_kid
    @80s_kid Год назад +4

    My experience as a guitarist/hobby mixer: because of the precise monitoring of the low end, I always used headphones - even when they said "it's not professional". On the other hand, the final touches and final proportions are always given to the mix on monitor speakers.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      You're right, headphones are very good to check the low end. Thanks for watching!

  • @3dogrecordingstudio628
    @3dogrecordingstudio628 Год назад +6

    I'm a hybrid headphones and monitors I bounce back and forth, depending if there is anyone home. If my family is home I use my Beyerdynamic dt 990 pro and Blue Lola's. If no one is home then it's my Focal Evo 65 monitors. You nailed all the issues I have using headphones. I thought I was just me 😂. Great advice brother. Thank you

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +2

      Lol! Glad you enjoyed this video, bro!

  • @adrianl5899
    @adrianl5899 Год назад +4

    For mixing I use AKG K612 Pro headphones with Sonarworks and previously used the more affordable AKG 240 Studio. If on a very tight budget, I would go for Superlux HD-861 ($25-ish).
    For tracking duties I have Beyerdynamic DT150s, though the original style pads don't last long!

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Good stuff, Adrian! Thanks for watching!

  • @Dane_Riazer
    @Dane_Riazer Год назад +1

    I have RME and Apollo (just got the RME yesterday) and using RME in combo with good headphones has been a God-Send. The amplification on the RME, you don't think you need it until you have it. the tracks feel more lively and things stick out a bit more which help understand if there needed a lot. Switch to Speakers for that 5-10% of mixing is great , because I feel like it gets us back into the "mixing for emotions' mode that we sometime leave and start getting too technical.

  • @jameswallace5967
    @jameswallace5967 Год назад +4

    My mastering phones are NEUMANN NDH 30's.

  • @damienowens242
    @damienowens242 Год назад +2

    Longtime headphone mixer. I use the Audeze LCD X with sonarworks which are great for low end and the Slate vsx can be useful for that too but take a bit of getting used to. I also like the status cb 1 they are great for checking the high end including sibilance. I also run into wet mixes on time's that need to be tamed and vocals can be on the loud side when checked on speaker's. But after a few tweaks you're good to go. I do have a pair of Genelec's on my desk but they are hardly ever used.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Never tried the Audeze LCD X, but have the MM-500. Thanks for watching :-)

  • @stylemusicstudio
    @stylemusicstudio 2 месяца назад

    I just like this producer,
    It’s just like he flows with my spirit

  • @JordanWhiteTechy
    @JordanWhiteTechy Год назад +2

    Once I started using sonar works my mixes became WAY BETTER! I have DT880 pros and they sound great as is, but lack bass so before sonar works I was adding way too much sub and cutting too many highs out.
    I didn't know about the room emulation plugins! I will have to demo a few out

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      The room emulation is pretty cool, especially when I'm on the road, and don't have access to my speakers

    • @joechapman8208
      @joechapman8208 Год назад

      GoodHertz CanOpener is better, imo. I really don't like room emulations - they all do weird things to the sound which fight against the job of mixing, and I feel like they are heavily sacrificing representation for their spatial illusion. CanOpener does none of that, and just gives you a good crossover like some high-end headphone amps do.

  • @metrisk8
    @metrisk8 Год назад +1

    I use Sennheiser HD 280 PRo with can opener and toneBooster Morphit for correction.
    Cheap set up but work well

  • @sierradeltamusic
    @sierradeltamusic Год назад

    Love it! Useful advice as always. As with your course where you agree its fine to mix in stereo, this is sound. I do my own music and you've helped loads, mixing and working cubase. Ive been around the houses and im now comfortable to say i have cheap monitors and a garden room as a studio. I am now more relaxed and do what i feels right and work with my limitations. I mix on headphones checking with my other pair and monitors. In stereo, with a check in mono now and again. I enjoy it more now. Next step is to get some one to mix one of my songs so i truly know how close im getting 😊
    I love the cla nx plugin but it takes too much of my processing power near the end of my mix 😢

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Glad my course helped you out! Thanks for watching!

  • @markleyland2661
    @markleyland2661 Год назад

    I always mix on headphones, mainly because I don't have a dedicated studio, my setup is in my living room which I share with the family, but I do check the mix on my monitors when I'm a good way into the mix. Both my headphones and speakers have been calibrated with Sonarworks, and I do also use the Waves NX studio plugins (thanks to you for that tip Chris). My headphones are the Beyer Dynamic DT 770 Pro. I'm still learning, but even if I do say so myself, my mixes are coming out well and have received some good reviews on Produce Like a Pro, but I'm not a professional (yet).

  • @delabego
    @delabego Год назад

    Thanks Chris, what's your opinion about dSONIQ Realphones plugin to get the room emulation? cheers

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Never tried dSONIQ, so I counld't tell

    • @delabego
      @delabego Год назад

      @@mixdownonline OK thanks Chris!

  • @robertbaker4221
    @robertbaker4221 Год назад +1

    Because of my environment I've had to mix on headphones. I use the Sonarworks reference 4 that you mentioned. Fabulous! I also use several different NX plug-ins such as the Abbey Road, CLA, Ocean Way, Germanio. All of these have EQ profiles that for my particular headphones (Sennheiser HD 280 Pro) so I know what I'm hearing is correct. I get lots of compliments on my mixes and masters from my clients. As you pointed out the main thing is to listen to everything this way.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +2

      Exactly! If you're getting good feedbacks from clients, that means your mixes translates pretty well, so good job!

    • @Take-the-Ticket
      @Take-the-Ticket Год назад

      Hey the 280's are great. I had those for a while until I got Focal Sprit Pros at $350 - the 280's and the Focals sound have almost exactly the same balance when used with Sonarworks. The Focals have a bit more detail, but if you are wondering, there is no hurry to upgrade. I love the 280's and you can great a great mix on them.

  • @edhooo2602
    @edhooo2602 7 месяцев назад +1

    dt 990 is my best choice, i never regret it

  • @KartsunWoW
    @KartsunWoW 4 месяца назад

    there are plugins that allow you to hear that bleed like listening to speakers while mixing is there not?

  • @DerekPower
    @DerekPower Год назад

    For tracking and rough mixing, Sony MDR-7506; for final mixing and mastering, Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro [OG ... 250ohm]

  • @jeanhebert1871
    @jeanhebert1871 Год назад +1

    Salut Chris. Comment va le VictoAlbertain ? . je pense acheter le Beyerdynamic DT 700 PRO X . qu est-ce que tu pense du choix. ?😃

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +2

      Lol, je vais très bien! J'ai jamais essayé les ProX mais Beyerdynamic c'est habituellement très bien!

  • @vsolic
    @vsolic Год назад +1

    Do you use any portable headphone dac/amp for cellphone!? What headphone stand is that!? Love my new Neumann NDH 30. No need for any eq correction.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      Hey Vlad, I use my audio interface, and even the DA out of my Macbook Pro M1 is not that bad

  • @jonspecter8989
    @jonspecter8989 Год назад

    I have noticed that my Beyerdynamic DT-1990 Pro are amazing and when I mix with them...these same mixes seem to sound just as good in my room with my KRK VXT 8 monitors. Either I am missing something or I am just lucky..thanks Chris.

  • @RealCbase
    @RealCbase Год назад +1

    Hi, thanks for the Video. I had doing it exactly like u tell for many years. Exept for the emulation program, because all of the solutions i testet i did not like! Also the one from waves... since december last year, than i testet the Slate VSX system, man i hate superlatives, but this was a complete gamechanger! When u take your time and learn this thing like u would learn a new room, man! I would prefer this solution over 10k monitores in a not well treatet room! I am a headphone nerd and own all of the classics, but mixing and mastering only on VSX since 2023. A special thing was also that a client of me also buy the vsx system, know we can realy listen to the nerly exact same acustics, massive time saver!😍

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +2

      That's petty cool! I never tried the Steven Slate VSX, but heard good stuff about them

  • @midiman5045
    @midiman5045 Год назад +2

    Yes headphones I use Sony MDR-V6 with Morphit on the monitor buss. Will go Sony 7506 next time.

  • @projectb3117
    @projectb3117 7 месяцев назад

    When you work completely ITB, do you need an interface when you create music with a headphone?

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 Год назад

    I love mixing on phones I have Beyer Dynamic DT 1990 Pro phones and I use them exclusively. I use my monitors for casual listening and to see how it translates in a room.

  • @Somedei
    @Somedei Год назад +1

    nice, do you use correction for the LCD-X ?

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +3

      I don't have the LCD-X, but the Audeze MM-500. I don't use them with any correction softwares. I like them as they sound like :-)

    • @Somedei
      @Somedei Год назад

      @@mixdownonline oh I see, they are so similar, thanks for replying have a wonderful weekend 🥰

  • @flumetron
    @flumetron 2 месяца назад

    How do sennheiser 650 compare to 660, apart from price (£100 dearer)?

  • @katrinaallikas2028
    @katrinaallikas2028 Год назад

    Thank you, Chris 🙌

  • @mystikrebel1089
    @mystikrebel1089 Год назад

    Chris, thanks for this as im trying to work around Sound id reference .What do you think of Audio-Technica ATH-M50X headphones to mix with ?

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      The ATH-M50X will be part of my upcoming video on 10 pair of headphones I'm gonna show up. That will come out next week :-)

    • @mystikrebel1089
      @mystikrebel1089 Год назад

      @@mixdownonline Perfect !

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 Год назад

    Hi! Why do you use the HD 650, rather than the HD 600 … I always thought the 600 have a more neutral sound … ? Thanks!! 😎👍🏼🙏🏼

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      I just don't have the 600, and never tried them :) Thanks for watching!

  • @albertoluciani8705
    @albertoluciani8705 Год назад +1

    I've bene using my ath r70x for years now and i dont really miss monitors

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      These a pretty good open back headphones...man they a re light!

  • @technodust7833
    @technodust7833 Год назад

    Hey! Is sony mdr 1a a bad choice for mixing techno in my untreated bedroom? I use them...

  • @arturbomert9877
    @arturbomert9877 Год назад +4

    The headphones do not have natural headroom, so it needs to be created in order to simulate the behavior of regular speakers. Therefore, it is best to reduce the input signal to -18dB. This way, every sound in the headphone space will not blast from all directions like stereo, but will be directional. A good headphone preamp takes care of this, and if there is an option for a PAD on the interface, I also recommend using it as a natural space limiter.

  • @Musician_Robert
    @Musician_Robert 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video Chris. I’m curious, are you from Montreal? I sense an accent in your voice.

  • @RichLunaMusic
    @RichLunaMusic 2 месяца назад

    I bought the ATH-M50Xs because I heard they're pretty neutral. I think studio monitors would help out too but I just go to my car and check if I need to.

  • @LloydMajor
    @LloydMajor 8 месяцев назад

    Great class...Thank you!

  • @tonytbd6232
    @tonytbd6232 Год назад

    Once again - thanks for your info. Longtime been told to have decent or better monitors, but like so many have told me not to use headphones - great to know headphones are actually not a bad idea.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      There's always pros and cons, like their is with speakers. Thanks for watching!

  • @fl4bberg4sted
    @fl4bberg4sted 5 месяцев назад

    Very helpful ngl 🔥

  • @doubleuseven
    @doubleuseven Год назад

    How about ear fatigue? I try to listen on low volume, but after a while I want to brighten stuff up.
    I check the bass with headphones, that's it. I don't trust my ears to mix totally yet.

  • @hansdorenstouter3813
    @hansdorenstouter3813 Год назад

    Can't wait to watch your special about your experience with various models! Please hurry up😄 I am using the Hornet headphone correction plugin (wich costs just a few dollars).

  • @micknevey1856
    @micknevey1856 Год назад +1

    Hi Chris Been following your Videos for a while now. Would Love to hear your thoughts On the Steven Slate VSX Headphone system , I do own one of these. but to be honest not sure if it actually works , I do have a soundproof drums studio but feel that the drums affect the sound coming out of the speakers and without packing away my drums every time I want to mix. I am looking for the best solution for Headphone Mixing, Would love to hear you thoughts on the above Cheers Mick

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Unfortunately, I never tried the Steven Slate VSX, but heard good stuff about them

  • @richwebster117
    @richwebster117 Год назад

    Great video Chris! I have an attic room so frequency response is all over the shop. I get round that by mixing on low volumes using my Adam’s studio monitors and recently bought some better dynamic dt-990 pros which are AMAZING! Think I’ll invest in the sonar works - I’ve heard loads of great stuff about it.

  • @rolarocka
    @rolarocka Год назад

    Nice video 🎉
    Im thibking of using fe the 650 because it sounds good listening to music and for electronic music production sometimes too. With sonarworx then as plug-in for the flatter frequency response 🤔🙌

  • @MOMirrors
    @MOMirrors 8 месяцев назад

    I actually use Neuman NDH 30 + CLA Nx. I get good results.

  • @AIMusicArtWriting
    @AIMusicArtWriting Год назад

    Chris love what you do, I too work with headphones and then try to get a feel for what my mixes sound like through Sonarworks calibration to monitors! Quick question, when you transferred to your new computer, were you able to move the speaker and headphones Sonarworks Sound ID calibrations over to your new computer relatively easy?

  • @vaclav397
    @vaclav397 Год назад

    Thank you 👍👍👍

  • @sfx1674
    @sfx1674 Год назад

    Thanks for confirming cause I have been toying with the idea for a while and since there is no access to neutral acoustics anywhere near at the moment I have no choice but to go with that. But I have a question:
    Is it a good idea to also use some of the available mastering tools like stuff from Izotope for getting a "second opinion" just to make sure that the headphone's curve is not playing tricks on the ears?

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +2

      The iZotope tools are great, and nice to work with, but I also like to compare my mixes with a reference mix(es)

  • @VersatileLifestyle1
    @VersatileLifestyle1 Год назад

    You're 💯% right I had all these issues in the same way.

  • @olibarahosasa1137
    @olibarahosasa1137 Год назад +3

    I added Slate VSX to the headphones collection.
    GREAT RESULTS I AM OVER THE MOON

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      I never tried the Steven Slate VSX, but heard good stuff about them! Glad you like them!

  • @Yeremiaverdika
    @Yeremiaverdika Год назад

    How about in ear monitor master?

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      Not a big fan on using inear monitors for mixing.

    • @robertbaker4221
      @robertbaker4221 Год назад +1

      In ear monitors are great for tracking. I only have one room for tracking and mixing. In ear monitors are great for this because they really block out the background sounds well. Mine are custom molded from InEarz audio. (p350's). They have about a -26db attenuation compared to basic ear plugs at -16db to -19db attenuation.
      They are not good for mixing because I'm can't apply an equalization to them. That's why I rely on my HD 280 Pro's and Sonarworks Reference 4.

    • @Yeremiaverdika
      @Yeremiaverdika Год назад

      Thx for your explanation master

  • @unstoppablesoundstudio7367
    @unstoppablesoundstudio7367 Год назад

    I use scarlet headphones super cool 😎

  • @mcdebugger
    @mcdebugger Год назад +1

    I'm using dSONIQ Realphones with my pair of Sennheiser HD650s and absolutely love it! I use VST version in Cubase (Control Room) and WaveLab (Playback section) and Standalone version for casual music listening/video watching/etc.
    It provides both frequency curve correction and crossfeed/HRTF/room emulation. It also have many different mix check presets (a car, sets of studio monitors in real studio room (with impulse response measured), club, different types of speakers (Yamaha NS-like, cubes, near/mid/far field monitors, open/closed headphones, earbuds, etc).
    The new version (2.0) to come soon with even more great features, better simulation and new studios.

  • @braxal6983
    @braxal6983 Год назад

    I am looking for a solution other than spending 3k-4k on room treatments. It sounds like I can do this on good headphones. Also with Dolby Atmos this can solve the issue without having to spend a ton on darn speakers and everything else that comes with it.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Now mixing Dolby Atmos on headphones is something else. Theirs already some studio headphone companies that are working on a Headphone Atmos immersive design for mixing. To be continued...

  • @enricmarshal
    @enricmarshal Год назад +1

    I always use headphones the make last decisions on vocals levels. It's easier to find the perfect balance of the main vocal in my opinion

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      Pretty cool! Thanks for watching!

    • @enricmarshal
      @enricmarshal Год назад

      @@mixdownonline Thanks for the info too!

  • @hertzouttahell
    @hertzouttahell Год назад

    Inside Out Is the Key 👍

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Definately

    • @Y42
      @Y42 Год назад

      I always roll inside out! 👆
      oh wait… 😅

    • @olibarahosasa1137
      @olibarahosasa1137 Год назад +1

      @@Y42 having one in my hand 🎉

    • @Y42
      @Y42 Год назад

      @@olibarahosasa1137 now I can say: SAME! 😂

  • @Y42
    @Y42 Год назад

    I am also using the CLA NX.
    funny site note - Chris Lord-Alge could’ve cleaned out the cables on the left side of the console. makes me go 😡
    but I’m a clean freak haha 😂

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад +1

      LOL! I never noticed, now I will only see that, thanks to you LOL!

    • @Y42
      @Y42 Год назад

      @@mixdownonline hahaha sorrryyyy 🙈

  • @GeorgeAmodei21
    @GeorgeAmodei21 Год назад

    Very true! :)

  • @TheRobGuard
    @TheRobGuard 11 месяцев назад

    Easier to hear on headphones without hearing the room reflections. But at least need decent headphones that one "know" how they sound (bassy, midrange focused or a bit bright). Takes maybe a few months to learn new headphones. Reference tracks is always needed imo to compare your lows, loudness, etc.

  • @TrapBoiFuse561
    @TrapBoiFuse561 Год назад

    4:45 SPL crossfeed sound like you are using monitors for real

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      That's a monitor controller from what I can see? Looks pretty cool!

    • @TrapBoiFuse561
      @TrapBoiFuse561 Год назад

      @@mixdownonline SPL Phonitor One D cost like $799 it’s for head phones i know the one you are talking about tho but this is what you need bet u won’t regret it

  • @anthonyquevedo474
    @anthonyquevedo474 6 месяцев назад

    Why doesn't anyone ever mention what levels to listen at to prevent hearing damage?

    • @eduardofernandez2697
      @eduardofernandez2697 4 месяца назад

      Rule of thumb. You should be able to talk with a person sitting 1m away. Open backs help a lot too. Tech wise, if you're using monitors you get an spl meter and make sure you're at 85 spl on your sweet spot. But the 1m rough idea works the same

  • @MOSMASTERING
    @MOSMASTERING Год назад +1

    Been using Slate VSX for 2+ years now and loved them from the beginning. They really are game changing.
    But you have to learn to use them.
    I flick between different rooms. Once its balanced in all rooms (or my 4 faves) then it translates everywhere.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Cool stuff! I never tried the Steven Slate VSX, but heard good stuff about them

  • @ardierr.2525
    @ardierr.2525 Год назад

    hello, is it bad for our ears to spend to much time with headphones?

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Not really, like mixing on studio monitors, taking breaks will give you better results, and perspective

  • @charlesmiousse4890
    @charlesmiousse4890 Год назад

    les NX de Waves ( Abbey Road 3 et CLA ) ont été un 'game changer" pour moi! Je n'ai pas la chance de pouvoir travailler dans un environnement sonore idéal alors c'est un gros plus pour faire de meilleurs mixs!

  • @vektacular
    @vektacular 5 месяцев назад

    I know how to get a great mix with headphones…..throw them away! lol, no, kidding….im trying to implement them.

  • @VincentVegardSvart
    @VincentVegardSvart Год назад

    Cla Nx and some bunch of headphones 😅

  • @Evoke-Chaos
    @Evoke-Chaos 8 месяцев назад

    you lost me there 4:40

  • @CalvinX
    @CalvinX 9 месяцев назад

    HEADPHONES

  • @Anorectic.Bumblebee
    @Anorectic.Bumblebee Год назад

    How much I hate the godda** Ridley Piano Method. Even did some research on the guy and found out he is a full blown Scientologist.

  • @Frontier2000AnoDomin
    @Frontier2000AnoDomin Год назад +1

    The older I get, the more I think this yet another auidio issue that is an obsession with no possible empirical basis. Unless you are mixing/mastering for a specific MASSIVELY commercialised consumer hardware configuration (and probably one that itself uses headphones or the consumers'own environment will have a substantial effect on the experience) these tyoes of arguments are scientifically academic.
    Every different consumer reproduction system and environment is going to provide a different experience. Unless your own mixing/mastering environment and skills are way off, you really are dealing in subjectivity.
    How many tracks, on the same album have you heard where in one case you have a deep kick and the bass sitting in the mids and another track with the opposite? And both tracks still sound fantastic as a combination of all the elements. The same with hiw you mix and master and how your consumers consume. They may like some tracks in THEIR cars and prefer others on THEIR home entertainment system etc. One size will never fit all. There is NO holy grail. It more about the complete combination of EVERYTHING that goes into that track that bonds with the consumer.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Год назад

      Yes, I agree. That's why I like to reference a lot when mixing on headphones , monitors, and checking on other types of speakers so I can get my mixes to translate well everywhere. A mix translates well is always according to the type of system of course.