Akira Kurosawas Fight Choreographer was Yoshio Sugino. Master of Tenshin Shôden Katori Shintô-ryû and father of my teacher Yukihiro Sugino. Great that you love his work :)
Apparently it was an effects error and was meant to produce a much smaller splash of blood, but Kurosawa decided to keep it in because he liked the effect.
That blood spurt is totally realistic to be honest. If you got cut by a katana that IS how you bleed. You can't compare a cut from a katana with a cut or maybe better to say strike from any 10+ Lbs blunt european swords :) So yeah that blood spurt is very realistic
sonofsueraf One od the actor there, Tadeusz Łomnicki, was a genius in saber combat, he won the duel with his instructor. And after watching many videos about saber combat I think it's very realistic but slow
The final fight in Kill Bill! The one where Bill gets killed. Extremely entertaining with clever use of the props, not to mention the perfect, short duration. Not necessarily the most realistic fight scene, but one of the best in terms of storytelling.
One of my favorite swordfight scenes is the Fight on Ganryujima between Miyamoto Musashi and Sasaki Kojiro . Two friends who came to become enemies duel to the death on a beach on Ganryu Island . Sasaki Kojiro weilded a Katana of particularly long and straight construction , known as " The Drying Pole " He was immaculately dressed and groomed and took to the assigned place of duel early . Musashi spent the night before drinking in a pub . He awoke late then hired a boat to take him to the beach . He had no sword , so he used his knife to carve an oar into a sword shaped staff . Upon their meeting Sasaki asked " Do you think you can defeat me with that shabby stick ? " I saw this film on Japanese television in the early 90s while stationed there in the US Navy . Search for it on RUclips .
Could you imagine getting your blood taken in the world of a Kurosawa film? Any trainee nurse would get blasted through a wall if they fucked it up, be a real strain on the NHS having to pay for all that renovation.
You may not know this movie, but there's a really decent duel in "Potop". It's Polish and they use the polish sabres pretty accurately. The duel starts at around 3:30 ruclips.net/video/r-mnfJvSDkU/видео.html
Here is Part 1 in Polish only. There WAS a video with English subtitles somewhere out there, but I can't find it :( ruclips.net/video/JjdAPnEI_T4/видео.html Just a bit of warning, the film is 5 hours long. It doesn't feel that long, because in my opinion it's masterfully made, but it's still gigantic.
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Not so much a sword fight as "Fancy twirl, fancy twirl *BANG!* " But I always think to myself, "Yeah, that'd do it." haha. :-)
So, I just watched Yojimbo and felt like watching some of your videos afterwards for obvious reasons, I guess. Then I ended up here and now I'm both confused and happy. Thumbs up for Akira Kurosawa and you. :)
My favorite sword fighting scene is from the movie Ame Agaru (After the Rain). There's a really enjoyable scene in the courtyard where wooden swords are used-the main character is vying for the master-of-arms position. You really feel the tension and see the technique, and nothing is telegraphed, everything is done because the people watch each other.
Pretty good list. I think Rob Roy may be the most "realistic" outside of the Kurosawa films. The fights in those films were done by master swordsmen. They both have the advantage of being choreographed by people who were world renowned in the use of the arms portrayed, katana and backsword/ smallsword. The Duelist was choreographed by William Hobbs, the same guy who did the fights in Rob Roy, but he admitted he wanted it to be more dramatic than real. In both movies I think he captures the "story" of the characters very well, but in Rob Roy being an actual practitioner of back sword, I think he captures it better than in the Duelist. Actually, everyone likes the final fight in the Duelist, but I think the best one in the movie is the second fight, or the first fight between the main characters, after the first duel.
Guys, i just rediscovered the sword manual used for most movies! Look up "muye dobo tongji" is a korean "book" about swords and spears, gas a section on 2 swords, a section on GIANT swords, a few sections ond weird polearms and all of them include spinning... In fact, there is a demostration of those "skills" in youtube that literally looks like "the witcher 3" fighting style...
My ex kendo club organized 4 movie nights to raise money for a latin american tournament. 1 of the movies was your number 1. I dont know if other 3 were from the same director, but it was a lovely coincidence. Keep up your videos and gags mate!
About Rob Roy´s duel: I just started being a fencer in the cateran society but know a few fencing basics and I can agree. One can clearly see some roots but in general it´s a very good choreography of stage fencing. Some of the basics cuts are missing but ne can see different guards like the St. Georges guard. And for showing a real duel it shows the more exhausted MacGregor gets the sloppier are his movements, which I think is a very realistic presentation. About Macbeth: Hmm, I didn´t enjoy this one so much. It surely was intense but less focus on the fencing skills of the actors. About Princess Bride: Never seen it. Can´t say much about it. The Duellists: Great movie and great fencing skills. The style ist mostly bound down to regimental sabre fencing from british and french sources. Alfred Hutton is an interesting person when it comes to fencing and sources in these times since he tried to introduce real swordplays to stage compatible fencing moves. Kurosawas: Toshiro Mifune ftw Bro ;-)
It's the first time I've seen any HEMA RUclipsr talk about Kurzel's Macbeth, which is a shame, 'cause I think it is heavily underrated and has some interesting fighting scenes.
Especially if Kurosawa teams up with Toshiro Mifune (they did Yojimbo among many others). In some movie's you get to see the difference between some peasant or bandit that just has a sword. In Zatoichi meets Yojimbo is a scene with an all-out gang war were Mifune as Yojimbo just walks through the chaos, dispatching any fool that crosses his way. And I mean dispatches, it's nothing more than that. Just as if he swats a fly and does not even look at his hand or the fly. I think this way of showing how skilled a fighter is in movies is not used often enough..
Check out James "Bam Bam" Bamford. Pretty good fight choreographer, taught Jason Momoa most of what he knows, has fought with the Battle of the Nations.
The stuff you say from about 5:20 is exactly what I was going for with my "enhanced realism" fight choreography. Very rapid exchanges, first opening results in a disabling blow, downed opponent goes into "gore SFX and suffering" mode, and the winning fighter looks for his next choreographed partner, who is probably finishing up their own fight. At one point I used my props-master skills to make an extremely realistic looking ball-and-chain flail that was pretty much 100% impact safe boffer technology hiding under fancy clothes, I carried it in my belt for battle choreography after arraigning to '"lose" my longsword in a corpse in my second or third choreographed fight, so I could take up targe and flail and start rather brutally killing off fighters who'd finished their set choreography, but couldn't manage to remember new sets in the time we had, or to excuse triggering of some of the more over the top SFX, like popping out an eyeball with head strike... No way I'd have ever tried that with a dangerous weight real weapon.
at first I thought that Brian Danna had kidnapped you, but I was wrong... IT WAS NINJA EUGENE! YOU PRAISED A JAPANESE MOVIE, I TMUST HAVE BEING NINJA EUGENE'S ORDERS! jokes aside, yeah, I saw the 7 samurais, and I liked it, Yojimbo is in my "to watch list" already. I didn't liked that other one about the rape though (forgot the name, it's about 3 men discussing about the execution of a raper and what really happened)
NEITHER BRIAN DANNER NOR HIS MASTER NINJA EUGENE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CAPTURE OF SWORD LOVER -KNIGHTSQUIRE- ME. PLEASE AVOID THESE FALSE ACCUSATIONS. -THEY WANT ME- I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT I AM VERY VERY SAFE. AND THAT SPINNING IN SWORD FIGHTS IS GREAT. THANK YOU.
IN the Princess Bride What they are saying is accurate. The moves they are perfomring are not, but it is basically stage combat taken to the highest degree. They never really lunge or get close to eachother and are using sabre fencing positions. In short nothing like realy rapier fencing.
haha i just commented most of these on your other video. basil rathbone and tyrone power in zorro, both actual fencing experts. and its not the greatest, but i like the visceral savegry of mad martigan vs kale in willow.
As others have said, the rapier fighting in The Princess Bride is not very realistic. Lots of swinging and clashing, almost no thrusting, which is the main component of rapier fencing. They quote names of masters like Capo Ferro and Thibault, but don't actually use their techniques. That said, the scene conveys the sense of the fight very well, and definitely isn't bad. As for Rob Roy, it's generally pretty good, and shows the difference between the two swords quite well, in the speed of the smallsword and the power of the broadsword. That said, Neeson's movements tend to be over exaggerated for dramatic effect - the broadsword is heavier than the smallsword, yes, but most of the motions are still from the elbow or wrist, not the shoulder. Meanwhile, Roth cuts too much with his smallsword, which is almost exclusively a thrusting weapon. On the whole though, much like The Princess Bride, it still manages to convey the right sense for the fight, even if the accuracy is lacking.
I agree with you, on the fight from Rob Roy, but have to point out that Roth's character doesn't use a small sword, but rather what I think is a spadroon.
I know that it sounds ridiculous, but see the fight of the Black Knight vs the Green Knight ( before the fight with Arthur ), from Monty Pythonand the Holy Graal ( yeah, i'm serious ). It's actually not that bad...except from the end and the subsequent fight.
I love that movie and love how the fight between Arthur and the black knight almost seems to poke fun at crappy movie fights. I can't remember a thing about the fight before it though, I'll have to give it another watch. :D
Overall a neat video but I'm a bit disappointed that you included fights because "others said so". I'd like a list with choices based only on your opinion.
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Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, I never see people include this one in their top list. It's amazingly choreographed, using real techniques from Jianshu (sword kungfu) spiced with a little magic (superhuman strength and an unbreakable sword) admittedly there is a lot of turning in it, but they somehow made it work... ruclips.net/video/YhCHw0Ovqf4/видео.html
I don't think the Princess Bride's fight is that good. I have been studying Destreza (Spannish rapier) for a year and just took up (3 months ago) Capo Ferro (Italian rapier). Both fencing styles focus primaly on the thrust - which is the point of the rapier (yes, pun intended :D ). In the PB there are a lot of cutting. I don't say that you cannot cut with a rapier, but it is designed to thrust. So your primary objective would be that. Also it is quite easy to stab someone with a blade like that. The difficult part is to avoid getting hit simultaneously. Having said that, most rapier duels were over in less than 10 seconds, and in a huge percentage both combatants died - one at the duel, and the other a few weeks later from infections. However. I do realize that this is a movie, and it is for entertainment purposes, and the PB fight is excellent in that. It tells a story, we get to know about the characters, and it is visually pleasing. But I would still not include it in this list, I would switch it to one from GoT, maybe Bronn vs. ser Vardis.
as it has been pointed out before, rob roy/neesan's movements are way too overly choreographed, their is a couple moments where his back is exposed cuz the other guy moves behind him something a swordsman should NEVER allow, facing an opponent is like the first thing you learn in martial arts, always keep a beed on them, second is princess bride i love the film, i love the acting and i love the fencing, BUT BUT, it's called flynning, based on Errol Flynn , who popularized that really fancy swiping fencing fighting, as for Kurosawa, i have NOTHING but respect for him and his movies, their amazing and wonderful, but the swordsmanship in samurai films, fall to the same hollywoodish concepts as westerns and martial arts movies, one to three enemies, MIGHT be doable, but at five enemies the common idea was to run away, if they give chase, fight them, one at a time!, here's a decent idea of what Japanese swordsmanship is like ruclips.net/video/RvgxD3O-OPI/видео.html although i do think these re better examples of good sword choreography, the thing to remember, is that the majority of watchers are not gonna be sword experts, or hema practitioners, their gonna be people who while they may know it's fake, love the power trip fantasy of being that "lone warrior fighting a thousand soldiers" thing, like in dynasty and samurai warriors, it's ridiculous, yes, but it's SO MUCH FUN, so great vid dude, but still, most of these are still fictional, but that's ok, cuz it's fun
Sadly, no bro, non of em look good, not even the rapier/ shortsword ones. I've practiced it myself, and no. Pretty crappy. But nice try, actually XD. Just so you know how crappy they were, it's like Helen of Troy: Rapier version. Perhaps we will have some cool stuff in the future. Love yer commentary, pretty funny and your disappointment is adequate : )
This may seem an odd choice, but Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had what to me, looked like a fairly realistically choreographed fight between Louis Steven and the Crazy Russian chick. Granted, the setting was really weird, (I don't think sword fighting from atop 2 separate and fast moving vehicles is the best idea) but there was no spinning, and no major telegraphing, and overall wasn't over the top. Doesn't excuse the fucking aliens at the end of the movie, but its something
As well, these aren’t the “best” sword fights, they’re ones you like that have realism, the cinematic value and emotion behind some of these scenes have been greatly outmatched by some of the “spinny” swordfights in other films
I dunno, it's one of the few scenes where the characters' armour has a big effect on the fight. They don't really fight the way you would in armour, but it's still a cut above the average for that IMO
the blood spurt in SAnjuro was an accident. The guy incharge of that effect thought he was going to get fired. But kurosawa said it was fine.
Gudkarma So he's a genius and he's not an ass. Nice.
Turned out well.
HAHA, did they not shoot it again? I suppose he must have liked it, or he ran out of fake blood in that one take.
ONE TAKE.
Akira Kurosawas Fight Choreographer was Yoshio Sugino. Master of Tenshin Shôden Katori Shintô-ryû and father of my teacher Yukihiro Sugino. Great that you love his work :)
Plus Toshiro Mifune in most of the fights. Don't forget him, one of the top of all time actors.
where is the black knight fight from The Monty Python and Holy Grail?
Guy: How do we simulate blood?
Producer: FIRE HOSE!!
Apparently it was an effects error and was meant to produce a much smaller splash of blood, but Kurosawa decided to keep it in because he liked the effect.
It was purely accidental. But Kurosawa decided to keep it anyway. Because ONE TAKE.
And this is how the genre of Splatter movies was born.
Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! *dramatic music*, i love it, makes me laugh everytime
I should make it my text ringtone.
What are the origins of that scene/music?
dat blood spurt haha, not seen that one.
It's from Kurosawa's film "Sanjuro".
This scene invented splatter movies by accident. The blood tube had a defect, but Kurosawa loved the result.
That blood spurt is totally realistic to be honest. If you got cut by a katana that IS how you bleed. You can't compare a cut from a katana with a cut or maybe better to say strike from any 10+ Lbs blunt european swords :)
So yeah that blood spurt is very realistic
Reddokk Fheg
Stop posting untrue bullshit and learn about actual historic swords.
Edit: Totally forgot under which video I was responding.
Super realistic! The katana has the power to make you bleed blood you never even had. XD
will "the deluge" saber fight count as realistic? I was actually impressed by it.
A saber duel and no one is bleeding within 20 strikes?
sonofsueraf One od the actor there, Tadeusz Łomnicki, was a genius in saber combat, he won the duel with his instructor. And after watching many videos about saber combat I think it's very realistic but slow
Well, this duell was real-made.
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The final fight in Kill Bill! The one where Bill gets killed. Extremely entertaining with clever use of the props, not to mention the perfect, short duration. Not necessarily the most realistic fight scene, but one of the best in terms of storytelling.
I agree, really enjoyed that one. I didn't include it for lack of much actual sword fighting. Great scene.
The Duelist. I just watched that the other day. Great movie.
One of my favorite swordfight scenes is the Fight on Ganryujima between Miyamoto Musashi and Sasaki Kojiro . Two friends who came to become enemies duel to the death on a beach on Ganryu Island . Sasaki Kojiro weilded a Katana of particularly long and straight construction , known as " The Drying Pole " He was immaculately dressed and groomed and took to the assigned place of duel early . Musashi spent the night before drinking in a pub . He awoke late then hired a boat to take him to the beach . He had no sword , so he used his knife to carve an oar into a sword shaped staff . Upon their meeting Sasaki asked " Do you think you can defeat me with that shabby stick ? " I saw this film on Japanese television in the early 90s while stationed there in the US Navy . Search for it on RUclips .
Could you imagine getting your blood taken in the world of a Kurosawa film?
Any trainee nurse would get blasted through a wall if they fucked it up, be a real strain on the NHS having to pay for all that renovation.
HAHAHAHA! GENIUS!!
I imagine that's what a vampire's diarrhea would look like.
You may not know this movie, but there's a really decent duel in "Potop". It's Polish and they use the polish sabres pretty accurately. The duel starts at around 3:30 ruclips.net/video/r-mnfJvSDkU/видео.html
Best one ! no.1 imo
Just watched the clip....again. Yeah; that's a great one. I wish I could find the movie.
Here is Part 1 in Polish only. There WAS a video with English subtitles somewhere out there, but I can't find it :( ruclips.net/video/JjdAPnEI_T4/видео.html Just a bit of warning, the film is 5 hours long. It doesn't feel that long, because in my opinion it's masterfully made, but it's still gigantic.
that intro was a 100 out of 10! Praise Kek!
The Three and Four Muskeeters flilms from the 1970s by Richard Lester had great, underrated sword fights
I'm happy to see someone has recognized brian danner's work. Sword master extraordinaire!!!!
What's with "the king" from Netflix?
nice!!! great video!!
love your channel..
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Not so much a sword fight as "Fancy twirl, fancy twirl *BANG!* " But I always think to myself, "Yeah, that'd do it." haha. :-)
So, I just watched Yojimbo and felt like watching some of your videos afterwards for obvious reasons, I guess. Then I ended up here and now I'm both confused and happy. Thumbs up for Akira Kurosawa and you. :)
The fight in Rob Roy is the Scottish broad sword vs small rapier thing
I keep rewatching this for the Hawk the Slayer Transition.
best sword fight in the 30's & 40's movies
I recently watched a Jackie chan film called "dragon blade". some very nice sword fights in it
My favorite sword fighting scene is from the movie Ame Agaru (After the Rain). There's a really enjoyable scene in the courtyard where wooden swords are used-the main character is vying for the master-of-arms position. You really feel the tension and see the technique, and nothing is telegraphed, everything is done because the people watch each other.
I think the training scene from The Last Samurai is pretty awesome too.
Did you just enjoy watching Tom cruise being beaten with a bokuto? XD
i love your videos
there hilarious
Thanks man, I'm glad you enjoy em.
Pretty good list. I think Rob Roy may be the most "realistic" outside of the Kurosawa films. The fights in those films were done by master swordsmen. They both have the advantage of being choreographed by people who were world renowned in the use of the arms portrayed, katana and backsword/ smallsword. The Duelist was choreographed by William Hobbs, the same guy who did the fights in Rob Roy, but he admitted he wanted it to be more dramatic than real. In both movies I think he captures the "story" of the characters very well, but in Rob Roy being an actual practitioner of back sword, I think he captures it better than in the Duelist. Actually, everyone likes the final fight in the Duelist, but I think the best one in the movie is the second fight, or the first fight between the main characters, after the first duel.
that wouldn't be my pick from the due list, would have to be the sabre duel in the wine cellar. that scene was fantastic.
Guys, i just rediscovered the sword manual used for most movies!
Look up "muye dobo tongji" is a korean "book" about swords and spears, gas a section on 2 swords, a section on GIANT swords, a few sections ond weird polearms and all of them include spinning... In fact, there is a demostration of those "skills" in youtube that literally looks like "the witcher 3" fighting style...
My ex kendo club organized 4 movie nights to raise money for a latin american tournament. 1 of the movies was your number 1. I dont know if other 3 were from the same director, but it was a lovely coincidence. Keep up your videos and gags mate!
He did a few Samurai movies, Sanjuro and Seven Samurai are another 2 of his greats that you probably saw.
The Count of Monte Cristo had a great one
Best swords fights ever are in Ridley Scott's The Duelists!
I know that in the princess bride that the actors quoted several italian rapier it's during the fight such a Morozo.
About Rob Roy´s duel:
I just started being a fencer in the cateran society but know a few fencing basics and I can agree. One can clearly see some roots but in general it´s a very good choreography of stage fencing. Some of the basics cuts are missing but ne can see different guards like the St. Georges guard. And for showing a real duel it shows the more exhausted MacGregor gets the sloppier are his movements, which I think is a very realistic presentation.
About Macbeth:
Hmm, I didn´t enjoy this one so much. It surely was intense but less focus on the fencing skills of the actors.
About Princess Bride:
Never seen it. Can´t say much about it.
The Duellists:
Great movie and great fencing skills. The style ist mostly bound down to regimental sabre fencing from british and french sources. Alfred Hutton is an interesting person when it comes to fencing and sources in these times since he tried to introduce real swordplays to stage compatible fencing moves.
Kurosawas:
Toshiro Mifune ftw Bro ;-)
@KnightSquire have you ever seen the entirety of crouching tiger, hidden dragon?
It's the first time I've seen any HEMA RUclipsr talk about Kurzel's Macbeth, which is a shame, 'cause I think it is heavily underrated and has some interesting fighting scenes.
You seem not to know well the sword fights after middle age but I think that those in Captain Alatriste are pretty real.
Especially if Kurosawa teams up with Toshiro Mifune (they did Yojimbo among many others). In some movie's you get to see the difference between some peasant or bandit that just has a sword. In Zatoichi meets Yojimbo is a scene with an all-out gang war were Mifune as Yojimbo just walks through the chaos, dispatching any fool that crosses his way. And I mean dispatches, it's nothing more than that. Just as if he swats a fly and does not even look at his hand or the fly.
I think this way of showing how skilled a fighter is in movies is not used often enough..
Is that all there is? The duelist was fun and Kurosawa with his saber westerns too
about number 1: that-s how kenjutsu should be portrayed in movies.
The sword fight in Blade is pretty good unlike the movie itself. You should watch that scene
Check out James "Bam Bam" Bamford. Pretty good fight choreographer, taught Jason Momoa most of what he knows, has fought with the Battle of the Nations.
The stuff you say from about 5:20 is exactly what I was going for with my "enhanced realism" fight choreography. Very rapid exchanges, first opening results in a disabling blow, downed opponent goes into "gore SFX and suffering" mode, and the winning fighter looks for his next choreographed partner, who is probably finishing up their own fight. At one point I used my props-master skills to make an extremely realistic looking ball-and-chain flail that was pretty much 100% impact safe boffer technology hiding under fancy clothes, I carried it in my belt for battle choreography after arraigning to '"lose" my longsword in a corpse in my second or third choreographed fight, so I could take up targe and flail and start rather brutally killing off fighters who'd finished their set choreography, but couldn't manage to remember new sets in the time we had, or to excuse triggering of some of the more over the top SFX, like popping out an eyeball with head strike... No way I'd have ever tried that with a dangerous weight real weapon.
If you want to really be entertained by a sword fight check out Tyrone Powers and Basil Rathbone in Mark of Zorro.
can do more best sword fights in films and shorts
at first I thought that Brian Danna had kidnapped you, but I was wrong... IT WAS NINJA EUGENE! YOU PRAISED A JAPANESE MOVIE, I TMUST HAVE BEING NINJA EUGENE'S ORDERS!
jokes aside, yeah, I saw the 7 samurais, and I liked it, Yojimbo is in my "to watch list" already. I didn't liked that other one about the rape though (forgot the name, it's about 3 men discussing about the execution of a raper and what really happened)
Marcelo Silveira and he made it look like it was Danna, such a mastermind ninja sensei!
NEITHER BRIAN DANNER NOR
HIS MASTER NINJA
EUGENE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CAPTURE OF SWORD
LOVER -KNIGHTSQUIRE- ME.
PLEASE AVOID THESE FALSE ACCUSATIONS.
-THEY WANT ME- I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT I AM VERY VERY SAFE.
AND THAT SPINNING IN SWORD FIGHTS IS GREAT.
THANK YOU.
Ninja Eugene is probably incapable of differentiating a Kurosawa film from a Naruto episode anyway.
My favorite sword fight scene has to be from Die Another Day!
I bet Ninja Eugene feels plenty validated now.
My favorite is Kyuzo's duel from The Seven Samurai.
Can we get a video on Warhammer Fantasy, and or Warhammer 40k? Also do you play any of them?
@KnightSquire what about the sword fighting in a Knight Tale? Curious if that's accurate.
Deluge saber duel! Best shit ever!
IN the Princess Bride What they are saying is accurate. The moves they are perfomring are not, but it is basically stage combat taken to the highest degree. They never really lunge or get close to eachother and are using sabre fencing positions. In short nothing like realy rapier fencing.
Oh really, good to know, thanks. :)
I've actually done a review of Princess bride and the duelist fight on my channel
Just checked it out, great stuff man. :D
haha i just commented most of these on your other video. basil rathbone and tyrone power in zorro, both actual fencing experts. and its not the greatest, but i like the visceral savegry of mad martigan vs kale in willow.
I saw that, weird coincidence. XD
I haven't seen Willow or Zorro but I'll check em out.
How many sword fights have you been in?
As others have said, the rapier fighting in The Princess Bride is not very realistic. Lots of swinging and clashing, almost no thrusting, which is the main component of rapier fencing. They quote names of masters like Capo Ferro and Thibault, but don't actually use their techniques. That said, the scene conveys the sense of the fight very well, and definitely isn't bad.
As for Rob Roy, it's generally pretty good, and shows the difference between the two swords quite well, in the speed of the smallsword and the power of the broadsword. That said, Neeson's movements tend to be over exaggerated for dramatic effect - the broadsword is heavier than the smallsword, yes, but most of the motions are still from the elbow or wrist, not the shoulder. Meanwhile, Roth cuts too much with his smallsword, which is almost exclusively a thrusting weapon. On the whole though, much like The Princess Bride, it still manages to convey the right sense for the fight, even if the accuracy is lacking.
If you ask me, the fight in the princess bride is total rubbish. Reason's being what you said as well as more.
I agree with you, on the fight from Rob Roy, but have to point out that Roth's character doesn't use a small sword, but rather what I think is a spadroon.
I know that it sounds ridiculous, but see the fight of the Black Knight vs the Green Knight ( before the fight with Arthur ), from Monty Pythonand the Holy Graal ( yeah, i'm serious ). It's actually not that bad...except from the end and the subsequent fight.
I love that movie and love how the fight between Arthur and the black knight almost seems to poke fun at crappy movie fights. I can't remember a thing about the fight before it though, I'll have to give it another watch. :D
Do a list on best sword fighting in games (the gamer has to play it and for it not to be a cut scene
Why does Knight Squire look like Pew Die Pies cousin?
I wish I was, that would surely help assist the weight of my wallet.
WHAT? The best sword fight ever was King Arthur vs the Black Knight!
Have you never seen lone wolf and cub.
Overall a neat video but I'm a bit disappointed that you included fights because "others said so". I'd like a list with choices based only on your opinion.
Hope you get out of that cage soon Squire.
Rob Roy final sword fight was my favorite when I was a child.
I meant to check out Alatriste actually, always looked pretty good... sword fight wise at least.
Awesome movie. The fencing in it is great and the music is quite good too
It is very dramatic. I didn't like atheist aspect though, but it is just my personal ideology there.
uploading a video at almost 4am?
I know man... 4:30 here but I was desperate to finally get this one finished. :)
you know you could have planned a release time right ? :D Not that I complain. Perfect timing for insomnia
What can he say? Brian Danner had him occupied.
It's not a bad time in this part of the world.
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Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, I never see people include this one in their top list. It's amazingly choreographed, using real techniques from Jianshu (sword kungfu) spiced with a little magic (superhuman strength and an unbreakable sword)
admittedly there is a lot of turning in it, but they somehow made it work...
ruclips.net/video/YhCHw0Ovqf4/видео.html
Number 2 or number 1 would be Hector vs Achilles in Troy.
That was a pretty decent fight, but nothing in the movie was "accurate" to the period. It was basically a fantasy version of Homer.
Arioch IV yeah, they kinda went nuts with the accuracy...... but dose moves *-*
You know nothing John Snow... There are tons of french movies with superb rapier fencing.
v ant *Jon.
I rarely watch French cinema to be honest. :)
lmfao I just rented yojimbo from the library today xD #AkiraAllTheWay
The princess bride before rob roy? Oh c'mon...
Kurosawa Akira
Twilight Samurai?
heck even Last SAmurai?
I don't think the Princess Bride's fight is that good. I have been studying Destreza (Spannish rapier) for a year and just took up (3 months ago) Capo Ferro (Italian rapier).
Both fencing styles focus primaly on the thrust - which is the point of the rapier (yes, pun intended :D ).
In the PB there are a lot of cutting. I don't say that you cannot cut with a rapier, but it is designed to thrust. So your primary objective would be that. Also it is quite easy to stab someone with a blade like that. The difficult part is to avoid getting hit simultaneously. Having said that, most rapier duels were over in less than 10 seconds, and in a huge percentage both combatants died - one at the duel, and the other a few weeks later from infections.
However. I do realize that this is a movie, and it is for entertainment purposes, and the PB fight is excellent in that. It tells a story, we get to know about the characters, and it is visually pleasing. But I would still not include it in this list, I would switch it to one from GoT, maybe Bronn vs. ser Vardis.
hahaha look at that lot of blood..
AHHHHHHHHH!
Are you sure everything is okay?
YAAAAAAA! *Ping*
Alatriste!!!!!
How could you not put Tyrone Power and Basil Rathbone from Zorro in the top 5 list?
lol. better watch and read something about this:
*THE DELUGE*
You obviously didn't see this fight ruclips.net/video/r-mnfJvSDkU/видео.html
Fight starts at 3:55.
KnightSquire Did you mispronounce "mispronunciation" on purpose? I do the same thing, but if you didn't, just wanted to point out the irony.
as it has been pointed out before, rob roy/neesan's movements are way too overly choreographed, their is a couple moments where his back is exposed cuz the other guy moves behind him something a swordsman should NEVER allow, facing an opponent is like the first thing you learn in martial arts, always keep a beed on them, second is princess bride i love the film, i love the acting and i love the fencing, BUT BUT, it's called flynning, based on Errol Flynn , who popularized that really fancy swiping fencing fighting, as for Kurosawa, i have NOTHING but respect for him and his movies, their amazing and wonderful, but the swordsmanship in samurai films, fall to the same hollywoodish concepts as westerns and martial arts movies, one to three enemies, MIGHT be doable, but at five enemies the common idea was to run away, if they give chase, fight them, one at a time!, here's a decent idea of what Japanese swordsmanship is like ruclips.net/video/RvgxD3O-OPI/видео.html although i do think these re better examples of good sword choreography, the thing to remember, is that the majority of watchers are not gonna be sword experts, or hema practitioners, their gonna be people who while they may know it's fake, love the power trip fantasy of being that "lone warrior fighting a thousand soldiers" thing, like in dynasty and samurai warriors, it's ridiculous, yes, but it's SO MUCH FUN, so great vid dude, but still, most of these are still fictional, but that's ok, cuz it's fun
Sadly, no bro, non of em look good, not even the rapier/ shortsword ones. I've practiced it myself, and no. Pretty crappy. But nice try, actually XD. Just so you know how crappy they were, it's like Helen of Troy: Rapier version. Perhaps we will have some cool stuff in the future. Love yer commentary, pretty funny and your disappointment is adequate : )
The sword fight in Polanski's Macbeth is comically awful
I'll check it out... there may be a video to be made.
This may seem an odd choice, but Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had what to me, looked like a fairly realistically choreographed fight between Louis Steven and the Crazy Russian chick. Granted, the setting was really weird, (I don't think sword fighting from atop 2 separate and fast moving vehicles is the best idea) but there was no spinning, and no major telegraphing, and overall wasn't over the top.
Doesn't excuse the fucking aliens at the end of the movie, but its something
if he's a shit sword fighter how'd he catch you
Brian Danner probs isn’t even the choreographer who has done the most well know movies, starting to reeeeeeally get bothered by this channel ugh
As well, these aren’t the “best” sword fights, they’re ones you like that have realism, the cinematic value and emotion behind some of these scenes have been greatly outmatched by some of the “spinny” swordfights in other films
ruclips.net/video/Qn5jrtdLOZ0/видео.html (my favorite duel)
You mispronounced "pronunciation"...........
I did... but I am really quite stupid... and to lazy to re shoot stuff. Don't hold it against me.
I don't, I just find it funny XD
yea fencing is pretty lame.
i don't agree with you
they all look terrible.
I think there pretty good when compared to other sword fights in mainstream movies.
The sword fight in Polanski's Macbeth is comically awful
I dunno, it's one of the few scenes where the characters' armour has a big effect on the fight. They don't really fight the way you would in armour, but it's still a cut above the average for that IMO
I'll have to check this one out.