Battlefield - Scandinavia the Forgotten Front
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2019
- Battlefield is an American documentary series that debuted in 1994 on PBS that explores the most important battles fought primarily during the Second World War and the Vietnam War. The series employs a novel approach in which history is described by detailed accounts of major battles together with background and contextual information. The sixth and final series of the program was broadcast in 2002.
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlef...)
Written by: Dave Flitton
Directed by: Dave Flitton
Theme music composer: David Galbraith
Producers: Andy Aitken, Justin McCarthy
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I am so fascinated by the winter war, I really love "a frozen hell" honestly the fact that Finland lasted until March 1940 is a testimant to the fighting prowess of the Finns
Tough men in tough conditions with appropriate tactics
I am not Finn by ancestry, but I admire their resourcefulness and sisu to stand up to Stalin's hoards !
The WW2 "Battlefield" Series is a BRITISH (Not American) produced series by Lamancha Productions of Edinburgh Scotland sold in Britain on Video & DVD, & distributed by Cromwell Productions UK in Europe, and also sold to PBS (TV) in the USA from 1994.
However these programmes eventually extended to 6 series of 6 programmes each. Which extended production until around 2001. By which time some of the earlier programmes had been further expanded. Virtually all programmes ended up being around 1hr 50mins in length. They are quite obviously British as the well known British Commentator Tim Piggott-Smith covered the majority of these programmes.
Who are you arguing with?
@@goodsolonius7305 He's arguing with the video description, which incorrectly states that the series is American in origin.
You can tell because all they talk about is if England was in it. They left out years of WW2 on this front.
The Finns are some tough people,they lost the war but beat up the reds, that's crazy
Lost the war? They fought for independence. Yes they lost a few % where the Russians could berrie their dead.
They were Nazis
@@javiermagana6364 you are a tool. Even the Germans weren't "Nazis". That word was made up by the allies to make people scared of Germany
I'm not even sure you can say they lost the war. Like they ultimately remained a sovereign, non-communist country, even though they openly fought against Stalin. No other countries in Eastern Europe could say that. So the Finns really did fight the Soviets to a standstill.
@@sebastianwilson6380 yeah exactly,I totally agree
The Finn’s gave the Soviets a lesson in winter fighting they would never forget!
I think the russian portion of soviets forgot it.
The Finnish will Never be finished!
My opinion, best WW2 documentory series, intiutive.
Outstanding to see John tackle the many misconceptions, distorted thinking, and propaganda about Israel-Gaza and Russia-Ukraine in the context, not of the usual ambiance of strong agreement between himself and his various hosts, but this time in the context of a much more skeptical or "challenging" format of discussion, forcing John to "stick to his guns" and thereby to more sharply delineate his point of view with regard to those many misconceptions, et. al.
33:56 Despite what you saw in the Tom Hanks D-Day movie, you can't get at the interior of a Tiger tank by firing through its driver's vision port -- it was blocked with bulletproof glass. Was it really different for KV-1s?
34:21 Is this a Panther?
Although Germany lost heavily in terms of naval vessels in the Norwegian Campaign, they actually could afford the losses, simply based on their level of production during the war. The issue of why such masses of ships never appeared in that strength again was more based on Germany's focus on it's massive land Campaigns, as opposed to sea (no choice but to do so, upon waging war on the U S S R).....along with the fact that many Sr leaders in Germany feared losses, and didn't want to gamble their sea fleets in costly large naval battles, and instead preferred commerce raiding instead. Honestly, they could've fought the Norwegian Campaign in terms of the sea power utilized, at least 5 time over based on the number of vessels produced during the war, especially with how large their submarine fleet grew over time, with still a fairly sizable surface fleet.
They couldn't afford the surface fleet losses. They lost 1/3 of their cruisers and half their destroyers.
@@mickkent1826 compared to all the vessels throughout the war, they could afford it. I'm including their sub fleet too. Considering submarines sank capital ships throughout the war by different sides, subs should absolutely be counted along with all the surface ships they had left as well (which was still quite significant)
if you combine everything they built during the whole of the war and then put those losses up sure they could afford it...but they couldnt afford it at that particular time...they had to scrap the carrier they were building and a large portion of there surface fleet was tied up tying up the russian baltic fleet in leningrad....hitler should have done plan z and built the graf zepplin and 100s of uboats, built strategic bombers instead of stukas and expanded the molotov ribbentrop pact while waiting to invade russia until 42 or even 43 while giving more focus on taking the british isles...hitler thought taking soviets would mean destroying the west but it was in fact taking uk out that would give him the means to have been able defeat the soviets@@chadkarr7394
@@kickassandchewbubblegum639 That's what I'm saying. It was affordable, especially considering there were still lots of surface combatants hiding in Fjörds and other areas by 1945. It wouldn't be optimal to have losses, which isn't what I'm saying. I'm simply saying it's a stretch to say they outright "couldn't afford it" when that's not entirely correct. They even had 6 aircraft carriers under construction that they never utilized, due to political reasons/infighting over how to use available resources. Meaning: they just sat there, in dry dock throughout the war. Germany, despite being a relatively small country, still had QUITE an industrial base.....which if it had been employed properly, they'd have producted FAR more than they even did. Nazism was actually quite a bad system for production, mostly due to all the bureaucracy and red tape.
Funny that Denmark is called Finland on the last map!
At 34:22 Is that a Panzer V 'Panther" tank? They def didn't have any of those in Finland, circa 1939-40.
GOD Bless YOU
Yeah they recycle lots of these clips
@@nickphillips4559
Hi Nick! God bless you, brother! Great to see you getting around ~~~~~
Long live Finalnd.
Brushing up on my favorite subject in ww2, the finnish aspects. This is pretty good. More than just events and dates. Cause and affect with some of the thought processes involved.
Sadly, it's NOT very good. Suggested reading: Finland at War by Vesa Nenye; Finland's war of Choice by Heinrich Lunde.
Sadly, there are few publications in English on the Winter War or Continuation War. Always remember that all authors have their own biases. It is always a good idea when you are presented with unsupported 'facts' to ask yourself: 'But is this really the case?' Happy reading
Damn , the Finns took it to the Soviets in the Winter War !! They had an excellent plan and they were fighting on there home turf !! The Soviets must've felt like they had stepped into a huge pile of shit there!
1:42:10 Thats Denmark, not Finland.
This only covers the part with England early in, lol. That front went into 1945 and had many battles and peace treaties.
What with the gross error: panther tank?
Looks like they didn't have too much footage of the winter war to include, you should have sent them your footage
The episodes of the last season of Battlefield all contain some sloppy graphics and poor film choice...nonetheless they highlight some areas of WW2 that don't get enough exposure, IMO....
It’s fukking shocking.
Maybe in the USA !!! However I have some of the later programmes released on DVD as late as 2002 in Britain. By the original producers La Mancha Productions of Edinburgh Scotland which are cristal clear. The other problem in the USA was that US TV pre-digital only had 405 lines. Whereas in Europe we had the higher quality 625 lines system, so effectively 30% clearer !!!!
@@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 I was always obsessed with ww2 and I seriously had to read one of my grandpa's books from decades ago when I was like 20 to find out that Germany conquered France in 1 month and 1 year later Germany ruled virtually all of Europe. In the United States they literally make no mention once of either of those facts in public education. It's the same reason this battlefield series is censored from television. Keep the American public as dumb as possible, plus try to conceal all the obvious similarities between modern USA and nazi Germany. Don't want people to realize that 1930s Germany and 2000s USA have had virtually the exact same narrative
uh, never saw this episode before
these are from time when documentaries were documentaries ;)
Terijoki is badly misplaced in one of your maps.
Im enjoying the narration but what’s with the glaring errors like showing a panther tank? There were none in this war.
Another way to trick people into hating Germany.
@@davidkrouse6904 what a ridiculous statement. It’s common for paranoids to mistake incompetence for an attack? Germany is doing just fine and facing up to her past in a frank and forthright manner has enabled that. The yanks ought to give that a go.
Dear narrator, showing the swedish iron ore mines in Finland shows that you haven't got a clue of what you are talking about!😂
And on another map Denmark suddenly is Finland!
After this documentary, Scandinavian wars remain still forgotten front to English speaking audience. As an American documentary their interest is the British participation in the Norwegian campaign. Completely left out is the biggest war in Northern Europe, Finland's Continuation War which is much bigger, bloodier and longer (from 41 to 44) than Winter War.
At 01:36:46 funnily, in the map reads "Finland" on top of Denmark. Ooops.
Nuts: The Scandinavian campaign was taught in British schools, as it was one of Winston Churchills first Political wartime moves.
And this series is BRITISH produced NOT AMERICAN by Lamancha Productions of Edinburgh Scotland. It also has a well known British Commentator Tim Piggott-Smith. It was sold to PBS in the USA for TV distribution, but in Europe was sold on Video & DVD from 1995, with "expanded/longer" versions produced until 2002 !!!!
Yeah forgotten to english audiences since it was virtually all English soldiers fighting Germany there for the allies. Not forgotten in southeast Asia where you're from apparently. Lots of grandchildren of those brave Cambodian veterans that didn't fight in Norway remember well how they didn't even know what Norway was back then. Also this is a documentary series on world War 2, and Finland didnt take part in world War 2. They just defended themselves from invasion
@@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 idk man that guy sounds pretty smart, he evidently looked at a world atlas at least once in his life so knows where Finland is and that's why he knows more about the English operations in 1940 than the English do. He also asks the really deep questions, like "why doesn't this ww2 documentary series include a separate war that isn't ww2?"
@@goodsolonius7305 I'm from South-East Asia? No, I'm an ethnic Finn.
@@goodsolonius7305 DId you forget the Soviet Union was one of the Allied? About 90% of all the soldiers fighting Germany were Soviets. Nprmandy was in June 1944, when Soviets had advanced to Poland already.
Finns call it "sisu". Look it up.
gotta say the guys in the beginning look like 7' tall lol
It's British, actually
Believe T34 not used in Finish War?!
USSR didn't have T34 yet, right?
Correct.
Great series but people have to remember that the Soviet Union expanded as well, probably more forcefully than Germany (except for Czechoslovakia). Russia forcefully via bullying and other not-so-covert methods took Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and later parts of Finland. But it was the move into Bessarabia Rumania that concerned Germany the most, as it was close to their fuel source of Pelosti Romania. The Mutual assistance treaties from Russia to Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania were not peaceful at all, it was basically a threat to conform or be taken by force. It also goes to show you how ineffective the European Powers were at this time in coordinating any kind of relief or support.
It’s because the Russians needed space to grow and make pickled cabbage.
Why do you believe that it's important for people to remember those things?
Yes Luga, where you now baby? You haven't got this god damn video on your channel have you? Woohoo What you gonna do Luges? Ha ha. He'll probably lay a copyright claim down on your ass. Nice one. Respect for this. Unlucky Luges. ❤️💛💚🇬🇭❤️💛💚
Actually Luga has all of them but some are not available due to copyright blocks
@@tylerjerabek5204 Which four are unavailable on Luga's channel?
What channel it that ??
@@adelafirme
Vasile Luga
At the time Fins didn’t know wot its Nazism.
They search for ally and Hitler gives them material support.
Reds in many cases was same as Nazi
The man who gave the Finns their national insignia on the aircraft was the leader of the Swedish Nazis and his sister was married to Göring!
You're either a Nazi yourself, or you have no idea what you're talking about, making unsubstantiated claims like that.
once a good documentary. Now... overly generalized, sensationalized, incorrect information, outdated information, video footage from 1941-45, lacking analytical data on weapons / equipment both sides used, on and on. It is now too fluffy and incorrect to be considered a useful documentary for research purposes.
Helsinki is joining NATO & is a capital of WEF soon as Russia is defeated their is nothing left to stop a UN dictatorship & left of US will then celebrate total gun control &Fed.now will approve or stop every purchase.But as the capital it has to worry about lake lagoda, again.
Mmm BVC
every minute one lie
Luga produced these documentaries you clown. 🤡🤡🤡 So yeh he should sue for copyright infringement. Lmao 😆😂😆
That's funny... I didn't see anybody named "Vasile Luga" in the credits. All of the descriptions for every episode in this series that "Vasile Luga" posted has this disclaimer:
"I do not own, nor do I or intend to profit from this content whatsoever. "
What are you laughing at, exactly? Is your ass really off?
@@blankay9737 Look, I know that you're trying to be funny but it's not working. I know you think that you're a comedian but you should stick to being a clown 🤡
@@ludaheracles7201 Seems like you're the clown here tho... 😳
@@mrpoggiewoggies8636 yeh with a clown name like Mr poggiewoggie, you are the clown