TAPESTRY - 2P - Playthrough & Review

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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2025

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  • @christophe08111981
    @christophe08111981 5 лет назад +11

    I think that is one of the best reviews I have ever seen! You two are just great in dissecting a game and explaining the pros and cons.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Aww thank you so much! That means a lot to us. We hope to put out more playthroughs soon!

  • @BrandonGraham
    @BrandonGraham 5 лет назад +7

    I was bored, so I searched for board game reviews uploaded in the past week and found your channel. Looking forward to seeing more stuff. Seems like a good find! Looking forward to seeing more.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Thanks for checking us out! Glad we popped up on your search

  • @carmelthomson9917
    @carmelthomson9917 Год назад +1

    thanks so much for this video...I nearly died when I saw the instructions for this game...its literally three only pages!!!

  • @TheSmuey
    @TheSmuey 5 лет назад +5

    Played my first game tonight. The single fact that when the game's over, you're already thinking about how next game, you could get more points and really optimize your play style, really indicated good game design. Obviously, due to figuring out some intricacies, our game lasted a bit longer that it would normally and our final scores were pretty bad (90 vs 67, I lost, but i'm primarily in it for just playing and the experience), but I fully expect that to improve over times played. Love the playthrough!

  • @ronald182au
    @ronald182au 5 лет назад +21

    I think this is my new favourite channel! Fantastic playthrough!

  • @Mercury2wo
    @Mercury2wo 5 лет назад +4

    Just started watching this video and can already see that you guys are patient, clear and have excellent camera work.
    I look forward to more videos! Keep it up!

  • @WhatAboutDat
    @WhatAboutDat 5 лет назад +3

    Loved this video. Just got tapestry and was trying to figure out how to play a two player game. I thought you did a great job articulating the rules and demonstrating gameplay. There are sooo many ways to collect points in this game you sometimes forget to your own detriment all the ways you can collect vp points. I had to slow and rewatch various parts of this video specifically the scoring vp points during the “collect income” portion of the game. Explaining how tech cards worked was really helpful . This game is terraforming mars meets tiny towns meets an a condensed version of scythe resource management. Thanks for such a great overview break down I will be definitely tune into more of your vids in the future.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Aw thank you! That's so awesome to hear! It definitely has a few moving parts that can sometimes be difficult to track

  • @WendyGa
    @WendyGa 5 лет назад +3

    I came to see how the game plays with 2 (really nice play through and well produced) and stayed for the thoughtful discussion / review at the end. Thanks for this helpful video.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Thanks for checking it out! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @julianflores8739
    @julianflores8739 5 лет назад +10

    28:58 I think the word you’re looking for is “laurel” 😁

  • @MartinTelinius
    @MartinTelinius 5 лет назад +1

    Great video! Was awesome to play Glen more 2 with you guys at the VIP table at Essen! Looking forward to watching more of your videos!

  • @babyrne78
    @babyrne78 3 года назад +1

    Awww look at this old video of ye! You've come so far in a short space of time ! Haha. At 5:44, looks like Dexter isn't a fan of the wonders of the world! 😂😂

  • @WaywardNys
    @WaywardNys 2 года назад +1

    This is a great and helpful video, but it's also bananas to see the quality improvement on your videos from then until now, in such a relatively short amount of time. Extremely imrpessive. (And to highlight, there's nothing WRONG with this quality - it was easy to follow and showcased the game well)

  • @gerGoPrint3D
    @gerGoPrint3D 4 года назад +3

    30:43 He was supposed to get a tapestry card and a territory card as well in this 2nd income turn, no?

  • @UnfilteredGamer
    @UnfilteredGamer 5 лет назад +2

    Very fancy! I love these playthroughs!

    • @UnfilteredGamer
      @UnfilteredGamer 5 лет назад +2

      suggestion, audio blockers for the hum (or audio reduction / extremely light background music) Maybe it's because you use two different microphones? If so use the one that is facing you for the entire edit.

    • @Kms7171
      @Kms7171 5 лет назад +1

      @@UnfilteredGamer I know what you mean, that's a good idea!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      @@UnfilteredGamer Oh yeah there was a point in the middle where our main mic cut out so we had to use audio from one of the cameras unfortunately. We also forgot to stop the AC so it's blowing in and out. I think some music in the future would be nice. Do you have any suggestions for royalty-free music?

    • @UnfilteredGamer
      @UnfilteredGamer 5 лет назад

      @@BeforeYouPlay I do, I'll message you a few sites and other resources!

  • @DianeMountford
    @DianeMountford 5 лет назад +4

    At 59:30, I believe Jamey has ruled that you DO get to take the bonus of the space before moving up due to a roll of the science die. Basically, you roll the die, but don't move up until you've completed your actions on the space you currently occupy.

    • @DianeMountford
      @DianeMountford 5 лет назад +1

      Also, it killed me that you forgot to take both the military landmarks you were entitled to. You could have completed at least a couple rows and columns.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Thanks for the clarification! I wish some of these were clarified in the rulebook, but I suppose maybe he didn't run into the specifics until after it was already printed. Either way, looks like he should have had that bonus.

  • @jellevancamp7190
    @jellevancamp7190 5 лет назад +1

    Great review. Looking forward seeing more on your channel :)

  • @dansioui9819
    @dansioui9819 5 лет назад +2

    Enjoyed this play through and your discussion after. I have not seen you guys before. I have subbed so I can check out more future content!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Thanks for checking us out and subbing! I'm glad you enjoyed it

  • @RuelGaviola
    @RuelGaviola 5 лет назад +6

    Really appreciate your thoughts on the game! I've enjoyed it at 4 (and, surprisingly, 5) players and I've solo-ed it a few times. Naveen, I also wish there was one more action to do in the game; while I like the simple advance or take income turn structure, sometimes it feels like there should be more (I think the capital city puzzle may be it, but so far I haven't found it all that engaging). And Monique, I agree that this game is all about timing. It's all about setting yourself up to have those nice combo-tastic turns, which I do find fun, but it's not always something I look for in games. Like both of you, I have some issues with Tapestry, but it's also an excellent game that I've been happily exploring this last week.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      You played at 5?! Amazing! How long did it take? I might end up in a 5 player game next weekend and want to know what's ahead of me lol. We know exactly what you mean in regards to the capital city. Glad to hear you've been exploring it! I'm interested in hearing how your opinion of it changes over time.

    • @kisslionheart
      @kisslionheart 5 лет назад +3

      A 5 player game was super fun actually. Took us about 3 hours and all of us were all first timer.

    • @RuelGaviola
      @RuelGaviola 5 лет назад +1

      @@BeforeYouPlay It only took us 90 minutes! The group I played with are all experienced gamers and nobody wasted any time making decisions. What's funny, though, is now that I'm starting to get my head wrapped around the game, I see myself taking longer on my turns. Not sure that's a good thing lol. AP would definitely be a problem for some players. I solo-ed it a bunch this week and I still really like the game, but it's not quite up there with my other Stonemaier favorites (Viticulture w/Tuscany, Scythe)

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      @@kisslionheart Oh that's great to hear! I was hesitant at first but now I'm looking forward to it

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      @@RuelGaviola Wow 90 minutes is crazy for that player count! I know what you mean, it seems the more you know the more you need to analyze lol. I really like that you solo these games! It's not really a dimension that either of us experience much but I'm (Monique) considering it for sure.

  • @kisslionheart
    @kisslionheart 5 лет назад +5

    I like the simplicity of the video. I’d like to play with you guys lol.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Thanks for checking it out and yes if we ever have the opportunity we'd love to play a game with you as well!

  • @garys4067
    @garys4067 5 лет назад +2

    Great review!

  • @MattHoevenaars
    @MattHoevenaars 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the playthrough. I felt bad for Monique for forgetting about the 2 military landmarks :(

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Thanks for checking it out! Don't feel too bad for me, I accidentally cheated very early on lol

  • @skiddwister9143
    @skiddwister9143 3 года назад +1

    Watching this video and just today your review of the Ploys expansion has thrown me from the fence. I'm buying this game. I find it interesting that even negative reviews state how fun the game is.

  • @macngames100
    @macngames100 4 года назад

    Thank you for doing such a great play through and review! I have heard issues with how swingy civilizations and tapestry cards are, but I think if you accept that this may happen, it’s actually very fun to just figure out the puzzle along the way! It may be frustrating to see a big difference in final scores (which seems to happen in this game), but perhaps you just have to recalibrate a little! 20-50 point difference may still be a “close” game haha!

  • @elessar11
    @elessar11 3 года назад

    Great review - should help people see if this game is for them. I had a lot of the same issues that you guys mentioned. Balance issues with the civs and tapestry cards. Feeling like there aren’t enough interesting choices to take on your turn. I also didn’t like that the point spread in so many of my games was huge. About half the games I played had a point spread of 100+ points - a game is less exciting for me when it doesn’t feel close.

  • @BoardgameswithNiramas
    @BoardgameswithNiramas 5 лет назад +2

    Nice playthrough! A little tip is to zoom sometimes in editing as some things can be very hard to see if people watch this to learn the game, its easy to do even though it does take some time in editing which we all hate right ;)

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      Hey thanks! I'm totally new to editing so I have to figure out how to do that haha. I wish someone could just teach me how do it all lol

    • @BoardgameswithNiramas
      @BoardgameswithNiramas 5 лет назад

      @@BeforeYouPlay I could try to explain how I do it, but I learend myself from RUclips videos, just search for ur program and whatever you want to do :)

    • @BoardgameswithNiramas
      @BoardgameswithNiramas 5 лет назад

      @@BeforeYouPlay Also another tip is for the audio, there was some weird level changes in this playthrough mid way through or so, and a fan/ac going on in the background it sounded like. Theres some very easy to apply filters for the mic in editing (or in OBS software if your using that) so that the lower db is cut out, like 2 of my lights in my studio hums quite loud due to fans but it doesnt exist in my videos cause I set it so that it doesnt record anything below a certain treshhold, again theres YT videos explaining all that :)

  • @williamgarcia-medina9989
    @williamgarcia-medina9989 5 лет назад +1

    Nice collection. 👍🏾

  • @gerbie42
    @gerbie42 5 лет назад +2

    Nice playthrough and review. I think I'm in the same boat that theme sort of 'pasted' on as flavour works fine for me. I have ordered the game and expect to receive it within a week or two (EU). It seems like a bit of a mix of Terraforming Mars and Terra Mystica, possibly with (even) less player interaction. I'm quite sure I'll enjoy it, I like looking for combos and this game probably has plenty. If anything I don't have a game like it in my own collection, most civ/terra games are owned by friends.
    I do feel like the randomness/luck factor might be a bit too swingy for me, if so, I might consider giving it away or only bringing it out when playing with people who enjoy that a bit more.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      Yeah that makes sense! I would say it's probably lighter than Terra Mystica and you're right it does have less player interaction. Let me know how you like it if you don't mind! I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.

    • @gerbie42
      @gerbie42 5 лет назад +1

      @@BeforeYouPlay Right! So we just played our first game, it was a 4 player game. I posted about it on the FB group, due to laziness I'll just copy paste it here ;)
      ----
      First game is a wrap! It was a lot of fun.
      End game scoring:
      1) Heralds (red) 263 (me)
      2) Craftsmen (green) 232
      3) Merrymakers (blue) 217
      4) Entertainers (yellow) 151
      The rules were very easy to understand, it didn't take long before we were trying to figure out what would give the most points, rather than how does this work. (Mind you, our group has played things like Terra Mystica, Terraforming Mars, Scythe etc, so this was very easy to understand) In the end we figured there's so many ways to get points and so many different combos/mini-engines you can potentially use, We don't think the game would ever play out the exact same.
      The Merrymakers, unlike their name actually went heavy military (knowing the player this wasn't a surprise to us), An amazing turn was when he went into "Tanks" (Military III). He toppled one of my outposts, that netted him the 2 topple achievement, together with 7 points + points for each territory die and the landmark to fill an entire district for a resource. The other topple he did was with a trap card when I tried to conquer one of his territories, which was very annoying since it meant I had to go all the way around to get to him again.
      The Craftsmen went heavy on tech and huge in Era 2 due to Capitalism. This little fun engine however left him with too few resources to catch up to the Heralds in the tech tree, meaning he missed out on all the landmarks there.
      The Entertainers unfortunately fell behind a bit, we were however pleasantly surprised when they went to entertain space which gave them quite a few points, unfortunately she happened to just miss out on a few achievements and had less combos with tech/tapestry cards, it felt like she was always a step behind. Maybe she tried to focus on too many different things, will see in future games.
      The Heralds felt pretty versatile, I went heavy on tech at first, Big scorers for me came from 3 things really
      Tech card combos: Tech track itself, Lithium-ion Battery and Assembly Line allowed me to repeat the Telescope (1VP for discovery tiles in your supply) a couple of times, I think this netted me around 50 points on top of 3xpoints for tech cards during income. Terra forming in Era 3 netted me 25 points and also allowed me to place the big ass Rubber Works landmark in a nice location to both fill a row and district. And to finish it off in Era 4 Exploitation allowed me to get some more resources to use my AI Singularity (end of tech tree, placed on military) to conquer all the way to the middle, granting me both achievements for the middle and toppling outposts (both second spot) in addition I had a lot of armories and territories by that time, so the scoring during those conquers and end-game scoring for territories went up pretty high as well.
      It surprised us how many more points you get later on. I think I was at around 40-50 points when I entered Era 3, feeling I would never get above 150 let alone 200, but as the game progressed you can get a lot of stuff if you manage to find it.
      The thing I am most concerned about in the game is the random/luck aspect. But that'll be like 20+ games before I'll allow myself to make a real judgement on that. In this game some things did feel 'lucky', but more so the die rolls than the tapestry cards and getting a resource as opposed to points feels more 'lucky' in era 1-2 as opposed to later on. The tapestry cards can possibly swing, but you can get quite a few of them and even with ones that might not seem as good at first can work very well. I mean I thought Terra forming would get me like 5-10 points max, but because I was able to place my landmark so nicely it not only gave me 5 points for it, but also a resource allowing me to prolong the era and place even more down.
      While the game is easy to play there's this constant idea of trying to get the most out of your turns/resources by trying to get something that leads to some other benefit while also keeping in mind that you might want to be at a certain place on a track before others. Which we all really enjoyed. Theme-wise we think the little story the tapestry cards tell is the part we enjoy the most, the landmarks are a great look on the table, but not much more than that.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      @@gerbie42 That is a fantastic review and you also score quite high especially for a first game! I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on balancing the game after you've played a few more times - it seems to be the one aspect of the game that we keep going back to. Great summary of what sounded like a very eventful play with some pretty competitive players!

    • @atohms
      @atohms 5 лет назад +1

      Just received it in Belgium. First 2 player playtrough planned for this evening 🤗

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      @@atohms Ahh exciting! I'd like to know your thoughts!

  • @ericmiles3562
    @ericmiles3562 3 года назад

    Thanks for the review.

  • @oozubek
    @oozubek 5 лет назад +1

    thanks for your honest review

  • @iamflow2111
    @iamflow2111 4 года назад

    Navine looks like a teachers pet here. I love it 😂😂

  • @shikacaca
    @shikacaca 2 года назад +1

    Is this Radho's room? Or is this just what a room full of kallax, floor to ceiling, looks like?

  • @stevegeorge7773
    @stevegeorge7773 4 года назад

    55:40 you forgot to get the building associated with the move to the third track segment. The craftsman in the civ adjustment rules was muted a tad, they loose a resource each income round from 2 to 5.

  • @mohre5911
    @mohre5911 5 лет назад

    Nice channel. Subscribed instantly.

  • @thomasromanelli2561
    @thomasromanelli2561 5 лет назад

    Thank you both for an enjoyable play-through (while I patiently wait for my own copy to arrive...).
    I really appreciated your comments about the buildings, as I wish the edges of the pieces had been more squared-off to better indicate 2 x 3, 3x 3, or other "footprint" on the city board. I almost feel like there could have been some other accomplishments focused on the city board itself (most area covered, tallest skyline, etc.). It's become obvious to me that getting your income buildings out early will set you up for more productive future turns, and those that fail to do so will almost always fall irrevocably behind (which you demonstrated by the 3 or 4 actions Monique was able to take after Naveen was finished with his game- it's a weird form of non-synchronized parallel play. The science track seems underwhelming when compared to the synergies found on exploration and military in particular, and I've read that the players who focus on advancing along the science track tend to struggle during the mid-game.
    Well, Jamey never promised a perfect game, and I'm still looking forward to getting this to the table (next week according to the tracking # I received today!). Thanks again. 😊

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      Wow that was an excellent analysis actually. I totally agree, achievements for the capital city maps would be amazing. You're absolutely right, it does seem more lucrative to explore and conquer. I played a game where I tried to go up the science track early on and I crashed and burned. Let me know what you think of it when you've played a few games if you don't mind! I'd be curious to know how your thoughts change, if at all.

  • @sgtpepper9001
    @sgtpepper9001 2 месяца назад

    1:17:58 Naveen gave himself 15 points instead of 10.

  • @abdoellaharabi
    @abdoellaharabi 4 года назад

    At 55:44 I think you get the landmark when you get to tier 3 at military tracks 😶

    • @abdoellaharabi
      @abdoellaharabi 4 года назад

      Also at 1:41:03 when you get the militants civ mat, and you have no outpost, I think you will get all the benefit that are exposed on that mat 😶

  • @KDbooks
    @KDbooks 5 лет назад +1

    How’d you get a copy?!?

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      We preordered it right when the preorders were available and it shipped a week after. We're subscribed to his newsletters

  • @kenrickfearn1448
    @kenrickfearn1448 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Guys
    I have a quite a large collection of games ( just under 2k) and I noticed your shelves in the back ground are they from Ikea ? I am looking to update my shelving system and resorting my games collection just before I ice to Spain from France and your shelves look like they are perfect for storing games ?
    Thanks
    Ric

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +2

      Hi Ric! Yes they are the Kallax shelves from Ikea 5x5. They come in a variety of colors and in smaller sizes as well. Highly recommend!

    • @kenrickfearn1448
      @kenrickfearn1448 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for taking time to reply ...I thought so and looks like the direction I will travel in order to replace my current old,and tired shelves lol...

  • @sumho7532
    @sumho7532 5 лет назад +3

    they could have made it so that 3 tapestry card are dispalayed and you can either pick one of the 3 or draw blindly from the deck. That could mitigate some luck

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      Oooh yeah that's really interesting actually. That would also influence your decision in regards to how quickly you try to get to tapestry bonuses. I may house rule that for a game or two and see how it goes. Thanks for the suggestion! It's a good one.

    • @kenrickcarlsonkeh191
      @kenrickcarlsonkeh191 5 лет назад +2

      edame i think tapestry cards should not be displayed. This will make who gets a Trap card obvious.
      Draw 3 and pick 1 would be better.

    • @alienslysly
      @alienslysly 5 лет назад

      @@kenrickcarlsonkeh191 hmm that would increase the power of tapestry card gain though, which might make going for multiple of them not as useful since you'll have greater chance of getting the one you can work with on one action alone.
      I'd suggest doing it similarly as the tech cards, but only have 2 on display & 1 option to draw blind. If a trap is displayed, just reshuffle it into the tapestry deck & redraw. That way you still get to mitigate luck, but maintain the secrecy of traps (& an added 'bonus' for those that draw blind)

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад

      @@kenrickcarlsonkeh191 That is a great point. Draw 3 and pick 1 would also work well for people who really need to find trap cards

  • @リョーニャ
    @リョーニャ 5 лет назад +2

    Blue not spent resourse for 3rd action (conquer) and broke the game! mb

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      You're right! We actually noticed last night, so that totally invalidates the win because as you can see, each resource is an action. Also, it was unintentional so I guess the lesson here is make sure you see everyone spending their resources because it's easy to forget!

  • @akmalfikri
    @akmalfikri 3 года назад

    wait a minute, why is this camera angle is different? :P

  • @HaraldurKarlsson
    @HaraldurKarlsson 5 лет назад

    at ruclips.net/video/I400DqOfcmg/видео.html (tank conquer) you do get bonus of both dice so long as any outpost was toppled, conquering an occupied space triggers this ability, not the success of said action.

  • @Acroherd
    @Acroherd 5 лет назад +1

    It’s been ruled that you can still do the bonus

  • @jptucker4991
    @jptucker4991 5 лет назад +2

    The blue player actually should have gotten 10 more points for getting the militants at the end of the game because their ability activates during the income phase

    • @Kms7171
      @Kms7171 5 лет назад

      That's a fantastic catch! Monique and I didn't realize that, 10 points are exposed during the income phase!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +1

      It's okay though. I (Monique) accidentally cheated, so those 10 points are the least I could sacrifice haha

  • @robvitaro5545
    @robvitaro5545 5 лет назад

    Monique missed receiving TWO landmark buildings in the Military track! 54:04 & 1:38:17
    edit: Oh someone commented about that, sorry.

  • @stevegeorge7773
    @stevegeorge7773 5 лет назад +1

    X-cellent runthrough! But,,,, I cought some cheat’in action 1:18:07 should be 10 points not 15

  • @damaddestgamer
    @damaddestgamer 2 года назад

    Some gameplay mistakes, but great video, enjoyed the gameplay and dynamics.

  • @georgefothergill4858
    @georgefothergill4858 4 года назад

    What is the green catan expansion behind you?

  • @Mercury2wo
    @Mercury2wo 5 лет назад +4

    @21:53 - 😳You’re an Anti-Vaxxer? *Gasp*

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  5 лет назад +3

      LOL no it was a joke. I'm just not wanting to make a statement while board gaming

    • @ryanmunday5077
      @ryanmunday5077 2 года назад

      still feel this way?

  • @Vascariz
    @Vascariz 5 лет назад +1

    Spot on, it's an engine building game... Not a civilisation game...

  • @chichiodum6878
    @chichiodum6878 8 месяцев назад

    Im the 600th like