HIV Patient Confesses to Mormon Leader | New Amsterdam
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2023
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Season 3, Episode 7, The Legend of Howie Cournemeyer
Max gives care to HIV+ patients but gets backlash in the process. Dr. Frome is hoping to see his friend Dr. Kapoor return to work but later he gets news that Dr. Kapoor has resigned from the Neurological department at New Amsterdam.
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Technically he would’ve been removed from his mission even if he slept with a woman. The Mormon missions have super strict rules and not having sex is a huge one for them.
Yeah, not super realistic. A pair of missionary companions must remain in sight of each other at all times. You’re essentially on the clock 24/7, not even allowed to watch movies really.
Pity. Some of those boys are pretty cute.
Imagine following such strict beliefs then realising that nothing comes after..... but then again, they be dead, they probably won't care at that point
That female Doctor is completely wrong and she knows it. She thinks she has the moral high ground but she's just picking and choosing when to honor the patient's wishes. How that man deals with his sexuality is not her business.
exactly her patient is choosing to stay in the closet no one is forcing him to stay there he wants to be married to a woman let him the female doctor can't force him into coming out of the closet if he doesn't want to
He describes his sexuality as "disgusting urges", he wants them removed, he thinks his entire life is lost because of them even to the point of opposing treatment of his HIV. On a psychological level, his judgement is compromised and his emotional wellbeing in extreme danger.
1. He didn’t refuse treatment, he was just riled up and in denial in the beginning. 2. He thought he lost his dream of being able to father children, that has nothing to do with his orientation. Saying you need to enjoy sex to want kids is like saying you need to enjoy your job in order to want a paycheck. 3. When he asked to take that disgusting stuff out of him, he was talking about curing his HIV. And remember, this is right of the cuff of being told his homosexuality caused him to catch a life threatening disease, which interfered with his ability to work his dream job, ultimately getting him fired, and took away his dream of having a family. If someone who flunked out of school because of ADHD or OCD asked a doctor to get rid of these horrible distracting thoughts, I wouldn’t blame them for asking that at all. Or if a soldier felt so guilty about the blood on his hands that he asked to have his hands amputated. The dude is clearly and understandably distressed, but is fully willing to live with those urges once he finds out there’s still hope.
@@LyingTube you understand we cannot take the position that one should be free to accept and live out their sexuality without external pressure without also accepting the inverse of that position correct? That people should be morally free to reject their sexuality in whatever way they see fit (if that means staying in the closest, remaining chaste or even entering into a "heterosexual" sexual relationship. If our position is one of freedom then we need to accept the consequences of said freedom even when we disagree with it.
@@thomaswalmsley8959 Everyone has bodily autonomy until they become self-destructive, there are and always should be limits.
He’s not going to be happy. You’ll never be happy denying yourself because you believe that part of yourself to be awful. The disgusting part here is a church that’s supposed to be built on love and compassion doesn’t have that compassion for people who are in love in a non heterosexual way. I think what the male doctor did was right for the time but that patient is going to struggle. He’s going to be miserable because a church has told him that his god won’t love him if he’s with a man. In the long run the woman is right. The patient should have found a way through his god to love all parts of himself. Because a god that will only accept half of you or only accept you when you’re not *you* is not a loving god nor a good one. No matter what the issue is.
Many religions don't think of a loving God, or an unconditionally loving God. The Mormon God sees his love as conditional upon his followers keeping his laws.
Many members of this church don't desire happiness, at least not happiness in this life. They want eternal salvation for themselves amd those around them, so they are compelled to act in ways that may seem impossible for the irreligious to understand
How a person chooses to live is that person's choice. He was already in the closet. He didn't want to come out of the closet and if he chooses to live as a straight man, no one has the right to judge him for it.
You didn't hear the part where the bishop - the guy with the grey beard - knew he was gay?
The hospitals job is not to make the patient accept or love himself. That is a psychs job. If his wish is to be medicated and go back to the church then treat him and let him go. I hate that these situations exist but it is not your place as a medical practitioner to put judgement on his personal choices.
He didn’t think to consult psych on the matter, believe me I hate psych but in this case the patient lying to himself and marrying a woman just to please a “god” and group of people that don’t love him for who he truly is and have taught him to feel the same is horribly wrong and he will go on to instill that in more children.
No, you don’t get it. He wanted to marry a wife so that he could have children. You can hate your job and still want a paycheck. And you can love your job and still hate the paperwork that comes with it. In the same way, he can still want to start a family and love his wife, even if he’s not physically attracted to her.
Second, he was fully accepted and loved by his church. Mormonism isn’t like other forms of Christianity. Gay people still go to heaven. In Mormonism, there are different kinds of heavens, and on judgement day you choose the one that suits you best.
One of those heavens is where people who want to dedicate their life to building the kingdom of God go, people like Mother Teresa. In that heaven, you can become a god and help create planets and guide humans to salvation. In Mormonism, gods are biological beings, they can have children. Their job is to raise spirit children and guide them to reach their full potential so that their spirit children can become humans and then eventually enter the type of heaven best suited for them, like God the Father has done for his children on earth. And because a god’s whole job is to have and raise children, only people in heterosexual marriages can become gods and take that job.
That’s the heaven this guy is gunning for, he’s a mother Teresa type. If he wanted to go to a different heaven that was less demanding, then that would be alright, people would still accept him. But that’s not what he wants, he wants to become a god, and so that requires him to become the kind of person who is able to live that high demand lifestyle happily, otherwise he’d be uncomfortable and miserable in that heaven and would choose a different one instead.
Oh, and by the way, you lose God and the cornerstone of your life - the LDS. Research the LDS - it is not Christianity. Their Jesus and their God are not the God of the bible. It's a religion made up by a guy named Joseph Smith for two purposes: access to lots of women, and lots of power.
Who cares? It’s their religion, they don’t have to be accepting.
Even if the strict Religion turns away from a person in need, God loves this man for himself, unlike Religious leaders.
4:40 is that Epic on the screen? Lol
Yea there great on judgement..not there to help
It is his choice. I'm gay I made the CHOICE to accept who I am as well as what I am. The choice was mine to make. I did not choose to be gay I made the choice to accept it.
And what is the alternative exactly? Live a lie and pretend that you're not gay your whole life? That's what God wants for you? Seems cruel that he would make you gay just to force you to deny it your whole life; and if you fail, punishment for eternity. Very "loving" of him to force such an unfair challenge on gay people specifically, with the ultimate stakes too.
@@freepimaths9698Live a life in which you can inherit the kingdom of God.
I'm sorry for asking this because i'm not so fluent in english language. you are gay and u made a CHOICE to accept who u are, u also made a choice for what u are. The choice are yours to make. But u do not choose to be gay? u just choose to accept it. Who exactly made the choice for u to be gay?? I'm in a loss here.
@@wantan3_6_0 In English, anyone who finds members of the same sex attractive is considered “gay.” And it’s considered an innate unchangeable part of your identity, the same way a person with dark skin is considered “black.” English lacks the nuance of people identifying separately from their emotions. So Americans view the guy in the video deciding to have biological children, as no different than him deciding that he is not black. This is actually a very modern idea. For most of human history, “gay/straight” wasn’t part of who you were, gay/straight sex was just a thing people did.
You do you ok God does not hate anyone let me go head and say that, ok as a Christian I do not support gay but support and hate are different thing and I do not hate the gay community and I will not judge anyone on for anything God loves every one but he does not support sin and sin is sin no sins is worse than another sin so in God eyes sins are sins he doesn't hate anyone for sin because we are human and because Adam and Eve ate the fruit we are all sinful even Christians the only thing Christians do that every one can do is pray and ask for forgiveness its but never to late
Bruh, the female doctor belittling this guy giving his patient the best care available and giving him the ability to father his own children and maintain his faith. And all because she thinks he’s lying to himself because he thinks there are things more important in life than getting a boner.
Love is bigger than sex you know. Plenty of gay people choose to have straight relationships because they care about the biological bond of having children that reflect the love between the parents moreso than they care about the pleasure of the sex. That’s their choice, it’s what they want, we’re more than just our appetites. Just like how many people who love eating meat choose to become vegan for health or moral reasons.
I wonder if she would say the same thing if this guy was a Tibetan monk who had taken a vow of celibacy or silence. Or a Muslim even. Something tells me they made that character Mormon because they’re not considered a protected minority by the left, and are free game to criticize.
@@TerryHalljr-du5dh …nice to meet you too I guess.
I agree about the Mormon minority criticism.
He could adopt children or even have a child through a surrogate he doesn’t have to lie about who he is just because “god” and those people won’t except him.
@@amandajackson668 He’s not lying. It’s totally normal to want biological children, it’s hardwired into our DNA to want that. You’re the one putting him in a box by saying he has to live a gay lifestyle just because he finds men attractive.
And what do you mean they won’t accept him? Even in this clip he’s openly being accepted. He’s just pursuing what he wants in life: his religious beliefs and family values, over his carnal desires. That’s what everyone does literally every day they decide to not dump $200 on junk food, or not cheat on their partner. You’re the one saying that this guy’s choice of lifestyle is invalid because of the circumstances of his birth and your personal opinion on what gays and Mormons must be like.
“Pleasure of sex”
F you. Being gay isn’t just sex. It’s love. When you deny yourself the ability to connect with someone because you are told you can’t due to their gender, you are robbing yourself of the possibility of a life long partner to share something special with.
And Christians talk so highly about the love of husband and wife, but all of a sudden it’s not important if that happens to be husband/husband or wife/wife.
Because love is important. Husbands and wives get old and eventually sex isn’t even an option, and sometimes sex stops being an option earlier in marriage but their love is real because love is not just sex.
And THAT APPLIES TO LGBT COUPLES TOO MORON.
Anything huh smh
So they decide to do a show on Mormons and they use a Black actor? Can he get into Mormon heaven?
6% of Mormons are black worldwide. They do proselytize in Africa, especially West Africa which is where I’d assume this patient is from based on the accent. He probably came to the US on a mission trip. They can get into Mormon heaven.
My question exactly.
Blacks can enter priesthood and heaven since mid 1960s when they "got a new revelation" from God.
Levitcus is mistranslated! Its been horribly mistranslated!
Homosexuality is a sin
Or a christian
Black Mormons? ….don’t they go to a different heaven?!
Is he a morman or a catholic
Mormon, they have strict rules
Wow another liar
wtf you on about?!
This is not how the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints roles. We are not some homophobic cult. It hurts that the church I belong to is so wrongly represented in the media today. We may not agree with the concept of homosexuality, but we believe in free will. If a person is gay, but still has a testimony of Christ and his love for them, they will make their own choices. We don't force anybody to do anything.
Faith in a mythological god is so stupid. Almost got the man killed. Let the man die for his stupidity.
I swear, believing and following the rules set by mythology is so stupid.
I'm fully agree with ED Doctor Lauren Bloom. Nothing sick or disgusting about being Gay. Refusing to accept being Gay in the name of mythology is stupid. And yes, I am saying that Religion and Mythology are the same thing. Because they are.
It’s stupid to you, but you should respect their beliefs like you respect LGBTQ.
@@Sniperboy5551 I don't have to respect anything. Certainly not someone who believes in a mythology. My thoughts are my own. It's called free will.
Ok redditor
@@uggupuggu Say what you will, but you know I'm right. Mythology gets in the way of so many advancements like Science and Technology. It should have no bearing on how society progresses or how one lives life.
1st Corinthians 6 verse 9 the unrightous shall not inherit the kingdom of God
Willing to elaborate? I take it you’re Protestant, yes? I’m interested in your take on this clip. Penny for your thoughts?
Ephesians 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Romans 3:24-26: “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”
@@TheCrankSpiderNinja I’m a priest, I know what the scriptures say, I was asking what he was trying to get across within the context of this clip by quoting them.
@@KnuttyEntertainment i was trying to tell HIM those verses
@@TheCrankSpiderNinja Ah, I see. I misunderstood. Though now I’m curious, what are your thoughts on the clip?