They are probably doing their own version of Venom, especially if u saw the end of No Way Home. A lot of yall said that Venom acts too goofy so now they are probably giving u the more brutal version
Thats the sad thing about it, any good writer would see this as a chance for some great character progression. Sony should have worked with Marvel to make Venom just as big as Spiderman, rather we'll probably see him in a one off sony movie to cap off his story.
Unless MCU Eddie Brock is also played by Tom Hardy, I'm having trouble seeing how crossing them over was a good idea. Surely we could've gotten a symbiote in the MCU other ways.
@@MrE_ But somehow Feige accepted and managed to keep a part of the symbiote in the mcu ,thus allowing him to do whatever he wants with this new Venom in the MCU Proper.
That bit of the symbiote is there to bridge Holland’s Spider-Man to Sony’s universe. The MCU will not have its own Eddie Brock. One Day, Tom Hardy will come get it back, or Tom Holland will have to return it.
To further add to the theory that Tom Hardy's Venom is in the same universe as TASM's, in NWH all the characters that came were from the Raimi trilogy and tasm universe except venom. Why would he be the only one from another universe?
Sony have allready answeer this. All venom are the same only the human varriant arent. So he came because off topher grace venom like the New one is also from the same venom. They are setting up knull. They want to say more inn venom 3 movie, where they want tom holland back but mcu Said No because they want to use there venom diffrent. So mcu and Sony are now discusing IT. Sony need tom holland for the movie and somehow if really mcu Said yes to knull they need to also be inn it
@@johngrayson9218 But the symbiotes accross the muliverse have interconnected knowledge and as the Topher Grace Venom fought Tobey's Peter In Raimi's Spiderman 3 tsymbiotes are aware that a Peter Parker is Spider-Man
Seems like Sony has a Venomverse with no Spiderman on his Earth. And now the MCU will have their own proper Venom alongside Spiderman, as it should be.
Venom wasn’t completely transported out, just Eddy and a big part of him. There was a little blob of him left on that table, he’s still there. He just doesn’t have a host at the moment
@@ohnobro1424 Nah, only reason it stayed behind at all and dude didn’t when Strange repaired the spell or whatever was because Venom saw the TV screen with dudes face on it. He witnessed him, so he got to stick around. Dude probably only knew from a name basis and never paid attention to his face. That and the line literally acknowledges that Venom has multiple collective consciousnesses across the multiverse, obviously one of them knew who Peter was. And so, lil’ blob just need a host 😁
@@BigBoss-nn2ut I honestly feel like the symbiote is gonna go straight for Peter, due to the collective consciousness. So it must know from other universes that when Peter makes contact with it, that it's powerful when he's the host. And of course someone like flash might have so much more anger to feed off of that it might disconnect from Peter and later make flash host.
@@jraydonbohnson6508 Love it, sounds perfect. Like it’s looking for some quality in Peter that he just doesn’t have like that and then it’s a jackpot moment when he finds Flash.
@@BigBoss-nn2ut I'm just worried cuz that does kinda happen in Spider man 3 already, the church scene specifically. Peter fights the symbiote and shows he's truly good, so the symbiote gets a taste of Eddie and his hatred towards Peter for humiliating him.
Doesn't it also give Marvel the option to do the symbiote costume for Spiderman? Seems that leaving the piece behind is a clear open door for that. No, they don't HAVE TO do it, but they have that option (think about it--it allows them to bypass the reverse order Venom imposed on them. Now they can do a symbiote costume, have it make sense and owe Sony squat). Meanwhile, if Sony doesn't screw up their Spiderverse (always a danger--I'd say they're only 10% more clued-in than they were 4 yrs ago), and they have a successful Venom 3, think it becomes more likely we see Tom Hardy come back at some point. Before that though, I'm sure we'll have Amy Pascal blurt out that there are 34 new Spiderman projects in development, including a Sinister Six Easter Special. I agree with your overall outlook--Feige is still watching to see if Sony can do, say, a decent Morbius movie and a third Venom without barfing on themselves. If they do, Venom in MCU has a chance; if not, he'll cast a forget spell on himself.
I think 1st Spider-Man himself will receive the symbiote then it will jump to Mac Gargan maybe skipping Brock then it will go to Flash debuting Agent Venom in mcu
Gargan would make sense. His version of Venom is closest to the original comics version though he's darker, more violent, his irrational hatred of Spider-Man is close to the original Venom.
Initially I was kinda mad they kicked Eddie and Venom out just for Venom to be played by somebody else but now thinking about it I am kinda happy. Because if Sonys Venom stayed in the MCU, that would mean Eddie would have to lose Venom for Tom Hollands spiderman to get the Venom symbiote making Eddie just a normal guy.
So in other words he will most likely appear in one with one of the other spider-men. The most logical one is indeed Andrew who haven't contacted with a symbiote yet or Eddy too.
If Tom Hardy’s Venom is not facing Tom Holland’s Spider-Man, I really wonder which Spider-Man version will be facing Venom? I’m really hoping it’s Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man who will fight him. Also wonder if the piece of Symbio left behind by Venom, will actually attached to the MCU’s Spider-Man?
@@LSchelvin71 You haven't seen the latest Venom and Spider-Man movies, have you? Venom is home, Spider-Man is in the MCU. They would have to jump all kinds of plot sharks to get Holland in Venom's universe now. They never interacted, they don't know each other and there's no reason for MCU Spider-Man to ever go there. It could be argued that Venom would go to the MCU to get back that last little spec of symbiote but it doesn't make any sense for MCU Spider-Man to go to Sony's universe of whatever the hell randomness that isn't actually joined as a universe.
I think Feige even agreed to Venom being in No Way Home as well but he left the decision to the director. Be cause Jon Watts has said they wanted to include Venom but he didn't fit in with other villains.
The relationship between Sony and Disney right now is that Disney is making Sony rich AF. Like they’ll make a spiderman movie. Sony sells video games and get some hype on the Spiderman Villains.
At first I was annoyed but the mcu can now make a villainous venom instead of the comedy like character in the sony verse , there's so many different routes they can go .
I’m still wondering how tf he was even “zapped” into the mcu considering Strange said every villain that knows Peter Parker is Spiderman only were pulled into his universe but Venom literally has no knowledge of Spiderman nor Peter Parker, so there should’ve been absolute no reason for Venom to be pulled through as well.
Most of the running time of No Way Home either makes zero sense or is poorly developed. Three Spidermen mostly negates this fact and allows us to overlook it and accept it as a popcorn fan service movie. It's that special a moment.
It was a good move and I hope they keep it that way. This incarnation of Venom does not fit in with the MCU's tone at all. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Tom Hardy's Venom go up against Andrew Garfiield's Spiderman. That would be a much better fit.
how does he not fit lol? More people are going to be disappointed if the Hardy Venom doesn't clash with the Holland Spiderman compared to him facing Garfield.
An even simpler way of putting it is that Sony's Venom never bonded with Peter Parker so he's not comic book accurate Venom. In order for Venom to exist in the MCU the symbiote has to bond with Peter Parker first before moving on to Eddie Brock and before that happens. There has to be a history between Peter Parker and Eddie Brock in the MCU before the symbiote has Eddie as it's new host.
I am not buying your interpretation. I think we will learn more about if the Sony Spiderverse and MCU are parallel in Morbius. One reason is that Dr. Michael Morbius reads a version of the Daily Bugle in NYC that is similar to or the same paper in Venom 2 read by Detective Mulligan and literally has a page with a headline involving the Avengers being flipped over. Throw in Adrian Toomes appearing in the movie whether MCU version or a "variant". I also think Strange's spell transported the symbiote which like the other villains due to hive knowledge knew Peter Parker is Spiderman but Eddie just came along for the trip. I think the Strange spell did not transport Venom to NYC like the other Spiderman villains because he didn't physically morph into Venom during their time in Mexico. And then when Strange completed the spell to send all the villains home he also made everyone forget MCU Spiderman is Peter Parker but that may conflict with the infinite hive knowledge of Venom who knows the truth through multiple universes.
The symbiote sample that Venom left in the MCU is clearly for either a new spidey suit and/or Flash Thompson’s Agent Venom who is a member of the Thunderbolts, Guardians of the Galaxy or even Avengers. Depends on the direction Marvel decides to take that character. All I know is that Sony is going to make bank off Disney for years to come lol.
If kingpin is anything to go by then. by all means, he'll be better alright. as in watered down kid friendly shit. can't believe some of you idiotic mcu fans at the moment 🤣
I love the Venom movies with Tom Hardy but I can't wait to see their version of it in the MCU. Hopefully Tom Holland Spiderman will get the black Symbiote suit
MCU and Venom don't mix. Venom belongs in his world where he has no restrictions. Can say what he wants, eat who he wants etc. now the question is who will be Agent Venom and when will the symbiote attach to Peter and get a dancing montage haha.
Same, I breathed and later, Andrew Garfield was trading soo much for come back for TAMS after NWH.. And Sony knows Hardy venom has to face Spider Man anyway in future. I can't wait to see Andrew vs Hardy ..Just Wow!!! Sony saved.....
Everything Sony has done with Venom is a joke they literally brought him in and kicked him out of the MCU in two post credit scenes if that isn't proof his movie's are bad I don't know what is hopefully we get a proper symbiote origin story for Venom with Spiderman this time in the MCU without the cringe Emo Parker dancing from Spiderman 3 and miscast Eddie Brock or Antihero Venom without his proper logo from the movies just Venom vs Spiderman story with Tom Hardy finally doing the character justice.
I don’t mind we get two venoms now we still get the hardy venom films and another mcu venom That’s just extra venom content Tbh I didn’t want him in the mcu because I got attached to the other characters from that universe and I wanted to see them again
No because they are still gonna continue his movies We get two venoms Idk why ur soul is so jaded and why u can’t just have fun That’s your problem but the venom movies arent bad People love them and the movies were a hit It’s a unique take on venom
Honestly don’t like the villains from different universe interact with Tom Holland spider man, they need to put there own Spider-Man villains in there universe, yes it’s cool to see them characters coming back from Spider-Man no way home but they not fit in Tom Holland Spider-Man universe. We only got vulture, shocker, Mysterio, and scorpion if they going to put him in a role and is it just me or when it comes to making a superheroe movie and he director sure know how to kill off a big villain character and not just save them characters for future roles
Armin! Great content over the years, bro. But, as a fellow wrestling fan, don't you mean that Venom was basically in the MCU for about a cup of coffee?
@@robertkenny1201 In Tom Hollands Universe which is the MCU has no Eddie Brock variant, so that why I am guessing that Flash Thompson will be Venom but I also prefer Eddie Brock version too
They really just had to get my hopes up like that. When I saw the end credits scene of Let There Be Carnage, I was so hyped. I really love Tom Hardy’s Venom, and I love the MCU, it would’ve been awesome to get at least some action, like Tom Hardy’s Venom facing off against/teaming up with Tom Holland’s Spider-Man, even if he wasn’t there to stay. I’m gonna be disappointed if they bring Venom into the MCU (like with the goop left behind in the scene), and not use Tom Hardy cause they got up my hopes. I guess we’ll see how this all plays out though, there’s so many directions they could take it at this point so what I stated previously isn’t out of the question at least.
Also venom being brought in created a plot hole because when doctor strange did the spell the spell was everyone will forget Peter Parker is Spider-Man except everyone who knew I was Spider-Man before the whole world knew still knows but Electro and Tom Hardy venom never figured out
Only thing I don't like about the Venom movie is he doesn't utilize his shape shifting abilities he didn't turn his hands into weapons or release tendrils out he did the bare minimum and attacked with his hands like a brute.
i personally hate 2 venom movies especially the second one is one of the worst comicbook movies in the past 10 15 years , so I'm glad now that he is out of mcu there is a possibility that they can make a new better venom
I cannot disagree more, but I’m excited to see a Darker venom alongside the lovable campy venom. Venom and Venom 2 are comic book B movies and they’re fun and goofy, and to some people that means “Oh it’s so bad, it’s a disgrace” etc. but I honestly love that shit. People need to lighten up, the Venom Movies are so much fun.
Venom wasn't zapped back, Eddie Brock was! They left a piece behind so that they can do a proper alien costume story with Spider-Man, don't say that it was a dispute between Sony and Marvel, that's obviously nonsense
I don’t mind we get two venoms now we still get the hardy venom films and another mcu venom That’s just extra venom content Tbh I didn’t want him in the mcu because I got attached to the other characters from that universe and I wanted to see them again
Thing is that I wonder about that I dont see anyone talking about, the parameters of the spell was that those that knew Peter Parker was spider-man was sent into the MCU, why was Eddy pulled in? Does he know more about spider-man than we know?
@@johngrayson9218 Yeah thats what I was saying with maybe it being Venom and his collective Hive-Knowledge. But even the implications of that cause clearly Venom himself ( Tom Hardy's ) doesnt know Peter Parker, so is he linking with the knowledge of Sam Raimi's Venom? Or another Symbiote entirely?
I mean honestly he doesn’t even belong in the MCU Universe , now we can actually see that whole thing with Holland getting the symbiote suit in his new trilogy
Problem with sony is they have antagonists against spider man but if they wana make antagonists theier own film they must just make one film for each because they don't have any story to tell for 2 nd film
But how are they gonna explain the post credit scene of venom, cause in theory, anyone who knows Peter's identity got sucked into MCU. Did Tom Hardy's Eddie knew Peter is Spiderman?
Hardy is a GOAT and one/both of the studios would be out of their ever-lovin’ noggins to not allow his Eddie/Venom to interact with MCU characters. If anyone couldn’t tell, that’s really what’s needed for Venom at this point - other strong characters to bounce off of. The dynamics would explode off the screen.
I think this was smart move plus I’m down or whatever I can’t wait for more Venom films plus I can’t wait to see who he’s going against in the 3rd film especially of it will be a multiversal story as well. I’m also hyped about the Symbiote Saga with Holland as well plus we still have the Symbiote Multiverse Hive Mind but I would love to see Venom v. Venom Spidey but if that doesn’t happened I’m still fine with it IMO💯🔥
I like Tom Hardy as Venom, but those movies kinda sucked. The whole relationship subplot with his ex is cringe, and I have issues with a lot of other parts. I would love to see a venom in the MCU, but I hope it's actually good
@@MrE_ aye ik what u mean especially with the ex but I jus want to more Venom bc he’s one my favorite characters and I would to see what the MCU do with the Symbiote Saga with Holland Spidey💯
@@johngrayson9218 Well after it’s success the budget for that department will be upped,I for one wasn’t in rush to watch Venom 2 and although I enjoyed it I saw the clear difference in their product compared to a Marvel Studios movie.
Hey Sony, here's a fix: Venom is the main villain-with-redemption-arc in Amazing Spider-Man 3. Followed by Venom 3 team-up vs. Kraven or whomever. Or, vice versa. Aaaand... go.
For the last damn time. No one wants an Amazing Spiderman 3. Andrew touched you guys' nostalgia and everyone forgets how shitty his movies were. Tom is Spidey. We had enough fan service in NWH. It's time to move on. There's much better stories. No one wants to see a "good" venom. They're rebooting him because they want him to be evil and more accurate
They are probably doing their own version of Venom, especially if u saw the end of No Way Home. A lot of yall said that Venom acts too goofy so now they are probably giving u the more brutal version
Maybe we could get Mac Gargon’s Venom. After he is Scorpion of course.
Probably.
Thats the sad thing about it, any good writer would see this as a chance for some great character progression. Sony should have worked with Marvel to make Venom just as big as Spiderman, rather we'll probably see him in a one off sony movie to cap off his story.
Disney PG-13 Brutal
He does acts too goofy tf ? All he does is make jokes and party make venom serious, killer and hate spider man
They’re probably going to Secret Wars the piece of that Venom symbiote to MCU Peter.
Unless MCU Eddie Brock is also played by Tom Hardy, I'm having trouble seeing how crossing them over was a good idea. Surely we could've gotten a symbiote in the MCU other ways.
so sony could sell let there be carnage blurays in anticipation to no way home ,definetly a sony decision lolol
Fan service
Yea it was kinda dumb. I don't think it was something Kevin Feige wanted
@@MrE_ But somehow Feige accepted and managed to keep a part of the symbiote in the mcu ,thus allowing him to do whatever he wants with this new Venom in the MCU Proper.
That bit of the symbiote is there to bridge Holland’s Spider-Man to Sony’s universe. The MCU will not have its own Eddie Brock. One Day, Tom Hardy will come get it back, or Tom Holland will have to return it.
To further add to the theory that Tom Hardy's Venom is in the same universe as TASM's, in NWH all the characters that came were from the Raimi trilogy and tasm universe except venom. Why would he be the only one from another universe?
True
Sony have allready answeer this. All venom are the same only the human varriant arent. So he came because off topher grace venom like the New one is also from the same venom. They are setting up knull. They want to say more inn venom 3 movie, where they want tom holland back but mcu Said No because they want to use there venom diffrent. So mcu and Sony are now discusing IT. Sony need tom holland for the movie and somehow if really mcu Said yes to knull they need to also be inn it
Because Sony hadn’t introduced any other characters from his universe yet. Also, no one else in his universe knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man.
@@carinahatlevoll153 They don't need Tom for the Sonyverse . More likely it is Andrew.
@@johngrayson9218 But the symbiotes accross the muliverse have interconnected knowledge and as the Topher Grace Venom fought Tobey's Peter In Raimi's Spiderman 3 tsymbiotes are aware that a Peter Parker is Spider-Man
Is it possible he would have forgotten what he learned after Doctor Strange's second spell?
That’s the implication
It's surprising that Venom 2 post credit scene was just to set up No Way Home post credit scene.
Seems like Sony has a Venomverse with no Spiderman on his Earth. And now the MCU will have their own proper Venom alongside Spiderman, as it should be.
MCU venom is gonna have the big white spider symbol on his chest.
but it won't be tom hardy
i pass
Tom Hardy’s venom isn’t the real venom
Because they wanted MCU Venom vs Spider-Man. Hardy's Venom is good.
Venom wasn’t completely transported out, just Eddy and a big part of him. There was a little blob of him left on that table, he’s still there. He just doesn’t have a host at the moment
wouldn't that just be Venom's offspring then?
@@ohnobro1424 Nah, only reason it stayed behind at all and dude didn’t when Strange repaired the spell or whatever was because Venom saw the TV screen with dudes face on it. He witnessed him, so he got to stick around. Dude probably only knew from a name basis and never paid attention to his face. That and the line literally acknowledges that Venom has multiple collective consciousnesses across the multiverse, obviously one of them knew who Peter was. And so, lil’ blob just need a host 😁
@@BigBoss-nn2ut I honestly feel like the symbiote is gonna go straight for Peter, due to the collective consciousness. So it must know from other universes that when Peter makes contact with it, that it's powerful when he's the host. And of course someone like flash might have so much more anger to feed off of that it might disconnect from Peter and later make flash host.
@@jraydonbohnson6508 Love it, sounds perfect. Like it’s looking for some quality in Peter that he just doesn’t have like that and then it’s a jackpot moment when he finds Flash.
@@BigBoss-nn2ut I'm just worried cuz that does kinda happen in Spider man 3 already, the church scene specifically. Peter fights the symbiote and shows he's truly good, so the symbiote gets a taste of Eddie and his hatred towards Peter for humiliating him.
Doesn't it also give Marvel the option to do the symbiote costume for Spiderman? Seems that leaving the piece behind is a clear open door for that. No, they don't HAVE TO do it, but they have that option (think about it--it allows them to bypass the reverse order Venom imposed on them. Now they can do a symbiote costume, have it make sense and owe Sony squat). Meanwhile, if Sony doesn't screw up their Spiderverse (always a danger--I'd say they're only 10% more clued-in than they were 4 yrs ago), and they have a successful Venom 3, think it becomes more likely we see Tom Hardy come back at some point.
Before that though, I'm sure we'll have Amy Pascal blurt out that there are 34 new Spiderman projects in development, including a Sinister Six Easter Special. I agree with your overall outlook--Feige is still watching to see if Sony can do, say, a decent Morbius movie and a third Venom without barfing on themselves. If they do, Venom in MCU has a chance; if not, he'll cast a forget spell on himself.
Well said.
I think they have to, now spiderman doesnt have tech costumes and they need to sell toys and other things, so symbiote suit it is
We want Tom hardy doing Venom MCU but This Time more darker than sony Venom
He won’t be the MCU’s Venom, but he will be back.
I think 1st Spider-Man himself will receive the symbiote then it will jump to Mac Gargan maybe skipping Brock then it will go to Flash debuting Agent Venom in mcu
If mac gargan confirm then yes
Gargan would make sense. His version of Venom is closest to the original comics version though he's darker, more violent, his irrational hatred of Spider-Man is close to the original Venom.
I dont like FLash in the MCU I hope it never goes to him
Initially I was kinda mad they kicked Eddie and Venom out just for Venom to be played by somebody else but now thinking about it I am kinda happy. Because if Sonys Venom stayed in the MCU, that would mean Eddie would have to lose Venom for Tom Hollands spiderman to get the Venom symbiote making Eddie just a normal guy.
It also means some kind of tokenized Venom.
So in other words he will most likely appear in one with one of the other spider-men. The most logical one is indeed Andrew who haven't contacted with a symbiote yet or Eddy too.
Andre garfunkle
Who's Andre and Eddy?
Andre??
@@Mrgomodefr I forgot to spell it all the way
@@chucktaylor824 I'm referring to Andrew's Spider-Man because there are 3 different Spider-Man
If Tom Hardy’s Venom is not facing Tom Holland’s Spider-Man, I really wonder which Spider-Man version will be facing Venom? I’m really hoping it’s Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man who will fight him. Also wonder if the piece of Symbio left behind by Venom, will actually attached to the MCU’s Spider-Man?
I don't think Hardy's Venom will fight Spider-Man. I think we'll get a different Venom and he'll fight Tom Holland's Spider-Man.
@@glenwaldrop8166 more like TH Spidey will be in Venom 3 movie
@@LSchelvin71 Nope
@@LSchelvin71 You haven't seen the latest Venom and Spider-Man movies, have you?
Venom is home, Spider-Man is in the MCU. They would have to jump all kinds of plot sharks to get Holland in Venom's universe now. They never interacted, they don't know each other and there's no reason for MCU Spider-Man to ever go there.
It could be argued that Venom would go to the MCU to get back that last little spec of symbiote but it doesn't make any sense for MCU Spider-Man to go to Sony's universe of whatever the hell randomness that isn't actually joined as a universe.
Mac Gargan in the MCU, and Eddie will come back to get it, or Peter will go to return it.
I think Feige even agreed to Venom being in No Way Home as well but he left the decision to the director. Be cause Jon Watts has said they wanted to include Venom but he didn't fit in with other villains.
I was looking forward to venom in the MCU
The relationship between Sony and Disney right now is that Disney is making Sony rich AF. Like they’ll make a spiderman movie. Sony sells video games and get some hype on the Spiderman Villains.
Mark my words Mac Gargan will be the MCU’s Venom and I am so here for it.
I could not agree more! I’ve been saying that. Then probably to Flash?
That can work honestly
@@johngrayson9218 I just can't see this Flash Thompson being a host to venom. He's just a goofball
@@GrootusBeer or we get eddie brock mcu but who will play eddie brock mcu
At first I was annoyed but the mcu can now make a villainous venom instead of the comedy like character in the sony verse , there's so many different routes they can go .
Their move to leave a piece of Venom behind was smart. Now Sony’s venom can return to his own universe and an MCU Venom can be created.
Short answer: he was one of them who came through, therefore he vanishes
I’m still wondering how tf he was even “zapped” into the mcu considering Strange said every villain that knows Peter Parker is Spiderman only were pulled into his universe but Venom literally has no knowledge of Spiderman nor Peter Parker, so there should’ve been absolute no reason for Venom to be pulled through as well.
Maybe because Venom’s hive mind picked up Peter’s identity from 2003 Venom and that’s why?
Venom recognized Peter in the venom 2 post credit scene. He knows who Peter Parker is
@@calebray1834 2003 Venom? Wtf? Then why didn’t Harry Osborn (both of them) get pulled through as well?
@@Absurdword So you’re saying Peter Parker exists in his universe? Because he looked confused when he saw him on TV.
Most of the running time of No Way Home either makes zero sense or is poorly developed. Three Spidermen mostly negates this fact and allows us to overlook it and accept it as a popcorn fan service movie. It's that special a moment.
Short answer: Kevin Feige watched Venom 2 😂
I'd rather a better adaptation of Eddie Brock and Venom be in the MCU than the one from the Venomverse.
It was a good move and I hope they keep it that way. This incarnation of Venom does not fit in with the MCU's tone at all. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Tom Hardy's Venom go up against Andrew Garfiield's Spiderman. That would be a much better fit.
how does he not fit lol? More people are going to be disappointed if the Hardy Venom doesn't clash with the Holland Spiderman compared to him facing Garfield.
I will love to see interaction between andrew’s spiderman with venow symbiote on it interacting with tom hardy’s venom thats gonna be hillarious
An even simpler way of putting it is that Sony's Venom never bonded with Peter Parker so he's not comic book accurate Venom. In order for Venom to exist in the MCU the symbiote has to bond with Peter Parker first before moving on to Eddie Brock and before that happens. There has to be a history between Peter Parker and Eddie Brock in the MCU before the symbiote has Eddie as it's new host.
The screams of the Sony venom fans was so oh so sweet. Time to get a proper venom adaptation
Nah most of us were happy, we might be getting what we’ve always really wanted. Garfield vs Hardy.
@@tylerpierce2041 As much as I want to see Garfield's Spider-Man vs Hardy's Venom,I also want to see a proper adaptation
@@SSJofZ mfers really pretending flash Thompson as venom will be better than eddie brock 🤣
@@ant6132 The mcu most probably has it's Eddie Brock aswell
@@ant6132 hell no. Whoever wants that is on crack. I’d want an mcu Eddie played differently maybe by Tom hardy
I wonder there’s an Eddie Brock in the MCU who could take on Peter in the venom crossover
I am not buying your interpretation. I think we will learn more about if the Sony Spiderverse and MCU are parallel in Morbius. One reason is that Dr. Michael Morbius reads a version of the Daily Bugle in NYC that is similar to or the same paper in Venom 2 read by Detective Mulligan and literally has a page with a headline involving the Avengers being flipped over. Throw in Adrian Toomes appearing in the movie whether MCU version or a "variant". I also think Strange's spell transported the symbiote which like the other villains due to hive knowledge knew Peter Parker is Spiderman but Eddie just came along for the trip. I think the Strange spell did not transport Venom to NYC like the other Spiderman villains because he didn't physically morph into Venom during their time in Mexico. And then when Strange completed the spell to send all the villains home he also made everyone forget MCU Spiderman is Peter Parker but that may conflict with the infinite hive knowledge of Venom who knows the truth through multiple universes.
I Hope Too See Venom Again for More New Projects in the Future That's My Thoughts and Opinions about it 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
The symbiote sample that Venom left in the MCU is clearly for either a new spidey suit and/or Flash Thompson’s Agent Venom who is a member of the Thunderbolts, Guardians of the Galaxy or even Avengers. Depends on the direction Marvel decides to take that character. All I know is that Sony is going to make bank off Disney for years to come lol.
Bruh nobody wants agent venom we want Eddie forever as venom
Please bring Tom Hardy’s Venom in The MCU so we can all forget about Topher Grace!!!!
@@essamabdou4394 Unless Disney buys Sony
@@erniegonzalez2322 what
@@essamabdou4394 They Bought Fox how come they do the same for Sony
@@erniegonzalez2322 wait if they buy Sony does that mean that venom will join the mcu probably
@@essamabdou4394 Yeah plus I’m pretty sure Sony hasn’t made any good movies
Thank goodness! I HATED!!!! Sony’s Venom. MCU’s Venom will be infinitely better, and I can’t wait 😌
Shut up🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Sonys venom was the worst fucking adaptation to come to the big screen. Venom acted corny af. Felt like a Adam Sandler movie
@@era8418 it was fun and quirky and it was unique
Maybe ur soul is just jaded and u don’t have a sense of humor
Lighten up
@@era8418 Nah they are fun and quirky and unique
Ur soul is just too jaded to see that
And they did well
If kingpin is anything to go by then. by all means, he'll be better alright. as in watered down kid friendly shit. can't believe some of you idiotic mcu fans at the moment 🤣
So we're never gonna see Tom Hardy's venom vs Tom Holland spiderman?
Oh imagine they make a Netflix venom tv show that’s gritty and violent and then connects to mcu like daredevil that would be sick!
He was never in the MCU to stay! He fulfilled the purpose in the MCU that he was always intended to do!
So we can have black suit spidey in the MCU and have sinister six in Sony as well
yeah that makes sense. Only problem is that seemed like a very elaborate thing to do just to get that result. Seems a bit unnecessary.
I love the Venom movies with Tom Hardy but I can't wait to see their version of it in the MCU. Hopefully Tom Holland Spiderman will get the black Symbiote suit
Marvel going the DC route and having two different versions of a character at the same time.
@@DedricSilva OK and What you trying to say? Please don't compare Marvel to Dc.....He'll Nah to the Nah Nah Nah🤣
@@DedricSilva it’s a great idea
@@RodrequezRobinson2001 u missed his point
MCU and Venom don't mix. Venom belongs in his world where he has no restrictions. Can say what he wants, eat who he wants etc. now the question is who will be Agent Venom and when will the symbiote attach to Peter and get a dancing montage haha.
Venom needs to be treated like a villain, but does he only fight other symbiotes?
Exactly that shit boring and lame
I breathed a sigh of relief as he was going back to his Sonyverse ❤️❤️
Same. Keep the crappy Sony Venom out and leave the MCU to do it's own real version
Same, I breathed and later, Andrew Garfield was trading soo much for come back for TAMS after NWH.. And Sony knows Hardy venom has to face Spider Man anyway in future. I can't wait to see Andrew vs Hardy ..Just Wow!!! Sony saved.....
I was mad because I wanted to have Tom Hardy’s venom in MCU
Everything Sony has done with Venom is a joke they literally brought him in and kicked him out of the MCU in two post credit scenes if that isn't proof his movie's are bad I don't know what is hopefully we get a proper symbiote origin story for Venom with Spiderman this time in the MCU without the cringe Emo Parker dancing from Spiderman 3 and miscast Eddie Brock or Antihero Venom without his proper logo from the movies just Venom vs Spiderman story with Tom Hardy finally doing the character justice.
I don’t mind we get two venoms now we still get the hardy venom films and another mcu venom
That’s just extra venom content
Tbh I didn’t want him in the mcu because I got attached to the other characters from that universe and I wanted to see them again
No because they are still gonna continue his movies
We get two venoms
Idk why ur soul is so jaded and why u can’t just have fun
That’s your problem but the venom movies arent bad
People love them and the movies were a hit
It’s a unique take on venom
Eddie Brock will not be the Venom of the MCU.
Honestly don’t like the villains from different universe interact with Tom Holland spider man, they need to put there own Spider-Man villains in there universe, yes it’s cool to see them characters coming back from Spider-Man no way home but they not fit in Tom Holland Spider-Man universe. We only got vulture, shocker, Mysterio, and scorpion if they going to put him in a role and is it just me or when it comes to making a superheroe movie and he director sure know how to kill off a big villain character and not just save them characters for future roles
Armin! Great content over the years, bro. But, as a fellow wrestling fan, don't you mean that Venom was basically in the MCU for about a cup of coffee?
My favorite scene of the movie was when venom went away
Venom was the backup plan if they couldn't get Andrew and Toby.
i hope they still use tom hardy. he's too good being eddie
Eddie Brick won’t be the Venom of the MCU, it’ll be Mac Gargan from Homecoming. But Tom Hardy will be back to actually meet Tom Holland’s Spider-Man.
Hes a good Eddie Brock. However his Venom sounds like Fat Albert and is goofy as f*#&
Venom being kicked out the mcu was the only true laugh I got out of no way home. Great movie, but I knew feige wasn't Fing w venom
@@johngrayson9218 isn't Mac being set up to be Scorpion
@@johngrayson9218 mac Gargan is scorpion right?
After Peter Parker, Flash Thompson will get the Symbiote and become Agent Venom 😱 in the MCU, I am calling it !
You know I'm comfortable with that now that the Eddie Brock version of Venom has had his fare share of screen time.
@@robertkenny1201 In Tom Hollands Universe which is the MCU has no Eddie Brock variant, so that why I am guessing that Flash Thompson will be Venom but I also prefer Eddie Brock version too
Because if Venom gets ahold of HULK.....................Wow
That would be epic.
Not True Marvel wants to start the Eddie character variant differently so two Venoms two Eddies the Symbiont will find MCU Eddie
Marvels not gonna do their own Eddie Brock.
Just hope it’s a Tom Hardy variant
There won’t be an MCU Eddie Brock variant.
@@johngrayson9218yes there will
They really just had to get my hopes up like that. When I saw the end credits scene of Let There Be Carnage, I was so hyped. I really love Tom Hardy’s Venom, and I love the MCU, it would’ve been awesome to get at least some action, like Tom Hardy’s Venom facing off against/teaming up with Tom Holland’s Spider-Man, even if he wasn’t there to stay. I’m gonna be disappointed if they bring Venom into the MCU (like with the goop left behind in the scene), and not use Tom Hardy cause they got up my hopes. I guess we’ll see how this all plays out though, there’s so many directions they could take it at this point so what I stated previously isn’t out of the question at least.
Id LOVE to see Reed Richards of the FF, capture Venom for study
Venom symbiote with Deadpool👀
Also venom being brought in created a plot hole because when doctor strange did the spell the spell was everyone will forget Peter Parker is Spider-Man except everyone who knew I was Spider-Man before the whole world knew still knows but Electro and Tom Hardy venom never figured out
Why people think Sony doesn't have the final say so on their character, if they want in spider-man he's in it.
Soo happy he got booted out. LOL
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or sarcastic
🤣🤣
I certainly wouldnt mind if Flash Thompson becomes Agent Venom in the MCU now that the Eddie Brock version has had his fair share of screen time.
Only thing I don't like about the Venom movie is he doesn't utilize his shape shifting abilities he didn't turn his hands into weapons or release tendrils out he did the bare minimum and attacked with his hands like a brute.
Because Tom Hardy’s venom is all comedy and jokes and not serious and a killer like in the comics
I want TOM Vs. TOM
Same
Hopefully he returns in spiderman 4 to fight spiderman than got rid of him again
Venom was kicked out of the Mcu at the End of Spider Man 🕷 No way Home
i personally hate 2 venom movies especially the second one is one of the worst comicbook movies in the past 10 15 years , so I'm glad now that he is out of mcu there is a possibility that they can make a new better venom
I cannot disagree more, but I’m excited to see a Darker venom alongside the lovable campy venom.
Venom and Venom 2 are comic book B movies and they’re fun and goofy, and to some people that means “Oh it’s so bad, it’s a disgrace” etc. but I honestly love that shit. People need to lighten up, the Venom
Movies are so much fun.
Do not act like 2015's Fantastic 4 movie doesn't exist
@@ryanbollinger1759 thank you
Nah they are fun and quirky and unique
Ur soul is just too jaded to see that
And they did well
Technically, he shouldn’t be able to reference Peter Parker as Spider-Man. The spell should have made him forget
Unless the spell cast at the end of the film made everyone who got sent back to their universe not remember everything that occurred
Venom wasn't zapped back, Eddie Brock was! They left a piece behind so that they can do a proper alien costume story with Spider-Man, don't say that it was a dispute between Sony and Marvel, that's obviously nonsense
I don’t mind we get two venoms now we still get the hardy venom films and another mcu venom
That’s just extra venom content
Tbh I didn’t want him in the mcu because I got attached to the other characters from that universe and I wanted to see them again
Venom movies were awful. Hope they do reboot Venom and symbiote arcs.
I agree
I agree they need to do venom right
Yup
Nah they are fun and quirky and unique
Ur soul is just too jaded to see that
And they did well
@@madnessarcade7447 yeah because having a psycho killer act goofy is doing it well foh
i vote venom and amazing univers!
Thing is that I wonder about that I dont see anyone talking about, the parameters of the spell was that those that knew Peter Parker was spider-man was sent into the MCU, why was Eddy pulled in? Does he know more about spider-man than we know?
Or perhaps it wasn't Eddie that was transported, maybe it was Venom and his collective Symbiote knowledge.
It wasn’t Eddie, but the symbiote bonded with him. Venom mentioned a hive-mind across the multiverse.
@@johngrayson9218 Yeah thats what I was saying with maybe it being Venom and his collective Hive-Knowledge. But even the implications of that cause clearly Venom himself ( Tom Hardy's ) doesnt know Peter Parker, so is he linking with the knowledge of Sam Raimi's Venom? Or another Symbiote entirely?
@@hiitay Good question.
I loved it. Said give us the symbiote take your shitty venom with you.
Honestly that was the most disappointing part of No Way Home. I wanna see Tom vs Tom so badly
I like Tom Hardy’s Venom a lot, but think No Way Home was fine as is. Throw Venom in there and the movie feels bloated IMO
Tom and Tom will meet one day, when Peter mistakes Eddie’s Venom for Mac Gargan’s Venom.
Short answer Venom was trash. In my opinion it made Spider-Man Eddie Brock even better
The Symbiote piece
I hope they give us a good venom character!
I mean honestly he doesn’t even belong in the MCU Universe , now we can actually see that whole thing with Holland getting the symbiote suit in his new trilogy
He fits more of the amazing spiderman world to me
Problem with sony is they have antagonists against spider man but if they wana make antagonists theier own film they must just make one film for each because they don't have any story to tell for 2 nd film
Would mcu venom be considered a variant or venom’s son or both?
Do we call mcu venom
Venom Junior?
How can he be venom and not venom at the sametime
I'd probably call it another son or child of venom if it dropped off
@@kylemccabe1863 how would the mcu address it tho
But how are they gonna explain the post credit scene of venom, cause in theory, anyone who knows Peter's identity got sucked into MCU. Did Tom Hardy's Eddie knew Peter is Spiderman?
His symbiote did since all of them share a hive like mind so it remembered Spiderman from Raimi's universe
@@mikeal-lateef_5138 Thanks, just watched the Venom post credit where he said "80 billion years of hive knowledge accross universeS (plural)."
Hardy is a GOAT and one/both of the studios would be out of their ever-lovin’ noggins to not allow his Eddie/Venom to interact with MCU characters. If anyone couldn’t tell, that’s really what’s needed for Venom at this point - other strong characters to bounce off of. The dynamics would explode off the screen.
Venom 3 Andrew Vs Tom Hardy
Venom for the MCU means we seet up a more comic accurate venom storyline
I just feel like they could’ve done a symbiote story without that… the necrosword already exists
Yes, but then there wouldn’t be that bridge to Sony’s universe for future crossovers
I think they will buy Sony too like they bought Fox studios 🤷♂️😂
I want a rated r venom movie he’s supposed to be scary and terrifying not a jokester
I think this was smart move plus I’m down or whatever I can’t wait for more Venom films plus I can’t wait to see who he’s going against in the 3rd film especially of it will be a multiversal story as well. I’m also hyped about the Symbiote Saga with Holland as well plus we still have the Symbiote Multiverse Hive Mind but I would love to see Venom v. Venom Spidey but if that doesn’t happened I’m still fine with it IMO💯🔥
I like Tom Hardy as Venom, but those movies kinda sucked. The whole relationship subplot with his ex is cringe, and I have issues with a lot of other parts. I would love to see a venom in the MCU, but I hope it's actually good
@@MrE_ aye ik what u mean especially with the ex but I jus want to more Venom bc he’s one my favorite characters and I would to see what the MCU do with the Symbiote Saga with Holland Spidey💯
@@TheNobody8984 100%
Not a fan of the venom franchise and why is Eddie portrayed like he's special Ed?
Also the SONYVERSE has ZERO super hero teams to utilize. They need to talk to Kevin Feige
So how come your the only one reporting a reboot? While everyone else is saying the Sony universe is in Full Swing with Disneys Support
Disney wouldn’t want to work with Sony’s CGI team at present 🤣
Did you see the crap in Shang-Chi?
@@johngrayson9218 Well after it’s success the budget for that department will be upped,I for one wasn’t in rush to watch Venom 2 and although I enjoyed it I saw the clear difference in their product compared to a Marvel Studios movie.
Sony wants to create their own universe... Tom Hardy's Venom will fight Andrew's Garfield Spider-Man eventually!
So Venom and Andrew's Spider-Man were in the same universe all along, and Venom only just heard about Spider-Man with J. Jonah Jameson's doxing video?
I don’t think so. It seems to me that Holland and Hardy will meet eventually. This credit scene was just the groundwork.
I'm so happy
Venom 3 is Venom & Spider-Man tile
But Morbius is in the MCU. Vulture is in it and the Spiderman "Murderer" poster.
I think Morbius will be exploring the multiverse as part of his adventure in the film.
But he's still mcu because a part of him was left behind in the MCU in Spiderman's movie so venom will prob be flash
Hey Sony, here's a fix:
Venom is the main villain-with-redemption-arc in Amazing Spider-Man 3. Followed by Venom 3 team-up vs. Kraven or whomever. Or, vice versa.
Aaaand... go.
For the last damn time. No one wants an Amazing Spiderman 3. Andrew touched you guys' nostalgia and everyone forgets how shitty his movies were. Tom is Spidey. We had enough fan service in NWH. It's time to move on. There's much better stories. No one wants to see a "good" venom. They're rebooting him because they want him to be evil and more accurate