What I love so much about Battlefield is the depth they go into. Its not just about the title of the video/battlw but the lead up,units,commanders,tactics/operational planning and the aftermath of the battles. Its is so impressive that these documentaries are almost 20 or more years old and are better than most docs we get today!!!!! Not just better than docs od today but hold up after all these years factually also impressiveness and still teach me things I had no idea about these battles!! Ive been watching these since I was a kid. Now im 23 years old and I still enjoy this series!!
Today, the youngest who fought in those epic times are perhaps 94 or 95. While we can watch these presentations, only those elderly gentlemen who shouldered that burden can truly relate to those battles. Thanks for my freedom, gentlemen all.
World War II had nothing to do with "freedom". Churchill made Europe Communist and Islamic. Sebastian Haffner is correct regarding Hitler's role in decolonisation.
I believe the best days lie ahead for The United States of America. It's usually darkest before dawn. Maybe I am naïve, or simply an optimist, but this I believe.@@bruceferraro2138
Excellent. Great grandfather was in the army as a lieutenant for telephone construction lines in germany during all of WW2. He earned a bronze star for establishing communication across the Rhine river for the XVI corps.
Been also watching and re-watching these for about two decades and they never get old. One of the best and entertaining educational series on any topic really.
These are perhaps the best WWII documentary histories ever produced. They are highly detailed and superbly researched, edited and well produced by the British. There is nothing out there as thorough and brilliant as were these 6 series between 1994 and 2002. Series 3, being about the Vietnam War. They were shown on PBS in the US.
@@gsherlock "The World at War" is somewhat panoramic compared to the more detailed "Battlefield" series, and it has no information about Ultra. Being released in 1973, "The World at War" was too early for the 1974 publication of Winterbotham's book, "The Ultra Secret". But sure, "The World at War" is better TeeVee material for most viewers.
@@gsherlock At almost the same time (ca. 1972-73) there was a series also giving Interviews with living generals, journalists and first hand witnesses made by Canada/France called "The War Years" of about 36 one hour episodes covering WWI & WWII. It was later re-branded as "The Big Battles". You can see some of them here (some are blocked by country). ruclips.net/p/PLov0_ped40N9rAWhwJtN0eH2Li9HXZP88 Yes, "The World at War" is excellent in many ways. I have the full DVD set and will pass it on to the grandchildren. My father was RCAF, served in England from March 1940 to November 1944. His two brothers served in the RCN on cruisers & destroyers. There are diaries & letters they wrote at the Canadian War Museum. So I tend to collect war history series.
Battlefield and The World At War are the best 2 series about WW2. Well made and very entertaining. Never get tired of watching this important part of world history.
@@almighty5839 same result, up North 21st army crossed in boats until bridges were built. It just ended the war a week earlier or so Patton got across even earlier unopposed. This isn't to take away from those who fought for the bridge, but it on a micro scale showed just how perfect the US army was by late 44 early 45
All of these wwll documentaries heavily remind me of my Grandad and my GreatGrandad , they were both full-time professional Army officers in the Greek Royal Army. Miss you guys❗
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Orator presented the documentary very well. Class A research . Special thanks to the allied forces who fought/perished /survived undermining the German armies. Making this documentary possible. Also French resistance fighters!!! Rough combat operations on both sides of the conflict. A lost cause for Germany and its allies.
@@muslimamerican4129 I enjoy watching Israel confiscate Arab land, and flatten Palestinian homes with bulldozers. Israel has been beating the bacon out of the Arabs for decades. LOL!!
A WW2 fighter plane veteran goes into a school to give a speech on the war. During the speech he describes a dogfight saying: "these foches flew out of the sky towards me". At this point the teacher steps in and says: "now children, don't get excited; the foche was a type of german fighter plane". The veteran replies: "thats perfectly correct teacher, but in this case, these fuckers were flying messerschmidts".
Thanks very much by this documentary. It stimulates by its precission the spirit of fight and battle, but only with the final cause of to alleviate the humanity from suffering. I, like a Catalan citizen with a past of refugees in family in France from the civil war, want to express my thanks to Eisenhower, Montgomery and Patton, and to all who gave their lives fighting against the tyranny of nazi germany. For me Normandy has a clear and everlasting significance.
these day's people have totally forgotten the meaning an impact of that struggle...nowadays it's all about putting down the very people an governments that got rid of that tyranny.
I wouldn’t idolise the Generals too much... miles behind the front, or sending men to their deaths needlessly. All the men mentioned made some avoidable and costly errors. But spare a thought for the ordinary people, combatants and civilians, who all paid the price for the freedoms we seem to be throwing away in modern times.
Sorry but this is not well done and is full of inaccuracies and bias. It is so slanted for the Brits it verges on propaganda. World at War with Olivier narrating is far superior.
@@ludaheracles7201You know the person who uploaded these videos didn't actually make them right? They were made in the late 90s-early 2000s and this guy has just uploaded them here.
At 1:16:56 an M6 38ton High Speed Field Artillery tractor is pulling a Sherman tank (called a Culin's Rhino when equipped in front with a hedgerow blade) back onto the greasy road in the Hurtgen forest. These tractors were intended to haul 8 inch and 240mm artillery guns, ammunition and a crew of up to 10. Built by Allis Chalmers in Milwaukee Wisconsin and powered by a pair of Waukesha gasoline engines, connected to a common transmission. The tractor had a strong Vertical Volute Spring Suspension system which gave them good ride for the crew and allowed an emergency top speed of 22 mph. It had high reliability and were used for many years afterwards to support massive logging equipment.
That's nice. Most histories skip over the fact that the Canadian army (with Brit and Polish support) was tasked with the dirty job of clearing the Scheldt and opening up Antwerp.
The British support was provided by 156th infantry brigade comprising 3 Scottish battalions, of which my late Dad was one and it remained a standing joke that having been trained as an air-portable mountain division that their first active service was conducted below sea level.
The only campaign Monty won was the desert war, where he finally defeated the Afrika Korp, aiting to have 3 times more tanks and total domination of the skies; plus the help of "ULTRA" ho gave him Rommel's plans before the battle; when he had to prove his skills as a great strategist, he proved to be wrong in Caen later Market Garden...I respect far more Georges Patton.......Blood and guts
Montgomery is probably responsible for thousands of British and American lives by his incompetence. He promised Caen in a day or two; he allowed half of the German army out of the Falaise pocket - he promised to take Argentan but could not -Patton did; Patton wanted to go ahead and take Falaise to close the gap but was stopped. simply look at the map to see how little ground Montgomery was able to advance; he was responsible for keeping the trapped 15th German army in the Calais pocket - trapped bewteen his forces and the Atlantic sea - he didnt - another army escaped on water; this was the same 15th army that helped defeat the Market Garden operations which he designed, he ignored his own intelligence report confirmed by the Dutch underground that there were two panzer armies near arnhem - this is criminal. The worse part is that he claims something like the Market Garden was 95% successful. He also claims that he defeated the Germans in the Battle of the bulge in a press conference in Jan 1945 not even mentioning the Americans.
+Paul Allen To be fair, he got unlucky at Caen, if he'd of got there a day or two earlier it would of been taken quickly, it didn't help him that the airforce carpet bombed it hugely and turned the city into a mini-Stalingrad. Also, simply looking at a map to see how much ground he advanced doesn't explain that his front was up against the most highly concentrated mechanized German formations on any front. Newly arrived units from the Eastern Front included in it. In comparison, Patton was fighting against an organised defensive retreat through hedgerow's trying to avoid his troops been channelled into hidden traps. Different fights entirely.
+Paul Allen Montgomery planned the land campaign for the allied forces in the invasion of of North West Europe and led the ground forces to victory in the Battle of France , ahead of of the scheduled completion date (D+90) and with fewer than anticipated casualties. General Bradley was responsible for the failure to close the the gap in the Falaise Pocket, as he acknowledged in his book 'A Soldier's Story. His subordinate, Patton did not join the battle until 1st August.
+Paul Allen You all will have to ignore this Villa Aston character. On several other posts I have caught him red handed trying to promote a personalized agenda of pro British pride revisionist history. He tries to blame General Bradley, when in fact who was in command of Allied land forces during D-Day??? OH, little Monty, that's right. General Bradley reluctantly followed orders which he KNEW would allow the bulk of the German army to escape. He never forgave himself for this. It is yet another example of his close emotional bond to the soldiers under his command, thus why he was nicknamed "The soldier's General" by his troops. Fact: Montgomery was in command. Fact: when you are in command, YOU are responsible...period. There is no wiggle room here for your revisionist, make Britain look better damned the facts, damn the cost...revisionist blather here boy. Once again, you have been caught red handed trying to lie about history. You really are no challenge at all. Oh, and everybody, one of his favorite things to say in posts is and I quote "I have forgotten more about this subject than you will ever know..do you really think you know more about this than I do?".That is a direct quote from another WWII thread where he tried in that case just plain lies and someone responded back in a post. It's hilarious how he actually see's himself, from a psychological standpoint. Overly bloated with pride and with no justifiable reason to be so. Or is that just a typical British characteristic? I certainly hope not.
+Paul Allen Best thing to do is to just block and mute this Villa Aston character, I have and it was well worth it. People like this baffoon simply feed on controversy. Once blocked, he is just another non existent quantity in YT oblivion. That's the worst possible punishment for someone like that.
+Singular Purpose 'who was in command of Allied land forces during D-Day??? OH, little Monty, that's right.' Your words. Fair enough. As Allied Land Forces Commander, Montgomery was responsible for all ground operations, He was responsible for the things that wrong... and the things that went right. Overlord finished ahead of schedule (fact), with fewer than expected casualties (fact) and ended the war in the west as any sort of contest (generally accepted). Montgomery's tenure as Allied Land Forces Commander ended at the end of August 1944 when Eisenhower took over as Allied Land Forces Commander. He then became responsible for all ground operations including the things that right..and the things that went wrong. Which one do you want?
39:52 the tall pipe is a snorkel for the carburetor. The commentator in the video says it's an exhaust pipe the exhaust pipe was under the vehicle and had a vertical bend in it that prevented water from passing by up into the engine if the motor wasn't running (if there was no holes in the pipe), if the engine was running it didn't even need the bend in the exhaust pipe the flow and pressure of the exhaust gases would keep the water out.
Churchill was the most far sighted leader in the war. He saw the dangers of Nazi Germany long before anyone else did and knew something had to be done. He was also right about Stalin.
MeliorIlle Really? Do tell, I'll be greatly interested to hear your most revered opinion considering it was Hitler who was bent on war from the outset. Or did that little nugget escape your attention?
I love Germany and Germans, as much as possible, having lived there for 4 years, and become intimately familiar with Hesse, Berlin, Grafenburg, Hohenfels, Wildflecken. My first wife was a student at Frederich-Alexander Universitat, at Erlangen.
my father was in the battle of the bulge. he complained about the British taking their supplies , munitions medical supplies and food to be used in the British push up north leaving the Americans short of munitions food and medicines.when the Germans attacked the Americans were left short of everything,their supplies had been stripe by Monty who ha been placed in charge. as as result the Americans lost over 90 000 men due to the shortage of munitions and medical supplies and men. it was not just Americans who die needlessly, but poles who were short changed and who were poured into the battle even though Monty was told the attackers a failure. Monty didn't care about polish , American, Canadian polish or french casualties that were lost. when told about the German counter attack Monty offered relieve the besieged Americans and Canadians in two weeks but Patton was so competent he relieved them in 48 hours even though his forces were twice as far away to relieve the besieged troops there. my father was a Canadian whose troops had been abandoned by Monty. Monty was not only less competent but care nothing about his own men.he was warned previous to his attack on the Rhine bridges, but he risked the entire war to inflate his own ego / Monty was the best helper in the allied army the Germans had.
that is where i got the 90 000 unnecessary deaths because of a shortage of munitions and supplies, all for the glory of Monty, who had to be rescued by Patton anyhow
Your words in 'single quotes'... ‘my father was in the battle of the bulge. he complained about the British taking their supplies , munitions medical supplies and food to be used in the British push up north leaving the Americans short of munitions food and medicines.’ But why should he form such an opinion? There was a temporary priority of supplies for 21st Army Group in only September 1944. The battle of the bulge did not start until December 1944. ‘when the Germans attacked the Americans were left short of everything,their supplies had been stripe by Monty who ha been placed in charge. as as result the Americans lost over 90 000 men due to the shortage of munitions and medical supplies and men.’ Where is there evidence that American forces were short of supplies during the battle of the bulge and that such a shortage caused 90,000 deaths? ‘it was not just Americans who die needlessly, but poles who were short changed and who were poured into the battle even though Monty was told the attackers a failure.’ There were no Polish forces in the battle of the bulge. ‘Monty didn't care about polish , American, Canadian polish or french casualties that were lost. when told about the German counter attack Monty offered relieve the besieged Americans and Canadians in two weeks but Patton was so competent he relieved them in 48 hours even though his forces were twice as far away to relieve the besieged troops there.' There were no Canadian forces in the bulge. The only besieged American forces were in the southern half of the bulge. Montgomery was asked to take charge of the northern half of the bulge and therefore this matter was nothing to do with him. In any case, it took 10 days to relieve those besieged Americans, not 48 hours. ‘my father was a Canadian whose troops had been abandoned by Monty.’ According to what you stated above, your father was in the battle of the bulge. There were no Canadians in the bulge. So what was he, American or Canadian? ‘Monty was not only less competent but care nothing about his own men.’he was warned previous to his attack on the Rhine bridges, but he risked the entire war to inflate his own ego / Monty was the best helper in the allied army the Germans had.’ Montgomery’s casualty record was better than any other senior allied commander - the statistics make that absolutely clear. When did Montgomery risk the entire war to inflate his own ego? As I stated, read a history book.
as the result of his serving in the us army i am a dual citizen and so are my children. at that time the us Canadian border was open, no restrictions. many an outlaw came to Canada to escape american law. the draft dodgers of the Vietnam war is the latest example.
The absolute slaughter in the final throws of the third reich was horrific to say the least. The clock began ticking down on Hitler and his armies the second his sappers crossed into Soviet held territory to start Operation Barbarossa.
A copyright must be registered in each country where protection is desired. The UK cannot issue a copyright for the USA. Neither can the USA grant a copyright for the UK. Who holds the copyright is a question completely separate from who produced the copyrighted work. This work is obviously a UK production. Clear evidence of this is the narrator's pronunciation of “OOsterbeek”, “Bastogne” and many other place names which are pronounced as the Brits do not as the Americans do. The narrator’s pronunciation is NOT that of the native language e.g. Dutch in the case of “OOsterbeek”, and French in the case of “Bastogne”.
Exactly. See Enterprise or Patton 360 the History Channel produced several years ago. The narrator is cheesy as hell and I'm not a huge fan of the video game like CGI.
Approving Market-Garden was one of the worst decisions Ike ever made. M-G was all about Monty's ego & should NEVER have been attempted. The proper mission of 21st AG was to open Antwerp. They likely could have done so a month earlier than they did. The Western Allies might then have been able to penetrate the Siegfried Line & advance to the Rhine months earlier. Advancing on Berlin likewise made no sense & Ike wisely refused to do it. Strange that the docu profiled the P-38 when the P-47 & Typhoon were far more important to the Rhine campaign.
***** Don't know enough to debate but have read some stuff & seen some docus. Never seen any suggestion paras were incompetent but rather that they were victims of the incompetence of others.
***** My perception has always been that, whatever the impact of poor staff work, the main failing of Market-Garden is that it was an ill-conceived effort inspired mostly by Monty's ego.
saulpaulus -- Arnhem was really the last straw for the Americans who had to putting up with Monty's arrogance. He did some brilliant work re-building 8th Army and planning Overlord, but his set-piece battles always underachieved their goals. And the British generals he had working under him with were seldom up to standard to deal with the Germans. Max Hastings, the British historian, made the general statement that only one corps commander in the 21st Army Group was better than mediocre, as compared to half a dozen in the 12th Army Group.
saulpaulus Responsibility for Market Garden ultimately lay with General Eisenhower who by the time of Market Garden was Land Forces Commander and Supreme Allied Commander. In fairness it should be pointed out Eisenhower did not disown the project. At a later date he stated: "I not only approved Market Garden, I insisted upon it." The airborne landings (Market) were the responsibility of the First Allied Airborne Army and its American commander Lieutenant-General Lewis Brereton. The US provide the greater part of the air transport - nearly all of British troops that landed by parachute at Arnhem were transported to the drop zones by US manned aircraft. The whole air transportation plan was the work of the Lieutenant-General Lewis Brereton and his staff. Compared to the Western front as a whole, Market Garden was not that big an undertaking. It was an attack using one corps of the British Second Army who were given a temporary priority in supplies and some, not all of the allied airborne forces, who at that time were in reserve. There was an amount of pressure from the USA for Eisenhower to deploy the allied airborne forces. Twenty First Army Group was the only formation at that time that was in a geographical position to be able to work with a large airborne force for a worthwhile objective. Montgomery was under quite different pressure - to do all he could to bring the war to an end as soon as possible, to minimise casualties due to British manpower shortages and, at the time of Market Garden to act against the ‘V Weapons’ campaign against London which was killing thousands of civilians, something that Americans could not relate to. A proportion of these weapons were being aimed at Britain from launch sites in the Netherlands.
Thank you very much for taking the time to post all of these great War Films. I am old enough to remember watching some of these types of Documentaries in High School in both American and Canadian History (Canadian School).
I can understand where you're coming from. They did fight bravely and skillfully against incredible odds. But . . . they would never have had to defend the Fatherland against intruders if they hadn't intruded on so many other peoples' Fatherlands/Motherlands.
Some of you folk should read Winston Churchills 2 world war series of books.The man, for all his human faults was usually right.It would be a very different world had he not lived.
The United States and its allies are the most dedicated and faithful servants for peace and diplomacy in the world. The USA is a land of endless opportunity and wealth! I'm proud and honored to be an American. Give thanks to our men and women of the Armed Services oooorah!
My grandfather told me that one day in camp, Gen. Patton got up on a tree stump and told all the men there that they were crossing the Rhine, even if he had to bring the ID tags back in a 6x6. Hell of a time that made some seriously tough men.
Monty had so many humiliations that in the end he did take a risk - well he risked his soldiers lives - and went for Market Garden. This operation has gone down in history as the last German victory of the war. Couldn't have done it without Montgomery. Directly that cost many lives. Indirectly it cost more by diverting resources and raising German morale and thereby prolonging the war.
Well his biggest was Market Garden. Caen too. Caen was supposed to be taken by Monty on the very night of D-Day instead it took weeks. Also in Caen what is called the ride of death saw Monty get 200 Churchill tanks and it's crew destroyed in a fatal mistake. Monty was very cautious at Caen which I believe caused the mishaps. Even in Sicily Monty was moving slow. But to be fair the UK did not have the manpower to throw around like the US did so many attribute his hesitancy to lack of manpower. In the end I believe Monty was a capable commander with flaws.....
Phillip IV By the time of Market Garden Eisenhower was both Supreme Commander and Land Forces Commander. He bore the ultimate responsibility for the operation. He dithered for a fatal week week before giving the go-ahead. Given the opportunities that Market Garden presented, Eisenhower, Montgomery and Bradley all said yes to the operation. Caen was a D-Day target, not a requirement. Other D-Day targets that were not reached were: Carentan, Saint-Lo, the Omaha Utah link up and the Omaha Gold link up. As Land Forces Commander, Montgomery delivered victory in France ahead of the scheduled completion date (D+90) and with 22% fewer than expected casualties. When was the 'ride of death' of '200 Churchill tanks and it's crew destroyed' recorded? I have never heard of it. Nor has my father - who was on Churchill tanks in Caen. As for Sicily, as in Normandy, the bulk of German Forces were tied down by British forces. The only person who played up was the single army commander Patton who was clearly seeking opportunities for personal glory.
"Caen was supposed to be taken by Monty on the very night of D-Day instead it took weeks." - No plan survives contact with the enemy. I'm not a big fan of Monty but simply saying "The plan was to take it by X, but instead it took until Y" is very disingenuous unless you give SPECIFIC INSTANCES as to why the delay was 1) Unnecessary and 2) Monty's singular fault.
‘The March 24 operation sealed the fate of Germany. Already, of course, we had secured two bridgeheads farther to the south. But in each of these cases surprise and good fortune had favoured us. The northern operation was made in the teeth of the greatest resistance the enemy could provide anywhere along the long river. Moreover, it was launched directly on the edge of the Ruhr and the successful landing on the eastern bank placed strong forces in position to deny the enemy use of significant portions of that great industrial area.’ - US General Dwight D Eisenhower
Per usual left out Book and Page,hold on I'll give you some facts. *From My Three Years With Eisenhower,by Capt.Harry C.Butcher,p.675 - Sept 24,1944,Monty had been pressing for more supplies to 21st Army Group.IKE informed Monty that he had given preference to the left flank(21st Army) through out the campaign* Including the attachments of Air Borne and everything to assure the maintenance.On the other hand all other forces had been fighting with a halter around their necks with respect to supplies. *IKE illustrated that for 4 days straight Patton had been receiving serious counter attacks,yet in 7 days without attempting to any real advance 3rd Army captured 9,000 prisoners and knocked out 270 tanks* The Gerries actually had a real Field Marshall named Model.Who BTW couldn't believe some moron tried to shoehorn a whole column of armor up one single road for 64 miles.But in London this is BRILLIANT,SMDH.and of course Model and Student were present during hostilities while the lewd lemur Monty was a no show *From Eisenhower's Armies,by Dr Niall Barr,page 415* After the failure of Market-Garden,Eisenhower held a conference on 5 October 1944 that not only provided a post mortem on the operation but in which he reiterated his strategy for the campaign.Alan Brooke was present as an observer,noted that IKE's strategy continued to focus on the clearance of the Scheldt Estuary,followed by an advance on the Rhine,the capture of the Ruhr and a subsequent advance on Berlin.After a full and frank discussion in which Admiral Ramsey criticised Montgomery freely,Brooke was moved to write,"I feel that Monty's strategy for once is at fault,instead of carrying out the advance on Arnhem he ought to have made certain of Antwerp in the 1st place.... *IKE nobly took all the blame on himself as he had approved Monty's suggestion to operate on Arnhem"*
Give Patton the weapons & gas he needed, and the US Army could have been in Berlin by the end of '44. No Berlin Wall then and a big black eye for Stalin.
I’m proud that Canada punched above its weight! We were only a country of ten million or so at the time. I see why we earned a strong place in the post war order, I’m sorry that our present leadership has squandered that place and good will!
No. I personally despise the Soviet Union for personal reasons being Polish. However, there is no way that Allies would have had the success without the Soviet Union. Credit must be given where it is due. Without Stalin , USSR would have fallen apart, without USSR , the USA/UK would have to face Germany and Japan. Soviet Union's mass assault doctrine which threw Soviet soldiers at the Germans in a sense, over-ran the limited supplies and manpower in the Eastern Front.
The worst time to be a soldier is the end when the outcome is not in doubt but the enemy is still very capable of causing casualties you realize it’s almost over and this is not a time to be stupid and never get home the enemy has no chance and nothing to lose if you’re not going to let yourself be captured you’re going to fight to the bitter end
My grandfather fought from the allied side in Burma against japanese as an Indian and ... He spoke very little on it during his life ... He died in 2016 at the age of 98 ..
This is why politicians should be fighting on the front line worrying about the lives of the soldiers rather than the gains that could be made after the fighting
You mean like when he won in North Africa, Sicily, Normandy, the northern part of the Bulge and the Rhine? He brought somethging to the war that Eisenhower and Bradley did not have - personal combat experience.
Even If the Allies never left France after D-Day the Germans were being over run by the overwhelming Russian advance and would have lost . We advanced to Germany so the Russians would not take the entire country of Germany. Stalin was not know for handing back lands he liberated.
John Smith Who the fuck cares? The third reich was the most powerful army at this time. Luckily the americans joined and the Winter in Russia began. If not, there had won the germans. France and Britian sucked against Germany like in the WWI. Only because Rothschild offered the british government the US Army to get palestine you guys won the first world war. Balfour Declaration.. ever heard of it? And also.. germany offered britian and france peace letters in all two WW's. But you guys refused. You can literally the mess which does exist today because you thought that globalistic dickheads are better then nationalsocialists who took the term "social" really leteral. Did you ve ever researched the political goals of nationalsocialism?
TheVilla Aston ignorantly wrote He brought somethging to the war that Eisenhower and Bradley did not have - personal combat experience. ---------------------------------------------------- Listen Village Idiot i'll present it real easy like that even you can understand....maybe.Great Britain and France attacked Germany in May'40 .In June Germany threw GB & France off of the continent.Who do you think you're bullshitting? The rest of the nations of Europe know that this happened.They also know that GB never crossed the Channel for exactly 4 years.But only after the GI's went in. We all clear now?
1:09:53 is actually footage from Oktober 1944 Wochenschau and these Panthers belong to 23 Panzer division in the battle of current Oradea in Romania. Less than 10% of the images here are from the western war or Normandy.
One of my late Dad's closest cousins was an American Army Paratrooper who was killed in Operation Market Garden. His division landed right into the middle of a Waffen SS division.
A further point of fact, Cousin Corporal Carman S. Ladner, my Great Aunt Ida Mae (Wood) Ladner's youngest son served in the American 501st Parachute Regiment. He was born in Canada on Prince Edward Island He died for my freedom.
I'm an Austrian and I agree with you. Although one *should* use the "native" name of landmarks and cities, it's perfectly acceptable to use translations.
Well, at this time, the german army was no longer the superb fighing machine it was in previous years. German forces were committed to two other front, italy and the sovjet union. And those fronts, expecially the eastern front, contained the bulk of german forces.
I know a lot of people like to shit on France for WW2, but give some credit to the Frenchman's that still continued to fight. Much love from Texas you crazy Frenchies.
They fought to protect Dunkirk so the Brits could pull out 300,000 forces instead of the 30,000 they initially hoped to save. Lousy leadership and planning doomed France, not the quality of their troops. And in WWI they endured some of the most hardship.
Those who flew the P-38 Lightening said it was like driving a Cadillac. Smooth, very fast, powerful. A flight of sixteen P-38s intercepted Admiral Yamamoto's plane (one of two Betty bombers) and six escorting Zeroes, as I recall. He was shot down over the jungle of Bougainville on 4/18/43. He was visiting various islands as a morale boost for Japanese troops. Didn't work out quite as he'd planned thanks to our code breakers who knew his itinerary and also knew that he was compulsively punctual. The USA had a score to settle with him. Those P-38 pilots saw to that in what was a nearly perfect mission.
+18tangles P-38s served their purposes in Europe. They could fly higher and faster than any other fighter and were therefore good for reconnaissance/photography. Their range was greater than any other fighter, so until the introduction of the 'drop-tank' P-51D in 1944, they were a preferred escort for bomber squadrons. They could also carry a 1K pound bomb. -- My mother worked on P-38 assembly in Burbank. She was a spot welder. At the same time, my father was in the 3rd Division, 1st Army, in France and Germany.
I'm not claiming that the P-38 was the very best at any one thing, (although it can be argued that it was for reconnaissance) what I am saying is that it was very good at many different things. Sometimes versatility is just as valuable an asset as specialization.
I don't know why so many commentators think Hitler was foolish to "use his forces on one last gamble". He had always been a gambler and this time he really had very little to lose: yes, the end would come sooner if they failed, but Hitler was only interested in victory, not defeat a few months later.
You make a reasonable point. Is it also the case that Hitler fought everywhere because he had nowhere else to go. How could he admit defeat to his people?
Sure, he should have done it. Except for all of the Germans who lost their lives directly due to his actions, and all of the additional destruction that occurred, but yeah, he was right. Sure.
@@paigetomkinson1137 The point I'm making is about strategy during the war and whether, from the perspective of Germany trying to win the war, the decision to gamble on this offensive made sense.
@@paigetomkinson1137 No, he didn't. But he thought the war could still be won. The thing that I'm really talking about though is military history commentators saying the troops would have been much better used in a defensive role which would have prolonged the war for longer and probably cost more lives. My point is, Hitler didn't care about losing less quickly, only about winning.
Nijmegen is pronounced "nye-MAY-GUN" not "Nidge-megan." At least that is how the Dutch pronounced it in all the time I worked in Eindhoven. But who knows... maybe the Dutch don't know how to pronounce the names of their own cities. Anyway, I still love the post, so don't have a coronary responding in attack. It's just a small pronunciation teaching moment and doesn't detract from the great post. The narrator accidentally went "A Pronunciation Too Far."
Japan declared war on the us just like they did Russia back in the early 1900s. They sent it at a weird time so the attack on Pearl Harbor happened before the declaration got to the us
several american generals complained about Monty's attitude, most of all Patton who was less diplomatic and why he was fired in the end/ his performance cause him to be denied the occupation of the Ruhr.
My great grandfather was crossing the Rhine taking over a German tower and was hit eight times in the back and walked out standing.The holes in his back you could fit your fist in them.
This is the truth about what happened when both the Americans and British were about to capture the entire 7th army. Patton went straight for the attack and took his half, however Montgomery refused and said that they "needed more fuel and ammo" to do this when they had plenty (this was a typical WW1 strategy where you have tons of fuel and ammo and make a massive attack on the enemy). Patton was furious about this and had to encircle what remained of the German 7th army in that encirclement. Montgomery had made many mistakes in his strategies especially Operation Market Garden: the British failed to acquire any bridges whatsoever while the Americans captured 5 and remained with 2 once the main force arrived.
Well we can't let that be known can we? Remember the Americans apparently didn't fight in ww2 they only financed and supported people lol Japan fought a ghost and the US was never in italy or france ect...
Monty lost a lot. What he won he won with overwhelming superiority in men, materials, and air support. And then barely.. and poorly. *Road to Victory,Winston Churchill 1941-45,by Martin Gilbert* A British War cabinet memo suggested that the appointment of Monty was from the point of view of it's reception by public opinion.Apparently that clinched the War Cabinet's vote for Montgomery;based strictly on military accomplishments,the case for monty was very weak *Eisenhower & Montgomery at the Falaise Gap,by William Weidner,page 317* Montgomery got along with neither the Americans nor the Canadians.After Dunkirk the French absolutely refused to serve under a British commander. *The Eisenhower Papers,volume IV,by Edward Chandler* By early September Montgomery and other Allied leaders thought the Wehrmacht was finished .It was this understanding that led Monty to insist on the Market-Garden Operation over the more mundane task of opening the port of Antwerp. *He ignored Eisenhower's letter of Sept 4 assigning Antwerp as the primary mission for the Northern Group of Armies* Listen Village Idiot i'll present it real easy like that even you can understand....maybe.Great Britain and France attacked Germany in May'40 .In June Germany threw GB & France off of the continent.Who do you think your bullshitting?The rest of the nations of Europe know that this happened.They also know that GB never crossed the Channel for exactly 4 years.But only after the GI's went in
I was and still am a huge fan of WWII history and I have zero tolerance for inaccuracies and deceptions when it comes to books, videos, films & documentaries on WWII. It's always irritated me when all of these venues have either excluded or covered up all the failed missions, battles and/or campaigns of Bernard Law Montgomery aka "Monty". The man was loathed by so many high ranking officials in all of the allies militaries, not to mention many of his own military officials. Monty was so arrogant & self righteous that it cost many, many lives both his own countrymen and the countless lost lives of Britain's allies. I always found it interesting that when doing research throughout the decades concerning the war and Monty's part in it, what one learns from the US and England in many cases is quite different when you compare those to the stories told by the other allies to include Germany. England needed a hero badly during and right after WWII and because of a personal favor from "Ike" to Churchill, Monty became Britain's hero rather than being disgraced and ruined by being fired for his arrogance & incompetence like "Ike" wanted. I always said from my college days (late 70'/early 80') that if I ever got the chance to visit Europe and see England, I would go straight to Binstead to piss on Monty's grave and I finally got to make my mark in 2002. England lost that war and if not for the combined efforts of the allies, Brits would be speaking "Deutsch" to this very day and they need to remember that!
+Texas Hi-Railer ‘It's always irritated me when all of these venues have either excluded or covered up all the failed missions, battles and/or campaigns of Bernard Law Montgomery aka "Monty". ‘ Your words.What failed missions, battles / campaigns? ‘Monty was so arrogant & self righteous that it cost many, many lives both his own countrymen and the countless lost lives of Britain's allies.’ Your words. And yet Montgomery had the lowest casualty rates of any senior allied commander. As I understand the most comparable US senior commander for keeping casualties under control was MacArthur in the Far East. 18tangles may well be able to correct me on this. ‘England needed a hero badly during and right after WWII’ Your words.Wrong, its England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales (The United Kingdom). Montgomery happened to be the man in charge when the big victories started happening and as a consequence he received an amount attention. The whole thrust of British wartime propaganda and reporting of the war was to emphasise the collective effort and the role of the ordinary men and women in winning the war rather than politicians, generals etc. This emphasisis easy to discern in the many feature films produced during this this period. ‘The Foreman Went to France’, ‘Went the Day Well’ and ‘Millions Like Us’ are just three of many such films. As well as this, press reporting and government publications also looked to emphasise the collective effort. For example, the official history of the Battle of Britain published in 1941 did not even mention the head of Fighter Command: Air Chief Marshal Hugh Dowding. End of. ‘and because of a personal favor from "Ike" to Churchill, Monty becameBritain's hero rather than being disgraced and ruined by being fired for his arrogance & incompetence like "Ike" wanted.’ Your words. Eisenhower never had the authority to sack Montgomery. Montgomery reported to his superiors in Britain and any attempt to have Montgomery dismissed would have had to have been in the form of a request to those authorities. In any case, what grounds were there for such a request? Montgomery had planned and led the land battle in France in 1944 which ended ahead of schedule and with fewer than expected casualties. By the time of Market Garden Eisenhower had become land forces commander and thus was directly responsible for the decision to launch that operation. After that time, Eisenhower quickly turned to Montgomery for help during the Battle of the Bulge panic and Montgomery launched the text book crossing of the Rhine by British, Canadian and US forces in the last stages of the war. ‘England lost that war and if not for the combined efforts of the allies, Brits would be speaking "Deutsch" to this very day and they need to remember that!’ Your words.So when and how was Germany going to invade and enforce the German language on Britain? ‘I always said from my college days (late 70'/early 80') that if I ever got the chance to visit Europe and see England, I would go straight to Binstead to piss on Monty's grave and I finally got to make my mark in 2002.’ Your words. I will leave you to your ignorance on this one. Let me know if I have missed anything.
+18tangles Yes Tangles same old same same blah blah blah and you wonder where I have been. Tell us about the green boys from cool Wisconsin sent to the jungles of New Guinea to cover for an army that ran off to find romance in the North African desert when the Japanese were beating the war drums. yes please disparage our boys and show off your ignorance. You have learned nothing. Anyway I'm fine I hope you are well. Don't you get tiered of this same old nonsense?
+18tangles No body is talking about how or why Japan got aggressive only that when she did your politicians had their nose stuffed so far up Britain's arse that they left Australia vulnerable in the face of that aggression. Hindsight is 20/20 but you are still blind. 18 year old farm boys leave Wisconsin and go to the Jungles of New Guinea to help shore up Australias defenses and you continue to disparage them. Of course the Americans used Australia as a forward base of operations but those boys went for a reason far more honorable than what your answer would be and you are to old to sound like a 12 year old you tube wind bag.
I’m a long distance truck driver and I’ll play these one after another as I carry on. Thank you for the education.
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What I love so much about Battlefield is the depth they go into. Its not just about the title of the video/battlw but the lead up,units,commanders,tactics/operational planning and the aftermath of the battles. Its is so impressive that these documentaries are almost 20 or more years old and are better than most docs we get today!!!!! Not just better than docs od today but hold up after all these years factually also impressiveness and still teach me things I had no idea about these battles!! Ive been watching these since I was a kid. Now im 23 years old and I still enjoy this series!!
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I loved this series as a kid!
Today, the youngest who fought in those epic times are perhaps 94 or 95. While we can watch these presentations, only those elderly gentlemen who shouldered that burden can truly relate to those battles. Thanks for my freedom, gentlemen all.
I think about that all the time. I’m sorry they are witnessing the destruction of the US today.
World War II had nothing to do with "freedom".
Churchill made Europe Communist and Islamic.
Sebastian Haffner is correct regarding Hitler's role in decolonisation.
I believe the best days lie ahead for The United States of America. It's usually darkest before dawn. Maybe I am naïve, or simply an optimist, but this I believe.@@bruceferraro2138
Freedom? Lol you are delusional.
Excellent. Great grandfather was in the army as a lieutenant for telephone construction lines in germany during all of WW2. He earned a bronze star for establishing communication across the Rhine river for the XVI corps.
This narrator is so much better than Battlefield's later seasons.
Such a great narrator...
Timothy Peter Pigott-Smith. RIP
26 Years and I still enjoy this series.
Been also watching and re-watching these for about two decades and they never get old. One of the best and entertaining educational series on any topic really.
I love old history buffs. I love archaeologists too. Something about a hot older guy in a tight fitting tweed suit.
These are perhaps the best WWII documentary histories ever produced. They are highly detailed and superbly researched, edited and well produced by the British. There is nothing out there as thorough and brilliant as were these 6 series between 1994 and 2002. Series 3, being about the Vietnam War. They were shown on PBS in the US.
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There is a series called "The World at War" from the 70's narrated by Lawrence Olivier thats actually better than this.
@@gsherlock "The World at War" is somewhat panoramic compared to the more detailed "Battlefield" series, and it has no information about Ultra. Being released in 1973, "The World at War" was too early for the 1974 publication of Winterbotham's book, "The Ultra Secret". But sure, "The World at War" is better TeeVee material for most viewers.
@@DataWaveTaGo Interviews with living generals, journalists and first hand witnesses is its strength.
@@gsherlock At almost the same time (ca. 1972-73) there was a series also giving Interviews with living generals, journalists and first hand witnesses made by Canada/France called "The War Years" of about 36 one hour episodes covering WWI & WWII. It was later re-branded as "The Big Battles". You can see some of them here (some are blocked by country).
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Yes, "The World at War" is excellent in many ways. I have the full DVD set and will pass it on to the grandchildren. My father was RCAF, served in England from March 1940 to November 1944. His two brothers served in the RCN on cruisers & destroyers. There are diaries & letters they wrote at the Canadian War Museum. So I tend to collect war history series.
Battlefield and The World At War are the best 2 series about WW2. Well made and very entertaining. Never get tired of watching this important part of world history.
Excellent documentary. Though British produced, it's fair, honest, & balanced. Well done !
I’m sorry you were expecting an American prediction??
"Though British produced"? The fuck is that supposed to mean?
1:01:30 The Canadian flag they're showing is historically inaccurate!
What a fabulous doc. Many thanks, Vasile. Many.
It was a blessing that US troops came across the Bridge at Remagen, intact.
Yes who knows what would of happened if that bridge was blown up
@@almighty5839 same result, up North 21st army crossed in boats until bridges were built.
It just ended the war a week earlier or so
Patton got across even earlier unopposed. This isn't to take away from those who fought for the bridge, but it on a micro scale showed just how perfect the US army was by late 44 early 45
It may well have been a curse from the beast himself... Remember; he is the master of deception. ✝️ 🙏 ✝️
@@Jimmybarth you're right
@@almighty5839 Yes who knows what *would have* happened.
This is probably my favorite set of documentary don’t care how old it is it provides the most facts and information
I really like these videos cos everything is good, music, narration, the sequences, explation etc...
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All of these wwll documentaries heavily remind me of my Grandad and my GreatGrandad , they were both full-time professional Army officers in the Greek Royal Army. Miss you guys❗
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Orator presented the documentary very well. Class A research . Special thanks to the allied forces who fought/perished /survived undermining the German armies. Making this documentary possible. Also French resistance fighters!!! Rough combat operations on both sides of the conflict. A lost cause for Germany and its allies.
Patton was a brilliant general, and a real leader of men. West Point isn't producing officers like him anymore.
American soldiers too busy crying about PTSD after seeing their buddies legs blown off by ISIS lmao
@@muslimamerican4129 I enjoy watching Israel confiscate Arab land, and flatten Palestinian homes with bulldozers. Israel has been beating the bacon out of the Arabs for decades. LOL!!
"WE DEFEATED THE WRONG ENEMY!" Patton was murdered for speaking the truth
@@muslimamerican4129 I mean, any sane person, soldier or not, should be traumatized by such a thing if they have any ounce of soul left in them.
Legally Resisting Tyranny Recalled model???
God bless all of the Allied troops who fought to win the Battle for the Rhine. Those were some brave men.
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A WW2 fighter plane veteran goes into a school to give a speech on the war. During the speech he describes a dogfight saying: "these foches flew out of the sky towards me". At this point the teacher steps in and says: "now children, don't get excited; the foche was a type of german fighter plane". The veteran replies: "thats perfectly correct teacher, but in this case, these fuckers were flying messerschmidts".
Fuckin' Jets
why would children get excited when he said foches "fo sheys"? Also why would he switch to fucker? You are stupid
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Stick to reading jokes in your own language, whatever that is.
Fockers*
James Snee I speak American dumbass
14:40 Factual error - I believe that Germany declared war on the USA, not the other way around.
Manning Bartlett Correct
Manning Bartlett 10 Dec. 1941. You are correct.
Manning Bartlett He probably meant when the US returned the war declaration
Manning Bartlett The U.S. declared war on Japan. Japan and Germany were allies which forced Germany to declare war on the U.S.
Yes but the US still had to declare war on Germany
Das Filmmaterial ist gut geeignet, um die Englischkenntnisse zu verbessern. Langsamer und deutlicher Sprecher mit britischem Akzent, das ist top.
that "Fucker Wolf" plane sure is something
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Fantastic series. Remember watching these on tv. Thanks
Thanks very much by this documentary. It stimulates by its precission the spirit of fight and battle, but only with the final cause of to alleviate the humanity from suffering. I, like a Catalan citizen with a past of refugees in family in France from the civil war, want to express my thanks to Eisenhower, Montgomery and Patton, and to all who gave their lives fighting against the tyranny of nazi germany. For me Normandy has a clear and everlasting significance.
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these day's people have totally forgotten the meaning an impact of that struggle...nowadays it's all about putting down the very people an governments that got rid of that tyranny.
I wouldn’t idolise the Generals too much... miles behind the front, or sending men to their deaths needlessly. All the men mentioned made some avoidable and costly errors.
But spare a thought for the ordinary people, combatants and civilians, who all paid the price for the freedoms we seem to be throwing away in modern times.
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LOVE this series, so well done and well explained.. thank you for uploading
Sorry but this is not well done and is full of inaccuracies and bias. It is so slanted for the Brits it verges on propaganda. World at War with Olivier narrating is far superior.
@@doug3469 What is biased about it?
@@doug3469 you can't say it can you? You can't say what's biased about Luga's presentation?
@@ludaheracles7201You know the person who uploaded these videos didn't actually make them right? They were made in the late 90s-early 2000s and this guy has just uploaded them here.
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Gotta admit the germans were some real warriors. Mounting offensive maneuvers when anyone else would have shored up the home front. Badass indeed.
If you like WW2 documentaries then you’ll love this!
The eagle eye view of both allied and axis leaders was very well done, educational for me.
At 1:16:56 an M6 38ton High Speed Field Artillery tractor is pulling a Sherman tank (called a Culin's Rhino when equipped in front with a hedgerow blade) back onto the greasy road in the Hurtgen forest. These tractors were intended to haul 8 inch and 240mm artillery guns, ammunition and a crew of up to 10. Built by Allis Chalmers in Milwaukee Wisconsin and powered by a pair of Waukesha gasoline engines, connected to a common transmission. The tractor had a strong Vertical Volute Spring Suspension system which gave them good ride for the crew and allowed an emergency top speed of 22 mph. It had high reliability and were used for many years afterwards to support massive logging equipment.
Sounds pretty good.
I grew up with this series🙏🏾 thanks
Thank God Patton crossed the Rhine two days before Montgomery did. Well done sir!
God bless the soul of General Patton. RIP soldier.
Why does God need to be thanked?
@@thevillaaston7811 So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the Glory of God. (Corinthians 10:31)
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How do people benefit from Patton crossing the Rhine two days before Montgomery?
@@thevillaaston7811 It ended the war that much sooner.
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What 2 days?
That's nice. Most histories skip over the fact that the Canadian army (with Brit and Polish support) was tasked with the dirty job of clearing the Scheldt and opening up Antwerp.
The British support was provided by 156th infantry brigade comprising 3 Scottish battalions, of which my late Dad was one and it remained a standing joke that having been trained as an air-portable mountain division that their first active service was conducted below sea level.
Canada was Involved?
Canada never goes to a war
@@Michiganian8 just shut up and listen, stop trolling
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@ 1:35:03 is the cheeky sign "Cross the Rhine with Dry Feet, Courtesy of the 9th Army"
Actually Monty reminds me a bit of the civil war general McClellan. Both of them, legends in their own minds
Monty was a real handbreak to the allies. He had the face of a rat but wanted to be treated like a lion.
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The only campaign Monty won was the desert war, where he finally defeated the Afrika Korp, aiting to have 3 times more tanks and total domination of the skies; plus the help of "ULTRA" ho gave him Rommel's plans before the battle; when he had to prove his skills as a great strategist, he proved to be wrong in Caen later Market Garden...I respect far more Georges Patton.......Blood and guts
constantinos diacoumidis he did plan Overlord, maybe not a complete idiot?
McCellan had a massive army and refused to even fight with it, claiming he was always outnumbered. At least Monty would fight
It’s amazing what man is capable of when at war. If our politicians can use the same determination to solve the worlds problems, we wouldn’t have any!
So true!
It’s amazing what man is capable of when brain washed.
Most world problems are in fact caused by politicians...
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Orly Oliverio don’t hold your breath
This is one of the best war documentary series. I have been looking all over for this but haven't been able to find it.
Agreed. This is by far my favorite.
Very informative. No fluff or pointless reenactments. And as neutral as it can be considering winner's bias.
The best
lol Nidgemegan, they couldn't find one dutch speaker?
Battle starts at 57:32
Montgomery is probably responsible for thousands of British and American lives by his incompetence. He promised Caen in a day or two; he allowed half of the German army out of the Falaise pocket - he promised to take Argentan but could not -Patton did; Patton wanted to go ahead and take Falaise to close the gap but was stopped. simply look at the map to see how little ground Montgomery was able to advance; he was responsible for keeping the trapped 15th German army in the Calais pocket - trapped bewteen his forces and the Atlantic sea - he didnt - another army escaped on water; this was the same 15th army that helped defeat the Market Garden operations which he designed, he ignored his own intelligence report confirmed by the Dutch underground that there were two panzer armies near arnhem - this is criminal. The worse part is that he claims something like the Market Garden was 95% successful. He also claims that he defeated the Germans in the Battle of the bulge in a press conference in Jan 1945 not even mentioning the Americans.
+Paul Allen To be fair, he got unlucky at Caen, if he'd of got there a day or two earlier it would of been taken quickly, it didn't help him that the airforce carpet bombed it hugely and turned the city into a mini-Stalingrad. Also, simply looking at a map to see how much ground he advanced doesn't explain that his front was up against the most highly concentrated mechanized German formations on any front. Newly arrived units from the Eastern Front included in it. In comparison, Patton was fighting against an organised defensive retreat through hedgerow's trying to avoid his troops been channelled into hidden traps.
Different fights entirely.
+Paul Allen Montgomery planned the land campaign for the allied forces in the invasion of of North West Europe and led the ground forces to victory in the Battle of France , ahead of of the scheduled completion date (D+90) and with fewer than anticipated casualties.
General Bradley was responsible for the failure to close the the gap in the Falaise Pocket, as he acknowledged in his book 'A Soldier's Story. His subordinate, Patton did not join the battle until 1st August.
+Paul Allen You all will have to ignore this Villa Aston character. On several other posts I have caught him red handed trying to promote a personalized agenda of pro British pride revisionist history. He tries to blame General Bradley, when in fact who was in command of Allied land forces during D-Day??? OH, little Monty, that's right. General Bradley reluctantly followed orders which he KNEW would allow the bulk of the German army to escape. He never forgave himself for this. It is yet another example of his close emotional bond to the soldiers under his command, thus why he was nicknamed "The soldier's General" by his troops.
Fact: Montgomery was in command. Fact: when you are in command, YOU are responsible...period. There is no wiggle room here for your revisionist, make Britain look better damned the facts, damn the cost...revisionist blather here boy. Once again, you have been caught red handed trying to lie about history. You really are no challenge at all.
Oh, and everybody, one of his favorite things to say in posts is and I quote "I have forgotten more about this subject than you will ever know..do you really think you know more about this than I do?".That is a direct quote from another WWII thread where he tried in that case just plain lies and someone responded back in a post.
It's hilarious how he actually see's himself, from a psychological standpoint. Overly bloated with pride and with no justifiable reason to be so. Or is that just a typical British characteristic? I certainly hope not.
+Paul Allen Best thing to do is to just block and mute this Villa Aston character, I have and it was well worth it. People like this baffoon simply feed on controversy. Once blocked, he is just another non existent quantity in YT oblivion. That's the worst possible punishment for someone like that.
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'who was in command of Allied land forces during D-Day??? OH, little Monty, that's right.' Your words.
Fair enough. As Allied Land Forces Commander, Montgomery was responsible for all ground operations, He was responsible for the things that wrong... and the things that went right. Overlord finished ahead of schedule (fact), with fewer than expected casualties (fact) and ended the war in the west as any sort of contest (generally accepted).
Montgomery's tenure as Allied Land Forces Commander ended at the end of August 1944 when Eisenhower took over as Allied Land Forces Commander. He then became responsible for all ground operations including the things that right..and the things that went wrong.
Which one do you want?
"Hell, Brad, I *know* I'm a prima donna. I admit it! What I can't stand about Monty is that *he* won't admit it!"
good old days when discovery channel was good
The fighting skills of the average American Army infantryman of WW2 have long been underrated.
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39:52 the tall pipe is a snorkel for the carburetor. The commentator in the video says it's an exhaust pipe the exhaust pipe was under the vehicle and had a vertical bend in it that prevented water from passing by up into the engine if the motor wasn't running (if there was no holes in the pipe), if the engine was running it didn't even need the bend in the exhaust pipe the flow and pressure of the exhaust gases would keep the water out.
Thank you for this documentary. I find the information about the internal tensions between the western allies particulary interesting.
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Churchill was the most far sighted leader in the war. He saw the dangers of Nazi Germany long before anyone else did and knew something had to be done. He was also right about Stalin.
Simon Smith Churchill was a war mongering, Zionist, genociding fool.
MeliorIlle Really? Do tell, I'll be greatly interested to hear your most revered opinion considering it was Hitler who was bent on war from the outset. Or did that little nugget escape your attention?
MeliorIlle it would seem that your comment was sadly removed as spam. oh dear.
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If you don't want to know the truth that's fine.
MeliorIlle pahahahahahahaha, dumbass.
I love Germany and Germans, as much as possible, having lived there for 4 years, and become intimately familiar with Hesse, Berlin, Grafenburg, Hohenfels, Wildflecken. My first wife was a student at Frederich-Alexander Universitat, at Erlangen.
my father was in the battle of the bulge. he complained about the British taking their supplies , munitions medical supplies and food to be used in the British push up north leaving the Americans short of munitions food and medicines.when the Germans attacked the Americans were left short of everything,their supplies had been stripe by Monty who ha been placed in charge. as as result the Americans lost over 90 000 men due to the shortage of munitions and medical supplies and men. it was not just Americans who die needlessly, but poles who were short changed and who were poured into the battle even though Monty was told the attackers a failure. Monty didn't care about polish , American, Canadian polish or french casualties that were lost. when told about the German counter attack Monty offered relieve the besieged Americans and Canadians in two weeks but Patton was so competent he relieved them in 48 hours even though his forces were twice as far away to relieve the besieged troops there. my father was a Canadian whose troops had been abandoned by Monty. Monty was not only less competent but care nothing about his own men.he was warned previous to his attack on the Rhine bridges, but he risked the entire war to inflate his own ego / Monty was the best helper in the allied army the Germans had.
I should look at a history book if I were you.
that is where i got the 90 000 unnecessary deaths because of a shortage of munitions and supplies, all for the glory of Monty, who had to be rescued by Patton anyhow
Your words in 'single quotes'...
‘my father was in the battle of the bulge. he complained about the British taking their supplies , munitions medical supplies and food to be used in the British push up north leaving the Americans short of munitions food and medicines.’
But why should he form such an opinion? There was a temporary priority of supplies for 21st Army Group in only September 1944. The battle of the bulge did not start until December 1944.
‘when the Germans attacked the Americans were left short of everything,their supplies had been stripe by Monty who ha been placed in charge. as as result the Americans lost over 90 000 men due to the shortage of munitions and medical supplies and men.’
Where is there evidence that American forces were short of supplies during the battle of the bulge and that such a shortage caused 90,000 deaths?
‘it was not just Americans who die needlessly, but poles who were short changed and who were poured into the battle even though Monty was told the attackers a failure.’
There were no Polish forces in the battle of the bulge.
‘Monty didn't care about polish , American, Canadian polish or french casualties that were lost. when told about the German counter attack Monty offered relieve the besieged Americans and Canadians in two weeks but Patton was so competent he relieved them in 48 hours even though his forces were twice as far away to relieve the besieged troops there.'
There were no Canadian forces in the bulge. The only besieged American forces were in the southern half of the bulge. Montgomery was asked to take charge of the northern half of the bulge and therefore this matter was nothing to do with him. In any case, it took 10 days to relieve those besieged Americans, not 48 hours.
‘my father was a Canadian whose troops had been abandoned by Monty.’
According to what you stated above, your father was in the battle of the bulge. There were no Canadians in the bulge. So what was he, American or Canadian?
‘Monty was not only less competent but care nothing about his own men.’he was warned previous to his attack on the Rhine bridges, but he risked the entire war to inflate his own ego / Monty was the best helper in the allied army the Germans had.’
Montgomery’s casualty record was better than any other senior allied commander - the statistics make that absolutely clear. When did Montgomery risk the entire war to inflate his own ego?
As I stated, read a history book.
my father left Canada in order to escape the raft in Canada and got drafted by the Americans
as the result of his serving in the us army i am a dual citizen and so are my children. at that time the us Canadian border was open, no restrictions. many an outlaw came to Canada to escape american law. the draft dodgers of the Vietnam war is the latest example.
The absolute slaughter in the final throws of the third reich was horrific to say the least. The clock began ticking down on Hitler and his armies the second his sappers crossed into Soviet held territory to start Operation Barbarossa.
This a British production ....not American....and a damn good one...and that's coming from a Yank.
British war docs rule.
*cough* History Channel *cough*
Why does all the copyright information say this is an NBC, PBS, American documentary then?
A copyright must be registered in each country where protection is desired. The UK cannot issue a copyright for the USA. Neither can the USA grant a copyright for the UK. Who holds the copyright is a question completely separate from who produced the copyrighted work. This work is obviously a UK production. Clear evidence of this is the narrator's pronunciation of “OOsterbeek”, “Bastogne” and many other place names which are pronounced as the Brits do not as the Americans do. The narrator’s pronunciation is NOT that of the native language e.g. Dutch in the case of “OOsterbeek”, and French in the case of “Bastogne”.
Exactly. See Enterprise or Patton 360 the History Channel produced several years ago. The narrator is cheesy as hell and I'm not a huge fan of the video game like CGI.
Approving Market-Garden was one of the worst decisions Ike ever made. M-G was all about Monty's ego & should NEVER have been attempted. The proper mission of 21st AG was to open Antwerp. They likely could have done so a month earlier than they did. The Western Allies might then have been able to penetrate the Siegfried Line & advance to the Rhine months earlier. Advancing on Berlin likewise made no sense & Ike wisely refused to do it.
Strange that the docu profiled the P-38 when the P-47 & Typhoon were far more important to the Rhine campaign.
Probably someone else had the film footage checked out at the library while he was editing.
***** Don't know enough to debate but have read some stuff & seen some docus. Never seen any suggestion paras were incompetent but rather that they were victims of the incompetence of others.
***** My perception has always been that, whatever the impact of poor staff work, the main failing of Market-Garden is that it was an ill-conceived effort inspired mostly by Monty's ego.
saulpaulus -- Arnhem was really the last straw for the Americans who had to putting up with Monty's arrogance. He did some brilliant work re-building 8th Army and planning Overlord, but his set-piece battles always underachieved their goals. And the British generals he had working under him with were seldom up to standard to deal with the Germans. Max Hastings, the British historian, made the general statement that only one corps commander in the 21st Army Group was better than mediocre, as compared to half a dozen in the 12th Army Group.
saulpaulus
Responsibility for Market Garden ultimately lay with General Eisenhower who by the time of Market Garden was Land Forces Commander and Supreme Allied Commander. In fairness it should be pointed out Eisenhower did not disown the project. At a later date he stated: "I not only approved Market Garden, I insisted upon it."
The airborne landings (Market) were the responsibility of the First Allied Airborne Army and its American commander Lieutenant-General Lewis Brereton. The US provide the greater part of the air transport - nearly all of British troops that landed by parachute at Arnhem were transported to the drop zones by US manned aircraft. The whole air transportation plan was the work of the Lieutenant-General Lewis Brereton and his staff.
Compared to the Western front as a whole, Market Garden was not that big an undertaking. It was an attack using one corps of the British Second Army who were given a temporary priority in supplies and some, not all of the allied airborne forces, who at that time were in reserve.
There was an amount of pressure from the USA for Eisenhower to deploy the allied airborne forces. Twenty First Army Group was the only formation at that time that was in a geographical position to be able to work with a large airborne force for a worthwhile objective.
Montgomery was under quite different pressure - to do all he could to bring the war to an end as soon as possible, to minimise casualties due to British manpower shortages and, at the time of Market Garden to act against the ‘V Weapons’ campaign against London which was killing thousands of civilians, something that Americans could not relate to. A proportion of these weapons were being aimed at Britain from launch sites in the Netherlands.
My great uncle PFC Class Marlon W. Finley was in the 3rd Army and was killed at the Crossing of the Rhine River in Germany.
they call us the 5th panzer army, only because we have 5 panzers left.
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30:48 General Teddy Roosevelt Jr at far left. One great person to research!
Teddy JR died in Normandy of a heart attack in July unfortunately he never crossed the rhine
TR Jr received the CM of H for his leadership of the beach forces in Normandy…
Thank you very much for taking the time to post all of these great War Films. I am old enough to remember watching some of these types of Documentaries in High School in both American and Canadian History (Canadian School).
I can understand where you're coming from. They did fight bravely and skillfully against incredible odds. But . . . they would never have had to defend the Fatherland against intruders if they hadn't intruded on so many other peoples' Fatherlands/Motherlands.
Fuzzy Dunlop lol sh
Some of you folk should read Winston Churchills 2 world war series of books.The man, for all his human faults was usually right.It would be a very different world had he not lived.
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@James Suhr
Truth
The United States and its allies are the most dedicated and faithful servants for peace and diplomacy in the world. The USA is a land of endless opportunity and wealth! I'm proud and honored to be an American. Give thanks to our men and women of the Armed Services oooorah!
Ah, irony!
Totally enjoyed this video well put together!!😎🐓🐓🇬🇧
My grandfather told me that one day in camp, Gen. Patton got up on a tree stump and told all the men there that they were crossing the Rhine, even if he had to bring the ID tags back in a 6x6.
Hell of a time that made some seriously tough men.
Patton: 'Montgomery is a tired old fart. You have to take risks to win battles, and he won't take any.'
Monty had so many humiliations that in the end he did take a risk - well he risked his soldiers lives - and went for Market Garden. This operation has gone down in history as the last German victory of the war. Couldn't have done it without Montgomery. Directly that cost many lives. Indirectly it cost more by diverting resources and raising German morale and thereby prolonging the war.
zog zog
'Monty had so many humiliations' Your words.
What humiliations?
Well his biggest was Market Garden.
Caen too.
Caen was supposed to be taken by Monty on the very night of D-Day instead it took weeks.
Also in Caen what is called the ride of death saw Monty get 200 Churchill tanks and it's crew destroyed in a fatal mistake.
Monty was very cautious at Caen which I believe caused the mishaps.
Even in Sicily Monty was moving slow.
But to be fair the UK did not have the manpower to throw around like the US did so many attribute his hesitancy to lack of manpower.
In the end I believe Monty was a capable commander with flaws.....
Phillip IV
By the time of Market Garden Eisenhower was both Supreme Commander and Land Forces Commander. He bore the ultimate responsibility for the operation. He dithered for a fatal week week before giving the go-ahead. Given the opportunities that Market Garden presented, Eisenhower, Montgomery and Bradley all said yes to the operation.
Caen was a D-Day target, not a requirement. Other D-Day targets that were not reached were: Carentan, Saint-Lo, the Omaha Utah link up and the Omaha Gold link up. As Land Forces Commander, Montgomery delivered victory in France ahead of the scheduled completion date (D+90) and with 22% fewer than expected casualties. When was the 'ride of death' of '200 Churchill tanks and it's crew destroyed' recorded? I have never heard of it. Nor has my father - who was on Churchill tanks in Caen.
As for Sicily, as in Normandy, the bulk of German Forces were tied down by British forces. The only person who played up was the single army commander Patton who was clearly seeking opportunities for personal glory.
"Caen was supposed to be taken by Monty on the very night of D-Day instead it took weeks." - No plan survives contact with the enemy. I'm not a big fan of Monty but simply saying "The plan was to take it by X, but instead it took until Y" is very disingenuous unless you give SPECIFIC INSTANCES as to why the delay was 1) Unnecessary and 2) Monty's singular fault.
‘The March 24 operation sealed the fate of Germany. Already, of course, we had secured two bridgeheads farther to the south. But in each of these cases surprise and good fortune had favoured us. The northern operation was made in the teeth of the greatest resistance the enemy could provide anywhere along the long river. Moreover, it was launched directly on the edge of the Ruhr and the successful landing on the eastern bank placed strong forces in position to deny the enemy use of significant portions of that great industrial area.’
- US General Dwight D Eisenhower
Per usual left out Book and Page,hold on I'll give you some facts.
*From My Three Years With Eisenhower,by Capt.Harry C.Butcher,p.675 - Sept 24,1944,Monty had been pressing for more supplies to 21st Army Group.IKE informed Monty that he had given preference to the left flank(21st Army) through out the campaign* Including the attachments of Air Borne and everything to assure the maintenance.On the other hand all other forces had been fighting with a halter around their necks with respect to supplies. *IKE illustrated that for 4 days straight Patton had been receiving serious counter attacks,yet in 7 days without attempting to any real advance 3rd Army captured 9,000 prisoners and knocked out 270 tanks*
The Gerries actually had a real Field Marshall named Model.Who BTW couldn't believe some moron tried to shoehorn a whole column of armor up one single road for 64 miles.But in London this is BRILLIANT,SMDH.and of course Model and Student were present during hostilities while the lewd lemur Monty was a no show
*From Eisenhower's Armies,by Dr Niall Barr,page 415* After the failure of Market-Garden,Eisenhower held a conference on 5 October 1944 that not only provided a post mortem on the operation but in which he reiterated his strategy for the campaign.Alan Brooke was present as an observer,noted that IKE's strategy continued to focus on the clearance of the Scheldt Estuary,followed by an advance on the Rhine,the capture of the Ruhr and a subsequent advance on Berlin.After a full and frank discussion in which Admiral Ramsey criticised Montgomery freely,Brooke was moved to write,"I feel that Monty's strategy for once is at fault,instead of carrying out the advance on Arnhem he ought to have made certain of Antwerp in the 1st place.... *IKE nobly took all the blame on himself as he had approved Monty's suggestion to operate on Arnhem"*
Give Patton the weapons & gas he needed, and the US Army could have been in Berlin by the end of '44. No Berlin Wall then and a big black eye for Stalin.
I’m proud that Canada punched above its weight! We were only a country of ten million or so at the time. I see why we earned a strong place in the post war order, I’m sorry that our present leadership has squandered that place and good will!
No. I personally despise the Soviet Union for personal reasons being Polish. However, there is no way that Allies would have had the success without the Soviet Union. Credit must be given where it is due. Without Stalin , USSR would have fallen apart, without USSR , the USA/UK would have to face Germany and Japan. Soviet Union's mass assault doctrine which threw Soviet soldiers at the Germans in a sense, over-ran the limited supplies and manpower in the Eastern Front.
The worst time to be a soldier is the end when the outcome is not in doubt but the enemy is still very capable of causing casualties you realize it’s almost over and this is not a time to be stupid and never get home the enemy has no chance and nothing to lose if you’re not going to let yourself be captured you’re going to fight to the bitter end
I end up watching these great videos more than once 👍🤣
Me, too. I'm always learning stuff I missed before.
My grandfather fought from the allied side in Burma against japanese as an Indian and ... He spoke very little on it during his life ... He died in 2016 at the age of 98 ..
This is why politicians should be fighting on the front line worrying about the lives of the soldiers rather than the gains that could be made after the fighting
Montgomery was such a blessing for the Germans.
You mean like when he won in North Africa, Sicily, Normandy, the northern part of the Bulge and the Rhine?
He brought somethging to the war that Eisenhower and Bradley did not have - personal combat experience.
Even If the Allies never left France after D-Day the Germans were being over run by the overwhelming Russian advance and would have lost . We advanced to Germany so the Russians would not take the entire country of Germany. Stalin was not know for handing back lands he liberated.
John Smith
Who the fuck cares? The third reich was the most powerful army at this time. Luckily the americans joined and the Winter in Russia began. If not, there had won the germans.
France and Britian sucked against Germany like in the WWI.
Only because Rothschild offered the british government the US Army to get palestine you guys won the first world war. Balfour Declaration.. ever heard of it?
And also.. germany offered britian and france peace letters in all two WW's. But you guys refused.
You can literally the mess which does exist today because you thought that globalistic dickheads are better then nationalsocialists who took the term "social" really leteral. Did you ve ever researched the political goals of nationalsocialism?
TheVilla Aston
ignorantly wrote
He brought somethging to the war that Eisenhower and Bradley did not have - personal combat experience.
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Listen Village Idiot i'll present it real easy like that even you can understand....maybe.Great Britain and France attacked Germany in May'40 .In June Germany threw GB & France off of the continent.Who do you think you're bullshitting? The rest of the nations of Europe know that this happened.They also know that GB never crossed the Channel for exactly 4 years.But only after the GI's went in. We all clear now?
Great stuff. Even the murky music seems appropriate.
6:52 ouch
1:09:53 is actually footage from Oktober 1944 Wochenschau and these Panthers belong to 23 Panzer division in the battle of current Oradea in Romania. Less than 10% of the images here are from the western war or Normandy.
You are aware that there isn’t combat footage from every specific battle and docs like this have to make due right?
@@TJ-el5tm: You make an excellent point. 👌 But I think he was only showing off his Know-How and accuracy. Hehehehe
Most of these great documentaries I can't watch in the U.S. it's a shame good world war 2 documentaries like these are hard to come by these days.
One of my late Dad's closest cousins was an American Army Paratrooper who was killed in Operation Market Garden. His division landed right into the middle of a Waffen SS division.
A further point of fact, Cousin Corporal Carman S. Ladner, my Great Aunt Ida Mae (Wood) Ladner's youngest son served in the American 501st Parachute Regiment. He was born in Canada on Prince Edward Island He died for my freedom.
Where did US parastroopers land in the middle of a Waffen SS division?
Market Garden was an idiotic idea...
MONTY GARDEN
Narrated by the late, great Tim Piggot-Smith…🎙🇬🇧📃
I'm an Austrian and I agree with you. Although one *should* use the "native" name of landmarks and cities, it's perfectly acceptable to use translations.
Well, at this time, the german army was no longer the superb fighing machine it was in previous years. German forces were committed to two other front, italy and the sovjet union. And those fronts, expecially the eastern front, contained the bulk of german forces.
The narration on this video was superb!
He was ok, the way he mangled Dutch names was an insult to our country though :P
These documentaries are on the money 💰 love watching history and heroes
Amazing
I know a lot of people like to shit on France for WW2, but give some credit to the Frenchman's that still continued to fight. Much love from Texas you crazy Frenchies.
Well said
For most of their history the French have been great fighters - from medieval knights to Napoleon....
Thank I'm part French from my father.
They fought to protect Dunkirk so the Brits could pull out 300,000 forces instead of the 30,000 they initially hoped to save. Lousy leadership and planning doomed France, not the quality of their troops. And in WWI they endured some of the most hardship.
The British owe them for holding the germans back while they hauled ass.
Those who flew the P-38 Lightening said it was like driving a Cadillac. Smooth, very fast, powerful. A flight of sixteen P-38s intercepted Admiral Yamamoto's plane (one of two Betty bombers) and six escorting Zeroes, as I recall. He was shot down over the jungle of Bougainville on 4/18/43. He was visiting various islands as a morale boost for Japanese troops. Didn't work out quite as he'd planned thanks to our code breakers who knew his itinerary and also knew that he was compulsively punctual. The USA had a score to settle with him. Those P-38 pilots saw to that in what was a nearly perfect mission.
+Melanie Hamilton Beautifully stated...simply an excellent comment. Thank you.
+18tangles P-38s served their purposes in Europe. They could fly higher and faster than any other fighter and were therefore good for reconnaissance/photography. Their range was greater than any other fighter, so until the introduction of the 'drop-tank' P-51D in 1944, they were a preferred escort for bomber squadrons. They could also carry a 1K pound bomb. -- My mother worked on P-38 assembly in Burbank. She was a spot welder. At the same time, my father was in the 3rd Division, 1st Army, in France and Germany.
I'm not claiming that the P-38 was the very best at any one thing, (although it can be argued that it was for reconnaissance) what I am saying is that it was very good at many different things. Sometimes versatility is just as valuable an asset as specialization.
The Mosquito was very comparable to the PBY Catalina in many ways, as well.
+18tangles Is that why the Germans called them the "Fork Tailed Devil"
The lost gliders carried all the armored jeeps. The jeeps were why they were lost.
the U.S. sent so many jeeps to Russia.
really well put together doc
Bob DiMarzio Kill Roy was here
I don't know why so many commentators think Hitler was foolish to "use his forces on one last gamble". He had always been a gambler and this time he really had very little to lose: yes, the end would come sooner if they failed, but Hitler was only interested in victory, not defeat a few months later.
You make a reasonable point. Is it also the case that Hitler fought everywhere because he had nowhere else to go. How could he admit defeat to his people?
Sure, he should have done it. Except for all of the Germans who lost their lives directly due to his actions, and all of the additional destruction that occurred, but yeah, he was right. Sure.
@@paigetomkinson1137 The point I'm making is about strategy during the war and whether, from the perspective of Germany trying to win the war, the decision to gamble on this offensive made sense.
@@houndofzoltan Okay, I understand that. I still think it was a waste of life and materiel, but as you say, he really did not care.
@@paigetomkinson1137 No, he didn't. But he thought the war could still be won. The thing that I'm really talking about though is military history commentators saying the troops would have been much better used in a defensive role which would have prolonged the war for longer and probably cost more lives. My point is, Hitler didn't care about losing less quickly, only about winning.
Nijmegen is pronounced "nye-MAY-GUN" not "Nidge-megan." At least that is how the Dutch pronounced it in all the time I worked in Eindhoven. But who knows... maybe the Dutch don't know how to pronounce the names of their own cities. Anyway, I still love the post, so don't have a coronary responding in attack. It's just a small pronunciation teaching moment and doesn't detract from the great post. The narrator accidentally went "A Pronunciation Too Far."
annoying isn't it
"Nye-MAY-(sound like static on an old transistor radio)-un."
And he keeps spraining his tongue gargling out that nasty French.
6:50 holy shit
War, neh.
America declared war on Japan. Germany and Italy declared war on America, not the other way around.
Well the US had to declare war back ya know.
Japan declared war on the us just like they did Russia back in the early 1900s. They sent it at a weird time so the attack on Pearl Harbor happened before the declaration got to the us
several american generals complained about Monty's attitude, most of all Patton who was less diplomatic and why he was fired in the end/ his performance cause him to be denied the occupation of the Ruhr.
the only supply depot for northern German operations was Antwerp but that was reserved for Monty.
Hey , has MONKEY MONTY TAKEN CAEN YET ??
Very Good
My great grandfather was crossing the Rhine taking over a German tower and was hit eight times in the back and walked out standing.The holes in his back you could fit your fist in them.
This is a huge line of shit
Doubtful.
Evidently the medic was into accupuncture
Great grandfather? In WW2?
the battle for the rind was more a peeling
Just more sour grapes??
nah, just feeling a little seedy. Not sure where it stems from.
*****
Or just piped off sorry for raisin that
You ALL deserve the Pullet Surprise for your comments.
This was a very fruitful thread.
This is the truth about what happened when both the Americans and British were about to capture the entire 7th army. Patton went straight for the attack and took his half, however Montgomery refused and said that they "needed more fuel and ammo" to do this when they had plenty (this was a typical WW1 strategy where you have tons of fuel and ammo and make a massive attack on the enemy). Patton was furious about this and had to encircle what remained of the German 7th army in that encirclement. Montgomery had made many mistakes in his strategies especially Operation Market Garden: the British failed to acquire any bridges whatsoever while the Americans captured 5 and remained with 2 once the main force arrived.
Blackburn
Total rubbish. Bradley was responsible for the escape of German 7th Army units - as he admitted in his book - A Soldier's Story.
i forgot that part as well however Patton ignored the order and continued to try and trap the entire 7th army
that is true but i have read information on an attack that he has faced similar to this and he has managed to win this battle with only few casualties
Well we can't let that be known can we? Remember the Americans apparently didn't fight in ww2 they only financed and supported people lol Japan fought a ghost and the US was never in italy or france ect...
Monty lost a lot. What he won he won with overwhelming superiority in men, materials, and air support. And then barely.. and poorly.
*Road to Victory,Winston Churchill 1941-45,by Martin Gilbert* A British War cabinet memo suggested that the appointment of Monty was from the point of view of it's reception by public opinion.Apparently that clinched the War Cabinet's vote for Montgomery;based strictly on military accomplishments,the case for monty was very weak
*Eisenhower & Montgomery at the Falaise Gap,by William Weidner,page 317* Montgomery got along with neither the Americans nor the Canadians.After Dunkirk the French absolutely refused to serve under a British commander.
*The Eisenhower Papers,volume IV,by Edward Chandler* By early September Montgomery and other Allied leaders thought the Wehrmacht was finished .It was this understanding that led Monty to insist on the Market-Garden Operation over the more mundane task of opening the port of Antwerp. *He ignored Eisenhower's letter of Sept 4 assigning Antwerp as the primary mission for the Northern Group of Armies*
Listen Village Idiot i'll present it real easy like that even you can understand....maybe.Great Britain and France attacked Germany in May'40 .In June Germany threw GB & France off of the continent.Who do you think your bullshitting?The rest of the nations of Europe know that this happened.They also know that GB never crossed the Channel for exactly 4 years.But only after the GI's went in
I was and still am a huge fan of WWII history and I have zero tolerance for inaccuracies and deceptions when it comes to books, videos, films & documentaries on WWII. It's always irritated me when all of these venues have either excluded or covered up all the failed missions, battles and/or campaigns of Bernard Law Montgomery aka "Monty". The man was loathed by so many high ranking officials in all of the allies militaries, not to mention many of his own military officials. Monty was so arrogant & self righteous that it cost many, many lives both his own countrymen and the countless lost lives of Britain's allies. I always found it interesting that when doing research throughout the decades concerning the war and Monty's part in it, what one learns from the US and England in many cases is quite different when you compare those to the stories told by the other allies to include Germany. England needed a hero badly during and right after WWII and because of a personal favor from "Ike" to Churchill, Monty became Britain's hero rather than being disgraced and ruined by being fired for his arrogance & incompetence like "Ike" wanted. I always said from my college days (late 70'/early 80') that if I ever got the chance to visit Europe and see England, I would go straight to Binstead to piss on Monty's grave and I finally got to make my mark in 2002. England lost that war and if not for the combined efforts of the allies, Brits would be speaking "Deutsch" to this very day and they need to remember that!
+18tangles
Another one that needs sorting out.
+Texas Hi-Railer
‘It's always irritated me when all of these venues have either excluded or covered up all the failed missions, battles and/or campaigns of Bernard Law Montgomery aka "Monty". ‘ Your words.What failed missions, battles / campaigns?
‘Monty was so arrogant & self righteous that it cost many, many lives both his own countrymen and the countless lost lives of Britain's allies.’ Your words. And yet Montgomery had the lowest casualty rates of any senior allied
commander. As I understand the most comparable US senior commander for keeping casualties under control was MacArthur in the Far East. 18tangles may well be able to correct me on this.
‘England needed a hero badly during and right after WWII’ Your words.Wrong, its England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales (The United Kingdom). Montgomery happened to be the man in charge when the big victories started happening and as a consequence he received an amount attention. The whole thrust of British wartime propaganda and reporting of the war was to emphasise the collective effort and the role of the ordinary men and women in winning the war rather than politicians, generals etc. This emphasisis easy to discern in the many feature films produced during this this period. ‘The Foreman Went to France’, ‘Went the Day Well’ and ‘Millions Like Us’ are just three of many such films. As well as this, press reporting and government publications also looked to emphasise the collective effort. For example, the official history of the Battle of Britain published in 1941 did not even mention the head of Fighter Command: Air Chief Marshal Hugh Dowding. End of.
‘and because of a personal favor from "Ike" to Churchill, Monty becameBritain's hero rather than being disgraced and ruined by being fired for his
arrogance & incompetence like "Ike" wanted.’ Your words.
Eisenhower never had the authority to sack Montgomery. Montgomery reported to his superiors in Britain and any attempt to have Montgomery dismissed would have had to have been in the form of a request to those authorities. In any case, what grounds were there for such a request? Montgomery had planned and led the land battle in France in 1944 which ended ahead of schedule and with fewer than expected casualties. By the time of Market Garden Eisenhower had become land forces commander and thus was directly responsible for the decision to launch that operation. After that time, Eisenhower quickly turned to Montgomery for help during the Battle of the Bulge panic and Montgomery launched the text book crossing of the Rhine by British, Canadian and US forces in the last stages of the war.
‘England lost that war and if not for the combined efforts of the allies, Brits would be speaking "Deutsch" to this very day and they need to remember that!’ Your words.So when and how was Germany going to invade and enforce the German language on Britain?
‘I always said from my college days (late 70'/early 80') that if I ever got the chance to visit Europe and see England, I would go straight to Binstead to piss on Monty's grave and I finally got to make my mark in 2002.’ Your words. I will leave you to your ignorance on this one.
Let me know if I have missed anything.
+18tangles Yes Tangles same old same same blah blah blah and you wonder where I have been. Tell us about the green boys from cool Wisconsin sent to the jungles of New Guinea to cover for an army that ran off to find romance in the North African desert when the Japanese were beating the war drums. yes please disparage our boys and show off your ignorance. You have learned nothing. Anyway I'm fine I hope you are well. Don't you get tiered of this same old nonsense?
+TheVilla Aston Yes Villa very well done.
+18tangles No body is talking about how or why Japan got aggressive only that when she did your politicians had their nose stuffed so far up Britain's arse that they left Australia vulnerable in the face of that aggression. Hindsight is 20/20 but you are still blind. 18 year old farm boys leave Wisconsin and go to the Jungles of New Guinea to help shore up Australias defenses and you continue to disparage them. Of course the Americans used Australia as a forward base of operations but those boys went for a reason far more honorable than what your answer would be and you are to old to sound like a 12 year old you tube wind bag.
Thanks for uploading these, helps me in Schools History:)
6:49 wow you see the halftrack burst into flame and burnin germin's fall out!!
yep! Montgomery was the worst!
My father was a WW2 veteran he used to talk about how the V2 rocket terrorized London.