Drum Talk - Analysis of the Drum Kits Used By Danny Seraphine of Chicago with Tate Berkey

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @Drumguy48
    @Drumguy48 3 года назад +5

    Danny’s white Slingerland concert tom kit is my favourite of all Danny’s kits. I saw him playing it at Maple Leaf Gardens. Terry Kath was still alive at this concert. Still one of the best concerts I have ever seen.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching my friend! I saw him play that last tour with Terry too! Thanks for the feedback!

    • @Drumguy48
      @Drumguy48 3 года назад +2

      I asked Danny what happened to all his Slingerland kits at a drum clinic. He told me gave them all away.

    • @SalMichael
      @SalMichael 2 года назад +1

      @@earldrum Wow , you saw Terry ,jeez. Yeh I met him here when he came with California transit. There were maybe 20 people there I got to talk w him , my fave is prob the Rogers white pearl kit . I never got into much past the first 7 records. Which later ones can you recommend?

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      @@SalMichael Chicago VIII, X, XI are all great albums … even hot streets, 13, XIV … from 16 on it gets more 80s ballad band in my book. But Danny is there until Twenty.

  • @gregwonhoff7161
    @gregwonhoff7161 Год назад +1

    Earl, yesterday I pulled out an older Chicago cd of hits and tried to play along. That wasn’t a pretty affair. I had quite a few things going against me, number one being I am not that good, followed by not really knowing the songs that well, and as a topper, just listening to Danny play blew me away.
    Not wanting to just take it out and put it back on file I remembered that you did a bunch of Chicago covers, so I went to you page, found the Chicago playlist, and studied you. Hearing the drums pales to actually seeing what is going on. To use an over used phrase…wash, rinse, repeat.
    Again you are here for me, and I am so very grateful for that.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  Год назад +1

      Greg, I’m glad I can inspire drummers to learn and grow … and enjoy all kinds of music! Thanks for your support my friend!

  • @mikemaegly2521
    @mikemaegly2521 3 года назад +3

    So, I have now watched the long version and the short version. HUGE Danny fan. Loved this!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Mike thanks for watching both! I felt the short version was needed to make it more of what we wanted. A lasting representation of Danny’s kits. We hope other DANNY fans will watch and add their knowledge of his playing a d drum kits! I appreciate your feedback! 🥁👍🏻🤘🏻🙏🏻

  • @SalMichael
    @SalMichael 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this Earl. Danny will always be my fave.I met him here in Philly. As far as Gretsch, the hardware has been amazing since the late 70s. (And crazy heavy) I really dig the channel good work.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      Thanks for the feedback Sal!

  • @SONORSQ2guy
    @SONORSQ2guy 3 года назад +4

    Great video thanks for sharing 👍 I like Danny’s white Slingerland kit!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад +1

      Greg that was the kit he played when I saw him in 1977! 🤘🏻👍🏻✌🏻

  • @MichaelKPerry
    @MichaelKPerry 3 года назад +3

    It’s an amazing thing when people examine all aspects of a persons drum set and life...I’ve never had the interest in venturing that deeply into the weeds but it’s cool for those that like to do that...maybe someday a person might examine your drums and life...you never know lol

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад +1

      Maybe? Lol this is my true fan of DANNY and his influence on my playing coming out! Thanks for watching Michael!

  • @TonySerioDrums
    @TonySerioDrums 3 года назад +4

    Very interesting topic!! Danny was s big influence on me too!!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching and your feedback Tony! He was one of the greats of the 70s! It’s hard to grow up during that period and not be influenced a little bit! Thanks! 👍🏻😎🙏🏻

  • @DrummerKeithScott
    @DrummerKeithScott 3 года назад +4

    You made a drum geeks dreams come true with this show. Great episode!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Keith! It was my ultimate geek show for sure! 😎👍🏻

  • @brianchisnell1548
    @brianchisnell1548 3 года назад +1

    Wow. This was fun! Ahh the 70s. Started the drums in' 69. Lessons in 70. Concert toms were everywhere. Danny's playing spoke to me. It was rudimental style jazz/rock. Loved it. My second kit was a Slingerland Jupiter. 9 pc all CT except 18 floor and 22 bass drum. I believe single headed drums will come back! Hal Blaine on the Carpenters albums with those fiberglass monster concert toms is incredible. Cheers!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Thanks for the feedback Brian! I love Danny’s playing! He’s a huge inspiration to me!

    • @brianchisnell1548
      @brianchisnell1548 3 года назад +1

      @@earldrum Make me smile!!! The fills!! Big influence on me too!

  • @toddmorrissey8372
    @toddmorrissey8372 Год назад +1

    Good stuff! I've never been much of a fan of Danny -or Chicago for that matter- but found this super-interesting. I always appreciate geeking out over a player's history with gear. Well done.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  Год назад

      Thanks for watching Todd! Geeking out is fun somedays!

  • @tmaddrummer
    @tmaddrummer 2 года назад +2

    Fellas this was a treat! Peace and Blessings!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching my friend!

  • @luytondriman6236
    @luytondriman6236 Год назад +1

    Very comprehensive, well researched guys.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  Год назад

      Thanks for the feedback and watching! 👍🏻🙏🏻🥁🤘🏻

  • @DiegoRamirez-zc7fs
    @DiegoRamirez-zc7fs 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great discussion! Very informative.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback Diego! Thanks for watching!

  • @adrianlyord5300
    @adrianlyord5300 3 месяца назад +1

    How could the “ guys” in Chicago talk about his drumming skills when he was the creator of the “ sound of the band “, and he’s a founding member too?! Much respect 🫡 ✊🏾 to Danny and thanks for sharing this video!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback Adrian! I couldn’t agree more! The Chicago drama was stupid! Danny was the drum sound of the band! Thanks for watching my friend!

  • @fredjeannieschultz1251
    @fredjeannieschultz1251 3 года назад +1

    Earl, that's a fun video. I'm also a drummer, and have been a Danny Seraphine fan since the early seventies. I was lucky enough to see him with the original line-up about 8-10 times between 1974 and 1978, and you're right, 3 hour concerts without an opening act. In reference to his black Slingerland kit with the 10" concert tom, if you look back through those old Slingerland catalogues from the 70's, the smallest diameter double headed tom produced was a 12". I would assume that he wanted the 10" tom, and that the concert tom was his only option. What I find amazing looking at these old pictures is how much better the hardware is these days. Man, that old stuff was light duty. As far as his sets go, even to this day my favorite is the white set with the 6" to 16" concert toms. I love all of the different tones. It's funny, over the years I've owned 3 different Slingerland kits, primarily because of Danny and Buddy. Thanks for the video.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Thanks for the feedback Fred or Jeannie! That is so cool you got to see them that many times! I love the concert tom kit too! But I’m still looking for a 10x10 concert tom to match that setup! Thanks for watching!

  • @bentol86
    @bentol86 3 года назад +2

    I like these new platform of your show.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Thanks for the feedback Ben! 😁👍🏻

  • @chriswright2250
    @chriswright2250 3 месяца назад +1

    Very well done. ❤

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 месяца назад

      Much appreciated Chris! Thanks for watching my friend! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻🥁💯

  • @johndorohovich3367
    @johndorohovich3367 3 года назад +2

    hi Earl, I really enjoyed the video it was great
    thank you 😉😸👍🥁

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      John thank you for the feedback my friend!

  • @ARDrummer
    @ARDrummer 3 года назад +1

    Awesome info! Very nicely done Earl!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Thanks Adam! 🤘🏻👍🏻🙏🏻😎

  • @bryandrums32
    @bryandrums32 3 года назад +1

    Watched the entire video!!!!! Great stuff Earl

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Thanks Bryan!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад +1

      It’s a labor of love ... talking about DANNY!

    • @bryandrums32
      @bryandrums32 3 года назад

      @@earldrum ❤️❤️❤️🙌🙌🙌🤘🤘🤘💯💯💯

  • @ChuckThomas
    @ChuckThomas 2 года назад +1

    This is great -I was just wonderin' what kit he used in the late '60's---As I listened to first album back in '69 I was wondering back then too but we didn't have access to internet search back then! hah

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      I love Danny’s drum kits of the 60s, 70s and early 80s! Thanks for watching Chuck!

  • @jessicagreene1773
    @jessicagreene1773 3 года назад +3

    Do you know what ride cymbal Danny was playing at that Tanglewood Concert? That thing is sweet!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад +2

      I believe it was an A Zildjian 20” Medium Ride ... it seemed to be his ride of choice for years in the Zildjian catalog.

    • @jessicagreene1773
      @jessicagreene1773 3 года назад +2

      @@earldrum Thank you Earl!

  • @amystewart985
    @amystewart985 11 месяцев назад +1

    His coolest kit was the Chicago 18 tour kit by Yamaha! Double bass acoustic and double bass electric kit!

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback Amy! That was a great kit! Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😊👍🏻🤘🏻

  • @justdrums4459
    @justdrums4459 3 года назад +1

    Great video! 👍

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching my friend! 😎

  • @MrJsfingers
    @MrJsfingers 2 года назад +1

    This is incredible. I’m a keyboardist and I’d love to know what keyboards/synths were used on Chicago’s 16-19. My bet is 16 and 17 Rhodes, Roland Jupiter, Oberheim, Yamaha CS80, Dx7 and Prophets and 19 had to be D-50.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад +1

      Probably all you mentioned … but did Robert Lamm play any of them on the record? That’s the question!

    • @MrJsfingers
      @MrJsfingers 2 года назад +2

      @@earldrum Chicago 16, no. Chicago 17…possible. Knowing Foster, probably not. Very meticulous

  • @chgdeep
    @chgdeep 2 года назад +1

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  • @jametz66
    @jametz66 3 года назад +2

    That was super geeky cool! LOL. What 'documentary' on Chicago are you referring to?

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching our geeky show. There are a few Chicago documentaries. One was done in 2018 by CNN ... Tate mentions that one. Then there is the late 90s Vh1 Behind the Music, and the 1992 ABC In Concert with Chicago which I referenced that day as well and the CBS broadcast “Chicago in the Rockies” ... there is some Caribou Ranch recording footage from that one in the video.

  • @adrianlyord5300
    @adrianlyord5300 3 месяца назад +1

    Buddy Rich said that he was one of those drummers that “ He “ would listen to because all the others sounded so much alike!!!! The proof is in the pudding!!! 😊

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 месяца назад

      Agree again! Danny was a favorite rock drummer of Buddy Rich! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻😎🤘🏻🥁

  • @salthedrummer1
    @salthedrummer1 3 года назад +1

    31:43 looks like Ludwig kit with Rogers hardware...spurs and swivomatic tom mounts...

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Hi Sal, I’m not sure what you are referencing… but I’ll check it out if you figure it out!

  • @glenduke7811
    @glenduke7811 3 года назад +1

    Yep cliques and backing tracks nowadays. Not my cup of tea either. Great vid thx!

  • @guscast1
    @guscast1 2 года назад +1

    I asked Danny through facebook what set he used on the second album,and he simply answered "The White Marine Rogers"

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      You know Gus … it was recorded before his endorsement with Slingerland, so that makes sense to me!

  • @filppocadeddu
    @filppocadeddu 3 года назад +1

    Likeee 3 for you my friend 🙌😎

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching my friend! 👍🏻

  • @c.i.dangelo4515
    @c.i.dangelo4515 2 года назад +1

    Perhaps coverage of his toupee styles over the years? Just kidding, man. I've been sub'd to your channel for quite awhile now.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching C.I.! Danny’s hair styles … that’s an interesting angle 😂😎👍🏻🤘🏻

  • @karensaldanha4760
    @karensaldanha4760 10 месяцев назад +1

    I attended a very intimate concert of Chicago Transit Authority after Covid, so this is from Danny's own mouth about his firing. I will try to recall as accurately as possible. He said he has to take a lot of the blame and has come to terms with that. He not only paid too much attention to the business, he also skipped a lot of rehearsals and messed up a lot of live stuff enough that it was throwing the band off; so much so, David Foster put him on click track live (he sounded pretty bitter about that) and replaced him entirely with a session drummer (although still credited him) on one whole album. Sorry to say, I don't remember which album. It was either 16 or 17. I know Robert Lamm (although credited) was absent on most of 16 due to rehab. Danny was upset with the persons he brought in the band wanted him out the most (David Foster, and Jason Scheff). Jason and Bill Champlin have apologized for voting him out and now they play together sometimes. Yes, it was a crappy documentary, but the Danny thing seems complicated. Anyhow, he played his ass off that night.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  10 месяцев назад

      Karen, thanks for your perspective. Life is complicated, being in a band is complicated, being in Chicago has been complicated for many. I’m glad Danny came out in 2006 and started living again as a musician because he brought life to me as a kid playing drums, and he it’s apparent he got a raw deal from this “band of brothers.” Danny made peace with Jason and Bill … it’s unfortunate that the other remaining members never really made their peace publicly. But it is what is now. Chicago is a corporate entity now so my passion for the band is pretty low, but it was great to see Danny at the RRHOF play one more time. I’m glad I saw the band in 1977 with Terry Kath and Danny’s huge white Slingerland kit at MSG in NYC! I did experience the magic of that Band of Brothers once!

    • @karensaldanha4760
      @karensaldanha4760 10 месяцев назад

      I saw Danny about 13 times with Chicago and that one time with California Transit Authority.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@karensaldanha4760 I saw Chicago the many times after Terry died and even once with Tris. But I never saw the new CTA live. I’ve met Danny at a drum clinic and he is a wonderful human being! Danny was my main drumming influence as a teenager and he continues to be one of the greatest drummer innovators of my generation. Chicago would not have been what they are today without Danny Seraphine. No other drummer could play those hit songs like Danny. But music changes and Chicago was about staying relevant. Unfortunately, after they fired Danny they never had another hit record (except 25 the Christmas album). But they kept on playing concerts. Eventually the second band of brothers left one by one. I don’t think the Chicago management treat Bill Champlin properly either, but that’s his story to tell. Anyhow … thanks for watching!

  • @michaelconti2498
    @michaelconti2498 2 года назад +1

    Does anyone know if Danny played double bass drums at Carnegie Hall in 71'?

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад +1

      Michael, from the photos of tours DANNY didn’t start playing double bass drums until around the time of Chicago 13, possibly during the end of the Hot Streets tour .. in 1978-79.

    • @michaelconti2498
      @michaelconti2498 2 года назад

      @@earldrum Thanks !

  • @mrtyreus0
    @mrtyreus0 3 года назад +1

    It's likely you know more about the history of Danny's kits more than Danny himself.
    It's almost like he really influenced the 70s push towards concert toms. I wonder if Phil Collins was inspired by Danny. I feel like they'd have a mutual respect for one another.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      One of the things I have found out about old famous drummers is that most of them don’t know their drum gear as well as us fans! We fans obsess over which cymbal or snare they used, but most of them don’t! Thanks for watching!

  • @drumbelly
    @drumbelly 2 года назад +1

    The Rogers bass drum can only be a 22” or larger diameter as there were 10 lugs present and not 8 that Rogers used on all of their 20” bass drums. Interesting there is barely the mention of the Rogers wooden Dynasonic snare drum that he definitely used on the first album and perhaps on some of Chicago 2. At 10:46 that is a white Rogers set and NOT a Leedy set! Facts.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      Drum belly, you could be right … but many other company drum kits were outfitted with Rogers hardware during that time period. Rogers hardware was the standard, but good eye you are probably correct. Tate and I were just riffing through our limited knowledge of our favorite drummer’s kits! Thanks for watching!

    • @drumbelly
      @drumbelly 2 года назад +1

      @@earldrum It’s all good brother. More people should talk about Danny and his legacy and I surely appreciate it. I think I saw the white Rogers in a magazine and it was maybe a back line set from a concert in Toronto in the early 70s. I’m an old head (62) so I did see Danny in Philly on the Chicago 7 tour (black Slingerland) and the Chicago 11 tour (white concert tom Slingerland). The 11 tour was in ‘77 and sadly the last one with Terry Kath. Cheers! Scott

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      @@drumbelly thanks for the feedback Scott! Danny has been a huge influence! 🙏🏻😎

    • @drumbelly
      @drumbelly 2 года назад

      @@earldrum
      I did get to meet Danny when he first started his new band CTA. He had just done the Modern Drummer Festival and played the North Star in Philly right afterwards. There were maybe 45 people in attendance so he hung out with us a bit after the show. I asked him why he went to Slingerland from Rogers and he just said “Easy, Rogers wouldn’t give me an endorsement and Slingerland would”. I told him I loved his Rogers sound on the first Chicago record, he just nodded and smiled. He had a double bass DW set with 2 18” bass drums and Remo Fiberskyn tom batters. Cheers! Scott

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      @@drumbelly Scott I met Danny in 2011 at a drum clinic at Sam Ash in Miami! Beautiful man! He signed his book, took a photo with me and signed a 16” A Zildjian medium thin crash that I won for identifying the drum break to Make Me Smile!

  • @johnpurtill9799
    @johnpurtill9799 Месяц назад +1

    Hammer ,, I Watched Vh1 Behind The Music Episode.About Chicago and I Want You To Know I Agree With You, Watch This Episode Again Tell Me If I'm Wrong The Other Guys We're Getting High Alot, Danny Was Staying Sober and HE WAS Starting To Pay More Attention To The Business Side Of It,Specifically Danny Was Telling The Other Guys They ALL Should Be Making More Money Which Was Starting To Stir Up Alot Of Tension Between The Guys And Their Manager The Rest Of Chicago Preferred Danny Just To Play The Drums, So It Was Fire Danny OR Let Danny Stay Which Would've Broke Up The Band Again Please Watch This Episode Again Alot Of These Comments If I'm Correct Were Made By Robert Lamb
    Im Sorry To Admit I Don't Follow Chicago As Much Anymore Since Danny Was Fired and Well You Know Peter Left On His Own, However I Think Jason Scheff Is Alright, Well Danny Has His Own Group Now "California Transit" I Wish Him Continued Happiness 😔👍🎼🥁🎵🎵🤩.........

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the feedback and watching! I was so happy to see Danny play with his old band mates at the RRHOF in 2016. But since Chicago fired Danny, they have has not been important to me musically. I love Danny’s drumming and those great songs of my youth. The new Chicago is a corporate tribute band that is on the road to make money. The real Chicago has been lost for decades since firing Danny. The other band mates killed the artistic legendary band that was Chicago. Unlike the The Rolling Stones which kept as many original members as long they could until they couldn’t tour and record anymore! But that’s my opinion! Thanks for watching!

  • @mrtyreus0
    @mrtyreus0 3 года назад +1

    I appreciate his early contributions, but Pankow turned out to be the ass that turned Chicago into what we suffer with now.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  2 года назад

      Agree the entire horn section had a part in the Chicago since the 1990s! It’s never been Chicago since DANNY left to me!

  • @krusher74
    @krusher74 Год назад +1

    I wish americans would just move to the logical way of saying the head size of the drum first, its just backward to be saying the depth of the drum first.

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! Sorry my friend feel the same way but in reverse about European drum sizes. So I feel your pain. 🙏🏻🥁👍🏻

  • @dmmurray9422
    @dmmurray9422 7 месяцев назад +1

    Get a life?

    • @earldrum
      @earldrum  7 месяцев назад

      🤔Thanks for watching! 😎👍🏻