@@Clashmaster6dude the bap was shit talking them for yapping only at the end of the game after a couple people flames a bit and was making fun of them for being “soooo perfect”
@jkpwordy8297 Yeah, I wasn't saying he was shit talking. I was agreeing that that is exactly how all the shit talkers I play with sound like, lol Sorry if I made it seem like I was shitting on the bap, but not at all~
As someone who gets constantly flamed by teammates for playing ball in qp while also having the enemy team counterswap at least every other game... yeah qp has been a weird sweaty place
ye its this really weird sweaty mess atm where people aren't allowed to learn new characters apparently, like someone had a go at me for learning widow in qp (I'm terrible) and they said i should play widow in the training room to get good, like sure but imp here to feck around, its dumb
Yeah my fav is when one team counter swaps like crazy and the other team hard locks and gets rekt only to cry at the end about the other team being sweaty… you either don’t care or you do ffs pick a lane lmao
I was planning on learning Mei in qp, before going into comp and likely walling my team off by accident lol. Typed it in TC. After first point on flashpoint, where they rolled us, Moira on our team typed “dps diff” and trolled rest of game in spawn/typing. Like bruh
ye, i meant to put its stupid, likei undertsand there is moving targets butthey do not simulate real players like qp will, i think people just forget that qp is for funsies, play to win but dont be a dick is what i say@@ShanyeSoT
As an intern of the mercy mafia I can confirm that her family isnt gonna get home any time soon. Thats because she told the secret on why she posted and said it. If she would have let those parts out her family would be with her.
@@Ontarianmm We recently expanded and now own tge court system. Partialy at least. We can talk about it, its just a bad idea. But as an intern im not getting payed enough to care.
@@Nixahma as a representative of myself I can confirm that nothing you or the rest of the mafia can do is worse than me having to be the intern that I am.
I love how the people complaining they want quickplay to be serious clearly wont just play ranked cause there their performance would actually matter and be judged.
Exactly this bro I don't wanna play comp when ima get spam reported, flamed, and chat banned for just wanting to improve at the game my own way, so I go to qp to improve instead. But I STILLget flamed cuz I'm a one trick (that managed to one trick pharah to gm mind you) and have to play into broken heros. Like I can't win every game on every map against every hero and hit every duel bro, it won't happen so just chill and have fun
Or the other case: OW2 just isn't enjoyable enough to grind ranked, so more people have defaulted to playing unranked instead because matches are quicker and you don't have to invest anything besides the desire to play and win - however you may wish to do that is up to you. You don't have to face meta or flavor-of-month all the time, you don't have to be forced to counterpick all the time, you can actually enjoy yourself more and still have a fair shot at winning - and if your team isn't playing optimally (you're a part of this too) then it's not gonna carry any weight. At least for me, I used to almost exclusively play ranked in OW1 and I enjoyed it, only used QP for warmup and casual with friends - but these days actual ranked feels like a dread. Not because anything's at stake, but because the way the game is played now is just so much less enjoyable when you try to truly take it seriously and play as a cohesive team. The devs have kept incentivizing solo yolo playstyles and with the ping system you never get people in voice chat either unless they're there to flame someone. Ranked is just more of a chore now than an enjoyable experience, and unranked is the only place where it seems like the game design actually matches the gameplay experience somewhat. However, that doesn't mean the objective of the gamemode shouldn't be respected - playing the objective and trying to win with the cards you're dealt. Like any pickup game, you still try to win even if the skill and playstyles and incentives of each player is fairly random, you make do and just enjoy the experience. But when 4 people are playing ball and the 5th is just goofing off or doing solo dribbles every single time the ball is passed to them, that just ruins the experience. Everyone should be in on it, or people will naturally stop playing to that person and then it's a 4v5. Yes unranked shouldn't be taken very seriously, it shouldn't be demanded that players are sweaty. But a baseline gameplay integrity should be upheld as stated by the general ruleset and set expectations, among which griefing or gameplay sabotage or being afk/not contributing to the objective progress, is a reportable offense and always has been. Play to have fun, but don't play in a way that sabotages everyone else's chance of having fun/enjoying the experience.
Man, your performance is judged everywhere in any game mode anyways. Also people play quickplay more because guess what, its the shorter version of ranked. Casual players dont want to play 2 games of ranked, when they could be playin 4 or 5 games of quickplay. Ranked can take 20 or 30 minutes more than not. Those ranked enthusiast want to play more games too. But the only way to try and offer a solution is to split the playerbase more, by copy and pasting the quickplay game mode, calling it something like "Qp comp," giving people half the Sr or whatever it is now, and calling it a day.
@DA-zc7kr I actually would love that tbh. Maybe some day we will be able to pick attack or defense. Who knows with the new people in charge. Kinda like what they've done so far
@@Real_MisterSirtwo things I hate is when people are completely silent or aren’t in VC all game, but then join just to flame. Like they could’ve actually been helping your team win by actively communicating, but they just say you’re trash at the end which helps no one whatsoever. Then the other, is when people complain in match chat about their teammates doing bad. Like everyone has bad games, except for maybe heal bot supports maybe, who often just blame their team, even though they’re not contributing any offensive pressure like they should. But they just whine to the enemy team to try to make excuses to why they’re losing, it’s just sad. Sometimes I just flame the enemy that does that lol
I've had plenty of throwers in QP. And I mean actual throwers. Sit in spawn. Practice flying without fighting. Zoom around the back of the map without engaging anyone. My issue comes in not when people aren't "trying hard enough" but when people are being deliberately detrimental to their team. Wanna play widow? Suck at widow? That's fine. Play, practice, learn. Have fun. But if you're gonna role queue into support and refuse to heal anyone, that's throwing. Role queue into tank and refuse to fight or even mitigate? Throwing. Jump off the edge repeatedly? Throwing. DPS but you start emoting behind the enemy team instead of playing? Throwing. Blizz added a whole section of gamemodes for having creative little hammer runs, emote fests, and whatnot. That's what Arcade and customs are for. Quickplay is for wanting to *play* the game and try to win, even if you're bad at it, and don't necessarily want to use the comp format, or have time for the comp format.
Yeah, its a game. I hate people who throw out of hate. But if we lose because someone was emoting to a enemy why even care? Its quick play, not comp. What am I losing because they are goofing with an enemy? Had a match where Me, (brig) and Winston kept waving at out opposites on the enemy team, then we would stand there for a second, then chaos would insue. We almost lost that match as a draw 😂 it was fun.
@@FezMooseLiveFor me, the issue is time. My friends and I are often joining QP because we have very limited time to play, and either warming up for comp, or don't have time for comp. That doesn't mean we're okay with losing because people just aren't playing. Like I said, I stand with blizz on the idea that quickplay is intended for playing, just not to the level of "skill" that comp is meant for. Arcade and customs literally exist for the purpose of going in and having those silly little stories and memefests and chill zones.
@@ExTeeBee However thats not what arcade is for 😂 the modes are all different. Still, the goal is to win even if the game is goofy or not. If I just want regular modes with regular rules QP Is the place to go. QP can be a sweatfest, or a chill zone, and sometimes goofy shenanigans happen. I prefer goofy Chill OW over sweat-fest in Quickplay. So I say let them have fun, and join them. Its either be mad, or have fun. I'd prefer to stay happy.
@@ExTeeBee custom is custom, I'm trying to get good XP for my battle pass so I role que on all for that 100-500 xp. If you dont want emoting and what not, go to comp. However motes were put in the game to be used.
You shouldn't be toxic regardless of ranked or quick play. In fact if you're in comp and you're flaming your teammate they're going to perform worse, either out of spite or anxiety lol.
I never understand why people flame someome trying their best, yet say nothing to someone actuvely throwing their game. I once tried to play wrecking ball and immeidately fall off a cliff. No one said anything. But I played Baptiste and constantly healing someone and they still die I get flamed for not healing. It's absurd
@@anonymall what are the odds🤦🏻. Ngl this season the damage is insane, they are probably out in the open all the time getting destroyed. Not taking cover to heal
@@kingauther7812And who gives a shit? Is Quick play, win or lose has zero impact on anything so making it so that it has a negative impact on your mental state just cause one guy has fun in its own way is retarded
And I honestly wouldn't mind too much if you decided to do that. I'll do my best to play around it. But I don't like being called sweaty because I'm playing my most played hero. I enjoy playing and doing well with them. It's fun for me.
11:06 I actually had a QP game last season where the enemy attacker team brig did jump of the map all game. Map was numbana first point and i bee honest it wasn't until I heard a brig ult at end of game and check score bored and saw they had insane death count, no damage, kills and low healing. I check the replay and all there did was walk out of spawn turn left and jump off cliff. I didn't even know they was a cliff over there since I never look left of spawn
I’ve been trying practice on quick play and people be playing their mains and then being like “I’m just better” I hate it because I’m trying to learn new characters
Anyone who instigates shit in qp and talks shit is going through some shit in the real world. I . mean why else would they feel the need to have a dick swinging comp in a non-ranked game to prove that they're "better"
I once accidentally pulled my mercy into a bastion ult while trying to save her from another bastion ult i said sorry 3 times but she was so sweet and said "its okay i still love you." 🥺😭💚
Ilios well has one of my favourite moments of getting a3k boop but more often then not I get teammates trying to shoot a pharaoh mercy and end up walking into the well
@@usa8529 the teleporter isn't the same as normal mobility, it's really slow and niche, made up for by ur teammates using it, comparing it to genji mobility or tracer blink or sombra TP doesn't really make sense
I was playing zen and no one was killing the dominating widow, so I made it my mission to constantly kill the widow (using aspect of no footsteps) while still positioning in an angle to throw my orbs. End of the match I was called a troll by our tank … in QP. If dps or tank doesn’t want to flank or kill the back line, I’ll do it myself , which I did. Potg was me literally destroying 3 people in the backline. Point of my story is that it was QP, I may as well do something productive instead of just spam bot in our own back line, and the tank got mad at me. Would I do that in comp? Probably not as likely, but QP I wanted to be a goof and see what I could do.
I had the same when I play Lucio. Im usually a tank main, but I refuse to touch tank rn with how oppressive DPS is. So I just f around in qp as dps lucio cause it's fun. Last game got 13 kills on just the widowmaker alone but got flamed for "not healing enough" by tank and 1 of the dps. Like my brothers in christ, I have the highest kill count and lowest deaths in the lobby and have been solo diving and winning their back line all game. Not my fault you're still somehow struggling despite me occupying half their team.
Ngl I always compromise myself in quickplay by doing something stupid or playing a new character but as soon as it looks like we're about to lose I go back to a comfort pick and start lifting.
I hate that there are still people that sweat and try hard in quickplay and will yell at teammates. If I want to try hard and work with the team I'll go into comp but if I want to relax and figure out a character I'll go into qp.
I'm pretty sure I played with that Lifeweaver a week ago. First round dude pulls me into an enemy Reinhardt shatter. Next round he pulls me into a Bastion ult exactly like in the clip. I had already told him after the first time to not pull me.
Rein rework idea: Blocking 250 or more damage with shield gives you 20% damage reduction for 6 seconds upon putting it away, stacking with armor to 50%. Charge gets two charges and has a 4 second cooldown, but cannot pin enemies unless both charges are available. Pinning an enemy uses both charges, while missing a pin only uses one. Shift a little of pin's damage from the crush to the grab but keep the total amount the same, and increase the shove damage.
Everytime I see a lifeweaver on my team I think they will either keep me alive, save me and make good plays or they will be the 6th enemy player. Mostly of the time they are the second one.
The LW vid reminds me of a game I played in League of legends game. I was the character Sett, and he has an ult that basically picks up and power bombs the enemy in a line. I went to go for a pick and powerbomb an enemy from the back line into my team so they could kill them. The problem is the enemy I was going to pick up moved and I accidentally clicked a character named Karthus so I accidentally killed my entire team because he has an AOE ability that emanates from him, plus if he dies he stays on the field as a ghost and he can spam abilities for a short amount of time. So we killed him, but it accidentally got my entire team killed in the process. It took me a while to ever play Sett again on purpose
My thing is with QP, is that Overwatch is a competitive shooter. That's the genre of the game. Comp is not the only place for competition. I boot up QP to warm up for comp, just to get used to the game after not being on for the day. The problem arises when 1. My team wants to make friends with the enemy team, preventing me from playing the game the as intended. 2. If I then leave that game to find one where people are actually playing the game as intended, I will eventually receive a punishment for that. 3. My teammates are clearly having a hard time playing the characters they enjoy since they don't want to switch, and since it's QP, they choose not to, and their frustration grows. This leads to them redirecting their self-inflicted frustrations onto teammates who aren't counterswapping for them to counter their counters. That's where the flaming begins. Overwatch QP is no more fun than comp in reality. The difference is that some people play QP so as not to lower their rank in Comp. They want to play without the risk of deranking.
Bro I literally go into quick match and ask the enemy team what tank I should play so I can get variety and experience of getting countered (cause that's what tank is anyway).
"Mercy players are sweet angels, if you hate them there's something wrong with you." I think at least two thirds of the slurs I hear in Overwatch games are said by Mercy mains. No other OTPs are so comfortable telling people to kill themselves.
In quick play, I couldn't give 2 shits if we win or lose, it's just an endgame animation at that point. It's when I literally cannot play or have fun because half our team aren't doing anything, ruining it for the rest of the team. Maybe it's the tank charging in alone, dying, condemning the rest of the team. Maybe it's the supports pumping healing into the tank, leaving everyone else to die. Maybe it's the DPS not being able to kill anything, literally making it the job of the tank to 1v5 the whole time. That shit pisses me off
Will say for the mauga thing I had a group of 4 people all agree to follow my call during mauga meta and they became really good at the strat known as no bitch where we all drop what we do and beat tf out of the mauga. It was hilarious watching a group of plats yell no bitch because a diamon told them to do it.
I can't wait to play Gigantic again. I'm so over OW having a strangle hold on any form of hero shooter. Be it TF2 reskins (which OW is) or an actually interesting and new ideo like Gigantic (which i have coined the term MOBA-lite to describe.)
I once met a 2 stack healer group in my quickplay game that straight didn't heal anyone for the entire game (this was before the dps/tank self healing), and if that doesn't scream casual quickplay fun, I don't know what does
I got DC twice in a comp match and was still popping off as widow every time, that then my team blames me for why we loss, not my reaper going 20-18 in 15 minutes, just because my stats were getting reset
As a collegiate support player who plays competitive dps in my free time, support is definitely the easiest roll filled with babies that don’t know how to play the game. Gone are the days of me complaining about tank as I instead watch my plat supports die the most in the lobby as Moira while they play terrible positions and waste all their cooldowns. Edit: yes I’m currently plat dps(I’m not amazing at dps, but if you ask I will tell you I’m hardstuck) I’ve actually hit d1 on dps 🤓
0:20 sigma "could" be viable because if the enemy are standing on the edge his rock boops them back a TINY bit so it would work but only if standing on the edge.
I've been seeing the message for "currently reviewed for claims of disruptive play" or something like that for months, I've only played comp once and never touched it again, I'm mostly on qp playing Junkrat or Lucio depending on the role i get, thankfully it's just that message and nothing more but still annoying that playing qp basically has me flagged
6v6! He said it! Honestly. My biggest issue with 6v6 was shield meta. But they took most of that away now. Reduce some tank HPs, move some other numbers around, and I think 6v6 works right now. It has its issues, but I'd rather deal with 6v6 issues than 5v5 issues.
8:50 I can't play the competitive aspect because I can't get the 50 wins required when only 2/5 players care to try and win though. How do I solve that problem?
play more. the enemy team is more likely to have a thrower than your team. you do not have a throwing team every single game, and not all games with throwers on your team are unwinnable. the answer is to literally just play more games
As a Moira main who is dating a Mercy main (yes lol), I can say that my beautiful and wonderful girlfriend.... will call you so many frickin names if you do not protect her and she will throw the goddamn controller away lmao-
See the thing is when i play games i just naturally try my hardest to win, which would include if I play quickplay, although in quickplay i dont counter swap or play what's important and i dont care ab coms or if i win as badly, but its not like my mechanical skills or game sense are worse when i play a different game mode
Lol after a long day of comp my friends an i go to qp to do wacky stuff like damage boosted zen or nano mercy to let the stress out from competitive games
There's a difference between just playing bad in qp or learning in qp, but throwing in qp like role q support but only to not heal your team at all is problematic. Thankfully blizzard does find it toxic and takes action even for qp matches.
One of the better things call of duty did was in WW2. They had a bootcamp mode, you played in there till a certain level, then they let you loose with all the heathens in team death match and everything else. It was like newby protection game mode. Learn to play with other people also picking up the game. They could so with a mode like that here, but the worry is always splitting up the playerbase more. Not that we'll ever know. Less they give us player counts for game modes like games used to again.
Don't need to take QP as seriously when you know it's only 1 game of hundreds, thousands, or even more And if you are actively remembering and trying to bring up bad matches instead of forgetting them, that's on you
I often hand my after match praises on both healers. They kept me alive and even rode into hell with me to try to keep me alive when I go full retard, which I respect. The ones who don't even try to heal me? I give it to the DPS. Generally I toss it at the healers because they've saved my bacon far more often than the DPS has.
Quickplay imo is like a pickup basketball game. Yeah you might take some crazy shots or not try the hardest but thats totally different than dancing at midcourt and chucking the ball out of bounds everytime you touch it. So yeah quickplay isnt get sweaty and you shouldnt flame your teammates but you should try your best to play the game because one or two ppl can ruin the experience for a whole lobby and nobody wants to play a game where they feel their time is being wasted.
Well if they want To play proper ow they could like umm what was it called... Que into the proper games que and not To the silly willy que where People do what ever they want. Tldr. You want To play "proper" ow go comp. You want To see me In ur games trolling away go To unranked.
Despite playing overwatch since 2019 I really don't understand why people dislike mercy so much. I genuinely enjoy playing her, she's my favorite character to play. and I sincerely don't understand the community dislike. Like is it all a big joke that i don't get? If someone could explain that would be great
Its a lot of weird things combined. Some of the hate stems from the old days of hide and seek 5 man res Mercy. Then fighter jet, 3 res mercy. But the meme stems from 2 opposing sides undervaluing Mercy's skill cap (since they think it is braindead easy to play a mercy) and the mains overvaluing her compared to the versatility or healing throughput compared to her fellow supports. That gap is so huge to be bigger than the grand canyon.
@@Keldiur odd. Tho I guess I can understand. People overvaluing anything to the point of obsession can be annoying and people undervaluing things to the point of obsession could be annoying. Thank you for explaining to me 😊
Personally it's the fact that they made her survivability accessible at skill floor for me. Before if a mercy had really good mechanics I could respect that I wasn't able to kill her easily, but now it's so hard to kill even a bronze mercy because even their movement becomes incredibly unpredictable
Mercy used to be the hardest hero in the game to master, now she's more boring to play while being super survivable. I can't even respect good mercy mains anymore because she only needs half decent positioning and awareness now
@@noahjordan6761 personally I did prefer when super jump was technically a glitch. however, I do think that slingshoting yourself around and just having fun has made Overwatch personally more enjoyable for me. And not respecting a player when they're good just feels a little sad. No shade tho we all have our personal opinions.
NAAAHHHHHH FLATS, “it’s quick play it’s supposed to be drop in drop out”, NAHHHHH, you can’t drop out of QP games, you get penalized! You have to take the toxicity and the trolls and everything, you’re forced to have a bad time with people that only care about ruining your night! Flats the QP leaver penalty is I think like, 3 consecutives or 5 out of 20, about that. You can’t just “leave and load into another one”. Especially with the amount of throwers there are out there. Now, granted, it depends on time and day by day, but I’ve had days where it’s game after game of people just running into the enemy team doing nothing but saying hi. Lifeweaver’s trying to pull people off the map or otherwise into weird places. Meis trying to block the team’s advance. AFK tanks. People leaving winning games turning them into losing ones. Etc etc. Fair play if you’re doing stupid shit. I’m a support player, I see my doom having a dance-off with the enemy doom I’m going to heal the doom and try to stop the enemy team interrupting. Stupid fun. I see a torb running in with hammer, I’m gonna try to keep him alive. Stupid fun. Fair play to it. Fair play as well if you’re learning. It’s not overly fun to be losing, and I will say something in chat (non-toxic unless you’re being toxic or an ass) but fair play I do it too whenever I play DPS. But if you’re actively trying to make the game unfun…. It wouldn’t be as bad if reports did anything in QP. You can’t report gameplay sabotage in QP. I’ve reported toxicity, NSFW names, etc and had responses saying action was taken. Never had that for gameplay sabotage. Never.
The LW clip is bait, they knew exactly what they were doing all along. Want a panick tree, they activly moved it infront of the orisa. And the pull i was expecting to be in the pit but it was into a bastion ult. I would literally report this for greifing and sabo.
The mercy mafia needs to just be quiet. With the press of a button they can negate a kill, damage boost the already strong dps, and fly around holding m1 and m2 like it takes skill(it doesnt)
rez is highly punishable, and the rest of mercy's kit is pretty ass rn though. i have like 1 hour on mercy across multiple accounts, so it's not like i'm a biased mercy main. she just isn't that good
My brother even the most casual of people know what trowing is , that is a basic human observation , if you are actively fighting against a groups goal you are trowing , anyone can see that doesn't matter if it is in a game or not.
It’s not fun to lose, I get it, I play Heroes and QM matches can go 15-20 minutes, it’s not fun to lose that. However, it gives me no reason to flame people for making a mistake.
Not gonna lie, I play to win in QP but I’ll be damned if I don’t just say “gg” at the end of the game and move on with my life whether I win or lose but hey, that’s just me
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Bap hitting his team with the “🤓” was golden. Lemme buy that man a skin.
That Bap is fucking based for what he said there.
Literally how every low rank shit talker I deal with is xD
@@Clashmaster6 i think i got a stroke
@@Clashmaster6dude the bap was shit talking them for yapping only at the end of the game after a couple people flames a bit and was making fun of them for being “soooo perfect”
@@jkpwordy8297i don’t think he’s calling bap the shit talker lol
@jkpwordy8297 Yeah, I wasn't saying he was shit talking. I was agreeing that that is exactly how all the shit talkers I play with sound like, lol Sorry if I made it seem like I was shitting on the bap, but not at all~
That Lifeweaver is exactly why I develop trust issues with the character.
As a lifeweaver main, your concern is valid.
Why isn't it the Potg
@@bennettnez4711as another Lifeweaver main, I can agree
It’s such a troll character
"Tree of death", "Death grip"
That Lifeweaver should've gotten play of the game with how many people he killed
Damn. I would already get potg for lw for walling mt team consistently cuz im a helpful lw
8:19 look at chat. Artboyo "KarQ lands sleeps?"
I am fucking dying
Sorry not Artboyo. it's Botronicraid
Blackwatch Genji has two sides:
-Sweatiest one trick you’ve ever seen
-lore buff
As someone who gets constantly flamed by teammates for playing ball in qp while also having the enemy team counterswap at least every other game... yeah qp has been a weird sweaty place
ye its this really weird sweaty mess atm where people aren't allowed to learn new characters apparently, like someone had a go at me for learning widow in qp (I'm terrible) and they said i should play widow in the training room to get good, like sure but imp here to feck around, its dumb
Yeah my fav is when one team counter swaps like crazy and the other team hard locks and gets rekt only to cry at the end about the other team being sweaty… you either don’t care or you do ffs pick a lane lmao
I was planning on learning Mei in qp, before going into comp and likely walling my team off by accident lol. Typed it in TC.
After first point on flashpoint, where they rolled us, Moira on our team typed “dps diff” and trolled rest of game in spawn/typing. Like bruh
@@queenflissthe training bots have billboards for heads anyway. Not very good target practice
ye, i meant to put its stupid, likei undertsand there is moving targets butthey do not simulate real players like qp will, i think people just forget that qp is for funsies, play to win but dont be a dick is what i say@@ShanyeSoT
I’m going to steal from that Bap player as well. Holy shit that was hilarious
As an intern of the mercy mafia I can confirm that her family isnt gonna get home any time soon. Thats because she told the secret on why she posted and said it. If she would have let those parts out her family would be with her.
As the mercy mafias lawyer this is only alleged
@@roland8357 I was about to say, I thought y'all were not supposed to say this.
@@Ontarianmm We recently expanded and now own tge court system. Partialy at least. We can talk about it, its just a bad idea. But as an intern im not getting payed enough to care.
@@dollscentedhunter2514 As an enforcer of the Mercy mafia, you might soon find yourself unemployed, or worse.
@@Nixahma as a representative of myself I can confirm that nothing you or the rest of the mafia can do is worse than me having to be the intern that I am.
The overwatch Facebook pages are full of people who tryhard in quick play, telling people to use bots or go arcade to practice and such
Well it's one way to learn
wait people still use Facebook? Wild
@@Real_MisterSir i use it for groups and "research" so yeah.
@@f687sNFMthere is p*rn on Facebook?
I think they smell like old ppl
I love how the people complaining they want quickplay to be serious clearly wont just play ranked cause there their performance would actually matter and be judged.
Exactly this bro I don't wanna play comp when ima get spam reported, flamed, and chat banned for just wanting to improve at the game my own way, so I go to qp to improve instead. But I STILLget flamed cuz I'm a one trick (that managed to one trick pharah to gm mind you) and have to play into broken heros. Like I can't win every game on every map against every hero and hit every duel bro, it won't happen so just chill and have fun
Or the other case: OW2 just isn't enjoyable enough to grind ranked, so more people have defaulted to playing unranked instead because matches are quicker and you don't have to invest anything besides the desire to play and win - however you may wish to do that is up to you. You don't have to face meta or flavor-of-month all the time, you don't have to be forced to counterpick all the time, you can actually enjoy yourself more and still have a fair shot at winning - and if your team isn't playing optimally (you're a part of this too) then it's not gonna carry any weight.
At least for me, I used to almost exclusively play ranked in OW1 and I enjoyed it, only used QP for warmup and casual with friends - but these days actual ranked feels like a dread. Not because anything's at stake, but because the way the game is played now is just so much less enjoyable when you try to truly take it seriously and play as a cohesive team. The devs have kept incentivizing solo yolo playstyles and with the ping system you never get people in voice chat either unless they're there to flame someone. Ranked is just more of a chore now than an enjoyable experience, and unranked is the only place where it seems like the game design actually matches the gameplay experience somewhat. However, that doesn't mean the objective of the gamemode shouldn't be respected - playing the objective and trying to win with the cards you're dealt. Like any pickup game, you still try to win even if the skill and playstyles and incentives of each player is fairly random, you make do and just enjoy the experience.
But when 4 people are playing ball and the 5th is just goofing off or doing solo dribbles every single time the ball is passed to them, that just ruins the experience. Everyone should be in on it, or people will naturally stop playing to that person and then it's a 4v5.
Yes unranked shouldn't be taken very seriously, it shouldn't be demanded that players are sweaty. But a baseline gameplay integrity should be upheld as stated by the general ruleset and set expectations, among which griefing or gameplay sabotage or being afk/not contributing to the objective progress, is a reportable offense and always has been. Play to have fun, but don't play in a way that sabotages everyone else's chance of having fun/enjoying the experience.
Man, your performance is judged everywhere in any game mode anyways. Also people play quickplay more because guess what, its the shorter version of ranked. Casual players dont want to play 2 games of ranked, when they could be playin 4 or 5 games of quickplay. Ranked can take 20 or 30 minutes more than not. Those ranked enthusiast want to play more games too. But the only way to try and offer a solution is to split the playerbase more, by copy and pasting the quickplay game mode, calling it something like "Qp comp," giving people half the Sr or whatever it is now, and calling it a day.
@DA-zc7kr I actually would love that tbh. Maybe some day we will be able to pick attack or defense. Who knows with the new people in charge. Kinda like what they've done so far
@@Real_MisterSirtwo things I hate is when people are completely silent or aren’t in VC all game, but then join just to flame. Like they could’ve actually been helping your team win by actively communicating, but they just say you’re trash at the end which helps no one whatsoever. Then the other, is when people complain in match chat about their teammates doing bad. Like everyone has bad games, except for maybe heal bot supports maybe, who often just blame their team, even though they’re not contributing any offensive pressure like they should. But they just whine to the enemy team to try to make excuses to why they’re losing, it’s just sad. Sometimes I just flame the enemy that does that lol
Can't wait to play Illios well with these new strategies! (I will still get rolled)
*Sees Illios*
*Goes Hog, Pharah, Junkrat, Illari, Lucio*
*Wins with only environmental kills*
I always go dva on well. Then constantly stand infront of hog so he can only hook me and i can booster my way out
I've had plenty of throwers in QP. And I mean actual throwers. Sit in spawn. Practice flying without fighting. Zoom around the back of the map without engaging anyone.
My issue comes in not when people aren't "trying hard enough" but when people are being deliberately detrimental to their team.
Wanna play widow? Suck at widow? That's fine. Play, practice, learn. Have fun.
But if you're gonna role queue into support and refuse to heal anyone, that's throwing.
Role queue into tank and refuse to fight or even mitigate? Throwing.
Jump off the edge repeatedly? Throwing.
DPS but you start emoting behind the enemy team instead of playing? Throwing.
Blizz added a whole section of gamemodes for having creative little hammer runs, emote fests, and whatnot. That's what Arcade and customs are for. Quickplay is for wanting to *play* the game and try to win, even if you're bad at it, and don't necessarily want to use the comp format, or have time for the comp format.
Yeah, its a game. I hate people who throw out of hate.
But if we lose because someone was emoting to a enemy why even care? Its quick play, not comp.
What am I losing because they are goofing with an enemy?
Had a match where Me, (brig) and Winston kept waving at out opposites on the enemy team, then we would stand there for a second, then chaos would insue.
We almost lost that match as a draw 😂 it was fun.
@@FezMooseLiveFor me, the issue is time. My friends and I are often joining QP because we have very limited time to play, and either warming up for comp, or don't have time for comp. That doesn't mean we're okay with losing because people just aren't playing.
Like I said, I stand with blizz on the idea that quickplay is intended for playing, just not to the level of "skill" that comp is meant for. Arcade and customs literally exist for the purpose of going in and having those silly little stories and memefests and chill zones.
@@ExTeeBee However thats not what arcade is for 😂 the modes are all different. Still, the goal is to win even if the game is goofy or not.
If I just want regular modes with regular rules QP Is the place to go. QP can be a sweatfest, or a chill zone, and sometimes goofy shenanigans happen.
I prefer goofy Chill OW over sweat-fest in Quickplay. So I say let them have fun, and join them. Its either be mad, or have fun. I'd prefer to stay happy.
@@FezMooseLiveCustoms though. My point stands.
@@ExTeeBee custom is custom, I'm trying to get good XP for my battle pass so I role que on all for that 100-500 xp.
If you dont want emoting and what not, go to comp. However motes were put in the game to be used.
For the bap going mental almost made me choke on my food 😂😂
You shouldn't be toxic regardless of ranked or quick play. In fact if you're in comp and you're flaming your teammate they're going to perform worse, either out of spite or anxiety lol.
I never understand why people flame someome trying their best, yet say nothing to someone actuvely throwing their game. I once tried to play wrecking ball and immeidately fall off a cliff. No one said anything. But I played Baptiste and constantly healing someone and they still die I get flamed for not healing. It's absurd
@@anonymall what are the odds🤦🏻. Ngl this season the damage is insane, they are probably out in the open all the time getting destroyed. Not taking cover to heal
I love that Mercy Mafia isn’t just a thing, but a thing that is to be feared by all 😂😂
Torb only hammer kills is something I do often in quick play, its so fun
If you are only doing that the entire game tho, yiu are just making it a 4v5
@@kingauther7812And who gives a shit? Is Quick play, win or lose has zero impact on anything so making it so that it has a negative impact on your mental state just cause one guy has fun in its own way is retarded
@@kingauther7812so? Who cares its qp
@@kingauther7812Worth. It’s QP.
And I honestly wouldn't mind too much if you decided to do that. I'll do my best to play around it. But I don't like being called sweaty because I'm playing my most played hero. I enjoy playing and doing well with them. It's fun for me.
11:06 I actually had a QP game last season where the enemy attacker team brig did jump of the map all game. Map was numbana first point and i bee honest it wasn't until I heard a brig ult at end of game and check score bored and saw they had insane death count, no damage, kills and low healing. I check the replay and all there did was walk out of spawn turn left and jump off cliff. I didn't even know they was a cliff over there since I never look left of spawn
Might be someone trying to grind xp
I’ve been trying practice on quick play and people be playing their mains and then being like “I’m just better” I hate it because I’m trying to learn new characters
Anyone who instigates shit in qp and talks shit is going through some shit in the real world. I . mean why else would they feel the need to have a dick swinging comp in a non-ranked game to prove that they're "better"
I once accidentally pulled my mercy into a bastion ult while trying to save her from another bastion ult i said sorry 3 times but she was so sweet and said "its okay i still love you." 🥺😭💚
Ilios well has one of my favourite moments of getting a3k boop but more often then not I get teammates trying to shoot a pharaoh mercy and end up walking into the well
Nah that LW need to uninstall the whole game after that 😂😂😂
That's why I like Mystery Heroes because it forces you out of your comfort zone.
TORB HAMMAR KILLS MENTIONED :D sometimes i go hammar only and actually win and its so fun even if you lose
Went into quickplay with my friends,i nano’d the torb and he got 3 kills,that won’t be forgotten lol
Nothing is more fun than road hog hooking people into the pit either on lighthouse or temple
I like how Sym is forgotten as usual on that well analysis. She works wonders on both cage and highground
Uhh she doesn't have much mobility and she can get knocked into the well so easily
@@anonymallShe has the teleporter.
@@usa8529 the teleporter isn't the same as normal mobility, it's really slow and niche, made up for by ur teammates using it, comparing it to genji mobility or tracer blink or sombra TP doesn't really make sense
Honestly, with quick play being just diet comp, I've been playing mystery heroes and it's been fun.
That Bap instantly shut everyone up by calling them out. Respect.
I was playing zen and no one was killing the dominating widow, so I made it my mission to constantly kill the widow (using aspect of no footsteps) while still positioning in an angle to throw my orbs. End of the match I was called a troll by our tank … in QP. If dps or tank doesn’t want to flank or kill the back line, I’ll do it myself , which I did. Potg was me literally destroying 3 people in the backline. Point of my story is that it was QP, I may as well do something productive instead of just spam bot in our own back line, and the tank got mad at me. Would I do that in comp? Probably not as likely, but QP I wanted to be a goof and see what I could do.
I had the same when I play Lucio. Im usually a tank main, but I refuse to touch tank rn with how oppressive DPS is. So I just f around in qp as dps lucio cause it's fun. Last game got 13 kills on just the widowmaker alone but got flamed for "not healing enough" by tank and 1 of the dps. Like my brothers in christ, I have the highest kill count and lowest deaths in the lobby and have been solo diving and winning their back line all game. Not my fault you're still somehow struggling despite me occupying half their team.
Ngl I always compromise myself in quickplay by doing something stupid or playing a new character but as soon as it looks like we're about to lose I go back to a comfort pick and start lifting.
I hate that there are still people that sweat and try hard in quickplay and will yell at teammates. If I want to try hard and work with the team I'll go into comp but if I want to relax and figure out a character I'll go into qp.
I'm pretty sure I played with that Lifeweaver a week ago. First round dude pulls me into an enemy Reinhardt shatter. Next round he pulls me into a Bastion ult exactly like in the clip. I had already told him after the first time to not pull me.
Rein rework idea: Blocking 250 or more damage with shield gives you 20% damage reduction for 6 seconds upon putting it away, stacking with armor to 50%. Charge gets two charges and has a 4 second cooldown, but cannot pin enemies unless both charges are available. Pinning an enemy uses both charges, while missing a pin only uses one. Shift a little of pin's damage from the crush to the grab but keep the total amount the same, and increase the shove damage.
Everytime I see a lifeweaver on my team I think they will either keep me alive, save me and make good plays or they will be the 6th enemy player. Mostly of the time they are the second one.
The LW vid reminds me of a game I played in League of legends game. I was the character Sett, and he has an ult that basically picks up and power bombs the enemy in a line. I went to go for a pick and powerbomb an enemy from the back line into my team so they could kill them. The problem is the enemy I was going to pick up moved and I accidentally clicked a character named Karthus so I accidentally killed my entire team because he has an AOE ability that emanates from him, plus if he dies he stays on the field as a ghost and he can spam abilities for a short amount of time. So we killed him, but it accidentally got my entire team killed in the process. It took me a while to ever play Sett again on purpose
i quite literally troll in qp, spawn camping enemies with my bestie on ana zen
My thing is with QP, is that Overwatch is a competitive shooter. That's the genre of the game. Comp is not the only place for competition. I boot up QP to warm up for comp, just to get used to the game after not being on for the day. The problem arises when 1. My team wants to make friends with the enemy team, preventing me from playing the game the as intended. 2. If I then leave that game to find one where people are actually playing the game as intended, I will eventually receive a punishment for that. 3. My teammates are clearly having a hard time playing the characters they enjoy since they don't want to switch, and since it's QP, they choose not to, and their frustration grows. This leads to them redirecting their self-inflicted frustrations onto teammates who aren't counterswapping for them to counter their counters. That's where the flaming begins. Overwatch QP is no more fun than comp in reality. The difference is that some people play QP so as not to lower their rank in Comp. They want to play without the risk of deranking.
Bro I literally go into quick match and ask the enemy team what tank I should play so I can get variety and experience of getting countered (cause that's what tank is anyway).
"Mercy players are sweet angels, if you hate them there's something wrong with you."
I think at least two thirds of the slurs I hear in Overwatch games are said by Mercy mains. No other OTPs are so comfortable telling people to kill themselves.
In quick play, I couldn't give 2 shits if we win or lose, it's just an endgame animation at that point. It's when I literally cannot play or have fun because half our team aren't doing anything, ruining it for the rest of the team. Maybe it's the tank charging in alone, dying, condemning the rest of the team. Maybe it's the supports pumping healing into the tank, leaving everyone else to die. Maybe it's the DPS not being able to kill anything, literally making it the job of the tank to 1v5 the whole time. That shit pisses me off
Will say for the mauga thing I had a group of 4 people all agree to follow my call during mauga meta and they became really good at the strat known as no bitch where we all drop what we do and beat tf out of the mauga. It was hilarious watching a group of plats yell no bitch because a diamon told them to do it.
I can't wait to play Gigantic again. I'm so over OW having a strangle hold on any form of hero shooter. Be it TF2 reskins (which OW is) or an actually interesting and new ideo like Gigantic (which i have coined the term MOBA-lite to describe.)
Ngl. I go quickplay and saw me sole support for 3 tanks, i tell the mauga you are helping me healing the team
Every day I play tank in Overwatch my life expectancy drops by three and a half days
Good thing im watching this before going to bed lol
someone in chat: makes a good point
flats: dodges question, changes topic, "what about", strawman fallacy
That's a hood classic move right there
I once met a 2 stack healer group in my quickplay game that straight didn't heal anyone for the entire game (this was before the dps/tank self healing), and if that doesn't scream casual quickplay fun, I don't know what does
5:55
So, THIS is why I get death threats for trying to play my favourite Support.
I got DC twice in a comp match and was still popping off as widow every time, that then my team blames me for why we loss, not my reaper going 20-18 in 15 minutes, just because my stats were getting reset
I instalock Junkrat in qp not because I wanna win, but funny rat man makes things go boom, Chaos!
Sadly enough, I see genuine throwers in comp much more often than I do QP
I couldn't have sabotaged harder than that lifeweaver if I tried my darnest.
where’s that dev blog at about them wanting quickplay to be sweaty? I need that
As a collegiate support player who plays competitive dps in my free time, support is definitely the easiest roll filled with babies that don’t know how to play the game. Gone are the days of me complaining about tank as I instead watch my plat supports die the most in the lobby as Moira while they play terrible positions and waste all their cooldowns.
Edit: yes I’m currently plat dps(I’m not amazing at dps, but if you ask I will tell you I’m hardstuck) I’ve actually hit d1 on dps 🤓
💀bro plays MERCY YOU ARE A RED FLAG
5:05 im dying bro how did he do that voice 😭
Spent so much time learning other supports only for moira to be meta this season lol
0:20 sigma "could" be viable because if the enemy are standing on the edge his rock boops them back a TINY bit so it would work but only if standing on the edge.
"I don't wanna get death threats tonight"
buddy you said anything negative about support players, you'll get death threats for breathing at them.
I've been seeing the message for "currently reviewed for claims of disruptive play" or something like that for months, I've only played comp once and never touched it again, I'm mostly on qp playing Junkrat or Lucio depending on the role i get, thankfully it's just that message and nothing more but still annoying that playing qp basically has me flagged
6v6! He said it!
Honestly. My biggest issue with 6v6 was shield meta. But they took most of that away now. Reduce some tank HPs, move some other numbers around, and I think 6v6 works right now. It has its issues, but I'd rather deal with 6v6 issues than 5v5 issues.
I had a fat lifeweaver moment when I saw my hog losing the 1v1 against a diva so I pulled him as he pushed his ult. : (
ayyy love these keep up the great content my man
8:50 I can't play the competitive aspect because I can't get the 50 wins required when only 2/5 players care to try and win though. How do I solve that problem?
play more. the enemy team is more likely to have a thrower than your team. you do not have a throwing team every single game, and not all games with throwers on your team are unwinnable. the answer is to literally just play more games
As a Moira main who is dating a Mercy main (yes lol), I can say that my beautiful and wonderful girlfriend.... will call you so many frickin names if you do not protect her and she will throw the goddamn controller away lmao-
See the thing is when i play games i just naturally try my hardest to win, which would include if I play quickplay, although in quickplay i dont counter swap or play what's important and i dont care ab coms or if i win as badly, but its not like my mechanical skills or game sense are worse when i play a different game mode
"mercy are sweet little angels 😇"
"Please let go of my family mercy mafia."
*Shows mercy destroying someone at the end*
Had me wheezing bro
Convinced my sister to try playing ow and we got put in the sweeties QP matches I've ever seen. Safe to say she doesn't want to play again
Lol after a long day of comp my friends an i go to qp to do wacky stuff like damage boosted zen or nano mercy to let the stress out from competitive games
Mercy players have so much free time from not having any gameplay that they can go out and kidnap people for tiktoks
Idc about QP but that’s not gona stop me from typing “yo some one sign this genji next necros” when I watch them lose a 1v1 to a mercy
Rip for the Lifeweaver, it happens
There's a difference between just playing bad in qp or learning in qp, but throwing in qp like role q support but only to not heal your team at all is problematic. Thankfully blizzard does find it toxic and takes action even for qp matches.
I can't tell you how many people have said to report me for playing shadow-torb in qp, people don't respect the sneaky backline hammer elims.
One time i got flamed for speed boosting out of a bastion últ and my team asked me why i didnt heal
Id believe you about quickplay if not for the fact they made it mandatory to get 50 WINS in order to play ranked.
One of the better things call of duty did was in WW2. They had a bootcamp mode, you played in there till a certain level, then they let you loose with all the heathens in team death match and everything else. It was like newby protection game mode. Learn to play with other people also picking up the game. They could so with a mode like that here, but the worry is always splitting up the playerbase more. Not that we'll ever know. Less they give us player counts for game modes like games used to again.
At least the bap player was able to say it, sadly they still won't learn and will still blame their teammates
I unironically switch to comp for a less toxic experience these days
guy in the second clip sounds a little like farengar secret-fire
Don't need to take QP as seriously when you know it's only 1 game of hundreds, thousands, or even more
And if you are actively remembering and trying to bring up bad matches instead of forgetting them, that's on you
I often hand my after match praises on both healers. They kept me alive and even rode into hell with me to try to keep me alive when I go full retard, which I respect. The ones who don't even try to heal me? I give it to the DPS. Generally I toss it at the healers because they've saved my bacon far more often than the DPS has.
Quickplay imo is like a pickup basketball game. Yeah you might take some crazy shots or not try the hardest but thats totally different than dancing at midcourt and chucking the ball out of bounds everytime you touch it. So yeah quickplay isnt get sweaty and you shouldnt flame your teammates but you should try your best to play the game because one or two ppl can ruin the experience for a whole lobby and nobody wants to play a game where they feel their time is being wasted.
Well if they want To play proper ow they could like umm what was it called... Que into the proper games que and not To the silly willy que where People do what ever they want.
Tldr. You want To play "proper" ow go comp. You want To see me In ur games trolling away go To unranked.
Like i get mad in qp but in the moment i feel like its my teamates but then i watch my replay and go ooooooo..... sometimes im the problem.
Despite playing overwatch since 2019 I really don't understand why people dislike mercy so much. I genuinely enjoy playing her, she's my favorite character to play. and I sincerely don't understand the community dislike. Like is it all a big joke that i don't get? If someone could explain that would be great
Its a lot of weird things combined. Some of the hate stems from the old days of hide and seek 5 man res Mercy. Then fighter jet, 3 res mercy.
But the meme stems from 2 opposing sides undervaluing Mercy's skill cap (since they think it is braindead easy to play a mercy) and the mains overvaluing her compared to the versatility or healing throughput compared to her fellow supports. That gap is so huge to be bigger than the grand canyon.
@@Keldiur odd. Tho I guess I can understand. People overvaluing anything to the point of obsession can be annoying and people undervaluing things to the point of obsession could be annoying. Thank you for explaining to me 😊
Personally it's the fact that they made her survivability accessible at skill floor for me. Before if a mercy had really good mechanics I could respect that I wasn't able to kill her easily, but now it's so hard to kill even a bronze mercy because even their movement becomes incredibly unpredictable
Mercy used to be the hardest hero in the game to master, now she's more boring to play while being super survivable. I can't even respect good mercy mains anymore because she only needs half decent positioning and awareness now
@@noahjordan6761 personally I did prefer when super jump was technically a glitch. however, I do think that slingshoting yourself around and just having fun has made Overwatch personally more enjoyable for me. And not respecting a player when they're good just feels a little sad. No shade tho we all have our personal opinions.
NAAAHHHHHH FLATS, “it’s quick play it’s supposed to be drop in drop out”, NAHHHHH, you can’t drop out of QP games, you get penalized! You have to take the toxicity and the trolls and everything, you’re forced to have a bad time with people that only care about ruining your night!
Flats the QP leaver penalty is I think like, 3 consecutives or 5 out of 20, about that. You can’t just “leave and load into another one”. Especially with the amount of throwers there are out there. Now, granted, it depends on time and day by day, but I’ve had days where it’s game after game of people just running into the enemy team doing nothing but saying hi. Lifeweaver’s trying to pull people off the map or otherwise into weird places. Meis trying to block the team’s advance. AFK tanks. People leaving winning games turning them into losing ones. Etc etc.
Fair play if you’re doing stupid shit. I’m a support player, I see my doom having a dance-off with the enemy doom I’m going to heal the doom and try to stop the enemy team interrupting. Stupid fun. I see a torb running in with hammer, I’m gonna try to keep him alive. Stupid fun. Fair play to it. Fair play as well if you’re learning. It’s not overly fun to be losing, and I will say something in chat (non-toxic unless you’re being toxic or an ass) but fair play I do it too whenever I play DPS.
But if you’re actively trying to make the game unfun….
It wouldn’t be as bad if reports did anything in QP. You can’t report gameplay sabotage in QP. I’ve reported toxicity, NSFW names, etc and had responses saying action was taken. Never had that for gameplay sabotage. Never.
I was cursed with one tricking doom, are there any characters worth learning?
I hear Doomfist is a good one
@@noahjordan6761 Oh! I'll give him a shot 😊 he sounds strong
Thanks for the advice man
@@provonic9187 _maniacally laughs in one trick_
@@noahjordan6761 😈😈
The LW clip is bait, they knew exactly what they were doing all along. Want a panick tree, they activly moved it infront of the orisa. And the pull i was expecting to be in the pit but it was into a bastion ult. I would literally report this for greifing and sabo.
The mercy mafia needs to just be quiet. With the press of a button they can negate a kill, damage boost the already strong dps, and fly around holding m1 and m2 like it takes skill(it doesnt)
rez is highly punishable, and the rest of mercy's kit is pretty ass rn though. i have like 1 hour on mercy across multiple accounts, so it's not like i'm a biased mercy main. she just isn't that good
My brother even the most casual of people know what trowing is , that is a basic human observation , if you are actively fighting against a groups goal you are trowing , anyone can see that doesn't matter if it is in a game or not.
8:55 and we also have mfs doing that shit in total mayhem
It’s not fun to lose, I get it, I play Heroes and QM matches can go 15-20 minutes, it’s not fun to lose that. However, it gives me no reason to flame people for making a mistake.
Why has no one made a series on each map meta?
Can i play sigma edit sounds in qp to motivate my team?
I leave 4 games of QP and got banned for 4hrs 💀
Why are people afraid of the mercy mafia? Like what can they do heal you to death?
Not gonna lie, I play to win in QP but I’ll be damned if I don’t just say “gg” at the end of the game and move on with my life whether I win or lose but hey, that’s just me
If qp is supposed to be drop in/out. Why are we punished for dropping out?
"wHy Is It FuN tO lOoSe?" .... why is your level of fun fully determinant on whether you win or lose in a game mode that has 0 consequences?
it there is hole in the map there is gonna be hog