TAIGA KEYBOARD REVIEW - An Expandable & Innovative Analog Synthesizer!

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
  • Taiga Keyboard is a semi-modular synthesizer by Pittsburgh Modular that combines east coast and west coast synthesis into something unique! Sponsored by DistroKid. A great way to upload and release your music. Use my link and get a discount distrokid.com/vip/bobeats
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    CONTENT
    00:00 What is the Taiga Keyboard?
    02:30 Song demo
    03:57 I/O, unboxing, build & feel
    04:20 Oscillators & Patch examples
    07:00 Filter explained
    09:21 My favorite feature! Dynamics module
    10:20 My least favorite feature! Echo module
    10:40 Customize your Taiga with eurorack modules!
    14:50 Not just for eurorack nerds!
    15:20 Keybed, aftertouch, ARP & few other things
    15:40 It is duophonic!
    17:18 What is a Lowpass Gate & is it useful beyond Buchla bongos?
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Комментарии • 203

  • @BoBeats
    @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +2

    You can check availiability and prices here:
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  • @joklhopsmusic
    @joklhopsmusic 2 месяца назад +5

    Just ordered one of these after waffling on the desktop Taiga for a bit, the keyboard edition put me over the edge. Anyway, now I'm binging youtube and obsessing over it until arrives, this was a great video :) Thanks

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now 2 месяца назад +18

    Greetings from Pittsburgh! I have the West Pest. I get a vicarious thrill knowing these are my neighbors. They make great sounding synths and this is one of them! Ha ha... "Analog is important."

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now 2 месяца назад +14

    The most interesting part of this video to me in many ways as an amateur is the clear demonstration of sound changes, articulating and identifying what you are hearing, around 17:20 and that section forward. I appreciate hearing and seeing a professional turn knobs, saying "hear this frequency go up, hear this go down" if that makes sense. Basic ear-eye-knob education vis a vis synth sound design.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +6

      Glad you found it helpful!

  • @stephenp515
    @stephenp515 2 месяца назад +8

    This is the best explanation and demonstration of the Dynamics Module that I've seen. I have the desktop version, and the Taiga's dynamics controls are a little more complex than the West Pest's. It was great to see (& hear) how the DYN CV knob & ADSR 2 work with Response & LPG resonance. Thanks Bo!

  • @bugglebegger143
    @bugglebegger143 2 месяца назад +5

    Taiga has steadily grown on me every month I've owned it. At first I was excited but grew puzzled and convinced I couldn't make anything good with it. But every time I dive back into it, I realize more and more how utterly powerful it is. I would honestly say it's a pretty "advanced" semi-modular that you really do need to understand how the routing works. I wouldn't actually recommend it for a beginner, it's a bit esoteric to *really* get your money's worth. Specifically, I'd say that the pre-amp distortion and gain adds a ton, and you really need to use the dynamics area with the filter before it really starts to fully and totally "kick ass." Which it can do, just not necessarily right out the box. I agree that the envelopes could use more nuance in the shorter ranges.

    • @AveragePicker
      @AveragePicker 2 месяца назад

      "At first I was excited but grew puzzled and convinced I couldn't make anything good with it. But every time I dive back into it, I realize more and more how utterly powerful it is. " Pretty much sums up my experience as well. I went from super excited to regretful purchase disappointed, then thought it must be me and realized yes, yes it my short comings with it.
      " I wouldn't actually recommend it for a beginner," --Yeah...it would take a special kind of beginner to start with this and not be WTF. It is already pretty WTF on its own.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      Agreed. Not a particularly beginner friendly synth. It is easy to start with but takes effort to master

  • @BF-up5xw
    @BF-up5xw 2 месяца назад +6

    This is a great review, thank you! I have the original Taiga Desktop, and the Attack has been altered on the Taiga Keyboard in response to customer requests. So, the first half of the attack is more fine grained in order to facilitate more precise settings for a relatively shorter attack. Hence why you have to turn the knob into the second half to get a slow attack.
    I will also say that you called the delay bad, rather than saying that you personally didn't like it. I don't know if you did that deliberately to make a specific point about what a 'good' delay is. I like the BBD delay on the Taiga for three main reasons. It doesn't go very long, which offers a lot of shorter variation. This enables you to use it for reverb-like and chorus-like sounds; this makes it much more versatile - although it doesn't do really long delays. Second, it has that low frequency, lo-fi sound of a BBD. Set it to the shortest delay with no feedback, and 100% wet, and you then have a whole different tone to play with. So, to me, the value of the Taiga BBD to the user depends on whether you want that range of options. I find it much more useful than including a digital reverb (which I probably wouldn't use). And a spring reverb would likely add to the cost and size.
    But what do I know?!? The Taiga is actually my first full-featured hardware synth. And you consistently make much nicer sounds with it than I usually do!

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +5

      Thank you for the comment!
      I thought the attack was different from the Taiga desktop. And great if its a change ppl want. Like I said, its a preference thing. I love how snappy it can get!
      Re: BBD
      Some good points absolutely! my reason for not liking it is that for a large % of keyboard players, I believe the echo module to be an odd choice. Its difficult to use for sounds that arnt a bit experimental in nature. I never use it unless I want to make odd sounds. And the keyboard will, i think, be interesting to alot of new users. Ppl who might expect something a little more vanilla. But thats just my 2 cents.
      Appreciate your comment! Its always good with counterpoints and perspectives

  • @alm5966
    @alm5966 2 месяца назад +6

    Now that is pure GAS! I've not seen something that screams 'buy me now' as much as that for a long time.

  • @NoirEtBlancVie
    @NoirEtBlancVie 2 месяца назад +13

    Great review Bo, another proper synth, I never seen you be so hard on a delay before 😉 Spot on, the oscillators and filters are soooo good!
    As for your video, great job pointing out certain aspects of how performers can totally trick people’s ear, making anything sound great, I think you did a good job of keeping it beginner and advanced user friendly!
    I totally didn’t see this synth coming but happy they sent you one!

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks buddy! Appreciate you. Come to Superbooth and just hang. You would love it!

  • @mootbooxle
    @mootbooxle 2 месяца назад +3

    I like this thing a lot already. Cool design!

  • @elwhagen
    @elwhagen 2 месяца назад +4

    Just the looks of it is soooo cool! And the sounds is really awesome. Love it!

  • @synthsamuraiproductions
    @synthsamuraiproductions 2 месяца назад +3

    This one is a beauty for sure. Great demo

  • @rabbitnoize
    @rabbitnoize 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m pretty sure many synth designers will bring the eurorack integration to their new designs. Pittsburgh did it again!

  • @jonridley
    @jonridley 2 месяца назад +2

    I think for what it does the cost is about right, it’s providing much of what you get with a Moog matriarch for example but for about £600 less (sans delay) The icing on the cake is that the semi Modular nature allows for some interesting combinations /linkage to a larger Modular.

  • @awpMusic1
    @awpMusic1 2 месяца назад +2

    I have the original Taiga and use it a lot but this is very tempting! Very useful video.

    • @awpMusic1
      @awpMusic1 2 месяца назад

      Keyboard arriving this coming week - having to sell the desktop though to move things around to make way for the keyboatd.

  • @unisonosc1617
    @unisonosc1617 2 месяца назад +3

    looks really nice, i'm on a monosynth kick and likely needs it.

  • @Judasz696
    @Judasz696 2 месяца назад +6

    Very original and interesting synth.
    I would buy this over any expensive og when my gas is on. The thing is we need new synths like this.

  • @meipr
    @meipr 2 месяца назад +6

    I really like the idea of being able to put whatever modules you want in a synth like this. I quite like the sound of it. Nice one!

    • @infn8loopmusic
      @infn8loopmusic 2 месяца назад +1

      I agree this really is an excellent concept. As a person that spent the last week deciding between getting a second semi modular or start building a full eurorack...This seems like the perfect 'middle ground'. Ironically, I ordered a Korg ms-20 mini yesterday. The theory is confirmed true. The moment that you've got every piece of gear you need, something new comes along that might do it a tiny bit better 😂

    • @infn8loopmusic
      @infn8loopmusic 2 месяца назад +1

      I would still be worried that this would be a gateway to spending tens of thousands on eurorack though 😂

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      definitely a risk. The modular rabbit hole goes deep.

    • @meipr
      @meipr 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeatsI know. When I started out exploring eurorack, I told myself I will only get this one case. Here we are, three full cases later… 😂

  • @ichigen511
    @ichigen511 2 месяца назад +11

    "don't go buy a bunch of modular on credit, ok?" best advice to someone new to the scene. ;)

  • @klstay
    @klstay 2 месяца назад +4

    For me the bucket brigade fits perfectly with the design over something digital. Of the modules I have a Joranalogue contour 1 & select 2, Instruo 1f & vinca, and a Steve's MS-22 would go in the slots. The extra coin for bigger knobs, additional LFO, multi-function mod wheel, and keybed with arps and AT seems not TOO overpriced...

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      I feel you. These things are usually a matter of preference. About taste. The delay works fine, its just the sound and lack of versatility I don’t like.

  • @bertokleine280
    @bertokleine280 Месяц назад +1

    Watched this vid for the second time,,,,,,
    Gonna get one tomorrow……..
    O by the way your channel is in comparison to other a fresh breath of calming explanation and reason keep up the good work ❤

  • @tonalaxis
    @tonalaxis 2 месяца назад +3

    Sounds great!

  • @e-conrecords4665
    @e-conrecords4665 2 месяца назад +2

    This synth sounds very nice!

  • @gomogda7
    @gomogda7 2 месяца назад +1

    Great review. This thing sounds amazing! Not sure if I need another mono synth (already have a sub37 and matriarch), but some of the functionality really sound unique. GAS GAS GAS!!

  • @stefanpaulus7594
    @stefanpaulus7594 2 месяца назад +3

    Sounds and looks great.

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper 2 месяца назад +3

    North coast synthesis is the best. Papoose Mukaluk and Seal Eye

  • @bliss000
    @bliss000 2 месяца назад +4

    They missed a trick with this synth. A little three way switch near the mod/pitch wheels switching between mono/duophonic/3 note paraphonic. The perfect 3 note pad machine :(

  • @alexgrunde6682
    @alexgrunde6682 2 месяца назад +1

    I figured it was just a matter of time before a manufacturer made a semi-modular synth with a built-in mini-skiff. A lot of people interested in eurorack just want a customizable, knob per function synth, not a whole Eurorack system. So a semi-modular with built-in “add more customizing” makes sense.

  • @visisydandthevoid
    @visisydandthevoid 2 месяца назад +3

    Love the sound of taiga

  • @jaimeross7507
    @jaimeross7507 2 месяца назад +2

    Was the " Boys don't Cry " for my husband...... because he Cannot Afford this piece of Gear?!!?!......Great Demo anyways!!!! ❤.

  • @solarj
    @solarj 2 месяца назад

    The sound of analog synths with reverb is just scratching my soul where nothing else can..

  • @robthebloke
    @robthebloke 2 месяца назад +1

    Are the pitch CV jacks normalled together? Or do you still need to use an additional mult?

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 2 месяца назад +3

    Coincidentally a couple of weeks ago I was looking for their Lifeforms SV-1 and was surprised they didn't make it anymore. This is is completely different.

  • @Myexpectationsarerealistic
    @Myexpectationsarerealistic 2 месяца назад +1

    I like it. That's a reasonable price as well.

  • @bjornark
    @bjornark 2 месяца назад +2

    Nice review! Pretty cool with that eurorack part as well. I feel that credit card statement... Tja! ;)

  • @wedream2
    @wedream2 2 месяца назад +1

    What a great idea to have a semi-modular keyboard synth with all the basic normalized connections and space for eurorack modules. I wonder if Pittsburg Modular will make an extended keyboard version with more eurorack space.

  • @brumd
    @brumd 2 месяца назад +1

    Bo, thank for this review (I already have a Taiga, and made it the centre of my eurorack case, mainly to add more modulation options), There is 1 important thing when explaining the Dynamics Module that you are missing: you keep using the 2nd ADSR when in LPG or LPG&pluck mode, but this is not necessary and not ideal. To get the best plucks you'll get by clicking the "edit"+"mode" buttons to put it in 'MIDI mode': the ADSR-2 is no longer used, but instead a super short MIDI trigger, this gives the best pluck (and frees up the ADSR). Yes, I agree, the manual (at least the original one) does a poor job of explaining this clearly. It was only after reading the patch example manual that I understood this. Try it out, you'll like it.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      Ah but you see, im not trying to get the best plucks. The whole challenge to me is: How do I utilize the LPG (in either mode) with the envelope. Because the envelope does add a lot of articulation. Especially when playing on a keyboard. The question I was asking myself was ”ok, so what does the lpg add when you use it for a more standard sound?”.
      I have tried turning of the midi, and I agree that for that super plucky west coast sound its the best!
      Appreciate the comment as I am sure there’s many who find all of this tricky. I did too for a long time!

  • @MyReasonToPlay
    @MyReasonToPlay 2 месяца назад +6

    Grand Mother on steroids.

  • @ilearncode7365
    @ilearncode7365 2 месяца назад +2

    The lows still sound clear, which is nice. Other synths just sound like a garbled mess when you play a low note. I wonder what that issue is called

  • @djsun1
    @djsun1 2 месяца назад +2

    This thing looks and sounds a beast lucky guy :)

  • @AdamsOlympia
    @AdamsOlympia 2 месяца назад +4

    Would be nice if the module bay were big enough for a Zoia Euroburo .. That'd be one helluva powerful combo.

    • @alex-r-t
      @alex-r-t 2 месяца назад +1

      Sounds like the Taiga + Euroburo + NiftyKeyz would work then - I'm thinking about the same thing 😉

  • @sibbyeskie
    @sibbyeskie 2 месяца назад +5

    As an analog sound aficionado this sounds pretty damn good and has a lot of design options. I just don’t understand that visual style however. Could be iconic with a really tasteful design.

  • @rjadamz9117
    @rjadamz9117 2 месяца назад +2

    I just read about this today and realized how bad I want this and how long it’s gonna take me a while to save. Then as soon as I turn on RUclips I see Bobeats with a bigass smile holding one. Smh.

  • @Hrotti
    @Hrotti 2 месяца назад +3

    Bo, keep the Bucket brigade at low speed, use it like a chorus by modulating the speed, then you're in business...

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah. That works. I just want a more vibrant delay or reverb that fits for playing keys.

  • @supernatural802
    @supernatural802 2 месяца назад

    im thinking this with a 1010music Bitbox mk2 eurorack module and just enough room left for Erica Synths Pico DSP. ummm FUN! so many cool possibilities with that eurorack bay.

  • @gmmigge
    @gmmigge 2 месяца назад +2

    Partly sponsored by Biltema! 😆 Hehe I think all Swedes have had such a pen at least once in their life! Great video as usual Bo👍

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks! And I dont have one such pen. I have 20!

  • @michelnielsen2855
    @michelnielsen2855 2 месяца назад +1

    I can definitely hear my west pest somewhere in there.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely! They share a similar tone

  • @zacharyreutlinger7623
    @zacharyreutlinger7623 2 месяца назад +1

    Is think I’d first fill the empty space with utilities like buffered mults, function generators, maybe some vcas, then an analog chorus, maybe end with a reverb.

  • @NigelMarston
    @NigelMarston 2 месяца назад +3

    I want one and I can't even play the keys (drummer) AND I already have a number of analogue and VA keyboards (I use them to play "with" and to write tracks). It looks so much fun. Isn't that what it should be all about?

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      Agreed! Hardware is about the fun factor

  • @marcbrasse747
    @marcbrasse747 2 месяца назад +1

    Great sounds. Interesting concepts, good looks. My only complain would be: why not make it 3-voice paraphonic in stead of duophonic?

  • @juansebonillas
    @juansebonillas 2 месяца назад

    Hey! I want yo know your opinion about the Ableton Push 3 the autonomous one, if the goal is to not to use a computer can you consider it a dawless option ?

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      I wouldnt recommend it for dawless over mpc or maschine+ just yet. Its very good, dont get me wrong, i just feel that its best viewed as ”taking ableton with you on the go”.

  • @phelper4554
    @phelper4554 2 месяца назад +1

    I can’t understand that they put the patchbay on the original desktop version on the bottom otherwise I would have bought it to sit in front of my modular… this time they do it right but put a keyboard on to it which I don’t need 😅

  • @cresshead
    @cresshead 2 месяца назад +5

    the desktop version is like 1/2 the price, you lose the lkeys and the euro rack slot.. but you keep everything else and save £600

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +4

      Yepp. Its a solid alternative! I think its different product types for slightly different demographics. The desktop unit has a very eurorack/modular feel. This feels more like a GM or Matriarch

    • @Goldlion973
      @Goldlion973 2 месяца назад

      Losing all that doesn't make for much of a saving 😢

    • @cresshead
      @cresshead 2 месяца назад

      a keyboard and a hole.... um i disagree@@Goldlion973

    • @Daphoid
      @Daphoid 2 месяца назад

      True, assuming you want to lose that stuff in the first place. If you do - that's 100% fine; but then this product wasn't for you in the first place (which is also fine).
      The folks spending the higher price tag clearly want the stuff you mentioned they'd loose. The smaller / less featured version isn't automatically the best for everyone just because it's lower cost.

    • @iswm
      @iswm 2 месяца назад

      you lose an lfo and the modwheel mod source also. but if you're into eurorack already that's not a big deal anyway. oh, and you lose the bigger knobs too.

  • @charliecarrillo9796
    @charliecarrillo9796 Месяц назад

    which Arturia plugin gets closest to this ?

  • @raul0ca
    @raul0ca 2 месяца назад +1

    Between this and the Niftykeyz I wonder what the relationship between Pittsburg Audio and Cre8audio is

  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit 2 месяца назад +11

    this synth is a trap. the ability to add modules? Wallets will be harmed.

  • @fredscallietsoundman9701
    @fredscallietsoundman9701 2 месяца назад

    How stable is the oscillators' tuning? Stable like a modern keyboard synth, or unstable like a modular synth?

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +3

      I would say fairly stable. I have left it on for several hours and no big issues. And often when Ive left a patch dialed in and turned back on the tuning was almost as I left it. Which I feel is pretty good for a synth like this

  • @audiostyler
    @audiostyler 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video! I have a question: I'm new to the modular (semi mod) game. Does anybody know if I could also put let's say a Behringer Victor (wavetable synth) into these slots? Thanks!

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      I think you should be able to. See no reason why not. The victor is small enough from what I know

    • @audiostyler
      @audiostyler 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeats Great, thanks so much Bo! Really appreciate your help!

    • @audiostyler
      @audiostyler 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeatsJust bought one via your link. Thanks again!

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      Oh wow! Thank you!! That supports what I do a TON@@audiostyler

    • @audiostyler
      @audiostyler 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeats No problem, that's great:-)! Love your channel!

  • @ThierryMaillardTV
    @ThierryMaillardTV 2 месяца назад

    hello what eurorack you used next to Metamorph? please thank's

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      Divkid Ochd and a Doepfer Multi i think it was

  • @stevenSouthpole562
    @stevenSouthpole562 2 месяца назад +1

    Now i want them to bring out a desktop version of this 🤣

  • @FotoxBr_nl
    @FotoxBr_nl 2 месяца назад +3

    Is'nt it possible to put the semi modular Taiga in a Nifttykeys keyboard case for roughly the same price now ?

    • @rayderrich
      @rayderrich 2 месяца назад

      My thoughts too, as I purchased Taiga a couple of weeks ago :)

    • @videotrexx
      @videotrexx 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, one can put the desktop Taiga into a modular setup, it's 60 HP.

    • @rayderrich
      @rayderrich 2 месяца назад +1

      I have it in my Arturia RackBrute, but the question here is will it fit in the NiftyKeyz, creating somewhat the same as this desktop version. Partly it will, but the Taiga keyboard has a few things (like fine tuning) that my desktop does not. Still I might like NiftyKeyz better. Will see.

  • @jean-fabricevernet8947
    @jean-fabricevernet8947 2 месяца назад +1

    It sounds gorgeous and makes a lot of sense though you'd have to get used to the aesthetics. Love Pittsburgh stuff. Strange they couldn't have used a better delay on this since they're so good at delay modules.

  • @ErichNolanBertussi
    @ErichNolanBertussi 2 месяца назад +6

    oh no sweet! they do have a desktop version for almost half the price! sweet! hmmmm

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +2

      Yepp! I reviewed it a year or so back

    • @ErichNolanBertussi
      @ErichNolanBertussi 2 месяца назад +2

      @@BoBeats I have to catch up bo I tuned out in 2021 when I move to Quebec City. I moved here with a very distracting partner you could say. ;)

    • @Goldlion973
      @Goldlion973 2 месяца назад

      No expansion abilities on the desktop version

    • @videotrexx
      @videotrexx 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Goldlion973 the desktop can be removed from its case and installed in a eurorack setup, so not sure how you can say "no expansion abilities" just because they didn't make the case larger and leave empty space on one side to install eurorack modules like the keyboard version, where the width of the keyboard left empty space for modules.

  • @spdycar13
    @spdycar13 2 месяца назад +1

    Sold my Taiga but this may make it worth revisiting. Looks and sounds great! I’m curious, what makes this better than the Moog Grandmother?

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      Perhaps not better, just a good alternative!

  • @DaveDaves
    @DaveDaves 2 месяца назад +2

    Cool! I've been thinking for a while that there's got to be a wonderful way to easily integrate just 1 or a few Eurorack modules within a non-Eurorack system (to get some of the benefits offered by modular expandability/customization, without having to "go modular" fully. They've done a wonderful implementation and it sounds quite nice. Great video.

  • @MauricioVives
    @MauricioVives 2 месяца назад +1

    Given your past interests... this (without auxiliary modules) vs. Korg Minilogue XD?

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      Such a different synth! XD more versatile and easier to use in a wider range of music styles. Its also 4 note poly. The Taiga is more comprable to Sub25, 37, Grandmother and Matriarch.

    • @MauricioVives
      @MauricioVives 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeats Thanks! I would be interested in a sound comparison if you are up for it, i.e. what those (more expensive) synths can do that something like the Minilogue can't do.

  • @Qwiv
    @Qwiv 2 месяца назад

    Little bit cheaper then putty a Taiga in a NiftyKey like I have, but you get more Eurorack space in the nifty (which can house the few added features or anything else). You also get polyphony options with Nifty. I do like the jacks at the top vs bottom though. It’s probably lighter too. The Nifty gets quite heavy. Of course Nifty is one octave bigger being 49keys so that is a huge plus. Probably cheaper used too.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      The Taiga is quite heavy too, i dont know exact weight

  • @Robguitarjarvis
    @Robguitarjarvis 2 месяца назад +1

    It’s a shame you can’t fit 28hp Eventide Misha in the 24 hp space

  • @ManCalledMif
    @ManCalledMif 2 месяца назад +2

    Well made walkthrough Bo.
    This is a nice synth, but Moog grandmother and matriarch have already covered this ground enough for me.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @novalogue
      @novalogue 2 месяца назад +1

      Huh? The Grandmother is almost redundant owning a Matriarch - rather have a Taiga because you dont have a lpg and the wavefolders

    • @ManCalledMif
      @ManCalledMif 2 месяца назад

      @@novalogue just talking from the POV of someone who owns a few synths. Moog Mavis has a wave folder and the low pass gate didn’t sound particularly different to a standard envelope. It’s a different calculation if you don’t have a GM and a matriarch

  • @WilyEPeyote
    @WilyEPeyote 2 месяца назад

    I don't suppose there's a way to quantize those coarse tuning controls to octaves?

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      No

    • @WilyEPeyote
      @WilyEPeyote 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeats Shame. One of the things that puts me off so many Eurorack oscillator modules is this large coarse tuning obsession. I guess playing in tune is so last century ;)

    • @Daphoid
      @Daphoid 2 месяца назад

      @@WilyEPeyoteI'd say just solve the quantized tuning with a module that you like that does just that, and patch everything through it; then you have that feature everywhere you like. Though this requires the synths to be semi modular (but if they are that's half the point I'd say).

    • @WilyEPeyote
      @WilyEPeyote 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Daphoid I have no great need for new stuff though, especially Eurorack. Feels like I'd be rewarding the kind of synth design I don't like if I bought it when it so completely misses the mark for my tastes.

    • @Daphoid
      @Daphoid 2 месяца назад +1

      @@WilyEPeyote oh 100%. No one should buy something if it doesn’t fit. And everyone’s needs are different. :)

  • @brumd
    @brumd 2 месяца назад +2

    It looks like Pittsburgh Modular really listened to their customers. I appreciate that. A 2nd LFO was sorely needed, and adding the eurorack section on the right is quite brilliant; that way you can just try out a few modules, without spending quite a bit of money first on a case/power/bus.
    For me, the Taiga was my way into eurorack for above reasons: I really loved my Taiga, but felt I could get a lot more out of it beefing it up with extra modulation sources, VCAs etc.
    However, personally I won't by synths with keyboards (they just take up space, and I have enough of them), but I totally get it if someone wants to buy this.
    One thing that they didn't do, and what defintely would be useful is adding a small OLED screen to the control module; at least in the original Taiga, this module is way too complicated and non-intuitive imho.

  • @jonasaras
    @jonasaras 2 месяца назад +1

    Looks like the UAD Polymax

  • @Fyourfeelings909
    @Fyourfeelings909 2 месяца назад

    This one or ms20?

  • @kgbinfo
    @kgbinfo 2 месяца назад

    Interesting that the envelope controls are so touchy in terms of dialing in a usable release length. I have the same issue with my Matriarch. It’s hard to get plucky or snappy envelope settings, which sucks because that’s one of the things that Moogs are famous for!

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      Yeah on the flip side the envelopes on taiga can make super snappy sounds! So thats great

  • @ErichNolanBertussi
    @ErichNolanBertussi 2 месяца назад +2

    i don't know Bo, i think this thing might be able to emulate a 303 after all! ;) lol just not for raves :P - just ambient 303 emulation ;)

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      oh it can 303 alright!

    • @ErichNolanBertussi
      @ErichNolanBertussi 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeats je pense je pense aussi!

  • @bobfrode
    @bobfrode 2 месяца назад +9

    reminds me of my MFB Dominion1 :)

    • @thedarkestrainbow
      @thedarkestrainbow 2 месяца назад +2

      Same! Was just thinking that. But with more patch points and actual pitch and mod wheels 🖤. I’d consider trading up if I actually considered getting rid of anything. 🙃💀 MFB Dominion 1 is my fav synth I own, it’s not going anywhere. But the Matriarch and now this are really great spiritual successors.

    • @bobfrode
      @bobfrode 2 месяца назад

      @@thedarkestrainbow true :)

    • @eyeprod3101
      @eyeprod3101 2 месяца назад +1

      For me, only because of the patch points. I do like the wheels and I really like the global octave switch. I also like the clean layout because the Dom1 is pretty busy panel wise, even when you get used to it there is a lot going on to keep track of. I'll keep my dominion1 though.

    • @bobfrode
      @bobfrode 2 месяца назад +2

      @@eyeprod3101 the thing i dont like are the ribbons, but it sounds awesome! to bad the creator of this brand died a couple of years ago :(

    • @thedarkestrainbow
      @thedarkestrainbow 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah I hate the ribbons and the lack of dedicated octave buttons. I don’t know why he made those decisions but alas we must live with it. I wouldn’t sell it though, it sounds too good and is so much fun to play. And built like a tank. They’re going up in value, last time I checked it was worth double what I paid for it new. Sad about Manfred too. RIP. He made some fantastic instruments. Proud to own one.

  • @rgeraldc80s
    @rgeraldc80s 2 месяца назад

    I want this, but I think i'd rather have a second taiga and a NiftyKeys.

  • @vasil3089
    @vasil3089 24 дня назад

    Why not include an oscilloscope? It Really would make this all better. Please!

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  24 дня назад

      I have begun to slowly include it and my next modular vid will have one :-)

  • @awpMusic1
    @awpMusic1 29 дней назад

    Have you tried using USB midi with the Taiga? Mine plays back midi FOUR OCTAVES higher than input! Lots of other strange quirks too. Unworkable with midi. Very dissapointing.

  • @ErichNolanBertussi
    @ErichNolanBertussi 2 месяца назад +2

    i guess it's too wide to produce a desktop or rack version of it eh?

    • @iamjamessmith
      @iamjamessmith 2 месяца назад +1

      The desktop unit came out last year.

  • @MrHihowryou
    @MrHihowryou 2 месяца назад +1

    Taiga keyboard vs Matriarch, discuss

  • @pjforde1978
    @pjforde1978 2 месяца назад

    Hear me out... my reaction to this synth is that it kind of sounds like every other synth. I truly want to understand.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +2

      Without a direct comparison to another synth, side by side, it can be very difficult to pick up on differences. Analog synths and even digital ones sound similar. Thats because the building blocks, osc waveforms etc are similar.
      One difference is the wavefolder. Most analog synths doesnt have one, and definitely not three.
      Another difference is the filter. Most analog synths do not offer this kind of filter.
      One thing the Taiga does differently is its low pass gate (dynamics). In the portion of the vid you should clearly hear a distinct difference between a VCA and the lowpass gate modes. The LPG sounds will sound pluckier, with a more resonant sound and with an initial short filter sweep, which doesn’t come from the actual filter but the LPG closing.
      But.
      Synths still sound similar. And so I think its more about finding instruments that sound a way that you like.

    • @pjforde1978
      @pjforde1978 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeats thank you, Bo! That's a wonderful explanation. I concur with your sentiment on all fronts; my confusion is more just that when you look at the landscape of available choices, the differences really come down to the vision the designer had for sound design ergonomics. Shooting with my Hasselblad feels like driving a Rolls Royce or something, but the end viewer only sees a square photo. For me, hearing the Taiga is like seeing a square photo.

  • @NicholasBryantBonzaiSequoias
    @NicholasBryantBonzaiSequoias 2 месяца назад

    This synth seems to be another of the almost type, in that it has a lot to interest but too many failings.
    As a mostly happy owner of a Behringer Neutron, which also has a lacklustre delay (that has to be patched around to avoid noise!), I am wary of buying anything that has underwhelming functions/facilities.
    The patch points would be better to the side as cables dangling over the keyboard are not fun in a live situation!

  • @robthebloke
    @robthebloke 2 месяца назад +2

    Yeah, having been burnt by the desktop version of this synth, it’s a BIG nope from me.
    The ADSR’s on the desktop unit were terrible - sounds like they haven’t addressed that problem! They only really seem to work for longer pad style sounds, dialling in anything at the snappy end was pretty much impossible. It felt also they’d accidentally installed exponential pots instead of a linear ones. Really odd envelopes!
    The biggest problem with the desktop module though was that it was impossible to use without midi. They initialise the midi note to C0, and the VCO’s could only track up to 3v above the midi note. If you turned the pitch knob up to where it was audible, you’d be above the voltage range where the oscillators could track. I guess the keyboard fixes that problem, but would have been nice if they could have not made such a fatal mistake with the desktop unit!
    The response from the Pittsburgh modular team was: “well, sucks to be you”
    I’d never buy another synth from that company. I’d also never recommend anyone to buy anything from them either! The Taiga is the single worst experience I’ve ever had from any bit of gear ever!!

    • @iswm
      @iswm 2 месяца назад

      yeah the envelopes are definitely the biggest problem with it. well that and the retina-scorching LEDs that really could have used some bigger resistors. I guess the trick for snappy is to just embrace the low-pass gate/dynamics controller. I still like mine but it's certainly not perfect.

    • @rgeraldc80s
      @rgeraldc80s 2 месяца назад

      Pittsburgh said the ADSR was addressed in the stream today, I wonder if Bo's early one had the old one's.

    • @robthebloke
      @robthebloke 2 месяца назад

      @@rgeraldc80s that doesn’t help anyone who already has a Taiga though. It also doesn’t help if your customer service response is to basically flip the bird at your previously loyal customers. I have zero time for Pittsburgh after the way they treated *me*.
      I have never had such an unpleasant customer experience with any other manufacturer before or since. They have permanently lost a customer, and the experience was not one I’d wish on my worst enemy.
      It’s rare that I whinge about a company this much, but frankly if it saves someone making an expensive mistake, it’s worth it imho! 🤬

    • @robthebloke
      @robthebloke 2 месяца назад

      @@iswm sadly mine is entirely unusable. I like the sound of the filter, but that’s the only good thing I have to say about it. It’s been sat in the box since the I bought it. Pittsburgh refused to rectify any of my problems, and I can’t in good faith flog an unusable synth to an unsuspecting mug on marketplace or gumtree. I have a slightly higher moral standard than Pittsburgh it would seem! 🤬

    • @iswm
      @iswm 2 месяца назад

      @@robthebloke I didn't know about it being unusable without MIDI since I use MIDI for mine. I would be frustrated too. For what it's worth I asked them about the ADSRs and they said they would mod taiga desktops with the new pots if you send it in to them. Not that I'm trying to change your mind or anything since I know what it feels like to get burned, but maybe they're doing better on the customer service front now.

  • @incaroads001
    @incaroads001 2 месяца назад +2

    MUST...STAY...STRONG.
    MUST...NOT...WANT...THIS.
    MUST...NOT...OBSESS.....

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад

      Sending my prayers!

    • @incaroads001
      @incaroads001 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeats Thank you. I don't think I'll make it without them.😁🙏

  • @frankschneider7190
    @frankschneider7190 2 месяца назад

    you are hard to understand on an iPad. maybe use a de-esser….?

  • @Hyperslob
    @Hyperslob Месяц назад

    Gear is just way to expensive these days, companies charging insane for inferrer products compared to some that warrant their price.

  • @sidefish8362
    @sidefish8362 2 месяца назад +2

    Why oh why did Pittsburg Modular go with that shitty "Taiga" font? It gives the synth the look of a cosmetics pallete.

    • @iamjamessmith
      @iamjamessmith 2 месяца назад +1

      They should have asked you.

    • @sidefish8362
      @sidefish8362 2 месяца назад +1

      @@iamjamessmith It would have looked a lot cooler if they did.

    • @infn8loopmusic
      @infn8loopmusic 2 месяца назад +1

      I think that color coded knobs are really practical in the dark and help with knob muscle memory, so the intent was good. They could have chosen bolder colors or more intricate/ less flat design, though. Right?

    • @sidefish8362
      @sidefish8362 2 месяца назад +3

      @@infn8loopmusic I don't have a problem with the colours of the knobs, it's the crummy script font that they used and those lame sweeping lines, It looks like it was done by someone who was previously an interior decorator. It's not how I want a synth to look and it puts me right off. Some of their other offerings have been wtf poor in the graphics department too, East Beast, West Pest, for example.

    • @miffebarbez
      @miffebarbez 2 месяца назад +1

      @@sidefish8362when i see your avatar, i doubt that.

  • @jonnyhead
    @jonnyhead 2 месяца назад

    1200 euros 😒 too much for this. Analogue synth market is flooded at the moment.

  • @toborexperiment
    @toborexperiment 2 месяца назад

    sounds like a moog

  • @bogelmanDDD
    @bogelmanDDD 2 месяца назад +2

    Тайга? Опять русские? Лучше пусть синтезаторы делают а не ракеты....

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  2 месяца назад +4

      Sir, taiga is a kind of forest, we have it here in Sweden too, and Pittsburgh Modular is a US company

    • @bogelmanDDD
      @bogelmanDDD 2 месяца назад +2

      @@BoBeats я так и думал) Молодцы шведы!)

    • @ruslanr.6171
      @ruslanr.6171 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@bogelmanDDD ты опять ничего не понял) контора американская, основатели Майк и Ричард - американцы. А тайга это ботаническое понятие, тайга это тип лесистой местности, покрывает часть Канады, США и Европы (в том числе Швеции), в рашке тоже есть, но это слово не имеет прямого отношения к рашке.

    • @bogelmanDDD
      @bogelmanDDD 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ruslanr.6171 спасибо бразе у меня на телефоне переводчик не фурьічит)

  • @TheChumski
    @TheChumski 2 месяца назад

    Care to explain why you don’t like the delay? Not a very good reviewer if you can’t even articulate yourself lol

  • @unkind_1
    @unkind_1 2 месяца назад

    I refuse to call this innovative. V1, yes. Keys, cash grab. 😂 The og taiga and niftykeyz new is around the same cost, with more functionalty and spare HP. Same-ish cost, no real R 'n' D involved. Pretty, but I hate this thing.

  • @celtislam
    @celtislam 2 месяца назад

    Over priced over rated rather spend my cash on a Behringer lol

    • @michaeltristan
      @michaeltristan 2 месяца назад +3

      remember- SOMEBODY had to make the original synth that berhinger cloned.. once berhinger put all those innovators and inventors out of business- there will be nothing new to clone. but you do you- lead the way down for the rest of the bottom feeders.

    • @celtislam
      @celtislam 2 месяца назад

      🤣 Behringer kickass! now we can have amazing toys to create banging music that is no longer reserved for the spoilt brat trust funders making sqeeks and fart noizes all day long fobbing us off that its experimental lol could go on all day about synth snobs lol l @@michaeltristan

    • @iswm
      @iswm 2 месяца назад +1

      @@michaeltristan berhinger is a mixed bag. yeah, they clone a bunch of stuff, but they clone stuff that the original manufacturer is no longer producing and no one else is necessarily cloning. You want an analog 303? Have fun spending thousands for one that isn't from berhinger. Meanwhile berhinger will even sell you one with all the popular mods built right in. If roland just gave the people what they want berhinger wouldn't be eating their lunch.

  • @mezz3036
    @mezz3036 2 месяца назад +35

    Dammit, I promised myself no more

    • @infn8loopmusic
      @infn8loopmusic 2 месяца назад +2

      Seriously this! I have a Korg ms-20 mini coming today. Now I see this 😂🤔😲🤯

    • @mezz3036
      @mezz3036 2 месяца назад

      lol. You won't regret the Korg. It's a little beast. I will only part with mine if I can find a full size cheap enough.@@infn8loopmusic

    • @iamjamessmith
      @iamjamessmith 2 месяца назад +3

      You don't need more.

    • @mezz3036
      @mezz3036 2 месяца назад +3

      lol. That is very true.@@iamjamessmith

    • @iamjamessmith
      @iamjamessmith 2 месяца назад

      ​@@mezz3036✊

  • @christoroppolo8742
    @christoroppolo8742 Месяц назад

    Mine showed up broken🫤