If we’re counting objects that weren’t necessarily intended as super weapons, then we could probably include V’Ger’s ship and the whale probe, both of which would have wiped out life on Earth.
There seems to be a lot of Star Trek ‘super weapons’ missing from this list starting with the Genesis Device. It destroyed an entire Nebula and reformed it into a planet. Then the Echo Papa drone system from TNG (that almost destroyed the Enterprise D). The Tox Uthat (again from TNG) that could destroy a star. The Son’a subspace weapons from Insurrection that caused the Enterprise E to lose a warp core. Dr Soran’s trilithium weapon that blew up 2 stars. And Q weapons from Voyager, that could kill or injure other Q, and had the side effect of causing supernova’s!!
Yup, it also made a Star. All in hours, so it was massively FTL so much so that the Enterprise shouldn't have been able to escape even if it were 2000 times faster. Kirk was very lucky that he was blasted away prior to the device devouring the whole nebula
Echo papa 607, from the episode “ Arsenal of freedom” fit the definition of a super weapon, it tests an opponent and automatically improved its capabilities until it destroyed what ever it was fighting, only really beaten by Picard when he agrees to purchase the weapon, I also believe that jjverse should still have to deal with the doomsdays machine, as the doomsday would had started it’s voyages before the point of the time change with the destruction of the Kelvin , the doomsday machine should still be out there somewhere coming, as is veger and the whale probe.
Speaking of the Doomsday Machine, in this one case, I prefer the old version from '66. The model was thinner and more spindly and worn looking and when combined with the filming methods of the time appeared to have thin spots and tiny holes in its hull. Which suggested that it was so ancient that even its otherwise impervious exterior was beginning to wear away.
Since there are already mentions of the Genesis Device, let's throw in the various star killing weapons. In By Inferno's Light, the Dominion had a device that could cause a star to go nova, as did Soran's trilithium weapon. And there's the Varuvian bomb, which can blow a large chunk out of a planet while being small enough to fit on a cart.
And here I thought you were going to talk about Federation weapons. After all it's said in Star Trek that the Enterprise could decimate a planet all on its own in A Taste of Armageddon and elsewhere.
These are pretty impressive given that it only takes a couple photons torpedoes the make a planet unhabitable so most Starfleet ships are basically mini Death Stars!
@@williammitchell4417 if you really wanted to destroy a planet you could just send more photon torpedoes which one is more powerful than most of our nuclear bombs anyways or you could pull a TNG and do some tractor beam magic to almost make a planet's core explode but wouldn't it just be easier if you could just make it where nobody could just live on the planet anyways it's like asking humans to live inside saturn we can't do it! It's even said that a constitution class could destroy a continent on their constant bombardment from the wiki anyways which is quite believable knowing how powerful the standard for weapons is in Star Trek!! Star Trek ships are also constructed out of super materials and so was commander Data but whatever but because of this Star Trek ships are also super sturdy and we do see in TOS our Constitution class can be struck with many nuclear warheads and fly out of it mostly unscathed and that's just to give you an idea for the power of a photon torpedo! This is also why I find those scenarios with people put star destroyers up against Star Trek ships in made up scenarios unbelievable because I cannot see any way how a Star destroyer could even put a dent in the Enterprise that in many other reason!
@@williammitchell4417 blowing up entire planets is wasteful overkill, not something the Federation would engage in. Besides: in a TNG episode the Enterprise‘s phasers are use to break up the tectonic plates of a planet that was in the process of quaking itself into much smaller pieces, thus relieving the seismic stresses and ending the quakes. A less benevolent power would surely find ways to use phasers that can penetrate a planet‘s crust to much more devastating effect. In a TOS episode Kirk has Spock use the ship‘s phasers to stun an entire city full of people, leaving the infrastructure intact. The stun setting works by overloading the target‘s nervous which doesn‘t require a lot of power. A slight modification of that stun setting could be used to wipe out a planet‘s population while preserving the infrastructure. The power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to versatility of a Federation starship‘s phasers…
I'd like to make an argument for TNG s3 e3, where the entity Kevin defended his home with a Husnock battle cruiser. Being materialized by Kevin himself he could make the ship as powerful as he so desired. I dunno if that would count as a doomsday weapon, but it was definitely intimidating to see.
The Crystaline Entity was a force of nature, NOT a weapon. Lore simply learned how to comminicate with it and helped find food for it. You are trying too hard to come up with a unique answer.
I remember recording Doomsday Machine on VHS when I was a kid and watching it over and over again, definitely one of the best episodes ever made! One definite superweapon many overlook in these lists was that energy dampening field used by the Breen towards the end of the Dominion war, how many ships were lost in that battle where it was first activated?
No mention of "Project Genesis", the whole movie was Kirk fighting Klingon to retrieve this weapon. Also, I would include the "Guardian of Forever" - just for the temptation comment it made to Kirk at the end of the episode. BTW- love Kirk's reply. :)
I would not include The guardian of forever as it is sentient and can block access to anyone wishing to permanently damage the time line. We see this in discovery as it tested Georgiou before it sent her back to the 23rd century. This is also the reason why the Terrans could not use the guardian of their universe to undo the collapse of the empire thanks to Emporer Spock.
You forgot the Isolythic weapon in a TOS episode that was banned as a planet killer. In Voyager, the original bomb that was to wipe out the Omega particles is supposed to be powerful enough to destroy a planet. There's also the Multi-Kinetic Neutronic Mine that 7of9 wanted to build to be used against the Undine. In TNG there's the Tox Uthot, Trilithium Torpedo and Genesis Torpedo. DS9 had a protomatter bomb that the Bashir Changeling made to blow up the Bajoran sun. Finally the actual Omega particle too.
@@jamiebraswell5520 a weapon of mass destruction which nomad became when it wiped out the population of a whole planet before kirk 7 the enterprise got to it
What about the whale probe ship thing? Not really a super weapon but fits in the same group as 10 C's mining tech. And also that mother ship for the race of dinosaurs that Voyager ran into could count though we're never told how powerful it actually is. And finally V'ger could be included too given how powerful it was despite not being a "weapon".
Correct, it is NOT a superweapon. Something being powerful and even a huge threat does NOT make it a superweapon. A superweapon is a device created for the intent purpose of killing many people. The Whale Probe was simply sent to see where the whales went, with Spock even explaining to you that it is unaware that its signals are destructive. V'Ger was not a superweapon either, as some here want to think, as it was simply the Living Machine's being nice and upgrading the Voyager probe so that it really could live up to its programming to learn all that is learnable. It was just collecting data as it searched for its creator and eventually achieved consciousness. It was not created for the express purpose of killing people.
the borg are a super weapon. all them worlds tech into 1 ship and many others. the jem,hadar the dominion have garden of fresh tech. borg cube explore the gamma quadrant and its wonders.
I think you missed one, though it was only mentioned and not seen: the gravimetric torpedo. It was mentioned in the episode Omega of VOY and it was capable of destroying planets. Great list, though!
The "Genesis Device" from Star Trek II used as a weapon would wipe all existing life off a planet. Then there's the "trilithium torpedo" from Star Trek: Generations that could cause the destruction of a star and entire solar system. Some might say the Borg themselves are a superweapon, as they assimilate entire worlds with relative ease. Let's also not forget the "crystalline entity", which consumed all life on a planet.
You missed the Omega molecule and tri-lithium torpedo. Omega molecule can destroy faster than light travel for three light years per molecule. Which is why starfleet has the Omega Directive. Tri-lithium makes a star go boom, destroying entire star systems with one torpedo. Surprised there isn't a Directive for that one.
The First Federation flagship, Fesarius. We didn't get to see it attack, but it's scale was far larger than a Borg cube. Tin Man/Gomtuu. We saw it launch one attack, with which it destroyed a warbird and knocked out the Enterprise at much greater range. Each Q. They can alter timelines and reality at will. Cause a supernova? Snaps fingers: The big bang worked out differently and your galaxy never existed. That's not even counting the weapons they designed to use against each other. Genesis, V'ger, the alien ship in ST-IV, Omega, the aliens in the Nth Power who could impart super intelligence and technology to Barclay, the Andromedans in ToS, Sargon in ToS. Apollo in ToS, the alien who destroyed all the Husnock with a thought. The list goes on.
Stupid list made by someone who doesn't know what a superweapon is. Just because something is enormous, powerful, or inadvertantly causing harm does NOT make it a superweapon. You do realize that weaoons are created for the express purpose of killing, don't you? If it is a superweapon, then it was created to kill a great many people on a massive scale. How does V'ger, the Whale Probe, Gomtuu, the Q, etc even qualify for that?? They are not even weapons. Their powers have nothing to do with being weapons. Stop being silly and show us that you understand Star Trek instead.
the omega mollecule itself, the breen energy dampening weapon that ultimately took out the first defiant, the spinal lance seen on the future enterprise in all good things...
Nice list. I too loved the Doomsday Machine episode it's my favorite TOS episode. Although the shape of the Doomsday Machine was always hilarious. Personally I like the updated CG version of the show especially for this episode.
Maybe a video based on some of the classes seen in star trek armada and armada 2. Thinking the premonition and the incursion class. Maybe even going as far as the fleet ops mod.
I love that idea with the doomsday machine. A weapon so old that even its nearly indestructible armor couldn't stop the slow march of time from stripping its hull down to a weird misshapened tube. But even in that state the thing was still dangerous enough that it might even be a match for 25 century starships.
Let me add that Nomad was the narrative basis for V'Ger in TMP. Both had potential as planet killers, or at least genocidal devices on a planetary scale.
Many comments mention you left out The Genesis Device, although it wasn't intended as a weapon (Although the technology is used to develop a weapon in "The Genesis Wave" series). There is also no mention of the Metreon Cascade, which WAS intentionally a weapon of mass destruction. The Cardassian Dreadnought missile also comes to mind. Of course, orbital bombardment with a couple dozen Quantum Torpedoes would be quite destructive, so maybe starships themselves are "superweapons"?
Kinda like having a scalpel against your throat versus a katana, both can take you apart but the gutting ahem cutting beam is slower and requires more cuts and thus more horrifying
Echo papa 607 Was probably one of the most dangerous weapons in Star Trek. It wiped out it's creators and nearly destroyed the Enterprise D. It continuously adapts to it's target, like the Borg, but even more efficient. Picard only "stopped" it by agreeing to buy the weapon for the automated merchant. Revealing that this thing did all this in DEMO MODE. Imagine if it was deployed offensively.
I liked how that novel imagined the Doomsday Machine as a weapon against the Borg, though it was frustrating how wildly different novel interpretations of the Borg were and how almost everything mysterious from the original series and movies was reimagined to involve them. And usually well enough written that I wanted the conflicting stories to all be right. The "sharp edged bubbles" from The Probe being a particular favorite.
Tbh, almost every Starfleet ship could be a super weapon. It was said even a 23rd century Constitution class could lay waste an entire continent if it really wanted to
Tox Uthat. A device the size of a grapefruit that can cause a sun to go super nova, wiping out the system and devastating lightyears of space in every direction. How can you miss this?!?
I once did some rough calculations and from a mass or density perspective, one inch of neutronium is equivalent to an entire kilometer of steel. Or iron, I forget which one.
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I actually agree that the Doomsday machine was one of the best original series episodes, and it went into the ideas of why people shouldn’t make super weapons
Star Trek lore is filled with super weapons. Photon Torpedoes are more than capable of destroying planets, depending on the yield, and payload. Harry Kim even vocalizes this when they're modifying a torpedo in the Omega Directive episode of Voyager, and as much as I hate Discovery, there's a fantastic scene where the Empress destroys a rebel planet with nothing more than Photon Torpedoes, decimating the surface. There have been several missiles and bombs that can cause a star to go supernova (Generations TNG film, DS9 season 5x15 By Inferno's Light). Then there's the genesis device, the manheim effect experiments (TNG: We'll always have Paris), subspace weapons (Insurrection), and AI enhanced torpedoes (Voyager had at least 2 episodes dealing with these one was Cardassian designed and the other of an alien origin).
Honestly as the series have continued, the continual defanging of phasers in general is something that has always disappointed me. In the original series and to a lesser extent Next Generation, phasers both handheld and ship based were weapons to tremendous power. Forcing the protagonists to find and chose a different solution to their problems as opposed to just shooting their way out. But since people seem to crave the mindless lightshow and action of constant firefights, they're now no more powerful than a Star Wars blaster.
@@JarodCain Yeah it's annoying.Hand phasers will atomize rock or steel, almost anything you can use for cover in the original series. Then they got far less powerful in TNG DS9 and Voy, but with more versatile settings, like wide beam and multi beams, yet they're barely used because, well just because.
Not sure if these would count but .... Phaser Lance from the Enterprise D refit in the alternate timeline. The weapon from the kelvin timelines Dreadnought class.
That last item, reminds me of the still unanswered puzzle and/or question..what the hell happened to it after it was finally defeated.? Personally I would have done one of 2 or 3 things, if were there..(in that universe/time-line): mine it for it's rare matter elements, attempt to safely study it's alien systems, or..deeming it too dangerous..drop it into the nearest non-sunstar.. to prevent it accidentally getting reactivated..stopping the whole mess starting again.
There's the Jem'Hadar battleship, absolutely massive in size and heavily armed, even galaxy class were no match against it, let alone the tiny Defiant class. Then there's the illusionary Husnock ship generated by Kevin Uxbridge, it could absorb all forms of directed energy and had weapons with increasing higher output. Plus, being a projection created by an immortal being, it's essentially invincible. 5:27 The ending here is ambiguous, but it's implied that history was about to repeat itself.
The neutronium hull of the Doomsday Machine reminds me of the concept of compressed matter armor. It would read as something similar to neutronium, or the matter at the heart of neutron stars. Starfleet sensors would have trouble differentiating between both I would think, since it would be a technology unfamiliar to them. Speaking of the Planet Killer, I got a crazy idea. Link the Krenin Timeship to the Doomsday Machine. I got two ways it could be done. One is to have the Krenim encounter one of the machines or find scans someone else took of it, and attempt to replicate its primary weapon. Along their reverse engineering they stumble upon creating the temporal core and weapon. Its a stretch I know, but it could be they simply got inspired by tales of the thing. The second idea is that the doomsday machine is the ghost of the Timeship, as it was being destroyed it attempted to escape and it got sent to beginning of time! Because of the damage, its hull has been twisted and altered by the ravages of both the destruction caused by Voyager and the energies it encountered at the start of the universe. The "neutronium" hull could be a modification it made along the way. As for its pilot it would be the remnants of the ship's AI, operating on pseudo instincts.
Species 8472 is a fictional extraterrestrial species in the science fiction television series Star Trek: Voyager. Species 8472 is a designation given to them by the Borg. The multiplayer game Star Trek Online gives their proper name as Undine.
Soran's solar probes. They were a whole step up from a planet killer, they killed entire solar systems! But the Krenim Timeship is by far the most powerful in Trek and definitely in the upper echelon of fictional superweapons.
In my opinion, there's still a reference to the original doomsday machine design in the finished episode. Look at the damage sustained by the Constellation. In both the original and the updated effects, the damage is more consistent with being caused by pinpoint weapons, like phasers and maybe torpedoes, not by the huge beam the doomsday machine actually uses.
I like to think of the Enterprise series as having been an alternate history holonovel with little to no basis in actual history, that Riker was just watching for fun.
Scimitar was classified as a "Reman Warbird", not a Bird of Prey. Although I do understand the confusion regarding the naming conventions of Trek vessels, particularly when concerning all the damn bird ships used by different species, lol.
The Genesis device being capable of terraforming planets, or wiping out existing species from a world to be transformed into something else, or the TriLithium weapon of Dr Soran, able to halt nuclear processes in stars, and turn solar systems into wandering rogue planets at the least; the Son'aa weapon able to create tears in spacetime. Not yet made into a weapon per se, but the Omega molecule container filled with the omega molecules is able to destroy warp space for light years around an area, preventing any use of warp drives.
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Given that an ounce of a Neutron star, which is the likely source of the material that these machines were constructed from, weighs as much as Mt. Everest, it's amazing that this vessel's gravitational field didn't grab the Enterprise when it made its phaser run, and turn it into an atom in thickness splattered stain.
I'm amazed the Genesis Project didn't get a mention. While not being designed AS a super weapon, it is a super weapon on it's own accord. It literally destroys the surface of a planet and reterraforms it whatever the hell a person wants.
You forgot V'Ger from the Motion Picture, I know I know, Motion Picture wasnt the best and especially not the mostly loved Movie, its still the first try making a Star Trek movie after Phase two was cancelled but V'Ger is in my opinion a wonderful Idea, an unknown Species, even speculated as early Borg did modify the Voyager Missions Probe to send it back and make first Contact where the Probe got conciousness itself and decided to destroy the Planet if it cant find its Owner to bring them the Message this unknown Mechanical Species had. This Species suggested that Humans werent the most advanced Species but Whales and Dolphins, but because there werent any Whales anymore the Probe couldnt communicate and started annihilate all Life on Planet Earth which would have ended in destroying said Planet. (If you think about the Message behind the Movie its pretty good tho) The Modified Probe was so Powerful it could have destroyed Planet Earth with a flick of the Eye of the turned Crewmen Ilia. Its quite a good Movie I dont even understand why I saw so much hate for it at all XD
The Genesis device sorta counts in that it could be used as a superweapon, but it wasn't intended to be a weapon. It would obliterate an entire planet's biosphere, and replace it with a new one within minutes.
Yeah, the whole idea that nobody ever aged on the Krenim time ship never made sense to me. They would still experience time going forward for themselves from one minute to the next, and from one day to the next. Saying that they just reset their ages every time they used their weapon would also mean they wouldn't remember anything from the other timelines as well, completely negating the purpose for using their ship at all since they'd have no sense of the changes that were occurring.
Not sure how you missed the Genesis Device on this list you know the one that Khan stole and that the Klingon's almost started a war over. It only was the focus of two movies.
The design of the Scimitar looks strangely like the ships from I may not be giving the correct title Battle 3500. It was a SNES game. Ship battle by turn.
there was a giant one-cell creature in a void in one episode of the original series that was consuming entire solar systems as it traveled through space they managed to destroy it before it multiplied. can't remember what the episode was called
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If we’re counting objects that weren’t necessarily intended as super weapons, then we could probably include V’Ger’s ship and the whale probe, both of which would have wiped out life on Earth.
Agreed
The whale probe reminds me of the planet killer from the original series. Is this where the idea came from?
And the genesis device
The did that on st online
Agreed, I figured they'd be on the list for sure. Intent counts, but results count more.
There seems to be a lot of Star Trek ‘super weapons’ missing from this list starting with the Genesis Device. It destroyed an entire Nebula and reformed it into a planet. Then the Echo Papa drone system from TNG (that almost destroyed the Enterprise D). The Tox Uthat (again from TNG) that could destroy a star. The Son’a subspace weapons from Insurrection that caused the Enterprise E to lose a warp core. Dr Soran’s trilithium weapon that blew up 2 stars. And Q weapons from Voyager, that could kill or injure other Q, and had the side effect of causing supernova’s!!
There's a crazy amount of missing entries here.
@@Shakeshift and lets not forget, that time travel itself is a 'super weapon', that was eventually banned in the galaxy after the Temporal Wars.
Yup, it also made a Star. All in hours, so it was massively FTL so much so that the Enterprise shouldn't have been able to escape even if it were 2000 times faster. Kirk was very lucky that he was blasted away prior to the device devouring the whole nebula
TNG also had the Warp Wave generator, intended to replace Warp Drives, which could have destroyed planets.
@@sh4d0wfl4re could of been due to expansion perhaps so they could travel at theyre normal velocity?
Echo papa 607, from the episode “ Arsenal of freedom” fit the definition of a super weapon, it tests an opponent and automatically improved its capabilities until it destroyed what ever it was fighting, only really beaten by Picard when he agrees to purchase the weapon,
I also believe that jjverse should still have to deal with the doomsdays machine, as the doomsday would had started it’s voyages before the point of the time change with the destruction of the Kelvin , the doomsday machine should still be out there somewhere coming, as is veger and the whale probe.
Speaking of the Doomsday Machine, in this one case, I prefer the old version from '66. The model was thinner and more spindly and worn looking and when combined with the filming methods of the time appeared to have thin spots and tiny holes in its hull. Which suggested that it was so ancient that even its otherwise impervious exterior was beginning to wear away.
The phaser spinal lance is also a super weapon.
It's a powerful weapon...but the list he was going for here were weapons that could kill whole planets. It's not quite THAT powerful.
Since there are already mentions of the Genesis Device, let's throw in the various star killing weapons. In By Inferno's Light, the Dominion had a device that could cause a star to go nova, as did Soran's trilithium weapon.
And there's the Varuvian bomb, which can blow a large chunk out of a planet while being small enough to fit on a cart.
The Doomsday Machine has been my FAVORITE TOS episode my entire life. Have been watching Star Trek literally since I was a baby.
I'm sure this was the idea behind the wale probe.
I like the Trek Novel Vendetta by Peter David. It takes a look at the doomsday machine as being an answer to the Borg.
Love that novel, and the Anti Guinan ! My old arse read it on release !
Yup. I read that book and it says that El-Aurians developed it as a weapon against the Borg.
Great book.
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Oh Yes, definitely one of my favorite books!!
And here I thought you were going to talk about Federation weapons. After all it's said in Star Trek that the Enterprise could decimate a planet all on its own in A Taste of Armageddon and elsewhere.
These are pretty impressive given that it only takes a couple photons torpedoes the make a planet unhabitable so most Starfleet ships are basically mini Death Stars!
Uninhabitable vs just plain make it have an Earth Shattering KABOOM!! That's two different things
@@williammitchell4417 if you really wanted to destroy a planet you could just send more photon torpedoes which one is more powerful than most of our nuclear bombs anyways or you could pull a TNG and do some tractor beam magic to almost make a planet's core explode but wouldn't it just be easier if you could just make it where nobody could just live on the planet anyways it's like asking humans to live inside saturn we can't do it!
It's even said that a constitution class could destroy a continent on their constant bombardment from the wiki anyways which is quite believable knowing how powerful the standard for weapons is in Star Trek!!
Star Trek ships are also constructed out of super materials and so was commander Data but whatever but because of this Star Trek ships are also super sturdy and we do see in TOS our Constitution class can be struck with many nuclear warheads and fly out of it mostly unscathed and that's just to give you an idea for the power of a photon torpedo!
This is also why I find those scenarios with people put star destroyers up against Star Trek ships in made up scenarios unbelievable because I cannot see any way how a Star destroyer could even put a dent in the Enterprise that in many other reason!
@@williammitchell4417 blowing up entire planets is wasteful overkill, not something the Federation would engage in. Besides: in a TNG episode the Enterprise‘s phasers are use to break up the tectonic plates of a planet that was in the process of quaking itself into much smaller pieces, thus relieving the seismic stresses and ending the quakes. A less benevolent power would surely find ways to use phasers that can penetrate a planet‘s crust to much more devastating effect.
In a TOS episode Kirk has Spock use the ship‘s phasers to stun an entire city full of people, leaving the infrastructure intact. The stun setting works by overloading the target‘s nervous which doesn‘t require a lot of power. A slight modification of that stun setting could be used to wipe out a planet‘s population while preserving the infrastructure. The power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to versatility of a Federation starship‘s phasers…
I think Steve Berg was a fan of Babylon 5. The Krenim weapon ship reminded me of the B5 station, and 8472 bioships remind me of Vorlon ships.
Trilithium warheads, which I think were mentioned in DS9 and Generations, were capable of blowing up entire stars.
I'd like to make an argument for TNG s3 e3, where the entity Kevin defended his home with a Husnock battle cruiser. Being materialized by Kevin himself he could make the ship as powerful as he so desired. I dunno if that would count as a doomsday weapon, but it was definitely intimidating to see.
You missed a powerful one, The Crystalline Entity. Lore controlled/assisted it for his own plans. Making the Entity a biological superweapon.
The Crystaline Entity was a force of nature, NOT a weapon. Lore simply learned how to comminicate with it and helped find food for it. You are trying too hard to come up with a unique answer.
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I remember recording Doomsday Machine on VHS when I was a kid and watching it over and over again, definitely one of the best episodes ever made! One definite superweapon many overlook in these lists was that energy dampening field used by the Breen towards the end of the Dominion war, how many ships were lost in that battle where it was first activated?
No mention of "Project Genesis", the whole movie was Kirk fighting Klingon to retrieve this weapon.
Also, I would include the "Guardian of Forever" - just for the temptation comment it made to Kirk at the end of the episode.
BTW- love Kirk's reply. :)
I would not include The guardian of forever as it is sentient and can block access to anyone wishing to permanently damage the time line. We see this in discovery as it tested Georgiou before it sent her back to the 23rd century. This is also the reason why the Terrans could not use the guardian of their universe to undo the collapse of the empire thanks to Emporer Spock.
You forgot the Isolythic weapon in a TOS episode that was banned as a planet killer. In Voyager, the original bomb that was to wipe out the Omega particles is supposed to be powerful enough to destroy a planet. There's also the Multi-Kinetic Neutronic Mine that 7of9 wanted to build to be used against the Undine. In TNG there's the Tox Uthot, Trilithium Torpedo and Genesis Torpedo. DS9 had a protomatter bomb that the Bashir Changeling made to blow up the Bajoran sun. Finally the actual Omega particle too.
Lest we forget about the Enterprise-D's Deflector Super Laser they used against the borg. Would have been great if it had worked.
As an example, the Enterprise-B using it's deflector as a repulser beam
The Isokinetic Cannon from Voyager was pretty bad-ass too. Potentially could one-shot other starships, even through significant shielding.
I think we all know that Cisco's "pimp hand" Defiant is the most destructive of them all
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@@masterroshi1015 Benjamin Sisko (Avery Brooks)
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you forgot nomad from the TOS ep the changling
Nomad was not a weapon. Do you people even understand what a superweapon is?
@@jamiebraswell5520 a weapon of mass destruction which nomad became when it wiped out the population of a whole planet before kirk 7 the enterprise got to it
The Cardassian warp torpedo is another super weapon. From what we hear in Warhead on Voyager it is capable of wrecking an entire planet.
What about the whale probe ship thing? Not really a super weapon but fits in the same group as 10 C's mining tech. And also that mother ship for the race of dinosaurs that Voyager ran into could count though we're never told how powerful it actually is. And finally V'ger could be included too given how powerful it was despite not being a "weapon".
Correct, it is NOT a superweapon. Something being powerful and even a huge threat does NOT make it a superweapon. A superweapon is a device created for the intent purpose of killing many people. The Whale Probe was simply sent to see where the whales went, with Spock even explaining to you that it is unaware that its signals are destructive. V'Ger was not a superweapon either, as some here want to think, as it was simply the Living Machine's being nice and upgrading the Voyager probe so that it really could live up to its programming to learn all that is learnable. It was just collecting data as it searched for its creator and eventually achieved consciousness. It was not created for the express purpose of killing people.
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the borg are a super weapon. all them worlds tech into 1 ship and many others. the jem,hadar the dominion have garden of fresh tech. borg cube explore the gamma quadrant and its wonders.
Red Dwarf was a mining ship too
I think you missed one, though it was only mentioned and not seen: the gravimetric torpedo. It was mentioned in the episode Omega of VOY and it was capable of destroying planets. Great list, though!
"All of those guns and it couldn't even tank one decent head butt". I laughed for about a minute.
Q weapons that looked like muskets could blow up stars, and even kill the Q.
Species 8472 vs the Death Star or the Empire
Empire whipped out in matter of days
The "Genesis Device" from Star Trek II used as a weapon would wipe all existing life off a planet. Then there's the "trilithium torpedo" from Star Trek: Generations that could cause the destruction of a star and entire solar system. Some might say the Borg themselves are a superweapon, as they assimilate entire worlds with relative ease. Let's also not forget the "crystalline entity", which consumed all life on a planet.
The Doomsday Machine was always one of my favorites. It was elegantly simple, yet menacing.
You missed the Omega molecule and tri-lithium torpedo.
Omega molecule can destroy faster than light travel for three light years per molecule. Which is why starfleet has the Omega Directive.
Tri-lithium makes a star go boom, destroying entire star systems with one torpedo. Surprised there isn't a Directive for that one.
Trilithium resin will also poison a planet's atmosphere
@@johnrickard8512 It only affects humans. Cardassians are unaffected.
The First Federation flagship, Fesarius. We didn't get to see it attack, but it's scale was far larger than a Borg cube.
Tin Man/Gomtuu. We saw it launch one attack, with which it destroyed a warbird and knocked out the Enterprise at much greater range.
Each Q. They can alter timelines and reality at will. Cause a supernova? Snaps fingers: The big bang worked out differently and your galaxy never existed. That's not even counting the weapons they designed to use against each other.
Genesis, V'ger, the alien ship in ST-IV, Omega, the aliens in the Nth Power who could impart super intelligence and technology to Barclay, the Andromedans in ToS, Sargon in ToS. Apollo in ToS, the alien who destroyed all the Husnock with a thought. The list goes on.
Stupid list made by someone who doesn't know what a superweapon is. Just because something is enormous, powerful, or inadvertantly causing harm does NOT make it a superweapon. You do realize that weaoons are created for the express purpose of killing, don't you? If it is a superweapon, then it was created to kill a great many people on a massive scale. How does V'ger, the Whale Probe, Gomtuu, the Q, etc even qualify for that?? They are not even weapons. Their powers have nothing to do with being weapons. Stop being silly and show us that you understand Star Trek instead.
the omega mollecule itself, the breen energy dampening weapon that ultimately took out the first defiant, the spinal lance seen on the future enterprise in all good things...
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Nice list. I too loved the Doomsday Machine episode it's my favorite TOS episode. Although the shape of the Doomsday Machine was always hilarious. Personally I like the updated CG version of the show especially for this episode.
Maybe a video based on some of the classes seen in star trek armada and armada 2. Thinking the premonition and the incursion class. Maybe even going as far as the fleet ops mod.
I love that idea with the doomsday machine.
A weapon so old that even its nearly indestructible armor couldn't stop the slow march of time from stripping its hull down to a weird misshapened tube. But even in that state the thing was still dangerous enough that it might even be a match for 25 century starships.
Quite a hefty one in Picard season 2, that the decent sized fleet and the Borg massive ship had to block.
William Windom put in absolutely the performance of his career as Commodore Decker, as easily the best guest role in the entire ST franchise.
Nomad, if not confused about its maker, would've gone to Earth and sterilized it. TOS. Love that episode as well as doomsday.
Let me add that Nomad was the narrative basis for V'Ger in TMP. Both had potential as planet killers, or at least genocidal devices on a planetary scale.
I loved the Narada design and the Borg technology being used only made it better.
Many comments mention you left out The Genesis Device, although it wasn't intended as a weapon (Although the technology is used to develop a weapon in "The Genesis Wave" series). There is also no mention of the Metreon Cascade, which WAS intentionally a weapon of mass destruction. The Cardassian Dreadnought missile also comes to mind. Of course, orbital bombardment with a couple dozen Quantum Torpedoes would be quite destructive, so maybe starships themselves are "superweapons"?
I’m sorry but the Borg cutting beam was scary
Kinda like having a scalpel against your throat versus a katana, both can take you apart but the gutting ahem cutting beam is slower and requires more cuts and thus more horrifying
Echo papa 607 Was probably one of the most dangerous weapons in Star Trek. It wiped out it's creators and nearly destroyed the Enterprise D. It continuously adapts to it's target, like the Borg, but even more efficient. Picard only "stopped" it by agreeing to buy the weapon for the automated merchant. Revealing that this thing did all this in DEMO MODE. Imagine if it was deployed offensively.
I refuse to talk about echo papa 607 on account of how often it murdered my ships in Birth of the Federation. 🤣🤣🤣
@@xedanis101 Should have agreed to the three year service plan.
I liked how that novel imagined the Doomsday Machine as a weapon against the Borg, though it was frustrating how wildly different novel interpretations of the Borg were and how almost everything mysterious from the original series and movies was reimagined to involve them. And usually well enough written that I wanted the conflicting stories to all be right. The "sharp edged bubbles" from The Probe being a particular favorite.
Tbh, almost every Starfleet ship could be a super weapon. It was said even a 23rd century Constitution class could lay waste an entire continent if it really wanted to
Nomad, Tri-Cobalt devices, Q weapons, Fesarius
Tox Uthat. A device the size of a grapefruit that can cause a sun to go super nova, wiping out the system and devastating lightyears of space in every direction. How can you miss this?!?
I once did some rough calculations and from a mass or density perspective, one inch of neutronium is equivalent to an entire kilometer of steel. Or iron, I forget which one.
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I actually agree that the Doomsday machine was one of the best original series episodes, and it went into the ideas of why people shouldn’t make super weapons
Star Trek lore is filled with super weapons. Photon Torpedoes are more than capable of destroying planets, depending on the yield, and payload. Harry Kim even vocalizes this when they're modifying a torpedo in the Omega Directive episode of Voyager, and as much as I hate Discovery, there's a fantastic scene where the Empress destroys a rebel planet with nothing more than Photon Torpedoes, decimating the surface. There have been several missiles and bombs that can cause a star to go supernova (Generations TNG film, DS9 season 5x15 By Inferno's Light). Then there's the genesis device, the manheim effect experiments (TNG: We'll always have Paris), subspace weapons (Insurrection), and AI enhanced torpedoes (Voyager had at least 2 episodes dealing with these one was Cardassian designed and the other of an alien origin).
Honestly as the series have continued, the continual defanging of phasers in general is something that has always disappointed me. In the original series and to a lesser extent Next Generation, phasers both handheld and ship based were weapons to tremendous power. Forcing the protagonists to find and chose a different solution to their problems as opposed to just shooting their way out. But since people seem to crave the mindless lightshow and action of constant firefights, they're now no more powerful than a Star Wars blaster.
@@JarodCain Yeah it's annoying.Hand phasers will atomize rock or steel, almost anything you can use for cover in the original series. Then they got far less powerful in TNG DS9 and Voy, but with more versatile settings, like wide beam and multi beams, yet they're barely used because, well just because.
The Scimitar reminded me of a Lionfish
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I kinda feel like the Romulan plasma cannon from Balance of Terror would've qualified for this list.
The Tox Uthat, a device designed to interfere with or restart the fusion reaction in a star, can be used as a weapon.
Not sure if these would count but ....
Phaser Lance from the Enterprise D refit in the alternate timeline.
The weapon from the kelvin timelines Dreadnought class.
The weapon ? M.I.R.V. style photon torpedoes ?
Surprised that the Omega Molecule didnt make the list
Neelix's cooking...though I don't believe they ever actually weaponized it. Missed opportunities, Janeway.
That last item, reminds me of the still unanswered puzzle and/or question..what the hell happened to it after it was finally defeated.? Personally I would have done one of 2 or 3 things, if were there..(in that universe/time-line): mine it for it's rare matter elements, attempt to safely study it's alien systems, or..deeming it too dangerous..drop it into the nearest non-sunstar.. to prevent it accidentally getting reactivated..stopping the whole mess starting again.
There's the Jem'Hadar battleship, absolutely massive in size and heavily armed, even galaxy class were no match against it, let alone the tiny Defiant class. Then there's the illusionary Husnock ship generated by Kevin Uxbridge, it could absorb all forms of directed energy and had weapons with increasing higher output. Plus, being a projection created by an immortal being, it's essentially invincible.
5:27 The ending here is ambiguous, but it's implied that history was about to repeat itself.
I would of included the solar probes used in Star trek generations.
The neutronium hull of the Doomsday Machine reminds me of the concept of compressed matter armor. It would read as something similar to neutronium, or the matter at the heart of neutron stars. Starfleet sensors would have trouble differentiating between both I would think, since it would be a technology unfamiliar to them.
Speaking of the Planet Killer, I got a crazy idea. Link the Krenin Timeship to the Doomsday Machine. I got two ways it could be done.
One is to have the Krenim encounter one of the machines or find scans someone else took of it, and attempt to replicate its primary weapon. Along their reverse engineering they stumble upon creating the temporal core and weapon. Its a stretch I know, but it could be they simply got inspired by tales of the thing.
The second idea is that the doomsday machine is the ghost of the Timeship, as it was being destroyed it attempted to escape and it got sent to beginning of time! Because of the damage, its hull has been twisted and altered by the ravages of both the destruction caused by Voyager and the energies it encountered at the start of the universe. The "neutronium" hull could be a modification it made along the way. As for its pilot it would be the remnants of the ship's AI, operating on pseudo instincts.
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Species 8472 is a fictional extraterrestrial species in the science fiction television series Star Trek: Voyager. Species 8472 is a designation given to them by the Borg. The multiplayer game Star Trek Online gives their proper name as Undine.
@haakonstenseth I am pretty sure that Undine is mentioned in Voyager as well. The one where they make a mock up of SF Academy.
Imagine the Doomsday Machine Vs. The Death Star! ;-)
The Death Star is just a snack for the Doomsday Machine.
@@Thurgosh_OG Toss in a few Borg cubes and we have a huge tossed Space Salad! 😉🤣🖖🏼
maybe the doomsday machine was borg origin. the first ship. then became cubes.
Ugh. Stop with these STUPID ideas already. The galaxy...the universe...is huge. Why does everything have to be Borg?🙄
@@jamiebraswell5520 thats what she wants. 1 million light years across all borg.
Soran's solar probes. They were a whole step up from a planet killer, they killed entire solar systems!
But the Krenim Timeship is by far the most powerful in Trek and definitely in the upper echelon of fictional superweapons.
Remember the IsoKinetic Cannon? Also remember the Transphasic Torpedoes? Of course both are from the Voyager series.
In my opinion, there's still a reference to the original doomsday machine design in the finished episode. Look at the damage sustained by the Constellation. In both the original and the updated effects, the damage is more consistent with being caused by pinpoint weapons, like phasers and maybe torpedoes, not by the huge beam the doomsday machine actually uses.
I like to think of the Enterprise series as having been an alternate history holonovel with little to no basis in actual history, that Riker was just watching for fun.
Scimitar was classified as a "Reman Warbird", not a Bird of Prey. Although I do understand the confusion regarding the naming conventions of Trek vessels, particularly when concerning all the damn bird ships used by different species, lol.
The Genesis device being capable of terraforming planets, or wiping out existing species from a world to be transformed into something else, or the TriLithium weapon of Dr Soran, able to halt nuclear processes in stars, and turn solar systems into wandering rogue planets at the least; the Son'aa weapon able to create tears in spacetime. Not yet made into a weapon per se, but the Omega molecule container filled with the omega molecules is able to destroy warp space for light years around an area, preventing any use of warp drives.
Why would we dunk on him for loving The Doomsday Machine?
I mean... who doesn't like that episode?
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Personally I think the Scimitar looked kinda like a Lionfish and I figured that was the idea. Sort of A not so subtle Link to Shinzan and Picard.
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Given that an ounce of a Neutron star, which is the likely source of the material that these machines were constructed from, weighs as much as Mt. Everest, it's amazing that this vessel's gravitational field didn't grab the Enterprise when it made its phaser run, and turn it into an atom in thickness splattered stain.
What about Wesley Crusher? His existence almost destroyed the entire ST universe
I'm amazed the Genesis Project didn't get a mention. While not being designed AS a super weapon, it is a super weapon on it's own accord. It literally destroys the surface of a planet and reterraforms it whatever the hell a person wants.
You forgot V'Ger from the Motion Picture, I know I know, Motion Picture wasnt the best and especially not the mostly loved Movie, its still the first try making a Star Trek movie after Phase two was cancelled but V'Ger is in my opinion a wonderful Idea, an unknown Species, even speculated as early Borg did modify the Voyager Missions Probe to send it back and make first Contact where the Probe got conciousness itself and decided to destroy the Planet if it cant find its Owner to bring them the Message this unknown Mechanical Species had. This Species suggested that Humans werent the most advanced Species but Whales and Dolphins, but because there werent any Whales anymore the Probe couldnt communicate and started annihilate all Life on Planet Earth which would have ended in destroying said Planet. (If you think about the Message behind the Movie its pretty good tho) The Modified Probe was so Powerful it could have destroyed Planet Earth with a flick of the Eye of the turned Crewmen Ilia. Its quite a good Movie I dont even understand why I saw so much hate for it at all XD
The Genesis device sorta counts in that it could be used as a superweapon, but it wasn't intended to be a weapon. It would obliterate an entire planet's biosphere, and replace it with a new one within minutes.
10:50 well one they weren't expecting jt
And two if they did expect it i believe the shields would have
5:41 Do I see a draft design for the Defiant?
Yeah, the whole idea that nobody ever aged on the Krenim time ship never made sense to me. They would still experience time going forward for themselves from one minute to the next, and from one day to the next. Saying that they just reset their ages every time they used their weapon would also mean they wouldn't remember anything from the other timelines as well, completely negating the purpose for using their ship at all since they'd have no sense of the changes that were occurring.
Not sure how you missed the Genesis Device on this list you know the one that Khan stole and that the Klingon's almost started a war over.
It only was the focus of two movies.
The design of the Scimitar looks strangely like the ships from I may not be giving the correct title Battle 3500. It was a SNES game. Ship battle by turn.
Also, no one has mention Omega particles. Fractures subspace, preventing warp drive use, in an entire sector. Pretty nasty thing to do to a race.
there was a giant one-cell creature in a void in one episode of the original series that was consuming entire solar systems as it traveled through space they managed to destroy it before it multiplied. can't remember what the episode was called
I think you forgot transphysic torpedoe the yellow thingy could destroy a cube with one hit.
William Windom was a great actor in the Doomsday Machine
You missed the Genesis Device from st2:wrath of khan 🙂
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I say that Riker's Enterprise from "All Good Things" should have been here.
You need to have a matchup video. Who would win?
The species 8472 ships look very similar to the Vorlon from babylon 5