Triumph Speed 400 vs Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 Compared | The Better British Roadster?
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- The Triumph Speed 400 aims to punch above its weight, literally. So, naturally we thought of bringing in our much liked 650cc retro roadster: the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650. Does the Speed 400 triumph in this company or is the Interceptor 650 just too good to thwart its fellow Indo-Brit cousin? Let Priyadarshan and Jehan break down the two bikes in a tete-e-tete.
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U missed out on how the RE heats up in traffic and the speed 400 's exaggerated speedo reading. Otherwise another fantastic sensless comparo.
Could it be because RE's product designers sit in (cool) UK, creating "cool" bikes for Indians? Or is because RE test riders in India (or their test bikes) are air-conditioned? And therefore more than just 'cool' ? Just as KTMs are designed in (cool) Austria.
Perhaps you guys could let me know of the possibilities? On my insta or twitter? Would really appreciate the info.
Bigger engine is gonna heat up man no two ways about it
But still the bigger issue is the Weight which is forward biased due to the nature of the engine sure it somewhat goes while riding but due to the traffic and the city maneuvering that bike sure misses the mark overall for it's nimbleness and it's bang for the buck proposition,
Sure it has bigger displacement but that weight for that displacement is sure it's negative point as to how the displacement & the engine construction is the plus point for RE Interceptor 650,
where the earlier models reported to break from the steering cone area where 2 or 3 incident reported where the bike broke from the front, sure it's now rectified but still it needs refinement and weight reduction to make that engine and that displacement shine,
@@Hsp44 there's a difference between LC engines with forced air cooling and an air-cooled one without forced air cooling.
I've ridden both. Triumph is extremely refined and slick in the traffic. While interceptor is more torquey and planted. But after getting off both bikes, I felt interceptor had something special that lured me into liking it more.
I’m leaning towards the Triumph because it’s a lighter. Was there a noticeable difference when riding?
@@banzairunner7860 Triumph had the agility of a 150cc bike so was very easy to ride in the city and had very less heating. Only go for interceptor if you want that twin cylinder experience.
@@ADITHYA84thanks for letting me know, I’d also wanna go for the interceptor just for that twin sound
Well, i have an interceptor and a scooter.
95% of the time i use the scooter, because its practical, but the joy of just riding the interceptor is unmatched
@@needaneym1932 What scooter do You drive?
Here in Brazil the Triumphs 400 are about the same price that the Interceptor and Continental. So for the price (here) I still would choose one of the RE!
Not the same...the Triumph is R$ 5.000 more expensive. and 5k its a lot of money
interceptor riders won't sell their bikes to get any single cylinder bike no matter how quick or lighter it is. they are bikes for different purposes.
Unfortunately I’m selling my interceptor for the triumph, The power is on par with interceptor, the build quality is way above interceptor, the ride quality is superb and the weight, it’s just non existent….
I am riding Int650 from more than 4 years and have took that maching many of the difficult himalan terrain and trust me with the time if you are macho enought to handel it
will fall in love.
Very true. Majority of int riders will not switch to a single cylinder. But they might buy a single cylinder as an extra bike for different needs/wants.
@@vinay19889 Indeed even I was thinking the same, but maintaining two bikes is again a hassle.
If I’m going to upgrade from my interceptor it has to be an upgrade, and I would get myself a real bonnie 🙄 speed 900 or 1200
Took a test ride of speed 400 today.. though it’s a short test ride of 5 mins, I am really impressed with the bike.. the bike is very refined & has really zero vibration compared to my bs4 390..able to manage 75kmph on that short ride without any vibration.. as I am the 1st test rider of that day, don’t face any heating issues…riding is like gliding over the roads and you also feel bike quality while riding.. no rattling, no buzzing from any part..it’s like all the parts have been properly tightened & insulated..gear change is also sleeker than my existing bike..over all a very fantastic experience..never rode a Royal Enfield so can’t compare with it..
390s are raw. They are unrefined but 390s are so fast.
@@jake9671 yes duke is fast and the handling is phenomenal.. but speed 400 is like more sorted and mature product ..much more comfortable than my bs4 duke..any way I will keep them both ( if I am end up buying the speed 400)..
@@tsk8349 Exactly but I think if you want to take a notch above, I'd say INT 650. The double cylinder is always gonna be more refined but it's not going to have an acceleration close to that of either the Duke or the Speed 400. I've an RC 390 and I'm actually thinking about an INT 650 and mod it completely. I'm thinking about a used one.
@@jake9671 interceptor is a beautiful machine but it’s too heavy for me.. and to be honest I think engine capacity beyond 400 cc is not practical in India.. 400 cc hits the sweet spot.. you don’t feel underpowered in highways and also don’t get fried during city commute..
@@tsk8349 You're right. It's a very heavy bike at almost 220 kg. I think it should have been less than close to 190 or something but I've test ridden it and I can handle it.
Well, I agree that you can take it above 400 if its a sport bike in India. Even 400 CC is a bit too much in India in my opinion. A 300 is sufficient but the reason why I'm thinking about INT 650 is because of something called a flat torque curve.
Make sure you compare the power curve before buying any vehicles.
The Inty has 47 bhp which you can use realistically since the engine doesn't rattle throughout the rev range. The T400 on the otherhand, has 40bhp @ 8000 RPM but the bike starts buzzing and vibrating post 6000 RPM which makes using all the power quite difficult.
I sincerely wanted the T400 to be a better bike and I was seriously planning to "downgrade" from my Inty. But I did a test ride and so did a dozen other Inty owners that I know - we all came to the same conclusion that the torque, handling and city riding experience is nice. But the vibrations completely ruin the feel of the bike, the engine feels quite strained and all of the 40bhp is not useable.
This video should've been a bit more in depth but simply comparing stats and figures can easily be done on a website.
Then wait for the first few batches where hopefully they will sort out these issues n then reconsider again. . . Even though the Interceptor has more power n torque, the 400 actually gives a similar performance n betters it in in-gear acceleration, not to forget much more things like less weight, lower price tag, better FE n longer service interval. . . Plus if u intend to use it regularly in the city extensively with occasional highways trips, the vibs at higher gears shouldn't bother u much. . .
@@radarroi27 Let's hope so. I'm waiting for some people to own this bike for a longer time and then see how the engine feels. I mostly use it as a weekend bike so highway performance takes precedence.
that's why I waited for dual cylinder bike in budget. thankfully royal enfield brought interceptor. yes its parts quality is not good, requires replacements of random parts every few months but the engine and touring capability is best in price range.
Re is overall outdated and short shelf life bike
I am surprised how almost every reviewer on RUclips is ignoring the vibrations of triumph..All are paid reviews I believe..Thanks for pointing this out
I believe its not fair to compare single cylinder with dual cylinder bikes. twin has its own advantages like no vibes even at top speed and feel of engine is in different level.
Aprilia just launched its 2cyl. 457...How unfair yet lovely!!!
@@icanmakeariverintoocean3481 Labels become irrelevant after test riding options in different situations/use cases - especially when a market is in a nascent stage, where consumers can't distinguish between what they want and what they need.
@@icanmakeariverintoocean3481 Since you love metaphors, Enfield conceived continental gt as a sportbike (spicy) and the Interceptor as a cruiser (Sweet). So a comparison ride (not video brochure) between Aprilia 457 and Conti GT would be spice v/s spice - or, to use another metaphor Apples to Apples.
@@icanmakeariverintoocean3481 There's big difference between showing the world that one owns and rides a sport bike, and showing the world how well one can race it.
@@icanmakeariverintoocean3481 Helping you progress your motorcycle riding experiences from a river into an ocean.
I owned a 650 gt for 3 years, and I would never buy a RE again. I admit it looks good and the twin engine was fun but it had a lot of drawbacks.
First of all, ever since my first service I realised that RE had a tough time servicing and regulating the quality for this bike since their mechanics were still new to it. So maintenance was very difficult because mechanics could not resolve the valve clearance issues and found it even complicated to replace fluids like the brake oil after the second year. They simply wouldn't do it. Also, there is no replacement for the brake bleeder valve available.
Second, this bike overheats in the warmer months and thus, is reluctant to be in the higher revs post 4000 rpm. I found that the my bike wasn't comfortable crusing at 100kmph. It did 80kmph comfortably but that was it. I don't know whether this was an issue with mine alone or whether I was just too concerned for my bike. But nevertheless, high rpms were not its thing and it got boring after a while.
Third, the electricals are kind of wacky. My bike's horn electricals got loss over time; the pass light lost its touch and sometimes the ignition wouldn't start. I've seen many people face a problem with battery and ignition. I often kept the bike running for 10 mins as recommended for the first start of the day but, that was quite the hassle over time and during winters I couldn't afford to do it time and again as the engine got cold sooner.
So, I've decided to look at Jap bikes from now on. Regardless of whether they're single cylinder bikes. I hear the KTM/Bajaj bikes have good servicing since they're liquid cooled and since they do not have a center stand a padock stand it used during service. This says a lot about the service quality in my experience. I've never liked KTMs because of its popularity but now the Triumph seems like a good option especially since the service seems reliable.
give a chance would u purchase 650 twins or duke 390 and just two reason as to why?
@@increasingsun Now that Triumph has released the S400 I would buy Triumph.
Mine cruises all day at 130 plus and can keep touching 150 for overtaking and stuff
Surely need a good workshop
@@rumadoye I faced a lot of issue with my bike ever since the first service. I'm from Assam, and here, I found that the mechanics at RE could not resolve most of my issues. They found it a hassle. So I suppose the issue could've been in mine alone but nevertheless, I had a wholesome experience with it all and I would personally stay away from RE.
Triumph speed 400 is certainly more desirable but it remains to be seen as of how many people are willing to transition from RE to Triumph.
Not me. Shameless RE Fanboy 😂
*BARRY* 🎉
People talking about engine refinement at high speeds ...let me ask you how many of you ride over 100kmph every day in the city and highways in Maharashtra has a speed limit anyway so speeds of 120+ are rarely met...in that regard both bikes are very smooth till 100 , both have enough tourque low down to accelerate quick from standstill or on inclines even with the pillion, both heat evenly...the only difference is that 40kg weight , 60k price , quality of material,the nimbleness and definitely better suspension . I have ridden both the bikes. The triumph for most part will do everything that the 650 does easily. But if you are ok with the weight and the rawness then the twin cylinder on the 650 is excellent and the feel & the sound is awesome. The speed400 by the way looks very small for a guy like me who's 6foot 95 kgs so scrambler400 might be the solution....it does not have a wow factor on the road at all .
Triumph Speed 400 looks good but it's just another good single cylinder bike. After having/riding many one cylinder bikes for the past 20-30 years many bikers including me want 2 or more cylinder bikes at a reasonable price. This is where Int 650 makes sense.
Yeah man triumph missed the opportunity they should have given it 500cc 270* parallel twin engine with 44-45ps of power and 47-48nm of torque and priced it at 3.43-53 lakh ex showroom
@@Hsp44 Bajaj doesn't have such a motor so there was no chance. They need to tie up with Chinese manufacturers who have such engines.
@@brendonfernandes2877 why not they set up their own factory and start manufacturing in india
@@Hsp44 Small market. High capacity bikes are sold in very few numbers in India so they went through a joint venture with Bajaj. They will launch a 250cc bike as well for the Indian market via their Bajaj joint venture
@@brendonfernandes2877 they can export from india plus sales are increasing in 300-600cc capacity
It's not a comparison between these 2 bikes. It's just a marketing gimik from Triumph to push their 1st batch bike into the market & test it out.
In my head, it's very simple and that's what made me take a decision.
INTERCEPTOR 650: IS A VERY MATURE BIKE IT DOES ALL THE DUTIES LIKE IT SHOULD DO ALL DAY, LONG EFFORTLESSLY, AND INCREDIBLY SMOOTHLY AND INTERCEPTOR ARE GALACTICALLY MORE CUSTOMIZABLE.
Triumph/KTM/Bajaj : THESE ARE YOUTH ORIENTED BIKES, THEY HAVE THAT BRILLIANT RACE-Y FEEL TO THEM.
AS A MAN WHO IS 32 YEARS OLD, I WOULD ALWAYS PREFER STEADY, SMOOTH AND MATURE. It would have been a different story if I was in my 20s.
These journalists get paid by Triumph I guess. This is such a baseless comparison. One is a retro bike and the other is not. Compare the speed 400 with similar character bikes like ktm 390 or dominar 400. That would have been a great video. Claiming that this bike would eat into the Royal Enfields market is dumb. RE has a different set of fans that can't be challenged unless you have a cheaper Bonneville in the lineup. This speed 400 will be a successful bike but it will eat up the market of Honda, ktm, bajaj and similar bikes. I own an Interceptor 650 and I like it because it has a distinctive character that gives so much joy. Its never boring but sadly its not true for the other bike. Interceptor with all its shortcomings is a great bike and it will continue to be one. Period
Kudos to RE for making this bike, it has its limitations and cons, but the only bike that got compared to both Speed 400 and Speed 900 (at that time the Street Twin).
Mielage 22
Interceptor for me, any day of the week. The only downside is the subpar build quality. RE needs to bring it on par with the build quality of the SM650/Speed 400 and fit in better tyres.
3लाख 75k & power 47hp🤣🤣🤣
That would just double the price of their product and at that price point none will even look at it, forget about buying!
@@ghostrider..rajbhai8718 47hp is ample for Indian conditions. Also, 47hp still makes it the most powerful motorcycle under 4 lakhs.
So pointers from Zigwheels comparo:-
Speed 400 > Interceptor:-
1. Speed 400 revs quicker than Interceptor..
2. Speed 400 feels more sportier, more alive..
3. Speed 400 is quicker than Interceptor in Roll On/ In gear acceleration.. Also outright acceleration..
4. Speed 400 is more tractable than Interceptor..
5. More compact/ light form factor of Speed 400 makes it so much easier in city..
6. Interceptor's 42kgs extra weight really shows as soon as you pull it out of its stands & push around.. Important parameter as Roadster..
7. Interceptor's rider footpegs brushing/ hitting the rider's shin (age old Interceptor flaw unresolved)..
8. Interceptor needs lot more effort to maneuver in traffic due to bigger 18" wheels & higher weight.. Speed 400 is much more flickable..
9. Speed 400 has much more sorted Rider Ergonomics & this is evident when you switch bikes one after the other..
10. Interceptor footpeg position is very high up & therefore the rider calf is close to the hamstring with restricted/ tighter rider triangle.. Not comfortable for larger riders..
11. Pillion seat ergonomics of Interceptor is very poor due to much high pillion footpeg position (again an age old flaw in the bike)..
12. Ride quality of the Triumph is far superior at slow or high speed & the sophisticated suspension soaks up undulations amazingly well.. Interceptor rear suspension feels too soft & hits the limit/ bottoms out & the bike's overall suspension is imbalanced & inconsistent..
13. Ceat Zoom Tryes on Interceptor is very poor & just no match for the Apollo H1s on Speed 400.. Even trye width is much more on Speed 400.. On a wet road the interceptor is scary to go above 60kmph due to poor tyres..
14. Interceptor has lost its special touch anymore as it's 5yrs old flaws have not been resolved..
Interceptor > Speed 400:-
1. Interceptor is more linear & feels smoother even in redline..
2. Interceptor feels more tractable (only the feeling)..
3. Interceptor feels more relaxed to do speeds higher than 120kmph while Speed 400 screams..
4. Interceptor cruises at lower rpm at 120kmph & therefore feels more relaxed due to higher cc & twin cylinders..
5. Interceptor seat is much harder & therefore better than Speed 400 for long distance riding..
? It definitely isn't even quicker than the Himalayan, let alone the Interceptor.
Guys, I cannot stress enough how important this comparison is for people like me who are trying to find now a daily commuter around this price (Int, Speed 400), in the best possible set-up right from the factory. Of course, we know, there is no perfect set-up right from the factory because that depends on the specific person's needs/body type etc but you know what I mean.
Buying the Int, fm what I have seen so far after a long period of extended search (watching review videos, long-term, all over the world, comparisons, getting in forums fm all over the world, hearing the same things fm so many different people) means you have to replace the seat, the tyres & the rear suspension to say the least!
The key thing for me was what you said regarding riding quality! That it's leaps & bounds better than the Int's. That's a very crucial factor for my intended purpose of using my next bike. Even though I prefer the looks of the Int (no question about it, I prefer the retro look to the modern), it's not that much of a "thing" for me if don't get the relevant riding quality I want/expect. So, if I can have a better experience right fm the get-go (for my intended purpose) riding the Speed 400, maybe the Sped 400 edges out the Int.
If RE had listened more to their customers' feedback over the last 5 years & had improved things like the suspension, the seat, and the tyres coming out of the factory (especially the suspension issues) the Int would absolutely have no worthy opponent in that price range!
As I said to a friend of mine, the last few years I was expecting the "big" companies to come back with a way to take a piece of the pie after they realized how much people wanted/needed bikes in the middle range capacity for daily commuting without breaking the bank!
Triumph, with the Speed 400/Scrambler X (and probably Honda with the CL500 I believe) found the way indirectly to target customers fm another cc category (400 v 650) by NOT offering less of a quality product to keep the price down BUT by reducing the engine capacity, with almost the same if not better performance!
I took a test drive of speed 4000 and liked every bit of it. Ialso found noticeable heating in speed 400 .. but it is a performance bike and i hoped you guys would have been able to comment on this aspect and compare the difference
I’m glad we have more bikes in the market to choose from.
Buying my triumph on April 2024!
Thank you for this. I'm waiting for the release of the Speed 400 here in the US before deciding between it and the RE Continental GT. Sadly, the RE still comes with spoke wheels in this country, and I have to say that you are right about it needing a bit of all-around updating.
I've never owned a thumper, and I wouldn't even consider the Triumph except for its low weight. It should be good enough for solo riding with my dry body weight of 66 kilos on top . . . I'll find out next year!
Rather then waiting you should check out triumph trident 660 it's a fairly good bike for it's price
@@xgamershub A good bike, yes, but I don't like how it looks.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 honda has better looks at similar price range
@@patrickfitzgerald2861I believe you'll like the Conti better.
@@samcrdx8016 I have a feeling RE is going to make some major changes in the US starting next year. We'll see.
Nice review. However, you missed out on why you had said "speedo indicated" initially. Did you mean to say that the Speed 400 has significant speedo error when compared to the GPS speeds ?
Speed is a small bike , i am 5'11 and the bike feels small and looks tiny on me , i own an int650 and it looks way more proportionate. Also the rear footpeg problem has been solved a while back there are 3rd party footpeg kits that fix that situation.
Thanks for this video, my mind was jumping between the Continental 650 GT and Speed 400 .. But it looks the Speed 400 checks all my preferences in my checklist. The design, the power, looks an allrounder. Im waiting for the Scrambler 400x. Please do a review on Scrambler 400X.
If you are comfortable with 20-22 kmpl go for GT. But if you want only one bike in your garage go for triumph
Bro if you have ridden both GT650 and Triumph you will definitely choose gt650
The footpeg only caused an issue for me for the first week
I know it's not a direct comparison but speaking price wise, I really find the X440 to be a good product. People will nitpick. But the ones who truly appreciate it will buy it. Some people just can't get over bhp wars though
X440 for 3 lakh is good but I think better than speed 400
Indian people purchase what crowd purchases with great paper speacs
@@vikasshelke5544 you're one hundred percent right. That's exactly what Indians do. Sadly. If they didn't, Honda wouldn't have launched so many Activa's
Speed 400 is the better of the two...one can opt the performance kit for smooth riding experience and better power delivery. Speed 400 is the bike or we can say a new standard for bikes.
@@krishnakumart94 may be...but torque is not all a bike needs...its about everything in your command and speed does it better. After the performance kit i.e. oil, plugs, filters, exhaust etc speed will be at its max. I agree that 650 is a good machine but 400 does it much better at its 400 and just think about the speed in its 650 avatar and then compare it you will get to know the true potential this bike has. I am RE fan but these bikes like speed 400 and x440 has shown us that we deserve much better bikes. We must praise the standards and raise the standards every time, never settle.
many won't agree with you. I was never a RE fan until they brought twin engine in budget. INT and speed400 are bikes for different purposes. those who are too weak or small to manage heavy bikes and are ok with poor single cylinder can go with speed400. for any INT rider, going for speed40 is certainly a downgrade in terms of power,torque and touring.@@sssrp
@@dhavald4359 yes 650 is a good bike and I have no doubt...the cheapest twin cylinder bike...yes its awesome...but the quality levels, reliability issues, finishing etc are the points along with the justified pricing (for 350's), which RE need to consider.
We dont know speed 400 reliability of high compression engine like duke... At least RE we know service and spares
@@Rahul-kp6wn reliability comes with age, thats true but here I am comparing just the quality levels and the other factors. And if I talk about RE we all have seen broken himalyan, engine issues with bullet and thunderbird, issues with 650 in its initial years. Having a good service network just means good accessibility in terms of repair and service but that doesn't mean that the product is highly reliable. With time RE has evolved a lot and are making good bikes but not the better bikes, and this is the reason I always felt that RE bikes are overpriced.
So nice to see PD back. Thank you Jehan Darukhanawala for the doing the video with the co-host.
It's surprising you didn't talk even once about refinement. Journalism bias is not a good thing
They mentioned it at @1:41
Interceptor owner spotted
He said it's really smooth?? Isn't that refinement?
@@tshetemyes he mentioned that the Interceptor is smooth throughout the rev range. But they never mention how is the vibration on the Triumph. Is it like the Dominar or is it like the Gixxer 250 - that is something they avoided. Nowadays it's just like reading between the lines. From what I have heard from lesser biased reviews is that the Triumph can do with some more vibration damping
@@iamrobot396 yes bro I own an Interceptor BS6. But you know what, RE is shit, but Harris Performance has created a gem of a motorcycle. Each and every drawback of the Interceptor that has been mentioned in this video is true. But, trust me you will forget everything when you pull the throttle, you get pushed back, and hear that supercharger like whine from the engine.
There are some spec mistakes in your video..
Interceptor 650's max torque is 52.3Nm@5150rpm.. max power is 47.4Ps@7250rpm.. Weighs 218 kgs kerb..
Speed 400's max torque is 37.5Nm@6500rpm.. max power is 40Ps@8000rpm.. Weighs 176 kgs kerb..
Also the Triumph Speed 400 costs 2.33 lacs ex showroom.. While RE Interceptor 650 now costs 3.21 lacs ex showroom for alloy wheels variant.. So the price difference is actually 88K ex showroom.. On road in Bangalore the price difference is 1.15 lacs!!..
I would still pick interceptor for touring. after all drawbacks its the engine and stability that makes up.
What's the tank capacity and range?
Total tank capacity is 13L but you ought to maintain reserve due to fuel pump. Realistic range in city is around 225 km and highway is usually 300 km.
Ps: I own an interceptor
@@krazzykidabhijeet with that kind of range it's not so useful for touring. Basically you can't even do Leh to Pangong and back without carrying loads of Jerry cans. Even on plain highways you would need to look out for fuel stations after every 100-120 kms or so.
Also the 220kg plus weight is no good for wet and muddy roads. You'll need at least 3 people to pick up the bike after every fall when it is loaded with fuel and luggage. That's the primary reason I prefer to stick with single cylinder. It might not bring all that much (extra)fun inside City but it takes you places where you can't even imagine on twin, triple or inlines.
@@myselfyuvi I haven’t done such a long ride myself so I may not be the best person to judge it’s touring prowess. Choose whatever suits you best. Good luck. 👍
I've done the entire route you mentioned and more (8350kms Kolkata to Kolkata) and never ran into any of the issues that you mentioned. Got a solid mileage of 25.
Familiarity breeds contempt? The first 2 years evaluations could easily have been sorted by now. I rode the Int for 3 years. Wonder if the Speed 400 will arrive at similar considerations by 5 years. I have plans to downsize from my Tiger Sport 850 to a Tiger lower displacement, mainly for a lower weight (since I am 165 cm, 66kg & 73 years old)! Will know by the second quarter next year. Thanks for this assessment. Seems reasonable.
Actually would like a Tiger 500 or near about with a low seat option. My current bike is bloody marvelous. But with age and intentions, I would like a lighter bike.....
Triump speed 400 is best bike in the competition of this range❤
400 is a great bike, no doubt. But Inty all the way! On open roads, the way it feels. Just waves n waves of torque with that twin cylinder 270 degree crankshaft. It's pure bliss on the highways and quite fun in and around the city. For a train cylinder experience and for how much it costs in India, it's difficult not to consider.
Thanks for the comparison i was confused between this 2 am still confused though but it’s good that you compared..
The verdict was clear.. But you are confused 😛
Interceptor just needs better tyres (haven't tried new vredestien tyres yet) and probably a bigger section tyre at rear. The ceat tyres don't give me the confidence while cornering, specially in rain. They have also skidded too much for my liking in the past in dry conditions. A 150 section rear tyre is all interceptor and GT needs now in the yearly upgrade, apart from a more accurate fuel metre and a more reliable fuel pump.
Vredestiens are far better than the previous versions. I have gt with vredestiens and I could feel the difference easily between my bike and the test bike I rode which had ceat tyre
The interceptor should ideally come with a bigger bore, traction control and liquid cooling to offer an alternative to potential buyers. Honestly speaking, I TD both the motorcycles and I preferred the Speed 400 over the Interceptor. The Interceptor is too heavy and hot for city rides and that's absolutely okay. I would never expect the Speed Twin or W800 to run cool and light in the city.
But given the price position, I personally believe the Interceptor is an absolute steal. It has immense mod potential. When it comes to a single cylinder, it is the Speed 400 for me and when it comes to Twin Cylinder, the Interceptor makes a lot of sense when compared to other modern classics (like Speed Twin or Bonneville)
tempted to sell my beautiful hunter for the triumph just for the suspensions, hearing good things about it, both here and from shumi, yet to take a test ride though.
But the rumbling sound the higher torque, the feel! Is it there in Triumph speed 400???
I´m looking at both for my next bike and with this weight and suspension quality is becoming apparent that my next bike will be the speed 400. I hate heavy engineering, i could forgive some lower quality components in this price point but lazy heavy engineering is terrible, specially in city riding or mountain roads.
same here.
In pure technical terms, both bikes might be similar (0-100, in gear acceleration) but in real life the Inty feels like a charming retro bike which induces the period correct sentiments/feelings with pretty good performance and reliability. Speed 400 is a thorough modern bike wearing retro clothes. That said the Speed might be a better city bike due to its lower weight and compact size.
See it this way, Interceptor does 80% of what a Street/Speed Twin 900 does which means Interceptor is closer to the 900s, rather than the 400s.
The Speed 400 is faster accelerating from standstill & in roll o gears!!.. 😛
@@pravinmurthy Updated my comment! Thanks. What I wanted to say that the Speed 400 might be similar to Interceptor in 0-100 sprint and in gear acceleration but the Interceptor ‘feels’ much more like a retro bike while the Speed is a proper modern bike which is liquid cooled, runs a pretty high compression ratio to eek out highest power from the engine which makes it a high revving bike (more like a BMW G310R) but wearing retro clothes.
So it will be Interceptor for me for the more authentic retro experience.
I have sold my interceptor because of it's weight and quality issues. I am yet to ride Triumph, let's see how it performs.
Is it unreliable and a headache to own?
@@shreyass2447indeed it is weak build quality also the seat is very hard and uncomfortable
@@gasper.valorant are you talking about intercepter or the triumph?
@@shreyass2447 interceptor
Triumph speed 400 onroad -price 2Lakh 82k Mumbai,
RE -Intercetor 650- onroad price 3lakh 75k...
Triumph speed 400 better 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Good Discussion. I put a deposit on a Scrambler 400... I am in Canada we should see those bikes in January.
I’m sure the 400 is a solid contender, but it doesn’t look nearly as classic as the RE. It doesn’t look bad but the RE just nails that classic Brit bike look.
Do comparison between triumph Speed 400 vs dominor 400 vs tvs Apache RTR 310 vs yahama Mt 03
I diffently goes with Triumph but coming to service centre I goes with RE.
How about Harley and Triumph?
High speed stability... windy highways.... overtaking.... it's also making interceptor a sure winner because of it's weight...
High speed stability is better in Triumph due to bigger forks, USD, bigger tyres & perimeter frame!..
I don't think so man. I've done 170 with luggage on the Interceptor on Yamuna expressway, I don't think the Speed 400 can even dream of that.
Make a compression video between triumph speed 400 and Honda CB 300r... love to see that 😊 please reply if anyone see my comment in zigwheels
The fact that the triumph is 250cc down, yet still is considered for this test well, I think that speaks volumes.
At around 8:22 "Not the classic for sure" , what seriously? Who is still gonna prefer classic over speed?? Other than the big bike feel what else does it offer ?
Many will. Not everyone wants to go everywhere quickly. Some people just want to ride. Plus it is just more difficult to service your own bike the more modern it gets. But to each their own, as they say.
I'll choose Int 650.
1. But the bike, and after completing 5k km, or second service, put a pair of good tyres. One problem resolved.
2. Just feel the engine rumbling at 100 - 120 kmph, no other bike can match this within 4 lac budget.
In traffic you can make roti on RE Engine.
I own the hunter 350 & it is the most Shittiest bike if you’re stuck in traffic.
Just drive a RE 2-3 km it will heat up so much you can feel it from 2 feet away
I live in ahmedabad, one of hottest cities in summer, 45c temp. riding INT heats up only in tight traffic, but this is no bike to ride in heavy traffic in first place.
You mention performance differences, but you don't give any numbers. What good is that? If the Triumph is .5 second faster 0 - 100 k , then the claim of being faster has some value. I suspect that given equal rider weight and skill level you will find that the smoother, less busy sounding motorcycle will be faster than it seems and the noisier, slower. I have seen many comparison road tests over the years where the bike that seemed slower was indeed faster. That is why numbers are everything when making that one bike is faster than another. Thanks for the video.
The uppcomming Himalayan 450 vs triumph scrambler400 x will decide who can make better bikes.
There will be also RE 450 scram soon
After owning interceptor for more then 3 years, can i ever go back to 400cc single cylinder bikes? Only reason for that would be only if financially I could not afford it for some reason or some health issues. I went from owning a Unicorn to interceptor. Yamaha fz 250, and duke 390 were the only other 2 bikes, which i seriously considered and duke 390 was first choice. But interceptor was an instant love, first time I rode it. I use almost 2 to 5 times daily for short errands mostly, and like to fire it everytime even after 3 years. For people going up from 150 cc etc, speed 400 is a good upgrade, but might feel a bit boring after a few years. But if i was in the market today looking for an upgrade from unicorn, i would have booked the speed 400, pretty sure. But just dont overlook intercptor, if one has the budget for it, or is okay to go for used one.
I tried riding speed 400. Triumph is a lot of bike for the money. But if you can spend more, Interceptor is much better. It’s smoother, Refined compared to Speed 400. Suspension is better on Speed 400. But smoothness of Interceptor is what makes me enjoy my ride.
Make a video
Gt 650 vs interceptor 650
after watching your videos, I have found that, tyre manufacturers produce different quality tires for different purposes.
Is it too much too ask for a series on tires, manufacturers wise for grip, life, etc etc. It will go on through episodes when manufacturers launch new tires.
the feel your riders/team get from tires is far more important for user than manufactuers literature.
I have been using Ceat for commuter bike, but have not felt confidence while riding.
I want re to make a 170-180 kg bike with the same engine, instant buy.
They can never ever do it with that cow sized engine!
What's a cow engine?!😂
They are coming out with a 125 kg bike with the same engine. It’s coming on 31st feb 2024
@@adityadevsultan4917 I know you think you are joking, but you still have a long way to go before you are funny.
@@needhelp123 think you are already there 😌
Much needed review thanks
Which of these can be the one bike for all, daily riding, high speed riding, low speed relaxed riding, easy to maintain.
Great Video as always! How does it fare when compared against the Honda CB300R and the upcoming Yamaha MT-03? Do you think it is worth waiting for the Yamaha?
It is worth waiting if you are happy to pay 2 times the price..
Both bikes will be better than the Speed 400. They are twins, after all.
Japanese bikes are surely far ahead then Indian or Europeans in terms of reliability quality , and long term cosistency . R15 will run like new for next 15 years but Europeans loose power very quickly and need expensive overhauls
What I want to know is how does the Triumph make you feel. You left us on a cliffhanger about the specialness, but to me personally, that is what matters here.
No bikes today are bad. But when you are spending ₹3 lakh on a bike, it should have some masala. The KTM has a rush. The RE is silky and sounds AMAZING. Is the Triumph just good?
To be veryyy honest with you. I test drove both the bikes very recently.
Booked speed 400 on the launch day. Now I am in crossroads if I am makin the right decision.
I can assure you that the REs refinement on twins is next level. Speed has its own vibrations and all.
“Mann what a bike” - this feeling I got it on GT650 and not on Speed.
On speed, I was like hey it’s good. Bcuz it is made to be like a nice guy who does everything above average.. Not a badass like RE
Speed is a good bike in all aspects...but feels generic. Not a bad thing in itself...but other bikes definitely have more charm.
Think of it like the honda civic of bikes
Hey Jehan and Priyadarshan the question still lurks as to how the after sales service cost for this bike would be, as this is Triumph and they can command a premium from their customers because it's still a triumph so that aspect still remain unanswered so do update on after sales and service front,
Because had a talk with some of those multibrand dealers of Bajaj they were saying that these machines as per demand can be sold through KTM and Huskies shops with Triumph added to their storefront so through this way they're gonna be expanding their dealer network overall,
I like this video😊👍Very nice motorcykle👏
As a daily commuter as an easy to use id recommend the speed 400 anyday. Moreover the quality levels are soooo much higher on the speed that its a joke
But at what cost?
After listening all this what all I can say that royal Enfield not ment for every one
I don't understand how you can compare a twin with a single. Speed 400 will never be smoother than the Inty.
Spec to spec, Speed 400 is 1.1 lakh cheaper than the Interceptor 650 Alloy Wheels variant.
Twin cylinder is worth more 70k , its smoothness is amazing..
Planning to upgrading from my Duke 250 which of these two bikes will be gud suggestion please
Test drive both & decide..
Good! Next obvious comparison video would be Hero Xtreame 125 vs Apache RTR 200. Because somewhere in the past you had compared Apache 200 to Dominar 400! 😶
C’mon guys! There is a 250 CC difference between 400 and 650! Pricing also in different ballparks. Are you out of ideas for the YT videos? 🙄
Who'll buy the 650 now 😂😂only macho types, i guess
Triumph costs 2.88 and interceptor costs more than 4.00 lakhs . Please keep that in consuderation
i'm lucky that I bought INT in 2019 for just 3 lak on road. never imagined such engine at such price.
in few videos of 400 , we can observe the quality of needle in the speedo.. it looks very delicate and not sturdy
I think what they are trying to say and saving it for the next video is that in terms of price to performance and competition triumph Speed 400 is a great bike but it lacks character which Royal Enfield have mastered over the years.
I too for many years was into fast and performance bikes but then resailed that that excitement of owning a bike like Duke 390, Dominor 400 or even Triumph Speed 400 for that matter wont be the same after a month or two. This might not be for every one per say but I would urge anyone one looking into getting a bike above 300cc to do an extensive test ride and focus on how the bike makes you feel.
Interceptor 650 anyday !!
The Speed 400 is a Cheetah!.. The Interceptor.. well a pregnant Tiger 😛
well in a few month I have learned to ride INT like a cheetah. its engine is so capable that shadows all its weight.
@@dhavald4359then Speed 400 will be a rocket in your hands then 🤷♀️
@@pravinmurthy can't handle bit of weight? My man you are stuck riding single cylinder for life.
@@mydroidid218kgs is bit of weight is it!! 😛.. It's a cow size & weight! Sorry no interest to ferry such weight 🙏
Without riding and feeling it, don't comment. It's not the best out there but this price, 650, twin cylinder, i took the bike and it's just the best
It is not original triumph, it is bajaj.. worst quality. Don’t compare with RE guys. It is 176kg weight like normal 150cc vehicle with out any stability. But RE is top
Is there an option to change the tail section of the triumph to something similar to that of a speed twin or the classic Bonneville
This comparison is absurd. Also, I did ride the speed 400 recently, it has alot of vibrations also it's bend pipe's color has started changing already.. I feel there's quality issues with that bike
my god the amount of triggered RE fanbois is fun to see in the comments
the reason is unfair comparison and bias shown in this video. many don' t agree with these two folks.
Triumph 3k rpm in 2nd gear…. Man…. It’s kick ass……
Could you throw some light on spares. Foreign bikes don’t have ready spares.Ask you to wait for a month.
Happened with my Srambler ignition switch failure.
i had taken a test ride of Speed 400, it is fast and light, but by legs was getting fried due to hot air, it was extremly hot
Test ride Interceptor for some more heat & rossting 😛
@@pravinmurthy I did both are the same, but interceptor engine is very smooth
Would chose INT 650 ( i like GT650 more )anyday if budget is not an issue NGL
All bikes are not for racing. In india everyone doing drag race to comparison. High max speeds. These things not matter. Matter is only pricing with torque when go on himalayas, leh ladakh etc where high torque is helpful.
Ceat tyres are pathetic..I got them in my RE classic..small breaking that's it.. It skids a lot and GMG does not have abs which makes it pretty scary to drive in wetty conditions..MRF could have been much better
What about the milage?
Where is the 0 to 100 part?
very close 👌🏻 around 6,5 sec for both ., except acceleration on the same gear at the same speed cos triumph have shorter gearing at 6 gear feg it spin 5500 -5700 rpm at 100 gps vs re like 4300-4400 rpm so triumph have shorter gearing cos have wider peak and overall peak hp at higher rpm so its shorter gearing is must have for such engine charactersitcic add to this 40-45 kg less weight 👌🏻😎 and despite have 35% less max engine torque it can beat re in test like this 👉🏻 the same gear vs the same gear on the same speed acceleration up to some certain speed about what they mention in this test 👌🏻but when you excluding such test regulation and allow both rider go always on optimal gear each like in race it be very close unless huge diffrent in rider weight how much % fuel in tank each have or some misteakes some of rider than one can win with biger diffrenc put on both the same wright rider which do t do some stupid misteakes and it be very close 👌🏻 on paper re have 153 hp/ton with 90 kg rider vs triumph 151 hp/ton so everything be depend on drag drove train losess roll ressit wheell rotational inertia at speed like 145-150+ re 650 shpuld start have advantage thanks of more absolute power what mean more left him for accelerate only inertia when you calculate how much power eat all other ressit epsefially drag 👌🏻 triumph look on eye like it have biger drag its frontal surface area is on eye lil biger but it can be deceptive on eye 😉 anyway to 100 it be very close 👌🏻
i just would get the interceptor for the look and hefty feel.
Any single just can't match the smoothness of a 270 degree parallel twin. And the sound ofcourse
Scrivo dall'Italia, potete dirmi in quanto tempo viene dichiarato lo 0-100 kmh della Triumph Speed 400 e anche della interceptor con le rispettive velocità massima?? Grazie
p.s. mi sembra che la Speed 400 in Europa monterà gomme migliori, anche se il prezzo sarà molto più alto, si dice circa 5500 euro Franco concessionario, quindi quasi 6000 euro.
From experience, don't rely on the interceptor as your only form of transport.
Adil’s boots are looking sick, can some one put a link for those!
Royal enfield came up with new interceptor version but only 2 good changes headlight and alloy wheels....rest all problems still unsolved...footpeg position.....seat not comfy not wide....Front Suspension too soft..they should have given upside down front forks.....matte black engine and silencer has actually Runied the Retro look....chrome finish looks way better on interceptor
"Speed 400 is a bike we will recommend to more people more easily for shure"?! what the hell does that even mean
You never got to the why you said *speedo indicated* 120 kmph at 2:05