NYMR - Indiana Jones 5 filming commences on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Filmed on Friday 4th and Saturday 5th June 2021.
Filming for the forthcoming Indiana Jones 5 film has commenced on the NYMR before moving onto Bamburgh Castle in Northumberland.
The loco used is resident 9F 92134, dressed for the filming.
The shed shots are taken from the viewing gallery above Grosmont MPD on the Rail Trail (between Grosmont and Goathland) and the loco shots taken on the Saturday when the stock was moved to Pickering for night filming.
Interestingly, the locomotive is younger than Harrison Ford.
Really?
Yep - British Railways 9F number 92134, made at Crewe, 1957. Harrison Ford, made in Chicago, 1942.
He does look he is about to hit the buffers before it too. "Indiana Jones and the last zimmerframe" will be made next🎞🎬🤣
All the BR standards are younger than Harrison Ford
If the loco's supposed to be German does that make it a "nein f"
Ein joke ist gud yah?
@@emeraldzebra9360 was
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What’s surprising to me is that the engine is under its own power. You’d think it would just be a 1:1 scale model for the film but it’s an actual running steam locomotive. That’s amazing
If you're not going to destroy it then it's probably cheaper to just hire one for use like this.....
Amazing? They're ten a penny. Your idea makes no sense.
It's cool seeing a 9f in such high quality. Great footage
You learn something every day, never realised they filmed it here so fascinating insight, all the best, Paul
I just spotted another black 9F in “Young Winston” (1972 awesome movie I highly recommend). The 9F is masquerading as a South African loco in the 2nd Boer War in 1900, which Churchill escaped on. I think the 9F in ‘Young Winston’ is ‘Black Prince’. 55 years out of era but never mind.
Also GWR 1466 is in the film as an armoured train, in a hugely spectacular stunt/battle scene.
And a green 9F is in ‘The Crown’ pulling the Royal Train in the 30’s. Freight engines never pulled the Royal Train, and it was 20 years before the 9F existed, but never mind!
i hope NYMR gets a boost in ridership from it at least, now it can be a beautiful well run line and 'hey did you know they filmed indy 5 here?' kinda trivia.
And MI7 with Tom Cruise!
Harry Potter was filmed on the NYMR, fine the railway needs funds in these dire times, but Something about a 9F (Not even remotely German looking) covered in Nazi Iconography doesn't sit right with me.
@@garethhughes3327 Really, most people will not care, on even know.
I love how there's more people complaining about people being offended by the covering up of the Swastikas than actual people offended by said Swastika.
If it’s a historical film, set in that time, I see no reason for people to be offended. History cannot be changed, perhaps learned from.
@@1943L History is being re written all the time nowadays. Bet you didn't know Anne Boleyn was black...
How ironic that our country is quickly becoming like Nazi Germany with all this Covid nonsense. And I bet Harrison Ford didn't have to quarantine and have a vaccine status.
@@1943L Excellent reply. Now tell the BBC, and the Universities.
Ah, classic RUclips comment section right here - people only proving this comment's point.
I'm going to guess this is going to be a flashback scene, probably about the main villain and, based on recent news, a de-aged Indy.
In some of the new set pictures Harrison ford has black dots on his face so maybe they will De-age him for a flashback at the beginning of the movie.
1:23 good thing they covered the Swatiska symbols... Imagine going out for a walk and encountering that Nazi train passing by.
I have too many Man in the High Castle-esque multiverse nightmares to be casually out for a walk and see that kind of thing :p That said I think that would make a really cool plotline for IJ5. Love Harrison Ford kicking some Nazi butt.
@@DakotaDuncancheerwine01 I think a multiverse plot twist would be a little bit too over the top for me... But at least I can see Indy fighting with some old / Neo Nazis, apart from Flashbacks.
I remember that a 9F was used to represent a South African locomotive in the 70s film 'Young Churchill'.
that was the Black Prince just after it was brought by the late Wild life artist David Shepard
I wonder if we'll get a limited addition "Nazi Livery" in Hornby's upcoming line of 9Fs.
Hopefully!
@@raymondleggs5508 Boy oh boy the outrage would be intense if that was to happen... I don't think Hornby would dare...
@@emjeebutterz4405 In the context of it representing a movie train I don't think so plus other manufacturers have made model trains with swastikas' on them fienmodelle for example makes custom gauge 1 and 3 gauge trains in WWII liveries. Plus they could just make the swastikas' iron crosses or just have the outer lines of the swastika like on some of the other HO models I have seen.
That would be interesting
Yeah, no chance. I can only see modelers/painters simply repainting their 9Fs.
I shit you not, I actually got an advert for the first four Indiana Jones movies while watching this.
I think that’s part of the algorithm, playing ads that relate to the video.
Good to see the railway getting some exposure and what I'm sure will be much needed extra income. I hope they will now reconsider the ban on German soldiers at future War Weekends.
in Britain?
Just wanted to compliment the Yorkshire team on their work and lengths they go to in everything they do. 😊x
Even this video is better than Indiana Jones 4.
If you lived in esk Valley where the main of the film crew turned up with no prior warning ,you would hate it!!. Good luck to the railway though,made a few Bob.
Saw them arriving from fairhead ~Thought they were Travelers setting up camp 🍻
Beautiful English countryside - ironic in a way
I pray they don’t destroy this franchise it’s my favourite thing of all time .
They kind of already did with the 4th one. This 5th and hopefully final movie, they will go out with a bang and Harrison taking his rightful spot as the only person who can truly play Indy.
@@Matt-rq3bu what 4th one, pretty sure this is the fourth
@@ahalfsesameseedbun7472 we all can wish
Three movies is enough for any franchise. You always end up regretting they made any more.
I like how they covered the swastikas and other Nazi symbols on the consist whilst it was travelling up the line..
I imagine the computer guys are going to stick a more imposing version of them back on.
bloody snowflakes, it's for a film. It's like banning the swastika at 1940's day, lets just erase history so people can't pretend to get offended!
@@isctony are you having a go at the NYMR or me?
@@isctony They just did it out of politeness when not filming. No one wants to see Nazi trains parading around their towns.
@@isctony I'd like to ask them why it's offensive. I'd bet you a fiver most would just um and ah and grope for words.
Imagine an elderly resident suddenly sees that train go by, not knowing it's a for a movie.
Some kind of de-ageing for Harrison Ford must be part of this movie, otherwise it doesn't make sense going back to the 30s..
Or time travel, after crystal skulls anything can happen
The 9f de-aging too. How a loco build in 1957 running in the 30's. Ah filmmaker.
Im from the future its 1944 during thr finals days of WW2
Looks like an 'alternative history' treatment. That would excuse all the glaring inaccuracies at any rate.
BR Mk1s in nazi occupied France for example
@Martin Wheatley It will matter in the future when our archives are damaged or wilfully destroyed and our link to history is archaeological trove, like the contents of a buried home library. Everything matters.
@@philt4346 because the first thought would be to check out a fictional action film. I get your point, but yeah, no.
Considering going to Germany is probably a non-starter, what do you suggest?
OK The story goes like this... He jumps off the train, rolls through a portal, runs up the hill to Fylingdales where everyone is incapacitated, and single-handedly takes out an incoming swarm of Russian ICBM's, and then goes to a Robin Hoods Bay teashop for a nice bit of parkin.... Over to you...
Trains...why did it have to be...trains...
Winston Churchill wrote, “Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” He wasn't the first or last to say it.
Well, thanks for that........
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Oh shutup
@@robharris8844U is somebody unreasonably angry?
@@benwetzel8449 This post is not for therapy, its for entertainment - if you don't like it, get lost😏🤪
Não vejo a hora de assistir ... amo que amo.
See this is the stuff I want to do as a job. I just don’t know what the position is called. I don’t know if it’s set design? I want to help build the sets and stuff.
Nice video, but the train is so utterly British looking in spite of the swastikas ... German trains of French trains didn't look like that at all.
Guy, I hate to tell you, but the average person could board their daily commuter train and have it pulled by an A4, and wouldn't notice a thing. It's just a train to the majority of people, even if you an I are rolling our eyes.
@John Ashtone Tell Guy, not me!
I'm French and I didn't notice anything, it looks Nazi to me !
The only thing I noticed is how they wrote "hanger" instead of "hangar"
@@carmium I had a chance to "do" the Polish Wolszytn Experience in the late '00s and wondered what the local commuters thought when they saw their morning commuter train to Poznan arriving with a 2-6-2 being run by a couple of foreign amateurs and two old bi-level cars, instead of a DMU set?
most movie watchers won't recognize the engine being british, chill yo
I heard indy is after the bell a German invention that has antigravity i watched a documentary about it makes sense with all the nasa stuff it's exciting not knowing what he is going after could be anything I waited years for this movie
I wouldn't trust NASA, Never a Straight Answer is what they should be called lol.
Since when did the Germans use BR Standard 9F locomotives and MK1 coaches these weren't even designed and built until the 1950's, but I suppose it will keep the kiddies happy.
Uh oh the purists are upset
Hi Colin, does it really matter?
@@DaveTheTrain I see putting a swastika ( which they never did anyway ) a bit of an insult on a British locomotive especially when you consider that some of the guys that fought that war may well of ended up driving these engines. Yes to some it will matter !
And when you think of all this 'Woke' shit that is flying around it's one rule them and another for us. Rant over .
For God seek it’s a bloody film
For those who will watch this film ; 99.9% of the people in the audience wouldn't recognise a 9F if it ran over them.
That beautiful footage of the train coming round the bend at 0:52 looks like it was made with Unreal engine or something else when I watch it on my (older) screen ! - is the footage filmed in 4K ?
Very likely 4K it brings out the beauty of the English countryside in summer beautifully.
Looking forward to seeing the movie.
This is fuckin’ AWESOME! I’ve seen many photos of this and this video tickles me the right way!
So Harrison Ford and co have been allowed to come to the UK to film scenes for the next Indiana Jones film, know doubt via private jet and probably didn't have to have a vaccine passport and quarantine to come here, yet joe public has to. One rule for us and none for them.
For American film commitment to the UK and to Covid guidelines I refer to Tom Cruise, last week delaying for the second time London filming for the lockdowns
@@cliffsinclair4900 People think they are laws, but you just said it they are guidelines, and guidelines cannot be enforced. They sill managed to film here, but Joe peasants can't go on hols unless they have give their freedoms away. Thankfully I've never worn a mask, never social distanced, used track and trace and all that nonsense, and I think the more people accept all these rules instead of refusing to co-operate the more it will get worse.
Muppet
@@timjones2329 Same to you mate
You realise that the film industry supports an awful lot of jobs in the UK right? Plus this will obviously be a welcome income for the NYMR who would have been hard hit by the pandemic. And how do you the cast and crew have had or haven't had to do?
Let us just be Thankful that they are using real props and not CGI.
Title should be called Popsy Jones or Gramps Indy. He looks 100!!
Why not just film two Indy movies back to back so we can have six in total since this is probably the final one with good ol' Harrison Ford.
You think its easy to write a compelling script especially in this franchise?
@@Orangeflava It probably is really REALLY hard
A diesel at the rear????
Is this Indiana Jones and the Crystal zimmerframe?
Well, they did go to the effort of finding a 2-10-0 to play the part of a DRG Class 52 Kriegslok ... otherwise, forget historical accuracy, it's an Indiana Jones film isnt it 🙄 (the huge eagle insignia on the tender and the swastika banner on the smoke deflectors 😒)
The funny thing is the number on the 9F would suggest it's a DR 52.80, rather than a DRB 52. But 52.80s weren't about until the 1960s, having been rebuilt from ageing 52s....
I mean it is an Indiana Jones film after all. And Disney have taken the realms and without Spielberg and so inaccuracies are going to be more common.
OOPS! Can't use this footage if this is set decades earlier. Around 2:15 you see a modern car driving in the background.
The new Indiana Jones movie copies Top Secret.
Imagine an ex-nazi veteran soldier watching the train go by
ahh the potential lego IJ sets we could get
Moors do it again heartbeat now I Diana Jones tourists going flock to there now brilliant for superb railway too
Which Indiana Jones movie was this for?
Indiana Jones 5 to be released in 2023
@@nymrfootage thanks!
02:24 time-travelling silver car from the future…
Marty & Doc take Indy back to the thirties.
All rail fans will realize that the locomotive pulling the train makes no sense at all lol
British Mk I carriages with the DR logo from 1937. Seems it was quite impossible to get German carriages.
Where from?
@@Bungle2010 Just ask heritage railways. It shouldn't be a big problem. The biggest problem in Britain would probably be the loading gauge. But why do you have to make a WWII film in Britain? There are other locations allover Europe, which could have been used.
@@Ul.B Er because that is where Pinewood is! Why are people wanting to take jobs and investment away from the UK? And for no good reason.
@@Bungle2010 Then why are other film producers able to film in other European countries and some other company seems to be incapable of doing so?
@@Ul.B Like who? If crew and actors go to Germany to film this one scene and then come back to the UK they are going to have to quarantine for 10 days. That's not practical for a movie production. It's not that hard to understand surely?
I don’t see Harrison Ford. Maybe North Yorkshire has decided to take conservative policy a bit further
Very interessting :)
Do we really need a 5th one after so long.
I could have done without the fourth one!
Gold Trein
Hmm..guessing that the budget is so low for this movie that they couldn't even afford to go to Germany for the right loco/rolling stock. Doesn't bode well.
Germany is on the Amber list.
I assume this will be a flashback scene as Harrison Ford is 78 now and had just fought the Russians in the last film. He'd be far too old for a scene set in the war for an Indiana Jones film.
There are rumors that the main villain is a Nazi scientist in NASA.
De aging will likely be used. Hopefully for the whole film and not a flashback. But we’ll see
@@fatherlucid4995 he'll be too old to be Indiana Jones for scenes set in the 1940s. But then again these are early days and the script is not yet known. We don't even know who the villain will be, but considering the Nazis are making their third comeback in the film this should give us a clue.
@@Frserthegreenengine The reason I say it’s possible is because if you look at films like the Irishman with Joe Pesci, Robert De Niro and Al Pacino or Captain marvel with Samuel L Jackson all de aged, I think they pulled it off extremely well. Because of Harrison’s age that’s why I’m saying it’s a better idea to make him younger again. Whether or not Ford can pull off that kind of physicality is another question. Looking at his ability to still throw a punch in Blade Runner 2049 he seems ok to at least do scenes like that if not being able to swing around on his whip or jump from vehicles and that kind of stuff. They can leave all that to the stunt men. I’m cautiously optimistic because they are bringing Nazis back and Ford back to his prime. And if it does turn out to be a flashback well at least we get to see it instead of nothing at all. The technology has caught up to the point where it doesn’t look artificial. So fingers crossed this all works out
@@fatherlucid4995 I think you're right. Regardless, I'm going to see the fifth Indiana Jones film. I think it's a good sign that the Nazis are returning as the bad guys. And you're right technology has improved significantly since 2008 and hopefully the effects will look a lot better than in Crystal Skull and a return to more practical effects. Even with Crystal Skull all the jumping between vehicles and the whip scenes used stuntmen, so yes they'll do the same here. I hope it will be good.
@@Frserthegreenengine The only cgi that I like in movies is the subtle kind. And this de aging technology now is very subtle. I definitely would also agree on practical effects and pretty much no cgi at all. Especially for an Indiana Jones movie. Fury Road is a great example of a modern day Raiders Of The Lost Ark minus the one cg desert storm scene and some background work here and there. Most of it was stunts. Mad Max Fury Road for me at least is one of the top action films of the modern era and maybe even of all time. Raiders has got to be the best though and I’m not sure it can be topped. Last Crusade was awesome too though. But anyway yeah I’m right there with you hoping for the best. We deserve a real sequel to Last Crusade
Hornby please make this Nazi 9F as a limited edition or something. :)
Hey, do you like anime?! Please reply to me, buddy!
It's only a movie, it's not a real nazi train, Indiana Jones isn't a real archaeologist, those are not real nazi solders, probably British actors. Just accept it for fantasy, and enjoy the film. It isn't really that important that the train isn't original, most people wouldn't know anyway.
Those coaches can never ever be passed off as Deutsches Bundesbahn! Sorry!
the "deutsche Bundesbahn" only came about a few years after "the war".....and of course a 9F wasn't about then either.....:-)
You’ll just have to use your imagination 👍🏻🇬🇧
reichsbahn
I presume we can take it that Indiana Jones 5 is all about "Indy" preposterously defeating the Nazis singlehandedly in Occupied France then 😑
Not sure what the story is. But heard it covers the 1940s to present day.
It will be a flashback scene no doubt.
I mean he did it in 'Raiders of the lost Ark'
No
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I'm American but I can imagine those in the UK being quite sensitive about Nazi symbols.
Only the "Oh, won't somebody please think of the children" type. And I am sure you can find those in every country.
Not really. Many prefer being the Germans at WW2 events. They have better uniforms and weapons.
It seems that not as many as you think. Of course if you are LGBT, Romani, Black or Jewish then it is upsetting as it reminds you of just how many people were mass murdered by the Nazis. But the way this country is going many would have been supporters...
0:31 Hanger ? lol Hangar lol not Hanger
This is supposed to be in Argentina!lol
The train is ALL WRONG! The loco is not German, the painting (dressing-up) is not from the Deutsches Reichsbahn, the markings are ridiculous and the wagons are not even close to the german ones of the time! They could be a bit more careful in the research team!
Erratum: The DR logo used on these carriages was used by the Deutsche Reichsbahn from 1937 to 1945.
The setting looks like something right out of Harry Potter.
The Hogwarts Express scenes in Philosopher’s Stone were filmed in the same place, so that’s not surprising.
@@christophergarland7936 Well that makes sense now.
You know its gonna be utter trash when even Spielberg wants nothing to do with it.
Huh? Spielberg is heavily involved
Spielberg chose not to direct because after "The Schindler's list", he said he could never make fun of Nazis again.
With genuine preserved German locos and coaches available for film purposes in Germany, why use British rolling stock that is just marked with Nazi insignia? Doesn't make sense and anybody with a reasonable knowledge of railways will immediately pick up the wrong unauthentic railway equipment being used.
budget/covid etc.
plus, most people just don't really care.
Germany is on the Amber list.
Damn they couldn't film this anywhere in europe where there's german rolling stock ? like in every train museum : touristic railroad of this continent ?
No, most of the German rollingstock are outside memorials to concentration camps, so are not useable or appropriate
@@robharris8844U Sir you don't know what you're talking about : only freight rolling stock remains in mémorials and museums, no regular coach or any engine at all ... Im working with at least 5 associations that have dozens of german rolling / working material, including 2 working and currently used Ty german steam engine from WW2, and this is JUST in France ... They also have stations and depot that are still intact since WW2 in all the country, and there are even 3 former underground nazi bases directly linked to railroad ... They choosed to film it in UK, with british rolling stock badly painted ( the coaches are ridiculously-obviously british ) instead of anywhere else in Europe. They even made loads of horrible bad selling on mostly all the boards in "french" : The locomotive "Hanger" seriously ? It is so hard to use googletrad ? This is ridiculous ... You can bet this movie is gonna look cheap on both script and vfx. Spielberg killed his own legacy and sold the baby to crappy producers.
If you don't believe me, check by yourself on google. And once again this is just france : Poland, czech republic, swiss, Italy ... Even gemany have many working steam engines that they already rent.
@@MrElbarto75 It was tongue in cheek actually what I said, but anyway it is all about costs - why go to Germany when it all can be mostly done in one place that provides the best cinematic experts and technicians in the World of Cinema at this time? And forget about authentic portrayals for goodness sake! its for entertainment, not a history lesson. Just in case you have not realised " Indiana Jones" never actually existed its all comic-book bilge! I am sure once the wizards of cinematic have done their bit it will look as " authentic" as it needs to be, to put the audience in make believe land.
@@robharris8844U so if i resume your last comment : You admit that everything you said before was false ...
Then this pearl : "one place that provides the best cinematic experts and technicians in the World of Cinema at this time" : Where they are not even able to use google translation ? Yeah, sure :D
@@MrElbarto75 My comment about the German rollstock being outside concentration camps was a joke🤣not fake. But as for the technicians etc the UK has some of the best in the World. Many Hollywood films have technicians, set builders, CGI computer experts and directors from UK. So, especially during this covid-19 alert, it makes sense to go to the UK to make the movie, cutting costs and going to where there is the expertise 🇬🇧
Where did the loco come from
9f 92134 nymr resident
It the NYMR 9F, they just repainted it
@@926.repton Just what I've said
@@oliverbrooke6930 oh I didn’t see it, sorry
I don’t really get why they’ve using a 9F instead of a actual german locomotive?
nothing else available probably. and actually going to Germany would be difficult, thanks to a certain pandemic. Anywho, the 9f are the closest to a German class 44 or 50. 2-10-0 wheel arrangement, large smoke deflectors and all...
@@regularcitizenofffarquhar4698 yes but the 9F disguising as a german locomotive was wrong. They’ve got the black color scheme wrong, the wheels and the coupling rods should be painted red and as well they should used or duplicated Flying Scotsman’s smoke deflectors for very obvious reasons.
@@martinvillareal4409 Big smoke deflectors similar to the 9f's were quite common in Germany during that time ("Wagner Windbleche") . I agree about the wheels and pufferbole though. But to repaint them for just 2 or 3 days of filming would probably be too expensive.
@@regularcitizenofffarquhar4698 True to be honest, the way how they’ve portrayed the 9F disguised as a Nazi locomotive, it’s looks like it was built for the Austrian or the Hungary state railways.
murdoch didn't get the peace and quiet he asked for so he joined the nazis instead
0:32 when you write french, please ask several peoples to check for spelling: hangAr instead of hanger.
Also, this display is not realistic, sinc it is not common use in France to to mention "by order of..." In fact, such panels just did not exist. Even today, very few buildings are identified so. Typical cliché of Hollywood.
hanger a locomotive ? ahahah
I hate that the Nazis are the villains again. I'm looking forward to the movie, but I was hoping for a new villain this time around.
Not a surprise if Spielberg still has anything to do with it.
every really good indy movie has nazis. it makes sense. 1. Goes Nazi. 2. No nazi. 3. Nazi. 4. No nazi. 5. Nazi. 1st and 3rd are my favorite.
nazi free greetings from germany......by the way, i've been married to a yorkshire lass for 48 (!!) years......:-)
The Temple Of Doom was a good break from them.
They could have done something with the Khmer Civilization during the period of the Vietnam War across the border in Laos or Cambodia in the 1960s with Dr. Jones getting captured by the Viet Cong or something along those lines. Or behind them, pardon the pun.
2:59 oh thank goodness they covered the symbol! Damn! I was wondering!
Now I know the Nazi's had a thing for slapping the Swatiska on about anything they go their hands on, but they when overboard with this engine.
A German eagle clutching a wreathed Swatiska on the cab sides and a renumbering would of been all they needed.
But no, they're doing this to hammer home just how Nazi this locomotive, in a vain attempt to hid that this engine looks nothing like a Kriegslok......
I mean, it’s a historical fantasy movie. It’s not supposed to be historically accurate, it’s supposed to be fun and campy.
i don't understand why a British loco and British carriages would be used for a nazi train
Film-makers and historical accuracy are mutually exclusive....
Because it's filmed in the UK and it's a UK heritage railway.
@@Bungle2010 and do you think the movie is set in nazi Britan?
@@Slogyo I don't know what you're getting at..........?
Oh no why do that to her and those coaches
M-O-N-E-Y!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@holmesjunction if it keeps the rsilway going, I don't see the problem in letting film crews hire the line and locos
to be fair, heritage railways have been hit pretty hard like most other attractions in the last year and a bit, so if they get a bit of money for filming purposes then fair play.
The aesthetics won't be permanent.
They're temporary paint schemes. Once filming is over they will return them to original condition.
it looks ridiculous to me! surely they can do better than that. Australia.
Better how? Where does Australia come into it?
Good luck with that one. LOL! Last chance saloon was indiana jones 4. Mind you like a complete idiot i did see the new star wars films!
I heard indy joins the nazi,s in this one to rid the world of the easily offended but must get past the baddie Darth Feminist
Boy are they out of ideas.
Pffft what? This is Indy's thing, dude.
Nazis want artifact, Indiana Jones sorta fails at saving artifact, Nazis have their faces off.
It's a good rhythm.
@@SirNerdly It's copying what's been done before. There are many different types of enemies that can be used; the soviets are appropriate for his old age, nazis are not.
@@awfawf4546 He already fought the Soviets and it was kinda eh.
It went Nazis, cultists, Nazis, Soviets, and maybe Nazis again. Good way to end it if that's the case.
Also, it's kinda, sorta relatable these days on account that folks like Richard Spencer and David Duke were/are major Trump supporters and used him as a way to push their way into the mainstream again. I'm from the South and it's kinda, sorta a big deal.
Nazis again? That's not tiresome at all...
"Nazis.... I hate these guys." - Indy
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