That sucks man! How many miles did the cam fail at? I have 110,000 on mine now but its still issue free except for a tweeter that needs to be replaced. Thanks for the vid, did you get it fixed? What was the final outcome?
Bill Jackson - The noise started around 212k, but i’ve read of some who’s started alot earlier than that and some who have never had an issue. Most guys believe that it is a lubrication issue, mostly where the oil goes and especially if you dont use the right oil. The center lobes on both cams were destroyed, but the sound comes from the wearing down of the lifter itself (which is why the new lifters are nitride coated). I bought a complete kit from Lymm Engine Components in the U.K. shipped for $1300. That included all hardware, bearings and both cams. Their component supplier was an OE supplier and they were awesome to work with - esp since their aren’t many options over here. I was half way through the tear down when I ran out of time (I run a boat rental business and use this to haul our jet skis). So I had a local dealer do it and regret that decision with a passion. Not because of the cost, but from the quality of the service that was done. My advice for anyone who is wanting the dealer to do this is to talk to at least 3 dealers and do alot of research on them before dropping off your vehicle. My back was against the wall and I just needed it done and thats what I got - $3k in dealer costs later. But she’s running now - 9 months and almost 10k miles later - Zoom Zoom!!
@@racemyZ32 Thanks for the reply man! Good to hear it's still on the road, thanks for the info, I got lucky and found a great indi shop that I can trust. Have you done anything as far as a tune or delete? I was looking at the Malone stage 1, and looking at dpf, and erg, delete to try and keep those turbo's running as long as possible.
Bill Jackson Yea man - no worries, not many v10s around and yes I have already put a tune on it cause my wife and I were tired of it’s regeneration smoke. I went with RocketChip Performance out of PA, I have his contact info if you want it. $700 for a tune w/egr and dpf software delete. Same HP and TQ numbers and I didn’t have to take it to a shop (removed the ecus and within a couple days he mailed then back). When I was checking out tunes my closest Malone shop was an hr away and they needed me to drop off the vehicle. After the software was gone, I removed the DPFs, cut the top open and gutted the insides - then had it TIG welded back together to give it that visual OK underneath. Now it has a different kind of smoke, lol! It’s a big difference and about a 2-5 mpg increase.
My Phaeton started making same noise.. damn I hoped it's just clogged injector. Yeah I think it's wrong oil too. They gave me 507.00, said "program says so". But as I have seen it needs 505.01 or 506.01. So you need to change both cams or you did it as prevention? Knocking noise on mine comes from left bank, drivers side.
EDINN2505 the oil spec is mainly for the “ash” quality/quantity for the DPF system. Its an engine design issue, all Pumpe Duese engines have this problem no matter who the manufacturer is or engine configuration. I replaced both cams as a set, not a good idea to only do one cam. Both cams were severely worn down. This also gave me the time to remove the EGR system, bypass the cooler and remove all those pipes associated with it. Engine bay looks much more pleasant and its easier to work on now. I bought the cam kits from a engine shop in the UK called Lymm Engine Components. Great price and excellent quality.
@@racemyZ32 What cams did u end up getting? OE cams or aftermarket? And did you replace lifters along with the cams, as some aftermarket cams are harder and drill the stock lifters
That sucks man! How many miles did the cam fail at? I have 110,000 on mine now but its still issue free except for a tweeter that needs to be replaced. Thanks for the vid, did you get it fixed? What was the final outcome?
Bill Jackson - The noise started around 212k, but i’ve read of some who’s started alot earlier than that and some who have never had an issue. Most guys believe that it is a lubrication issue, mostly where the oil goes and especially if you dont use the right oil. The center lobes on both cams were destroyed, but the sound comes from the wearing down of the lifter itself (which is why the new lifters are nitride coated).
I bought a complete kit from Lymm Engine Components in the U.K. shipped for $1300. That included all hardware, bearings and both cams. Their component supplier was an OE supplier and they were awesome to work with - esp since their aren’t many options over here.
I was half way through the tear down when I ran out of time (I run a boat rental business and use this to haul our jet skis). So I had a local dealer do it and regret that decision with a passion. Not because of the cost, but from the quality of the service that was done.
My advice for anyone who is wanting the dealer to do this is to talk to at least 3 dealers and do alot of research on them before dropping off your vehicle. My back was against the wall and I just needed it done and thats what I got - $3k in dealer costs later.
But she’s running now - 9 months and almost 10k miles later - Zoom Zoom!!
@@racemyZ32 Thanks for the reply man! Good to hear it's still on the road, thanks for the info, I got lucky and found a great indi shop that I can trust. Have you done anything as far as a tune or delete? I was looking at the Malone stage 1, and looking at dpf, and erg, delete to try and keep those turbo's running as long as possible.
Bill Jackson Yea man - no worries, not many v10s around and yes I have already put a tune on it cause my wife and I were tired of it’s regeneration smoke. I went with RocketChip Performance out of PA, I have his contact info if you want it. $700 for a tune w/egr and dpf software delete. Same HP and TQ numbers and I didn’t have to take it to a shop (removed the ecus and within a couple days he mailed then back). When I was checking out tunes my closest Malone shop was an hr away and they needed me to drop off the vehicle.
After the software was gone, I removed the DPFs, cut the top open and gutted the insides - then had it TIG welded back together to give it that visual OK underneath.
Now it has a different kind of smoke, lol! It’s a big difference and about a 2-5 mpg increase.
My Phaeton started making same noise.. damn I hoped it's just clogged injector. Yeah I think it's wrong oil too. They gave me 507.00, said "program says so". But as I have seen it needs 505.01 or 506.01.
So you need to change both cams or you did it as prevention?
Knocking noise on mine comes from left bank, drivers side.
EDINN2505 the oil spec is mainly for the “ash” quality/quantity for the DPF system. Its an engine design issue, all Pumpe Duese engines have this problem no matter who the manufacturer is or engine configuration. I replaced both cams as a set, not a good idea to only do one cam. Both cams were severely worn down. This also gave me the time to remove the EGR system, bypass the cooler and remove all those pipes associated with it. Engine bay looks much more pleasant and its easier to work on now. I bought the cam kits from a engine shop in the UK called Lymm Engine Components. Great price and excellent quality.
@@racemyZ32 What cams did u end up getting? OE cams or aftermarket? And did you replace lifters along with the cams, as some aftermarket cams are harder and drill the stock lifters
Wish me luck, I own this very one now. Bought it off of the guy who got it on cars and bids
Right on man! When did you acquire it?
@@racemyZ32 got it on the 1st of this month
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